Previously on: >>53586940
Welcome to /flt/, we are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:
0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux
Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.
Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will literally work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
>>53592164
first
>>53592164
Why does Kubuntu seem to take much longer to boot up as compared to Linux Mint and Ubuntu GNOME? Was testing them all on Virtual Machines, all same specs
Is Kubuntu really that bloated?
Took 38 seconds for both Mint and Ubuntu GNOME
1 minute 30 seconds for Kubuntu
> Shell pasta:
The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/
The community driven BASH wiki:
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/
The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html
Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls
SED and AWK; your new best friends:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt
Google's Shell Style Guide:
https://google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml
The Linux Command Line - A Book By William Shotts:
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
Interesting, useful and dangerous one-liners:
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
Great online (and offline) linting tool:
http://www.shellcheck.net/
Know what you are doing:
http://explainshell.com/
>>53592204systemd-analyze blame
Compare the output on all three distributions and see what's making it take that long.
> Filepicker pasta:
Tippers:
https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/jkisielewicz/gtk2-filepicker-iconview/
Amazuntu:
https://launchpad.net/~helkaluin/+archive/ubuntu/gtk2-filechooser-iconview
Arsch Linux:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gtk2-patched-filechooser-icon-view/
Absolute Madmen:
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka/01213036b58e510dc074
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka/49c1d0eea4b64f24c4c7
I just installed minix3 for study purposes and i find it quite lacking in user programs such as calculator or clock display. Does minix3 contain Apps like this or is it empty and only for study purposes?
>>53592204
run:
systemd-analyze blame
It's probably either network management on man-db related.
>>53592226
>network management or man-db related.
>>53592212
For the file picker patch, I added the ppa and updated, but now it isn't letting me actually install the packages glib2.0 and gtk+2.0. It's telling me something about unmet dependencies and broken packages.
I have tried sudo apt-get install -f, but it doesn't fix anything.
Has anyone successfully installed the patch for Ubuntu?
>>53592164
>GNU/Linux
Linux. Just Linux. Your ignorance is showing.
>Font pasta:
General informations:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fonts
Huge list of font resources:
https://github.com/brabadu/awesome-fonts
List of monospaced fonts for programming:
https://github.com/chrissimpkins/codeface
List of monospaced bitmap fonts for programming:
https://github.com/Tecate/bitmap-fonts
You may also need to enable bitmap fonts and rebuild the font cache:
rm -v /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf
ln -s ../conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf .
fc-cache -v -f
Fonts patched with shitloads of icon glyphs:
https://github.com/ryanoasis/nerd-fonts
Premade fontconfigs:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Infinality
Configure your own fontconfig:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_configuration
Read the documentation:
file:///usr/share/doc/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html
>>53592221
Not sure why you're posting this here. But, iirc it supports netBSD packages, of which there are few thousands.
>>53592247
Gno.
linux is just windows for poor people
>>53592221
MINIX3 is not yet viable as an everyday OS, it is very interesting, especially for systems that need to stay stable and should never crash. it has a few ports on GNU packages, maybe you could help with them?
>>53592271
>>53592247
>>53592173
why do i think you are the same person?
>>53592294
because you're incapable of seeing beyond your own poverty
>>53592319
lel, is that done via :after { content: ?
>>53592294
>>53592276
Not yet anyways., but they are working on it though. The creator got like few million from EU to Make it into a useable operating system. Can't wait for them to make it viable and to get rid of this monolithic 60-ies disease
>>53592330
Do you really think somebody would go on the internet and lie?
>>53592363
My question was related to
>Shitposted
>>53592352
yeah, MINIX is really promising, especially since Tannenbaum switched to a free license it could become an interesting way to run GNU.
>>53592371
Oh. It's under advanced on 4chan X.
Just slap it into time formatting.
>>53592412
Ebin. Thx.
Between Ubuntu GNOME and Linux Mint, which do you prefer? Why?
>>53592542
ubangnome
>>53592246
What version of Ubuntu are you using?
>>53592542
Ubuntu.
Debian > Ubuntu > Mint
>>53592542
Ubuntu.
Ubuntu > Debian > Mint.
What does /flt/ think about Plan9?
>>53592678
interesting, not as interesting as MINIX3, less usable than GNU/Linux
I fucked around with files on xubuntu, last being something about mime-types for firefox and now all the icons are missing, wallpaper nuked, lightdm doesn't work and I had to use gdm to get in, now the xfce indicator plugin died too
What the fuck did I do
>>53592555
>>53592561
>>53592608
None of you said the reason for your pick, though. I also asked why...
