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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/UtEixUJD
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
Is it okay to put my x220t on my bedsheets? Will it overheat?
Anybody running Libreboot on a X200 here know if using 1333mhz and 1600mhz ram is possible?
There is any specific reason why it is used 1066mhz RAM, or is is just because it was the way libreboot was compiled?
>>54159657
I think most notebooks will overheat on bedsheets
>>54159657
as long as you dont block the back/left side it will be fine. My t420 only runs 5-7c warmer with bedposting use. I usually have it on a piece of wood though.
>>54159657
I use my X220t on top of bedsheets all the time and it does get a bit warmer but it has never overheated.
>>54159705
isnt X200 hardware limited to 1066Mhz RAM?
There's an X220 for sale near me for cheap but the back of the lid damaged in the corner and pops away from the screen bevel sometimes.
Anyone have any experience fixing lids?
Is it worth it or am I better off going for a whole new screen?
>>54159624
>[FINGERPRINTS INTENSIFIES]
>>54159847
It's easy.
>>54159862
I'm not just concerned about it being easily done though. I'm also worried about the cost and availability of parts.
>>54159886
Did you not bother checking ebay?
Who here is a part of the T420 with a quad-core master race?
>>54159624
>Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
How do you all feel about the Google Pixel, the business chromebook?
There's a sale on the 2013 editions now, so they're half off of MSRP new.
>>54159898
I did, it seems like a hard part to find on it's own and seems like it's usually around fifty quid.
But I'm wondering if that's a usual price or if they might be going cheap/expensive right now.
>>54159900
>1366x768
>6gb ram
You arent done yet anon
>>54159972
If you want to do it cheaply. Buy a unit that's beat to hell or doesnt work. Then swap its lid cover with yours and resell it. You could make money on the deal if you price it right.
>>54160009
>implying I need any more than 6gb of RAM
>implying that 768p isn't just fine for a laptop.
>>54159910
Where?
>>54159972
That's about how much they run in good condition.
>>54159624
i want to have sex with that computer
>>54160072
It's on slickdeals. Website offering it is expansys though. Never heard of them and the 2013 specs seem far from ideal.
>>54159900
>1366x768
>master race
>>54159624
what model is that?
>>54160035
>1366x768
2006 came here to laugh at you.
>>54160200
S30
>>54159624
Thinkpad W510
15.6"
16 GB Ram
512 GB SSD Solid State Hard Drive
Quadro FX 880 Nvidia 1GB video card 1920x1080
Touch Screen
CORE Intel i7 x920 @ 2Ghz - 8 Core
Windows 10 Pro
Camera
DVD/RW
Power Supply
802.11agn Wireless
Fingerprint Scanner
Listed for $400, what should I offer on it?
Are Thinkpads really worth it?
I am thinking about getting a Laptop, but have heard bad and good things from Thinkpads.
>>54160230
>Needing more than 768p on a 14 inch screen.
>>54160332
Start with an old cheap model as a test drive of sorts. Look past the obviously dated specs and technologies and see if the design and features appeal to you.
>>54160479
I bought a Educational one with a Pentium and I hated it, returned the thing.
>>54160332
Depends on what you want from your laptop. /g/ likes them because they're widely available for not much money, due to businesses upgrading them, many models have good Linux support, they have nice keyboards, and they're pretty durable and repairable as far as laptops go. You can go online and get teardown guides, and people part them out and sell the bits on ebay often. They're also the opposite of Apple in terms of aesthetics.
Downsides, /g/ often uses older models (C2D or early i5/7 era), and they tend not to have powerful graphics. You might also want to pay attention to the screen you get, some are low-res. And with that repairability comes the fact that you might have to do some work on your copy to get it running how you want, it is used, after all.
So if that sounds like the kind of laptop you want, you'll probably like them.
what store carries the charger a t420?
couldn't find them at my bestbuy
>>54160528
Get a generic chink one on the store of your choice. They all come with an assortment of barrel plugs. Match the voltage and make sure it has at least the amperage of the original, and it'll be fine.
