Please explain why you aren't installing Ubuntu 16.04 right this second!
Because I don't just jump on new shit right away
>>54150117
i will not use canonical products
they have made a pact with the beast
>>54150117
It's not officially out yet
Because with linux my trackpad and HDMI output dont work
Also Autodesk software
Because it's still downloading.
Ill try it in a vm and probably will delete it after a few days.
>>54150117
how much do canonical pay for the daily pr before a new release
I'm jelly I won't have Snap for a little while but I'm on 15.10 and I'll just wait until 16.10 comes out.
>>54150117
already done.
>>54150117
downloading the iso right now
i'll wait a month to jump from 14.04
i'm downloading it to try on a VM though.
>>54150149
this
canonical a diabolical shit
I've been using it for a few months now.
Because I have a Radeon GPU
>>54150117
I'm not gay.
>>54150117
Because it's Ubuntu.
>>54150117
Because I don't have brain damage.
>>54150149
It's sad that so many linux users are stuck in the 90's where Microsoft is the preeminent evil corporation.
>>54150344
>>54150346
>Obangoo is ruining muh secrit l33t klub
>>54150385
No. Just no reason to use it. Especially since they have the flavors.
Unity.
>>54150117
I'm doing int. Switchin to kubuntu asap tho.
>>54150117
botnet
downloading it right now.
>>54150117
Waiting for gnome version.
>>54150359
It's actually peaked at evil level in the past years.
Because im at work
>>54150481
just install gnome? tf
>>54150117
Why would I? Manjaro does literally everything better and you have access to the AUR.
>>54150359
>he thinks MS stopped being evil
>>54150499
>muh embrace extend extinguish nonsense
>>54150499
They removed the Amazon botnet in this version if that's what you're saying
>>54150517
Why would you use Manjaro and not Antergos if you wanted Arch done easy?
Already have it running
Because I have already installed the superior KDE Neon
>>54150517
>using a hobbyist distro based on a hobbyist distro
>no Cinnamon flavor
Why though?
>>54150554
There is nothing superior about KDE.
>>54150117
>8:12 remaining
What does this mean?
>>54150571
Because mint is a thing.
where the fuck is the link to download it? their site still has like 14 and 15 links
>>54150581
it's microwave time
Because I installed Xubuntu 16.04 beta2 faggot OP
I'll install it this weekend when my memepad parts come in.
>>54150571
Mint makes cinnamon. Mint is based on ubuntu. Wait for mint to make their version
>>54150532
Last I knew Antergos regularly broke their installer. Plus Manjaro delays everything but security updates to make sure that the update doesn't break everything.
Also, Manjaro has a nicer logo.
>>54150617
>using unstable software
What's it called this time? Skanky Squirrel?
ubuntu is the pooinloo of GNU+Linux
>>54150654
That would be Red Hat.
>>54150117
Because I'm busy installing your future sibling in your mom.
>>54150117
because it's spyware as stallman said
>>54150643
I've been using the beta for a few months without any problems.
Because I just installed Gentoo last week and I haven't gotten bored with figuring it out yet.
>>54150670
my mothers as dead as my arch installation
what does this mean in terms of my privacy? Does canonical infringe upon my privacy? I want to use Ubuntu but I have never gotten a thorough answer to this question
>>54150527
Disabled*
Would like to try it out but I don't see a link
already did
>>54150617
Xfce is dead
>>54150706
I think in unity 7 they disabled the amazon searching
>>54150723
yes
>>54150723
>What is google
Because I prefer debian, arch and gentoo over it.
>>54150706
The Amazon spyware has been removed. Ubuntu is as much of a botnet as Debian, which, according to Assange, probably is.
>>54150117
What's the difference?
I've never really understood anything but rolling release.
>>54150754
DISABLED*
FFS
>>54150157
>>54150601
>>54150723
http://releases.ubuntu.com/
are you this fucking new
>>54150117
But I already have anon
>>54150581
8 out of 12 packages remaining to install.
