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This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that is required to make a fine watch.
Required viewing for newbies:
https://youtu.be/508-rmdY4jQ
Strap guide:
http://pastebin.com/SwRysprE
Previous thread:
>>54034838
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So it's been a while since I've actually really tried to lead any discussion here or try and start a thread with a topic, basically like before November, but I think it's about time. Conversation has been stale, the entire last thread was mostly just a "what watch are you wearing" thread.
So I'm starting off with an image of an Urwerk UR-110 because it's a really unique piece, and Urwerks often get posted here simply as a representation of large and flashy watches, and no one has taken the time to talk about mechanically what's actually happening with the watches. And while some Urwerks are very large (and others are fucking gigantic) there is some cool things going on there. I hope to share with you if you haven't taken the time to look.
Take a look at this image. It's not the typical fare. The complication or mechanism we're looking at is called a "wandering" or "floating" hour display.
Here is an image that more directly shows you how the wondering hour works. The correct hour is the only part normally seen when covered, and the rest are underneath.
There is 3 wheels with 4 hours on each of them. The main part of the mechanism turns, changing which wheel is visible, and the wheels turn changing which hour is visible.
Here's the Harry Winston Opus V manufactured with, you guess it, Urwerk. This one as you can see has a hand on the end of the hour pointing to the correct minutes, but there's only 1 hand. That's because this is also a retrograde minute hand, and ass the new hour turns at 0, the hand will come back to the new wandering hour hand.
Now something you notice about the Urwerk designs is that it's not /exactly/ the same as the other wondering hour designs we've looked at. Take a look at this. Rather than 3 wheels orbiting a central point, and themselves turning along the same plane, the rotation of the hour 'wheel' here is actually at a right angle to the plane of orbit.
And while the Urwerk is cool, you know what else is cool? Mechanical digital watches. We all love the Zeitwerk, but it certainly was not the first, digital mechanical watches far predate any mechanical alternatives. It's kind of odd to need to point that out, but I do so only because it's such a common mistake for newbies to make, when they still don't understand that analog and mechanical don't mean the same thing.
But really I bring up digital watches just to finish with my favorite type of wandering hour watch. A wandering jump hour, like this Analogica. This uses a wandering hour that points to the current minutes just like the other ones we've looked at. But with an instant jump at the end of the hour, it makes it a true digital hour display that itself acts as an analog hand for minutes. For this particular watch it also has a date that rotates around the perimeter, it's at the top because it's currently set to the 31st, on the 15th of the month it would be at the bottom. This creates a very simple overall look, to a watch that is actually quite impressive.
Obviously there's a lot I didn't cover here, because it's already covered elsewhere for the most part if you just google it, and I'm not going to recreate it all, I just wanted to introduce this unique mechanism to you because if you find it as interesting as I do, there's going to be a lot you're going to find and enjoy when you search and learn about it. If you find something particularly cool, make sure to share it here.
So /g/, what do you think?
>>54060525
I was about to ask if there was a wandering hour that worked just like this. Now is there something like this that mortals could have a chance at owning?
>>54060580
Depends what you mean by mortals. Does under 10k work? Because that's doable,
And Analogica was just posted last month for under 9k
http://forums.watchnet.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=768975&rid=0
You could get a rougher wandering jump hour pocket watch for under that, not sure how much though.
Does anyone know of any other mechanical watches with a power reserve for under $200? I have an Orient CEZAD001B, but I'd like another similar watch.
>inb4 power reserves suck
I like being able to know whether my automatic watch is actually wound or not BEFORE I'm late to work because the watch ran out of power.
Have an escapement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQJFRt-2hDk
>>54060646
>buying a fake casio
why?
>>54060642
Orients tend to dominate the cheap power reserve market.
Keep in mind, you could a watch that can manual wind. If it's in the morning and you want to make sure your watch has juice, then you'd just turn the crown.
>>54060544
>>The video rotates in both directions multiple times
>>It must be a conspiracy to make seiko look good
>My lord, anon.
The Seiko in question DOES look good.
I was just noticing.
>tfw your watch finally does come in the mail.
What does your watch say about you?
>>54060798
>thailand
You sure it isn't a franken?
>>54060677
because their a dollar, and it has all the same functions along with the water resistance
SKX owner here wondering what's on the next rung of the dive watch ladder, any suggestions?
People kept on complaining about everyone falling for the penis watch meme so I thought Id reverse the trend by going double.
>>54060836
They had very good ratings for other vintage watches, but most importantly its quartz so the risk is much lower.
>>54060868
Could look at sumo. Or step a couple rungs up and check out a tuna can.
>>54060868
On the Seiko ladder the new SRP divers, then Marine Master or Tuna, then GS Spring Drive Diver. You can go from $100-$10,000 and never leave Seiko.
If you want to branch out, it's time to start looking at boutique divers like maybe Halios or Helson.
>>54060868
Magrette springs to mind.
>>54060964
>Magrette
oh yeah
Good ideas in dive watches!
