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>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.
Isolation ≠ Noise cancellation
>For the newfags that keep replying to the "Belgian shitposter"
http://pastebin.com/WmqBnCAF
>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones
Previous Thread:
>>53839194
Continued:
>Speaker and Headphone Guides:
https://www.reddit.com/r/zeos
>Reviews:
https://www.youtube.com/user/ZeosReviews
https://www.youtube.com/user/InnerFidelity
https://www.youtube.com/user/dalethorn2/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/hifiguy528/
>Communities
https://www.reddit.com/r/zreviews
https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones
>>53839224
Be sure to kill yourself while you're at it.
>>53839194
Great job OP! Create a new thread long before it is appropriate and fail to link it to the last thread as is appropriate.
>>53839274
>10 posts til bump limit
Do you have autism are are you just retarded?
>>53839512
>15 posts til bump limit
FTFY
And yesterday it took nearly EIGHT HOURS for that thread to get to the bump limit.
Wait until we get to the bump limit before creating a new thread.
Also this is no excuse for your failure to link the previous thread.
>>53839512
Even after bump limit it still needs to hit page 10. You just want your pastebin to be seen.
Should be asking yourself that question.
>>53839512
Actually I was wrong. It wasn't 15 posts til bump limit. It is 18 posts til bump limit.
Shit I'm kinda tempted by the SR-007 if I can get the HM5 hybrids or angled Alpha pads on them.
>>53839565
>18 posts in among one of /g/'s fastest moving threads
still its petty
>>53839831
>one of /g/'s fastest moving threads
The previous thread took nearly eight hours. Where are you getting your facts from if not previous threads?
>>53839844
>eight hours after bump limit
so
>>53839862
>fast moving
>seven plus hours for less than twenty posts to reach bump limit
Pick one.
Ive been thinking of getting he-400i, does anyone here own a pair? How are they? I mostly listen to metal and some electronic music.
>>53839878
>being this autistic
>>53839878
>Posting a gif that doesn't move
>>53839934
>being a faggot that tries to deny facts by calling the person who presents the fact an "autist."
Pic is OP at his last audition.
>>53839933
Would be better off with an X2.
>>53839947
>complains about file format
>calls other people autists
>inb4imadifferentposter
can anyone identify these?
>>53839601
I'll make a new one of these eventually.
Okay I'm hooked. Are tubes something I should try out?
https://youtu.be/65r9Q21Yxno?t=8m45s
>>53840209
No, they are drawing you in with pure looks.
>>53840209
>Zeosposting
Fuck off.
>>53840169
Looks like JVC HA-S500. I own 1 of these
What are the headphones you guys usually recommend? The ones for a 60-80 dollar range.
>>53840623
AKG K240
>>53839976
just saw this on newegg. is it worth my time to consider?
>>53840950
Its horrificly veiled, the K240 is better
>>53841021
in that case, does anyone make a headphone that feels as open as sennheiser, but isnt as ugly?
Can someone assist me in my headphone purchase?
>budget
$80 hard limit
>location
SoCal US
>source
My phone. My laptop. My PS4 controller.
>preferred type of headphone
IEM. Over ears are not comfortable for me.
>comfort level
Hard plastic is a no (Apple buds). Something with those gel things.
>preferred music
Honestly, almost everything. Getting special headphones for those certain genres doesn't matter to me.
>past headphones
Skullcandy Ink'd
Sennheiser CX 5.0
The ones that came with my Samsung Galaxy
>>53841133
RE400
>>53840950
Zeos like em, must be good
Where to go from my SE535?
IE800 maybe?
>>53840950
these are really good for the price, they are a little bass heavy i dont know if is a deal breaker for you
>>53840950
Very good price.
Why are headphones allowed to be -too- good, /g/? Why did you trick me into buying a good pair of headphones? Now I can't watch my HD cartoons like American Dad and Cleveland Show without cringing. I can literally hear the reverb in the studio's. I can hear the room they were in while they were recording. I didn't ask for headphones to sound this good.
>>53841339
>>53841356
sennshills out
>>53841310
AKG K3003 or CIEM
>>53841533
That non detachable wire might pose a problem.
>>53841573
Regardless the AKG K3003 is the best iem that isnt a ciem
>>53840209
mental illness.
Any help?
>Budget
60-80 USD
>Location
California
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Anything that can last me 5+ hours
>Past headphones
X12s that I'm looking to replace with some good headphones and a desk mic
>>53841642
aside from build quality T8ie would smash that shit, even IE800 sounds better.
>>53842015
>T8ie
Are there any measurements for that? Or are you basing that from reviews?
I ordered this. Did I do a big mistake?
I hope the channels don't have imbalance.
These are made in Korea right?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/262348758193
>>53841927
Takstar Pro 80
>>53842015
T8i has not measurments aside from the deluted ramblings for audiophiles and the IE800 measures worse than the IE80
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserIE800.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGK3003ReferenceFilter.pdf
>>53842161
>A AKG oem lg iem
cant be a total fuck up if i had to guess
>>53842075
http://www.lesnumeriques.com/casque-audio/beyerdynamic-ak-t8ie-p28409/test.html
Basing from personal experience and many opinions from around my audiophile community. Almost all of them agree that K3003 feels overpriced and IE800 fairs better with good isolation. Where as T8ie has seen limited usage around me but most of the user agrees that although the build quality is wonky, the sound it produced is pleasant to the ears.
