How long did your previous hard drives last? Also name the brand if you can and what happened right before it broke.
I had a seagate drive that took 5 years for it to brick.
I've had HDDs from Toshiba, HGST (Hitachi), Seagate, and WD. All of them have survived 5 years without dying. I replaced them all befoore general signs of failure have appeared.
>>53876206
5 years is general rule of thumb. That being said i've got a seagate 1TB still going strong after 6 years here.
>>53876206
I've had the same SSD for 6 years.
I once had a HDD but it only lasted 2 years.
had the same HDD for 10 years another for 5
I used a SSD from Apple and it came with LifeProSSD.dmg and i was satisfied
2 500GB, and 1 2TB Barracudas dead in the water. I do have 2 1TB Barracudas still alive although one of them is in a deteriorated state. 1 1TB WD Blue which works, but I've replaced with PCIE SSD. 2 2TB WD Greens which are 3 years old and I've recently added 2 4TB HGST NAS drives.
I have like 10+ years old 60gb drive, 120gb drive, 8+ years old 250gb drive (all three from Maxtor), 2 years old 1tb drive (WB) and 3x 1tb fresh WB drives.
But I dont understand one thing - those gb drives are fine despite all those years of heavy usage, while two 1tb drives failed so far, after one year or so of usage.
Why those large ones fails so easy?
>>53877020
Maybe because the 1tb experience more strain of use because of the load size
>>53876206
My general rule of thumb is that if a HDD didn't fail in the first year of use, it won't fail. I have a 6,4 GB drive from 1998 in a Windows 2000 PC that still works very well.
>>53877119
Mine failed after 2 years of usage.
>>53877132
Well, obviously YMMV. And yes, you should always have a backup of two of your sensible data. I have a RAID 1 box for that.
Anyone ever used RAID 0? I mean, what's the point, is there gain in speed so high that could justify the risk? The idea that if one drive fails you'll probably lose everything gives me shivers.
Hard drives don't have a life expectancy they have a % annual failure chance
Something like 5% of hard drives will fail every year.
So after 5 years that adds up to a significant chance.
Generally the length of time a hard drive lasts is the length of time until your luck runs ou
Do a 1 week burn in.
Most drives that are gonna die within the first 3 years will go within the first 3 months.
Run constant writes for a week, test it for any extra dead sectors.
If it survives it'll more than likely last 3+ years.
That said, I don't know. I've never really had a drive die on me.
I have a 2TB from 2011 that still seems to be working, the same goes for the 11 drives of equal or greater size I've bought since then.
I do have a 750GB 2.5" external drive I got in 2010, and it seems to be on the blink. It doesn't seem to want to copy more than 300MB at any given time before the drive packs it in. So 6 years of light use.
Fuck, better start moving those 2TB's.
>>53876206
Seagate ST1000DM003 +10 years and still running
Seagate ST2000DM001 +3 years and still running
I've never had an HDD die on me, I've had Toshiba, HGST, WD, Maxtor, and Quantum drives.
>>53876206
>seagate: 1 year
>seagate: 1.5 years
>seagate: .5 years
>Hitachi Deskstar: 13 years and counting
>Hitachi Deskstar: .5 years and counting
>>53877200
2x2Tb raid 0 for game installs
2x4Tb raid 1 for documents, save games, and backups
1x256Gb M.2 for windows
1x3Gb RAM drive for downloads or editing projects.
>>53876206
My current system has been running 1x WD black and 1x WD green since 2010.
No issues. System stays on basically 24/7 although the disks of course spin down when inactive.
My 2Tb SSD has not given any trouble so far; 8 years solid uptime.
>>53878730
so that guy has veins popping out of his head because his new HD arrived? what about the hot babe sitting beside him?
What are the telltale signs one is about to die? I have a Hitachi 500gb that came with my prebuilt when I first started messing with pcs since 2013.Makes clicky noises every now and then
>>53876206
Last one? Forever. Still alive and kicking.
A 40 GB one, and had it since forever (already there in my first PC which was bought used for what I assume was years already). It's ATA however so it can't be *that* old.