>>54150571
Overrated.
>>54150775
Retard
>>54150117
Because I'm downloading Lubuntu 16.04. I might actually check out regular Ubuntu this time just to see if it actually does live up to the hype. Never been a fan of Unity though.
>>54150765
To the end user those are effectively the same things.
I installed the dialy build yesterday, is there any difference between that and the one released today? can't just update the packages?
>>54150775
>downloading beta isos confirmed by canonical dev
>>54150732
like my mother
>>54150775
I don't see what being new has to do with it. Seems logical for the latest release to be on the download page, no?
>>54150812
Sheeit you dun fucked up anon better reinstall
Where is 16.04 on the Ubuntu website? I still only see 14 and 15.
>>54150812
its the exact same shit
Is Unity still a bloated piece of shit that pretty much uses more resources than fucking Windows?
>>54150845
http://releases.ubuntu.com/
>>54150845
It isn't released yet.
>>54150117
because I have class in a few hours and I have some reading to catch up on. will be installing afterwards. it'll be my first distro!
>>54150699
Well, usually when arch inevitably dies you have to fuck with it till it comes back to life again, so you will get to see her again soon.
And she'll be compiling a better version of you.
>>54150297
Same
Thanks OP, upgrading from the beta now
>>54150893
Be careful dude the programming on this one isn't that great so far, they have misnamed firmware files and it takes 20 seconds to fully boot even on my really fast computer..
>>54150117
downloading right now
>>54150117
Because it's a GPL violation to do so and I still run GPLv2 software elsewhere.
>>54150929
>XFCE
update-manager SAYS IT'S UP TO DATE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
HELP ME IM 14.04 LTS ALREADY
>>54150799
I don't know which one I'll run long term, but it'll be one of these. I just can't bring myself to do the KDE, GNOME and other stuff anymore. This will my first time checking out Unity in a few years.
Because last time I have tried Kubuntu, KDE was poorly maintained. I will just stick with OpenSUSE.
>>54150967
Why would you download all of them? You can just install the others once you get one
how do I install good amd drivers on it
>>54150965
run update-manager -d
did i do something wrong?
should i contact Amazon customer service??
>>54150775
Is it the Release version or Beta?
lol @ all the nerds not using arch itt.
Because it doesn't use pacman or have aur
Well I update mine from 14.04 and now it crashes on boot
Bravo, Canonical
>using Noobuntu
>>54151003
>>54151009
>Not dual-booting Ubuntu and Arch.
>>54150960
I've used pretty much every Linux desktop, they're all shit in their own ways. What do you use?
>>54151003
There's simply no point using Arch for real work. With Ubuntu I get a stable base system I can depend on for 5 years and upgrades to my web browsers which is all I need updated. There's benefit to using a Debian based distro on your dev machine if you use Debian based servers.
non ubuntu users are gay
>>54151081
>>54151009
Also, if you're going to faff about with arch, you might as well do it properly and just use Gentoo.
ebuilds > aur
portage > pacman
>>54151048
All desktop enviroments are shit. I just use i3 with Arch never went back to any other thing.
>>54151106
Arch users just love to feel like they accomplished something by following a Wiki page.
>>54151106
Arch is lazy man's systemd gentoo.
It takes 8 hours to install gentoo, not everyone wants to do that. I installed arch in about 15 minutes.
>>54151081
Eh,I was just being an autist for the lulz.
The reason why I installed arch was because linux is part of my college syllabus and I wanted to get some hands on experience with the OS.
Truth be told,pacman has fucked up my system once and I would like to switch,but there's so much stuff installed here and I don't have a very fast internet connection so I am sticking with it.
AUR is really nice though.
>>54151129
Fluxbox is pretty nice, if you like floating wms.
>>54150995
>not using Windows 10 with Ubuntu
>>54151106
Elaborate. Also, Gentoo is way more high maintenance than Arch. Despite the memes, Arch is actually very low effort.
