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Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.
Isolation ≠ Noise cancellation
>For the newfags that keep replying to the "Belgian shitposter"
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>>53534356
1st for akg 702s
>>53556109
>>53556070
Which AKG bellow 300$, fully open, has more bass?
Repost from other dying thread.
I'm about to buy a ipod classic 5.5 Am I making a mistake? It's mint condition with no scratches on the back except one. $160. Is that too expensive? I'm planning on getting a Zag Invisible Shield for it too. How about if I get a scratched up one. Where can you get replacement hardware cases front and back?
When Rockboxed. Why is it only 5 band parametric equalizer. Why couldn't it have more bands? Should I just get a Fiio X1?
>>53556125
all of them
>>53556125
Bass is for niggers
K7xx if you must, wait for it to come back to massdrop
>>53556109
Yes. Finally figured out how to add bass properly with the apo EQ, now my 702's just became perfect for me :)
>>53556194
>Bass is for niggers
I love this justification for headphones having no bass.
>Budget
$50
>Location
Continental USA
>Source
Laptop and phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
If it stays on my head, it's good
>Preferred tonal balance
Mid-high. Bass is not that important
>Preferred music
Idolshit, anime and vidya
>Past headphones
Stock earbuds
i found pic related at some store near where i live for like $280 - $300. is it a good deal? i tried them on my Z5P they were not that impressive but i think that they need amp for full quality. i dont own one but i was wondering, do they sound better plugged directly with my laptop's sound card? i listen to trance/techno most of the time
>>53556270
Hi 2050
>>53556281
If they get loud enough from your laptop, they are fine. That's a good deal.
How are the 598?
Connection is finally back, damn summer storms...
So, besides a Headset argument, what did i miss?
>>53556331
Read. >>53556070
>Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
>>53556336
K702 shilling and shitposting, so not much at all.
>>53556331
Great but get the HD 558 instead if you can get those for cheaper. Essentially the same headphone.
>>53556336
>So, besides a Headset argument, what did i miss?
Shitposts mostly.
>>53556367
Thanks I will look into it.
>>53556264
Fuck off belgian faggot
Did I do good senpai?
(KZ-ATE's)
>>53556475
Worse than LG Quadbeat 3
>>53556070
>those bumps
Yo help me out getting rid of my ATH-M30xs because they hurt my ears after like 20 minutes
Budget - Less than ~$100, flexible I guess
Source - Scarlett 2i4 (Recording stuff, Guitar VST) or direct in to computer (Using it as just a headset for steam, listening to music, etc)
Open or closed: Closed probably, dont want very much sound leakage or sound getting in
Preferred Type of Headphone - On Ear
Preferred tonal balance - More Balance, I want something that can be used as a studio monitor headphone, and just sounds good I guess
Past headphones - ATH-M30x: Sound good (No other headphone experience), but they just hurt my ears so much and after 20 minutes they needed to be removed.
Preferred Music - Most everything, but mainly into Hardcore and Indie stuff, Hardcore: Expire, Knocked Loose, Stick to your guns. Indie is stuff like Mac Demarco/Real Estate
Currently looking at Brainwavz HM5 (over $100), Takstar Pro80, NVX XPT100, but I will look at any headphone you throw my way because I need to drop these M30xs due to pain
>>53556281
Great option. I prefer the HD650, best headphones I've ever heard to date
>>53556999
porta pros
>>53557118
These aren't what I am looking
>>53556999
>>53557118
Shit, I didnt mean to put ON Ear, I meant Over ear! Thats my mistake
>>53557173
Get porta pros still
>>53556531
Just post the FR. Ignore the CSDs.
>>53556710
Get the SE535 in there.
>>53556331
HD558 is better, it's more comfortable, it's cheaper. At any rate HD598 isn't worth buying anymore, since K702/Q701 are available at the same price.
>>53556281
Good deal, but you can find something better for less money.
>>53557521
>you can find something better for less money
like what?
>>53557545
SHP 9500
SE-A1000
DT880 600 Ohm
>Budget
$80 (flexible)
>Location
U.S O' A
>Source
Computer and phone
>Type
Full sized, over the ears
>Open/Closed
Closed.
>Comfort level.
I would like to be able to wear them for 3+ hours without any irritation, but if the sound is drastically improved, I can live with less comfort.
>Preferred music
Alt-J:
http://youtu.be/rVeMiVU77wo
Glass Animals:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z4ifSSg1HAo
Shayfer James:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-tOR_zyKZxw
This is my general taste.
>Past headphones
Only pair that I really liked:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0014IM2RQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1458228562&sr=8-1&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=red+retro+headphones&dpPl=1&dpID=41cGRK9H-4L&ref=plSrch
I like the design and sound of these, but I'm open to suggestions.
Hey guys,
>Budget
~50€ flexible
>Location
Slovakia. A good local price comparison site is www.heureka.sk but I can order from Amazon or similar sites if the shipping cost is reasonable.
>Source
An android phone. Galaxy J5.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized.
>Open or closed
Closed with good isolation. I travel a lot by public transport and the main reason I want to get a different pair is because the isolation on my current ones is shit and I have to turn the volume way up to hear the music properly.
>Comfort level
I don't care as long as wearing them does not feel like a headache.
>Preferred music
Pretty much anything aside from techno, dubstep and all that computer generated garbage.
>Past headphones
Pioneer SE-MJ512-K
Ideally, I'd prefer ones that can be folded since I will carry them around a lot in a backpack.
>>53557777
>Closed with good isolation. I travel a lot by public transport and the main reason I want to get a different pair is because the isolation on my current ones is shit and I have to turn the volume way up to hear the music properly.
holy shit you must have so much tinnitus by now my god
>Budget
$150-200
>Location
US
>Source
phone (galaxy s4)
>Preferred type of headphone
iems
>Open or closed
>Comfort level
Can wear for a few hours
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy
>Preferred music
Hip-hop, some trance
>Past headphones
Apple ear buds
>>53557873
IE80
>>53557218
>Get the SE535 in there.
Right channel has issues in the bass and it's present in all measurements. No smoothing in any graphs. I measured them at a (subjectively) very loud volume, probably a reason for the higher than average distortion.
The padding on my 7506s is starting to fall apart, they're literally glued together at the seams and the glue is starting to give.
Should I just live with it or try to replace them?
Because they're still incredibly comfy and I'm not sure some upmarket velour pads would be able to match that.
I'm looking to buy a headset for use with VR in a few weeks.
I have a large head, and big ears, so the headset needs to be quite big, and not clamp down. I currently use ATH-AD700's and they're absolutely amazing (pic related).
I'd also like them to be Over-Ear, as it hurts my ears having headphones against them for long periods.
Would prefer them to be Open-Back, but i'm not too fussy on this point. I guess Closed-Back may be more immersive.
Usually i avoid Microphones on headphones like the plague, but seeing as i'll be doing social voice stuff in VR, it's a requirement.
Would love some help as 'headsets' and 'wireless' are both something i've never dabbled in before.
>>53560075
K702 + Antlion modmic
The Sony 7506 headphones arrives and I've been using them for a few days. Someone asked for my review of them so here it goes
>sound quality
It's very good. I can finally hear the high details in some songs that I couldn't hear in my past earphones.
Also boosting the bass a little bit works well with the headphones.
The only problem I had was that I had to install some weird 3rd party software to equalize the highs down so that the hissing would go away.
>build quality
It seems fairly durable and feels comfortable even in long sessions,
but the rubber thing that prevents the cable to bend seems very weak and it can be worrying.
overall I'd give this an 8/10
>>53560117
Oh, sorry, i forgot to specify that it needs to be WIRELESS.