>>53592730
mints devs are incompetent, *buntu was with GNOME by default back when it was good.
So I can't deal with the tearing that's being caused by using Compiz on chromium, using Ubuntu MATE.
However, from what I understand Unity uses Compiz or something very similar, and I get no tearing there. If I understand it right, does that mean that the problem is the desktop environment?
Also, is cinnamon good on Ubuntu? I know it's pretty on Manjaro but I tried it yesterday and that almost rendered my UEFI BIOS unaccessible.
>>53592710
>open up file browser
>Could not find mime types:
“inode/directory”
“inode/blockdevice”
“inode/chardevice”
“inode/socket”
“inode/fifo”
“application/x-shellscript”
“application/x-executable”
“application/x-desktop”
What the fuck did I do
ITS
LINUX
NOT
GNU
>>53592755
update-mime-database /usr/share/mime
>>53592678
the same thing i think about any other research os.
interesting but useless
>>53592766
GNO
>>53592753
the problem is your compositor. try it with compton. https://github.com/chjj/compton/wiki/vsync-guide
>>53592766
linux is a kernel bruh
os is GNU/Linux
What tweaks do you guys recommend I make to get started on Ubuntu GNOME?
I saw someone on the other thread stating that you usually had to fiddle around with it for 20 mins or so to get it to be nicer
It's a completely fresh install
>>53592783
>Directory 'usr/share/mime/packages' does not exist!
I'm literally right there right now in my file browser and it's telling me it does not exist
Spooky but mostly frustration
>>53592823
You forgot a leading /
I'm planning migrating my winblows 2012 server to Ubuntu and ext4.
I have 4x4tb in a storage spaces striped mirror and 3x3tb drives without raid as backup.
Should I format the data drives and setup the raid using mdadm and then restore using ntfs read only from the backup drives? I don't really know what the standard procedure for something like this would be.
>>53592819
gnome-tweak-tool is what you are looking for. have fun.
AMD or Nvidia GPU for Linux box with light gaming requirements? Open or closed drivers, not fussed about muh freedoms.
>>53592730
Ubuntu right now main release = 15.10
Mint right now main release = based on ubuntu 14. whatever.
+ one is very popular, maintained by widest community - other exists just because some people were scared of a corporation handling Ubuntu.
>>53592850
you're the real MVP. thanks anon
>>53592804
Compton fixes tearing, however there's 0 animations there.
>>53592840
Wow I'm a fucking genius
Anyways,
Failed to parse '/usr/share/mime/packages/freedesktop.org.xml'
Unknown media type in type 'all/all'
Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles'
Unknown media type in type 'uri/mms'
Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmst'
Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmsu'
Unknown media type in type 'uri/pnm'
Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspt'
Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspu'
How do I get a clean copy of the file because this seems fucked
>>53592876
Animations are gay. If you wan bloat, get compiz.
>>53592558
Sorry for a late reply, I am using 15.10. I'm guessing I can't install the patch with this version? Because in order to even add the ppa I needed to change the sources to vivid from wily.
I think i'm getting alzheimer. Where is the download button? https://sourceforge.net/projects/architect-linux/
If I wanted to check out Debian, the "Testing" variant is right for me, right? Since it's a Desktop.
Or should I go really safe and try Stable?
>>53592917
architect's dev threw a hissy fit and took it down.
not surprising considering he was yet another autistic archfag
>>53592864
>not fussed about muh freedoms
>gaming
>>>/v/
>>>/wangblows/
>>53592876
actually there is fading if you want some. here's an example of a config file: https://github.com/chjj/compton/blob/master/compton.sample.conf
>>53592927
Ubuntu is Debian testing with ubuntu's own patches but actually meant and preconfigured to be used for desktop
If you want to use it for commercial software that requires gpu acceleration and you have a discrete gpu you should try the LTS release of Ubuntu
>>53592904
Well that's the thing, isn't it
I can use compiz, which is fine except for that detail. It's unusual that it does that, because I tried compiz on a different DE and there was no tearing with Chromium.
I guess I could switch to Unity but it's kinda shit
>>53592927
use stable until you feel the need for newer packages.
>>53592917
>I'm following these threads since a while, so here a tl;dr
>Some YouTube normie killed it. Normie tried to install Arch via Architect, but it didn't work. He reported the bug and the Architect developer banned him. Normie made another video about it, dev got mad and deleted all ressources.
>I'd say: Ragequit.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x72CANa6X6k
>>53592864
Nvidia with proprietary drivers.
