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>>53752231
What's up with all the AKG hate as of late? These (Q701, K702, K612, etc.) are as neutral as neutral can be - for the price
Is it because of Zeos bashing the K612 that this new wave of haters has arrived, or made their voice be heard when otherwise would have remained silent?
>>53774040
No bass, peaky highs, and iffy upper midrange? NEUTRAL xD
What are the comfiest IEMs, /hpg/? The ones that I have right now drill into my ear when I'm lying on my side.
My Porta Pros cable is all tangly. Is there a way to straighten it without pulling or tugging it? Will using a clothes iron do the job? I don't want to go with it as I think it'll melt.
Which mic/headphone jacks are the best to use? Front or back of the computer?
>>53774040
i think is only one guy, chech the pastebin about the "Belgian shitposter"
>>53774040
>bright is now neutral
well memed friendo
>>53774327
I was not talking about the AD700
what does this "belgian shitposter" have against akg? i love akg
>>53774525
no bass
piercing trebles
tinny sound
sounds like you're talking on mobile phone
Those Fostex massdrop headphones vs the Shure 1540's?
Are they comparable?
>>53774571
> buying closed headphones
>>53774547
then just don't buy them if you hate them so much. why do you feel the need to spam here how much you hate them? it's well known by now that you hate akg so your opinion is obviously biased and hence not worth considering.
i don't know anything about sound or anything but could you guys just like rec me a headset with high quality sound, for music especially for under 100+ dollars that I can order in europe
![hifiman-he-400i-planar-magnetic-headphones-group-lg[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wCCa8sC.jpg "hifiman-he-400i-planar-magnetic-headphones-group-lg[1]")
loving these 400i's famalam
recommend me headphones up to 100$
need decent bass
probably will just use them to listen to music but i might wanna mix/master something on them ocasionally
Post EQs. Don't care which headphone or earphone. Just post them.
>>53774571
as far as I know, shure only makes neutral monitor headphones
x00 are not neutral or monitor whatsoever
>>53774758
Mdr 7506
>>53774040
Never had problems with AKG, would gladly add a k702 or one of it's siblings to my collection.
>>53774276
What i usually do to make a cable straight is to leave it hanging over night, if the weight of the cable alone is not enought you can use a piece of thread and strap it to a small weight so it hangs flat.
>>53774758
headset as in "headphone + mic" or just headphones?
MDR7506 is a very durable option.
Your opinion on which headphones should I get to replace my aging AKG K701 between :
K7xx, DT880, DT990, something else
I'll make a template for it:
>Budget
About 200€
>Location
Europe, France
>Source
ODAC+O2
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-size
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Comfy, AKG K701 is my benchmark here, DT770 is fine as well although it's closed
>Preferred tonal balance
Mostly neutral, but I don't mind something a bit bass-heavier, but definitely not bass heavy.
>Preferred music
Pretty much whatever honestly. But overall I think I'll use it the most for gayman.
>Past headphones
AKG K701, but also K550 which I use in the train.
>>53774970
Does pic related counts?
>>53774864
Cool, what do you like the most about it?
>>53775533
The dt880 match your description
>>53774590
> Leaking your shitty anime music everywhere
>>53774040
AKG?
No thanks.
Opinions? Thinking about buying a pair just because they're so cheap and look fantastic.
>>53775672
Wouldn't the K7xx fit the bill also ?
The detachable cable is kind of a selling point for me over the 880.
>>53775545
It counts.
>>53774970
I'm using this for a HJE120. I'm not done with the EQ yet. I randomly did it. I'll tune it by ear some more later. I wanna beat my Piston 3s EQ.
>>53775944
the 880 is more neutral with more bass then the k701, the k7xx have more bass then the 880, the k7xx looks more warm to me, if you want something more different then the k701 in the bass region then the k7xx
>>53775533
If you have money for a DT880 i wouldn't go for a DT990 as it's rather strong v-shape, also, imho the K702 is better for gaming than the DT880, that's up for debate since it's subjective, but i just think the positional accuracy on the DT880 isn't that great, the bass on it however is very nice, explosions sound great on the DT880.
Comfort wise, does you k701 have bumps on the headband? imo:
Bumpless k702 > DT880 > original k702
>>53776187
My K701 had the bump, yes. I don't mind them much actually, so that's why I have no problem with it at all comfort-wise.
>>53776168
I don't exactly get what you're saying. Are you saying the 880 is more neutral overall, and has more bass than the K701, or that the bass is louder than on the K701, making it more neutral as a whole ?
>>53773556
UNTIL U PLAY UR LIFE AWAY
>>53776240
K701 is a bright headphone. 702 is more neutral
>>53775931
Cheap?
>Budget
~20-50 USD
>Location
Los Angeles, California
>Source
Any
>Preferred type of headphone
w/e
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy enough to leave them on my ears for hours.
>Preferred tonal balance
Eh.
>Preferred music
Mostly metal and electronic.
>Past headphones
Urbanears or whatever they're called.
>>53776240
yes, and the k7xx has even more bass
>150€
>Finland
>PC, just on-board audio
>Over-ear
>Closed
>Comfy enough to be worn for hours at a time
ATH-M50X or something else?
So I've been reading through the wiki and been thinking about the Sony MDR-V6. Two questions:
1. Everyone keeps mentioning how it's used for studio work, is it suited for just casually listening to music?
2. What are the differenced to the MDR-7506?
Is there something like dt990, portable and closed?
I got ath m50x today and was very disappointed in them.
>>53776403
1. is neutral hence if you make music you will hear it like you want it and other people should also, being neutral is not "fun" so it can be plain if you casually ear music.
2. Both are made with the same parts, they are only grounded differently, the differences are very minimal so just buy the one that is cheaper (almost always is the 7506)
>>53776403
>is it suited for just casually listening to music?
It will work just fine since it's mostly neutral, problem is, some people think it's too bright, you could fix that with a Eq if that's the case for you.
>differenced to the MDR-7506
Aside from a few different metals used on the exact same parts and the blue stripe there should be no difference, in fact there's a bit of controversy since there are not many measurements of both made by the same source for comparison, but even among those who think the sound is different it's a consensus that it's not that different.
