Hello /g/ents. I think I'd like to pursue a career as a game technician, ie arcade games, slot machines and such. I've never done any technical schooling or college and I just have a GED, but I have a lot of hands on knowledge of PC's. I've always wanted to tinker in arcade games ever since my first job at a kid's arcade years ago. Currently work in a casino so I figure it's a way to move up. Any advice on what kind of classes I should get into like CET or basic electronic engineering? Pic semi related I guess.
>>53905603
Get your CDL and drive a truck. It's in high demand and can pay very well when you work overtime. You'll never find a job as an arcade mechanic.
>>53905706
I live in a town that has 9 or 10 casinos. Slot tech is possible. And there's a resort opening up soon that will have hundreds of arcade games. Though I appreciate your salty advice regardless.
>>53905603
>Pic
How about you not pay the fucking minimum balance for 23 years you fucking shithead. 23 grand of debt for what? Did you get your secretary license and make minimum wage anyways? 26k for a stem field is like 4 years of fucking debt dude. Who the fuck takes 23 years to pay 26-32k. That's a little over a grand a year.
>>53905814
Even at minimum wage that debt is easily dealt with... If you're not a retard paying less than the interest that accrues.
>>53905603
Do you really get no SS if you have student loan debt?
>>53905802
So you already work in a casino, presumably around techs that fix the machines? Have you tried asking them?
If it's anything like the dudes I remember as a kid who went around fixing claw games and candy machines, you'll be paid shit and hate your life since most places take a "Oh it's too broken? Just toss it out and buy a new one" approach.
>>53905814
IIRC this was calculated before and found that the $32.7k she has paid doesn't even match the rate of inflation for a $26.4k loan over 23 years. Basically, she loaned the money, and still hasn't even paid back the principal.
>>53905856
Well you can't even live on minimum but I still agree. This cunt was paying less than 120 a month for 23 years like a fucking idiot and wants to bitch why she couldn't pay off her 26k private school loan.
>>53905603
I wouldn't call the minimum payment "loyal". If you borrow money, you are obligated to pay it back at the interest rate you agreed to. She obviously didn't get a stem degree or business degree for that matter.
>>53905898
Bruh, Any one with half a brain can see how utterly fucked up that situation is.
Interest is one thing, sure, but lets get real, if you've paid back 32 grand, which is more than you even borrowed in the first place, it should be even.
Student loans are one of the biggest most impressive fucking scams of this century.
If you disagree you are literally sucking jew cock
>>53905881
The answer is usually something like "dude just go to college". Thing is I really want to avoid a college if I can, I would much prefer to get certs or something similar. I got a real bad association with school, which sounds really autistic and I completely agree.
>>53905814
>>53905856
>>53905896
>>53905898
>>53905928
School debt is also another thing that deters me. I really can't afford to be paying back student loans at high interests, then most likely not even get hired for the field I went to school for.
>>53905928
>>53905898
>>53905896
>>53905872
>>53905814
Um, like, really? There are 1%ers that spend that much on lunch daily, there is LITERALLY no reason that woman should have to pay back her loans. It's like, totally a form of modern slavery. College is a Right!
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>>53905976
>>53905971
It's not terrible if you get recurring scholarships and financial aid. My loan was slightly less than hers aka less than 1 semester at full tuition.
After 2 years of shit jobs at $0/mo, I seriously considered taking out a small 6.8% loan before getting on a payment plan. Now I'm looking at a 3 year plan. Some heavily taxed things like mature savings bonds are tax exempt for student loans.
/blog
>>53905976
>College is a Right!
I know it's bait but I agree. I think everyone should be able to study their field of passion for several years without it being considered a gamble or investment, just for personal enrichment.
>>53906251
>taking out
that is, sniping out, paying in full
>>53905603
>living in a country without free higher education
>>53905965
Spot the knob who doesn't understand credit and debt. Interest doesn't disappear asshole. Learn to life.
It's called being a responsible person and paying your fucking debt. I pay that back in a year in income tax for fuck sake.
>>53906383
Spot the guy with jew cock up his ass
>>53906494
if you borrow money, you owe money. still, I wish the bank gave me 6.8% interest
>>53905976
>>53906264
>>53905603
lol student debt retards
>hey, let me sign a deal with the devil instead of working for 6 months at a minimum wage job, living with my parents and saving all the money i'll ever need for college.
>fuck personal responsibility and long term goals, i want it all NOW, at the expense of LATER
>>53906602
I like Bernie because he cares about the working class and can tell those kids to shut the fuck up, that's not his real policy
>>53905965
The situation is entirely her fault. No one forced her to pay the bare minimum that didn't even cover the interest accruing on the principal.