The additional wires while using room scale VR are just not OK.
>>53557873
SE215 is the usual rec. I would also suggest the ATH-IM70 as an alternative.
>>53558639
It looks a little off, but I expected that. If those are stock dampers, we are probably going to have cook up a custom RECD curve.
Try the ER-4 variants, maybe with damper swaps on either ER-4 or SE535.
>Budget
~100~200€
>Location
Sweden
>Source
Spotify
>Preferred type of headphone
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
mid high
>Preferred music
this and that
>Past headphones
Ive used a cheap logitech headset for the last 1.5 years
Its for work, so it should be fairly isolated so I dont disturb others as well as not get disturbed by others
>>53558557
>$300 is it worth it?
>>53560392
What can you tell me about those two? Can they compare to the ie80's?
>>53560392
Yeah forgot to mention that was with 330 Ohm damper, same as in the LE and I used the olive foam tips.
Does it really look off? Raw response looks fairly close to the one on Headroom and the peaks at 2 kHz and 3.5 kHz are due to the damper modification. Maybe the hump around 2-3 kHz is a bit too small but what else is there? IF has considerably recessed higher treble region in the raw graph and I got similar results when I pushed these really deep in my tube coupler.
I'll do the ER4 stuff later.
>>53557873
RHA T20
>>53556070
What sennhs are those?
>>53560610
I think the IE80 is bad, so there's that. IE80 is an upper bass/lower mid boosted, with some treble peaks. Very little boost in the deep bass if you leave the bass knob at minimum; the knob affects the subbass, but leaves the upper bass unaffected. IE80 has little sound isolation.
IM70 is midbass leaning in its bass boost, SE215 has lots more subbass. IM70 has nicer build, and a somewhat better sound than 215 IMO.
215 sound is pretty routine for cheap in-ears. Then again, 215 is smaller profile than the bulky IM70, with more sound isolation.
>>53560628
>Does it really look off?
I really should have said "if you are still using the grey damper".
The peaks and dips are the right places, but the gain is off by some amount compared to 711 type ear simulators. It wouldn't be too bad, that it is the grey makes it a bit of a problem.
>IF has considerably recessed higher treble region in the raw graph and I got similar results when I pushed these really deep in my tube coupler.
Show it to me if you will.
>>53556142
You could probably get a used smartphone for cheaper.
Although this isnt exactly "headphone"-related, what do you guys think of CIEMS?
Pic related arent mine, i stole that picture off the internet
>Budget:
Under 100
>Type:
Full size, Closed
>Preferred music:
http://www.last.fm/user/yaboisigfried and for pc games
>Source:
PC and galaxy s4
>Comfort:
i would like something at least moderately comfy
>Past headphones:
HyperX Cloud
and i have been considering these:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDRV6-Studio-Monitor-Headphones/dp/B00001WRSJ#customerReviews
>>53562267
Takstar pro 80 or brainwawz hm5 if you wanna top your budget a little
>>53556070
Hi /hpg/
Looking for a good replacement for my M50s. they have served me well but I need something with a cord that can switch ears or a bidirectional headphone
any suggestions?
>Budget
200-300 burgers
>Location
US
>Source
onboard audio on my computers MOBO
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
mid-high
>Preferred tonal balance
similar to ATH m50
>Past headphones
ATH m50
preferably no AMP or DAC required
>>53561873
Commonly overpriced. Fitting was superb though.
Why don't you own the best headphones ever made? Why do you continue to prep bulls by buying expensive headphones?
>>53557561
se a1000 is not even close to being better than the hd600
>>53562683
Little update on my T20RP Mk3 memephones: added some Paxmate to the inside the cups, put a small square of Paxmate in front of the drivers and closed off the baffle/cup vents with masking tape, bass and treble are still a bit much but it did get rid of a bunch of weird resonances.
Will probably add a bit more Paxmate to the inside of the cups and stuff some cotton in there to tame the bass, and might try more Paxmate squares or cotton in front of the drivers to reduce treble peaks.
>>53562596
You may be looking for something like the DT-770 in either 32 or 80 Ohm
>>53562818
>cotton in front of the drivers
Felt* in front of the driver, damn it.
>Budget
150-160 USD max.
>Location
Denmark
>Source
Laptop, iPhone, Mixer
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Should be comfortable enough for long mixing sessions and everyday use.
>Preferred tonal balance
V-shaped or bassy (Important that the bass sits well without drowning out highs)
>Preferred music
(Deep) House, techno, Jungle, Ambient, (club and dance music)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5nnLzeBZK0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-kxlxog7M0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMmhS60T8gc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HxilC336l0
>Past headphones
For the last 3-4 years my philips citiscape uptowns have been my all-rounds, and they are definitely the best pair of headphones i've had. Very comfy, durable and nice-sounding for their price, but now they have sadly collapsed.
Before that I had AIAIAI in-ears that hurt my ear lobes and fell apart within 2 months.
>>53562944
is there any difference in sound quality between the 80ohm and 30 ohm versions?
>>53563108
Nah, the 80 Ohm one just needs a bit more power, but I'm not entirely sure if the onboard audio jack is able to do that. It shouldn't be a problem with the 32 Ohm one though
>>53563172
cool, thanks for the advice
>>53562961
Beyerdynamic custom one pro ville være min anbefaling, hvis budgettet strækker sig til det
>>53563273
Ok, tak for tippet!
De er godt nok lidt over budget, men hvis de holder til hæftig brug i lang tid, så lyder det slet ikke så dårligt!
HD800S or STAX L-700?
>>53565024
Stax SR-007
>>53565032
They cost like $2,700 in where I live, way out of my budget.
>>53565044
Dunno man, How about audition other headphone like HiFiman or Audeze before deciding between two?
>>53565024
800S. Try considering Ether or LCD-X as well.
Is HiRes a meme?
>>53565850
No.
What truly neutral studio headphones would you guys recommend? Preferably less than 600-800 dollarinos.
>>53565859
I have five HiRes albums so far. They barely sound any different than CD versions.
>>53565869
HD600.
>>53565918
I forgot I had this laying around.
My first 24/192khz album: The Velvet Underground and Nico.
>3.15GB
I'll listen to it a few times and rethink my stance on HiRes...
>>53563165
DELETE THSAIDASHJDOIA;D/ASDHALJDADA JN; ALD
>Budget: $70 and under
>Location: US, Los Angeles
>Source: Note 4 or tablet
>Preferred type of headphone: IEM
>Comfort level: Pretty high
>Preferred music: Rap, classic rock, funk/soul, top 40s
>Past headphones: Motorola s305 are current.
Basically I just want something I can keep in my bag so when I'm busy or just plain forget to charge my Bluetooth headphones I have back up.
>>53565850
For listening? Yes a complete meme.
hey /hpg/,
I'm looking for a new DAC. My current audio interface clips when playing back audio from my PC.
>Budget:
$500-700 AU
>Location:
Australia
>Headphones:
AKG K712
>Preferred tonal balance:
Neutral as possible
>Music:
Classical, Jazz, Rock (alt, grunge, prog, art), Metal (heavy, prog, hair)
I'm currently looking at the Cambridge DACMagic PLUS. It uses dual wolfson 8740's, and has XLR AND RCA output, with a headphone jack.
Have heard the amp isn't the best for higher impedance, but I barely use my dt150 when I have my k712 (but I loaned them to my brother.
I was also looking at the meier DACCord, but I would have to buy an amp to be able to use it, which I don't want to have to do.