In general we just suggest that people go for whichever is the cheaper option where they live.
On a side note: although the v6/7506 is very durable, the pads get worn rather fast, you might want alternative pads for it, such as the Auray Sheep Skin pads.
is the dt770 a upgrade from the 7506 or should i just keep my money?
>>53776321
Poor fag
Why do people buy open-back headphones?
If you are in a private, quiet room by yourself then a good speaker system is objectively better.
If you're literally anywhere else then background noise will ruin your music's detail and closed back headphones are objectively better.
I bought the 7506 as per recommendations a week back but these sound really.. off?
What are some good headphones under £100 that aren't so detailed and neutral sounding? Preferably not studio monitor
>>53776363
Indeed, looking at the Headroom graphs, it does seem to be bass-heavy if we consider it closer-sounding to the K712 than to the K701.
That said, I don't know exactly what is the optimal curve, so I can't really tell which one is supposed to be the best.
>>53776668
games.
>>53776579
The DT770 may be very sibilant and plain painful depending on the ears and type of music you hear.
>>53776668
You could use a speaker at night but you'll get noise complaints.
>>53776668
Because :
1) I live in an appartment, speakers would make me an enemy out of all of my neighbours.
2) I use a microphone for VoIP, so speakers would be really dreadful for that use.
>>53776668
>If you are in a private, quiet room by yourself then a good speaker system is objectively better.
I live in a flat. Not gonna turn on my speakers at night, I thought it was pretty obvious. Also for playing games where position is critical they also help a lot
>>53776668
>background noise will ruin your music's detail
and save your life since you can hear stuff comming in your direction.
>>53776363
>>53776730
As far as I'm aware, in terms of bass it goes like this
K712 > K7XX > Q701 > K612 > K702 > K701
The K712 has too much bass while the K7XX has a pretty good amount.
>>53776730
for neutral? is better if the frequencies doesnt peak more than 5db from the center, the k712 are more warm than neutral, and i think the k7xx are in between, what i saw is that the k7xx long curve ends on 2khz and you will have to increase the db on 3khz and 5khz to make them more neutral
>>53776854
yeah i say that the k7xx are warm-neutral of some shit
>>53776911
> my literal face when the K7XX are 200$ at massdrop but I live in Portugal and importing them would raise the total cost to 300$ or more
>>53776982
>Be BR
>Economy goes to hell in two years
>>53774040
Criticism =! hate and it's kind of expected here after the rampant shilling that took place in recent months.
I don't see them being neutral on any target and they certainly don't sound neutral. There are also more balanced and neutral headphones to be had for less money than those are.
Who cares about Zeos?
>>53775533
I'd pick the DT880.
>>53776278
There's barely a difference.
>>53776366
Definitely not M50X if you want comfy. Try DT770 80 Ohm, St Paul's Sound has them for cheap iirc.
>>53776403
Wiki is outdated and bad. The good stuff is behind the links at the end of the articles. MDR-V6 is discontinued, MDR-7506 replaced it and it's basically identical. A good choice for a neutral/bright closed pair of headphones.
>>53776579
Update only if you prefer a V-shaped sound signature.
>>53776668
Speaker system in a room often sounds like ass unless you are in a nearfield sweet spot. Even then low frequencies go all over the place without equalization and room treatment.
Loudspeakers tend to cost more.
People living in an apartment can't blast speakers at night.
Someone might actually prefer headphone sound signature over loudspeakers.
>>53776730
Optimal curve should be flat after compensation. However these target response vary a great deal and Headroom uses an especially dumb compensation with excessive smoothing. At least they provide a raw response graph too but you'll have to understand the target curves in order to read it properly.
>>53776982
That's all of EU for anything imported outside of EU really. Just buy the K702 if it's the headphone you want.
>>53776982
Really ? I'm that guy >>53775533 and I decided myself for the K7XX. It's 225$, shipping included. That said, I'm crossing my fingers for customs not to put their greedy hands on my package since it appears massdrop doesn't handle any kind of taxes.
>>53777207
>There are also more balanced and neutral headphones to be had for less money than those are.
Can you suggest some please?
>>53776643
i'm asking for the price, i own several 300+ dollar headphones.
>>53774225
Bump.
>>53777223
>I'm crossing my fingers for customs not to put their greedy hands on my package since it appears massdrop doesn't handle any kind of taxes.
Yea, I'm very worried the price would sky rocket because of that
>>53777279
Worst case, my estimate is around 40€, since it's about what I got for a 27" screen from Korea.
It's not much of a risk in my opinion.
https://www.headphone.com/pages/build-a-graph
Is this blank for everyone else?
>>53776529
>>53776569
So far I've been listening to music mainly with in ears on the go. Could you explain in layman's terms how a neutral headphone would sound compared to that?
>>53777230
For open back, Sennheiser HD 558
For closed back, Sony MDR-7506
For in-ears, Etymotic MK5
>>53777301
Yes, use http instead of https.
>>53777301
I had the same problem in the past the same as you. Remove the s in https.
Try this
http://www.headphone.com/pages/build-a-graph
>>53776870
dat upper mid range.
![graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=2621&graphID[]=573&graphID[]=2861&scale=30.png](https://i.imgur.com/WHFySDD.png "graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=2621&graphID[]=573&graphID[]=2861&scale=30")
>>53777332
They're all so similar
>>53777332
>Etymotic MK5
do these rape your ears?
>>53777480
Ever felt a lubed up dick get deep inside your anus? It's the same thing without the lube in your ears
>>53777480
Yes very. Now. Don't ever try them or you'll know the truth that they sound good for the price. Just buy KZ or Soundmagic earphones. They sound better.
>>53777440
It's like they trade mids for highs.
>>53777440
On Headroom.
http://personalaudio.ru/raa/otchety/naushniki/sennheiser-hd-558/
http://personalaudio.ru/raa/otchety/naushniki/akg-k-702/
http://en.goldenears.net/12270
http://en.goldenears.net/8281
You can find more sites with measurements in the link in wiki.
>>53777480
Physically yes, sound wise they are amazing.
Anyone in here have kz's? I was considering the ed9 or ed10 I'm just not sure
>>53777595
All of them are the same shit. Extremely bassy, horrid QC and cheap price.
