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-- PLEASE USE THIS FORM TO GET PURCHASE ADVICE --
>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM

Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.
Isolation ≠ Noise cancellation

>For the newfags that keep replying to the "Belgian shitposter"
http://pastebin.com/WmqBnCAF

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

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>>53977540
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>>53988566
Continued:

>Speaker and Headphone Guides:
https://www.reddit.com/r/zeos

>Reviews:
https://www.youtube.com/user/ZeosReviews
https://www.youtube.com/user/InnerFidelity
https://www.youtube.com/user/dalethorn2/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/hifiguy528/

>Communities
https://www.reddit.com/r/zreviews
https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones
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Mugi top tier girl
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>>53988687
Mio > Yui > Mugi > Azunyan > Ritsu
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>>53988705
>Putting Ritsu so low on the list
You should be crucified
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>>53988725
bad taste
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>>53988731
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Is the TMA-2 Basic config (S01 - E01) good? I'm interested in these headphones and would like a flat sound profile.
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SONY MDR-V6, SONY 7506 OR AUDIO TECHNICA ATH-M40X
MAKING A DECISION IN AN HOUR
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how harsh does the MDR 7506 sound when it comes to lo-fi music?
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>>53989100
V6 and 7506 are the same thing, get whichever the fuck is cheapest between those
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>>53988566
Great job, OP. Last time you made a new thread fifteen or so posts before the bump limit. Now you've made a new thread nearly thirty posts before the bump limit (which the other thread still hasn't reached nearly an hour later). You even failed to post in that thread the new thread link.

At least you didn't forget the past thread link this time.
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>>53988566
>thread made before bump limit
>meme pastebin
Abort thread, it's just shitposting.
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>>53989594
Nah. Might as well just call the OP a retard and just use this thread created by a shit OP. I'm not interested in creating/perpetuating any sort of "race to the bottom" mentality in /hpg/. Just ignore the stupid shit in the OP and clarify it as stupid shit when the occasional newfag posts in confusion because of the stupid shit in the OP. Based upon how many people post without bothering to read either the form or the FAQ that seems the more sensible approach to a faggot OP.
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>>53989562
May as well ask again in here in case it's missed.
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>>53989100
Zeos suggests the M40x are better than the Sony. More comfortable, detachable cable, flatter response, better isolation, and over all more versatile.
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>>53989562
>Is that kind of response generated by the silicon ear which you have to compensate for or is the compensation in the microphone's compensation file?

It's the ear. My raw responses are with the resonances from the ear included. Ideally it should look close to industry standard measurement couplers but mine has a massive rise in 2.7-3.0 kHz. If I notch it out it looks fairly closely like raw responses on Headroom, Goldenears etc.

I need to do some testing with other headphones I have. If the resonance persists in the same place at the same scale I could bake a compensation for it to the REW sound card calibration file. I'm not knowledgeable enough to understand what exactly is causing it to be that large. Insertion depth of the mic in the ears has a very big effect on its position and amplitude but no matter how short or long canals I use it still remains way too large.

>I originally assumed when I got my setup ready and started measuring that I'd need seperate compensation for measurements like that but they all seem to reflect compensated curves already.
That's because yours is a flush mounted plate without a pinna or canal. My flush mounted measurements look(ed) similar to yours.

>Also if you don't mind could I see a distortion measurement as well?
Sure. This taken at a same, relatively low SPL as the measurement I posted.
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>>53990044
>still considers home measurements on shitty rigs to be of value.