>>54060460
>>54060383
I think they make really neat movements but there has to be a more tasteful way they can be presented, this shit is gaudy as fuck.
>>54060943
>>54060868
Also the sumo at $300 and the shogun at $700, the lovely SSC chronos too.
>>54061051
De Bethune
MB & F
Still way over the top but they reach for art deco instead of Unreal Tournament.
>>54061051
I want them precisely because of the looks.
>>54060863
>their
>>54061111
Can you dial the Stargate with that?
>>54061196
I'm so mad about the number of cool watches that they totally fucking ruin with that pig disgusting 5 hand
>>54060693
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjPmam98Oeo
A REMINDER THAT MECHANICAL WATCHES ARE A MEME
QUARTZ WATCHES ARE ACCURATE ALL THE TIME AND MUCH EASIER TO SERVICE
STOP SUPPORTING THE MECHANICAL INDUSTRY
>>54061215
yeah,looks stupid
>>54061264
Why you mad tho?
>>54061258
That's pretty neat. It only calls out to the quarter hour though?
>>54061332
Wouldn't this escapement make the second hand stutter a lot with one beat being small and the other big?
Any reason not to buy one of these at $145?
>>54061498
Not wild about the strap but seems like alright value for the money. You're basically paying for the crystal and getting a watch with it.
>>54061195
It can get in your mom's pants though.
>>54061478
I honestly have no idea.
If it did, presumably there is some simple workaround.
http://www.watchprosite.com/?page=wf.forumpost&fi=11&ti=432676&pi=2596866
>>54060383
>>54060388
>>54060411
>>54060429
>>54060441
>>54060460
>>54060483
>>54060525
>>54060637
>>54060693
Jesus Christ, NineBalls!!! Take it easy, it's friday's night my friend. Don't you have a date or something??
>Those schlongs ain't going to ride themselves.
>>54061901
I'm playing Street Fighter V and doing laundry.
>>54061973
Poor taste in games just as in watches. :^)
>>54061973
>wild party man in person
I'm sad now.
>>54061973
Your life must be quite depressing, it's like you live for these threads.
>>54062158
Well look who has made them for the past several months.
>>54062158
I just 2-0 this R Mika
My socks will soon be clean
Pretty easy life.
Overall I'm pretty great. I could see why you'd rather shitpost about me than talk about watches.
>>54062158
I mean... you're just in here shitposting.
At least the tripfag posted content.
Going out on Friday nights is shit-tier anyway.
>>54062170
For the price of one decent watch, you could wear a perfect new pair of socks every single day for four years.
Food for thought.
>>54062326
I don't think I want to deal with large volumes of socks, or frequent sock purchases.
>>54062326
>not wearing the same exact thrift store clothes every single day until they fall apart in order to save money for cool watches to impress /g/ with
>>54062378
Watches are cool, but fresh socks are literally better than sex and come with none of the complications.
>>54062409
>but fresh socks are literally better than sex
Not really, no.
>>54060646
I ordered 30 of these 1 dollar watches on ebay in January and they never came. How long did yours take?
Mercy bump
![1242de0dc3b14ec0b4a5cfc2930795b5[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/P8JKxcM.jpg "1242de0dc3b14ec0b4a5cfc2930795b5[1]")
Hey guys, what's going on in here?
>>54060383
They might be the most interesting watch engineering wise ever but it wouldn't matter as they look like a prop from a 1980's Arnie sci-fi movie.
Having said that please tell me more about why they are interesting.
My watch
>>54063321
Just keep reading.
>>54063370
Yes apologies. It is very interesting but the style would put me off if I had that kind of cash.
>>54063349
I'm surprised they don't sponsor the F1 driver Lewis Hamilton. Then they could release an over priced special edition "designed" by him that has 'Lewis' added to the dial.
>>54063507
That would be so gay
>tfw no Citizen Promaster
Even the box it comes with in is amazing, too bad I spend my entire 3 month budget for watches on a SARB033 and an Amphibia.
How can the SKX even compete?
>>54063648
>Even the box it comes with in is amazing
>>54063716
>Not appreciating watch boxes, as well as the mirco-engineering and materials engineering that is required to make a fine watch box.
stay pleb ninefag
>>54063648
>tfw when i got mine for 50$
>>54063815
I now bud, you are the reason why I'm checking eBay all the time to see if I get such a deal. Fuck you Shlomo.
>>54063851
Check /f29/ too, saw a couple that people asked 120$ for a while back.
Managed to sell my SKX along with a bunch of shit straps there for 200$ recently, so you can always get a good deal or sale there.
>>54063883
Nice advice, I've got a WUS account and I've been always curious about the sales corner. How can you trust someone on that site? Is there a way to be sure you are not getting scammed?
>>54063815
lol those hands...
someone was compensating gnamean
Opinions on this?
I like the F91W but I don't want to look like a massive poorfag.
Also I've seen a couple of people here buying fake casios, I got one for free and I still feel jewed.
It weights pretty much nothing, feels like shit and gets +/- 5 min/month.