>>53777624
But it's all i can afford...
>>53777689
How much is the HJE120 where you are? All cheap in-ears are bass monsters.
>>53777574
Can i make my HD598 more neutral i just lower the giant peak on the 4-5khz like in the graphic?
I have one question. Is Koss Porta Pro the best budget headphone?
>>53777855
Yes. Best cheapest open back. Next best cheapest would be a Takstar HI2050.
>>53777855
Oh. Forgot about Superlux. You can get one from Gearbest for $18 I think. HD681. Semi-open back. Still leaks sound.
>>53777595
>>53777724
Not either of you. But I gotta agree. Bass monsters. More bassier than a bassy Piston 3.
https://audiobudget.com/data/product/Xiaomi/Huosai3.fr.png
https://audiobudget.com/data/product/KZ/ED9.fr.png
https://audiobudget.com/data/product/KZ/ED10.fr.png
>>53777725
No, don't equalize the treble region based on graphs. Listen through a logarithmic sine sweep with your headphones. Compensate for the changes in loudness using a parametric equalizer.
Judging from the measurements on personalaudio.ru, their compensation is something close to diffuse field but with the rise in upper mids/treble being considerably lower. A good anchor is the HD 650 there which measures nearly flat yet it's a warm sounding and measuring headphone on any other site.
As for the HD 598, not all of them exhibit that treble peak. It's possible that Sennheiser sneak updated/changed something over the years, the compensation used on these sites is wildly different(some definitely are) and/or the measurement couplers used behave considerably differently in that region.
http://www.sam.hi-ho.ne.jp/t-suzuki/audio_headphones/sennheiser_hd598.html
http://en.goldenears.net/8494
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD598.pdf
http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=-1&graphID[]=2851&scale=30
Grab a sine sweep, listen through it and where you hear a peak or a dip, apply EQ to make it go away. Trial and error.
>>53774970
http://pastebin.com/HsLgiWaf
>>53778087
thanks, mine are the SE so i guess i could be different. I tried to follow the wiki and i was confused, but now i think i understand
>>53778087
So on can I assume this will sound warm on any other site?
>>53778382
That'll sound very warm/bassy. Nearing 15 dB boost from bass to upper mids. The in-ear coupler they use might behave differently. I haven't bothered to look too closely into it on personalaudio.
>>53778276
Np. I'll answer more tomorrow if you have any questions.
- - -
Good night song.
https://a.uguu.se/vcbvnp.mp3
>Budget
$100
>Location
phoenix az
>Source
plug into my pc
>Preferred type of headphone
full size
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
enough to keep them on like 5 hours
>Preferred tonal balance
bassy and balanced
>Preferred music
i love drake, drake is my favorite artist of all time, any drake song.
>Past headphones
headsets, razer blackshark, chacarias, steelseries siberia, logitech headset, always headsets
>>53777253
http://www.gearbest.com/headsets/pp_168282.html?currency=USD&gclid=CNqf0ufc6csCFYwlgQodWooHsA
>>53779007
With that kind of money you can buy better headphones.
Is it worth upgrading from HD598 w/ e10k to a schiit stack and HD6X0?
I've been thinking about this for a while and finally have the funds to do it.
>tfw fidelios
Hey hopefully yall can help me out with maybe a set of speakers.
>budget
less than 250USD
>location
USA
>source
Computer
>preferred tonal balance
a bit more bass heavy
>preferred music
Black Sabbath, Apri March, Jamie XX, Ken Ishii, Nujabes
>past speakers
pic related
Are headphone/earphone cables made out of copper? Would getting them wet corrode and make the cables sound worse? I'm doing the boiling water in a cup trick to untangle these new earphones cables.
>>53774040
Zeos kiddies and the rest is just a shitposter
>>53778517
Used K553 pro or takstar pro 80
>>53779986
face it. AKG stopped being relevant long ago. Just like Ultrasone.
Budget is $300 USD. I want headphones better than Sennheiser HD558s for listening to metal and shoegaze
>>53776668
yeah fuck your roommates right why don't you steal their shit while your at it.
>>53780042
>AKG
>not relevant
lol found the belgian faggot
>>53780181
K7XX and Fiio E10K
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/akg-k7xx-massdrop-first-edition-headphones
any point upgrading to lcd-2 from hd-650?
Is the placebo peak already reached?
>>53780479
Probably hit placebo territory at that point.
Hell, I probably won't upgrade from my modded T20RP Mk3s for a long time.
>>53780479
yep.
only go higher if you're a nerd that likes the technology being implemented. audiophiles don't realize that no matter how much money you put down old man physics don't give a shit.
>>53780419
Good reviews. Am I entering placebo territory or am I going to be blown away by these?
>>53780623
don't expect a big jump honestly. it's best to lower your hopes to the absolute bare minimum before getting them so when they arrive you will be at least mildly surprised and not totally disappointed.
Not enough hifi set ups in this thread.
>>53780670
Dude bro weeb? Stop trying to be alpha.
>>53780689
Toplol
I uploaded the wrong image. I'm not a weeb. Even though this is a weeb board. I just enjoy Animu and Mango.
>>53780705
No use denying it now.
>>53780646
Really? Even from $70 to about $375 (including an amp)? Bought them used but damn son.
>>53780712
I get that this is b8, but there really is a difference between a weeb and someone who just enjoys the medium.
>>53780721
Yeah, and an amp might make your headphones sound worse if it's not a good quality one. I mean even the 558s closely match the FR of the HD600. Even cumulative spectral decay is similar between the 558 and the 600s. There will be an improvement but it's just not that huge.In regards to K7XX and 558 It mostly will come in wider soundstage a bit better imaging and instrument separation but you might dislike the upper mids on the K7XX. One improvement might be bass extension but again, not a huge improvement. The point of diminishing returns is like 300, above that you just might get a different sound signature and fancier technology which is cool on paper but doesn't return much improvement.
>>53780721
Depends really. I don't know much about AKG headphones, having only tried the Q701's and only having tried the Sennheiser HD650's (which, the Senns were better) but it's not a whole lot. It doesn't start getting good until about the $500+ range. Otherwise it's not a whole lot different unless the sound signature is opposite or something.