This isn't even in any way specific to student loans, that's just how compound interest fucking works.
So should I be able to go take a random loan, completely disregard the interest rate, pay back only the principal, and just call it even?
>>53906649
>he cares
that's just his public image.
>>53905965
>which is more than you even borrowed in the first place
I don't think you understand the concept of a loan.
>>53905603
>pic
>I have no idea how debt works.
>now i am in trouble because i don't know how anything works.
>t. community college graduate.
>>53906655
>hurr durr if you go to college to do what you love your an idiot and money should be your first interst in college
>hurr durr you should drive a junker piece of shit and live in a cardboard box so you can pay off loans
you're a dumbass without a clue of how the real world works. Fuckoff you privileged piece of shit.
>Pay less than amount necessary to pay off interest each month
>Interest compounds
I'm supposed to feel sorry for her because...?
>>53906649
>>53905965
I live in a country with mostly government funded higher education. Enjoy your Jew cock :^)
>>53906704
your situation is entirely your fault. fuck off you hyppocritical member of this website
Taking out and paying off loans is a relatively minor challenge in life.
If you can't manage it, you might not be cut out to be an independant adult.
Luckily, women have the advantage of it being socially acceptable to marry a man who will fully support you financially.
But she can't even manage THAT.
Time to give up and die in a ditch.
>>53906767
this though.
i paid off my first car (27k, bought used) while i was in college working a job that paid about $18/hr, living on my own too. what the hell is she wasting her money on???
>>53906704
>taxpayers should support my education even though I leave school too stupid to understand how a loan works
>Bernie is the best candidate for as long as any of us can remember
>Americans won't vote him in
I know Americans are stereotyped for being stupid as fuck, but this is a whole other level.
>>53906815
>>53906659
>>53906715
at least it's a consistent image backed by real legislature. I first saw him in an underground media conspiracy film and he was obviously spouting political rhetoric in the interview (that's part of his job).
10 years later he's running for president and his website says the same things re: media consolidation. the things he does involve efficient energy, public transportation, and hiring lots of people.
realistically: anybody but trump or clinton
>>53906740
>ill just completely ignore the fact that there are jobs that require degrees that dont pay enough to pay off student loans and live reasonably and these jobs are NECESSARY jobs
>>53906824
>>53906824
>media consolidation
wut?
you mean turn everything into a state run news outlet like Xinhua?
>>53906827
>i'll just point out that i think it's the responsibility of my employer to take care of me, nomatter what
grow up.
>>53906649
>Increasing taxation on everyone
>Destroying the economy
>Cares about the working class
>>>/leddit/
>>53906834
$65k for a late career politician is fucking nothing, you have plenty of guys who owe millions to arabs and chinese.
>>53906840
that was the theme of the film. every media outlet becoming news corp, AOL/time warner, or disney
>>53906827
So don't take out a loan to go to school to get one of those jobs.
Or live below your standards for a while to save money to pay off the loan if you do end up in that situation.
>>53906827
Please name an example.
>>53906815
The fact that he made it anywhere is the greatest testament to our failing education system, imo.
Fucking politics.
>>53906871
>that was the theme of the film
oh, so it's just a side show of conspritard-tier thought processes of which the sole purpose is to act as a distracting side show from the core issues, or lack of issues he really cares about?
>>53906871
so, we're all voting for hillary, right?
>>53905603
Stupid women, probably made payments with a credit card and now she's asking for reddit fags to make a stand for her.
If you are retarded enough to only pay the minimum amount on a loan and go to college for a degree that is not going to get you a decent job you deserve to be debt
>>53906897
I think it came out ca. 2004 and is narrated by the filmmaker who literally calls independent film a "third world" in the docu, so yeah. it uses a lot of 1984 quotes but the academics interviewed mostly seemed concerned about the media corps buying politicians, not so much the other way around
>>53906875
art degree
>>53906810
they never teach that in schools sadly though
>>53906264
Yes, I don't see the problem.
You mean it doesn't happen like that in some third world countries?
>>53906264
It just makes long term economic sense for a country to heavily sponsor higher education. You want your citizens to have highly technical jobs because you're not going to be able to compete on wages with some third world shithole.
>>53907012
>art degree
Why go into a field that you need connections to be successful in, if you don't have any?
>>53907037
Muricans don't have a basic economics class in primary school?
>>53906875
I'd say the greatest testament to our failing education system is the fact that Donald Drumpf lasted more than a week in the race.
>>53907066
It makes sense for higher education to be available to everyone but it would mean more taxes and more people choosing stupid majors and failing just cause they can. Paying for an education makes there more motivation to do better.