>>53566748
http://www.addictedtoaudio.com.au/product/schiit-audio-bifrost-ak4490-digital-to-analogue-converter
This is fucking overkill for DACs already.
still using sony MDR-500 that I bought off amazon years ago for $40 because Im a cheap fucker. Dont see myself getting anything else in the future unless I get a real job but Im happy with them. more bass than kids and their beats.
>>53565850
No perceivable difference in sound quality. Only thing the higher sampling rate gives you is frequency response extension way beyond our hearing(the Redbook 44.1 kHz already extends over what we can hear) and higher bit depth gives lower noise floor(the usual 16 bits would give about 90dB of dynamic range without dither already) but this is not limited by file format at all in music. "Hi-Res audio" utterly pointless in listening.
>>53565869
Open back, HD 600. Closed back, DT 250 80 Ohm.
>>53566748
These tonal balance things don't apply to DACs and amplifiers. Looking at the chips inside them tells nothing of value.
What do you need from a DAC? Just something that doesn't have any problems with sound quality and outputs at line level? Any working DAC should be fine here. If you need more features and I/O options, consider something fancier like the Bitfrost recommended below or the DacMagic Plus.
Impedance is not a value which you need to know whether a headphone can be driven from a headphone output or not. Your K712 are fairly insensitive headphones and will be about as hard to drive as DT 880 250 Ohm or HD 600 300 Ohm and there are lower impedance heaphones much less sensitive than any of these which definitely need an amplifier.
>mfw another pair of earbuds get afflicted with the "lmao we only work out of one ear now" kiss of death
please suggest me a replacement.
>>53567391
>earbuds
Earpods
Siberia v2 lowest price India?
>>53567442
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=price+checker+india
Only semi-related to this thread, as I don't really care about sound quality, but only about comfort - what would be good headphones for running?
>>53568292
Low isolation IEMs.
>Budget: $250
>Location: Tennessee
>Source: PC onboard audio
>Preferred type of headphone: Full
>Open
>Comfort level: Decently comfortable, enough for a few hours with a short break
>Preferred tonal balance: Warm-Neutral
>Preferred music: Classical/Easy listening/Soundtrack and games
>Past headphones: HD 558 with foam taken out
>>53568413
I'm sorry anon, but HD650
Say I buy a pair of headphones that come with a balanced cable.
Is it worth it to buy an amp with balanced out?
>>53568419
is this the closest to 250 i can get?
>>53568413
Something by AKG.
I've got some 240s and they are excellent for games and detailed music.
>tfw DT880 pads turned yellow due the sweat
ewww
>>53568598
Ew yourself subhuman, indoor heating and cooling exist.
>>53568598
>order new beyer pads
>the pads are flat when they arrive
This is what I've heard. I'm not the anon in that greentext story.
>>53568483
No. Balanced audio is a useful thing in long interconnects as it avoids interference. It's useless in a speaker cable and especially short as fuck headphone cables.
>>53568413
There isn't really any better what you have now for that budget. HD 650 fits the description in terms of tonal balance but it's more expensive and might require an amplifier.
>>53565024
You've been asking about this for a while, so let's get at the meat of it.
Why are you only looking at those two headphone only? Why not another Lambda, the HD 800, or a completely different headphone altogether?
Some other thoughts.
>800S is not a great idea considering the glut cheaper HD 800 on market right now.
>There are plenty of things not to like about the HD 800, 800S doesn't come close to fixing them all.
>L-700 is similar to the other Lambda stax. If you want an inexpensive taste of Stax flavor and coloration, pick up a 207 instead.
>This is just my thought as someone who doesn't like Stax too much: besides the SR-007, if you are looking for differences between the Stax models, they amount to modest differences in tone, subtleties in tuning.
>>53568413
You might want to work in what you think of the 558, and what you want different.
>>53561873
People around here tend not to care about IEMs past the cheap China stuff under 30 dollars.
The prices can get pretty blistering, but even pricey in-ears can sound pretty mediocre.
>>53568651
is it worth saving up for the upgrade, or is the difference too small to warrant the price if my 558s still work fine?
>>53568674
i like the 558, but they're only my entry into higher end headphones, coming from using $20 sony headphones
i've been wearing them for the past 8-9 hours and they're starting to get uncomfortable, which is nice that they're lasting this long, but i'm willing to drop down to 4-5 hours since i won't typically use them for much longer in a session
my only complaint with these is that i wish treble was a little more pronounced, since bass tends to slightly overpower everything else without using an equalizer
>>53565918
Get a better DAC like seriously.
PX-100-2 for 34 euros for listening to all kinds of shit from my office pc, yes or no?
>>53556070
Does anybody here ride motorcycles? I've been riding for about 4 months now, and I'm just starting to feel confident enough that I trust myself to be able to listen to a little bit of music while I ride without zoning out and killing myself. I was wondering if anyone here could point me in the direction of IEMs that suit riding.
Noise reduction is a must, so is comfort, and just as a matter of preference, the more neutral the sound the better.
If asking for recommendations is cancerous then feel free to flame. I wasn't sure if that's what OP meant by "headphone requests" or not.
>>53561873
This thread is also about in ears. As for custom in ears, the options on the market are mostly average in terms of sound, overpriced and poorly documented in terms of performance. You are buying most of them blind, trusting user reviews and manufacturer's claims. Judging by the measurements of many custom in ears the performance is often comparable to best cheap in ears.
They isolate well and are fairly comfortable. However the hard acrylic body going deep into the ear canal isn't nice when you open your mouth/move your jaws.
I'm wondering about the resonances in the ear canal. Ported design could help with some but the hard end of the part in the canal could cause some nasty resonances in higher treble. I'd like to see someone measure this.
>>53568886
No shitposting allowed.
>>53568855
From your impressions HD 600 seems like a better option. It's an upgrade to the HD 558 in almost every way but sounds similar. Whether it's an upgrade you value is up to you, especially if you are using an equalizer already.
>>53568886
Found the head fi
>>53568935
Etymotic ER6i.
>>53568935
>Ninja 300
Lol thats a moped
>>53568965
These look like they might do the trick, cheers.
>>53568977
Mate, I don't even that. I ride a Ninja 250 :(
>>53560668
>being this mad
>>53562596
Vmoda M100
>>53568413
K7XX
>>53562961
DT770
about to pick up a DAC and amp, was thinking about picking these up:
http://schiit.com/products/magni-2 (amp)
http://schiit.com/products/modi-2 (dac)
they're right in my price range. am i an idiot for not thinking about some other ones?
>>53569407
O2 and ODAC is another option. Get whichever combo is cheaper.
Holy fucking hell, I just made my own SuperDupont Resonators for my HD800 and this shit is LEGIT. Highs so smooth, bass so much more alive and deep, it's just all around better.
I dare not say that I'm an expert on sound or have perfect hearing, but even I could immediately tell the difference, I seriously suggest other to try this:
http://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/superdupont-resonator-summary-and-interest-check.1558/
>>53569407
What headphones do you have? Schiit makes solid DACs so you wouldn't go wrong with them
>>53569428
Are there measurements?
>>53569436
some tma-1 studios, had 'em for years.
>>53569428
and pic related
>>53569457
Scroll down to the fourth post and there are links to measurements made by the community. While I do have some high-end recording equipment, I don't doubt the design or results enough to bother testing it myself.
>>53569428
Welp, 5 eur is no brainer. Thanks for the info
>>53556172
>cursing to sound cool
Grow up
>tfw fell for the akg 240 studio meme
>>53560249
>wireless
>open back/good sound
Pick one.