>>53780705
>Clannad OST
Based.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNrXDrs352g
>>53780908
Even then "good" might just be a sound signature you like with slight improvement on other aspects. TOTL headphones satisfy two things: placebophiles and lab measurements.
>>53780901
>>53780908
Suppose I'll wait and treat my next headphone purchase as a total luxury item. Is there anywhere I can go to try out and test different headphones? I'd hate to pay $300 and then go back t0 558s for the warm sound signature (not that I know much about SS. Only have tried 558s and my IEMS which have better bass).
>>53780946
I suppose. I use LCD-2's and the planar magnetics destroy most dynamic drivers. So for me, it's a lot about clear imaging. Sound signature isn't too important but I do love the bass on these. I can just boost it with my amp and it sounds fine for EDM/Dubs.
Would I drop the LCD-2's for say, a pair of Stax? Not really, just because I don't care for how bright they sound, as good as their imaging is.
>>53780918
Yeah, Key can make some sweet OST's. I really like the Charlotte and Angel Beats sound tracks too.
>>53780996
Sometimes there are audio/headphone shops. Look online. Sometimes it's worth a 3 hour drive if you're spending a lot. I didn't do that though. I just read and asked forums for comparisons based on their experiences.
>>53780918
>I really like the Charlotte and Angel Beats sound tracks too.
My nigga. Actually watching Charlotte currently. Not as good as Angel Beats, but I definitely like the direction. Jun Maeda is a beast. You ever listen to his collab with Yanagi Nagi?
>>53781034
I haven't, no. Never really looked into his music outside of sound tracks.
All I know is that 320 Kbps sound tracks from anime sound pretty gud. SAO's is fantastic as well. Luminous Sword is just amazing on these cans.
Yuki Kaijura doesn't fuck around with her music either.
What are some good [spoiler]budget[/spoiler] earbuds? I'm not looking for IEMs, but earbuds similar to the Apple ones. I'm mainly going to use it for my android phone, so it'd be great if it had a remote on it.
DT 990 masterrace
>>53781074
>Yuki Kaijura
She is a goddes. SAO's soundtrack was incredible, as was Fate/Zero's and especially Madoka's.
She is scoring Boku Dake ga Inai Machi this season, and it has been incredible so far. Her sound is pretty consistent, but I always find it to be incredible.
Anyway, back to headphone talk. Something for the road:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxZov8-DBHo
So the pads on my HD555 are torn up. I need some new ones and my choice is between:
Some Chinese knock offs on ebay (pic related)
Pads from the Official site for around $30
Wat do
One issue I have with the 558s and my garbage soundcard is it's not very loud. I assume new phones+amp will easily fix this issue while also giving me a different/better sound signature and maybe FR?
>>53781112
Piston 3
>>53781121
Erased, Episode 9, 5:40, cannot wait for the soundtrack to be released just for this song.
Anyone ever try the Denon D2000's? I thought about buying a pair but I can't remember if they're the same as the AHD2000's.
Also, I really wanna hear impressions of the HD800's compared to an LCD series headphone.
>>53774225
Custom IEMs
>>53781131
One last question, tech nigger said these work better for studio work as they're relatively flat. Good for music production? My 558s have a good soundstage that really helps a lot with subtlety.
saging, I've bumped this thread too many times.
is the sony mdr v6 meme over? i dont see them in these threads anymore
>>53781308
Replaced by the MDR-7506, which are basically the exact same thing.
>>53781112
If budget is the top priority and if you don't mind a v-shape signature, philips she-3590.
>>53781112
Apple Earpods is the only one worth buying. The vocals and the sound quality is the same as Etymotic. The downsides for Earpods are that it's very uncomfortable for long periods of listening. I paid retail cost for my Earpods just to try them out and I think they sound great except comfort.
>>53781202
Best custom iem company?
>>53780998
"imaging"
I'm laffin' :'D
UMIK-1 probably arriving tomorrow I need to sort out a coupler.
>>53781442
>:'D
Alright, newfag.
And yeah, imaging and clarity are important to me.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereo_imaging
>>53781468
Not him but ironically the best imaging and staging headphones are dynamics.
>>53780646
>not a big jump between the HD 558 and K7XX
bullshit the K7XX is worlds better than the HD 558
>>53781468
X'D Please my guts can't handle it.
>>53781506
>worlds better
ahhh, zeos the placebophile is on the lose again bringing his grade 'a' superlatives. someone bring in the cable risers and the brilliant pebbles we might just be able to lure him. .
Hey guys, what's your opinion on noise cancelling wireless headsets?
>>53781130
get better headphones
>>53781532
i don't really like zeos, the HD 558 is veiled shit so anything that isn't veiled is better by default.
>>53781575
if that massive dip in the k7xx upper midrange isn't veil i don't know what is
>>53781594
you meant uprange?
>>53781615
no what the fuck is uprange
>>53781537
Bait.
/r/'ing bait fish wearing beats headphones. I know I've seen it somewhere. My hard drive had to be formatted and I don't have it.
>>53781615
Upper midrange you troglodyte.
>>53781625
the treble, the dip is from the 3khz to 5khz, sorry i speak english
>>53781594
Its not veiled you retard, the HD 558 has no treble stop acting as if its anything but total shit
>>53781650
i don´t speak*
>>53781650
>treble 3khz to 5khz.
are you tricking me you tricky trickster?
>>53781693
No hes just the belgian shitposter trying to shill for sennhieser once again
>>53781693
only the dip the treble is from 2khz and upwards
Am I making a huge mistake?
>>53781750
http://www.independentrecording.net/irn/resources/freqchart/main_display.htm
"high mids" also known as "upper mids"
>>53781765
oh, sorry my bad
>>53781742
I'll take your word for it. My current worry is that the headphones will transfer wind noise like the M35s when I'm outside.
>>53779249
Micca MB42X & Dayton SUB-1000 & Lepai LP-2020A+
>>53781725
I'm jelly. I would buy one. I've heard the MSR7 before. But instead I ordered a in-ear earphone. Dunu 2000J and its about the same price range of your headphone.