AMD support for linux is garbage.
>>53592955
Why the LTS and not just the most recent version of Ubuntu?
>>53592864
If you want to go light gaming - go nvidia - and pick windows 10 enterprise lsbt, run these shell scripts all of them to remove botnet and deep tracing things - https://github.com/W4RH4WK/Debloat-Windows-10
Then you should also run - Spybot Anti-Beacon it adds more hosts block.
( If you want to be sure, some even in Microsoft manuals is stated that firewall rules completely block connection with the hosts - but until now no one encountered problem with hosts files, they just block everything - so for now use them - once Microsfts starts to ignore them we'll find another solution.
Also pirate your Microsoft, do not associate any account to it:
https://kat.cr/windows-10-enterprise-vl-x64-v1511-en-us-march-2016-t12271650.html
use dual boot Linux for browsing internet and everything else.
Go mbr partitions, install windows 10 first then ubuntu second it will auto create proper GRUB files.
Done.
>>53592937
>>53592963
https://github.com/CarlDuff I found this, seems like he put it up again
>>53592992
Not him, but why mbr? What's wrong with gpt?
>>53592992
>run these shell scripts all of them to remove botnet and deep tracing things - https://github.com/W4RH4WK/Debloat-Windows-10
>>53592907
You need to patch it in manually. There are only packages for vivid. Give me the output ofsudo apt-cache showpkg gtk+2.0 | grep -A 1 Versions
It may be a bit messy
>>53592989
Proprietary drivers from AMD/Nvidia.
They're of very poorly coded and tend to break (especially AMD's) on kernel version/xorg version update.
LTS releases have a conservative approach to updating critical components like kernels, xorg, init system etc. so it doesn't break on an update.
But that's really boils down to picking your poison.
I'm running Fedora which updates it's kernel a lot and my nvidia drivers continues to work just fine.
But I've heard people with different experiences, so just saying.
>>53593024
gpt implies uefi bios - so many problems.
+ windows 10 is locked on gpt unless you use enterprise which is allowed on mbr.
>>53592992
These "debloat scripts" are useless, since Windows scans the registry and re-activates settings it wants to stay activated.
So how do you guys feel about Canonical these days?
Has the sting of the Amazon controversy worn off yet?
Have they been up to any other shady/questionable business?
>>53593096
I don't trust them and won't support them.
>>53593088
You can reboot the system and check yourself that the registry remains unaltered. I've done this myself
>>53593096
I respect them for removing the Amazon thingy at the next LTS. Listening to the community is very important.
>>53593104
What distro do you use? Just curious
>>53593088
They alter group policies registry work is minimal and usually stuff that will never be changed by updates - because Microsoft itself recommended those changes for performance / privacy in some rare cases.
Group policies really limiit pretty much all of connection with Microsoft if done properly, there are some additional settings that are not included in shell which will literally live 0 connections with Microsoft and you can packet inspect yourself to see that - but they might limit your and you have to research on your own if you want them - read yourself.
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/mt577208%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
>>53593142
Debian sid
>>53593041
http://pastebin.com/jNJUBQsm
Thanks for the help/.
>>53593147
>.aspx
This might be a dumb question, but here I go anyway
Why are there no LTS versions for forks of Ubuntu?
>>53593121
Well registry might set back to normal some of them via a huge update such as new futures as they usually re-install services and reset stuff to make sure they work.
It's not even intentional when that happens.
Microsoft doesn't care if you cut your communication with them, people that do this are small part of user base everyone else just goes with express settings - so Microsoft has more than enough useful data for advertising / selling on people that are already stupid enough to buy shit when they see ads.
>>53593162
What's wrong with aspx
>>53593083
I don't think w10 is locked on gpt at all. I remember using w10 on my old ass computer installing it on MBR no problems.
Maybe you're right though, I'm intrigued because yesterday this happened:
>Wanted to install Manjaro Cinnamon spin without dual booting or anything, just plain clean the whole thing
>Used calamares to install the thing
>Wipe drive and install, all that crap
>Installation is done in no time, time to restart
>First boot, it kinda takes a while to boot it for some reason (on an ssd, too)
>Have to restart
>Suddenly computer gets stuck into the boot splash logo that tells you to press a key to enter bios
>Restart quite a few times, can't get anywhere
>Had to unplug drives + reboot twice to get there
So maybe you're right about this. I'm wondering what the advantage of GPT would be anyways.
>>53593162
It's a page containing C# code pretty basic from Microsoft, server processes the scripts and it sends html to us users - so it's just a normal web page but your autism still got triggered.