Just stop it, you aren't the next tyll.
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>>53990079
What?
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>>53989100
MDR506 is durable as hell, you will never break it by accident and need new headphones, that's for sure.
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>>53990079
>What you are doing is not relevant to me, stop doing that.
Grow up.
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My multibit upgrade came in. Does it sound better? Fuck if I know. Doesn't sound worse.
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>>53990334
>he wasted his money
Top cuck
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>>53990040
>Zeos suggests..
Fuck off.
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>>53990388
b-b-but muh bits
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>>53990040
>Zeos suggests the M40x are better than the Sony.
Where is M40X Z Review video?
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>>53990442
Coming this weekend.
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>>53990334
>multibit upgrade
Explain.
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>>53990434
These ones and zeros sound so much different!
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>>53990500
>>53990492
Schiit now offers a upgrade for the bifrost dac. It changes it from a standard sigma-delta 1 bit dac, to a 16 bit r2r dac. This link helps explain it further: http://www.mother-of-tone.com/conversion.htm
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>>53990630
>helps explain placebo
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1 month ago I asked here for my first pair of good headphones and bought the AKG K-550. Now after listening the first time to music with them I am really blown away how good it sounds (best music experience outside of concert I had) - now my question: Is it worth to buy a High Quality Music Player (Portable) / what can your recommend ? Which Format do you guys use to store your music ? What else can you tell a person new to it all ? (please keep in mind I'm from Germany for purchase recommendations)
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>>53990630
a lot of d-s converters aren't 1-bit anymore..
http://www.realhd-audio.com/?p=74
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>>53990044
>This taken at a same, relatively low SPL as the measurement I posted.
Do you reckon you could get it measured at around 100dB SPL on the headphones? I think taking them to an extreme is quite valuable information as well.
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>>53988566
>Budget
~$100
>Location
USA
>Source
Online preferred
>Preferred type of headphone
something not too edgy looking, goes around my head
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
somewhat comfy, smaller
>Tonal Balance
to the base
>Preferred music
punky, something with a good beat
>Past headphones
muh gaymin Logitech G430
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>>53991043
Funny you say that and happy to hear. The k550 are some of the most distorted headphones by AKG. A music player will not help but for your enjoyment it will. I use flac and 320kbps files but that's because I have some pretty high end headphones. I sorta feel sorry you didn't get something else.
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>>53991183
Superlux 686b
If you have large ears you may need to replace the pads.
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>>53991229
>I use flac and 320kbps files but that's because I have some pretty high end headphones
you're retarded.
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>>53991259
>Superlux 686b
668b*
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>>53991272
At least I didn't buy k550s
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>>53988566
>Budget
£30
>Location
UK
>Source
Sansa clip +
>Preferred type of headphone
earbuds
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
prefer them to not fall out
>Preferred music
varies each month
>Past headphones
none
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>>53991043
>what can your recommend ?
Cowon Plenue D.
>Which Format do you guys use to store your music ?
Mostly .flac files for storage. Convert to Ogg/Opus files for use on a portable.

>What else can you tell a person new to it all ?
Audio is like a chain. It is only as good as its weakest link. Also it can get expensive and isn't based upon any objective standards. Take any advice given with a grain of salt.
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>>53991287
nor did i, you're just retarded to think 'high end headphones' """justify""" flac or 320kbps (CBR is absolute garbage fyi)
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is Superlux HD668 seriously the best stuff for cheap? Especially to get from chicks for 23 bucks shipped.
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>>53991259
thank you famille
me being a stupid entry-level casual I am,
got any other suggestions to consider?
I'm just curious is all (:
btw i dont NEED it cheap, would prefer a better quality
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>>53991363
>Audio is like a chain. It is only as good as its weakest link.
When parts of this "chain" have effect in different domains and of orders of magnitude different level, how on earth would you determine a "weakest link" in any system?
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>>53991229
kek, that's stupid.
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>>53991407
it's always, without a doubt, your hearing.
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>>53991367
>>53991412
Babbys with no allowance from mommy can't afford to buy headphones that tell the difference between flac and shit files.
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>>53991407
How do you isolate any issue with multiple parts? You ABX with other parts.

But that's kind of besides the point I was trying to make. If the recording is poorly mastered or transcoded from lossy to lossy you're going to need better tracks. If the source is underpowered you're going to need an amp. Etc.
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>>53991472
>being this much of a delusional retard
go back to reviewing shit for 6moons or show consistent abx results showing you can identify the differences
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>>53991229
>The k550 are some of the most distorted headphones by AKG.
So you rely on your funny graphs? I bet you have never heard them.
The K550 are pretty damn good for the price I got them (130 Euros). For the current price though, I wouldn't buy them.
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>>53991502
>he doesn't rely purely on objective data
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>>53991527
I prefer actually listening to headphones before shitting on them.
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>>53991527
Measurements are at best a reference point. Between different methodologies, different focuses, different equipment, and different standards they are just as subjective as one's personal experiences.
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>>53991527
>says he relies on objective data
>thinks he can hear the difference between flac and transparent mp3
>is probably a poorfag boasting about $300 headphones
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>>53991043
To answer your question, get some kind of Sansa Clip iteration. They are good and cheap.
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>>53991502
>graphs are silly
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Graphs don't tell the whole story when it comes to sound.
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>>53991689
This is why I watch zeos reviews. He knows what's up.
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>>53991707
Please stop
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>>53991707
Speaking of that guy, are these Pioneers really all that. The way they're described seemed pretty close to what I'm looking for. I'm struggling to even find any sellers though
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>>53992219
Yes. Warm and lovely. Just braid the cable and swap the pads.
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>>53989100
M40x!
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>>53992429
Kind of late
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>>53992256
Why is it that every time I look up some cheapo supposedly great headphones, they're actually going for three times as much. They're like 160 on Amazon
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>>53992452
oh...yeah...well what'd you end up getting?
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>>53989100