>>53569407
It basically comes down to the O2+ODAC, Schiit Stack (what you're considering) and E10K.
>>53569621
>not even being able to say shit
You have to be 18 or older to post here
>>53569662
About time someone got into shilled buying those.
>>53569480
>while I do have some high-end recording equipment
Matters very little in headphone measurements. You can do just fine with average computer sound card and a measurement mic. The coupler is much more important. It would be interesting to see some measurements by other anons here.
>>53568955
>Ported design could help with some
Just the LF mode, not the standing waves in the canal. And normally when you say "port", it means an additional boost in the low frequency range, something most in-ears have plenty of.
The treble problem comes from the acoustic impedance mismatch of the driver/nozzle fitting to the canal, reflecting sound vibration and creating standing waves. You can try an impedance transformer with a horn or damp the motion with resistive material. Neither solution is a complete panacea.
>>53568935
The point is that your requests follow the template.
Ety MK5 is the new model that slots in around where the ER-6i used to be.
>>53568965
>er6i
>discontinued
>>53569832
>Matters very little in headphone measurements.
ah well that's fine then. all that's important to me is that bits in music that made me slightly uncomfortable before don't anymore and the bass is now fixed.
my design varied slightly since I had different materials on hand, the foam came from a keyboard wrist rest, and the felt is four layers of felt cloth glued together, 160g paper is easy to find... the stuff people come up with.
>Budget
$100. Soft limit.
>Location
Chile
>Source
Scarlett 2i2, lappy, phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Don't care. Have had good experiences with both. I just good sound with decent isolation and no Porta Pro-type sound leakage.
>Comfort level
I need to be able to use them for long periods of time. Like, a lot.
>Preferred tonal balance
Balance but I need dat bass
>Preferred music
Hip-hop, Jazz, Classical
>Past headphones
I had some Sennheiser CX 300 IEMs which were my first pair of non-shit sounding earpiece. Not even great just not shit. Then I roughed up some Porta Pros for a couple years but they leaked and I had to turn them up to be able to hear shit on the subway. And now I need to retire my MDR-7506s for dog-related reasons. I loved the sound and, after I changed the pads for some fuzzy ones I got, they were comfy as fuck and had an even better sound. They were too big to use on the subway though.
>>53570196
As I was reading through your points I was thinking 7506, and then you said it. I'm not really sure if there's a better bang-for-buck phone that matches the stuff you mentioned.
>>53570196
Takstar Pro 80
>>53570253
ayyyy
>>53570196
Ideal price would be under $150 actually.
Happen to audition Piston 3.0 today, I can say was rather surprised.
If I actually listen to music while commuting I might buy it, but eh I don't. Still, I do recommend it to whoever want anything in that price range
Is this also a headphone amp?
Could it drive an AKG 612pro properly?
>>53570076
>bass is now fixed.
The mod doesn't effect bass but of course lowering a peak in treble will in relation also make the bass stand out more.
These are going to be my next purchase I think.
>>53571145
way overpriced, small circular cups.
How does the bass on these compare to the likes of K612 Pro and the HD558?
Looking for neutral-ish headphones with a bit of bass bellow 200$
>>53571342
you might want to wait for the K7XX to come back to massdrop if you want "neutral with a bit of bass"
>>53571376
not american
>>53571214
Oh, really? I read that the sound quality is great but build quality isn't all that. I just need some decent quality open back headphones with detachable cable but I don't want another pair of AKGs.
>>53571376
>neutral
>k702/7xx/612
bright as fuck mate
>>53571391
you dont need detachable cable, theres literally no reason.
>>53570718
>Is this also a headphone amp
Yes
>Could it drive an AKG 612pro properly?
Short answer, no. The amp section is only driven by USB and has extremely limited power. Unless you're ok with low/medium volume look for something else
>>53571421
>bright as fuck
Its ok if you like dark headphones but just that they don't have recessed treble doesn't mean that they are "bright"
>>53571048
that's a good observation, the flatter response making the bass seem greater in relation to everything else. It's impressive how it went from just being "there" to all-encompassing, from a tweak to an unrelated frequency range.
My Grado RS2i's sound congested by comparison and the bass is deeper but also very boomy. Still nice for certain types of music.
>>53571511
I need an audio interface that can drive the AKG 612, has a mic input and 2.0 output for studio monitors, and is also a decent dac/adc
and it has to be relatively cheap
any suggestion?
>>53571690
There is none
However if you replace the K612 with the SHP9500 or the HD 558/598 then it's doable. I think the steinberg UR22 might be a better interface than the focusright scarlett btw
>>53556531
>>53556710
Well they cost basically nothing senpai so they are perfect for listening when i'm on the move.
Why are they so shit though what the fuck?
>>53571779
so what can I do? Should I buy a separate amp/dac for my headphone, and a separate dac for my monitors? this would cost twice as much
>>53571815
>Should I buy a separate amp/dac for my headphone, and a separate dac for my monitors?
The FiiO E10K has line-out on the back and headphone out on the front - it's around 90$
>>53571837
so it'd be a decent dac for the monitors, and a good amp/dac for the AKG? this is what I need then
>>53571865
The fiio e10k dac is fantastic, can't get much better than this at this price range. The amp is not as good as an O2 but it will power even some 600ohm headphones too.
>>53571783
>Why are they so shit though what the fuck?
Are you asking what makes them shit or what is the reason why they made them as bad as they are?
>>53571511
Power from USB could easily drive K612 if the amplifier was efficient.
>>53570718
Yes it has a headphone amplifier too but the output power is often fairly limited. K612 is quite insensitive headphone, you might want to consider a more powerful amplifier.
>>53571779
As an owner of the UR22 Mk II it's also quite low in terms of output power. After the use of an equalizer I don't have much headroom with the volume and none on stuff with very high dynamic range. I've used HD 800 with it.
>>53571342
They have less extension and thanks to the brightness of those they'll sound bass light. HD 558 is a better option if you want neutrality below 200.
>>53571690
Fiio e10k
How much of an upgrade would a Sennheiser 555 over a Superlux 681 Evo be? I can get them used for 40€
>>53572079
They'll sound very clear and detailed compared to the Superluxes. Especially so if the output impedance is low. HD 555 has poor build but not as shit as the Superlux. Definitely an upgrade in terms of sound and comfort. 40 bucks for a pair in good condition sounds great.
>>53571891
Why did they make earphones this shit senpai
>>53572036
>HD 558 is a better option if you want neutrality below 200.
What about the K612 Pro?
Hey guys, I'm buying a msr7 for 12500 inr (188 usd converted). Am I making a mistake? I listen to mostly chill edm/hip hop on my pc and Android.
Thanks in advance.
>>53572293
K612>>>>>>>>>HD558
>>53572715
Is there a difference between austrian made k612 and chinese made?
>>53571422
Yes, there is. I'm using them with my vive and don't want a long cable dangling down.
>>53572285
No R&D, just copy what other manufacturers have done with their cheap as fuck in-ears and slap them into a new product. China crap.
>>53572293
K612 is less neutral and much harder to drive.
>>53572739
Sonically shouldn't be any. Some Chinese made AKGs have shown poor QC but I haven't see any mention of the K612 in terms of that.
>>53572762
>don't want a long cable dangling down
Have any twist ties?
>>53572942
I'll just get some headphones with detachable cable.
>>53572739
no, there is no difference
>>53572770
>HD558 is better than K612
Sennshill detected, stop shilling that garbage headphone its veiled trash.
>>53573022
You are going to get a VR headset with "long cables dangling down" but don't want to use headphones with them with "cables dangling down?"