>>54160344
>Actually trying to justify 1366x768
There's no excuse for it. There are 4k screens on laptops. There are 4k screens on phones. There were 1600x1200 screens on laptops 10 years ago. It would be like a modern system with a single-core CPU, even smartphones have better than that nowadays.
>>54160528
Ebay. Bought a Genuine 90w for $10 on monday.
Should I just go ahead and pull the rest of the letters off? It kind of looks bad with the one missing, plus it could look like a cool matte black lenovo logo.
>>54160509
Someone should really specify that while the X series is included in the OP as offering the Real ThinkPad Experience™, that doesn't include the X1**e line. I've noticed way too many people lately saying that they bought one of those and how much it sucks. Use your brains, m8s. Used Thinkpads are good deals because they were expensive laptops back in their day that are dirt cheap now. The ones that were always dirt cheap are complete shit.
>>54160664
This. My 1st thinkpad experience was a x100e. made me think that thinkpad=shit for a bit (i was a macfag in high school though, so that probably played a part.) Now i wouldnt give up my T420 for almost anything.
>>54160633
Buy another L for Lelnovo.
>>54160256
get the fuck out nigger this isn't for the fancy thinkpads
>>54160256
That's a pretty good price for such a loaded system. I don't think I'd even lowball it.
>>54160556
Yeah it's crazy that Thinkpad t61 laptops had such better res screens than all the all the laptops to follow
>>54160633
Pull off the L and the n and turn the ovo into an owl face.
>>54160633
just remove everything, will look euro as fuck
Going to Italy soon
Not sure if I want to bring my loli filled T420
Advice?
aww the corporate perk password doesn't work anymore.
>>54161332
Leave your porn at home.
>>54161332
>put empty hard drive in
There, no porn
>>54159910
seems pretty good for a shitposting/Facebook machine or for remoting into other systems
>>54160332
What's your use case? As in, what programs do you need to run on it, display quality you need/want, battery life you expect, etc?
>>54161339
There's a new one, check the archive a few threads back IIRC.
The guy will take 40 for it, it would be my first Thinkpad. I'd throw Kali Linux on it and use it as my netsec machine. Thoughts?
>>54161514
Is the seller black or is it stolen?
Did I do good?
>>54161514
Sure. That looks to be the max spec from the factory in regards to ram/cpu.
>>54161528
Looks good, just put in a 900p screen
>>54161546
Any other upgrades aside from ssd? I was reading you can drop in a quad i7 but that seemed ridiculous
>>54161040
>>54161386
>check the archive
wut?
>>54161607
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/4flz40/corporate_code_expired/
How to replace the T420 touchpad? (the whole thing, not the sticker) How much will it cost?
>>54161607
https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/
christ, tripfaggot
>>54161525
Not to my knowledge, seems like a solid deal . He's meeting me at the library so I can fuck around with it and make sure he's not niggering me.
>>54161525
Don't the two regularly coincide?
>>54161742
60 dollars for an x60 is hardly a deal if you live in the US of Freedom. You can routinely get x200 units, and sometimes x201 units for 60 dollars on eBay. Have fun with your 32 bit processor and 3gb of ram.
Is the X60 the last worthy 4:3 thinkpad?
>>54161797
40 dollars if you can try and read better. Specs are fine to run Kali as my portable pentesting rig.
>>54161797
It has 160ssd tho which is basically worth the price of admission.
ARE THERE ANY NON SHITTY CONDITION T61's on eBAY?!
>>54161797
$60 for an X60 is fine. Any complete working laptop hits a floor price eventually of $50-75.
It's like any running, working car with 4 wheels is worth at least $500 no matter how old and shitty it is.
>>54161834
Yes, just don't expect a lot. It's the bottom of what can handle the "modern" web without unacceptable lag. Shitposting, SD youtube to keep it to non-7th-circle-of-hell temperatures, and other non resource-intensive applications.
>>54161626
Thanks.
>>54161714
Dude I don't follow every 4chan clone that pops up.