>>53781725
Wasn't MSR7 $100 on Adorama?
>>53778517
Not bassy, but Pioneer se-a1000
>>53781886
Really? Wow that's a steal. Do you have a link to it?
>>53781895
Sorry it was a refurb from Focus Camera that isn't on sale anymore
https://slickdeals.net/f/8595286-audio-technica-ath-msr7-sonic-pro-high-res-headphones-w-detachable-cables-refurb-100-free-shipping
>>53781385
Can't tell you because in my country, custom iems are not produced. But they are made to fit your ear in all ways
>>53780901
>>53780908
>>53780998
Nice bullshit you wrote up.
>>53781447
Interesting. Any ideas how you are going to do it?
>>53782604
I was actually thinking of cutting into some yoga blocks and putting creatology foam on the side that will have the mic sticking out + the felt ring around the mic. Maybe a CD under the creatology to also simulate bone and I'd make the hole for the mic a little larger to fit some open cell foam inside to seal up.
Is a iPod Video still worth getting? Or are there other music players? I could use my phone but I'm forced to use an app. I don't want to. And it apps crash sometimes.
>>53783147
Depending on your budget, Fiio X1 is the go to nowadays.
HD 598se
>>53783609
absolute trash
What are good closed Sennheisers for around 100$?
Are 451 461 471 line up any good?
Anyone else tried the HD598SE
I wasn't impressed with the original 598 two or three years ago, this latest version sounds REALLY good though. It rivals my HD650 almost, also doesn't need an amp to sound good.
>>53784161
it just change the color, not the driver
>>53784312
I may have gotten a shit pair two years ago. I returned them after a few days because the bass made the driver/housing make a buzzing noise around 50-100hz. The new one I just got a week ago or so sounds better and does not have any issues like the old one. Regardless, I'm happy.
>>53784338
meybe fake or defective unit, and i don't understand why everybody calls them shit
>>53784397
I just came to say they arent shit. I am so impressed with these little $100 headphones. The HD598SE has plenty of bass as well, I almost want to say it goes lower than my HD650 (the mid bass isn't as forward as the 650 tho, I would say the 598 is very balanced and neutral)
>>53781385
are you from europe or from 'murica?
At least they're tolerable now. Not sibilant and bass is tamed.
>>53784537
Adjust the filter width, check the graph function in the right side. A -12 dB filter with a width of 1.41 Q is a massive dip.
Apparently you can SuperDupont with Shure Olive L's. Conveniently I have SE535s and use Olive S.
HD800 cop or not?
>>53781115
Had to return mine, couldn't handle the treble
>>53784537
the fuck is that EQ lmao
>>53784814
Literally searched "m50x eq" and found it in >muh headfi because I'm too stupid to do this myself. I did fall for the M50x meme after all.
>>53784537
With an EQ like that you could have just bought something better
>>53774040
>What's up with all the AKG hate as of late?
Haters are either simply shitposters or people preferring warm/lullaby sound over an alaytical/cold sound.
>These (Q701, K702, K612, etc.) are as neutral as neutral can be - for the price
Overall yes, if you exclude some some peaks in the treble and a somehow weak bass. Again, most people have been considering bass as a very important feature in their audio equipment, partly because modern mainstream music is bass-heavy and partly because people prefer warm/veiled sound. For the price the AKG open models are excellent headphones. Just think that the K702 used to cost as much as the HD650 some time ago and people used to think that K702 was on the same level as the HD650. Times, music, tastes, and people have changed since then....
>Is it because of Zeos bashing the K612 that this new wave of haters has arrived, or made their voice be heard when otherwise would have remained silent?
Not just Zeos unfortunately, but he's a subjective reviewer after all. Tyll is also strongly biased against AKG, even though his measurements are usually in contrast with his subjective impressions.
>>53784800
Haven't tried the olive method, I did mine using the newer method of foam+felt+paper, since I had the materials on hand. Balances everything out quite nicely, with the subdued 6-7k peak, the whole range sounds clearer.
>>53784885
>>53784885
>warm/lullaby sound over an alaytical/cold sound.
If sen are warm and akg cold, what is there that is in between?
>>53784897
Cop or not, senpai? With the HD800S, there are a bunch of sales for the HD800 with the best one I found cutting almost $700 off retail here in Australia.
>>53784800
Olives were a prototype that didn't work nearly as well as later iterations.
>>53784885
>Again, most people have been considering bass as a very important feature in their audio equipment, partly because modern mainstream music is bass-heavy and partly because people prefer warm/veiled sound
Apparently wanting neutral bass is now a result of 'modern music' being 'bass-heavy'. Alright there nobass shill, we're believe you.
>>53784944
As someone who owns one. Cop it. But I'm not even using it. I'm currently still playing around with my Monoprice 8320s EQ.
Endgame is when you learn what endgame neutral sounds like and start equalizing cheap headphones to sound good.
>>53784944
Similar situation as me then. Bought mine for $810 new and don't regret it, if you can get a nice discount then I don't see why not. Even with the mod the Senns are an acquired taste so ymmv.
>>53784916
Warm and cold sound are really poor and reductive ways of describing sound at any rate, as well as saying that a headphone is analytical or sounds tinny,artificial,natural ecc.ecc.. I have a K702 and personally I don't consider it as cold and bass-light as people say, I would just say that the K702 is extremely clear, that is to say that it has excellent instruments' separation and it presents the whole audible spectrum very well.
>>53784983
>the Senns are an acquired taste
Nice way to rationalize your bad purchase
>>53785025
Not rationalizing anything, I just know some people like loads of distorted bass, which the 800's don't have, so it's a good idea to keep your expectations in check.
>>53784966
You're missing the point. I wasn't blaming people for wanting neutral bass (which only good planar headphones have btw), I was blaming people that consider headphones having the right amount of bass as bad headphones in comparison with headphones boosting bass.
> nobass shill
This is a meme that should really stop.
I want to buy a new headset soon cuz my old ones mic is broke
my budget is 110$
was thinking about the HyperX Cloud II
any opinions?
>>53785079
HyperX Cloud I are 66€ on italian Amazon. Spending more for a Cloud II is unnecesary.
