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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/UtEixUJD
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
>yfw the guy who ordered this, ended up getting a mobo error due to shitty eBay GSP.
>>53507889
You think he tried to scam you?
Should have kept it, W701ds in good condition rarely appears.
Just spent my Goodboy points on an x220 very cool computer so far, but mommy's gonna be mad that I'm wasting money I should be saving too move out... aha..ha.. kill me now.
post qt thinkpads
>>53508050
>yfw she refuses to cook tendies for you as a punishment
Cheapest thinkpad I could get to have as a secondary computer for linux that can do basic web browsing and video playback?
>>53508081
Read the OP.
>>53508087
Ok
budget: cheapest possible that can perform what I want (under $150, under $100 if possible)
Size: Don't care, will lug something heavy if necessary, portability is not a concern.
Performance: Run linux and do basic web browsing and video playback.
>>53508053
I fucked up the spacebar on my x200 because I was too careless last time I took the keyboard out
this is suffering
Guys, anyone have link to this minimalism life blog where guy described how to change your life?
>>53508109
>Recommended models:
>T420 - 14", normal size
>>53508109
t400/410, x200/201, they can do 1080 playback fine
>>53508007
W700ds
Idk if he tried to scam, didn't lose any money, he got a full refund from eBay, I didn't lose any money. Didn't get neg feedback or a message back from the fellow.
>>53508109
T60 was able to play youtube video at 720p with ZorinOS.
>>53508118
discard all you don need
keep what u need
DAILY REMINDER
IF YOU GENUINELY DEFEND 1366x768 ON THE X220 YOU HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED TO SUFFER FROM STOCKHOLM SYNDROME DUE TO BEING KEKED BY THE LOW RES SHIT DISPLAY
>>53508281
Unless your face is a few inches away it's fine. Stop trolling fag.
>>53508260
i know but i liked this blog
I need a second thinkpad to make it even
Any recommendations?
>>53508109
Any R-series that originally shipped with XP.
Decently powerful enough with a 2gb ram upgrade that the Pentium M's can deal with browsing and 720p60fps video
>>53508390
x220
>>53508281
the human eye can't see above 1366x768
why change perfection?
>>53508417
That's what I had before the t420 but I absolutely hated the thing. Specifically the screen.
Was thinking x220T
>>53508419
Exactly the human eye can't even see above 4 fps.
On another note,
Just got a x220 and the battery jiggles abit. Not enough to disconnect but just a little bit. Is this normal?
>>53508444
Not sure man, my battery is also jiggling on my t420 but it never jiggled on my x220.
>>53508463
Im thinking of jamming something in there to stop it lol.
Just hopping in to say I love my X220T. Thanks guys.
>>53508444
Yes it's normal.
Jioggles on my T520 a bit, and a lot of T520 users have reported the same.
You can use a piece of paper to stop it from jiggling.
>>53508518
Want to get one as well, to use a secondary laptop.
Can't find any good deals though...
>>53508478
Yeh I'm contemplating some strips of hot glue on both sides of the battery or some electrical tape. It's annoying hearing it move around.
>>53508281
It's only an issue in toolbar-dense software. It's a perfectly fine tradeoff for Facebook and programming.
>>53508118
bump
No one answered in other thread. This thinkpad comes tomorrow. Did I do okay?
>Thinkpad x230t
>16gb ram
>Third gen i5
>160gb ssd
>Dock and case included.
>$350 shipped
T420s
>>53508649
That's like £250, hell yes it's fucking worth it
>>53508649
you did good son
x240 owner. Rarely mentioned but decent machine if you know how to tweak some stuff ( for example switch keys etc.).
>>53507889
Damn the W700DS is such a sexy machine, even saw that listing a while back, just too expensive to impulse buy to fuck around with
Got a Lenovo thinkpad t61 the other day but the battery only lasts 2 hours.
https://www.amazon.ca/Laptop-Replacement-Battery-ThinkPad-widescreen/dp/B006KXAOQ6
is this a good choice? is there somewhere better to buy batteries?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/CSL-Express-compatible-Notebook-internal/dp/B00W503EF6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1458079505&sr=8-1&keywords=ExpressCard+34mm+to+USB+3.0
Will this work in a t420 express card slot?
>>53508281
b-b-but, muh IPS panel
>put w520 to sleep
>sometimes wakes up exactly an hour later for an "unknown" reason
>sleep timers are off, no piece of hardware is allowed to wake the laptop
>have no idea what triggers this
Any ideas?
Also the audio stutters when the msata ssd is being written to at a relatively high rate.
The key saying PrtSc means print screen right? How do I get it to work on KDE Plasma 5? (t450s)
>>53509652
>Using Linux
>>53509752
Who are you quoting?
some guy in my city is selling his t61 for like 100$ on kijiji. Should I get that fucker? 2gb ram, intel core duo, 160gb hdd
>>53509861
Get a T400 or Latitude E6400 for that money, the 45nm Penryn kicks ass.
>>53510052
these a t400 for 125$ worth?