>>53840950
Official headphones for Harman test shit. They are really good, especially at that price.
>>53842423
Fuck off with your harman curve bullshit i and no one here cares about what normalfags think is """""""best""""""""
>>53842385
isolation doesn't matter when the IEM sounds like muffled nigger farts to begin with
>no measurments of the T8i
its shit until proved scientifically otherwise
>>53842161
got them with my V10, they're breddy gud for earbuds included with a phone. Nothing amazing though
>>53842366
>>53842161
Quadbeat 3 is great. One of the better options among bassy in ears.
>>53842385
>K3003
>overpriced
the IE80 measures better than the fucking IE800 so if anything isn't worth its price its that veiled pos. The fact that the IE80 doesnt have the typical sennheiser veil and the IE800 does just proves that the IE800 belongs in the fucking trash with all the other no treble shit sennheiser makes
I'm torn between the Superlux HD681 and HD681 Evo. Gonna use them mostly for games.
Which should I get?
HD681 is €20 but comes without velour pads, whereas the Evo is €30 but has velour pads included. On top of that the Evo looks quite a lot better.
>>53842724
How about get a K240 and stop buying shitty knockoffs of the real thing
>>53842516
>IE 80 and IE 800
Both shit.
> The fact that the IE80 doesnt have the typical sennheiser veil
The veil is only typical for their IEMs which are veiled as all hell. Midbass boost to the moon and upper mids are basically notched out. Terrible in-ears, response is like IM70 except worse in every aspect.
>with all the other no treble shit sennheiser makes
Such as? Actually don't answer. Hilarious that someone actually fell for the veilheiser meme.
>>53842724
EVO is awful. Don't get it. HD681 and if you need velours, get the K240 velours pads.
>>53840212
Why do head-fi like them then?, they seems to pick good headphones. They can't all be insane.
Tube amps are to us are what headphone amps are to normies.
>why
>>53842746
K240 is 3x as expensive
>>53842750
Why is the Evo awful exactly?
>>53839194
>it's an o2 amp actually sounds better than the e10k episode
Not even bullshitting, my normie brother could hear the difference on a blind fold test.
>>53842782
>K240 is 3x as expensive
He's the resident AKG shill who recommends either K240, K553 or K702 to everyone.
>Why is the Evo awful exactly?
It has awful build quality but more importantly it sounds like ass. It's extremely bassy headphone with a harsh treble and mids are missing. HD681 on the other hand is very, very good for the price. It's not comfortable or build well but for 20 bucks you can't really expect much. K240 pads fit it.
>>53842750
IE80 isnt veiled and is a solid IEM for someone looking for a bassy midrange IEM
Just about everything sennhiser makes is veiled
>>53842782
Stop being fucking poor then
>>53842831
Don't bother this thread has the pastebin this is the last reply your getting, enjoy.
>>53839194
>the "Belgian shitposter"
oh my god what a total loser
>>53842831
Looked around a bit more (mostly head-fi) and ultimately went with the HD681 Evo.
The bass can be reduced and sharpened with a foam mod apparently and everyone says the treble is much softer than the original 681s.
Build quality is irrelevant given the price and the fact I'll only use it on my desktop.
The fact that it seems much more comfortable and comes with velour pads made me pick these.
Then again, if they're not great it's not a big loss anyway.
>>53842844
fuck off welfarecuck
fiio e10k or q1?
>>53844264
found the belgian
>budget
~$500-800
>location
US Chicago area
>source
ifi micro idsd or fiio k5/e17k
>preferred type of headphone
over ear open
>comfort level
high and I have a big head
>preferred music
merzbow, seriously. I want to hear all details of the noise, and there are more than you think.
>past headphones
Grado ps-500
he-560
pm3
mad dog pros
what if i just want something comfortable that i can run in?
>pic unrelated
Good afternoon /hpg/, what are you guys up to?
>>53845209
Besides playing spot the Belgian and shitposting? vidya, obviously. Playing Grim Dawn right now.
![jvc_684[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/OajsDEj.gif "jvc_684[1].gif")
Does JVC make any headphones worthy of note?
>>53845209
who's the qt?
>>53844468
e10k if you don't need it to be battery powered, q1 if you do
they are very close together in quality, e10ks amp is stronger, both work fine on my t50 rp
>Budget
$150 (600 PLN), somewhat flexible
>Location
Poland
>Source
Xonar DG
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-Ear
>Open or closed
Either, leaning towards open
>Comfort level
Wearable for 20 hours with no or little breaks
>Preferred tonal balance
>Preferred music
http://www.last.fm/user/keley666
>Past headphones
Audio-Technica A700x, Sony MDR-XB500
Since I know all of you would have the best opinion on this, I was having some trouble deciding on which pair to buy: Takstar HI2050 or Superlux HD-681
Any help is greatly appreciated
>>53845279
>Grim Dawn
That looks interesting, are you liking it?
Wish i had time for vidya, curretly researching for a paper on immersion and presence on games, which is ironic i guess since it's what's keeping me from playing...
>>53845392
That would be Miyu from Vampire Princess Miyu
>>53845569
Hi2050 hands down. Better sound, better build, better comfort.
>>53845628
But are they worth having to ship from China?
>>53845621
>That would be Miyu from Vampire Princess Miyu
Thanks.
How are B&W cans? An online retailer who sends me their specials a few times a week has a good deal on P5 wired ones. At $130 or so, I don't think I can resist much longer.