>>53785079
>headset
Unless you have a really good reason for this, any headphone + mic >>>>>>>>>>>>> headset
>>53785079
http://www.amazon.com/Takstar-Monitor-Headphone-Gaming-Computer/dp/B009PIQUB6
plus
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-ECMCS3-Omnidirectional-Stereo-Microphone/dp/B0058MJX4O
>>53784800
Is this some SBAF thing? I'm actually a bit interested to mod and try this myself as I have the SE535 and HD 800 and I can measure them. The Olive L is too big for human ears anyway.
>>53784827
Whoever did that doesn't really know what they are doing with a parametric EQ. The strength of a parametric equalizer is to use filters of different types to much more accurately and effectively fix the problems in the frequency response. You might as well use a simple multi band graphic equalizer if you don't touch the filters types but I highly recommend learning the parametric EQ. It's much more effective.
>>53785072
>which only good planar headphones have btw
Stock yeah, EQ fixes the roll off on headphones which show that. Bandwidth can't be fixed with EQ but most headphones can play down really low.
>>53785113
>>53785099
I dont want an extra mic, its just annoying to have a mic on the table next to my keyboard
>>53785151
Then buy any hedset, they're all shit.
>>53785158
if i wanted a mic + headphones i could just buy a mic cuz i own heaphones already
>>53785158
HyperX Cloud is basically a Takstar Pro with a good detachable mic of good. Nothing wrong with this combo imo, especially for less than 70 €/$. It's hard to have a a good headphone + mic at the same price.
>>53785072
>I was blaming people that consider headphones having the right amount of bass as bad headphones in comparison with headphones boosting bass.
Boosted bass is easier to EQ than rolled off bass, especially when dynamics have high subbass distortion.
>>53785133
>Is this some SBAF thing?
Yes, but if you can help it, try the new method: http://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/superdupont-resonator-summary-and-interest-check.1558/
I got the foam from a keyboard wrist rest, the felt was four layers of cleaning cloth, 160gsm office paper, and I super glued the whole stack together. Didn't have hole punches so I used wood-working tools.
>>53785198
Of course, but it would be always better to not EQ anything at all. K702 has less THD distortion than, let's say, HD600 in the sub-bass region and according to Tyll and other measurements K702 sub-bass is better than HD600 out of the box. Among dynamic headphones DT880 and HD800 have the best bass overall.
>>53785113
>paying significantly more for a worse mic
get zmmic1 if you want a lavalier faggot
>>53785079
get the cloud 1
>>53785273
>zmmic1
that's just shit mate, i got my sony's for 18€ on ebay
>>53785216
>I got the foam from a keyboard wrist rest
That's actually a good idea. I need a new rest anyway as my current one is peeling off. Might as well scrap it for mods.
>>53785198
>Boosted bass is easier to EQ than rolled off bass, especially when dynamics have high subbass distortion
Literally one filter to fix the roll off is enough. Distortion is irrelevant in equalization and it isn't affected by EQ either.
XB950 or HD451/461 ?
>>53785289
side by side comparison, zmmic beats the ecmcs3
I did the checking mate, zmmic is better and only like 7.5-10$
that's double the price son
>>53784950
>didn't work nearly as well as later iterations
>as well
It still works then, right? I can always make the "proper" mod later so the Olive L can be a temporary ghetto mod.
>>53785518
It still works, but from what I remember reading through the thread is that the olive also catches the 4~5khz frequencies, while the new one is more localized. The 800S was designed specifically to tame the 6k peak, but also adds some distortion in the bass, while the new mod apparently doesn't (as much).
Hi /hpg/ I was wondering if some german anon would help me with a system audio I would like to use, but I have no clue of what's inside. There's someone kind and german or polish to lend me a hand, please?
Sennheiser urbanite XL
Yay or nay?
>>53786197
I heard what it sounds like. Sounds kinda good and a bit muddy but a waste of money. MSR7 is way better.
>>53786197
nay
look like shit
name is shit
IIRC I looked up graphs some time when someone else asked & they were shit too
>>53786238
>>53786240
Thanks bros
>>53786240
>>53786238
Are these better than XB950's?
>>53786362
do you need bluetooth?
if so, fuck you
if not, don't get xb950
>>53786491
I dont need bt. If not xb950, what the fuck do i get then. Closed and bassy
Everything I do is oldschool
you have 10 seconds to give me 1 reason why you would EVER buy open over closed cans
>>53786619
So you can hear the sound of the bull ramming your wife over your chinese cartoons and kpop
i want some wireless over the ear headphones to use for occasional gaming (I play Rocksmith and GTA5 on pc) but mostly studying to free myself from distractions. I tried Logitech G930s but had to return them because of shoddy software causing them to constantly disconnect.
Could someone suggest some decent but affordable options?
>>53786104
A little bump, I just need some german anon to help me out to search a little, please.
>Budget
€300
>Location
netherlands
>Source
phone, pc
>Preferred type of headphone
full size
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
important, couple of hours
>Preferred tonal balance
bassy
>Preferred music
metal, jpop, classic (all ranges basically)
>Past headphones
mostly earbuds, had a sennheiser hd 200-something, but it killed my ears after a while (thus importance on comfort)
Now I know it's frowned upon, but is there really nothing good in wireless? I fucking hate that shit cable at my PC and want to walk around the house with it
>>53786720
Beats
Opinions on the K550?
How are the mids and bass respectively?
>>53786600
xpt100
K553 if US
x00
pm3
>>53786778
Well extended and fairly smooth if they seal well. If they don't(which is person dependent), the bass is really weak. K550 is inconsistent with seal from person to person.
>>53786720
see >>53786800
>>53786778
worse K553 which is US exclusive
worse MSR7
>Budget: $65
Can anyone recommend me some 'gentle' (not a sound guy, not sure how to describe it) headphones that cancel outside noise, I have really sensitive ears and I can get headaches really easy because of the ones I have now.
>>53786685
german anon here o/
>>53786860
> closed
> bassy
> expensive
> shit taste in past headphones
It fits very well what he's asking for
>>53786854
you sound more like you're looking for someone to erp with than you are looking for headphones
that being said, don't think there's anyone that ticks the boxes in that budget
maybe e10?