I understand now, normies like you just make decisions based on their emotions not actual understanding of things.
>>53593167
Don't use LTS version. LTS is like Debian stable. The long term support only covers security packages; your programs will be pretty fast out of date.
>>53592845
Anyone?
>>53593159
Versions are correct, but the package in question doesn't show up. Just as I thought. You will need to compile it manually.
>>53593214
What would you recommend for Debian? Testing or Unstable?
>>53593083
>+ windows 10 is locked on gpt unless you use enterprise which is allowed on mbr.
Wow!Why does this trigger me?
>>53592164
I've just recently swapped from a dual boot windows/linux to 100% pure linux. Feels so good man. Linux is such a customizable, comfy os.
>>53593204
Advantage of MBR - faster boot time for windows.
( Sure you can use the fast boot function with GPT and have also fast time with it, but it's obviously not coming out of the box like with MBR )
Also much easier to recover data.
While on GPT - data is hardly ever lost as copies of it are kept across drive and constantly check and restored - once some shit gets lost it's hard to restore.
On MBR shit might, MIGHT but very rare unless you have tb's of data and huge usage might get corrupted and lost in that sense but can be restored easier than on GPT with proper software.
GPT is nice, new but badly implemented - MBR is old, very well implemented.
>>53593245
They want to force UEFI to stop normies using hacked/malware shit that might compromise their windows and hence cost them time with customer support.
Microsoft marketing, does good to normies kinda harms geeks.
Anyway debian, fedora and ubuntu can be run on gpt since they all have keys and are "legitimate" software.
>>53593254
You mean GNU is. This is a GNU thread, faggots. If you discredit GNU and not say "GNU/Linux" in general, you are disrespecting software freedom and the GNU Project.
>>53592881
Find out which package owns that file and reinstall it.
>>53593260
Got it.
Didn't know this, I assumed with my newer hardware that GPT would be right. I guess I was wrong.
>>53593230
How do I do that? I've never compiled anything from source before.
>>53593323
Why do you believe him just like that?
Attention: Debian testing just hit linux 4.4.6
>>53593231
The "stable" distribution contains the latest officially released distribution of Debian.
The "testing" distribution contains packages that haven't been accepted into a "stable" release yet, but they are in the queue for that. The main advantage of using this distribution is that it has more recent versions of software.
The "unstable" distribution is where active development of Debian occurs. Generally, this distribution is run by developers and those who like to live on the edge.
>>53593296
You understood what I said, so the extra semantics are unnecessary. Also, nice meme, faggot.
>>53593323
You are good with GPT, if you had MBR you would've been better keeping it instead of converting
+ you cannot convert from GPT to MBR only the other way around.
>>53593361
He can just go research himself then.
>>53593260
>While on GPT - data is hardly ever lost as copies of it are kept across drive and constantly check and restored - once some shit gets lost it's hard to restore.
You keep posting that, but I don't think that's how it works. I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with your actual filesystem.
I have an Alienware 13 R2, Christmas gift.
Would it be a good idea to install leenoox on it, or should I sell it and get a chinkpad?
>>53593390
If your partition table shits itself your filesystem won't help you unless you're able to restore your partition table.
>>53593390
well that's the main idea of an filesystem.
>>53593367
>>53593296
This is also a friendly thread, faggots.
What reasons could someone have to use Debian or Fedora over Ubuntu GNOME?
i posted in last thread about not updating debian sid in 2 months and aptitude offering to remove core components;
the problem involved aptitude not recognizing packages are the old version of packages to updated
aptitude was literally telling me the solution the whole time LOL
i got it fixed now with help from previous thred thanks
tfw somehow got mpd+ncmpcpp+mpdscribble working finally
tfw uncertain on what finally made it work
tfw I had to hack my way into having it work on start-up by editing my .bashrc file withsudo service mpd stop
mpd
sudo mpdscribble
because god knows why. I guess mpd starts itself as a service and I set it up to work locally as a user and I have no clue why I have to have sudo privileges to get mpdscribble started.
why is the gnu life so hard guise
>>53593467
Debian gives you freedom.
Ubuntu gives you convenience.
Fedora gives you snowflakes.
>>53593467
For fedora willing to be free beta tester for red hat.
Debian is still good it's what Ubuntu is based on - but add stability to that.
So you have a specific thing in mind you want Linux for - Debian might be more stable for that.
You want desktop go ubuntu.
>>53593485
>I guess mpd starts itself as a service
That's a very common problem and why most newfriends fail getting it running.