Current one? Alive for 7 years so far, and as fresh as the day it came out of the manufacturing plant.
HDDs just never die in my experience.
Backups truly are redundant and a meme :^)
>>53879083
>Backups truly are redundant and a meme :^)
this is true. the only guys I know who mess with backups think you need to use anti-static protection when messing with a mobo.
I had a 5400rpm 75gb Maxtor as my main drive since 8 years and it's still doing well with no bad s.m.a.r.t. values. Retired it for an 250gb evo 850. A 5900rpm 1TB seagate drive that was approximately 4 years old showed a bit of reallocated sectors (pic related) but I backed everything up on a 2TB WD Black and it's all good. I reckon in would have died in about a year. I have another 7200rpm 1TB seagate that's some 4 years old and in pristine condition. I've never had an IDE HDD fail.
Never had a hard drive die on me, thankfully. Probably because I switch them out for the massively increased capacity every time I upgrade main components every few years.
The only hard drive that died on me was a 10 years old Maxtor drive.
>>53876206
They all average at 5 years after that they become unreliable.
>>53876206
My hard drive from 1995 still works, desu.
>>53876206
My last HDD lasted for 8 years...
it was an WD black... I fucking loved it... Now after serving as always on back-up it broke one month ago...
Mine has 28 bad sectors but it's worked fine for over a year since I last checked.
>>53876691
HGST is owned by WD now
the oldest drives i have are from 02/03 that i stopped using about a year ago, all seagate barracuda ATA drives. ive had boards psus and gpus die but never a hdd
Has anyone noticed that newer HDDs all have shit reliability? Reviews on sites like newegg and amazon are mortifying regarding the amount of DOA drive or ones that died in less than a year.
I've gotten lucky with a 1tb Hitachi HD for 6 years
Only used it for backup but running everyday.
Had others like WD that lasted 4 years
>>53876691
Really 5 years? My Hitachi died in 3 years.
>>53881763
Yupp, my Hitachi's were 2x1TB and a,2.5" 500GB that was conatantly thrown about.
just keep it cool and vibration free good hdds can last decades
>>53881893
>vibration free
This is key. Or get something that is specifically manufactured to resist vibrations like the WD Black. Also it's not really about cool per say. Some hard drives have very low operational temperatures. The key is to keep the temperature STABLE and evenly spread more than anything to avoid any (relatively fast) expansions/contractions in the metal plates that may damage the drive.
>>53881717
It has always been thus. Look at Google's or Backblaze's statistics - that is not new.
Huge spike in failure rate at the beginning, in initial burn-in period, or DOA. Then failure gets much less likely, and failure probability gradually creeps up as the drive gets older.
Drives from similar batches tend to die around the same time: i.e. you probably want to avoid getting all the drives in your NAS from the same batch, because your RAID-5 (or even RAID-6) may well die while rebuilding.
All old sysadmin knowledge. Nothing new there.
i hear a squeaking noise coming from the front of my pc that assume is from the hard drive (seagate 1tb), since i confirmed that it wasn't coming from the intake fans. how fucked am i?
>>53882272
I really need to get to reading those.
Good information. Thanks friend.
I have two identical 2Tb seagate HDD's and they have head parking issues. So they have been making the death clicks. Disabled the head parking in crystal disk and there good.. been going for 5 years now.. Most of the time they were used in my home server so they were on for months at a time. Just replaced them with two WD blacks
>>53878901
>2TB SSD
>8 years uptime
What
7+ years
1 TB something
still up
how do you guys break things so easily?
Oddest thing happened recently. Both my 1tb SSD and 1tb HDD crashed at the exact same time. Just a year old too. Thought maybe a power outage fried my tower, but bios is working fine. Hard drives just gone.
At what point do I replace a hard drive that's developing bad sectors? 1tb WD green
>>53881563
They changed their name to HGST after WD bought them, so HGST has always been owned by WD.
>>53884868
The name refers to the same company that used to not be owned by WD. HGST used to be a non-WD company, but under a different name.