I need a replacement for my Tesco branded overear headphones which finally kicked the bucket, pic related. I'd rather get something better than just replacing them.
>Budget
About £30-50
>Location
Europe, UK
>Source
My HTC 610 & Ipad mini, also computers at college/work
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-size Overear, Folding if possible
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
As comfortable as possible, usually worn for hours at a time
>Preferred tonal balance
Balanced,
>Preferred music
All audiable types of music but mostly EDM and Classical
>Past headphones
Tesco Value headphones - http://www.tesco.com/direct/technika-dj-over-ear-headphone-red/458-9991.prd?pageLevel=&skuId=458-9991
Nubwo No-3000
SkullCandy Earbuds
Hey guys, need help, tried to buy JVC HAFX-101 for my sister for her birthday and after three weeks of waiting, on the last day, I got fucked over by the store and I'm not getting them in time
Can anyone recommend some cheap but good IEM, I've seen some Panasonic model ending in 120 in the /g/wiki guide, but I have only seem similiar model ending in 125 to buy, are those any good ? I'm going to store at the moment and would like to get some recommendations to look for, since here I can only find mainstream stuff like Panasonic and Philips and shit, no Xiaomi and such that I was looking for at first
Opinion on Symphonized Wraith 2.0? Looking for a listening sensation for <$100.
>>53786871
Great. \o Can you help on finding out what it has in the inside?
>tiny url dot com hede5ak
I have one of this in home, this is only a module, and I was wondering how powerful it is.
>>53786924
Never admit to use skullcandy
>>53786924
pro 80
>>53786944
decent ratings
no measurements
kind of a risk, trusting randoms that enjoy beats
>>53786990
They where £2 in the sale bin I couldn't say no
Any info hoe shit are JVC HA FX 5 compare to FX101 or something like that?
>>53774225
Shure IEMs
>>53786922
How accurate is pic related? HD668B are $40 and 8323 at $30 are tempting
ignore sound quality because I'll be damned before I hear a difference after some shitty in-ears messed me up
>>53787067
grado is a meme
v6 replaced by 7506 which is basically the same
ad700 is gone
porta pros are decent, but beaten by others & overpriced due to hype
8323 supposedly beaten by th02
check out sr850 & sr950 from samson if you like 668b, same drivers
>>53782604
Someone doesn't understand the law of diminishing returns. I bet you own several tube amps and silver cables.
>>53787067
by the way 668b and sr850 are open, so you won't want them if you want noise isolation
>>53774225
>>53787045
This. I'm reaally happy with my Shure se215. Fun to listen to with emphasised bass. With really powerful high tones (soprano voices or similar) some harshness can become evident.
If worn as recommended and you get used to it you forget to wear iem's.
>>53787139
>I bet you own several tube amps and silver cables.
What?
The talk about improving "sound quality" by better instrument separation, imaging and soundstage is what I was referring to as bs.
>It doesn't start getting good until about the $500+ range
And this.
>planar magnetics destroy most dynamic drivers
And this.
WHAT WE LISTENIN TO TONIGHT?!?!?!?
https://soundcloud.com/rare_candy/mura-masa-nu-gangstas
FUCKIN BUMPIN IN HERE 6AM I DON'T GIVE A FUCK
KEEPIN IT ONE HUNNID SENPAI
>>53787198
ah sorry! you need to specify.
Is there a headphone that doesn't fuck up your hair?
Like seriously, it makes me sound like a faggot, but my current one is making my hair grow all fucked up. And I shave like once every 3~4 weeks.
>>53787261
Audiotechnica AD series headphones, they have those little wings that have minimal contact on your head. Otherwise get iems.
>>53787275
Ok, thanks. Probably gonna buy an iem then next time.
>>53787130
>>53787141
Thanks anon, I'm going with the th02B
are these any good, relative to other headphones in the 200€ range? AKG Q 701 Quincy Jones
just looking for decent phones for listening to music on a pc
>>53785273
in germany the Cloud II just costs a few euros more and i dont like the colors of the Cloud I
>>53787623
>th02B
don't know what that shit is
Errytiem.
>>53787626
They're just a rebranded K702. If they're still cheaper than the K702 and you like the AKG sound then go for it.
>>53787678
it's a downgrade
if you just cared about looks get the beats
>>53787760
yep they're cheaper, but the thing is, I don't know what AKG sound is like, never got to try them
how would they compare to Beyerdynamic? I somewhat prefer warmer sound
>>53787804
Well they're not warm, that's for sure.
>>53787840
wew, thanks
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>>53787864
(www.pcgarage ro/casti/)
>>53787130
Only the plastic housing Grados are a meme, the reference series are much better but still have that love/hate it sound to them. Thick bass and mids that are revealing to the point of sounding disgusting on poor sources/mixes, which is made worse by them being easy to drive, giving you the sense that they're forgiving when they're not. It's just not worth EQ'ing them unless you like the sound to begin with.
>>53786956
>>53786871
Are you there, anon?
>>53788052
I was just joking
>Budget
£100 max
>Location
UK
>Source
LGG3, PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Over Ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy enough to wear over glasses and not too tight
>Preferred music
Rock, instrumental pieces, various, anisong
> Most important feature
Noise cancelling (work in open office, travel a ton etc.), good bass
> Currently Have
Some Sony X-series IEMs
>>53788254
xpt100
>>53788328
Being sold nowhere by anyone
>>53788519
Brainwavz HM5, then. Same thing with more clamp and flat pads instead of angled ones.
>>53788555
xpt has both pairs
>>53788623
Yes, and the HM5 just comes with an extra pair of flat ones.
>budget
Around 100 dollars
>location
EU, Czech
>source
Phone (mainly), tablet or sometimes laptop
>preferred type
In ear
>open or closed
Closed, with good isolation
>comfort level
Never had in ear before, around 2h/ day or more when I'm traveling
>preferred tonal balance
dont know
>preferred music
rock, jazz, hip hop, alternative, electronic, animu
>past headphones
I have Audio Technica ATH M50, they're great but I want some in ear for traveling mainly (ATHs don't fit in pocket obviously)
Also had Koss porta pro (lost them), I liked them except they were open, I want something with good isolation
I've read a bunch of reviews, but I'm really indecisive. Looked at Sennheiser Momentum in ear but I don't know if there are some better headphones
>>53786810
>>53786816
But generally speaking they are pretty good for their price range right?