Best distro for a circa 2002 laptop?
It's really old and I need something to breathe life into it.
Has like 512mb ram and a single core cpu with broadcom drivers
>>53593230
Not that Anon, but also BUMPing for this.
Same problem here.
>>53593485
There are a lot of way easier ways to listen to music, but no, you had to go for mpd
>>53593427
And how often does that happen in normal use cases?
>>53593455
Yes, but how is his partition layout going to influence data integrity on the file-system level?
>>53593529
if it's not older than 10 years go lubuntu - this is a rule you can borrow.
Otherwise puppy linux ( there's a version of it that runs on even lower specs take that one ) and you will still have some performance and useful software with that one.
>>53593483
this is nice gril
>>53593580
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record
start lecturing.
>>53593485
>sudo service mpd stop
Which distribution are you using that's not using systemd?
>sudo mpdscribble
Why are you running it as root? Not just mpdscribble (whatever that is), but mpd in general. There are ways to run it as your user. Look into that. The Arch Wiki has it all explained.
>>53593571
Yeah, like using some shitty gui I never look at when listening to music. mpd is the easiest way, newfag.
>>53593326
Is this a good guide?
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
Also, do I have to compile both programs listed in
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka
?
>>53593609
If you get that running, post steps you made so we can make a pasta.
>>53593403
sell it and get a laptop with intel gpu only. something like an xps 13 dev would be great. intel iris are really nice GPU if you don't do a lot of gay men.
>>53593580
Happened to me once in 20 years.
Still, that was not a nice once.
Anyway, there are way more reasons to keep backups besides your partition table shitting itself, but this MBR vs GPT discussion is silly.
>>53593607
Setting up a server to locally stream your music to connect to with a client instead of directly playing the file? Which, by the way, is possible with CLI tools, too.
>>53593672
>he thinks one needs a client to control mpd
>>53593604
There's nothing in there about GPT or any partition table layout influencing your filesystem, let's say ext4, and guaranteeing data integrity on file-system level. I don't know anything about this, but I kind of know enough that it sounds ridiculous. Especially this part:
>data is hardly ever lost as copies of it are kept across drive
So, GPT will automatically keep multiple copies of every file across my hard drive?
The question is: why are you insisting on posting that information without citing any substantial source? All you do is post vague and generalized Wikipedia links.
Which DEs have something like Task View/Mission Control that I can bind to a mouse button?
>>53593467
>Fedora over Ubuntu GNOME?
A non-shit package manager for one
>>53593704
Pretty sure you do, that's its core concept. Just because there's a simple client bundled with it, doesn't mean you're not using a client to listen to it.
>>53593704
That's what the description says.
>>53593187
>>53593208
asp.net is just shit
>>53593751
I'm not using any client to control it.
With some of them bay trail tablets and cherry trail, have there been any advances towards supporting these?
It'd be neat to get one of these tablets and have them running a linux distro and not Windows 10.
>>53593711
>So, GPT will automatically keep multiple copies of every file across my hard drive?
No, it keeps a copy of the partition table so it can be easily restored.
This indirectly involves all data on the drive.
I've moved from Windows to running my first distro Ubuntu (14) on virtualbox. I've used it a bit over the past few days, but I'm not too sure what to do with it now. To note, my current skillset includes some proficiency with C, C++, SDL, Python & Django. I've also done a cheeky bit in Haskell & Racket.
Any other tools and such you'd personally recommend to touch up my dev/ubuntu experience?
>>53593711
Man just fucking use w/e seriously it's not even one vs another.
One is new other is old - pick w/e you want don't complain if you have problems.
>>53593783
Linux is just the kernel. The core system is GNU with Linux added, therefore you should call it GNU/Linux.
>>53593792
you could learn emacs and LISP in a addition to bash scripting.
>>53593634
Are you telling me no one has done this before?
>>53593766
How do you control it?
How do people even use GNOME?
Do you just use hotkeys for everything, or do you actually press the activity button to manage windows and open new programs? Seems unintuitive, especially considering you can't even put anything on the desktop.
>>53593808
>>53593833
Just press super and open whatever you want.
>>53593813
Is emacs much different from vim? I've taken so much time to learn vim already.
And it seems I'll have to learn bash scripting a deal, so I'll get to it. LISP is something I'll look into
>>53593808
Stop disrespecting all the other parts of the system.
>>53593785
Now you're backpedaling. You claimed this:
>data is hardly ever lost as copies of it are kept across drive and constantly check and restored
... clearly meaning actual data and not your partition table data.