>want cheap neutral headphones
>buy a 681 EVO by /g/'s recommendation
>feels good.jpg
>few months later
>this happens
fucking shit m8s i shouldve bought a 668b and not get memed
tips on fixing?
Just picked up a SMSL SD793-II, pretty happy so far, was only 70 with an amazon optical cable.
Also bought a pair of hd518s from newegg, saw they were only 50 bucks right now. I know they are a bit bass heavy/not as well defined as 558/598, but they do all use the same drivers, so I just wanted to try them.
>>53573111
>blaming others for your own mistakes
>>53573111
Nobody here would've recommended the EVOs for neutral anything. You could've looked up a single graph of them too to make sure how garbage they are. Also yes all Superluxes are built like shit.
>>53573068
The headphones plug into the headset, there will be a big cable loop, it's not like they are going back to the PC. I'm going to make a short custom cable.
>>53572770
>K612 is less neutral and much harder to drive.
In what way is it less neutral? I also have a fiio e10k so driving them shouldn't be a problem
>>53573174
no need to be elitist on me lad, needed something cheap and it came up on the OP wiki, asked a few questions in this board and bought it
>>53573050
stop spouting buzzwords
>>53573224
Why don't you plug it into headset, coil the wire to the desired length and use a twist tie to keep it there? The only difference would be some negligible weight.
>>53573311
Because it looks a bodge and I don't want 2m of cable coiled up and strapped to my head when I can just get a headset with a detachable cable, and make a short custom one.
>>53573396
>Because it looks a bodge
Stopped here. Planning on wearing it to parties and out to the opera, huh? You are concerned with looks when using a VR headset in your home? Really?
>>53573257
HD 558 has considerably smoother response. E10K will drive the K612.
>>53573425
No, I just don't want 2m of cable strapped to me head in a loop, it sounds uncomfortable.
Ordered a pair of these to try out, the bluetooth version of the Major 2. Might turn out to be crap, in which case I'll send them back, but apparently the battery life gets over 30 hours and just for the commute they'll be fine. Only £100 as well as they did a £20-off from the site.
>>53573510
Nice backpedaling.
>>53573111
Maybe you made a mistake because there are two (actually three) differents HD681: HD 681 "original", HD 681B and HD 681 EVO. The original HD 681 is the neutral-bright one, which is arguably the best headphone one can buy for 30$~40$. HD 681B is just the HD 681 with a little more bass, nobody uses them for some reason. HD 681 are cannonbass headphones with the worst build quality of the three, and it is never recommended here. I have the HD 681 for two years now and no problems so far related to build quality.
>>53573531
It's cute how desperately hard you are trying to troll me.
>>53573483
My main concern is the bass. Which has more?
>>53573510
Not him, but I do this and it's not actually much of a problem, I notice the cable a whole lot more if it's just dangling everywhere. Two twist ties and done.
>>53573563
You're free to waste money on Beats level idiocy to make decisions about audio because you are wed to some insubstantial cosmetics.
But don't expect to post such idiocy on 4chan and not get called in an idiot.
After more than 5 years of service and many solderings, the current cable, which itself is a shitty ex-extension cable, is thoroughly fucked too and I'm outta spare cables so I'm giving up.
Based on the recommendation pastas, I guess I'll be buying the SoundMAGIC E10. The E10S apparently comes with a microphone. Does anyone know if it's any good?
>Budget
30~50$ (ok maybe 60)
>Location
France
>Source
Standard PC output, occasionally Galaxy S2 phone
>Preferred type of headphone
earphones, IEMs, whatever it's called
>Comfort level
Better not hurt during 6 hour long gaming sessions.
>Preferred tonal balance
I have no idea what I'm talking about but doesn't V-shaped imply practically a wider hearing spectrum, which is good I guess?
>Past headphones
Sennheiser CX 300-II. Will the new one be shittier than this? Open to other recommendations too.
>>53573111
>>want cheap neutral headphones
> >buy a 681 EVO by /g/'s recommendation
> fucking shit m8s i shouldve bought a 668b and not get memed
no fuck off
both 681evo & 668b are V shaped as fuck
681 is neutral-bright
>>53573111
>buying knockoff AKGs
your own damn fault
>>53573524
someone got them & said they were absolute crap, and the frequency charts support his claim
cancel it if you can
>I have no idea what I'm talking about but doesn't V-shaped imply practically a wider hearing spectrum, which is good I guess?
no, sound signatures is solely what it focuses on. What feels stronger. In the case of V shaped, both the bass & treble will be significantly boosted, thus sounding a lot stronger than the mids
>>53573111
Buy a K240
>>53573717
Too late, oh well. They're not for my main pair as I own a pair of P5s as well, I just don't want to wear those all the time. Some guy tried to grab them off my head the other day. So these'll do for some cheapies.
What are some affordable Earpod style headphones other than Apple and JVC gumys?
>>53573893
yuin?
>>53573584
Equal really. Both roll off but the K612 has peaky treble which will make the bass stand out less with it.
>>53573915
they're more "earbuds" since they're wrapped by those scratchy foam things
>>53573675
Piston 3
>>53573946
wait so what exactly do you want then?
the earpods & jvc gumys are just small variations on it
>>53574008
>foamless
>have two openings for better soundstage
it's strange it isn't industry standard yet
>>53574059
>>have two openings for better soundstage
not sure how this helps
>>foamless
so take off the foam?
>>53574078
>so take off the foam?
some earbuds are designed with foam it will move around your ear or be uncomfortable
>>53574136
a lot of the pictures are without the foam so I'm sure you'll be fine
they're seen as the best earbuds
Don't know who else to turn to so here we go.
I've got a pair of ATH M40Xs,and I want to listen to audio from my PS4 and my laptop. Are there any 2 Male to 1 Female 3.5mm jacks you can recommend or is this an awful idea?
>>53574386
similar to this?
>>53561607
>Show it to me if you will.
Here is a crapload of measurements of different insertion depths. Raw graphs, no smoothing, olive foam tip, 330 Ohm acoustic damper.
>>53574425
Exactly like that, thanks man
>>53574590
>>53574683
Might be easier to see here with less plots.
>>53574734
ruined
>>53574685
reviews for these products seem bad though
one of them
"Many people here intend to use this adapter to connect two audio SOURCES to something like one pair of headphones or maybe speakers. Let me make it clear... this is NOT going to work, at least not work well (garbled sound) and may even damage your devices. The reason is because if you use it this way, you're actually using it in "reverse." The real purpose of this adapter is to go from ONE input source to two outputs, in other words, the other way around. If you want something to combine two audio sources into one the right way, you need a powered mixer."
>>53574763
Oh ffs, I can't really afford a powered mixer...
>>53574823
what you could do is, you have m40 right?
buy a second cable, attach it to your console and drag it to where you play on your console
then just unplug the pc cable & switch to console cable
it's less tidy than just swapping the cable but less work
>>53574685
>>53574763
This, beat me to it, but here's a link.
You need a summing box.
http://www.rane.com/note109.html
That said, I did run a reverse y splitter for a while, and didn't have issues, but it'll hurt quality, and can cause too high peaks.
Also, I almost always had only one input on.