>>53510115
Yeah, they're really cheap, I suggest the Penryns because not only are the chips faster, but the entire Montineva chipset is a lot better.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-Lenovo-ThinkPad-14-1-T400-Notebook-Core-2-Duo-2-26Ghz-3GB-160GB-2773-A34-/182052049931?hash=item2a6325d40b:g:PNEAAOSwZ8ZW4701
>>53509564
my iMac has this exact same problem!
i have no ideia whats causing it
>>53510138
ok,
>70$ for shipping
so it's not a waste of money to buy one as my school laptop?
>>53510236
Not at all, my sisters done college work my Penryn dell, and it was great.
>>53509564
wake on lan in bios?
>>53510236
how its 70$ for shipping?
do you live in africa?
>>53510236
Might have to get a T400 adapter as well, the listing I linked doesn't come with one.
My history with thinkpads:
- 2 years ago bought a x220 for 200 bucks and a SSD, then sold it because I didnt use it, ever for 280.
- 1 year ago bought 2 T61s in Venezuela for 50 bucks, working.
- Sold one for 40(had a inverter damaged), changed thermal paste on the other and was my daily for a year.
- Bought a T400 with some error of HDD for 50 bucks, and keyboard with 12 missing caps, turned out it was just mal connected, gave it my t61 kb and sold it for 80 just now.
- Bought a Keyboard (going for it tomorrow) and replacing my T61 one (12 missing caps) and selling that for 60 bucks.
I dont think I'll use laptops again, but it was nice for the time being.
Hello guys, i have a t420, i updated the bios from 1.46 to 1.48 by error, can i go vlback to 1.46 even if the lenovo site tells me its impossible?
>>53510430
whats wrong with 1.48?
>>53508649
Paid too much.
JK for what you got, damn good.
>>53508888
>dem quads
Yeah... surprisingly it held its value well, I spent maybe $1400 tops on it if anything and it sold for $950 still after some abuse.
I never really cleaned out the fans on it much, maybe 3 times since I had it, kept cool and never overheated with its ATI 3700M GPU. :)
>>53510236
>70 shipping
way too overpriced, they must be charging by weight on USPS and not using a large flat rate box, unless you in another country.
>>53510405
My experience with Thinkpads:
- got a T450s with some upgrades last year
- love it so far
- ordered ultra dock 170W today
- will probably get my next thinkpad after I finish studying in 2018. Love the brand so far.
- Sent from my thinkpad
Bought a thinkpad on ebay the other day. I got an awesome deal and I'm somewhat sceptical. If it arrives and is not as described, is it easy to get a refund? I've never ordered anything used off ebay.
>>53510444
My pc has 16 gb of ram and an nvidia card, the xx20 models suffer from bsod or reboots on windows and gnu/ linux, the problem was solved by a user for the 1.46 bios, so i need to go back to flash it but the lenovo site tells me it is impossible
>>53510509
Ebay and amazon love to suck off the customer, you'll be fine with a return if it isn't as described.
>>53510530
Thank you
>>53510207
Do you use any kind of virtual machine? It seems to happen more often when I have a VM paused/saved when I put the laptop to sleep
>>53510262
Pretty sure I disabled it, but I'll check again.
will my thinkpad help me see code like pic related, like on my walls and shit?
>>53510571
i have virtualbox installed
already tried put to sleep with everything closed, the problem still persists
I guess its a OSX bug in my case, because the computer wakes up but the screen stays off
>>53510684
No only good old fashion american code
>>53510305
>>53510474
I live in Quebec city, Canada. US>CAD hurts wallets right now
>>53510937
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-portables/ville-de-quebec/lenovo-t400-en-excellente-condition/1142666560?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true&siteLocale=en_CA
here's the offer I found
>>53510937
Ouch that sucks
>tfw I have DUI and would go to jail if I went to canada
Good luck mr canuck
>>53510954
Good find, and it's got 4GB of ram, so you don't have to mess with it for school use.
>>53508888
>dem quads
>>53511111
Quints on my quads
>>53511135
kek
1 hour and 43 minutes left at 95% is bad for a 9-cell T520 battery, right?
>>53511256
That's kinda crappy for a 9-cell, not sure about your TDP,if you're lenovo is decked the hell out, or even your brightness though, I get like 3hrs on a 6 cell.
>>53511283
Well it's a used one.
Thinking of buying this 9-cell 7800 mAh battery for $69.91.
Is that good? Or should I go to Ebay and try my luck?
>>53511309
At almost 1 hour and 43 mins with 95%, I think even a third party 9-cell would last longer.
>>53511327
So is that a good price then?
>>53511347
They do have these for a little cheaper on eBay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Lenovo-thinkpad-70-9-cell-Extended-Battery-T520-T530-T430-W520-W530-/111933427002?hash=item1a0fc08d3a:g:KPQAAOxyDlNTldXV
are third party batteries really that bad?
looking into replacing the battery on my t420s. Genuine 6 cells (3900maH) go for $90 while a third party I found was 5200maH and went for $60.
As well the ultrabay batteries genuine are cheaper on aliexpress than ebay/amazon so I might go for that as well.
Any input?
>>53511378
>Shipping: $60.71 (approx. 505.85 SEK)
WElp.
>>53508583
The best thing for it is that double sided white mounting tape. Its kind of thick and foamy. I've done tgat in the past on an x201
>>53511390
>are third party batteries really that bad?