>>53845435
i'd like it to be battery powered. is there too much difference in the amp?
>>53845649
Yes, but if you don't want to risk that you could look for one of their many rebrands.
Or if closed is also fine, look at the Pro 80, its rebrands or its headset clone, the Kingston HyperX Cloud.
>>53845693
The kingston ones are also looking appealing as I also wanted a mic, so thanks for the recommendation!
>>53845673
Not unless you are trying to drive 300 ohm+ headphones, and even then it'll still drive them just not to really loud levels
go for it, it's cheap for what you get, not really a better deal in battery powered amps
>>53845766
stop giving advise when you don't understand headphone impedance
Reminder that any thread mentioning a 'Belgian shitposter' is riddled with K702 shillposter cancer and should immediately be avoided.
>>53845853
Belgian fuck detected
>>53845960
K702 shillposting wellfarecuck detected
>>53845621
>That looks interesting, are you liking it?
Yeah, it has me hooked pretty nicely right now, but I was previously a huge fan of Titan Quest + Immortal Throne and it's by the same devs.
I've only cleared the first act right now, but I can already feel by the atmosphere that this is what Diablo 3 should've been, only in a Cthulhu meets Van Helsing flavor.
This game has plenty of both immersion and presence, despite being a top-down hackathon, maybe it's the combination of sound design and visual feedback.
That game that really takes the crown is Ori and the Blind Forest, the soundtrack alone holds its own as a stand-alone album, even if you won't play the game, do listen to the music. the graphics, gameplay and pacing are all top-notch too. It takes eight hours to beat at worst, so not a huge time sink.
>>53845766
>not really a better deal in battery powered amps
what's the better deal then?
>>53845650
No problem, Anon.
>>53846083
>Diablo 3, only in a Cthulhu meets Van Helsing flavor.
>plenty of both immersion and presence, maybe it's the combination of sound design and visual feedback.
>soundtrack alone holds its own as a stand-alone album
Damn, i'm sold! Sounds like the exact kind of game i'd lose several weeks with.
What USB-DAC should I get?
recently ordered pic related (FiiO K5)
the only DAC FiiO makes has no USB-Input.
Only coax and optical. (only USB-powered)
I need a DAC that I can connect via USB.
Any thoughts?
>>53846404
I recently bought the sabre dac and it works for me,it removes background noise, simple as. It cost me £40, it's tiny but it works.
>like my dick
>>53846839
pic related
I ordered XB950's but i saw you guys replying good about HD518's and i was considering which one to get. Did i make a mistake?
>>53846325
The music of both games is very chill, in GD it makes for a compliment with the gameplay by preventing it from getting overbearing with the grimdark, although it's not terribly inspired on its own.
In Ori, the combination of orchestra and ethnic instruments makes for very inspiring music, here's some of my favorite tracks, although most of the OST is solid:
http://youtu.be/wnB4mFmlaCM
http://youtu.be/TO2Dvgkaf8k
http://youtu.be/9wQ_BQHmV3A
http://youtu.be/cx06VKCP8z0
http://youtu.be/WwN1MEjUeGk
>>53846839
>>53846885
I have two sabre DACs, one small one and one the same size as yours that's asynchronous. Best bang for buck DACs IMO.
>>53847073
Nice, why do people buy expensive dacs?
I don't actually get it.
>>53847013
ah, now i remember why i didnt take hd518's . Because of that stupid adapter and they are open back..
>>53847113
They probably believe that all components in a chain need to be equally expensive, even though it should start expensive at the ears and go down in price from there; the source doesn't matter at all as long as you're using reasonable compression.
got a new job, got bank, need headphones and some sort of headphone amp I guess. I don't know this shit please bear with me senpai. These will be for use at work, at a desk
>Budget: $500
>Location: USA
>Source smartphone: Google Play Music
>Preferred type of headphone: big, over ear, big big
>Open or closed: closed (office setting)
>Comfort level: maximum, will be wearing 6+ hours a day
>Preferred tonal balance: shrug, I like muh bass
>Preferred music: electronic, instrumental EDM, rock, industrial, synthpop
>Past headphones: Sennheiser HD202 (current cheapos), Sony MDR V700 (used with a stereo receiver, uncomfortable for long wear)
I want to spend $500 max on headphones and an amp I can connect to my phone, what do
>>53847353
dt770 and an o2 amp?
>>53841520
so glad i didn't spend 150€ on them
>Budget: 150 euro
>Location: Netherlands
>Source: Phone, sansa clip, (magni 2 at home but wont be using it here often)
>Preferred type of headphone: full sized
>Open or closed: closed
>Comfort level: High
>Preferred tonal balance: bassy
>Preferred music: no preferred genre
>Past headphones: currently own hd650 and
beyerdynamics custom one pro's, but I got a good offer for the beyers so I want to replace them with something else. Looking for fun headphones for long Public transport rides
>>53845382
HA-SZ2000
>>53846839
"like my dick"
>kek
Just read some reviews on the sabre.
Looks good. I'll gie it a try.
Thanks man.
>>53847272
>the source doesn't matter
pleb noob
I have this in my galaxy s5
audiophile confirmed
>>53849093
kek.
>>53848984
No problem m8, you can actually get an even smaller version than the pic I posted and that only costs £30, the difference is that it only does 16 bit max instead of 24 like mine. I should have bought the smaller one thinking about it.