Production flaws aside
>>53789218
like I said
worse k553
worse msr7
>>53787740
So they're all shit?
>>53787804
Sennheiser should be a safer bet. Something like the HD558 (598 has a bit less bass)
>Budget
Preferrably ~ $200 CAD
>Location
Canada, near Toronto
>Source
Usually just my computer or phone, but I have a record player with a pre amp that I sometimes use when I really wanna enjoy an album.
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-Ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Not that picky. I don't need feather pillows on my ears but I don't want something that will make me instantly uncomfortable. I'm wearing them most of the day though so fatigue might be an issue.
>Preferred tonal balance
High, I suppose.
>Preferred music
I listen to a lot of different kinds of music so there's not really one preferred kind. Metal, ambient, and experimental rock I guess are my main genres.
>Past headphones
ATH M50s. They just broke a couple days ago after 4 years of steady use. rip
ALSO- Detachable cables are a must. I'm so sick and tired of paying for a whole new set of phones whenever a tiny wire in the cable breaks.
Laying flat on my back and saying im a newfag to /g/, but i've been on 4chan for years. I need a pair of headphones for mostly music that I can use in public, meaning it can't leak or look too weird.
>Budget
Under 180 US dollars, but rather flexible
>Location
Europe, Norway (http://www.prisjakt.no/, 1500 nok)
>Source
Phone, Samsung S5
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
As long as it doesnt fall off whilst I walk and doesnt get me a headache, its fine.
>Preferred music
Jazz and rock
(Jazz - https://youtu.be/Hh_oHJ_d6c0, https://youtu.be/NtQRBzSN9Vw, https://youtu.be/3mpgj0mv6Sk)
(Rock - https://youtu.be/OLNTWN0Asmg, https://youtu.be/Vug69ZDqcKo, https://youtu.be/KqqOVqjxs6Y)
>Past headphones
I have a pair of AKG 553 that I use at home but they're so wide that its weird to use them in public.
By the way, if ive made any mistakes in /g/posting just correct me
My triple flange eartips for the etymotic mc 5 died. Can anyone recommend a good replacement?
>>53789974
New flanges? How long did they last?
Cop Or Not?
>>53790154
Exactly one year of pretty much daily use. To be fair i was a bit harsh in the past few months when the grip started loosening and i had to put my nail into them to pull em out.
I will give the mushroom looking plugs a try while the new ones arrive. Users at amazon speak greatly of their isolation. Will see.
do anyone know a good plug in to equalize with foobar? the ones in the wiki are all down
>>53790334
Just install EQ APO.
>>53790345
>EQ APO
thanks
>>53786653
This is the thing, asking for bluetooth headphones here is like asking for someone to punch you. Bluetooth doesn't always transmit all the data to the headphones, causing you to lose quality.
Now, about your problem, I assume you are asking for closed headphones. Depending on your budget, you can have from monoprice 8323, superlux hd 681 evo which iirc are semi open, up to something like the ath-m50x or other closed headphones at that price range.
>>53790571
>, superlux hd 681 evo
>ever recommending this piece of garbage
kill yourself
>>53786653
op
>>53787067
I own a pair of 668b's and the sound for the price is amazing. One thing though, the clamp force may be too much if you say you are sensitive.
As I read somewhere, leave them a day fully open so that you reduce the clamp, for expample in your PC case.
Also, the pads are uncomfortable after some time. So find some solution to this if you plan to listen music or play games for 2+ hours.
>>53788555
Can't say i've ever heard of Brainwavez
I need to check them out
I wish i could just go somewhere and test a bunch of headphones before purchase
>>53790169
>detachable cable... Cray or Cool... Style and look!
Something about any real company using ellipses like a retard really triggers my autism.
Unless you're actually writing a book with a character that's having legit trouble speaking, it should be a criminal offense to do that.
What price range makes sense for a headset that will simply be used together with a smartphone or pc?
>>53791103
>makes sense
>headset
Pick one.
>>53791103
hyperx cloud
Bought these ROCK ZIRCON in ear headphones, these shits are fire
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-Original-Rock-Earphone-Nano-Zircon-Stereo-Earphone-Headset-3-5mm-In-Ear-Headset-Earbuds-For/32497600045.html
>>53791103
$200.
>>53789311
Not that guy, but is the MSR7 that good? I hear it's kinda bright, and that worries me.
>>53791399
it's balanced and good
pretty much end game for closed back
>>53787720
>http://www.amazon.com/TASCAM-TH02-B-Closed-Back-Stylish-Headphone/dp/B00B1N06PO?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_2&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Senpai, it's the first search result
>>53791467
oh it's the white version, should be aite then
I'm wary of variations in name because 681b 681i 681s 681d 681f etc. all being shit, similar with the 668 but only the 668b is good
Need help to find some quality IEMs.
Budget: ~100€
Location: Germany/Europe
Type:IEM
Comfort: Should be comfortable to listen to music for 2 hours or more.
Tonal Balance: Neutral or whatever fits with rock/metal music.
Preferred music:Rock/metal/classical
>>53791301
Yo, look at these sick knock-offs. Someone get these to see if they're any good.
>>53791509
>the white version
TH02-B(lack) and TH02-W(hite) are supposedly different? The page has them as the exact same product in different colours and most reviews I've seen online looked at the black version
>>53791425
Can it be used outside? e.g. isolation, wind noise?
>>53791509
Hey what's wrong with the HD681? I have them. You have to put a little bit of EQ and it sounds good.
Why do you think the 668B sounds better? HD681 is already nigbass. 668B would sound even more bass. Not trying to start an argument but you just called these shit.
>>53792964
with the 681 nothing, but the 681s, 681f, 681b, 681d etc. are shit, so is the 681 evo
which is why I said I was wary of the th02b
>tfw scored "broken" O2+odac for 40€, just need to solder a new headphone jack and it's good as new. Maybe i'll do the desktop mod while i'm at it.
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