>>53593804
I'm not arguing which one is better. I'd use GPT myself. All I'm saying is that he's making ridiculous claims and spreading misinformation. Someone reading that might think that by using GPT that his data will be automatically backed up or multiple copies kept of it.
>>53593854
You know that they're both fake accounts and the comments Richard account done are taken from gnu.org argumentation.
Linus part is just meme, a creative response to make it fun to read.
>>53593873
Totally different. But you can write your bash scripts in vim just fine.
>>53593875
What parts? Neither a DE, a window system nor a web browser is part of the core system. You're talking about distros, wich should be called by their names eg: Debian, Arch, Gentoo.
>>53593854
Fake
>>53593833
GNOME Tweak Tool, dconf editor, arc-theme and some extensions
>>53593898
I'll try it out then
>>53593873
it's way different. there is a way to use vim keybinds in emacs. it's called evilmode. the cool thing about emacs are the plugins, you can basically make it your whole DE and browser.
>>53593881
Different Anon, just answering the question, that wikipedia-quoter won't be able to do it anyway.
>>53593833
I consider Gnome to be very keyboard-centric. One of the nicer extensions to improve the mousing experience is Top Panel Workspace Scroll.
>>53593728
gnome3
binded to super by default iirc
>>53593900
Who defines what's the core of the system?
>>53593818
Sorry for being late.
I simply send mpd messages about what it has to do. There are many ways like sending messages to /dev/tcp or via nc. This is basically what the bundled cliend mpc does.
>>53593986
POSIX.
>>53594010
>Riddle: Who gave POSIX it's name?
>>53593634
Well I have no idea how to progress after just extracting the .zip, since there is no /.configure or README included.
>>53593833
>hotkeys
Yeah, just think of it like a bloated, i3wm.Newer versions work pretty damned smoothly.
>>53594030
Stallman
>>53593991
So... you're basically doing what a client does, but claiming that you're not using a client and working with mpd's client/server structure.
>>53594030
In the 1980s I was in the IEEE committee that wrote the standard that ultimately became known as POSIX. The committee set itself the task of standardizing interface specs for a Unix-like system, but had no short name for its work. When the first part of the specification was ready, someone gave it the name "IEEEIX", with a subtitle that included "Portable Operating System" — perhaps "Specifications for a Portable Operating System".
It seemed to me that nobody would ever say "IEEEIX", since the pronunciation would sound like a shriek of terror; rather, everyone would call it "Unix". That would have boosted AT&T, the GNU Project's rival, an outcome I did not want. So I looked for another name, but nothing natural suggested itself to me.
So I put the initials of "Portable Operating System" together with the same suffix "ix", and came up with "POSIX". It sounded good and I saw no reason not to use it, so I suggested it. Although it was just barely in time, the committee adopted it.
I think the administrators of the committee were as relieved as I was to give the standard a pronounceable name.
What's your favorite distro, /flt/? What do you like most about it?
>>53594088
Arch
Mostly pacman, the fact that it's rolling release and AUR
>>53594088
Parabola, because it's basically Arch with a free as in freedom kernel.
>>53594088
>What's your favorite distro, /flt/?
Debian
>What do you like most about it?
the philosophy and amount of packages
How do I swap /dev/sdb on my ssd with dev/sda which is currently assigned to my hdd?
So when I want to copy a file from my local machine to a remote session I use scp
and it goes likescp /path/to/file username@hostname:/my/target/directory/
How can I do it the other way around?
Meaning copy file from my local machine to a remote machine but from the SSH session in the target remote machine?
>>53594127
I're read Debian is also deblobbing the linux kernel, can you confirm?
>>53594129
For what purpose?
>>53594131
Just usescp user@host:/path/to/file /where/you/want/it/locally/
>>53594111
I should make a mental note to try Parabola once I've gotten off my bum and flashed Libreboot on my Thinkpad X200.
>>53594181
nonononononono
copy a file from a local machine to the remote machine
while logged to the remote machine via ssh.
doable or not?
>Install linux on a VM on my Macbook (I know, I know but it was a freebie from work)
>Font rendering looks like shit
Tried the gnome-tweak tool and the font settings and hiDPI, but it doesn't seem to do anything meaningful. Anybody have a good guide?
Linux.
>>53594131
What's stopping you from doing «scp username@hostname:/path/to/file /my/target/directory/»?
>>53594207
Well, if you can get back to your local machine with scp from the remote machine, but it's not worth the effort when you can just scp both ways from your local machine anyway.
