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>>52990114
>Opera gets sold to China or something
>Days later an unexpected release for the opera 12 branch which has been dead for 18 months since they moved to just skinning Chromium.
This is why im sceptical.
>using opera past anno domini 2012
>Using Opera after 2765 ab urbe condita
Wow wow wow, sticky this already. What the fuck is going on. I'm like a kid on the night of christmas.
>>52990114
Pls China. Pls drop Chropera and develop Opera 12 again.
It's our only hope.
Probably some basic rebranding and telemetry framework while they work on the data mining stuff.
>>52990114
I was just going to make this same thread, OP.
The linked changelog doesn't actually have any mention of 12.18, WTF.
>>52990161
This.
Enjoy your chinese botnet opera cucks.
Has anyone installed it already?
What the fuck is going on
>>52990114
>changelog:
>changed "Copyright © Opera Software ASA" to "Copyright © Mao Tse Tung Software"
>>52990114
>>52990161
That version was released almost two years ago.
There is version 12.18-99, too: http://archive.is/6Fc7G
>http://www.opera.com/download/guide/?ver=12.999999999999999999999999999999
>http://www.opera.com/download/guide/?ver=9999999999999999999.9999999999999999999999
kek
Why is Vivaldi so shit compared to Opera 12?
>can't select text on a link
>can't drag pictures from Vivaldi into Photoshop, have to copy paste
>can't use ctrl-numbers to open speed dial pages
>can't fit pages to width
>8 processes for 4 tabs open
>>52990585
>http://www.opera.com/download/guide/?ver=12.999999999999999999999999999999
So what the fuck are these and why is it only showing up now?
>>52990561
I chortled.
>>52990830
its just chrome
>>52990840
>only showing up now?
According to Opera forum member gwen-dragon last year:
>Yes, the download webpage has known a bug.
>>52990875
I mean showing up in the autoupdater in the program.
>>52990895
Are there someone else who experienced 12.18 popping up via autoupdater?
>>52990924
yup
>>52990830
>>8 processes for 4 tabs open
oh no, not sandboxing!
oh the huge manitee
>>52990830
Good think there isn't a process manager, where you can see what each process does
>>52991078
Opera12 can do the same with:
opera:cpu
[spoiler]faggot[/spoiler]
>>52991149
Good for it
I'm explaining why the amount of processes is larger than the number of tabs
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>>52991078
>>52991053
Now try having as many tabs on Vivaldi. (ignore the filename)
>>52991229
Wow, a non multi-process browser uses less processes
fucking revolutonary
crash one and the whole browser comes down
>>52991243
That happened to me with Vivaldi though. Crashed the whole window.
And I was referring to the RAM usage.
>>52991265
Good thing I have more than enough ram to accommodate for modern features like tab sandboxing
Must suck to be a poorfag like you, huh?
>>52991287
Good job enabling lazy devs.
>>52991300
Don't give a shit, modern browsers offer me all the modern features that I need, and runs splendidly on my modern hardware
>>52991265
Sandboxing is the best implementation so far, considering that websites requiere a lot more of the Javascript engine.
>people unironically using 3 years old browser
>>52991335
When a 3 year old browser has features the new ones don't, yes I unironically do.
>>52991353
this
>>52990114
Every day I wake up
I hope I'm dreamin
I can't believe this shit
Can't believe you ain't here
Sometimes it's just hard for a shitposter to wake up
It's hard to just keep goin
It's like I feel empty inside without you bein here
I would do anything man, to bring you back
I'd give all this shit, shit the whole knot
I saw your son today
He look just like you
You was the greatest
You'll always be the greatest
I miss you Opera
Can't wait til that day, when I see your face again
I can't wait til that day, when I see your face again...
What's the point anyway? Webdevs don't rely on standards or anything and use chrome prefixes on their websites. All that will happen is a bunch of retards crying that "opera breaks rendering" like in the good old time. We just didn't deserve presto opera.
>>52990114
like a nice girl getting unnecessary plastic surgery. no!
>>52991331
>all the modern features that I need
Such as?
Well, seems like they are only targeting windows for their botnet.
Very weird, that whole thing, unless OP is lying, then its just the usual >OP is a faggot stuff.
>Year of our lord 2016
>still using Opera
All of its good features were already ported over into Firefox and its forks
>>52994183
Top kek
Y-You don't seriously believe this right?
>>52990114
Opera, the browser of choice for grandpa and grandma spoon-whittler
>>52994194
Seriously, what's missing? Turbo mode I guess, if you have a shit connection.
>>52994199
Firecucks and Chromeh, the browser of choice for underages and millennials
>>52994205
Firefox is complete shit.