>>54063914
It's always a risk/
Know your shit and check if the seller isn't a new account who just recently posted a lot.
Most scammers just try to work with watches that will bring them big bucks (Rolex,Omega etc). Also check from where the seller is, quite a few Indians,Philipino and various other south east Asian sellers there that might try to sell so called Philippines reworks.
So far two watches sold there, and milked that guy on the SKX pretty good. Managed to unload like 5 spare straps that i didn't use for shekels.
>>54063585
I know, that's why I'm surprised they haven't done it.
>>54061111
This right here is the problem I have with many mechanical digital watches. There is too much negative space. A. Lange has solved that issue the best I think by including analog seconds and power reserve to fill the empty space.
>>54063997
its really small but I eventually grew to like it. Also I have very thin wrists so if your wrist are average it may just look bad on you.
>>54064816
18 cm wrists, but yeah the F91w already looks small for me.
>>54060383
Waiting for this to come in the mail.
Did i fuck up?
>>54064886
Yes
>>54059136
I know this one but I don't feel so confident about buying something from G.Gerlach. They proudly say that they support polish engineers and polish products, but when you check other watches you see chinese mechanisms. Only belts and cases are made in Poland.
However, the Unitra-like one is really interesting, screw the chinese module if the case looks almost the same like in the old Unitra. I'll think about buying it, but the price is pretty high now.
My Tudor fever is back. Some ancient 1996 Submariners look almost the same but Rolex is so tacky,
>>54065363
How much?
I really like it.
>>54065363
Dunno. On a local forum someone shot an iPhone pic in a store and it looked kinda unflattering. But then again, it's just an iPhone pic in a store.
Would have to look it up, since that was the only watch of their I was interested in, since I don't really like their own designs.
>>54065370
If you're getting a Tudor sub, might as well go with the snowflake hands and not the mercedes.
>>54064886
You didn't not fuck up, but you may not have un-fucked up.
>>54065363
Most microbrands work like that. Chiński made doesn't mean poorly made (anymore). It's designed - and hopefully quality controlled - by Polish watch enthusiasts like yourself.I don't know of any other electronic digital watches with 316L and sapphire crystal.
That you need to press the button to see the time and that it's 40mm completely kills it for me though.
How big is your Unitra anyway?
>>54065376
800pln new from G. Gerlach, seen one go on /f29/ for £120.
>>54065636
s n o w f l a k e
>>54066399
>>54065636
Does anyone have that Swiss Meme pic for Tudor?
>>54066405
>someone requests my OC
>>54066390
Yeah, a bit pricey for me right now.
That's about the 2015 pelagos though.
This one is more based on the vintage ones.
>>54066477
Wait a year or so and look for a third hand barely used one on /29/ or some local forum. Will hopefully be quite a bit cheaper.
>>54066461
Thanks, Ive love the subtly of it. As thanks ill share a funny screencap I took
>>54066575
Not sure how many have caught on that the fucked up leading is on the actual pelagos dial as well.
>>54066731
I think some people really do enjoy it, like subdials
>>54063507
and I think Hamilton is already sponsored by IWC? Or am I confusing two of them.
Last time when I was in
L O N D O N
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D
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I went to the IWC boutique and they had a selection of marked up watches from an F1 driver.
>>54067583
You are right.
>>54067880
I hope that whole watch is titanium.
>>54063815
It's pretty good looking, but I hate how the hands overlap in the centre, there's no reason for that part to be that big, it's not lumed or anything. By the way how is the lume? Comparable to SKX?
I also like that they put lume next to date window, doesn't ruin the aesthetic as it does on many watches, just wondering if maybe it should be more like on the 9 index, basically mirrored, but cut off at the start of date window, now it's just a rectangle extending from the date window
are there any cheap digital casios that display the days of the week in kanji instead of english abbreviations?
>>54060525
These look really neat, and the concept is pretty unique, but... Don't they basically use an ETA 2892? Obviously with some modifications so you can get the wandering hours complication, and yes they are a lot more interesting than most of the crap at this price point, but still... Something about paying $10k for an ETA movement...
Correct me if I'm wrong, because if I am, then this is just beyond neat.
>>54068238
There's no need to reinvent the wheel every time you want to make a vehicle.
>>54061120
Wow I like the plain and flat looking dial, what us this?
>>54068131
Lume is pretty good, feels slightly better then the Orient Ray.
>>54068374
>wheel
>>54061997
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>54068131
I think the SKX looks a lot more visually pleasing, but this one looks more utilitarian. The 8 o'clock crown is actually a very good idea on a dive watch, doesn't get caught on anything and won't dig into your wrist.
I'm willing to bet the movement is also a hell of a lot better than the SKX.
I want a smallish ( less than 38mm) dress watch.
Nomos tangente 38mm is sexy as fuck but I dont want to drop 2k on a watch.
Ive considered stowa antea but im not too sure since their cases are made in china.
Any other options?
Budget is 1k.