>>53594240
>>53594149
I think it does but it's hard to find anything about it.
>>53594214
https://wiki.debian.org/Fonts#Subpixel-hinting_and_Font-smoothing
here's a guide for debian, otherwise read >>53592257
>>53594240
Don't you le mean le GAY/Likeks XDDDDDD
>>53594151
I'm doing a new install and the partition names were assigned as /dev/sdb for my ssd and /dev/sda for my hdd. I'd like to assign my ssd as /dev/sda and my hdd as /dev/sdb.
>>53594261
Oh shit thanks.
>>53594291
Why do you care if it's sda or sdb?
Is system d a dramatic change to linux? I'm looking to read some general stuff about how linux works like the init system and such but will that information be obsolete if it was written before system d became a thing?
>>53594337
Just preference. I like to have my ssd assigned as sda (boot, root) and the rest on my hdd as sdb (home, var, swap).
>>53594406
Check your udev
https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
So let me get this straight.
The distros listed above are the only TRULY accepted distros for /g/? Or are people here a bit more lenient when it comes to muh freedoms?
>>53594292
Bateman is such an inspiration in so many ways.
Much like Bale is IRL.
>>53594436
No, it's your autism to bring up such a meme.
>>53594436
Teenagers become freetards all the way up until they realize their new laptop needs some filthy, disgusting, corporate non-free firmware to get their network working.
>>53594424
I think found a solution, thanks.
>>53594436
Dont' install nonfree shit and you have a free distro. GNU is just listing distros that come free out of the box.
>>53594436
don't be a freetard, don't deal with absolutes
Would you recommend Fedora for someone who's been kinda using Debian/Ubuntu for ages now?
>>53594436
Fedora and Debain both have a very thought out free software philosophy and guidelines.
>>53594560
do you have a reason? then yes, by all means, try it.
What FireFox addons does /flt/ recommend to enhance privacy? Other cool and relevant FireFox addon suggestions are welcome too.
>>53594604
ublock, umatrix, https-everywhere
>>53594560
GNU/Linux is GNU/Linux, just use what you're used to.
>>53594588
Not really, I just see people recommending it left and right.
Debian based stuff seems to be pretty comfy for me but I always feel kinda claustrophobic when it comes to these things.
>>53594638
then changing it doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. but it's your computer.
>>53594604
privacy badger, random agent spoofer and >>53594614
What would you say to someone who claims that a socket isn't a file because it's not exposed through the filesystem?
>>53594638
I've never seen anyone recommending Fedora, except our red hat shill.
>>53594670
ublock(o) does spoof user agents too
So I was looking for a magnification app that follows the mouse and the only one I could find is called puff and I grabbed it from here (it is very obscure!) http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=432221&sid=f293127b4edb657086afb3f6ce01357c#432221
Had to comment signal handler replacing bit or else it got into an inifinite SIGTERM loop when killing it. Also changed it to stop drawing squares around the mag area. Some useless shit is broken like the keygrabbing stuff but the important stuff still works.
Hey guys I figured I'd drop this talk with Edward Snowden here on Free Software and stuff like that.
I thought it was great. If you've got some time you might find it interesting
https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/libreplanet-2016-the-last-lighthouse/
Talk starts at around 6:46 minutes.
I think I will try to install arch. The fact that it has pretty much everything on the AUR is extremely appealing to me. Good idea or no?
>>53594996
Don't fall for the Arch meme.
If you do, proceed at your own risk, you were warned
>>53594996
Nothing wrong with arch.Just typical ubuntu shills spreading misinformation
>>53595011
If you don't have anything useful to say, except repeating memes, just shut up.
>>53595061
You gotta grow thicker skin, anon-friend
To those who have used Debian Testing (as a desktop), has it been suitable as a desktop for you? Did you experience any breakage?
>>53595011
You didn't warn me about anything. Am I being memed here?
>>53595023
Or am I being memed here?
>>53595078
But how?
>>53595114
The memes are everywhere, you cannot escape them.
Just do whatever you want anon, it seems like you have the time to burn anyway
>>53595091
If you read the wiki on how not to break debian you will be fine. No breakage for me and if it breaks I will just upgrade to unstable.