Doesn't really matter anymore, but I have V6 and they're really sharp, it was very uncomfortable when I first got them. Probably need to EQ it down, I kinda just forgot about it and have gotten used to the sibilance a bit. Plus after two years the coating on the pads has just totally peeled off, I keep finding small slivers of black plastic on my ears when I take them off
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>>53992490
replace the pads?
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>>53992478
It's the zeos effect. Zeos is great at finding gems and has a great enough influence to increase demand thus we see rising prices.
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>>53992549
Meant for >>53992456
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>>53992509
Yeah I've read people recommending some nice velour pads for them, never got around to that either. But I'll definitely recommend that too

Oh yeah and one side has stopped working for whatever reason, these are supposedly very durable so I don't know what I've done to them for that to happen. Need to find someone who could fix them, I just have no equipment for that kind of stuff and last time I soldered anything was probably fifteen years ago
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>>53992549
Kinda silly really, this one guy says that these are now the best ones in the world and a legion of followers rush out to buy them without hesitation
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>>53992631
Not so silly considering how right he is.
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>>53992648
Well, if the selling point is that these are great for sixty dollars, that kinda goes out the window if they're now a hundred and sixty dollars
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>>53992716
That's Tx0RP Mk3 money.
Of course, you'd still have to add nicer pads and possibly additional modding supplies, but still.

Hell, it's K612 money where I live. Went with modded T20RP Mk3s though, because apparently I like falling for memes.
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>>53988566

who makes these images? the mdr 7506 are weebphones?
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>decide to check out the lossless flac meme
>acquire music in flac
>A/B it with same track on youtube

>>holy fuck flac actually does sound better
>do some more A/Bing
>every single song sounds better in flac


Then I realized that my flac music player was playing slightly louder than my mp3 player

adjusted the volume

sounds literally the fucking same
there's no fucking difference
at all

any perceived differences are just slight volume discrepancies, in my case it was like 1db difference
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Looking for a pair of headphones for my new piano. Thinking porta pro just doesn't do it justice.

>Budget
preferably 100-200 ish, can go higher if there's like some really swizz cheese deal.

>Location
Denmark.

>Source
Piano / Laptop / Phone. I am buying these for the piano.

>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear.

>Open or closed
Open preferred.

>Comfort level
Really comfortable, LIGHTWEIGHT is really important, it must feel nice, not fall off while playing piano, should just feel invisible like porta pro ish.

>Preferred tonal balance
like allrounded I guess, mostly middish, piano's are kinda everywhere.

>Preferred music
Classical / ES Posthumus / piano shizz / Granddad etc.

>Past headphones
1. ddt 880 600 ohm (woops) Beyerdynamic, (They're great! but RIP piano and phone can't drive them. They're also kind of heavy.
2. Porta pro's, great for things on the move, but sound quality is meh.
3. plebphones.
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>>53993026
>RIP piano
Are you planning on getting a new one? If not, why not get an amp to drive your 880s?
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>>53993026

HD598SE if they are still on sale, or the AKG k550
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Split ass
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>getting an M40x in Canada
>2016
Unless you can find one for less than $100, forget it, man. I jumped on this train 2 years ago.
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>>53993005
You have to double blind the test and always convert the lossy file from the lossless one yourself. There are too many variables at play if you don't. Also use a proper encoder. There can be differences and there are if you use insufficient bitrate or an old encoder. Foobar has a good addon to ABX test once you have the two files.
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>>53993063
Already have an amp for my 880's but it's a creative Soundcard, aka stuck in my pc.
Also I use my pc a lot, and prefer not switching the headphones out every time.
Thirdly, they're are kind of heavy. I would like something lighter for my piano.
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>>53993164
K702 maybe? They're light as feather. Also the HD600 or the HD598 if the 600 costs too much

The K702 has a more brighter sound while the senns are a bit veiled in comparison
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>>53993192
Isn't the K702 kinda hard to drive?
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>Budget: $6 CAD

>Location: Canada Eh?