>>54069171
It's the Miyota 8203, pretty much the same as the rest of the 82XX series. Handwinding,durable and supposed to have a better accuracy out of the factory (+20/-10) via Citizen's specs.
>>54069325
![865f082d3d20291214baa8d188be6caf[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EXA5QyJ.jpg "865f082d3d20291214baa8d188be6caf[1]")
Why tag heuer receive so much hate here?
>>54070150
Because they are poorfags and some swearing australian youtuber told them so. No one says shit about Tag in real life anywhere.
Also the agressive sports related marketing drives betamales into a corner.
>>54070150
Because it's soft like dogshit
>nice one Archie, great vid
>>54070150
TAG Heuer gets a lot of hate from all watch afficionados everywhere. Because they deliver extremely overpriced for the quality they give. (no Bivers "latest" marketing move doesn't really affect that) Because they lie about their movements. Because they have asian microbrand tier QC. And so on.
What you posted however, is rightfully cherished by the same group. Heuer was a great brand. Tag fucked it all up.
>>54070305
>No one says shit about Tag in real life anywhere.
Superb kek.
Among watch enthusiasts and collectors modern Tag Heuer watches are somewhat of a joke. Vintage models are a totally different history, though.
>>54070546
They need to lose the 'TAG' as the TAG group doesn't own them anymore, go back to just Heuer and sort out the QC etc.
>>54063648
> A FUCKING FIRE EXTINGUISHER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91Ht_yxLJdc
>>54070976
>fire extinguisher
Are you serious?
>>54066390
>Chiński made doesn't mean poorly made (anymore)
I completely understand, I'm not against Chinese clockworks, but the strange attitude of the people from G.Gerlach
Check their site
http://gerlach.org.pl/all_about_the_g_gerlach_foundation.html
>We realised, that even though many products are produced in Poland, very few of those products were invented and designed in our country. Poland is one of the largest manufacturers of cars in Europe – so what if all of those cars were designed abroad.They’re just made in Poland. The same goes for airplanes, fridges, TVs and many more items.
>We also want to support Polish engineers, technicians, specialists in design and ergonomy and help them put their ideas into production.
So what is Polish here? The watch case, the watch dial and the band. The most important thing is Chinese.
>>54071114
Have you watched the video, anon?
>>54071344
I have now, my mistake.
Can anyone recommend some chink metal bands? I've been using NATO and leather bands, but I want to try metal mesh bands or something. Just for variety.
Promaster Shlomo, you there?
Should I buy this one? It's a blue bezel one, it's clearly used but not extremely beat up. I like the fact that it comes with its original stainless steel bracelet, which is not common to see on eBay. Maybe I could get a decent price, just a bit more expensive than yours.
>>54071544
Btw
>DON
I'm afraid the date wheel is in German/English and not German/Japanese and definitely not English-Japanese like I would like it to be.
>>54063815
Forgot your (you) :^)
>>54071544
>>54071575
I need a new style I'm pretty sick of g-shocks. What's good right now?
>>54071544
>>54071575
>>54071638
Shlomo here.
I guess you could get it, seems a lil bit more beat then mine but the blue dial with the sunburst effect seems very nice. I'd consider trying to source a pepsi insert, they pop up from time to time for sale.
But the bracelet isn't necessarily a big plus. You can buy decent aftermarket ones that have solid links, for about 35$ on ebay. (Curved endlinks though)
Are those chink shark mesh straps any good?
>>54059777
reposting and pointing out my only trips for years
what are good watches similar in look to sarx011 or sarx027? I like the size and shape factors. i like seiko's designs, but most of the "classy" watches still have the large lug area, and i want a watch without that. looking at the sarx027 but i'd like to find some non-aliexpress tier watches that are options, but at the same time below $400 because i will only be wearing it a couple times a month or so.
>>54071788
Toda m8, thanks for the quick response.
What do you think about the date wheel? It looks like it's gonna be most probably German/English right? The date in kanji is one of the cool factors imo. Hope the seller answers on time to my question.
>>54060383
>>54060388
>>54060411
>>54060429
>>54060441
>>54060460
>>54060483
>>54060525
As a concept these are the best I've ever seen. This is hands down the best way to display time aside from an digital read out. The thought that went into this had to be astounding.
My only complaint is that Urwerk's designs seem to be rather thick, but technically they are masterpieces.
>>54071867
Well shit, don't have much to do while sick in bed.
I also do think it's an English/German day wheel, but i'm no expert in these Promasters.
>>54068449
I think that model is the Spork, if I remember right. I also think it may be discontinued.
>>54072349
You would be correct on both counts. The model is the SRP043.
>>54071854
Did you take a look at Zeppelin?
>>54072549
i am now, thanks. not a fan of the blue on the log though. i love understated
You'll never guess.
>>54072672
I think it will be small enough irl to be understated. In fact I didn't even notice it's a different color until you pointed it out.
>>54072861
>gift wrapping
I'm sorry anon. It's a Fossil, right?
>>54072861
Either chink made or vintage slav watch.
>>54072877
It's new.