>>54161919
Bitch I aint payin no motha fuckin $50 for that dinosaur ass shit
I want to get an HDD caddy instead of optical drive for my thinkpad R60. Which one should I get?
http://www.gearbest.com/hdd-ssd/pp_315947.html
www.aliexpress.com/item/12-7mm-SATA-2nd-HDD-Hard-Drive-Caddy-for-IBM-Lenovo-Thinkpad-IBM-ThinkPad-R50-R60/2007459968.html
>>54162012
Enjoy your 2 month shipping time :)
>>54159092
>Anyone in Argentina knows where to get a cheap Thinkpad?
Go to Chile. They're cheaper there.
>>54161979
RBT has been around for years
>>54161985
Congratulations, you're not a collector and/or not destitute.
What should I get for a thinkpad in which the most resource intensive shit I'll be doing is 4chan and playing anime
I'd ideally prefer to spend under $200
>>54162602
T420
>>54162602
x201/T410 or later would cover it
>>54162640
>>54162650
Thank you my friends
hey is my desktop a thinkpad now guise?
Advice for buying thinkpads in Australia
Most of the advice seems to be catered to Americans
Any words on the x250? Seems like a big pain in the ass to do things like swap out the monitor or keyboard but I prefer the a e s t h e t i c s
>>54162916
I haven't been lucky at my garbage store lately...
>>54162927
Ebay. I got a W520 for $380. If you look now they're in the $600 range, but every once in a while you see a great deal.
I also grabbed an i7 T420 for $200 on gumtree. Indian guy I bought it from was a cool dude. Check which suburb it's from. I'm in Victoria, so I know that the the $50 ThinkPad offer from Sunshine or Footscray will get me raped and stabbed whereas South Melbourne will have an ex-business laptop etc.
I just bought a x250. Will post pictures tomorrow when I get it.
>>54159847
Worked repairing laptops for a while. Replacing the back sections of screens is usually a pain in the ass if you haven't got much experience taking a laptop apart.
>>54163573
I'm looking for a T420 or T430 for $200-$300
Maybe I'll just have to scour around gumtree and ebay until one pops up.
It is a good laptop to just drag around for some coding and not have to care about right? I'm thinking about setting up a server to just back it up frequently.
I'm looking to get a ThinkPad. The one thing I've noticed is that the price is pretty high when compared to laptops with higher specs, for example in RAM, HDD capacity, GPU, screen resolution. is it really worth getting considering that I'm paying $300-500 more for the same specs?
>>54163741
It's great for it. I initially bought it with the intention of installing a Linux distro and learning how to use it, rather than from a VM. I was also interested in taking it apart and self teaching myself the innards of a laptop. If it shat the bed, that was only 4 days tip money gone. Now it's my daily shitposting in cafes machine.
If you want a laptop for writing on the move, maybe an X220 or X230 is a good option too because of their size, but I would never not recommend the T's you mentioned either.
I've decided to get a refurbished T420 with a i5 2520M and 4gb.
What kind of performance issues should I know?
For example, I need to use word, chrome, python IDLE, matlab and ltspice for university. How smooth will my experience be?
>>54163966
Also would you recommend paying a bit more for 8gb ram?
x300 for $100 bucks worth or not worth?
>>54163999
Go with 16GB if you're gonna use Chrome
>>54164086
Sounds like he's running Windows don't forget the 32GB swap partition too.
>>54164086
>>54164103
Could I get a serious answer?
With 12 tabs open in chrome my desktop only uses 4gb's, so why would I need 16gb?
Also I'm not even sure if the t420 can fit 16gb.
>>54164215
If you know you're easily using up 4 then I really don't see why you'd ask if it's worth upgrading
What model Thinkpad is that OP?
I hate the glossy cover but other than that, so sexy!
what is the name of thunkpad in OP's picture
>>54159810
can I have that vaporpaper?
>>54164280
s30
>>54164294
Custom V A P O R W A V E A E S T H E T I C S
>>54164300
Seems to be extremely rare and can only be found in Asian countries apparently, mostly Japan
That's too bad, would've totally bought one
>>54160936
My t60 has a res of 1400x1050.
...OK the processor is 1.66ghz(x2) and it has 2GB of RAM...But dat res.
>>54161704
Bump, anybody?
>>54159624
If you guys had the chance to get a brand new, sealed boxed X201 (last X series with 16:10 & latch) i5, for £295, would you do it?