>>54151138
>S-someone has an opinion on the internet! And it's different than mine!
It's out
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
>>54150117
because im on debian. Thanks for beta testing faggot, I'll have the stable version in 10 years time
>>54150117
Cause im a gamer
What's the best thing to do with a fresh Ubuntu install? I've never seriously used a linux desktop.
>inb4 install gentoo instead
Because I use Debian sid
>>54150932
> 10GB RAM used
The fuck?
>>54151218
Use it like you would use anything else.
>>54151218
Install themes and stuff.
>>54151087
Ubuntu users like to use their OS for work, Arch users like to work on their OS.
>>54151236
I don't see why that's a problem. That leaves 22 GB for other things
>>54150117
Not available yet... at least in Germany
>>54151236
http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
>>54151170
If you value your time there's no reason to use either :^)
>>54150149
>>54150317
>>54150499
The 'evil beast' that has begun to release all of its development tools and frameworks completely open sourced under the MIT license.
Evil or not, .NET is becoming an amazing stack to work with.
>.NET is open source
>C# is open source
>Xamarin is open source
>Visual Studio Code (however, not the main Visual Studio) is open source
>Unity is going open source
Netbeans, Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and Canonical are joining the .NET Foundation.
.NET is to be included as a first class development platform on Red Had Enterprise Linux servers.
You can get RHEL on Azure now.
These are GOOD things for all developers, whether you like or hate Microsoft.
>>54151258
>>54151261
Nothing ever breaks for me though. Configuring new applications takes a couple of minutes. Once you have all your applications already, there's nothing left to "work on" unless it's on purpose for fun.
>>54151236
>KDE
not surprised
>>54151203
Finally
if i dist-upgrade, will i have to reconfigure grub and install graphics drivers again?
>>54150117
Because I run Debian unstable with XFCE and it works great already.
>>54151286
>http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
Still no in-place upgrade available
>>54150117
It has a fatal bug its partitioning manager, gparted, in which it fails to support eMMC memory, and thus is unable to be installed on a device that uses eMMC memory. With more and more devices being manufactured with eMMC memory, Ubuntu has fallen behind.
>>54151285
the only reason they are embracing open source is so they can lock things down again later. They did this with MSN back then.
But you know that already don't you
>>54151328
you pray
>>54150570
I don't mind Ubuntu but I've been running same Manjaro setup for few years without issues. It seems that "hobbyist" are doing something good.
>>54151344
wait for tomorrow?
Because I'm waiting for Linux Mint 18.
>>54151366
B-but I want to upgrade NOW
what's the best linux to try from a windowsfag perspective?
>>54151399
So use glorious American servers that are always up to date
>>54150909
chroot into mom?life-install /dev/mom
update-life
Done, your mom is up and kicking.
>>54151406
Lindows or Linspire imo
>>54151360
>the only reason they are embracing open source is so they can lock things down again later.
Do you know what the MIT license is?
All current releases of all of those things are free as in freedom. You can redistribute, modify, and use them at your leisure.
Their development pricing model is moving towards testing toolsets, cloud hosting, and support for those things, just like RHEL did so well, with a bit of AWS rolled in.
For example, Xamarin is now completely free. However, if you're a serious enterprise dev shop, you can pay for a service to test run your application across all known Android and iOS devices to see global performance, compatibility, and potential configuration issues.
>>54151406
Mint
>>54151406
Xubuntu or Kubuntu.
>>54150117
because i have gentoo installed
>>54151203
^_^
>>54150117
What is it this time, "shitty squirrel"?
>>54151471
please tell me you are australian.
>>54150117
Ubuntu 15.10 and 15.04 both had no wireless drivers for my Lenovo y50-70 Laptop and I don't have a LAN capable Modem here. Tried everything and some manual driver installs after downloading them via phone, still did not work so I'm waiting until the final is out so I can try it one more time.