Not really, I can pull over 3hrs with the brightness way over 50% ony my third party 6-cell, could probably go even longer with the brightness turned down
>>53511256
That's terrible, I got 2 or 3 hours on my T60p and T61 when I've had them...
>>53511390
I use 3rd party batteries, I've yet to have a problem nor has there been other people who had problems with them.
3rd party adapters are shit, I've yet to get an knock off genuine AC adapter (I dont buy them new, I buy them used if that matters)
As far as ultrabay batteries... I can't really say, sometimes they use different cell types for even OEM.
Who can beat a $30-40 3rd party battery with warranties from 6 months to 2 years?
my iBook has a 3rd party battery and its working great... now my A31p one isn't but I think they just kept it on shelf since 2003
>>53507580
I just got this today. What should I do with it
>>53511451
Install Gentoo.
>>53511451
Linux, and probably clean it if its used.
Read the purchase guide.
I Want a machine to respect my Freedoms. Is the thinkpad x60 a viable option? I'm gonna install libreboot on it. Anyone tried it out? how'd the install go? Good/bad? Share your thoughts.
>>53511472
Why linux?
>>53511502
Because Why Not?
>>53511519
Will it render the functionality of the thinkpad because it has neat gadgets and buttons for Windows
>>53511550
>neat gadgets and buttons for Windows
>>53511550
>gadgets
>>53511550
Serious answer, no. Everything will work out of the box.
>>53511502
why do you think /g/ neckbeards worship thinkpads? one of the reasons is good GNU/Linux support
>>53511451
>i bought a laptop, what should i do with it??
why do you even bought it in the first place???
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X201-Tablet-/252320765933?hash=item3abf7d57ed:g:v6wAAOSwh-1W52Nm
my fucking sides
The hacker known as 4chan struck again, now that guy has to sell it cheaply since it's broken/
>>53511978
Was $100 and because I can(but it will probably collect dust?)
>>53507889
If only that side screen wasn't so crappy
Is there such a Thinkpad with...
>10 hours battery
>lightweight (X series?)
>13" or under
>USB 3.0
>no fans
I've been spoiled by those features in my current netbook and I'm thinking of handing it down to a friend and get a replacement with a little bit more power. I could live with a fan if it's not hairdryer levels though.
I don't mind buying new, used thinkpads with Spanish keyboard are almost impossible to find on eBay anyway.
>>53512608
Look how shiny that keyboard is, owner mustve been a disgusting normie who didn't wash their hands when they used the shit.
I'm no gaymer but I want one of the new thinkpads with the best screen/resolution.
Any suggestions out of the new ones in hte lenovo store?
I'm working my butt off to chip in some money for my thinkpad fund, many thanks.
I'm poor as fuck and going into an accounting degree. Best choice? Only real use I need is Microsoft office and decent internet surfing.
>>53513547
Drfinetly get either a T400 if you like Lenovos, or the E6400 if a Dell turns you on.
Also if you want it in 15.6 inches get Lenovo's T500 and Dell's E6500.You can get them all for a little over a hundred bucks
>>53513606
Definitely*
>>53511501
Get x200
>>53513027
Everything except The no fans with the x220. Some models don't have USB 3 but you can easily buy an express slot to USB 3 adapter. And the fans are pretty quiet too.
>>53513479
pls respond
>>53514080
Get a T460p with the 2560x1440 screen, if youre looking for something new with a high res.
>>53513547
X220 IPS is probably the best deal going right now if you can deal with the resolution and screen size.
an i5 1600x900 T420 will keep you going for a few years with no problems if you can deal with the TN display.
I've been using this T420 for over a year now and it's just a tank. bought it for under $200 and it was fine as it was, but I put in some upgrades and now it's just a fantastic machine. If I had to, I could keep using it for years to come.
/tpg/, do you think it's viable to take an x220 and keep it relatively up to date in hardware for twenty years?
>>53514537
no. we probably won't even use laptops in 20 years.
if you go back 20 years you're at the dawn of mainstream internet and most people used beige desktops from Packard Bell and IBM. the modern laptop had just been invented.
go back another 20 and the "personal computer" was something only known of by hobbyist nerds.
20 years in the future your X220 might still function but "relatively up to date" is just insanity
>>53512692
yeah it was a big dissapointment, gimmicky but... awesome somehow lol
>>53513027
I was gonna say T430s but 14" screen
idk about that battery life tho, maybe with ultrabay battery
>>53514080
Something with an i7 and K5000m GPU?
IDK really, I want an P70 but I know I shouldn't be able to afford it... or get something i REALLY need.
>>53514639
Honestly in 20 years we would probably have telepathic communication with our environment.
Computers will be everywhere, but it wouldn't even be called that or even internet of things, it probably would be called ultra reality or some shit.
>tfw being able to communicate to everyone that you do not want to be disturbed when you go to a bar
>tfw everyone would laugh at the bum who doesn't have a comm device
Thanks /tpg/.
Just got the T420 I bought for $170 - to my surprise, it came with the higher res screen, despite the listing showing otherwise.
Is there any way to make the x220t's screen auto-rotate when you move the screen around
>>53511390
> genuine
> aliexpress
Pick one
is this a good deal?