>>53574890
>>53574823
unplug the pc cable from headphones*
so it's still plugged into the pc and you can just plug them back into headphones
that was badly worded
>>53574853
>>53556172
>inb4 Muh output impedence
>>53574890
>>53574898
>>53574908
Thanks for the help. The issue I'm having is that I want two inputs for it. With my old USB headset I could just have the audio into the audio part, but then output my sound from laptop into the USB part,
>>53574974
like I said, what I would do is buy a second cable, as the m40x has a detachable cable, you can just hotswap them at the headphones themself with minimal effort
however this won't work if you want to use two inputs AT THE SAME TIME
like playing console game & listening to music on PC
>>53575000
Yeah my headphones came with two cables, and it's the two inputs at the same time thing I'm having issues with. Might just bite the bullet and get a headset,
https://www.amazon.ca/Audio-Technica-ATH-M30x-Professional-Headphones/dp/B00HVLUQW8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1458417158&sr=8-1&keywords=ath+m30x
how are these for headphones under 100
>>53575019
Meh, I'd still choose using a reverse y switch over a shitty headset.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001F347K
Is a nice selector, you aren't supposed to have two inputs going to one output, but it won't stop you.
>>53556070
Is there any good replacement for the sansa clip+?
>>53574974
>With my old USB headset I could just have the audio into the audio part, but then output my sound from laptop into the USB part
wait this works?
I always assumed the USB was just for power incase it had an audio jack and no audio came through that
alternatively, you could wear iems and headphones at same time
>>53575032
shit
check OP for requesting advice
>>53575047
There are a choice of replacements but all of them cost more (though better).
>>53575068
Yeah the USB only gave power and served as a mic if I needed it, but it got the power it needed from my laptop, plus I could skype friends on it
>>53556467
Pretty sure people know where I'm from and it's not anywhere in Europe, dunno where you got Belgium from.
>>53574853
Do you prefer the output from your receiver to the mini-i?
>>53574957
His case is completely different to yours because he's using orthodynamics.
>>53575220
I prefer the stereo amp to the Mini-i. The amp in the Mini-i never impressed me.
>>53575220
>yours
I'm neither of them.
>>53556467
>tfw shitposter got attributed being belgian for no reason and now I feel addressed every time it's brought up
>>53569428
>>53569480
The resonator doesn't even affect bass response.
>>53575482
The shitposter is the one attributing being Belgian to the poster.
>>53575559
belgian shitposter spoted
>>53575559
>trust me im not a shitposter
>>53575611
>>53575649
Thanks for proving my point.
>inb4 i'm not the same poster, i always use punctuation and own SHP9500s
>>53575497
As always people hear all kinds of things in a non blinded listening test. Lowering something in one area will emphasize the rest of the response. However the resonator has a relatively small effect(even if in an important point) so it bringing out more of the bass seems like a stretch to me.
>>53575699
It could just be a perceptive thing, yeah. I mean I can't really judge since I haven't heard it myself, but I have no need for it with my HD800S anyway.
Hey /hpg/, my fancy headphones I bought on Massdrop a few years back (Philips Fidelio L1 Audiophile Headphones if anyone cares) died and I need a replacement set. I'm picky about not listening to crappily encoded music, but I'm afraid I don't really know my way around the audio world, so I'd appreciate recommendations.
>Budget
£50-£100, not a hard limit
>Location
UK
>Source
My computer via "Logitech Speaker System Z323 with Subwoofer" - had these for a while because they were cheap and I didn't really care about speaker sound quality (I pretty much always use headphones)
>Preferred type of headphone
Well, not IEMs.
>Open or closed
Closed, but I'm not too fussed if my best option is clearly open.
>Comfort level
I'm gonna be a pleb about this, comfort is important to me.
>Preferred music (I always used to pick neutral on principal, but DESU I don't know if that's the right choice)
Vidya game music, metal, rock, but not to the exclusion of other genres - I'll listen to just about anything as the mood takes me.
>>53575776
>My computer via "Logitech Speaker System Z323 with Subwoofer" - had these for a while because they were cheap and I didn't really care about speaker sound quality (I pretty much always use headphones)
usually plugging headphones into speakers lowers the quality, I think it's better ot just plug them into the PC and just mute one of the two
>Closed, but I'm not too fussed if my best option is clearly open.
why do you want closed?
do you live with others or do you plan to use them on the go?
>Philips Fidelio L1 Audiophile Headphones if anyone cares) died
could you say how the sound compared to what you want?
aka did you like the amount of bass or treble, or did you feel like you wanted more?
I know it's not headphones related, but does anyone have a couple of suggestions for midranged speakers? I had some old shitty creative ones that are fucking up and the audio port for headphones is getting bad.
>>53575840
don't take my word for it but
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Speakers
mentions "Micca is a good brand that has some quality speakers for around $80 for a pair. "
>>53575818
>usually plugging headphones into speakers lowers the quality, I think it's better ot just plug them into the PC and just mute one of the two
Didn't know that, thanks!
>Closed, but I'm not too fussed if my best option is clearly open.
I'm at Uni, so I live with my family during the holidays, and at LANs it would be annoying.
>could you say how the sound compared to what you want?
..Maybe a bit bassier?
Also, just glanced through my library and I'm going to add "Nightcore" to my preferred music.
>>53575840
Do you have a budget in mind?
>>53575929
Hopefully 70-150. I could go 200 or so, but don't want to unless it's really worth it
>>53575929
>>53575965
>>53575859
http://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42-Bookshelf-Speakers-Tweeter/dp/B009IUIV4A/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1458420472&sr=1-1&keywords=micca+speaker
http://www.amazon.com/Micca-MB42X-Bookshelf-Speakers-Black/dp/B00E7H8GG2/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1458420472&sr=1-2&keywords=micca+speaker
Both of these look solid to me, would those be good then?
Absolute retard here, where/how is the best way to plug headphones into my computer? My new speakers don't have a port on the front like my old ones. I often swap back and forth between speaker and headphones.
I know that I could just plug them into the computer itself, but is that really the best/most simplistic option?
>>53575925
>I'm going to add "Nightcore" to my preferred music.
pic related
>I'm at Uni, so I live with my family during the holidays, and at LANs it would be annoying.
then you won't want open period.
>..Maybe a bit bassier?
>check graph
>they're already extremely bassy
hmm this might be hard
I would have said DT990, but they're open
Both pro 80 & XPT100 would need additional EQ'ing for more bass
>>53576014
I don't know shit about speakers, I just gave you a fast answer from the wiki incase nobody else answered
>>53576014
Should be fine, may be worth trying this DSP correction with them also http://noaudiophile.com/DSP_Corrections/Micca_MB42x.php
Don't forget you'll need speaker cables and an amplifier as well, SMSL SA-36/50 are pretty good or if you don't want to shell out that much then just get the standard shitty Lepai.
>>53575699
It is subtle. I wasn't expecting it to work that way at all, or for much of anything to happen. I didn't have a gripe about the stock sound in the first place but was curious about why people bother modding the HD800 and happened to have the materials on hand.
>>53576084
best is preamp amp dac(not that usbstick shit) pc, then without the preamp, then without the amp, etc. etc.
sound card is usually better than onboard audio too
then we go to the realm of worse than onboard, with shit like ports on the front, or through shit like USB ports, cheap speakers or monitors
>>53576089
Do you have a rec for an amp/cables? I'm honestly kind of new to having quality computer stuff and don't want to fuck it up.
>>53576156
The recs for amps are in the post, for cables you can just get the AmazonBasics 16 gauge or whatever, it's usually in related items to the MB42x because they're bought together so often anyway.
If you got one of the SMSLs you'd probably want the banana plugs too because their binding posts are quite close together and it's a bitch trying to screw down wire instead of just plugging in a banana plug.
>>53575672
No, I own a HD558 but thanks for trying.
>>53576086
>>I'm going to add "Nightcore" to my preferred music.
>pic related
Yeah I know, it's a guilty pleasure.