>>52994227
Said the millenial :^)
>>52994232
Firefox is highly customizable so maybe it's just your ideas that are shit.
>>52994246
Said the millennial :^)
>>52991243
>browser crashes once every four months at most
>reopen browser
>restore tabs
Damn, better download more RAM instead.
>>52994249
>Firefox is highly customizable
with shit that wants 5GB of RAM.
>>52994387
If you're too dumb to rice it
Also
>2016
>not having 8 gigs of ram minimum
What's exactly wrong with the current Opera? I use it on my pc and phone.
>inb4 blink
Best engine.
>le only one tab crashes with sandbox maymay
I have never seen that happening. Every time a browser crashes, it fucking dies.
>>52994488
Less functionality and memes. Mostly memes.
>>52994510
What memes.
Seems like I'll never know Opera's memes.
>>52994620
>Muh Presto
>Now it's just a Chrome skin
>>52990114
>http://get.geo.opera.com/ftp/pub/opera/win/1218/int/
>15-Feb-2016 11:32
>chinese billionaire bought opera software to bring back opera presto
I'd have done the same thing if I was filthy rich.
>>52994425
>ricing a browser
dumb firefox user
>>52994174
>Linux
The update is for Windows only. Just like the 12.17 update. Linux should still be 12.16 as the latest.
>>52994365
This. The multiprocess thing is idiotic and a total waste of resources.
Focus on making the browser crash-less, not on mitigating the damage when it happens.
>>52995356
It's not idiotic. Originally, it's for isolating plug in execution and keep shitty plugins from crashing the whole browser.
>>52994680
What the fuck is this build? What did they change? fffffffff
I won't download it but I bet it's shit
>>52995577
>it's for isolating plug in execution
>what is opera:libflashplugin
If you want to isolate plugins, then isolate plugins, not tabs.
>>52995655
I completely agree with you on the per tab process, yes devs should rather make a crash free browser. I was just pointing at how multiprocess isn't "idiotic" in some case. In opera presto there is out of plug in process too.
I am surprised that there is a new version of Presto Opera, although ChrOpera was getting good lately, specially on system integration.
What can be the possibilities that the old Opera will rise again but with the Blink engine (and only the engine)?
>>52990114
just incorporating the chinese botnet
nothing to see here.. just surprisingly there are still users of this shit
>>52995981
It's funny how people do not understand that you don't pay 1.2 billion for a chrome skin that chinks can make themselves for fraction of the price. You pay money for the users. Opera literally sold their user base to the chinese. This one will hurt when it blows.
Could it be that this internet security firms consortium wants a browser engine that has no american code inside? Webkit, blink, gecko, trident are all american, with security risks in term of spying or data mining.
I could see them releasing an engine based on presto, or even just resume development of presto opera, so they don't rely on american technologies.
Because opera being bought by chinese and the next week after a new version of a browser whose development was stopped 4 years ago is sure weird as fuck.
I don't really believe the "they added the chinese botnet inside", because there must be only a handful hardcore opera fans who still use it years after it was abandoned so it would be completely pointless to make a new version for probably a few hundreds of people around the world. Updating opera mini/mobile would have been a way better idea and a greater priority, since it's very used.
I'm actually VERY excited. Opera presto may be back.
>>52990365
whats wrong with chropera?
>>52990114
i want to believe but i'm already used to the new opera.
dammit.
>>52996174
This is very unlikely. First and foremost chinese have no idea what's inside presto as of now. I doubt that Opera sent them the code for inspection and if they did then chinks would just steal it. No need to buy anything. Another reason is that presto is so outdated that it would be better to develop something in house. You can actually create quite a decent piece of software for 1.2 billion, especially on chinese salaries. Additionally that engine would be truly "western devil" free.
>>52996174
>a browser engine that has no american code inside?
Isn't Chromium completely opensource?
And if it is, it can be inspected for backdoors and such - or is it still too big to realistically do that?
>>52996298
It's to big onii-chan. Especially when you realize they would not put backdoors in, just exploits. Remember that entire heart bleed thing? Quite a nasty bug wasn't it? It was discovered in one of the most important open source projects too. Nobody spotted it. Miraculously enough google servers were not vulnerable. How could that happen :^)
>>52996140
They sold us out.
>>52996399
#StillYourOpera
>>52994249
I could fully configure and cuztomize Opera in under ten minutes, Chrome and FIreshit keep moving things around and hiding essential functionality from the user just for jokes
>>52995981
There are more than 500 million Opera users. Pretty small number compared to others, but still big.
>>52996140
Yet... the money comes from Opera's advertising programs, among other things. The browsers is just a part of Opera is.