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T420-i5-2430M-2-4GMHz-4G-320GB-Notebook-Laptop-WINDOWS-7-COA-/322040925657?nav=SEARCH
Have $1000 USD budget. Don't care about graphics but want a beefy CPU, at least 8GB ram, and 256+GB SSD.
Is a thinkpad my best option, what else is good?
First laptop.
How are the T430s with NVIDIA NVS 5400M?
>>53515819
In the US thinkpads are cheaper so you can probably get a T450s with those specs
>>53514908
I bought the same one but with only 4gb of ram for like $80 and it came with a 1600x900 screen. So far I like it, its a throw away though for my vacation to the seediest parts of Thailand.
>>53513929
Thanks anon, I'll see if I can hunt it down. The x250 is actually what I need/want but fuck paying north of 1000€ for a new one with an i5 and the 1080p screen.
>Ordered a Thinkpad off eBay because I'd heard they were very sturdy and the model I saw was cheap and looked suited my needs (internet browsing, video playback when commuting and Nethack).
Got the notification off eBay saying it would be delivered tomorrow before I remembered /g/ has Thinkpad threads.
Pre-owned x201 for 175 dollarydoos. I hope I didn't screw up too much.
>>53515935
How's the screen on T450s?
I'm really trying to get something sleek with a nice display if that's possible for $1000.
Bought a T530 for $240 with 12gb ram. Coming in the mail today. How'd I do?
>>53517473
>15 inch Ivybridge
>12gb
>The last thinkpad before lenovo went full retard for normies
You did well.
>>53517473
Depends on the rest of the specs.
>>53517495
No, that's the T520.
>>53513027
X260 on the store is now at $600 I think, check reviews on it
>>53517495
>still black, and ugly as fuck for normies
>>53517566
I think they went normie when they dropped 16:10, but yeah the sandy bridge laptops were the last ones to try to be classic.
>>53517566
its like they want to please normies and old thinkpad users at the same time
but normies hate because isnt normie enough and old users hate it because it looks too normie
W550s, FHD with i7 for $830.
It's such a sexy looking machine; go or no?
>>53517407
Pretty good, good enough for most people but its a bit dim from what I hear. Latitudes cost a bit more (still <$1000) but have wonderful screens.
>>53517495
Chicklet-style keys with good travel are much more comfortable
>>53516350
You meaning fucking ladybois?
Alright, you memesters. You won. I'm falling for the thinkpad+linux or w7 meme. I need a machine for college, because fuck it, I'm tired of handwriting.
I need a thinkpad that is not slow as fuck and can manage basic stuff like word and excel (whatever the fuck the libreoffice/openoffice equivalent is) and browse the web. God forbid I might even have the audacity to watch youtube videos. I know >>53508109 is in a similar boat, but fuck it, let's bump the thread.
I'm on a tight budget, I can get a t400 for 150$ or a t410 for 200$. The prices fucking suck because eastern yurop. My question is: Will the P8600 shit the bed when I'm trying to watch a 720p youtube video? How bad is it?
>>53508053
0.3mm Graphgear 1000 pencil master race
>>53517721
>You won.
wheres my prize???
>>53517721
Because of the prices in your country, I'd recommend a T410, it'll perform better while not costing much more, Core 2 duos in america are like $100 here, so I often recommend them.
>>53517749
the 410 has an i5 520 and the t400 is the one with the P8600. Both would have 4gb ram
>>53517780
>Both would have 4gb ram
Good shit, the T410 is also DDR3, which helps, and you're getting a 16:10 display just like the T400.
>>53517559
Starting on 1089€ in Europe (x250 starts on 883€). We get ripped off extremely hard.
>>53518201
but also consider the fact that you get 3 year nbd support standard in the eu
>>53518210
That's good, yeah, but not enough to justify paying twice the amount you do in the US. It's a shame Thinkpad X are almost the only option to have a small sub-13" screen and an i5. Most stuff in that size is Celeron N, and that's exactly what I have right now.
>>53518275
Also 768p and no option to upgrade to 1080p is fucking bullshit at that price point, especially because the x250 does offer that option.
>>53518275
>>53518316
I've just specced up a US X260 and a UK X260. Same specs and warranty.
US: $1,134.60
UK: £737.57 ($1039.77)
Funny world.
>>53518382
They're fucking with the eurozone customers. 1089€ for the cheapest i3 model is like 1200 USD
>>53518201
Use the US corporate discount, there's a sale that ends in 3 days. I hear US mail-forwarding with Amazon checkout works
>>53515819
Most thinkpads have swappable RAM and HDDs/SSD, so you could really get any one with an i5 or i7 and just throw a new hard drive (and a second one too, if there's an Ultrabay or a mSATA port on the one you get), and some new RAM.
>>53511390
>aliexpress
avoid like the plague
>>53519539
why
>>53507580
I can get 50 OEM chargers for $3 each.
Worth it?
>>53519743
yeah, for resale value alone
>>53519760
How much do used OEM 65watt and 90 watt 20V adapters retail for?
$10 and $25 respectively?
>>53519786
i'd expect at least that if not more for the 60ws
X220 or x201 or T410?
>>53519908
X220 for new hardware, but T410 for it's size and 16:10 res.
>>53520031
I just want a practical and good pc for university.
>>53520201
That T410 will do it for you, of all the sizes of notebook I've ever used 14' is the best, it's compact enough, but can have a high resolution.