I do most (but not all) of my music listening on my phone with IEMs, so the EQ is probably less important than accuracy? The headphones are dead, so I can't even check - it's a vague feeling, and I could have been listening to some particularly treble-y stuff recently or something.
With that in mind, is your recommendation the pro 80 / XPT100?
>>53575776
AKG K240
>>53576189
>>53576122
Shit this is a little overhead my head, I'll research what all I need to buy to have a good set up. Thanks for the advice.
>>53576203
Timestamp where?
>>53576189
>>53576122
So if I got the SMSL amp, Micca speakers, and
http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Speaker-Plated-Connectors/dp/B00NB4T6RK/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1458421554&sr=1-1-spons&keywords=speaker+cable+banana+plug&psc=1
for the speaker cable, would I be set? I thought I'd wait to get into more than that for now.
>>53576205
>With that in mind, is your recommendation the pro 80 / XPT100?
pro80 has a bit more bass
xpt100 has comfier pads
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/TakstarPro80.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/NVXXPT100AngledPads.pdf
depending on your location, you might be able to get the hyperx cloud for less than the pro 80, while they're the same headphones but they come with a mic too
>>53576329
Sure, you'd just need two of those cables.
I CANT FUCKING DECIDE, FUCK
>DT 880 EDITION 250 OHM
OR
>K612PRO
???
its been 2 months and I still can't fucking decide
>>53576376
dt880 is a better 702 with no detachable cable
k612 is a bassier 702 with no detachable cable
do you want a better 702 or a bassier 702
>>53576367
>>53576374
He wouldn't have a way to connect his headphones
>>53576367
I'll look at both of those then.
Thanks so much man, I was completely lost trying to figure this stuff out myself!
>>53576222
I'll take a look at those too
>>53576390
>DT880
>better than anything
wew lad
>>53576431
other than the lack of detachable cable, the dt880 is a straight upgrade to the 702
>>53576400
He wouldn't want to connect his headphones to it.
>>53576460
Guy originally asking question, I thought I would just also buy a headphone adapter and put it on the amp, is that wrong? I don't really understand where the headphones fit in.
>>53576472
That would be a nice way to blow the headphone drivers. If your PC case has a headphone out you could use that, some of those Realtek codecs switch the output from headphone to line out and back on the fly, especially on newer ones.
>>53576431
>wew lad
nice meme you memeloving fucktard
>>53576497
I had no idea that it would happen like that, a lot of people online talk about getting adapters for your amp when you google it. Thanks for the heads up.
Thanks again, about to order that amp/headphone/2x wire.
>>53576376
it's not like you won't get both (and more) in the end anyways.
I have the K702 and I plan to eventually get a DT 880 600 ohm and keep going down the slippery slope.
>>53576544
If your motherboard has coaxial digital and/or toslink SPDIF outputs, you could grab an SD793II later on and make a stack. More conveniently placed headphone output with a good DAC and headamp to boot.
>>53576558
>it's not like you won't get both (and more) in the end anyways.
I'm too poor for that
this would be my first decent headphones
and probably my last
or at least for the next 5 years
>>53576390
is the 702 a direct upgrade to the 612?
>>53576632
K612 is an upgrade from the K702, at the cost of losing the detachable cable.
>>53576632
no
the k612 is a sidegrade with no detachable cable and more bass
that's why I said it's a bassier 702 with no detachable cable, because that's exactly what it is
>>53576646
why does the 702 cost almost twice as much then (at least for me)
>>53576666
Same reason the HD598SE costs twice the price of the HD558 when the only difference is a bit of foam stuck down behind the driver and the material in the headband.
>>53576687
I still can't decide between the beyer and akg
I mostly listen to guitar music, does that help?
>>53576721
see >>53576390
do you want a better 702 or a bassier 702, it's a simple question
if you don't want either, maybe they're not what you're looking for
>>53576122
>sound card is usually better than onboard audio too
Is this really true, though? Actually, is there any problem with onboard audio of mid/high-end motherboards?
>>53576721
The main thing I dislike about all Beyers are how small the cups are. If you have fairly large ears and don't like pads touching them the AKG may be a better buy. At the same time though the leather headband is more comfortable than the leather strap on the AKG and the silver velour pads are the best on the market for comfort.
For sound I preferred the DT880, better more extended bass response and no tinny midrange AKG 2kHz bump. If the 8-9kHz brightness in the Beyer is too much they're very easy to EQ down in that region.
>>53576747
no, most high end gaming motherboards and some medium end gaming motherboards, have pretty decent onboard
however, (good) sound cards are still as good or better than those as it's their only purpose
basically you should just start off with onboard, if there's a problem, get either a dac or a soundcard
>>53576735
>do you want a better 702 or a bassier 702, it's a simple question
I don't know, never had a 702, how should I decide based on this?
>headphone port is on the top of my PC
>clips with a "side desk" that extends from the end of my desk
>bends the cord a little bit if I make it fit
What the fuck do I do
>>53576588
then I would get something that would survive much easier.
I recall some people here mentioning how the DT880's (premium version) headband is not replaceable. Looks like it's pleather too so it'll definitely get worn out. You'd have to get the pro version headband instead and actually cut off the premium headband because it's not a clip-on type like the pro's.
Not having a detachable cable could be a cause for worry too. With my cheaper headphones I don't really give a shit, and I've been careless enough to get them caught on corners or my chair repeatedly. I'm sure eventually it'll get chewed up. You'll need to know how to solder shit to replace the cable on the DT880.
>>53576801
so, akg it is then? it's a bit cheaper too..
>>53576801
>Looks like it's pleather too so it'll definitely get worn out.
It's leather. They started using pleather on the newer headphones (T1 Gen 2)
>You'd have to get the pro version headband instead and actually cut off the premium headband because it's not a clip-on type like the pro's.
You could simply replace the headband with the pro one and slide the yokes into that instead of going through the trouble of trying to replace the padding.
>>53576798
get a better job so you don't have to decide on one headphone. Start with a neutral headphone like the K702 and branch out from there. You can't really go wrong starting with any of the K702, DT880, and the HD600.
okay, maybe not the HD600, but only because the build quality is atrocious (just look at any video review) and definitely not what you'd want on the first headphone you spend $250+ on. The cheap cables are at least easily replaceable, and if Massdrop is doing an all black DT990 right now, I'm sure they'll do similar for the HD600 unless you're fine with doing an amateur paintjob on them yourself.
>>53576861
K702 are not neutral.
>>53576798
what made you look at either the 612 or the 880 in the first place, lets start with that
>>53576830
remember 612 doesn't have a detach cable aswell
>>53576856
>It's leather. They started using pleather on the newer headphones (T1 Gen 2)
anon stop, my wallet can't handle anymore right now
>>53576872
>what made you look at either the 612 or the 880 in the first place, lets start with that
I don't remember
I've started lurking this general 1 or 2 months ago
I've started reading guides and reviews
I've started asking around what to buy with my budget
These were almost always the suggestions, here, and on review sites
>>53576588
I agree with >>53576801, if it's going to be your only headphone than having something that is durable and/or can be easily fixed is a must.
With all that said, i do have the DT880 pro for a few years and al i have to do is occasionally wash the pads.
Are those two the only options you have? What headphones did you had before?
>>53576895
I don't know about the K612 but I think you'd be better off going for the K7XX at that price range, if only because they have those memory foam pads (same as K712 I think) that cost ~$160 for a pair.
I didn't get it myself yet, but only because the most recent Massdrop listing had those tacky red/black color scheme. Not like they won't release it again eventually with how successful it was anyways.