I'm trying to use:
http://noaudiophile.com/DSP_Corrections/Micca_MB42x.php
To apply the update/fix for my MB42x's and I cannot get it to work properly. I have REW, but I get a "no input mixers available supporting PCM_SIGNED 48000.hz 16 bit streo 4 bytes/frame - this can occur with built in soundcards, if nothing is plugged into the input, make sure the input you wish to use has something connected into it"
So then I research it some and it says to tell it what to use under preferences, which doesn't fix anything as it doesn't seem to work.
What am I fucking up?
>>53839194
Does anyone else use DT770 250 ohm headphones with a phone? I use them with my S5, and it does not seem to have any issue powering them, I can't really notice much of a difference in audio quality.
>>53849256
Maybe check your sound card settings, see if it's set to 48kHz.
>>53849366
Alternatively, if you can't get your sound card to do 48kHz, set the sample rate in your program to 42kHz.
>>53839194
Guys is there any point in selecting 24bit 48000 or should I stick with 16bit?
So whats the scam behind this?
>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/248983394/ossic-x-the-first-3d-audio-headphones-calibrated-t
>>53849615
>those pads
>>53840209
snek oil
>>53849256
A hunch, disable all other audio devices in the Windows sound devices except for the one input and one output required for REW. Restart REW as it doesn't recognize new sound devices being added on the fly too well.
>>53849256
I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FUCK I'M DOING WITH THESE FUCKING PROGRAMS. ALL THE GUIDES ARE DATED, I WAS MISSING THE MIC TO RUN IT.
NOW I JUST DON'T FUCKING UNDERSTAND THE GOAL OF THIS OR HOW TO DO IT. THE SPEAKERS SOUND WORSE THAN MY OLD SHITTY CREATIVE ONES
>>53849615
actually seems kind of legit. If I was into VR I'd definitely be paying attention to those for the headtracking
>>53849936
Well, what do you want to do? You don't need REW to apply EQ. I don't think REW can apply EQ even. You can plot it on measurements and maybe use it for the sine sweep(maybe, haven't tried) but if you want to fix your Micca's response, you should just load that EQ into EQ APO.
>>53850034
I don't know how to do that, and I'm realizing how fucking muffled and terrible the micca sound. Honestly, I'm just really fucking mad about how difficult this is and how poor quality the speakers are. I'm comparing them against my creatives and audio technicas currently and they sound extremely muddy/muffled.
>>53850012
Yeah, but there is no '3D' audio content for it and it just seems like it would be extrapolated. Having 4 shitty drivers in each cup makes it the same as any shitty gaming headset with multiple drivers. This is a rehoused gaming headset for the masses. They seem to retail for around 300 and that will be divided into several components such as the 8 drivers, head tracking sensors, some sort of micro board to control everything, housing, accessories, packaging, and whatever else they decided to add. That's a combination for disaster.
>>53850210
oh i totally forgot to add:
>BOOMLESS MICROPHONE ARRAY
>>53850179
>I don't know how to do that
Do you have EQ APO installed?
>>53850297
Yes, the guide talks about going into the config files and changing them? But I don't understand how to do that. I don't even understand how I'm supposed to change the calibrations on the EQ filter tab - following the config tutorial link.
>>53847399
o2 is overkill for the dt770
>>53850344
If you just want to apply the equalization for your Miccas, you don't need anything else than EQ APO and the EQ presets provided in that article on noaudiophile. Copy and paste the filter into a text file. Open EQ APO, hit the green "+" -sign, choose "Control" -> "Include" and navigate into this text file you just created. Make sure this file you loaded is enabled and applied to the correct output device. Should look like pic related. Right there I have multiple EQ presets for different devices but I've only enabled the one for Miccas and the output device is shown up top.
>>53850625
How much of an improvement is this? The bananas are EXTREMELY lose in the back, so I just packed it all up to send it back.
I don't mind unpacking it to test it if it's a HUGE improvement, but they sound like absolute ass without it.
>>53850616
True but the only obvious alternative is the e10k and the o2 actually sounds better than the e10k despite what people on here would have you believe. I would have recommended the e10k but this guy wants to spend big, so why not.
>>53850666
Then don't recommend at DT770, those are shit tier. The only good DTs around that price are the 880, both 770 and 990 are dogshit that will destroy your ears if you still have good hearing.
>>53850644
I don't have the Miccas so I don't know and can't test it properly. The EQ is fairly big so I'd say it's definitely a noticeable improvement. I know my EQ setups for loudspeakers were considerable updates once properly done.
>>53850666
The e10k DAC is exactly the same as the ODAC and the AMP is almost 100% neutral. What's so different about the O2?
>>53850703
What exactly am I copying for the presets?
>>53850723
The filters.
>>53850691
Fair enough, I don't know much about closed headphones and that's why I put a question mark after my suggestion, i'm correct on the amp front though.
>>53850739
>>53850723
>>53850703
I appreciate the help, I'm just going to return it. The loose-shallow plugs in the back is obnoxious and having to work on it this much really dissuades me from them. I know it is probably a very easy fix for someone experienced but it's a lot for me.
I should just find a pair that are plug in and solid, because those were absolute fucking ass out of the box, which is insane.
>>53850792
Grab a pair of JBL LSR305 then unless you want to spend even more. Getting loudspeakers sound great in a room gets tricky but in near field setup an accurate pair of monitors can sound good.