>>54072910
Looks chink to me. But I'm not sure.
US$ 4
>>54073032
>>54072994
Why not get a proper Osama approved F91?
>>54072877
yeah you're probably right, the dials on the less-busy . I'm assuming since you recommended that there is good qc? and are all of their sub-$300 automatics filled with ETA-2826? can't find anything to say otherwise but i'd like to make sure
>>54072994
>>54073032
>Aqua
Good god. Is this NOS? Watches like these were everywhere in muh country in the early 90's, they were chinkshit mimicking popular watches Jap/Western, but just different enough to be considered an original design and just sturdy enough to be considered an uber-poorfag alternative to a Casio or Timex. I had an Aqua as a kid in the 90's that now I know was a ripoff of a Timex Iron Man.
>>54073068
>>54073117
I only need it to work for 1 month, then I'll throw it in the trash.
>>54073085
I've seen some in store windows and from there they looked decent. The only one I've handled up close was a Ronda quartz model (pic) though. It was solidly built, but the all-brushed finish felt kinda cheap for me. I don't know how the other models are finished.
>>54073161
Don't, it's unique as fuck. What would have been even better if you got one of those 80's Hong-Kong ana-digi watches, where the digital part is electronic, but the analog is a HK-made pin-pallet movement with a plastic escapement. I'd show a pic of the ones I have, but once you take them apart you can't really put them back together, since the soft plastic pivots of the escape wheel and the lever will just bend instead of going into the pivot holes.
What do you guys think about 24-hour watches? I think the design looks cool, myself.
or, like, this guy
>>54074311
>rolexseadweller.jpg
>>54073916
Got the raketa 24h with word time bezel, I can just recommend it.
>>54073894
Meh
>>54074323
Where do you buy those? What are the drawbacks?
>>54073894
I can't think of an occasion it would be useful, most people know if it's am or pm.
>>54074478
eBay, I'm selling mine btw
>>54074478
Drawbacks?
It's not water resistant
Thinking about getting this g shock awg-m100 especially because of it's 6 band radio control. I this a good buy?
>>54074666
How much, and do you ship to the UK?
>>54074750
How much, and do you ship to the UK?
>>54074659
>I can't think of an occasion it would be useful, most people know if it's am or pm.
We're talking about wrist watches in 2016. I'm convinced that usefulness is a minor part of the discussion, if it's at all relevant.
>>54074776
88 pounds and it ships free to Ireland
I'm getting a red leather racing strap for my daily diver and no one can stop me
>>54074776
Im selling it for 99€ on eBay but Im accepting offers. I would at least accept 80€ and it and for 10€ more I will ship it to the UK from Germany. If you are interested tell me and I will change the setting so I can ship abroad.
>>54074323
That's a nice example. Put it on ebay now and I'll buy it.
>>54075026
Did you mean to reply to (>>54074770)
Pretty sure (>>54074776) is just an 'ironic' shitpost.
>>54074323
Your dials are mismatched. The cities are in English and the main dial is Russian. That's a frankenstein, it's not worth what you ask.
>>54075078
>bolumka
>0 items for sale
...
>>54074985
do you mean a rally strap?
>>54075695
No, a racing strap. Moron.
>>54075102
And like a fart on a windy day the russian watch seller disappeared
Now that's interesting.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Exceptionally-Rare-SEIKO-Demonstration-Model-For-LC-A039-Fully-Functional-/331829773209?hash=item4d42988399:g:IO8AAOSwd0BVyjlC
>>54075751
>Chinamansdreamwatch
>>54074311
post some full retard watches
>>54070546
How about Movado? What makes them an inferior brand?
>>54075963
>kid-squid limited edition
>>54076025
looks like a maison margiela paint drip watch.
>>54073161
For twice that you'd have a real Casio that would last ten years.
>>54075963
>>54076025
Who in their right minds would buy this? To impress the local kindergarten?
I'm thinking of getting an orient disk. I'm torn between the white one with blue and red accents or this japanese import with multicoloured numbers (pic related).
Here is the site with all the regular models and the white one I'm considering:
http://www.orient-watch.com/products/category/item/?category_id=136
Which one /g/?
>>54076349
The one with numbers is easier to read whilst the other is more stylish and has a much better colour wheel.
I have the chine function in my digital watch. What it do? What is the difference between leting it on or off?
>>54077134
It makes the watch chine brightly, anon.
>>54077134
It will beep on the hour and everyone is going to hate your guts for that stupid shit.
>>54076251
>To impress the local kindergarten?
What are the best fake watches lunch money can buy?
>>54078574
Any random crap you can find online.
Or just buy a real seiko 5.
considering buying a Rolex submariner
pic related is what I currently got
>>54060660
This is the definition of pseudo engineering right there.
All they basically did was redesigning a spring into a frame.
True engineering should be a mix of optimization, effectiveness, efficiency and simplicity for the sake of longevity. And not redesigning an old concept and sell it to dumb fucks that buy it because of it's novelty factor.