>>53907081
He's better than the other republican candidates though.
>>53905896
Yep, over 23 years the 32.7k amounts to roughly 1% return on investment. A lot more productive shit could have been done with that 26k.
>>53907012
That's a degree that requires good networking to pull off. I can see where an 18 year old could feel cheated after completing it and getting nothing from it. If a degree actually had no value, it would be sort of absurd for people to expect other people to pay for it, wouldn't it?
>>53907081
I think "the Donald" is more a result of people being upset with the system than anything.
>>53907037
Economics and Personal Finance does get taught now in public schools.
>>53907114
It doesn't mean you should let everyone fail as much as they want for several years. If they don't pass classes you cut them off. Not a whole lot you can do about shitty majors though, I'm afraid.
>>53907114
I think that it's a bit different.
In america when someone gets a loan to study for 5 years, they also use that money for surviving. Am I right?
Just because college is relatively cheap in europe, doesn't mean you can just spend years studying and not worry about money. You need the support of someone, or get a part time job.
>>53907066
Yes. I think every highschool should be a technical school where you learn a trade like MACHINING, or carpentry, electrical, hvac, hairdresser faggots, automotive, disel tech, aircraft mechs, microcomputer software CAD/CAM ETC...This way, no matter how much an asshole you are you'll always have a technical skill to fall back on.
>>53907148
Good
And when will they start teaching how to use fucking GIT in any degrees that involves programming?
FFS, stop teaching UML SHIT and teach version control software so you don't fuck with everyone's day
>>53907195
when I become the captain of the universe, I will implement this idea. I love it
>>53907037
It's literally basic math senpai
>>53907224
and most americans don't even do calculus in high school
so thanks for agreeing with me
>>53907195
And absolutely no other skills that are necessary to progress into higher education
>>53906715
This is the greatest thing about Bernie, he literally scammed pretty much every millennial into funding his retirement as a rich man
He isn't running to win, there's a reason he doesn't even touch shillary
>>53907012
>necessary job
>requires a degree
don't get take out a student loan for a fucking art degree. jesus fuck.
>>53907160
What we do here is not fund shitty majours. STEM fields are hugely government-sponsored, but you need your own capital to get into stuff like """art""".
>>53907178
Yeah in america tons of people max out the loans and use it for housing, food, other bills, eating out, booze, drugs, partying, buying expensive clothes and other frivolous shit. Then they bitch and whine about how its unfair to have all that debt from trying tom get an education ignoring the fact that more often the debt is from financing an easy comfy lifestyles that did not involve working, or in other words a vacation. Just look at how the average US college student lives, these are not people struggling to get by and better themselves with a degree.
>>53907081
>>53907254
Like what? I just got certified a journeyman machinist and can progress further into programming or mechanical engineering. Don't tell me other trades don't offer similar things. Fuck hairdressers.
>>53907224
>>53907245
It's not actually math really. It's just a basic concept. You need money, the jew gives you the money you need, but you have to pay the jew smaller amounts of money over time. The more money you pay him, the sooner you stop having to pay him money. If you pay too little money, you'll have to keep paying him money forever.
A little kid could understand this, but grown adults don't/
>>53907254
Bitch I've taken an english 101 class. You might as well have not gone to school since 6th grade.
This reminds me of longpostguy's shit on /o/, he's a car salesman and he tells about horror credit stories. Most people are doing fine with their first car, they don't crash it, but they decide they don't like it anymore and trade it in, it's depreciated far too quickly and they get negative equity. Then they will only get a loan for 28.9%, pay the minimum each month and end up far underwater.
>>53907462
I was thinking about that too.
It just goes to show how some people don't even make basic deliberations when presented with immediate reward.
Those sorts of people don't belong in college.
>>53907081
>I'd say the greatest testament to our failure to indoctrinate leftist beliefs in our educational system is the fact that god emperor lasted more than a week in the race
Fixed it for you
>>53905603
In actually civilized countries, you can't allow the minimum loan payment be an amount that wont fulfill the loan within a hard cap of 30 years.
>>53907698
>idiot protection
this is why europeans are pussies
>>53906715
>believing a rich person who says they will penalize rich people
>>53907718
if you don't protect the idiots, then it becomes a great business to create more of them.
see america.
>>53907788
He wasn't rich, he was literally poor
>>53906704
>hurr durr you should drive a junker piece of shit and live in a cardboard box so you can pay off loans
>everyone is entitled to a Mercedes and a mcmansion.