>>53849936
>THE SPEAKERS SOUND WORSE THAN MY OLD SHITTY CREATIVE ONES
Should have bought the LSR305. Return those
>>53850827
Thanks, I will check those out. I am in a 1 bedroom apartment and I'm not an audiophile, so I was expecting something better. I'm just using them next to my dual monitor set up for personal use.
>>53850718
I have said this multiple times over the last couple weekends which are when I usually come here, I own both and the o2 actually sounds better. I'm no expert but it seems to show more detail when using my 702', the e10k sounds more dull. Me and my brother did a blindfold test and I could tell which was which after 5 fucking seconds of the same gay song we tested whilst being blind folded, no bias, no bullshit. the o2 sounds SLIGHTLY better, but saying that, all of the audio differences are slight when you get to a certain point.
I didn't buy it for an audio upgrade, I bought it because I needed more volume for my midi keyboard and it turns out that it actually sounds better. I'm happy about that and I have no reason to lie, people on here don't like this information for some reason.
>>53850913
>whilst being blind folded
Did you kiss?
>>53850878
>>53850827
Looks like it'd be 270 for 2. I'll look into them though, the reviews are wonderful and they seem very simple. Thanks.
>>53850937
A little bit.
Let me guess, an e10k owner?
>>53850964
No but I want to buy an dac/amp and I'm very inclined to buy the e10k. They're just 90€ while the odac+o2 is like 300€
>>53850983
Ok well I would honestly say that you should buy the e10k, my o2 sounds slightly better than the e10k even with no amp but the price difference is huge. Pic related is my setup. Like I said i bought the o2 in order to get more volume for my midi keyboard which is slightly quiet with my music program for some reason. I bought the dac afterwards for £40 so overall yes it's a lot more and that's why I recommend the e10k. The e10k is fucking brilliant for what it is but the o2 sounds slightly better, even my normie brother could hear the difference straight away.
>>53851083
> my o2 sounds slightly better than the e10k even with no amp
I meant to say dac, my o2 is an amp only and costs less than half of what the amp+dac costs. I use a £40 sabre dac along side it.
>>53851150
I don't understand this. The DAC is the same
>>53839976
>not using PNG's Not Gif
>>53851217
Like I said i'm no expert but the o2 sounds slightly cleaner and more full, the e10k sounds a touch dull (although great when not compared to the o2) I am an honest man, The o2 is a lot of money and I didn't buy it for an audio upgrade, it just turns out that it actually makes my 702's sound slightly better, I couldn't tell you why though.
>>53846404
I like my Monoprice DAC/AMP.
http://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-111567-Desktop-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B00KVVX2QW
>this thread
Fucking autists, all of you.
Reeeee xD
>>53851326
>makes my 702's sound slightly better, I couldn't tell you why though.
The 702 are a beast to drive, maybe that's why. I'm guessing they sound practically the same on easy to drive headphones like the DT770 32ohm, with the o2 having a very tiny edge
>>53851326
I know why. It's the onboard placebo generator chip. Makes a huge difference, but only if you look closely for it.
Hi. I hope I'm not posting in the wrong thread by asking this, but does anyone know some really good pc speakers I can get which aren't insanely priced ($500~$1000+). I'll use it for listening to music while doing my work, but I can't seem to find a good pair that isn't low quality shit.
>>53851365
That's what i'm thinking, maybe the o2s are fully powering the 702's, the way they should be.
The other day someone on here mentioned that my amp was overkill for my 702's and the e10k+702 do seem to be a popular combination, I can see why since that was my first real audio setup and are fantastic for the money.
>>53851412
Two people doing blind fold tests carefully with no indicator as to which amp they're listening to, or which computer/laptop they're connected to whilst listening to the same song that is new to the both of them and we could both hear the difference after 5-10 seconds.
Clearly audiophile delusion, you fucking prat.
>>53839601
shit tier taste
>go to the wiki stickied in the OP
>read that mic headsets are bad
>look at what it recommends to buy
>a fucking headset with a mic
Why are you all so god damn contrarian all the time, can't get a single good recommendation from this board without everybody memeing it up.
>>53839194
Should I buy these, the K702 or something else? Not very interested in sennheisers, I've heard they're too veiled and I want clean, neutral sound but I don't want very bright without any bass like the AD700
>>53851928
I'd like to point out that I'm from europe so a 7XX or Q701 is out of the question (too expensive)
>>53851928
Fellow eurofag here,I was considering those.
Went for T20RP Mk3s with mods instead because I like muh DIY. No idea how they compare, but knowing /g/ I'm gonna get called out for having made a shit choice.
>>53851928
if you dont want sens then yes, you will need a good amp to drive it though
i´m going to buy one msr7 would i need an amp to drive it?
>>53851928
They look nicer but the 702's are technically better from what I understand.
>Budget
$100-$250
>Location
USA
>Source
Xperia z3c
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-Ear
>Open or closed
closed preferfable
>Comfort level
4hrs+
>Preferred tonal balance
>Preferred music
hiphop/edm/pop
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 280 Pro, Sony NWZWS610
looking for bt (aptx) headphones for long bus commute and don't want to deal with wires, also my phone's headphone jack is fucked up and don't really want to deal with having it repaired
Any help?
>Budget
50-80 Dollars
>Location
California
>Source
Smartphone
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Not a big deal.
>Preferred music
Alternative
>>53839194
While this question isnt exactly about headphones, it is about audio electronics.