>>53520201
x220 for battery life/ips screen < my rec
x201 for 1280x800
t410 if you want 1440x900 or an ultrabay odd/hdd caddy
Should I upgrade my x201's hard drive with an ssd?
Also are there any thinkpad models where you can upgrade parts like processors or maybe a graphics card?
How can I check if my x220 is TN or IPS im on fedora.
>>53519805
I meant $10 and $15 kek.
I can now sell all my thinkpads with adapters now.
>>53520418
Just look at it at an odd angle. Do you see weird colors? It's a TN panel. Is it still sharp? Probably IPS
>>53510731
need to get femdom
>>53520459
Looks like IPS but not sure exactly what I should be looking for.
>>53520502
Well the one in your picture is definitely an IPS screen.
>>53520502
Looks a lot better than my laptop when I bend it 180, probably IPS.
>>53507580
I'm looking into getting a thinkpad.
Budget: $500-$1000
Requirements: programming, autocad, light gayming, 1080p
Would be nice but not needed: 6+ hr (true) battery life, fanless cooling, IPS panel
I've been looking at the t450s for awhile now but I'm still unsure and you guys seem to know a lot about the thinkpad laptops
>>53520610
You should probably be looking into the W550s for autocad instead of T450s.
Since you make no mention of weight or size, a W530 with a 9-cell battery might be great for you too, you'd certainly get more out of one of those than a T450s.
Got extra comfy with my T60 last night.
>>53520525
OK cool didn't say anything about premium screen when I bought it. I was wondering why everyone was saying TN is shit
>>53520814
>I was wondering why everyone was saying TN is shit
Read up on it ?
Basically, TN is shit because it has shitty viewing angles and (usually) bad colour reproduction.
>>53520227
>>53520303
With the specs, it seems to be pretty much similar
>same i5 2e gen 2.5 ghz
>same 4go ram
So in the end its all about screen and size?
>>53520777
Thinklight is so comfy. Sometimes I use it to read a book too
>>53520945
t410 has a 1st gen i5
I have these partitions on a new T450s. The ext4 and swap are made by me, and win7-os is the windows filesystem, but what do the other 2 do?
I updated to windows 10 then went back to 7 if that matters.
>>53520994
>Thinklight is so comfy
preach
>>53520305
Even my T60 benefitted from a cheap SSD, so yes.
Most T-series (non-s models) will let you upgrade processor. Graphics upgrades are a mobo swap (9 times out of 10 not worth it) or external GPU. Lurk moar.
>>53521033
So im better off with a x220 in the end
>>53520777
"extra comfy" ? hehe please clean up afterwards :)
Hey /g/,
Looking to replace my 2011 MacBook Pro as the logic board seems to be failing on me.
The specs of my current machine are:
-2.7ghz 2nd gen i7
-8gb ddr3 1600mhz ram
-250gb SSD (which i plan to transfer from the macbook to the thinkpad)
-intel HD 3000 graphics (TOP KEK)
The ThinkPad has the following specs for $220USD:
-Core i5 3320M 2.60GHz
-8GB ram (not sure exact specs)
-intel HD 4000 graphics (less of a kek but still kek)
Thoughts? This will be my first windows computer after 4 years and I would like something to last roughly 2-3 years which is why I am considering this incremental upgrade in specs (ie. processor, shitty integrated graphics unit)
>>53521997
Sounds like you're getting a T430.
I've pretty much decided on this, anything I should know before I finalize?
What can I stick in my x230's ExpressCard slot? I tried my dick but its to big.
>>53522023
Would this be better or worse than an X230?
Judging by the screen dimensions it seems to be an X230
>Dimensions (WxDxH) 12.01" x 8.13" x 0.75"
But as mentioned I am quite lost when purchasing a used computer, let alone a thinkpad
>>53521997
>(TOP KEK)
whats wrong with integrated graphics?
are you a manchild gamer
>>53522134
yes
>>53522134
Not really, I only play LoL and use Photoshop rather lightly so the HD3000 does pretty well overall with my needs which is why I am not bothered by the HD4000.
I was more concerned with other users taking issue to integrated graphics as there are constant threads about AMD vs nVIDIA, and simply with gaming in general.
>>53507580
A X220 with an Intel i5, 4 GB of ram and a 300GB hard drive for 200 euros. Worth it?
>>53522176
>Thinkpad thread
>AMD vs. Nvidia
>gaymen in general
Did you honestly expect these things from a general about laptops that only feature either Nvidia workstation GPUs or integrated Intel GPUs ?
>>53522292
T450s apparently had a Geforce dGPU, HK exclusive though.
Though I do agree on gaymen being a complete waste of time. The only games worth having on your Thinkpad, if at all, are Solitaire and Touhou
>bought a t400 two years ago thanks to this general
>havent bought a new battery yet
>kinda dirty looking, havent cleaned yet
whats the deal with 3rd party batteries? are they decent?
I have minimal computer repair skills. what are the chances of me fucking the thinkpad up if I take it apart to clean everything?
also, is it really as simple to swap parts and shit as you guys say it is?
>old T61
>battery light is flashing orange
>fan is loud even at very low speeds
seems it's reaching it's end.