>>54164874
thats a lot but i would be tempted
>>54164859
You replace the whole palmrest.
I really wish there were replacement palm rests without the touchpad..
>>54164035
It's fine for $100, but don't expect any real use out of it. ULV Duo2Cuo and mediocre battery life makes it hard to use in this day and age. But the design is something to be admired
>>54164968
I want to do the keyboard swap and fill in the trackpad on my x230. Would be a good normie deterrent and i have it disabled in bios anyway so no loss. Was just going to use body filler or something like that but finding the right paint might be a bit of pain.d
Any nig/g/ers here have the t430s? Hows battery life under Linux?
Sold my Macbook Air (I know right...) And scoredba T431s (never even knew it existed) for less than half of what I got for the Mac.
Upgrading from a T410 that is actually still surprisingly relevant. Runs great.
>>54159910
How about C201 model? It can be librebooted and costs like 180$
Are the first gen core i models still viable laptops for web browsing, programming and a bit of light, amateur photo/video editing (gimp and openshot tier). I'm looking at getting an X201 to carry about and a W510 as a portable desktop replacement (I move a lot).
>>54165218
they will work fine. Battery life might leave a bit to be desired though.
>>54159624
Need opinions on repurposing my x220T with smashed screen (pic related). Replacing the digitiser is not an option as it costs more than the machine is worth. Would you:
a) replace the LCD with a standard x220 panel, work mostly as normal but no tablet functionality and it will have no cover or bezel so will look ghetto as fuck
b) get an extra express-card NIC, install pfSense on it and use it as a router, no screen needed
c) stick an SSD or high-capacity 2.5" HDD in it, another SSD/HDD in the ultrabase instead of the DVD drive and use it as a basic headless server for something
Wat do. I already have a NAS.
>>54164895
got him down from £350, but he won't budge from £295.... wut do /g/?
>>54165230
Even with a brand new original Lenovo 9 cell?
>>54163929
and the faggot appears.
>>54165350
it does depend on what your coming from. A fresh 9 cell will help but at the end of the day original i5s were not that power efficient compared to the sandy and ivy parts that you can get in x220s and x230s
newbie here. Which model is the strongest thinkpad?
>>54161590
>drake posting
>W510
>i7QM w/ Nvidia FX880M
>8GB/320GB
>1600x900
>Great condition (pic related)
>£300
yay or nay?
>>54165488
forgot pic
Anyone have any luck with any particular 3rd party X220 9-cell? I'd like to get a replacement soon as my battery life is sub-optimal.
Also, any experience with this mSATA SSD?
>>54164874
>>54165254
Someone tell me what to do. This is too hard.
>>54165659
just buy it
>>54165659
http://www.strawpoll.me/10015602
>>54165589
Just pop it open and replace the 18650s get some nice Panasonic ones, they'll last forever.
>>54165488
>>54165501
>1600x900
that resolution on a 15" screen will probably look shitty. But other than that it looks comfy.
>>54165750
I've heard this is difficult/dangerous because of the way lithium-ion protection circuits are built. Don't you need a bench power supply to do it properly?
>>54165736
>http://www.strawpoll.me/10015602
>>54165739
Thanks anons. I love you all.
>>54165760
Is it good value though?
Hi guys.
Just got myself a W700 with:
1920x1200 400nit screen
Core 2 Extreme X9100 CPU
6GB RAM
120GB SDD + 200GB HDD
nVidia Quadro FX2700M 512MB
for 280 USD. It is in mint condition as far as looks go, it was used as a desktop pc with external keyboard and shit.
Did I make a good deal?
>bought two 'don't know if they work but power on' thinkpad 600
>all that was wrong was the cmos batteries were dead
That aside, the rubber coating on the lids are starting to peel, probably because of age. Is there an easy way to either remove it entirely, or stop any more from peeling? I heard if you just put a big vinyl sticker of it it that works, but I'd have to cut around the IBM logo, which sounds like a pain.
Displayport only works when Nvidia is activated?, Because when I turn nvidia off in BIOS it wont work?, T420.