>>53576919
I've got a superlux hd681f, my first and only headphone, it's 3 or 4 years old, it was cheap, but it's not really comfortable, the sound is ok I guess
>>53576919
I still don't know how you keep all of those around, I don't touch my DT880 anymore.
>>53576940
if you're coming of that, you should ask yourself one question
do you want more bass?
if so, get 612 or 7xx
if not, get 880
702 is fairly similar to the 681/681f, but better (obviously)
>>53576919
"See's vmoda's" BROTHA!!
>>53576980
>do you want more bass?
I honestly don't know, but I'm still probably going to get the 612
>Budget
£200-250
>Location
UK
>Source
iPhone
>Preferred type of headphone
Around head + wireless. On ear not in ear.
>Comfort level
Going to be exercising so comfortable if possible.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
Rock I guess but doesn't matter
>Past headphones
Momentum. Generally happy with sound but a bit too bassy
>>53576940
Both options are very comfortable, so you shouldn't have trouble with that, i don't know much about the durability of the K612, but i know a guy who owns a k702 for years and the only problem he had so fas is that he had to get new pads.
On a side note, darker colors tend to show less dirt over time, even though i wash the pads on my dt880 i still is a little bit yellowish, i guess no amount cleaning can fix some things.
With that said, i think you will be good either way.
>>53576961
Well, the DT880 is the best one i own right now and the v6 with Auray pads is my main "on the go" headphone, M80 i ocacsionally use around the house, the others haven't seen much action for quite a while so they are stored in the boxes.
I've contemplated selling most of them and using the money to help buying an upgrade, but i just couldn't be bothered.
>>53577009
Brofist. Always wanted to get custom shields for mine.
>>53576666
where are you buying from? It might be cheaper to just buy off amazon.com even with the tax/import
>>53576666
because canada a shit
>>53556070
>Budget
150$ could stretch a bit if needed.
>Location
Sweden
>Source
On-board audio
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
As comfy as my budget allows.
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Preferred music
Mostly metal, but listen to lots of things.
>Past headphones
hi2050, m50
>>53576646
Ufockingwotm8
How the hell is the K612 an upgrade from the 702?
I recently bought the 702's but the k12's look much better style wise to me, I don't really care about the detachable cable so I'd sell my 702's in order to buy the k12's in a heartbeat.
What is the actual difference overall m8?
>>53578166
Forgot to add that the k612's are £94 and the 702's are £130
>>53578166
>>53578206
Stop assuming more expensive means better. K612 have a more accurate response.
>>53578653
You know what'd be great for all AKGs? If they'd dropped that 2khz bump. I don't quite understand what's the point of it, makes some instruments sound tiny and sometimes even ear piercing
>>53578736
can't have everything
is it so hard to make $350 headphones actually feel like $350 for example
>>53578653
>Stop assuming more expensive means better
I'm not. I bought the 702's based on opinions from multiple websites and so far they are fantastic, however I have never really heard of the k612 but I have seen them in random pictures and I prefer the design.
If they are clearly better then why does nobody mention them on /hpg/ ?, so mnay people recommend the 702's but never the k612's.
On a technical level, why are they better.
>>53578923
>so mnay people recommend the 702's but never the k612's
I see the opposite all the time
how often do you lurk /hpg/?
>tfw left ear occasionally rings audibly
well fuck I think I have tinnitus. I get the ringing occasionally where I actually feel it, but what about that ambient ringing sound I think I hear but I'm not sure if it's normal or not.
It's usually my left ear too so I think it was during the time I tried the violin for a while, I really should start wearing earplugs.
what do I do, how do you usually measure dB levels accurately? Probably got hearing damage too from commuting on the bus with how noisy the engine can be sometimes.
>>53579125
Usually on the weekends but quite often as of late. I'm close to buying the 612's and selling my 702's on ebay but I'm not sure. If the only plus of the 702 is the detachable cable then why have I almost never heard of the k612?, why did me and my brother buy the 702 after a lot of research?.
I'm checking head-fi right now and the opinion on the k612 seems good but I can't really tell if they're better than the 702's yet
>>53578923
Looks like the K612 is actually a bit flatter on the frequency response than the K702, but overall they look identical.
I'm about to get the K702s anyways since I don't know what to expect from $200+ headphones yet so I figure I'd get the one I know would last really long because of the detachable cable and the easy-to-replace headbands and earpads. The only problem left is that damn elastic.
pic related is obviously avoidable but the point still stands that the cables would be a weakpoint.
>>53579277
I'm no expert on these things but I got an ear infection from re-using disposable ear plugs whilst sleeping a couple of years ago and now I have tinnitus as a result of not going to the doctors quick enough.
I have a slight ringing effect in both ears and it gets louder if i'm hungover or if I've not slept very well.
The doctor told me that it can go away but I get the feeling that he was just saying that to give me hope because I clearly sounded disappointed at the news and the fact that i'm under 30.
It's there for life mate, my dad has it from construction work and I used to find it weird that he had a ringing sound in his ears 24/7.
Now I understand and desu it's not THAT bad.
>>53579415
Do the earpads not twist off on the k612 in the same way that the 702's do?, and how is the headband replaceable on the 702?, why would you even need to to?, it's solid, durable and comfortable.
>>53579437
>I used to find it weird that he had a ringing sound in his ears 24/7.
I cope with having the fan on when I sleep, but now I'm starting to be paranoid that the fan might be too loud especially since that's basically 8 hours of exposure every night.
>>53579437
>but I got an ear infection from re-using disposable ear plugs
oh fuck fuck
I use those foam things like 2-3 times before I throw them out.
>>53579494
i meant it in general, I only meant the detachable cable as the difference between the K612.
I was under the impression you can replace the headbands (maybe not easily) since I saw AKG headbands off ebay
>>53579562
That sounds fine, from what I remember I used a single pair for roughly a week at a time and for a few months. The reason I have tinnitus is because I didn't go to the doctor when I initially got the ear infection. It was the first time I got any kind of 'ear ache' in my life and let me tell you after a few days it became unbearable. I'm quite good when it comes to pain and let me tell you that my only ear infection was the worst pain/feeling I have ever had in my entire life.
>>53578736
Could just be a result of the enclosure they reuse over and over again. Together with the weak bass response it just makes things sound like they're coming out of a tin can.
>>53578923
People recommended the K612 all the time, just in the last few months there has been a rampant K702 shill shitposting in every single thread, see >>53578875
>On a technical level, why are they better.
Ignoring the irony of you asking why they are better on a technical level after buying the K702 based on subjective opinions, they measure better as already stated in the post you were replying to.
>>53579288
Opinions on head-fi are meaningless in every sense of the word.
>>53579551
I've always like silence when trying to sleep and I still prefer it now with tinnitus. When I have to use earplugs I can hear the whine but it becomes normal and it's still better than hearing other people in the house getting up/opening doors etc.
>>53579778
>it's still better than hearing other people in the house getting up/opening doors etc.
That's also why I have the fan on, sounds awful if your tinnitus is blocking out that noise.
>>53579720
I'm half drunk now and I want to buy the k612's but I feel like i'm talking to one guy. I know the opinion of head-fi doesn't mean everything but it's more than one or two people on /hpg/.
I'm fairly new to all of this, why would you say that the k612's are better?.
I love the clarity of the 702's, in fact that's why I bought them for my first 'real' headphones. I like all types of music but recently I figured out how to add bass with the apo EQ and now they seem perfect.
I prefer the look of the k612 over the 702 and they are cheaper so I should be able to sell my 702's on ebay to pay for them.
I want to but I cant tell If it's a retarded decision or not.
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