>Style: Earphones/Earbuds

>Want something that cancels noise, or has noise isolation

>Preferably on Amazon.ca
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>>53993234
Yea but an e10k can drive them no sweat and it's not a particularly powerful amp. It's powerful but not compared to an O2
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>>53993234
>>53993250
It says 62 ohm on their website. So I guess that shouldn't be too much? I would rather not have to buy an amp. They're kind of expensive, can break, more cords etc.
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>>53993237
GUYS I NEED HELP. I WANT A DECENT PAIR OF HEADPHONES, BUT I ONLY GOT 6 DOLLARS CAUSE I'M A POOR FAG.
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>>53993350
Save up for some Piston 3s or some Apple Earpods. At 6 bucks you're not gonna find anything good.
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>>53993336
They're extremely inefficient. The 250 ohm version of the 990 are easier to drive but I don't know how it compares to the 600ohm version of the 880
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>>53993350
Save your money. You're not getting anything good there at that price, Canadian.
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>>53993192
Like the detachable cable, the pads and the weight though. Good reviews and shit. Nice suggestion.
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I want to get the xiaomi piston 3s, but I don't know where to get them. This site is the cheapest but it looks kinda sketchy to me:

http://www.gearbest.com/earbud-headphones/pp_169225.html

Has anyone bought them from here? Is it legit?
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>>53993368
Inefficient? I thought the impedance ratings were just math. Like if we compare a 32 with a 64, the 64 should need twice the amount to play at the same lvl. Then again if the standard is 8 ohm, 64 would be quite an increase. I don't even the fuck what. Research time.
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>>53993378
Back to using my Beats Solo 2 again then I guess. FeelsGoodMan
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>>53993432
Impedance doesn't mean _that_ much, sensitivity tells you how much power it needs to reach a certain volume.
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>>53993432
Unfortunately it's not that simple. I don't know the details either. The K612 120ohm, on the e10k, requires 4/5 out of 8 on the knob. Meanwhile the DT990 250ohm only requires about 2. This on low gain both.
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>>53993026
SHP9500, great highs and midrange. Exceptionally natural for piano.
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>>53993504
SHP9500 seems interesting, second time today I see someone recommend them, having a hard time actually finding someone selling them. Read a couple of threads, people are blown away saying it owns hd600 etc. Seems kinda unrealistic. Especially for the much lower price.
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>>53993631
>people are blown away saying it owns hd600 etc
It's because of Zeos
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>>53993631
It's realistic alright, i own both and i put up my HD600 for sale on ebay.


if anyone is interested in buying my HD600s please tell me. good condition.
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>>53993631
They're good but not that good, it did make me sell my k612s. bought some shure iems with the money
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>>53993660
Do they require the modding though? To sound great that is.
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>>53993857
EQ if you don't like the highs.
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How do you guys deal with the long cords and tangle prone cords of the SONY MDR-V6?

I like the cords at home when I can move about on my chair. In public, its very unwieldy.
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>>53993398
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Xiaomi-Piston-3-Earphone-with-Mic-Remote-Headphones-Headset-for-Xiaomi-Mobile-Phone-ear-Headphones/32503356209.html

I bough from this gook, mine were legit.
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>>53993888
I wouldn't carry them in public, rather just get something else for that. Even if you somehow lump the cord together so that it doesn't get in the way, it's just this big heavy pile of cord that will be annoying. At home they're very convenient yeah
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>>53993920
I know but i cant make a new earbud purchase so im stuck with these if I want to listen in public.....

God damn..
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>guys holy shit this is the best thing ever
>[a few days later]
>guys wow now THIS really is the best
>[a few days later]
>all right I know I say this too often but these headphones really are the best
>[a few days later]
>woah these headphones are even better
>TOO BAD THE CABLE IS FUCKING RETARDED

Z in a nutshell
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>>53994020
didn't read all i saw was the Z in a nutshell. Just curious to know why you care.
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>>53988687
Yui all the way familia
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>>53994065
because a good review should detail the goods and the bad along with their own personal opinion while largely remaining unbiased as a whole. This gives an idea of what the product will be like and will aid in whether or not this product should be bought or if it's the right one for you.

If every video review is just "these are the best things I've listened to please buy it" then it doesn't really make for a great review. Not only that, but the reviewer may wind up getting people to buy ultimately shitty products because they'll be under the expectation that this product is good because a reviewer said so, which is never a good thing.
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I imagine /hpg/ will shit all over my very standard M50x's, but I just got back from a three day road trip and they made the drive for me. I really can't say I need anything else, aside from my workout earbuds.
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>>53995495
Yawwnnnn thanks for the (You)


>>53995518
Is dat sum D-Brand?
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>>53995701
Yeah, the skin came in last week. I really like how it turned out. I have a similar black carbon wrap on my laptop. For the $8 or so it cost, totally worth it.
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>>53995764
I thought it was more expensive than 8 dollars. looks slickkk my man.
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>>53990630

>implying it makes an audible difference

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/48dhsq/well_after_two_years_of_interest_in_this_hobby/d0lg9fo