I have a WD blue that's been going since 2009
I haven't had one HDD die of natural causes yet and most are over 5 years old. Heck, I even have a 10.2GB IDE Hard Drive that's over 12 years old that still boots up just fine
I've had one hdd die on me and that was some shitty drive that I got out of an old external harddrive. Other than that I've never had any die.
>>53876206
My 16 years old IDE 10GB Seagate still works, no bad blocks or SMART
the only hard drive I've ever seen fail was an IDE my dad had from 2005 after about 5 years. Have a WD green 1tb going strong from 2009
>>53876206
I have a 1TB MyBook external HDD that was purchased in 2008 and survived multiple falls. It stopped working as an external, but when I started using it as an internal drive Windows did some repairs on it and now it has been working for over a year.
>tfw still using 80gig drive from 12 years ago
>>53876206
Got a old 250gb Hitachi 2 "5 back from 2008 in a old linux macbook stil working fine with 4 years of uptime.
>>53876206
I've never had a drive fail on me. The closest I've gotten is an e-mail by smartd about a week ago informing me that /dev/sdg's current_pending_sector has increased to 1.
So far, nothing seems to have been broken and btrfs scrub reports 0 checksum errors on the drive.
It's a 2TB Samsung SpinPoint F4 EcoGreen with 36207 hours of runtime.
Power_On_Hours -O--CK 063 063 000 - 16403
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
Error 3 [2] occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 10552 hours (439 days + 16 hours)
Error 2 [1] occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 9767 hours (406 days + 23 hours)
Error 1 [0] occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 9767 hours (406 days + 23 hours)
Still going strong!
>>53889124
Oops. Forgot:=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Hitachi/HGST Travelstar 5K750
Device Model: Hitachi HTS547550A9E384
What? Never had a drive fail of any brand of all the ones I've had over 15 years, laptop or desktop.
>install it properly
>don't use it immediately if it's been in the cold delivery truck until it slowly gets to room temp
>don't leave in the heat and cold all the time
>Look up firmware to see if it's fucked but if not then don't update it
Also had two msata SSDs and a regular SSD for 4 years now. Some of the ones I still boot up are IDE, the fug are you guys doing to this stuff.
Used to work at a mom and pop computer store and all of the failed hard drives were always due to physical damage of the unit - for example they would kick the desktop, or throw the laptop and the drive would flip its smart switches or outright fail.
>>53876206
Seagate/Samsung: 3 years
Maxxtor: 11 years
Don't ask me how that Maxxtor has been working for so long...
I built a FreeNAS server using 12 250GB drives I got from old jukeboxes at work, they systematically started crapping out about 6 months later.
Luckily I was able to back everything up just before the last operating pairs for each pool started to fail. The next setup will be 12 2TB drives in ZFS split between 3 pools.
Don't fall for the Reliability meme, get as many drives as possible
>>53876206
My complete history of hard drives:
100MB IBM SCSI hard drive, from an IBM PS/2 - daily use 1991-1998, computer placed in storage 1999-2005, occasional use 2006-present for DOS gaming: still alive and kicking. Last checked about a month ago.
6GB Maxor IDE hard drive, Dell XPS D333: Daily use 1998-2003, occasional use 2004-2008 as computer for relative: Hard drive failed 2008. Whole PC locked up, followed by consistent clicking noises within an hour of initial lockup. PC would not recognize hard drive 2 hours after onset of symptoms.
20GB Western Digital laptop hard drive, Toshiba Satellite 1905: Daily use 2003-2008, occasional use 2008-2010: Still worked as of 2010, destroyed hard drive to dispose of laptop.
250GB Western Digital WD2500JS SATA drive, prebuilt Dell: Daily use as main drive 2007-2010, daily use as backup and storage drive 2010-present: 19 bad sectors but still works. No new bad sectors since the initial 19 appeared.
750GB Western Digital WD7501AALS: Daily use as main drive 2010-2015, daily use as games/app drive 2016-present. No errors, no bad sectors.
2TB Western Digital WD20EZRX: Daily use as backup drive/media storage 2013-present: Still works, no bad sectors.