So I bought a diy pre-amp kit from aliexpress for soldering practice and threw it together, and it works, but there seems to be a bit of a problem.
When I plug it in and run it, once the tubes initialize (about 3-15 seconds of warming) they emit a regular "popping" sound. Similar to what I imagine a capacitor discharging would sound like. But it takes so long for the pops (again, about once every second. [could it be related to the 60hz ac input?]
Here are the posts in /ohm/ on /diy/ I made in order:
>>>/diy/971922
>>>/diy/972086
>>>/diy/972121
Link to video showing problem: https://youtu.be/i7esqS-ysZw
Thanks in advance for any help!
boy i love my hd650s
>>53850913
>>53851083
>>53851326
Christ sakes can't you just. Shuush.
Stop giving advice unless five or more /hpg/ regulars also own E10K and O2s.
You're starting to annoy me too Mr. Me And My Brother.
I own the older E10 and O2. So there you go now, that's two people /hpg/ that own both. They do sound slightly different. But the haters are ignorant.
You own both and paid with your money. You should stop giving honest subjective opinions because they hate it and let the haters bicker over memes.
Until there's scientific evidence of it being better, it's best you keep your experience to yourself untill you get more anons who also own both.
Instead of repeating yourself over and over and getting haters.
>>53853072
K553 pro
>>53851928
go for the K702 or K7XX
I'm thinkin' about purchasing a pair of Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro headphones (80 Ohm version). Do these still stand up well today or is there a better closed-back headphone now for around the same price (~$200 USD)?
>>53853688
I have the 250 ohms and I love them. I use them with my phone and my computer.
>>53853734
Okay awesome that makes me more confident. I only have a FiiO E10K dac/amp so I don't think I can quite push 250, but other than specs I really like the look of them. I'm a sucker for the color gray.
whats a good usb mic i can get for under 40 bucks?
>>53853855
I like my samson gomic.
>>53851555
Anything short of a statistically-significant ABX result is useless in substantiating claims of perceived difference.
Went to a local headphone store the other day to try piston 3.0, then someone introduced Radius nef11 which i also found rather good. Now I am pretty torn between 2 in-ears. On one hand the Piston got good cable and is android compatible, on the other hand I am leaning toward Nef11's sound and its small housing. I am looking for a phone for exercising.
also quick small greentext story
>was A/Bing 2 inears
>some kid and his dad walked into store
>kid is probably is 15 or 16
>he brought his HD 598
>the way they talk to store clerks, it seems like they visited the store before
>kid asked to try a tube amp which i belive to be a Schiit Vali 2
>at this point I stopped giving a shit to continue A/Bing
>they were talking about something something more expensive stuff = beter sound something which made the store clerks (all of them) giggle and smirk
>Leave the store before kid and his dad
Didnt get to hear the full story but i guess the kid got meme'd on the internet or something. I heard HD598 doesn't need amping, does it?
>>53855533
Click the youtube link and watch it for a minute >>53840209
You need a solid state amp first before you add a tube amp to your collection.
>>53851928
K712 pro and K7XX are the most perfected AKG phones literally nothing else is worth your time don't listen to any of these idiots recommending Quincy Jones or K702 non anniversary
>>53853414
>>53856557
>>53856599
That is, unless you enjoy the subtleties and nuances of your ear drums being raped by sounds that closely resemble shattering glass.
>Budget
no more than $300
>Location
US
>Source
shit thinkpad
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
not a tight grip as i have glasses
>Preferred tonal balance
it's important for them not to have that nausea-inducing bass ghetto cars have as they go down the street. i like cleaner, less car-shaking bass.
>Preferred music
dnb / electronic / lesbian folk pop
> I tried some sennheiser stuff and it sounded awful. I'm told that beyerdynamic and shure is good for EDM and the like. I don't honestly feel like fucking around with amplifiers,
Got my first measurement done, trying to get my head around REW though.
>>53856599
I think if there's any headphones worthy of being classified as "boring as fuck", it'd be those or the AD900s
>>53856685
(Lowered it after taking the photo)
Not the best setup I got going right now. Next step is making a coupler to do headphones.
![RUNLkW9[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XBMBfYu.jpg "RUNLkW9[1].jpg")
>typical fostex elitist on r/headphones
>>53857217
That's not even elitist, just some autistic permavirgin who stole his dads cognac for a photo.
>>53857217
Reminder that it is the Massdrop/Reddit community that has caused Fostex to create meme purpleheart and mahogony headphones instead of spending time and money engineering a competent headphone.
>>53856685
>>53856728
Pretty standard in-room measurements for loudspeakers. I might be able to help out with some stuff in REW if you have problems. It has some bugs and in some features the logic is odd.
>>53857217
I've tried lurking and posting there. Most of the stuff is just "look what came in the mail" with million upbloats and the people looking for advice are given the most retarded recommendations backed up by ridiculous audiophile claims.
>>53857373
I've just been trying to work out good window settings, etc.
One question I do have though is how you get it to generate a DSP correction file for EQAPO or another Parametric EQ.
>>53857457
>One question I do have though is how you get it to generate a DSP correction file for EQAPO or another Parametric EQ.
Manual work, no way to automate that iirc. Measure and correct with EQ APO and repeat the process as many times as needed. For loudspeakers do it one loudspeaker at the time. Room modes are weird.
>>53857373
There seem to be a couple of pretty objective guys with great comments on measurements on psychoacoustics. They don't get much upvotes because of the butthurt there though. Gets boring after a while.