Reminder that Moffat is an idiot who does not understand the auditory mechanism and makes up facts to hide that.
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When is Audio Technica releasing new headphones brehs?
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>>53996110
breh they have. what chu want senpai?
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>>53995495
To be fair, he does go over some stuff a bit, even if it's kinda superfluous. And not very technical at all
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>Budget
$100 flexable
>Location
United States
>Source
Computer
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
yes

>Preferred music
classical
>Past headphones
logitech g430
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>>53992841
There's a ton circulating around for all headphone brands.
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>>53996385
> >Comfort level
>Yes

w e w l a d
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>>53996385
Let me tell you buddy, the NVX XPT100 are some of the comfiest closed cans you will buy. Another gem i will recommend are the Status Audio CB-1 which may be the new budget monitor KINGS. ~Z.
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>mfw i use cheap amazonbasics headphones
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>>53997026
good for you for not succumbing to peer pressure
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>>53997026
those are actually pretty great, i briefly tested them at a Philly audio meet up. ~Z
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How much better is the HiFiMan HE400s over the 400i?

All I know is the 400s has bass problems
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>>53997055
>audio meet up
>leaves a Z after post
When did you find out you have autism?
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>>53997164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zVXePV1GyA

tl;dw 400s are just super bassy while 400i are very neutral. Do you want bass anon?
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>>53997187
>400s super bassy
That's bullshit and you know it, anon. That's what I would say if you didn't link a review and make yourself look like you have no idea what you're talking about so you link a review instead to back yourself up.
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>>53997223
They just don't have that instant WOW factor the 400S have.
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>>53993107
As usual, hey M40x bro. I got some Brainwavz pads on these, and now I don't even use the X2's. Probably going to sell them. Before the new pads, I liked how the M40x sounded but wanted just a little more bass impact and comfort, and now I love how they sound and feel now with new pads.
A friend of mine let me demo some VMODA LP2's today. The bass seemed to overpower everything else, and there was no detail or clarity in the mids or highs. Maybe I didn't listen enough to get a good impression of their sound.
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>>53997280
>They just don't have that instant WOW factor the 400S have.

Are you serious right now?

The bass response between the 400s and the 400i is nearly identical, the only difference between them being the fact that the sub bass in the 400s rolls off past 50Hz.

If a rolled off bass in the 400s compared to the deeper response in the 400i is considered a WOW factor for you then I honestly have no idea what the hell you're smoking.
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>>53997305
400S with the HM5 pad mod fixes the bass problem.
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>>53997315
while the 400i doesn't require a mod to have the same bass response, your point?
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>>53997329
My point is that the 400S are cheaper even with the 20 dollar pads you have to buy and the bass has much more slam than the linear extension the 400i have. If you get the 400s you HAVE to do the mod.
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Best closed bassy cans for around 100$?
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>>53997338
How the fuck does something more rolled off have more 'slam'?
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>>53997338
>rolled off bass
>has more slam

????????
doing the mod won't magically solve the rolled off bass
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>>53997346
Do you read you imbecile? I said with the new pads. The pads make the difference.

>>53997339
Creative Aurvana Live 2 my friend. - Z
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>>53997355
Have you seen moded T50RP Mk3s? With a little padding these become bass monsters. Just look at the alpha dogs and alpha primes. Educate yourself before you post.
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>>53997359
Even with the pads it's still more rolled off than the 400i you stupid fuck. Don't get cheeky when you're incapable of reading a frequency response graph.
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>>53997378
oh wow an unlabeled graph from an incredulous source. Graphs are for people without ears.
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>>53997359
all the pads do is make it easier for you to hear the shitty frequencies past 50Hz in 400s.

I could very easily say the bass becomes better in the 400i if I bought the same pads, your argument that the 400s is better in the bass dept than the 400i is confusing because you're trying so hard to make your objectively wrong argument correct.
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>>53997389
Your hearing must be fucked if you think the 400S with hybrid pads have more 'slam' than the 400i.

Or, more likely, you haven't heard either and you're just shitposting with your welfare Tascams on.
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You fucks are arguing against a person who first linked a Z Review to validate his claim that a 400s is better than a 400i while also saying in the very same post that the 400s has more bass than the 400i without the implications of a mod.

Is there still even a point to this argument? He's clearly gonna keep going until he hears someone say "aww man you're clearly right, fuck man I've lost and you're correct"
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>>53997414
We need more people reporting Zeosposting.
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so I take it that the 400i is better than the 400s, thanks guys
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>>53997402
oh trust me, i've reviewed both cans. Unless you get the 400i on those crazy sales i would never recommend those over modded 400S. Sounds like you haven't tried either.