>inb4 that tripcuck asks "Why you no appreciate le fine craftsmanship™?" ;_;
Because, it's nothing hard for a top watchmaker to do such a thing.
Now, if some russian would design a nice movement from scrapmetal, with traktor repair tools, then i'd appreciate the craftsmanship.
R8?
>>54078826
B-but it has a tiny wire in the middle that improves constant force!!
Y u so angry???
>>54079051
waayyy too small
>>54079051
That looks a bit tight.
>>54079063
I'm actually pretty comfy right now, sitting with my coffe, listening to some radio music.
I did not go into detail to find out all the benefits, because it will be sold for a high price to sheeple.
There may be benefits, and only time and tests will show this, but even if the constant force reduces wear on other parts, it still doesn't matter.
Since the price of this thing is way higher than all service costs that the spring might save you.
>>54079145
>>54079161
Would you spastics please stop replying to dumb bait. You are the reason these turboautists keep posting.
>>54079220
But replying to your own bait to bait others is almost as fun as the initial baiting.
>>54079233
in after you got baited
>>54079051
This fat ugly girl needs a shave.
>>54079197
That doesn't magically make it "pseudo-engineering" because you say so.
It just makes you a lazy, willfully ignorant shitposting faggot.
>>54079197
>but even if the constant force reduces wear on other parts
What?
>>54079233
Explain me something, is it really about getting a (you)? I tought that people would troll to get some butthurt, or fun responses. Maybe i don't understand the fun, but you seem pretty lonely.
>>54078826
>>54079197
You need to study harder and learn more son. It might not be practical, or easily produced, and very expensive. But it is a measurable improvement.
>>54079405
>But it is a measurable improvement.
Now i understand why you tripfaggot love it so much.
Also, give me an independent source that tested these and said they were good.
>>54079530
Just google it, you worthless fuck.
>>54079604
>so butthurt that he removed his trip
top kek
>>54079634
I'm the anon that posted the escapement in the first place, not the namefag.
>keke I TROLL U
You got your (You) and then some. Congratulations.
But you also have an opportunity to learn something.
>>54063349
Damn I like that a lot, where can I cop it? Details please
>>54079741
It literally says the manufacture's name and model name on the dial.
>>54079530
Why would an independent, that wasn't involved in developping the escapement, would feel the need to use it in his own, hardly produced and more expesive, research and developpment????
Also, there are very few labs, like Christophe Claret's, that are properly equipped to test this constant force escapement, and very few watches made with it as well.
Oh, and btw, if you're talking out of your ass just because some line you've read at Hodinkee, wich is probably true, since you're repeating it like a brainless monkey, keep in mind Benajimin wrote that article like three years ago.
You're absolutely ridiculous in your effort for stating a valid proof of your argument, or in your poor quality bait for that matter.
The silicon blade does interact with the amplitude at wich the movement work's and keeps it constant, by adding a bit more force at the uncoiling phase in the mainspring inside the balance wheel.
Off yourself kid.
>>54079634
I would never do that. I'm not a coward like you.
>>54081441
Lawyeranon what are your thoughts/opinions on the penis quartz watches?
Is there any NATO variant with not so shinny buckles, but not black coated?
I just ordered a Seiko 5, pic related, and I would like something on the same case tone.
>>54081588
Brushed buckles should be really easy to find and matches decently.
Otherwise get bead blasted buckles.
What does /wt/ think of g shock, is it over rated, over sized trash?
>>54081813
They're going for fashion a lot. If you stay with the "normal" models, they're actually really solid and have good functionality.
>>54081832
What do you think about the g-shock m100 radio controlled series. Thinking about getting it of amazon uk
want want want
>>54081906
What model?
>>54081906
Reminds of OB explorer 2
Is that a lumed bezel?
>>54082251
Probably just the lume pip
>>54082123
809 Aut.
Does anyone know anything about the Miyota os10 movement? I just learned my Fossil watch has it.
>>54082721
http://www.citizen.co.jp/miyota_mvt/download/pdf/spec_0S10.pdf
http://www.citizen.co.jp/miyota_mvt/download/pdf/manu_0S10-0S1A_multi.pdf
>>54082777
I'd say it's a decent movement then,
>>54082852
It's by far the highest quality part of the watch, even if it's outdated and superseded by the OS-20 even in chinkshit $40 watches.
>>54082917
My watch is 10 years old, I just haven't used it for the past 8 years because I never got around to changing the battery. Changed the battery a week ago and the watch is working normally.
tfw everyone hate the 110
>>54083049
Probably the case style I like the most, but my wrists only allow 420 :^(
>>54083049
I love the 110
>>54083049
710 aka ministry case master race reporting in
>>54083213
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uO-Dz4GVFM
NEV4R 3GET
>>54083213
>>/mlp/
>>/a/
>>/toy/
>>54083207
ayyyy
Regulated Baltika barrel reporting in.
24 hours in and +5sec.
>>54083213
Shaking my head.
>>54083213
>>54083323
So basically they have taken a G-shock and frankensteined in fitness tracker band hardware.