Because I have yet to decide if going with Ubuntu or Xubuntu as babby's first Linux distro.
Still xorg
Still tearing
>>54151344
i can download 16.04
sweden
>>54150960
XFCE is by far the best DE there is
>inb4 muh lightweight WM
>>54151490
wayland a SHIT
>>54151497
>XFCE is by far the best DE there is in my half-assed ignorant opinion
FTFY
>>54151507
So
At least it's not slowrg
>>54151415
Not gonna happen bro
Because I've been running dailies since January.
>still no mariadb in server
come on man
>gave it two days
>had difficulty with the new app center with .deb files
>unity crashed multiple times and with a GTK theme installed wouldn't maximize or minimize windows
>>54150149
to be frank this worries me too
>>54151512
>I don't like what you like so you're wrong
I guess I wait till Mint 18. Also, any opinions on Cinnamon? Is it good?
>>54151537
epic werewolf, are you one yourself?
>>54151543
>sudo dpkg -i dickinbutt.deb
>>54150117
because i installed ubuntu gnome 16.04.
why use a half assed version of gnome when you can just use actual gnome?
>>54150989
Idk but trying to install the new radeon ones from the site broke my installation
>already bricked my install
when will it be year of the linux desktop?
is it any better at doing an automatic dual boot install with windows? last time it fucked shit up so hard i couldnt repair the bootloader after i decided to stop using ubuntu and had to format that shit
Upgrade and it doesn't have gnome 3.20 what a fucking disgusting piece of garbage just
>>54151429
>Xamarin is completely free\
Except it's not. They are only releasing the runtime and command line tools. Most of the IDE stuff is still proprietary.
Remember that just because they release this version under MIT doesn't mean that they have any obligation to release any further versions under the same license.
Microsoft are open sourcing to counter Apple's market gains in the developer market. Once they become the monopoly again they'll close off again. This is the exact same shit they pulled with MSN.
>>54150980
Because I'm going to try them as LiveUSB before I decide to install one. Besides, why would I want a clusterfuck of libraries and shit that I don't need/want?
>>54151667
disk space is cheap
>>54151686
thats why i run windows
>>54151663
>Remember that just because they release this version under MIT doesn't mean that they have any obligation to release any further versions under the same license.
That's like the worst argument ever, any copyright holder doesn't have any obligation to release further versions under the same license, even under GPL.
>>54151663
>Most of the IDE stuff is still proprietary.
The major components of Xamarin are free as in freedom, but Xamarin Tools are now a bundled free as in beer component within Visual Studio 2015.
>Remember that just because they release this version under MIT doesn't mean that they have any obligation to release any further versions under the same license.
What possible benefit would they attain by all of a sudden close-sourcing future revisions?
Someone would just fork that revision and go from there, and developers would tell the official track to fuck off.
>Microsoft are open sourcing to counter Apple's market gains in the developer market.
Absolutely true.
>Once they become the monopoly again they'll close off again.
There is no reason for them to do this.
What are you even on about with MSN?
>>54151375
Why would you use an extra layer on Ubuntu managed by incompetent people?
>>54151406
Any Ubuntu 16.04 flavor (Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Ubuntu GNOME, Ubuntu MATE)
>>54151489
If you're coming from Windows, you should look into Xubuntu. Unity if you're coming from OSX. My opinion anyways.
because I run lfs, no need to switch.
>>54151663
>Except it's not. They are only releasing the runtime and command line tools. Most of the IDE stuff is still proprietary.
That's like saying C# isn't open source because Visual Studio isn't open source.
Dumb faggot.