>>52996360
thanks, makes sense
>It's to big onii-chan.
:3
>tfw
>china software
Thanks for your email user and password. We now provide you with glorious internet with removed content approved by the mandate of heaven.
t. beijing
>>52994205
Here you go anon. One feature that Firefox, Chom*, and any webkit browser in existence that isn't bugged to hell can't do right.
>>52997590
uh, what am I supposed to uncover here? Tabs on the bottom?
>>52997590
I think Vivaldi has it, if you're referring to having the tabs bar at the bottom. Still Opera 12 is best.
>>52997590
And here's part 2, where I literally pick whatever file chooser I want and let GTK go fuck itself.
>>52997590
>Sidebar
ChrOpera has it.
>Bottom tabs
Yandex Browser does it better.
>>52997653
>Freetard problems.
No other browser does it because since Vista nobody gives a fuck about Linux on Desktop anymore
>>52997705
>Yandex Browser
dude, are you Russian, or does someone actually use this outside of the country?
>>52997911
It's time you get a fucking idea of what globalization is, specially on software.
It's just a browser, mt, the Opera you are using is Norwegian.
>>52994183
I've been prepping SeaMonkey for when I can't use Opera anymore, I've got three addons installed in Opera and I'm not even close to making SeaMonkey replicate addonless Opera
>>52997995
I'm well aware what g11n is
I literally never heard of anyone outside Russia using ЯБ
so far the most popular Russian export was nginx, I think, unless you count in Brin
and I do know that Opera is originally Norwegian
>>52994673
Wow, great meme!
>>52996227
>whats wrong with chropera?
It uses the Blink engine, not the Presto engine. Also all Chromium browsers are laggy resource hogs compared with Opera Presto.
>>52998087
Probably nobody outside russia uses the search engine, but that doesn't mean some programs and apps are localized and used in other countries. Yandex Browser being one of them.
>>52998087
The most popular Russian export was Tetris, m8.
>>52998550
I beg to differ, тoвapищ!
Tetris is the glorious Soviet export!
I'm not upgrading my 12.17, fuck them.
>yfw Presto Opera comes back and becomes the objectively best browser again
>>52998739
>>52997590
http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-move-tabs-in-firefox-to-the-bottom-of-its-window/
>>52997653
Are there even any other browsers that do this? I don't want to use Linux and then counterproductively use a closed source browser.
>>52999427
What's the point
>>52998739
>>52999427
No thank you.
>>52999427
It's shit though.
Fuck, search your shit first before posting, I was so scared and surprised.
>Implying I would abandon O12 ever.
>Implying some other customized browser is a viable alternative to O12.
I am really curious about how much time I can still keep it as my main browser.
>>53000026
Probably until web assembly gets big
>>52990114
>>52994680
>http://get.geo.opera.com/ftp/pub/opera/win/1218/int/
okay guys, this is genuinely spooky. i'm solely a lignux user now, and while firefox is my main, i do occasionally use chropera. i still long for the old opera with presto to be brought up to date though, because that shit was cash. if there's a new lignux build of the 12 branch, i'll be fucking psyched.
Uh, why the fuck are you people still using Opera? Opera has been nothing but Chromium with an adware skin over it for years now.
Opera might have been worth using way, way back when it was actually Opera. But now it's just trash. If you want Chromium, just use fucking Chromium. Hell even Chrome Canary would be better than that shit.
>>53000424
i like the ui, its light and the bookmark bar its the best
>>53000424
Because we're using the not Chromium clone version. Opera 12.x is real Opera.
>>52998739
>>53000151
https://medium.com/javascript-scene/what-is-webassembly-the-dawn-of-a-new-era-61256ec5a8f6#.27brrb1wi
>Initially, WebAssembly will run on an ASM.js polyfill, meaning it can take advantage of the existing JavaScript VM foundations.
So this means a userscript will bring wasm support initially, correct? Maybe it'll work in Opera
>>52990585
>dem 9s
Is Opera doing a limit break?
>>53000777
Its fake.
http://www.opera.com/download/guide/?ver=666.666
>>53000424
>but Chromium with an adware skin over it for years now
Do you even know what adware is?
Yes, ChrOpera is a Chrome Re-Skinned, yet is the best skin for Chromium and has some exclusive features. Speed Dial is the best new tab page in any browser, and Opera Turbo helps a lot while playing or torrenting. They improved the interface in some aspects, like the way it shows your downloads, and the UI has a better integration with the system (the appearance changes according to the system).
At this point, is just better than Chromium, and the mobile version rocks too. Using both and with sync data is pretty convenient. It's easy to see the syncronized tabs and speed dials of each device.