>>53905603
Go to a community college. I came out owing 2k for it all and started making 50k after only 18 months of school. My school had an EE course so im sure one around you has one
>>53907832
His net worth is a hell of a lot more than I'll ever see and he's a career academic who contributes jack shit to society.
>>53905603
Wait, death frees me?
Fuck yeah, see you fuckers in hell. Enjoy your iphones and graphics cards and shit.
>>53905603
smoke meth. who needs degrees.
>>53906827
>require degree
>working for a company that hires based on what pieces of paper candidates have
>>53907262
Bernie's record is undeniable. He consistently finds himself on the right side of history
>>53907126
Kasich would be miles better. He has actual experience as governor, and he excelled at it.
Trump's experiences are of bankruptcy and surrounding himself with people that will stroke his ego
>>53907245
my school went up to calculus 2 sooo
>>53907916
Not economics
>>53906649
a jew that cares about the working class, yeah right.
>>53907916
bernie is a jew. you cannot trust a jew to be honest with the country's money. he will probably hide half the gdp under his mattress
Is there some "channel" or "board" on reddit where people post about their hardships with student loans? It gives me a relaxed, euphoric feeling to read about this stuff.
>>53906815
believing in sanders this much, good goy.
>>53906623
> $7600 is enough to pay for 4 yrs of college
That will get you tuition + books for a single semester at a state school.
>>53907081
Donald Chump
>>53908114
butthurt
>>53905814
I'd love to only pay $1k a year on my student loans. I don't care if I owe 45k when I'm dead, I only paid what, 90 bucks a month for student debt? That's fucking pennies! This bitch gamed the system
If you want to perform a maintenance job without schooling, you'll have to find a related internship somewhere relevant. Your best bet is something industrial. It'll be hard work, but generally they'll also put you through school, or at least give you a decent amount towards it.
I work for a place that makes kidney dialyzers. I'm not a maintenance person, but my job involves maintenance and adjustments to the machinery. One of the maintenance guys here got his start at a nearby amusement park.
The most. Valuable thing you can do is electrical work. Either get an apprenticeship for that or go to school for it after you find a place that will help you pay for the schooling.
Where I work, they'll cover about 3/4 of my tuition. Most places in the area are the same or better.
>>53906649
unless you're white then you don't know what its like to be poor
>>53906649
>He cares
Vermont resident here, he's a known bullshitter and flops like a fish. He's just found a new batch of gullible people to inflate his ego with.
>>53907081
His appeal is to the spite vote, much like George Wallace. Many don't vote for him because they agree with his politics, but because they disagree with everybody else or feel that washington needs to get shaken up.
>>53907262
The Sanders family are no strangers to scams. Look up the various exploits of his wife which he totally didn't have any hand in.
>>53906264
Education should be free a citizen should be able to get the necessary studies and employment in oder to secure a solid economy in the future blame jews blame whatever but the current educational system is a mess and the future is looking grim if you have to pay life long debts just so you can "maybe" get employed in whatever you studied.
>>53905603
>pay off ~2-3x the listed monthly payment
>on track to have my loans off in 2-3 years, while saving up for buying a house, currently paying rent, etc.
sucks to suck, I guess.
>>53907832
Oh come on. He's "not rich" because he shuffles money around his family.
>>53907916
No, he doesn't. If you actually read his voting record and payed attention to what he does when he's not running for president, you would know this.
>>53911210
*Paid
That's what I get for being awake this late.
>>53911191
General education is a scam now that autism rates are so high that you get classes where one in ten children is an aspie
You need to blow money on specialized curriculum, throw every other person that isn't black to the curb because it would be too expensive to educate them, or alter the entire curriculum and screw normies out of normie skills.
>No, you NEED to learn english comp and history to be a well rounded person, anon.
>but i want to do math
>FORMAL ESSAY NOW
>can i do proofs
>ESSAY
>geometric proofs?
>ESE POR FAVOR
>install gentoo? watch anime? what? can i tell you why your favorite anime is shit?
>ESSAY ABOUT THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION
>i'll call it "the jews did it, democracy is a sham, vote trump"
>ESSAY ABOUT CIVIL RIGHTS?
>hold on let me get my evidence that niggers are inferior and philosophy proving animal rights irrelevant
>-failing grade-
>>53911253
Not education's fault that you were a sped who wanted to sperg about niggers instead of learning.
>>53911295
>You
I'm talking about autists in general. Autists are not open to influence. Autists only learn what they want to learn and tip their fedoras all the way home.
Autists are that kid who said "fuck math, you'll never use this", but actually smart enough for the math, not too dumb and trying to hide it. They're a serious problem for what western ed assumes a child "ought" to be taught.