>>54151763
>running a book
>>54151542
% apt show mariadb-server
Package: mariadb-server
Version: 10.0.24-7
Priority: optional
Section: universe/database
Source: mariadb-10.0
Origin: Ubuntu
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <[email protected]>
Original-Maintainer: Debian MySQL Maintainers <[email protected]>
Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
Installed-Size: 61.4 kB
Depends: mariadb-server-10.0 (>= 10.0.24-7)
Homepage: http://mariadb.org/
Download-Size: 13.1 kB
APT-Sources: http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 Packages
Description: MariaDB database server (metapackage depending on the latest version)
This is an empty package that depends on the current "best" version of
mariadb-server (currently mariadb-server-10.0), as determined by the MariaDB
maintainers. Install this package if in doubt about which MariaDB
version you need. That will install the version recommended by the
package maintainers.
.
MariaDB is a fast, stable and true multi-user, multi-threaded SQL database
server. SQL (Structured Query Language) is the most popular database query
language in the world. The main goals of MariaDB are speed, robustness and
ease of use.
>>54151686
So what you twat. I'll go about it my way.
>>54150868
>no https
>>54151791
oh neat
when did they add it and how come i cant find that they added it in the news or anything? youd think switching database would be news worthy
>>54150117
I don't need this shit, I'm not brain damaged.
>>54151809
apt show mysql-server
Package: mysql-server
Version: 5.7.11-0ubuntu6
Priority: optional
Section: database
Source: mysql-5.7
Origin: Ubuntu
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <[email protected]>
Original-Maintainer: Debian MySQL Maintainers <[email protected]>
Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
Installed-Size: 184 kB
Depends: mysql-server-5.7
Homepage: http://dev.mysql.com/
Task: lamp-server, mythbuntu-frontend, mythbuntu-desktop, mythbuntu-backend-slave, mythbuntu-backend-master, mythbuntu-backend-master
Supported: 5y
Download-Size: 10.1 kB
APT-Sources: http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 Packages
Description: MySQL database server (metapackage depending on the latest version)
This is an empty package that depends on the current "best" version of
mysql-server (currently mysql-server-5.7), as determined by the MySQL
maintainers. Install this package if in doubt about which MySQL version
you need. That will install the version recommended by the package
maintainers.
.
MySQL is a fast, stable and true multi-user, multi-threaded SQL database
server. SQL (Structured Query Language) is the most popular database query
language in the world. The main goals of MySQL are speed, robustness and
ease of use.
You get to choose if you want MariaDB or MySQL (honestly you're an idiot if you choose either, PostgreSQL is far superior).
>>54150932
>100% scaling
That magnifier must be really handy
>>54151828
oh really? is it drop in replacement like mariadb was for mysql?
>>54151828
Also as you can see MySQL is supported officially in the main Ubuntu repos for 5 years while MariaDB is in Universe (that's a bit unfortunate, but an understandable business decision by Canonical)
>>54151833
It's mostly ok, mate
>>54151838
No, Postgres has been around for ~20 years and is just a more sane database. MySQL is only as popular as it is because a lot of people use PHP on the LAMP stack and don't actually try anything else.
http://www.postgresql.org/about/users/
https://www.quora.com/Who-uses-PostgreSQL
Postgres is very popular in the non-PHP web community. People that use Python, Ruby, Erlang, Haskell, OCaml, and superior languages tend to use Postgres. MySQL is for PHP programmers that never think for themselves and stick to the status quo and do what they're told.
>tfw want to upgrade but don't want to break my 42 day uptime
>unity launcher on bottom
FEELS GOOD MAN
>>54151897
Don't worry m8. 42 days isn't shit.
>>54151886
i see. it does seem though that php has added an extension for it
https://secure.php.net/manual/en/ref.pdo-pgsql.php
i could probably make the php changes relatively easy to switch to this kind of pdo in my stack
>>54151914
Yeah I highly recommend Postgres, but do your own research.
you're right anon im doin it
>>54151721
I hold them to a higher standard because Microsoft has a horrible record on open source
>>54151736
>What possible benefit would they attain by all of a sudden close-sourcing future revisions?
The most likely scenario is:
They get market share, make a huge patch with lots of cool and useful features then release that under a proprietary license.
