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Let's talk about keyboard layouts. Which layout do you use and why haven't you switched to Dvorak yet
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Gaymen, long transition time
2 lazy to type correctly and 3 lazy to switch layouts
However I would if I had alot of free time, maybe this summer or when I switch my mouse to my left hand
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Qwerty^ btw
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>>53033930
>Which layout do you use
QWERTYUIOP
ASDFGHJKL
ZXCVBNM
>why haven't you switched to Dvorak yet
I'm afraid of Welsh lake monsters.
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WASD master race
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>>53033930

Trying to switch to DVORAK as of yesterday. Typing this took three minutes. Every keystroke is agony.
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Is there a way to remap the position (not the letter) of universal shortcuts like copy, select all, etc? So that undo would be ctrl + the bottom left letter. If there's a reliable way to do this across the entire OS then I may put in the effort to learn dvorak.
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AWERTZIUOP
QSDFGHLJK
YXBVCMN

blank keycaps so that anyone watching me enter my password cannot know. this layout is an example mine is slightly different.
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>>53035234
AutoHotKey does that
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>>53033930
too lazy to change alphabets, not to mention different layouts. ....you pompous self centered gaylord
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>>53033930
I use the Finnish keyböärd läyöut.

I haven't switched to Dvorak because that would be retarded.
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>>53035403
I regret the decision desu
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>>53034214
It's not as much a problem as it used to be. Most games now read the physical scancodes (positional) instead of the characters codes, so if they say to press d to go right you just press the key where d is on QWERTY and you're good. If that fails, Autohotkey works.
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>>53035489
> implying there are any good games post 2005
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>>53033930
What keyboards do you dvoraks use on your cellularized telephones?
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>>53035882
The default ones. There's no benefit in switching to another layout if you can't use it to touch type
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>>53033930

this is my keyboard
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>>53035955
I see it's not so different from mine. Pic related
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>>53036005
too big
wtf integrated printer lol?
>>tenkeyless but wasted space
>>room for slide rule but not function keys

2/10 keyboard
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>>53033930
>Which layout do you use
Colemak
>why haven't you switched to Dvorak yet
Because I have no desire to learn a more difficult layout that's less efficient
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>>53036037
Well, yours doesn't even have labeled keys
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>>53036086

i just pretend, my imagination is really the limit
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>>53033930
I use BÉPO, a french Dvorak-like.

BÉPOÈ!VDLJZWÇ
AUIE;CTSRNM
ÀYX:K?QGHF


>>53036086
>need labeled key
ahah, faggot
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>>53033930
>Dvorak
Mastered that, and gave it up, since its nigger shit compared to plover.
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>>53036071
>less efficient
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>>53036159
>plover
Plover sucks for anything other than English
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>>53036196
English is the only language that matters
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>>53036196
>Plover sucks for anything other than English
For now. Court stenographers work in other languages though, don't they? It's just a matter of time.
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>>53035955
I'm new here. What's with all the keyboards? Are you bots? Is this the same like the banana trend in /b/?
Serious question.
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QWERTY, because it just werks®™
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I also use QWERTY on my phone. Hope I can reach a steady 60WPM some day. Maybe I will when I get a 5.5" phone.
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I use qwerty like a normal human being.
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Tried DVORAK for six months, never got past 60WPM. I average 80 on QWERTY. I'm a writer, so the tradeoff wasn't worth it.
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>>53036235
>Court stenographers work in other languages though, don't they?
I don't know what they use, but it's not Stenotyping. It seems to be something specific to the USA.
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>>53036356
>I don't know what they use, but it's not Stenotyping. It seems to be something specific to the USA.
Well then your nigger country needs to git gud.
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>>53036244
>>I'm new here. What's with all the keyboards?

this should be the new /g/ header
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I can't even write on QWERTY properly, why would I learn DVORAK
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>>53036377
Yeah but that's like every other country on the planet.

Plover has a fundamental problem with multiple languages. You can't use the same dictionary for different languages because that would cause syllable conflicts or whatever you want to call it. So you'd have to learn a whole fucking dictionary for every language you want to write in. Seeing as it's a ton of work to get good at one language, I can't imagine the work it'd take to learn 2+ languages.

This is why Plover will never succeed outside the US. Still a great concept though.
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>>53036416
>I can't even write on QWERTY
Dvorak is supposed te be simpler that QWERTY.
The reason of Dvorak is that QWERTY is a piece of shit that should never have existed.

They invented qwerty because if you type too fast the type-machine broke down. Then we got better type machines, and people were like "meh, I've learned qwerty, let's not change the layout." Qwerty is supposed to be difficult and a pain in the ass to use.
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>>53033930
>>53036071
>not using qgmlwy or other layouts optimized by a computer trying to type big ass books

Around April 2014 I switched from qwerty to dvorak (no labels because I was training myself to touch type by looking at pictures of the layout) and after maybe 3 months I was back up to about 60 (was probably never that fast on qwerty due to my aspie retard method of typing without pinkies and hands floating all over everywhere). About a year after that, I was sitting like right at 100wpm, which was pretty good but I was feeling like my right hand was doing too much and muh muh balance in all things. A little after that I said fuck that shit and swapped to qgmlwy about 4-5 months ago, and now I'm hanging out around 90wpm, and eveytime I have to type on a qwerty keyboard I die on the inside a little.
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>>53036466
The main point being that it is literally impossible to learn two different dictionaries unless you're a crazy.
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>>53036562
>>53036491

>>not enjoying the feeling of your fingers snaking like an octopus in every direction at once on the keyboard without conscious control while you think words and they appear
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>>53036562
>not using qgmlwy or other layouts optimized by a computer trying to type big ass books
I've heard of some obscure layouts but I've never heard about this one.
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>>53036664
If I were to switch right now I would choose either qgmlwy (or others on carpalxs website) or workman
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>>53034474
I know that feel bro. However, this message took me about 30s to type. I'm getting there.
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To anyone who types with Dvorák, what speed do you type at? Because I'm typing at 100wpm with QWERTY and I don't really see the point in switching.
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>>53036562
>optimized by a computer trying to type big ass books
I don't write books. I program. I need to write shitloads of special characters.
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>>53037065
Dont switch. If you truly want to improve and reach 180wpm or even 230 wpm (when you get really good), learn Plover.
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>>53036071
Meh it's huge debate over hand alternation vs. hand rolls (I as a colemak user) still believe that alternation will win out on the efficiency for speed at least. But for comfort I def believe colemak is ergonomic long run.
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i wish one of you that knew some shit would elaborate about typisting. i'm learning to program and have realized that like... being a good programmer is about 50% being a good typist. i'm using typing training software to learn legit touch typing technique with qwerty. would be interested in this stuff. i can type efficiently without looking at the keys and stuff but use backspace too much and my left hand does 75% of the work...
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>>53037907
your own fault for expecting anything other than shitposting and memes from /g/
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>>53038485
its just a wish, not an expectation.
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fr oss

And stop trying to remove the Caps Lock key. I need it to properly type stuff, it allows me to switch to the 4th level.
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I used Dvorak for 6 years, and still use it on my phone, but changed to Qwerty a few months ago to play Dwarf Fortress.
/blog
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>>53033930
>haven't you switched to Dvorak yet
Not scientific enough.
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this one.
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>>53036244
I really really like qwerty
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Because I have no justification for doing so. QWERTY will always be the standard because it's what the general public has come to accept. I would rather know the standard than be better at typing through a different layout only to be fucked by going anywhere but my moms basement.
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