>>53997396
50hz - 250hz are the fun slam frequencies. Anything below that is there for texture.

>>53997453
Well i guess you're wasting your money.
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>>53997459
>cans
>talking out your ass this much
holy shit stick your tascams, poorfag.
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>>53997459
>50hz - 250hz are the fun slam frequencies. Anything below that is there for texture.

I can't believe you seemingly review headphones yet you typed this out, read it, and said to yourself "yeah this is fine"
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>>53997464
Okay my man
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>>53997459
the 400i and the 400s literally has a near identical bass signature with the exception that the 400s has rolled off bass. Someone else before has said the exact same thing.

Why then do you type "50hz - 250hz are the fun slam frequencies." in reference to the 400s as if you're trying to make it seem better than the 400i when they both share the nearly same bass signature?

You're making circles in your logic. The 400i is better in the bass dept than the 400s. The pads aren't going to make the 400s magically phenomenally better when in the higher frequencies the 400s fails to reach up to the same level of detail the 400i offers.
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>>53997510
did you not feel any sort of remorse writing 'zeos' and realizing you're just some sad faggot pretending to be a bigger faggot on 4chan?
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>Before bump limit
>shitposting meme pastebin
>reddit links in the first post

fuck you, this thread is awful, waiting for someone to make the next one
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>>53993128
>>53993005
He's clearly baiting to ruin the thread even further.

He's implying that youtube bitrate files are just as good as flac with their audible distortion and artifacts.

Ignore the bait friend.
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>>53997510
Children in Africa could've eaten those.
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>>53997657
Not even children in Africa could stomach that uneven treble.
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>>53995518
so much meme
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>>53995518
>all that acoustic foam for little shitbox speakers that will sound bad no matter what
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>>53997736
At least they aren't headphones.
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>>53997759
they may as well be, the drivers are almost headphone sized and you're better off just playing sound from your headphones on your desk like speakers.
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http://www.head-case.org/forums/topic/12571-sejsel-spews-about-k701s-and-his-opinions/

Looks like our resident AKG shill is taking to other places to shitpost now that he's basically been shoo'd out of here bar the meme pastebins he keeps posting.
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>>53997792
Going on headcase. You could do better anon. How about you join us over at /zreviews and /headphones? Headcase is even worse than SBAF.
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>>53997815
>How about you join us over at /zreviews and /headphones?
How about you go back there and don't come here anymore.
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>>53997823
>How about you go back there and don't come here anymore.
Pretty much this.

These threads could do without reddit fawning over their favourite youtube reviewer and his bullshit videos.
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>>53997301
Salutations. I'm happy you're enjoying your headphones.
I agree the comfort of the M40x could be better, but I'm not so interested in changing from stock. The bass is fine for me and I wouldn't want any more. Well, maybe a bit less.
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are tube amps ever worth it? I have a 300 ohm headphone and tempted to buy the vali 2 or valhalla 2
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>>53998134
Depends what you want.

If you want distortion and unnecessary frequency EQ go for it.

If you want to EQ yourself, or listen to your headphones without colouring the sound with tubes, then go solid state.
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>>53997815
>join us over at autism central where I samefag all my threads just like here

No thanks shitposter
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Hey Zeos, if you're still posting. What happened to the RHA MA750s? You got a pair back in November. Then you do an IEM comparison in January that did not include the RHA.
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>>53998319
>inb4 samefag reply to self pretending to be Zeos
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>Budget
500 kangaroos
>Location
Australia
>Source
Probably Magni 2/O2
>Preferred type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
8+/10, I don't mind clamp if it looses up.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
>imblying

Been reading up on some stuff and am interested in the HD600/650s.
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>>53998346
It might have been more interesting if you pretended to be Zeos. Though you might be scrambling for youtube clips and reddit posts to answer questions you wouldn't be prepared for to pull it off.
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>>53998418
i'd just have to make up some shitty contrarian opinion and recommend some terrible headphones. it's not hard to pretend to be zeos.
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>>53998418
He is a terribly uninteresting character with no technical knowledge or insight. How he gets that reputation leeching off the work of noaudiophile, I'll never know.
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>>53998474
The way I see it. Everyone is free to come here and sperge out and be just as retarded as everyone else in /hpg/.
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>>53988566
Mugi's butt must be the softest thing in the universe.
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What's /hpg/ opinion on bone conduction headphones is it worth it? And what model is best?
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>>53998514

But the Zeos posting has very clearly diminished the quality of discussion on /hpg/. Now it is one extremely committed Zeos shitposter (possibly the same person as the subjectivist troll in the last few threads) and everyone else either being butthurt or joining in.
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>>53998599
>But the Zeos posting has very clearly diminished the quality of discussion on /hpg/.
Just like the "belgian shitposter?" As if it doesn't take the actions of at least two shitposters, the "belgian shitposter" and the OP to "clearly diminish the quality of discussion in /hpg/?