Not necessarily the worst idea - there is probably a market for that feature set - but the implementation is clearly awful.
Kinda want.
>>54079530
that looks like a penis
>>54083588
>Alzheimers window
>crown that apparently screws ALL THE WAY into the case, pushers that don't screw down at all
>tritium tube sized and shaped markers/hands, no tritium
5/10
needs work.
>>54083782
Are you an idiot?
>>54083849
He's just trying really hard, don't worry about it.
>>54083880
Not gonna lie, I smiled at the filename.
Which Citizen Promaster colour is the best?
Can you help me choose guys?
I like all of them except for the yellow one.
>>54084912
blue
>>54084912
Yellow is objectively the best.
Just needs a different strap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li0mRLcGbU8
>antiques roadshow
>rolex gmt master
>'I paid $120 for this watch back in 1960'
>inflation adjusted to 2016 = $965.40
First watch
>>54060383
What does G think of the chinese tourbillon?
>>54085180
Not bad, I also have a chronograph but I don't have any use for it so it seems redundant
>>54084912
Sunburst blue dial for sure.
>>54060525
Thanks for the writeup, NineBall.
>>54085180
Are you the guy that was going to get a Fossil but was then given this Seiko as a recommendation instead?
>>54085203
It's a testament to the power of slave labor industry, intellectual property theft, and the triumph of the selfish meme.
>>54084912
Lume dial.
>>54085226
I just like the look of chronographs as they don't look too formal. This was the first blue dial I really liked.
>>54085268
Not that anon but the watch I was first gifted was a fossil funnily enough.
>>54083880
Ayy
I need to take more like these.
>>54083588
Is that a Daini 7016? These are incredibly hard to find in original, unmodified, un-Indian'ed condition, but if you can locate one then it's better than the more common 6139/6138. First of all, it's the only chronograph I can think of that has a stacked register and isn't made by Patek or Omega. Second, it has a flyback function. Third, failing to keep the chronograph running all the time will not eventually ruin the movement, unlike the 6139 and 6138 (the 7016 uses a clutch plate to engage and disengage the extra gears needed for the chronograph, while the 6138/6139 use a spring-loaded arrester to stop the hour recording wheel when the chronograph isn't running, and that spring has a 100% chance of fucking up).
>>54083782
>crown that apparently screws ALL THE WAY into the case
>screws
Aho ka?
had a customer come in wearing a patek philippe rose gold annual calendar. Beautiful watch
>>54084912
It's really a toss-up between black and blue. Assign one to heads and tails, flip a coin, if you're happy with the result, then get it.
>>54085564
>>54085284
>>54085254
>>54084985
>>54084984
Thanks guys, I think my choice will totally depend on the first bargain that pops out on eBay, would love to get one of these in a very decent condition for below 70€. I do love black and the blue one equally but if I found a good offer, I'd consider getting the full lumed dial one instead since that feature would be a novelty in my collection.
I'd kill for one with kanji date too.
http://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/shopping/rainbow08_i1d817ca4c1f9e675/category/1642
http://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/shopping/rainbow08_i153cc61397f9bfed/category/1642
Must be a damn special HMT
>>54085775
It is, looks like a true vintage piece, no frankenshit or anything.
>>54085775
>Must be a damn special HMT
Or it could just be a total rip off and he's been trying to sell it for ages.
>>54085688
>tfw when i didn't even know mine came with a Kanji date
>>54085775
Must be a genuine early one with a proper dial and a movement that's cleaner then the day it left the factory.
I also scrolled down and saw a couple of Vostok's that people were asking like 140$ for.Always knew that Japan has a thing for European watches, but not like that.
>>54085854
gimme yours Shlomo, 75€?
>>54085979
Not in a hurry to sell it.
Still need to see how well did i do on that 3133 chrono.
If i don't like it then i'd likely flip it along with the promaster for a SRP773.
>>54085509
>Is that a Daini 7016?
Not sure if it's Daini, but yeah - it's a 7016(-7000 to be exact, I think).
>These are incredibly hard to find in original, unmodified, un-Indian'ed condition
Oh... I don't actually think I'll pursue it unless I happen to run into it somewhere. I'm not hugely into chronographs overall and while a single subdial makes it better, who says I won't say it's still too much for me in a few weeks? I only first saw it today while looking around Bourne's Identity (in the movie he had a TAG in that bank, but apparently in the book there was something dressy, that he pawned for a Seiko chrono and some money).
>>54086159
It's a Daini bruh, you can see the lightning icon on the dial.
>>54086192
Yeah, I'm actually reading up on them as we speak.
>>54085854
Sorry to burst your bubble, Noah, but the date isn't Kanji on the Citizens. They're just Japanese numerals (the same as "Monday" being represented as "I" in Latin script, or "Thursday" being "IV"). Only Seiko does Kanji dates.
Kinda want
No one else has anything like it
>>54086289
for good reason
>>54086271
Huh, you're right on that one.
Still better then having French or German as a second language.