The FOSS community is stuck with their old version and don't have the resources to compete.
>There is no reason for them to do this.
It's a standard market move. Once you market dominance you want to do everything you can to keep it. The tech industry does this by locking shit down.
>What are you even on about with MSN?
Back in the days AOL was king and Microsoft came out with this brand new shiny product called MSN which they promised would beinterconnectable with other services.
Once they got market share and toppled AOL, they not only didn't develop those interconnectability features, they actively shut out other services from connecting to it.
There is a reason why they are known as the evil company
Because the newer kernel doesn't let me use hdmi output.
>>54151942
i really appreciate your insight. i ran into a problem where after i restarted my machine the first time, i could no longer log into my database as apparently 'localhost is not allowed to connect'. i tried googling around, and i could get in with --skip-grant-tables, but im unable to make changes to the users with that on, and unable to connect with it off. so right now -skip-grant-tables is the only way for it to work as far as i know.
btw if its not obvious by now, im just a hobbyist...
it actually doesn't work on both my machines.
i have a netbook with an intel atom n2600 with a gma3600 which is simply a reskinned power vr gpu similar to the gma500. so no driver for me on linux.
on my desktop i have a 1280*1024 sony lcd monitor which can't be detected and resolution gets stuck at max 1154*950 or something like that
on the other side on my mom's old core duo pentium acer it is a pleasure to use, laterar scroll on touchpad works and all fn keys are ready to use.
Someone tell me if it still does that fucking stupid thing where if you go to the workspace view and then drag a window to a new workspace really fast the whole UI locks up
I hate it
>>54151979
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PostgreSQL#Prominent_users
What operating system are you running and how did you install PostgreSQL?
Generally when I install postgresql-server with apt I like to do something like this:
$ sudo su - postgres
$ psql
$ create role MY_UNIX_USERNAME with superuser login;
At that point, you should be able to simply type `psql` at the prompt on your normal Unix shell and get access to the Postgres comamnd line.
>>54150117
Because I have Debian. Feelsgoodman.
>>54151950
At the end of the day, the facts are that Microsoft is making lots of very important development tools free and open source.
You're just saying
>Well what if they do bad thing?
Look at the direction the company is going.
Look at where they make their money.
Making these tools as free and accessible as possible only helps them in the long run as they focus on cloud services in the Azure platform.
I understand your apprehension, but if you look at the market, the money, and the actual direction they're headed, you'd understand that what you're saying is simply not likely.
It really seems like you have a very rudimentary understanding of what Microsoft currently offers the enterprise-level client, which is leading to you shallow, knee-jerk outlook on their open-source initiative.
>>54151285
>implying the ride will ever end
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents
>"extending these protocols and developing new protocols" and "de-commoditize protocols & applications." This policy has been nicknamed "embrace, extend, extinguish".
Document I also suggests that open source software "is long-term credible ... FUD tactics can not be used to combat it," and "Recent case studies (the Internet) provide very dramatic evidence ... that commercial quality can be achieved / exceeded by OSS projects."
>>54152052
oh no sorry, i was having the problem with mariadb. you telling me that postgresql is better made me think i might be able to just switch to it and not have to fix the mariadb server, while praying the same problem doesnt happen again.
and i run the stack on windows. in fact the reason im in this thread was because i was waiting for the new ubuntu to come out for this to be my first foray into trying to get a linux server to work.
Cause I'm using a real manly linux OS, Gentoo!
>>54152099
Surely all those staff are still decision makers, and they haven't changed their outlook in nearly two decades!
Fucking idiot.
>>54152127
>Surely all those staff are still decision makers, and they haven't changed their outlook in nearly two decades!
Yes EEE is still a thing and is exactly what's happening right now
Things only got worse in (current year)
>make new folder in subdir with items menu
>nautilus crashes
wow this bug must be six years old and it's still there
jee wiz, free software, everybody
I'll stick to OS X on my personal machines and Linux on my servers, where it belongs
>>54150117
I don't want to break my perfect and riced 14.04 installation.