>>53889467
Data for three drives still presently in use:
>WD2500JS: Power on count: 4,847. Power on hours: 37,540
> WD7501AALS: Power on count: 3,011. Power on hours: 28,047
>WD20EZRX: Power on count: 644. Power on hours: 5,799
I still have a 30GB Western Digital drive from 15 years ago that works perfectly. A lot has to do with how you treat the drive.
>>53889992
I got a 30MB drive in a 286 that still runs. 5.25" full-height, has DOS 5 on it. Only power it up once a year or so, though.
>>53890014
I have a few other drives of mine and i have no idea what still might be on them. I just ordered a new IDE/SATA to USB adapter the other day. Should be here by friday Hope they work.
>>53876742
I once had a hard drive last me 2 days. Fucking WD Greens.
>>53890088
I've always used WD. Only had one ever fail. It was a green. Never again. WD Black or nothing
>>53890136
What about WD Blue? Also why are some of them called "Caviar x"?
>>53876206
My WD Black is on its way out. The thing mounts fine, and SMART checks out clean, but nothing will open and chkdsk throws up errors for days so oh well I guess. All muh music ;_ ;
>>53890164
Hey, before you give up hope, Put a linux distro on a thumb drive and boot it up. See if you can read or open anything that way before giving up on it. If you have an external hard drive to copy stuff over, try that.
>>53890217
I planned to. I'm upgrading my SSD drive this week and I assume that since the damn thing mounts that I should be able to migrate everything before reformatting to clear the bad sectors out and using whatever's left as a decent game drive or something.
>>53890164
just restore it from your backups senpai
>>53890248
Sounds good. But when you start to migrate stuff, do it from within Linux. A friend of mine had a partially corrupt microSD card. Couldn't get any windows computer to even read it, but my Linux PC did. I was able to save about 75% of his files. There's something about how windows deals with failing/corrupt drives that pisses me off. Hope you can save your stuff. And on another note, you might want to make sure your ram isn't having any issues. I had one stick go bad and damn... its like the quiet death. Everything seems to go wrong and you cant find a reason for it. Drives won't load or they just corrupt and poof. The whole fucking computer is compromised.
>>53876206
Been using a 1TB HDD for 4 years now, still working fine.
>>53890341
Appreciate the helpful tips, bro. I've had to deal with other's failing drives, but never my own so it's a pretty sad day. Now I'm stuck trying to decide what to replace it with.
It's mostly a mass storage drive where music, movies/vids, and game downloads go so I'm leaning towards another Black drive or an HGST one but if anyone here has a better suggestion, I am all ears.
>Hitachi HDS721050CLA360 500 GB
>Power On Hours: 25068
>Power On Count: 317
Almost 3 years and apparently I almost never turned my computer off. Haven't heard any clicking that I can recall.
>>53890439
another HD black would be fine. NO DRIVE is guaranteed. Remember, even the most well built, expensive car on the planet can still have an engine that will explode. That's just the way it is.
>>53876206
I have 600mb WD Caviars from 95' what work perfectly, some drives from 89' too.
I haven't actually lost any yet. My 500gb WD has to be a decade old by now and only recently has it begun to show its age. Today it made some rather alarming noises. 150gb WD is newer but slower in comparison. 500gb Seagate external is still functioning but it's cheap junk and I've never trusted it.
Think I'll run by the shop tomorrow and find a 1-2tb HDD to replace my old one before it finally poops itself and dies on me.
As in total age, 6 years at least now and 2 as in operating time (close to 20k hours)
>>53876206
Anyone have the Kill all humans Sophia gif?
>>53876206
Have a hard drive salvaged from my laptop in my home PC now. 5 years and counting
>>53876206
A week or so ago it just started making a beep noise and PC froze. I restarted and it just didn't werk anymore, says it's not recognized. Also started making a beep and click noise.
Had it since early 2013, lost everything which is pretty fucking annoying.
>>53892721
Previous one was this one here, it still works(I use it as a storage though)
An old WD green of mine has 2262 power on days and shows no problems aside from slowing down some.
Western digital. 2 months.... Smart error. I shot it with a 45 cal..... Suprisingly stopped the bullet