And exactly how sterling is the "quality" of discussion on /hpg/? My experience is that it is pretty low to begin with and cannot get much worse. As soon as any rational disagreement is presented it is followed by post after post of "autist" and "prove it" and "stop shitposting" etc.

I just don't see it going down much if it all.
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>>53998392
hd600 dt880 he-400s k712
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>>53998392
forgot to mention, use shopbot, myshopping, and staticice to find the best price for shit in aus, great websites.
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>>53998559
I have a feeling its only as soft as your monitor screen or a sheet of paper
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>>53997641
YouTube codec is Opus at bitrates which achieve transparency in a lot of situations. Problem is that they always re-encode the audio from another lossy format which you are forced to use while uploading something there. I think they also lower the volume of the audio by some.
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my fidelio x2s arrived.

i feel like i need a dac to go with this amp. i have a fiio e11k.

do you guys think it would make a huge difference?
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>>53998968
there's nothing a dac or amp will do to fix the shitty x2
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>>53998981
i like how they sound though. they're amazing. a huge upgrade to my 518s
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>>53998989
the answer is still the same.
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>>53998989
If you liked the sound of sennheiser, why not go HD600 or HD650 if you already have an amp.

I like the modi for sub $200 dacs.
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>>53999005
I couldn't afford a 600 or a 650
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>>53999029
worth saving up for, enjoy your x2's though.
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>>53999124
thanks
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welp

my JBL LSR 305s just arrived and I set them up


goodbye /hpg/, I'm a speaker person now
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>>53993234
Not at all. I usually don't turn the knob of E10K beyond 2-3 in order to get a loud volume. K702 can sound good even out of the headphone jack of your standard pc/laptop, moreover K702 have a flat impedance/phase curve, unlike HD598 and other Sennheiser open models.
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>>53999415
I feel you, my HD650 get a whole lot less use now that I got JBL 305's
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>>53999526
>>53999415
Aaand... That's why K702/Q701/K7XX and DT880 600 ohm are the most expensive open headphones one should have, since everything more expensive than those two can't compete with speakers of the same price. And a pair of JBl lsr305 + a good sub basically throw every headphone out off the window.
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>>53999415
>>53999526
>>53999561
Shill harder samefag, or at least I hope you are.
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>>53999586
honestly not. I'm this one >>53999526
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>>53999561
DT990 + LSR305 masterrace
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>>53999586
> samefag

>>53999592
> DT990
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I need a headphone pls help.

Full head but still mobile enough
closed cans
Should have good sound blocking(gonna listen it in bus/metro)
Good quality/price ratio
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>>53999682
ATH M40X
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Hey senpai, I'm looking for an amp to boost my X2s. Any recommendations? Budget : 100 yoyos, located in Ireland
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>>53999702
I completely agree with this anon, but take my 2 cents on the M40X.

The earpads sit ON the ear, rather than around them, this is a massive turn off for me, I find it insanely uncomfortable.

Sound quality is actually really good considering the price.

Oh, and the stock earpads feel like waxed cardboard.
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>>53995518
Someone is selling his old M50. So old that all of the Pleather fabric is scraping out...
I want to buy it somehow. Good thing there's a person I know who's good at modding old headphones.
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>>53999816
X2 don't need an amp. Check your hearing if you feel like X2 isn't loud enough.
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>>53999909
thanks, gonna do that!
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Any idea what the Master, Headphone and PCM levels (0-100) should be on a relatively shitty (Inspiron 1545, IDT HD Audio) soundcard to prevent distortion?
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>>53998559
I'm more interested in what her feet taste like
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Can someone teach me the difference between impedance and headphone sensitivity? Why do I find impedance to make barely any difference?

For instance the dt990 250ohm is much easier to drive than the K702 62ohm. How do I know the sensitivity of a headphone and how do I know if an amp is capable of powering said headphone?
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My HD600 can already reach higher than listenable volumes out of my mobo, is getting an amp/dac worth it ?
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>>53999702
I decided to buy ATH M50X. Thanks anyway :3
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>>53991389
Not really for your price range.
Also don't let the price fool you, those things are an anomaly and BTFO of alot in the 1-300 range.