>>54151258
>root@andreas:~#
That's a riskyyyy moooove.
>>54150117
Because i have been using the beta for about a month now, and it upgraded silently to the full release without problems.
>>54150117
becuause I'm downloading it still
>>54151236
>KDE
>>54151903
This desu
>>54152398
...old server at work or something?
>Download 16.04
>Drag some windows around
>Dragging lags (not big lag but less than 60fps, prob ~30fps)
>inb4 get a better PC
I don't give a shit, if Windows can drag windows at 60fps with my hardware, so should Linux.
INTO THE TRASH IT GOES
>>54150117
I prefer to have an Arch based distro, because of the AUR. I might install it on a live USB tho.
>>54152415
No, my digital ocean b0x for personal use
>>54152427
>arch
Suck my gentoo faggot archnigger cuck
because linux a shit
>>54152426
install gpu drivers you twat
>>54150329
http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=23001
http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=22957
http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=22969
http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=22942
Some benchmarks
>>54152540
I have an 5870 which uses r600g which come installed by default on Ubuntu. Even then, if I wanted to use proprietary fglrx (which I've tried in 14.04 and it's the same shit), 16.04 doesn't support fglrx so the drivers I have are the only possible drivers.
>>54152099
>1998
>>54150117
No amd support.
>>54150117
Because I'm using 16.10, faggot
>Want to try linux
>About to download Ubuntu
>Dig a bit
>Xubuntu
>Kubuntu
>Lubuntu
because debian is better
>>54150117
Because I use Debian Stable.
>>54152788
just try default ubuntu, then youtube other distributions to see if their desktop environment is more interesting to you, then try it
Because Unity is absolutely useless. Literally the worst DE out there by far.
>>54152788
old computers
not old computers
old shitty computers
respectively
>>54152861
And what about Ubuntu?
Also pic related is my computer, it ain't Skynet but gets the job done.
>>54152852
They're all pretty bad. I tried all of them and tried to like them but just couldn't. Window managers are generally better, and there's even more of them to choose from.
>>54150117
Ubuntu MATE has 16.04 ISO but can you do an in place upgrade? I have always liked that Ubuntu has always been reliable at updating without having to do a clean installation.
>>54152885
Plasma 5 is the only one I tolerate in principle, but refuse to use because it's so buggy/unpolished. Funnily enough, even though it was always called bloated, it's one of the fastest DEs out there (try it if you don't believe me, mostly because its QT / C++, instead of memescript, pyshit and whatever most DE now use).
Currently running Cinnamon but it's slow as shit (is it so hard to get constant 60fps on some fucking windows? Holy shit)
>>54152944
this is why i dont use linux for the desktop, its a fucking abortion all the way through
>>54152882
basically it comes down to personal preference, since all those different flavors only have different DEs.
XFCE and MATE are popular choices, both better suited for weaker computers
>>54152944
>buggy
I'm running Plasma 5.6 and I can't think of a single bug that I've run into. I do agree that it's unpolished, but it's still way more polished than any other DE.
Never change a running system. 14.04 with i3wm runs just fine.
>>54153027
Haven't tried 5.6, but 5.5 would sometimes not start (after logging in it got stuck loading forever, so had to reboot), and often crash (doesn't REALLY affect usability because it is a 0.5 second freeze and after that you get the pop up saying Plasma has crashed and restarted, but like seriously?).
This was running open source radeon
Also in linux it's really common if you run gaymes, that the game will crash and you have literally no other way of closing it (because alt tab wont work) other than switching to another TTY and killing it from the TTY. For the average user this of course means he will have to restart the whole PC.
>>54151406
Lubuntu for win98
Xubuntu for win 7
>>54150117
Because I've been using it since Beta 2 release.
>>54152788
install ubuntu and try out various desktop environments
or just install gentoo