>>53595128
I wish I did. I should be doing my homework right now desu
>>53595157
Then quit procrastinating by fiddling with fucking operating systems and JUST DO IT
>>53595157
Spoken like a true Arch fan - procrastinators extraordinaire
>>53595114
Arch is rolling. This means cutting edge, therefore it can hurt; things MAY break. All memes aside, Arch broke X once, since that day, people keep this meme alive that Arch breaks X. The same way like Mint is backdoored and Manjaro insecure. /flt/ is the only place at 4chan where you can get at least a little bit truth, but always check everything yourself. If you want Arch, try it out and make your own experiences. Experiences and opinions always differ; a Arch user who ran in to problems with apt when trying out Debian may just ditch it, the same way some Debian user may try out Arch, run into a problem with pacman and may ditch it.
Read the docs, make your own mind. Asking for distro opinions = asking for memes.
>>53595188
Please tell me this is a RARE raging pepe.
>>53594894
thanks, this is interesting.
>>53595188
>sponsored by nike
>>53595188
I'm sorry, I'm starting now.
>>53595216
I'm not an Arch fan yet, I haven't even used it. What if I come to hate it?
>>53595262
Will do
>>53595216
Not much to do when you have a flawless setup.
>>53592845
Pls halp I want to fucking ditch winblows already
>>53592955
There are some blatant differences at times though. Not sure what the current state is but didn't ubuntu have there own init and graphical shell at one point? And didn't testing swith the default DE to xfce for a while when gnome 3 came out?
>>53595464
I'm no Raid wizard, but I chose Btrfs for mine because it seemed more convenient than mdadm. Your overall plan seems solid otherwise, though. No need to mount the NTFS backup drives read-only, but doesn't hurt, I guess.
>>53595464
>implying at this hour there is anyone with knowledge to help you
>implying we aren't here just to act smug
But your solution looks okay. I would try it.
>>53595551
>>53595464
>No need to mount the NTFS backup drives read-only, but doesn't hurt, I guess.
All he wants to do is copy the content from backup drives to main drives (already on ext4).
Mounting them as read-only does make sense.
For crucial data I have paranoia too.
>Btrfs
Good Idea too, especially if backup drives aren't raid.
Storing btrfs snapshots on the backup drives sounds solid.
>>53593672
The client doesn't (have to) stream the music. Just control the server.
>>53595588
>For crucial data I have paranoia too.
Fair enough, I can sympathise with that.
What do you guys think of Trisquel?
Does it have any real use or is it just a cute little distro?
>>53594129
I think those device names are assigned by the kernel not udev. So ... if they are both sata drives then swap what sata ports they connect to around! Presumably it is tied to hardware enumeration order.
>>53595551
>>53595557
>>53595588
Thanks lads. Can I expect some strange results copying from NTFS to ext4 or should it just werk?
It's about 7tb of data spread to ~400,000 files but no crazy folder structures or anything.
>>53595681
if you don't need any nonfree firmware it's great but if you need it you are pretty much fucked. the trisquel forums are full of knowledgeable people.
>>53595741
most of it will just work but corruption can happen, look out for it.
>>53595681
I suppose it's nice if you like Ubuntu LTS releases but want to be free.
Are there any FSF-approved distributions based on Fedora other than the dead BLAG?
For an old intel atom laptop, around 10 years old, would you recommend Xubuntu or Lubuntu? And why?
>>53595741
I've never had any issues copying to and from NTFS partitions. There used to be a time when the NTFS driver was really unreliable, but that was years and years and years ago.
>>53595780
fedora has very strong free software guidelines, why not just compile linux-libre on it and be done with it?
>>53595766
Is there a way to validate the files afterwards?
I was about to install Arch as my first linux distro but then I started asking myself, why am I even doing it? Wouldn't it make my life just a bit more complicated? Wouldn't I just use wine to run a lot of shit instead of just using windows?
I really want to install it because it seems cool to be able to do whatever the hell you want with your OS, but I'm fearing it's just a passing whim I will get tired of. Am I wrong/right?
>>53595798
The first Atom processors were released in 2008. Huh, I guess that is fairly close to ten years ago.
LXDE is lighter than Xfce, is it not? So between the two of them, I'd go with Lubuntu.
>>53595091
I have been using it since 2011. The only problems that get all in my face is that occaisionally after updating and rebooting startx will fail with nvidia blah blah blah and I have to figure out how the packaging has changed this time round. Also I have had a couple instances of filesystem corruption with ext4 ... Oh also sometime new packages stay out of testing for a while but you can add sid to your sources and pin that lower then grab stuff from there too
>>53595846
You are right.
You're better off installing a linux distro more aimed towards beginners. Starting yourself off with Arch of all things can only end in disaster
>>53595798
Lubuntu is supposed to be lighter than XFCE. Stick with Lubuntu.