>>53508118
bump
>>53522522
>end
not even close
just clean the fans, refresh thermal paste and buy new battery
it turns into a new laptop again
>>53522064
it's shit... but it's your money... so go ahead.
>>53522842
i tried cleaning the fan already and that didn't work. so i'll probably have to replace it
never should have gotten this third party supplier battery in the first place
so far didn't even consider refreshing the thermal paste, thanks for the suggestion mate
>>53522081
The port isn't too big your dick is just too small
>>53522212
Looks like a good deal for EU prices.
just 1 more day
This may be more of a /v/ question, but does anybody have experience with how well Dwarf Fortress runs on a T420? It and Deus Ex are literally the only games I play on a regular basis, so having both of those two work would be nice
>>53523180
it'll run, friend
>>53523297
I could figure it would run, but would a 100+ sized fort suffer horrible lag?
>>53522940
>it's shit
Why though? Mostly positive reviews all around form what I've seen.
If the CPU can run at full power on charge without shitting itself then it's more than enough for my usage
>>53523095
Thats is defiantly not true.
>>53522104
Depends if you the smaller form factor for portability or larger screen size for more productivity. I prefer the large screen size, unless you travel a lot.
Are there any special steps or guides to running gentoo on a libreboot laptop? I assume it's just the same installation process minus the encrypted boot partition. I don't really want to use Parabola after getting attached to portage
>>53522489
Third party batteries have about 60-70 percent capacity of the originals. For the price, they're damn good. Avoid third party chargers at all costs though. The t400 is very easy to disassemble. Remove all the marked screws and the keyboard and palmrest will come off, exposing everything you need to clean.
>>53523538
>Third party batteries have about 60-70 percent capacity of the originals
yeah, but they have shit mttf
>>53520777
That's a really strong Thinklight.
The light on my T520 doesn't feel as bright...
>>53523617
I love it. I can easily read by it.
>>53522940
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-P-and-W-Series-Mobile/If-you-are-torn-between-a-Lenovo-W550s-and-a-Dell-M3800/td-p/2072401
Are you just shitting on it because it has an off-set trackpad/6-row keyboard?
>guy comes in to buy computers
>show him iMacs we have
>he sees my T430s but its closed
>"whats this, IBM? Its old *chuckles*
>>53523146
>tfw I cant use watches because I scratch my palmrest
I have never owned any OSX device and would love to try it out. I have heard that a T420 can work but there are limitations (intel wifi chips won't work.) Is it feasible to try? Can I set it up without another mac (pirate El Capitan)?
inb4 google it, I have and have found very mixed information regarding Thinkpads and most say another mac is required.
Don't touch the partitioning while on windows if you have linux on the same drive. It will fuck up.
which thinkpad has the best screen?
>>53523538
so, just remove the screws that have labels beside/above them? such as a screw that has a label for the keyboard?
Can anyone identify the two ThinkPads?
http://imgur.com/gallery/ATU8V4G
Thinking of getting the 450s with i7. Anything I should know?
Is it a good buy for $800?
I love everything about my gen 3 X1 Carbon, except the screen. The panel is fucking trash.But I don't complain overmuch since I paid $400 for it.
>>53525309
I'm thinking T520 in the front. Too thick to be a T420. The one next to him almost makes me think 15" T60 with all that palmrest space and its shape at the edges, but it looks like it has DisplayPort so that can't be right. Maybe a T500? The one in the back is a --20 generation for sure, looks small enough that it could be a T420. Can't be sure with such a limited view.
anyone owned both a mbp and a thinkpad? How is the trackpad on thinkpads? As good as mbp? Thinking of getting a t430 but this is the one thing that is making me hesitant..
>>53525648
Disable trackpad and learn the holy ways of the trackpoint. Within a week you'll wonder how you ever lived without it.
>>53520502
>not sure exactly what I should be looking for.
you should be looking for threads to tell people how inferior their pleb resolutions are
>>53525309
>http://imgur.com/gallery/ATU8V4G
They allow people to game like that at BWW?
Can I get some help? I want a new battery from Amazon, is Anker the only good manufacturer?
>>>/b/674249654
>>53525309
Is that a grill in the back playing UT04? Where do I meet this creature?
remembered I had a scrap toshiba laptop. my chinkpad now has 6 gb of ram and better hard drive.
feels gud /tpg/
its normal for the left side of my thinkpad to kinda warm right?
like its not crazy hot, but its definitely noticeable when its on my lap.
heres my specs.
its a t400.
>>53507580
Best vga to hdmi adapter for my x230?
>>53527937
>Penryn with dedicated GPU
Totally normal, my latitude with the NVS 160M is a real nut warmer.
>>53527948
does /g/ buy different vgi to hdmi adapters and come to a consensus on what is the best?
Just get one that works. Look at reviews and move on
>>53528060
I want a reliable but cheap one and many others here use them. Do you have one in mind?
>>53528140
Just get a vga monitor pleb.
>>53527948
Doesn't it have a displayport? Use an adapter for that
>>53528250
yeah, I'll do that. Thanks
I dont understand why people buy the nu keyboard models. At that point why not just grab a macbook?