>>53911351
No, autists are those kids who were convinced that they were professionals at everything they did, and that they were shunned and got bad grades due to social pressures and not because they vastly overestimated themselves and had an adversion to doing things other people's ways.
Also, they would flap their hands and talk about sanic.
>>53911351
If there were free yes totally free educational programs for spergs maybe they could sort them out and use them for whatever they are best at.
Giving a chance of employment to anyone costs money but if done right brings more benefits and less wage cucks in the future.
>>53911386
Autist brains don't work right. They can't fit themselves into the world. They're entitled by nature. And they flap their hands and talk about sanic.
You're confusing them with sheltered kids who got too many trophies and eventually failed under the pressure of false expectations. There's some overlap, especially when autists get homeschooled and can limit themselves to the few skills their brains can comprehend, but don't mix them up. One is a parenting problem. The other problem can only be solved with cyanide and sealed chambers.
>>53911492
I'm a fan of carpets and bridges myself.
>>53907351
>these are not people struggling
I grew up in a college town, college kids make me sick. They hemorrhage money left and right, live the highest high life. They drove the cost of living through the roof, I had to move. Nobody who isn't living off a government tugboat can survive next to them. I'm not surprised they're floundering now, 90% go to college and live like millionaires' trust fund kids.
>>53911552
>Tugboat
WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH CHRISTIAN WESTON CHANDLER
I may be on some fucking Ativan right now, but I know for a goddamned fact that those numbers don't add up
>>53911609
What? You don't take out loans that have 25% interest?
>>53911552
Yeah it's fucked up. I'm a grad student and it was hard as fuck to find a place to live I could afford on my stipend. Nearly all there is around here is fucking luxury apartments with waterparks and massive gyms and theaters and just bullshit that are like $1500 for a bedroom in a shared apartment. And from the rate at which they continue to build these things, they obviously have no problem renting them out.
College kids are entitled little fucks. And don't even get me started on how fucking whiny they get when they don't get an A for their, at best, mediocre work.
>>53911635
More like 5% idiot.
>>53911694
Sorry I didn't take the time out to calculate the interest. it's ~4.6%, or a little higher. Sorry.
Still, paying minimum is a bitch.
>>53907178
>In america when someone gets a loan to study for 5 years, they also use that money for surviving.
It's the same in the UK.
>>53911609
Nah they do. Even at 7% interest, if she hadn't paid at all she would owe like $130k after 23 years, so paying off a little bit of the interest before it compounds those numbers are totally believable. Still her fault for being a 'tard though.
>>53911635
never knew vivi smoked
>>53907037
You can learn it in 10 minutes if you are not an idiot.
>>53907788
>>53907262
>>53906715
I'm definitely not voting for Bernie but y'all are some fucking idiots for believing a /pol/ scam
like why the fuck is bernie going to drive a fucking car by himself from campaign rally to campaign rally, he has a fucking tour bus that he gets to sleep, eat, shit, work, and watch netflix on while someone drives. think about it, would secret service even allow it?
>>53906822
Ow. Feel The Bern.
>>53905603
wait, do Americans actually have to pay interest on their student loans?
what the fuck..
>>53906906
god damn, now thats a burn
>>53911174
I see a lot of progressives say this to justify how Trump could get so popular, but the vast majority of Trump supporters I hear about actually do like most of his policies. Like all his protectionist policies are very pleasing to his supporters.
Only thing where I see less-conservative supporters waver is the abortion related stuff recently.
>>53912271
>Americans
> forced to take out loans to go to school
At least pay closer attention to the heart of the problem.
Since the mid- to late-1970s, there should have been a provision for students to attend at least 2 years of post-high school education for free. Any field, just so long as they maintain a minimum GPA (I'd say over 2.5 on the traditional 4 point scale).
Those with good enough grades and actual financial need should have been eligible for a full 4-year degree, so long as they meet certain requirements (such as minimum GPA, being accepted into a program, being on-track to finish in under 5 years, etc.).
Since the mid-1990s, every high school graduate should have had the option to attend a university to obtain a 4 year degree for free, again pending other minimal qualifications.
As a country, we've just been shooting ourselves in the head by trying to figure out ways to keep people out of school and burdening them with crushing debt on a gamble. Professional fields are changing so rapidly now that what you enter school for doesn't exist four years later.
Businesses also now expect a fresh college graduate to have a resume that 30 year old workers had spent a decade building in 1980, or they will hire a Poojeet on an H1-B that has a falsified resume specifically so they can let him go after 4 years of performing shit work. It's completely insane.
>tfw you got paid to study