Are there any IEM's with sturdier build quality than the SHURE SE215 for around the same price? I was recommended them based on durability and build quality. How about sound? what are they like
>>53857767
BASS BASS BASS BASS BASS BASS BASS BASS BASS BASS BASS BASS BASS BASS BASS BASS BASS BASS BASS BASS BASS
>>53857710
Yes that's how it usually is there. I don't personally care about votes but it was quite funny to see get myself downvoted and ridiculed for questioning the importance of amplifier topology (mostly Class A vs anything else) and the idea of upgrading DA-converters for improvements in sound quality.
Is ~$40 a good target price for IEMs? Struggling to choose. Looking for something warm or neutral with good isolation. I recently got JBL LSR305s and have been using Sennheiser HD 485s and am quite happy with both. Just want to replace the creative earphones I had with their shitty harsh highs. Leaning toward Soundmagic E30, I think - Maybe Etynmolic Kids-5.
>>53857835
>JBL LSR305s
How's the bass? Do I really need a sub for those? My room is relatively small and I don't have space for sub
>>53857835
Ety Kids is really nice but could be harsh. MK5 is better but about 20 bucks more expensive. Ety Kids with MC5 filters seem to offer extreme value by being really close to ER-4S sound wise.
>>53857835
>Etymotic
They might have good sound but god damn it's like having a 20 inch dick inside your hear.
Please, is there nothing else besides this brand? I don't care if it's worse sounding
>>53857904
Don't Ety's come with foam tips as well?
>>53857881
I flipped the bass switch up a bit and am quite happy with it. Unless you're listening to drum n bass or somesuch I dont think a sub is necessary.
>>53857904
>20 inch dick
kek
>>53857814
I thought the butthurt when some guy questioned CSDs and audibility of ringing was even more hillarious. He cited Toole (who cited several controlled studies) and there were placebophiles who disagreed based on >muh subjective experience.
>>53857767
anyone? anyone??
>>53857988
Thanks for the upvote!
>>53857904
If you don't care if it sounds worse, there's everything else.
>>53857949
Not all do.
>>53858041
m8 don't you know if there's a big red ridge in CSD it's going to be audible and sound bad.
>>53857767
RHA MA750
>>53858131
> anything besides etymeme sounds the same
Not shilling at all
>>53858131
It all started because of fucking purrin trying to grasp at straws and correlate the ridges with audibility
Another post I really like was how someone completely dismantled Mike Moffat's Yggdrasil claims using psychoacoustics and showed how a Yggy fanboy was a biased liar making physiologically-impossible claims. That was immensely satisfying to see.
>>53858207
>post on SBAF
>don't own Schiit gear, Eddie Current gear or HD6x0
>never get le upvotes
>>53858224
To be fair, HD6x0 is based as fuck from a FR perspective. Pretty bad in subbass strictly speaking, but otherwise excellent.
Magni 2 and Modi 2 are decent values, everything else is overhyped trash.
However, Eddie Current typifies the cottage industry hacks that are holding the hobby back.
>>53858350
>Eddie Current typifies the cottage industry hacks that are holding the hobby back.
i still don't understand why they think there's a benefit to hand-soldering all the connections and not using any PCBs in 2016.
>>53855533
Which country did you listen to radius nef11?
>>53858207
>>Another post I really like was how someone completely dismantled Mike Moffat's Yggdrasil claims using psychoacoustics and showed how a Yggy fanboy was a biased liar making physiologically-impossible claims. That was immensely satisfying to see.
sauce?
>>53858450
https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/48dhsq/well_after_two_years_of_interest_in_this_hobby/d0kek8s?context=3
Guy is pretty based, from the numerous other smackdowns he lays on the placebophile retards.
Which full sized opens have a similar sig to SE535?
>>53857767
IM70 maybe.
>>53858139
Didn't say that.
>>53858670
Some Audezes, LCD-2 for example.
>>53857904
>They might have good sound but god damn it's like having a 20 inch dick inside your hear.
I have short ear canals. I don't see your point.
>Please, is there nothing else besides this brand? (Etymotic)
VSonic VSD3S or LG Quadbeat 3 tuned by AKGs.
Etys are not to be recommended to people starting out in their audiophile journey. Inexperienced people want bass. For example. Somebody owns a M50X or a Sony MDR1A and love how bassy it is, and then they try a Ety and it sounds not as fun to their ears.
Experienced people that know that they want neutral FR then buy EK5, MK5, HF5 Etys because it's cheap or that other ER4 because they know all about it and it's a niche product for them.
I'll be sarcastic here. Yes. It's a ear rape meme. Do not buy one. You won't like it because you're just starting out.
>>53858770
I'm not even complaining about the sound quality but how deep they go inside the hear. It's just uncomfortable
>>53858770
Elitism like this shitpost is what gives the audio pastime its bad name. Pretty much:
>You don't like what I like because you are inferior/inexperienced.
>>53858365
No benefits, obviously. Cost efficiency in small manufacturing yields maybe and the fact they can advertise it as hand made.
>>53858835
Also,
>using exotic topologies of dubious benefit
It is never the tried-and-tested circuits that sound best, only the obscure ones. They were obscure for a reason: outcompeted by superior topologies that did more for less cost.