>>53528319
yeah, do it. VGA is an analog signal, HDMI is digital. Any adapter would have to have powered conversion hardware, which means it'll be more expensive and need either a USB port or power jack to work
Displayport to HDMI is digital to digital, so much cheaper and no need for conversion
>>53528341
Still cheaper, keyboard is still a lot better due to its shape and concave surface, trackpoint, and dedicated mouse buttons
And no macfaggotry
>>53525165
That is correct. I forget how many there are total, but there are four holding down the palmrest across the front. Typically there is one under the battery as well. All of them will have a keyboard or microchip picture next time them.
I just bought a Dell precision m6600 and it started to lag like hell I would have 60fps in some game and the drop to 1 fps then back to 60fps
Any idea what might be the problem?
>>53528556
its a dell
I'm considering getting a T60 to play with/collect and possibly build a T601 out of later. What's a reasonable price if you live in Europe? Also are there any specifics I should avoid?
>>53511426
>>53508583
>>53508478
Is this sexting
>>53528556
Lag to hell in what? The OS itself, the browser, games?
>>53528556
somebodys hacking your computer
>>53528726
In the dell
>>53528726
Nvm didnt read the post well enough. IDK try the graphics drivers.
>>53528726
Yeah I have random mini freezes for like a second and then its back to normal i have the last 3000m driver's and still I have random mini freezes for the whole os
>>53528740
>somebodys hacking your computer
I have all my jav in my other computer ;v)
>>53528795
Disregard that im a fagot
>>53528824
is this memes
>thinkpad finally shows up from china have long ass shipping
>trackpoint feels fucked up and moves way faster to the left and up instead of down and to the right
I fell for the meme... FUCK
>>53528905
>Ordering a literal chinkpad
Is it worth it to replace my keyboard with one with Japanese key caps?
get your T420 here faggots.
http://www-304.ibm.com/shop/americas/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/default/ProductDisplay?productId=4611686018426609664&storeId=1083996948&langId=-1&categoryId=2576396&dualCurrId=1074768847&catalogId=-840
>>53529968
Fucking $350, I literally just bought one with the same specs for 150 on ebay
>>53530037
>on ebay
>>53529662
What would be the advantage of that?
>>53528341
>>53528395
Isn't the macbook keyboard complete crap?
Chiclet is still shitty but it's a key type, doesn't really say anything about the mechanism under it. Even the new ThinkPads have better keyboards than all the other laptops in its price range.
>>53530099
eBay has been recommended on these threads for at least the last year I've been here. Get out of here with your meme arrows.
>>53530142
The Thinkpad new keys are chiclets but they're still curved just like real keys so that makes it a big cut above, they also have a larger than average travel distance for chiclets
>>53530190
Forgot pic
>>53530142
>>53530190
Pretty much the main reason people bitch about the new keyboard is the layout. Once you actually use it, it feels just fine. People just want their 7th row back, and I want that menu key back because holy shit it's useful in excel
>>53530190
>>53530277
>>53530222
I have yet to try the chiclet keys, they seem comfy with the curved indentations, backlit would be cool too. I read the analogy behind it and apparently it yields less errors.
The price jump from *20 to the *30 variants doesn't make it worth it just yet.
>>53522952
If you replace the fan, buy genuine and/or already fitted in the heatsink. My cheap Chinese fan had different indentations for the heatsink tabs and was a nightmare to bend just right to fit in my T601. It worked, but is impossible to get perfect and best avoided.
>>53530147
then use ebay. you're involving more risk. I'm sure someone will use the link. it gets 1 year standard warranty, the same service as brand new.
>>53517495
>The last thinkpad before lenovo went full retard for normies
Are the xx60s not good?
>>53530328
I have a classic kbd-swapped x230 and finally repaired the chicletshit kbd.
I've been giving it a chance for a couple of weeks now and it's not bad. I wouldn't say it's better than the classic, but still great to type on. I haven't swapped it back, if that's any indication.
I'd say it's still better than the classic style kbds I've used (extensively) on business-class HP and Dell laptops over the years.
>>53530372
>paying a 200 dollar premium for a 1 year warranty on a 150 dollar computer
I have a Thinkpad T500 and wanted to add some addons for Chrome, so what do you guys recommend? I just have adblock right now
>>53530522
No Script and HTTPS Everywhere are good.
>>53530519
>no one was ever burned by ebay
Just got another thinkpad as a pornpad, which will be nothing but lewd and filthy porn, yet I'm wondering about antivirus and security programs that I should use to protect myself.
>>53530560
PayPal buyer protections are fantastic. I've purchased nearly 50 thinkpads off eBay and only ran into an one issue with an overheating w500. A bit of thermal paste fixed it right up.
>>53530607
install gentoo
>>53530372
>risk
Then learn to eBay. Buy from business recycling resellers with good feedback and a billion transactions. Read, reread, and read the auction again. Pay attention to detail in the pictures. If it's not as described, eBay will always side with you.
Buy cheap, stripped, tested models and DIY. You don't belong here if you are terrified of using a screwdriver and have the patience of a 5-year-old. You don't belong here if as soon as you get it, you don't take it completely apart to clean, nuke the hard drive, and clean install your own OS.
>>53530618
Is Gentoo easy to get used to? I've always used Windows..
>>53530522
>>>/g/sqt
Browser addons are an irrelevant topic to /tpg/.
Just got a x230 i5 8gb for $200 did i do good?