>>54166003
Remove the logo, put vinyl, put logo over vinyl
>>54166014
Oh, I didn't consider that. Thanks, anon.
>>54166008
yes, DP is connected only to the nvidia card
>>54165589
Got a chink 9 cell battery a couple of years ago. It lasted only an hour longer than the official 6 cell, and half a year ago it became unable to charge past 20% battery. It was also starting to open itself up, the glue melted or something.
Went back to the 6 cell and a month later bought an unused official 9 cell.
My advice is not to get 3rd party batteries. The official ones are worth the money for the battery life alone, even without the better build and longer lifespan before they go kaput.
>>54166068
does it work to install the nvidia drivers on debian?, because I did try it the other day and it just broke, had to remove all the drivers then it worked again with the intel drivers
>>54166008
whats left to upgrade on my t420?. is a new 9cell worth it?, battery time?
>>54161919
>It's the bottom of what can handle the "modern" web without unacceptable lag.
Utter bullshit. My T43 running lubuntu works absolutely fine for internet browsing it's no slower than my mid 2012 macbook pro
would the build quality on the w500 be noticeably better than the t420? Which would you choose for web browsing
What sort of battery time could I expect to get with an X220 on Windows 10 and/or Arch Linux?
Very tempted to get one
>>54165750
I would have done that with mine, but I don't know if there is any way to open the case without destroying it.
>>54166168
A W500 is probably cheaper, so just for web browsing I'd take that.
>>54166168
W series is nice but get a T420 just for the sandy bridge.
>>54162086
only about 2 weeks actually
>>54159831
Yup, confirmed. Get a 1066Mhz, Cl7 DDR3 rig. Works fine with a Libreboot x200.
>>54165488
>>54165501
Got him down from £379. Did I do good? Should I pull the trigger?
>>54166378
I'd do it, that laptop is mint and specced well, the condition means a lot to me.
>>54166378
I would if I had the money
>>54159705
some work, some don't; test out a couple of brands and return them if they don't work
>>54159831
that just means the modules work at 1066; it doesn't necessarily stop you from using faster ram; my X301 officially supports a maximum of DDR3 1066 but it works fine with Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600; didn't work with Corsair ram though
>>54165739
>>54166390
>>54166473
Well thanks to you wonderful /g/entoomen, I now have a brand new, boxed & sealed X201 and a mint condition W510 winging their way to me for less than £595.
Gonna be quite the computing upgrade coming from just having a single plastic fantastic consumer tier 15" 6 year old Samshit as my only machine.
>>54166537
>boxed & sealed X201
Thats really cool, finding an arrandale laptop in the box after all these years.
>>54161834
X61 is fine too.
>>54166074
Where can i find this kind picture of the T430?
>>54166552
I know right. Especially as it was the last of the 12.1", 1280x800, 16:10 screens and the last of the X series with a latch and with discrete trackpad buttons. Comes with a brand new 9 cell as well. Stoked.
>>54161332
If you're asking from a criminality point of view it depends on where you go, a laptop is not exactly easy to pickpocket anyway, if you're asking from a legal point of view about the loli it's legal so no problem
>>54166566
>ttps://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
>>54166569
But at the end of the day it's fucking old and overpriced
>>54165251
Get a broken X220t from ebay and use the screen from it.
>>54166595
Meh. Depends how much of a hard on you have for old ThinkPads. Mine is raging.
>>54166611
Wait till you get your hands on an X301, you'll go "WHY THE FUCK AREN'T THEY PRODUCING THIS RIGHT NOW?"
guys anyone know why TPfanControl wont stay at Manual 4 speed it always goes to Smart and the fans stay at 0
>>54166569
post link please
>>54166678
Yeah. Dream tier finds would be mint X301 and W700DS.
>>54166751
It's gone I'm afraid dude - there was only one.
BTW, what kind of RAM will I need for an X201? Will one of these do:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-CT51264BF160B-PC3-12800-Unbuffered-NON-ECC/dp/B005LDLV6S/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1461332776&sr=8-5&keywords=laptop+ram
>>54166849
Yeah that'll do it, I dont think X201s use DDR3L or whatever.