Also should note they're open but unless you really can't have noise-bleed, you should always go with open.
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>>54001185
No. You already fucked up the moment you decided to take a HD600 anyways.
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>>54001388
MSR7 >>>>>>>>>> Earpods > M50X.
:^)
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>>54001430
What should he have taken?
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>>54001651
For that price a pair of monitor speakers would have been much much much better.
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>>54001667
> listening to speakers living in a flat at night

Dude.
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>>54001185
Even my smartphone can get 300ohm headphones loud enough, the problem is that the sound may end up entirely lacking substance.
HD600's for instance are only 300ohm from about 600hz up, but peak at 550ohm at 100hz, which means that if you lack the voltage to drive them properly, the bass will sound weak.
This shouldn't be a problem with any proper discreet amp, but the shit integrated into the average consumer electronics device might not cut it.
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>>54001673
Ignore them, the JBL LSR 305 shill task force has been up in arms for a while now and are shitting up the /hpg/ threads.

This is a headphone general thread, don't even mention speakers you nig nogs, nobody cares.
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>>54001731
Nothing against the 305. They're amazing, sure, but this shilling is giving them a bad name
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>>54001673
Unless you love listening to music at insane volume, closing the door of your room is mostly sufficient to block sound coming from small speakers.

>>54001731
Do you muricans ignore the existence of different brands? You know, JBL isn't the only one making monitor/flat stuff....
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>>54001780
give me an objectively better speaker than the 305 at the same price or slightly more expensive
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>>54001808
Yamaha HS5
Tannoy Reveal 502
Not better, but they're equally good. There are many other brands that produce really good stuff.
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>>54001780
Not American, the popular speaker brands where I live are Focal and Genelec.
I guess the main reason these fags like the JBLs is for the clenched-asshole look.
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>>54001689
That makes sense, I thought it was 300ohm flat. Thanks for explaining. Will grab a schiit stack and see what it can get out of them then.
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Redpill me the comfiest (open) headphones that aren't earwarmers in this warm weather.
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>>54001925
JBL lsr305
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>>54001941
>speakers
never again
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>>54001925
Hd598 for sure. If you want more fidelity, get the hd600 or hd650
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>>54001844
Hs5 sounds like a farting anus
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>>54001185
The hd600 wod benefit greatly from an external DAC and amp
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>>54002038
Zeos says AD1000x are clearer and more comfortable than HD600. Less clamp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU-VaMytd2k
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>>54002057
At least they're not made in China :)
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>>54002070
Why?
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>>54001185
No if you get the volume you need and don't run into any problems with distortion or hiss/noises.

>>54002070
No.
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>>54001689
>but peak at 550ohm at 100hz, which means that if you lack the voltage to drive them properly
No that part is the easiest point for your amplifier to power.
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>>54002161
Less distortion, no interference from PC, more power to headphones, cleaner signal, better sound quality, more snake oil, etc.

I like products from schiit personally, us made and sound sexual
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>>54002224
>Less distortion
Not exclusive to discrete solutions. Distortion on the amplifier side is related to the power draw on the load side. HD 600 thanks to its high impedance draws fairly small amounts of power meaning less distortion on your amplifier, on-board or discrete.

>no interference from PC
Not a thing in every setup and easily detectable if it is.

>more power to headphones
Doesn't matter if he gets the wanted volume without audible distortion.

>cleaner signal
Yes if we compare on-board into something high quality like Magni or O2. Audibly different? Highly unlikely if the criteria here >>54002180 are met.

>better sound quality
See above.

>more snake oil
Not really. Good discrete solutions are much better performing than the best on-boards. However this does not mean it yields any kind of audible benefit assuming there are no glaring problems with the on-board.
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>>54001185
>is getting an amp/dac worth it ?
Nope. Find out on your own. You're stepping into snake oil territory. You don't need a external amp/dac. You can just use EQ to fix the rolled-off sub bass on shitty sources you use.
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>>54001951
Speakers have always been better than headphones.
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>>54001430
He could have gotten the SHP9500 instead.
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>>54001185
Yeas, you need one but if you get the T50RP Mk3.
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>>54002651
better at getting noise complaints from roommates and neighbors
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wow the my personal AD1000x got Z's blessing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU-VaMytd2k

I'm getting them back in the mail this afternoon.
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>>54002701
>roommates

I love when neets call their parents roommates.
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>>54002668
>>54002682
Thanks Zeos.
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>>54002717
why does the video have an ad2000x as the picture? The Ad1000x is hella ugly looking, the cables up top are higher, much thicker.
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>>54002751
No problem!
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>>54002744
please dude. You've never had the po arrive at your door telling you to turn down your music at 1230am on a saturday, have you? Never. Again.
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>>53995518
Do you have that headband cover on yours? Is it comfy? I was looking at picking one up.
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