>>53530657
Well alright but you better answer my question there or I'm coming back for you
>>53530700
fuck you
ya
>>53530111
Weeb cred and A E S T H E T I C
>>53530652
Don't actually install Gentoo. Install Debian if you are new to GNU/linux. Perfect for porn with no viruses.
>>53530852
Not him but I'm planning to use TOR, would Debian be a big help with security?
>>53530898
What are you planning to use Tor for, anon?
>>53530945
Oh god no, nothing like that. I'm not some monster, I just want to use it for Silkroad
what's the cheaptest yall ever won a T420 on ebay for?
I always avoid the ones with no battery /ac adaptor? should I not?
>>53530898
Yep open source and no windows to get a backdoor to your information. Tor will be more secure than ever, and there are plenty of guides to get it set up and running.
>>53531111
Cool, so let's say that I'm encrypting files, would it be best to encrypt the entire laptop or a flashdrive? Plus which program is best? VeraCrypt or TrueCrypt?
>>53531224
Well thank goodness, you're not a horrible monster. I'd recommend using VeraCrypt and just buying a 128GB flashdrive to encrypt and make a hidden volume to be extra safe
kinda glad i found this thread. short story long, i have a budget from work to get a new machine and i want a thinkpad but I wanna keep my current monitors 2x1440p and 1x1080p. I am pushing for a t460 but... can i do this with a dock?
What do guys think of this x220?
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/12-5-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-Core-i5-2520M-2-5GHz-320GB-HDD-4GB-RAM-w-Win-7Pro-/131754049383?hash=item1ead273f67:g:gU8AAOSwZQxW6V4L
It looks like it has a small chip near the express card slot and some wear around the bezel from using the tablet but otherwise is it decent?
Sorry for the canacuck link eh.
>>53531352
>128
Is there any flashdrives higher than that? Like 500 GB or 1TB? What kind would you recommend?
>>53531380
>500 GB or 1TB
Christ lad
http://www.amazon.com/U32-Shadow-trade-External-Portable/dp/B001HO59WM
Just be careful, mate
Anyone know how long it usually takes for Lenovo to ship? I Just put my tax return down on a new X1 Yoga. i5-6300u, 1080p, 128gb ssd, 8gb ram. $1200. Shoot me.
>>53531449
Stop that, it's just for a lot of sensitive documents and stuff, nothing disturbing or fucked up. Most of it for work
Best OS to put on my x230 tablet?
Reasons please.
Is this worth it ?
>>53531476
I already put in an offer and getting it tomorrow.
>>53531471
>it's just for a lot of sensitive documents and stuff,
>>53531517
I got first dibs
>>53531583
Lol sux
>>53531471
> a lot of sensitive documents and stuff
>>53530486
Too bad swapping the keyboard doesn't fix the true flaw with the chiclet keyboards; the layout
Sigh.... I should have just gotten a MacBook air. I'm so dumb.
>>53530350
thanks for the tip man
>>53531637
I'll go against the grain, but having used both the layout doesn't bother me. It's about the key feel. If I were a programmer or something, I could see the layout change being a nightmare.
hey /tpg/
i got an old 380ED laying around that i found in an electronics dump about a year ago
gives cmos errors 161 etc, but after setting the date it doesnt boot into anything.
I do hear a harddrive, but its probably completely wiped.
is there anything i can do with this thing?
>i wonder how well it runs doom
>>53531449
>>53531471
>only 500
S M H F A M
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-DataTraveler-Predator-1TB-DTHXP30/dp/B00E65QM8O
>>53531693
>guess what I am
:(
>>53531693
every metric I've seen has the new layout just seeming better. The old design just seems like it would be harder to clean, the keys are smaller, and it has a nonstandard layout for someone moving from a desktop.
I bought a 5 dollar r50e just to try the keyboard, I prefer the chiclet one on my w530.
>>53531937
>744.01
Anon unless you'll allow me to suck you off for that amount, I don't think so
>>53531978
you save $1,565.99 though!
how would I go about binding the 3 buttons under the screen on a x220t to a keyboard shortcut (specifically undo/ctrl+Z)?
>>53531943
That being the case you should definitely keep your own council on the matter, even more so if you're a longtime TP user that's got muscle memory for the classic layout.
I was just throwing my anecdotal experience out there for others that are non-coders and/or tactile autists.
>>53531963
>harder to clean
It definitely is if you have cats. Picking hair out twice a day with tweezers is suffering.
I use a Model M on my desktop and spend most of my time there, so any laptop kbd takes some adjustment, old/new layout notwithstanding.
>>53531474
There really isn't one that's better than the others. Pretty sure everything short of straight Gentoo or Arch will auto-install the wacom drivers you need.
As for DEs, you might want GNOME, as it's very touch-friendly.
>>53531963
>The old design just seems like it would be harder to clean, the keys are smaller, and it has a nonstandard layout for someone moving from a desktop.
>it has a nonstandard layout for someone moving from a desktop.
Are you implying the new one doesn't? The Printscreen key is next to Ctrl for fuck's sake
>>53508438
220T here.
go for it! love this thing.
>>53508438
>>53533635
can confirm, the x220t is perfect
![6dc585f54b[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/csdDByb.jpg "6dc585f54b[1]")