>>54165793
https://hackaday.io/page/247-replacing-lenovo-laptop-lithium-batteries
Has anyone had any luck booting with UEFI on the x220?
>>54159624
Just bought an extra 4gb of ram for my x220 already running an SSD, will I notice a performance increase? mostly used for shitposting
What is best Wiindows for a T420?
>>54167276
linux
>>54167291
I cannot play a game on linux
>>54167327
you dont game on thinkpads
>>54167276
Linux
>>54167338
Yes but I do play a game.
>>54167327
what game?
>>54167365
D3. I have NVDIA on my T420 so it gives a boost. Been having some driver issues though lately ever since I used another ISO
>>54167388
http://askubuntu.com/questions/440213/how-to-play-diablo-iii-on-ubuntu
Is the t450s worth it? There is one on ebay for about 800 CAD. 256GB ssd, i5, 8GB ram, 1600x900 screen, still on warranty.
>>54166126
SSD?
Even on media-heavy sites?
>>54166886
Fuck grub. rEFInd works fine.
'ello /tpg/. I have a problem. I have image related (not my picture), minus the battery and the piece underneath the touchpad. For the life of me, I cannot find that latter piece anywhere, by name or for sale. Any ideas?
>>54166886
did you configure the BIOS to use UEFI only mode? in legacy mode it doesn't work (ie. the loader can't see GPT disks, shitty UEFI implementation by lenovo)
also make sure to have "USB UEFI BIOS Support" enabled
it wouldn't hurt to update to the latest BIOS either
Will anybrand/model 7mm 2.5" drive fit in a X220 Tablet or are only certain drives supported?
>>54161514
Caps at 3gb ram
>>54167952
Any will do
The card whitelist is a thing but whitelisting storage devices would be suicide
>>54167727
palmrest? or what do you mean?
what is the thinkpad of phones
>>54168266
the black rectangle framed in silver in the bottom center of the image. it's missing from my computer, and I don't know what it is or what it's called. the actual touchpad is present on mine, but that piece sits between it and the battery, and my XT is missing it.
>>54168294
blackberry q10. we've been over this
>>54159657
Thoughts on the thinkpad x260?
Thinking of buying one brand new.
do we know which series the ThinkPad Retro is going to be like? I think there's a decent chance of high sales or tons of feedback leading to more similar products (maybe retro options for several series of ThinkPads later on) but I wanna know if I should be buying it when it comes out or not.
>>54159910
>How do you all feel about the Google Pixel, the business chromebook?
I can't tell if you're joking but I will give a serious reply to be safe.
I am not interested in a laptop without a pointing stick and upper physical mousebutton. That's probably my biggest issue with it.
>>54168435
They made a reference in their Lenovo blog about their 'Milestone X301' and considering that thin is in, that's probably what they'll make.
we are buying 20 of the new 7510 Precisions all specced up, they are fucking badass. tying them in with 4k production/broadcast racks that we started sending out recently. I've had a lot of experience with these "pro" laptops and many of them are total shit, All the old precision models are just awful, avoid the M6500's and M6600's at all costs. Last year we bought a fleet of Dell Latitude E6540's and they are awesome, so easy to maintain, rugged, don't get bitchy when you try to image them, and the specs are pretty boss. I tried desperately to get our CFO to sign off on a load of thinkpads but they just arent up to what we need them for unfortunately, their product line up seems kinda empty recently.
Anyone using the new precisions ? Specifically the 5510 or the 7510. Need some reviews or pointers to any annoying habits or quirks they have.
>>54168352
im thinking of doing this too. pretty good value if you do your own ram and ssd
>>54168481
WTB for $3K
Thoughts on the thinkpad x60? Don't know why my other post quoted that anon >>54168352
>>54168486
I don't mind if it's really expensive, it'll be my first thinkpad and i want that shit to be top notch.
>>54168352
who /flan/ here
>>54163929
what board? I'm 60% master race here, but my brother is always saying he wants a 60% with arrow keys
>>54168331
my african armenian brother
>milka
no, they're too sweet, also
>stickers
>>54168601
>autism over stickers
>also learn2quote
>>54168352
vs X220
+3% single threaded performance
+10% multi threaded
shitty keyboard layout
>>54168620
I knew sandy Bridge was a breakthrough but 10% multi threaded increase after all those years is pretty sorry, and an X220 costs way over 10% less to buy.