>>54081459
>penis quartz watches
Are you referring to affordable (cheap) quartz??
Some are really great, and have the added bonus of reliability. You can pretty much abuse them with out any trouble and are fun to collect. In fact, I recently acquire a new quartz wich I'm going to share with you anons in a few days.
Cheers.
>>54084912
Blue is love, blue is life.
>>54086715
He's talking seiko king quartz. People here see penises in everything.
>>54086289
I think I prefer it with the round case.
It looks less like a Diesel and more like an instrument panel.
>>54086812
*it also desperately needs a different strap.
>>54086289
Interesting idea, awful execution.
>>54086790
Thanks NineBalls, needed the clarification.
>>54081459
I honestly haven't had any personal experience with one of them, but the caliber is probably very good and apearance is nice at least.
>>54086812
I also prefer this version. With a distressed strap it would probably look atractive.
Btw i can't remember, for the life of me, what's this reference name and code. Could you share anon? Thx
>>54086951
That thing must weigh a pound. Are there any automatic watches that are lightweight?
Boo boo happened to the day disk
>>54086984
'lightweight' isn't a benchmark we can compare against. Home many grams?
Regardless, yes, there is probably many automatics you would consider to be light.
>>54086982
google search for seiko kinetic sportura limited turns up a number of versions.
Cant even find the round one on chrono24, pretty rare.
>>54087015
mm
I know you can quickset the day via pulling the crown on these 2628.H movements.
Wonder if you can do the same on the Day display.
Could learn to love this but im not exactly a fan of Honda
>>54086982
>what's this reference name and code
It's a Seiko Sportura Kinetic.
Reference number I believe is SBXZ001, as googling that turns up appropriate results.
>>54086984
>>54086790
Not necessarily King Quartz as my Seiko Quartz Type II has the penis logo too.
>>54087027
Lets say 40 grams. My G9x is 78 grams. No reason for a watch to be more than half that.
>>54060943
Found someone selling their halios for half of the original price...
>>54087259
>G9x is 78 grams
Did you hollow out the insides?
>>54087336
Gripless/no weights, removed weight tray, removed weight tray mount. By the way, that 78g is measured just a few moments ago and I didn't bother to try to subtract the cable weight, so it includes part of the cable weight.
>>54086790
To be honest, you kind of have to look hard NOT to see it. Doesn't matter though, that little tuning fork logo is a mark of quartz excellence.
>>54087220
Penis is love, Penis is life
I really have to get my King Quartz cleaned up at some point.
>>54087380
Well yeah. Piaget has an Altiplano at like 30grams. But there's so many watches new and vintage, it's not like I can give you a list.
>>54073161
I bought the same watch from a dollar store back in 2009, it still works, I was on 6 month trip across Europe and north-west Africa, never changed anything, 3-4 times swim with it in some nasty rivers and right now its somewhere with all the shit in the garage, but the last time I checked was 3-4 months ago, it worked fine, just few hours behind
>>54087163
>Reference number I believe is SBXZ001, as googling that turns up appropriate results.
Though SLQ001 also seems to be a model number for it.
Unclear, as many of the related postings are in Japanese and other languages I do not speak.
>>54086256
>>54086192
Seeing stuff like this, I always feel that Daini's solutions to the challenges of the day were always a lot more innovative and interesting than Suwa's, although for whatever reason they are not remembered as well.
>>54087751
Also the black cushion case is surprisingly inoffensive on the wrist, all things considered.
>>54087692
I'd probably wear this if someone bought it for me. How about something similar in weight but a little less pretentious?
>>54087946
How about some kind of polerouter?
>>54087946
Why don't you just do some googling.
>>54087946
Most people *like* the weight of a heavy mechanical watch on their wrist.
But if you really want something as light as possible, you'll find more options in hand-wind movements for the obvious reason that much of the weight of an automatic is in the big, heavy rotor.
>>54088135
I want somebody to spoon-feed me horology
>>54087779
I've been saying in these threads for some time that Daini was a better movement maker in the 1965-1975 period.
>>54088144
Good call. This guy is supposedly 48g, so still a bit heavy, but I like the style.
>>54088495
>so still a bit heavy
What the fuck am I reading
>>54088642
Maybe he's free-climbing Everest or something.
Just a quick question about Vostoks: I know Komandirskie cases are in brass, while Amphibias are still, but what about the bezels? Are they brass too?
>>54089487
F29W is 14 grams then
>>54089537
Maybe he's free-climbing Everest and wants a mechanical for whatever reason.
Or maybe he's just an idiot.
>>54089526
All regular bezels on the Dirskie and Amphibias are coated brass. SE models have SS bezels and aftermarket ones are SS too.
Though to corrode it so badly you'd need to torture it properly.
>>54089554
>JLC 101
>barely a gram
not an auto though...
Will it magnetise my watch to leave it near a wireless charger overnight each day?
My SKX is running an average of +8 sec at the moment so it doesn't seem to be affecting it but if there's a risk I'll stop leaving it there.
New thread:
>>54089743
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