>Budget
200e max
>Location
Slovenia, buying from amazon.de, mindfactory.de , ebay.com
>Source
Asrock z97 extreme 4 motherboard, getting a dac isnt out of the question
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
They will be used for hours at a time so they should at least not make my ears hurt (will be used for gaming too)
>Preferred tonal balance
Dont really know
>Preferred music
Mostly rock and metal, a lot of stuff i listen too also has orchestral soundtracks (bands i like: nightwish, wintersun, ghost, led zeppelin...)
>Past headphones
Plantronics gamecom 780 and Akg k 404 i like them both but the akg ones make my ears hurt after like an hour of use. Haven lostened to any better headphones i could compare them too
Ive been looking at audi technica ath 500/900
>>53851928
How expensive are the phillips fidelio X2 and the Hifiman 400S in your country?
I have the X2 it has a fair amount of upper bass, perhaps too much for your liking.
Sadly I have nothing else to compare them to at the moment, might grab a more neutral headphone at some point in the future with less bass, more concise mids and treble for around the same price.
I wish everyone would just design their headphones with a 3.5mm connector to save me the trouble of having to splice the wires and solder in a connector.
Makes life easier when switching headphones by using the same cable.
>>53858968
X2 is 240€ with shipping
400s is about 360€ with shipping.
I have to import from Amazon, there's nothing in my country. The K612 is 127€ with shipping and the K702 is about 170
My dac/amp is an e10k
>>53856557
>>53853414
Can't get those. They're way, way too expensive. I asked about the 612 and 702 because they're under 200€
>>53852576
In what way are they better? Frequency charts show that the 612 is flatter with more bass around the 70-120hz and less piercing treble
>>53851994
I have an e10k. Is it good enough?
>>53851983
Aren't those semi-open? How's the soundstage?
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGK612.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGK702.pdf
Correct me if I'm wrong, but these charts show that the K702 has more bass than the K612. Is this true? There are no other graphs to compare both
>>53859095
i've only heard the k612, but it has solid, linear bass.
>>53859206
>inb4leddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/2dzf9q/akg_k612_pro_back_on_massdrop/cjumcw2
Thing guy says that the K612 feel more anemic compared to the K601 which in turn had less bass than the 702.
>>53856672
K553 pro
>Budget
100-200€
>Location
Europe
>Source
MasterRace, android/iPhone, piano.
>Preferred type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
To use at home
>Comfort level
~4hrs
>Preferred music
Electronic | House | BSO
Something like Run Boy Run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmc21V-zBq0
>>53853308
But i'm right and I don't care about the 'haters', I only come here on weekends if i'm drinking, like I give a fuck about this place.
I'm simply letting people know that the o2 amp sounds better than the e10k with the 702's.
You're all so intelligent with your graphs, mocking places like head fi and audiophiles but you can't even hear the clear difference between the amps, not (you) but nearly everyone else who gets triggered by me.
>>53859742
E10k measurement isn't even out. They just parroting Nwavguy measurement about E10.
>>53859031
Soundstage on the Fostex, I was pleasantly surprised. It's not huge, but it's not all RIGHT INSIDE YOUR SKULL AND NO FURTHER either.
It needs new pads to be comfortable though, and if you put new pads of your choice on, you're most likely gonna have to do some modding to get it to sound good again.
>>53859268
akg is never shilled enough so i can't tell how much of a meme this is ; but the reviews on it are kinda nice. I'll add it to my things-to-attempt-to-try-at-a-hifishop list
>>53856672
MSR7, kinda clampy tough. But you can always stretch the headband to loose it. Otherwise less clampier option, MDR-1A. But its bassy, you can EQ'd down easily though.
>>53859742
>difference between the amps, not (you)
I'm the same person you replied to. I have O2+ODAC and Shit Stack 2 Ubers. I can clearly hear the difference. They are not the same. Everyone that doesn't own both goes blurghblurghblurghblur "both amps sound saem."
They are like brother and sister. The brother being the O2 being scientifically neutral and the sister which is a brighter Schiit (Or "Shit" if you want to insult it that way) which did had scientific measurements but it's gone now. I can hear it sound different on the flipside. They both compliment each other.
O2+ODAC sounds warmer, Schiit Stack sounds cleaner or some shit. Both have different bass sounds. I'm happy with both and I don't feel like splurging moneys for a new amp anytime yet. Unless I hear the difference.
>>53859883
>O2+ODAC sounds warmer,
then it's by definition shit because it's coloring the signal
>>53859883
Well there you go, i'm guessing that the e10k is slightly worse than both of your amp+dacs and obviously the price reflects that. It must be e10k owners in denial, or maybe they use shit headphones with the e10k that don't really need powering.
>>53859913
Not him but let me tell you that the o2 does not sound warmer than the e10k, it sounds more rich and cleaner if anything.
>>53859452
K612 + fiio e10k
>>53859452
HD 558 because it has smooth and fairly neutral frequency response, comfortable and doesn't need an amplfiier. You can drive it from various of devices just fine including those you listed.
>>53858950
HD 558 here too.
>>53860052
> k612
> electronic/house
>>53860193
>headphones for genre meme
Not that the rec was great either.
>>53860052
>>53860123
>>53860140
thanks, I think that HD 558 are a good deal. ¿Do u use foam mod?
>>53860396
I personally don't use those headphones but the foam mod doesn't necessarily even have an effect on the response. It likely doesn't hurt and it's a reversible mod so you might aswell.
Is "burning headphones in" a myth? I just got new cans and they sound a bit worse than expected. do i need to somehow burn them in?