>>54168620
hmm its half the tdp though so should run quieter and cooler
>>54165251
I vote C or the first reply to you
>tfw t420 arrived today
>tfw got 16.04 ubunutu + gnome installed on it (first time ever using linux)
>tfw learning how to use emacs to get ready for Comp Sci at college next year
>tfw barely scratched the surface but already love doing shit like installing software directly from the terminal
>tfw already like this more than the 1300$ macbook I foolishly bought before this
Pretty comfy desu, glad to be apart of the TP familia
Just bought a brand new battery for my X220T and a perfectly working DisplayPort/HDMI adapter from ali
>>54166174
4 hours maybe
>>54168331
>we've been over this
I missed it, please give me the short version.
>>54168481
Do you think they'll make a tablet version too? I have a T60p, T420, and X220T. I don't really see the appeal in the X series without the tablet support. It's just a weaker T series then.
I also hope they have a trackpadless option like the X200 and older
>>54168718
bumping this out of interest also
Anyone want to trade a x220 for a x220t?
>>54168768
I too hope they make a full retro lineup, and not create one niche product that has the design you want, but isn't as capable as you would like it to be.
>>54168706
welcome to the cult brother
there is much for you to learn
>>54168718
Blackberry Q10:
>Cheap to buy
>Good build quality
>Battery is replaceable and very cheap
>excellent quality keyboard
>Black
>Uncool
>Businessy
It's the thinkpad of phones
>>54168660
>should
yes, if it weren't for the mad chase of "muh thin ultrabook" apple envy plaguing FUCKING BUSINESS laptops; every chance they get, they replace "runs cooler for a longer time and we don't need to do anything" with "let's slim it down, put an even smaller fan with insane RPM and cripple the battery even more... oops, time to shorten the key travel too"
>>54168868
Yeah this pissed me off a lot too. I would be so happy to have a 15w skylake cpu in a big chunky t420 chassis. Could probably even make it fanless and have a massive heatsink
How are the dell precision workstations?
>>54159624
is that the design for the new thinkpad?
Why is it glossy?
>>54168866
isn't it stuck with it's default special snowflace os though? How's the software?
>>54168888
My hope is that sometime post-canonlake the components would be so small and energy efficient that I could fit a stock mobo from another laptop with all required adapters in the X301 chassis and have a current-gen proper thinkpad again.
Or, the retro might be all that and I don't need to lift a finger.
>>54168718
>>54168813
Not him but I'm a long time BB Q10 user. Never had any BB phone before, I tried every smartphone ecosystem available in the past, from the HTC HD (windows phone 6), iPhone 4, HTC Desire and Lumia 520. While I had fun tinkering with android/iOS, I also grew tired of the endless entertainment and ADHD inducing cycle of update/root/cydia/apps which was terribly counterproductive and well it was also time to grow up.
But the most important thing for me was to finally try using a full physical keyboard with real haptic feedback on smartphone, the only answer I found was the BB Q10. And I can say it blew my mind. BB10 OS (with the BB Hub, not gimmicky multi-tasking) is a miracle of software and UI design. It helped me stay focused and productive while at the same time have an internet browser on the go and minimal amount of apps. The screen is a bit odd at first but it grew on me.
However
>current year
It's finally showing some limits (crappy camera compared to nowadays tech, it's become slow as it ages), I was really sad that BB isn't developing BB 10 OS any further, a real shame since it's a terribly underrated OS.
>>54162916
Not that impressive. The IBM Spacesaver 2 is much better. I'm on vacation, or I'd send a pic of mine. Here's a stock pic though.
>>54168966
>stock pic
more like a bad shoop
>>54168920
I have had android and iphone and BB10 is the best OS I've used hands down. Android is awful. The only trouble with the Q10 is teh lack of apps. I have a 20quid android phone which I use for tinder and banking and I just leave it at home it works great
>>54169000
Here, smartass
>>54160479
>bought t60p years ago
>It's actually a complete POS
Seriously, the hp compaq I bought after is much faster and doesn't have hardware problems everywhere
Why was X201 named like that, why not X210 like W510, T410 etc.
>>54168940
I'm looking to latch from your experience, what did you find the most useful in smartphones in your experience.
I've shunned them since my first smart phone that ran out of battery constantly and did nothing for my productivity,
hey /g/uys, just got a t420 on ebay but it needs a new battery. should i get a lenovo branded one or one of these chink shit knockoffs?
>>54169025
>>54168966
Even so, the first pic is terribly done it reminds me the description section of those shady chinese sellers on ebay
>>54167905
I updated the BIOS and UEFI was enabled. It wouldn't boot a liveusb in UEFI mode because the x220 apparently wants an /efi/EFI/BOOT/bootx64.efi file.
I don't know why grub was complaining that it couldn't find the / or /boot partition as /dev was mounted fine.
rEFInd worked without a hitch.
>>54168706
Fucking neck yourself
>Frog poster
>Fell for the macbook meme
>fell for the thinkpad meme
>fell for the Noobuntu meme
>fell for the compsci meme
>>54169066
Don't listen to this cocksmoker.
>>54161332
128GB encrypted microsd
Swallow or otherwise get rid of it if they stop you
>>54168706
>x220
>gentoo
>vim
>compsci
>also made the foolish macbook purchase
Which thinkpads had the best typing experience? I already have a 420 and want another laptop as good.
Dont do anything besides typing and some web stuff on these. For me laptops are for typing tasks like programming word processing shit like that. Typing experience not being the first consideration is why I am looking at these in the first place.
>>54169049
One can probably guess it has to do with form changes. It was an X200 with new insides
You could of course argue the same with the X220->X230 yes but quite visibly there's a chiclet keyboard
Not too different to the L410->L412 and L420->L421
>>54161979
>4chan clone
You're this retarded
>>54169028
>ten year old mobile workstation is slow and has hardware problems
Did you even read the post you replied to?
>>54169125
T60 keyboard has a steel backplate and full travel on the top row. It eats the T420 keyboard for breakfast.
>>54169156
>old thinkpad has many problems
>old hp has almost none
hue
>>54168706
I have the 420 and also went gnome. Always an easy install with these laptops.
I need to upgrade to 16.04 though.
>>54169178
>old hp
>no problems
Now I know you're full of shit. HP has a reputation they can't escape because of how unbelievably bad they were ten years ago.
>>54168854
I just hope for a really good keyboard. And the propery internals that make it fixable and mod-able.
>>54161979
Haha, what a fucking idiot.
>>54169196
hp compaqs werent that bad though imo, i had an 6715s which worked fine until 2015 when i retired it, probably still would be functional. i thought their business machines were pretty reliable
I just bought an extra 4gb or ram for my laptop (x220)
pls tell me I didn't waste my money
>>54169051
>what did you find the most useful in smartphones in your experience?
>also blogpost
I was still in college when I first had my first smartphone (HTC HD), it was boring at first thanks the business like OS (Win 6.5) it was shit entertainmentwise compared to my friends' boasting the new iPhone 3G, later on I flashed android on it (Froyo) and it opened a whole world of tinkering and timewasting stuff from compiling to snifiing packet, even made a (just customized an already custom made) custom rom.
Then I got myself an iPhone 4, the new fad/frenzy of hot and popular iPhone games and apps, and that's it, playing number one on the appstore flash games while taking a number two or while getting bored in class etc. First to tinker with it, first to grow tired of the planned obsolescence and same-software upgrades that followed suit 10 fold.
My first attempt to get out of the cycle was the Lumia 520 : cheap af, windows phone (?), and that's it. no-more-apps just phone, to call people, send mail and sms, take pictures and browse.
But it wasn't that great : bad specs, horrid UI (disgusting metro) and OS (updates made it crash frequently), camera with no flash, and the most terrible on-screen keyboard I ever used.
>As a response to all those problems I had with the Lumia I tried the Q10 and finally settled with the phone I always wanted.
