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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/wumE7L2f
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
Anyone know where i could get a x220 or a t420 in mexico?
What's the best Linux OS for the t420?
just joined the family
>t420s i7 2.8
>8gigs ram
>240 hd
>win 7 (2016 microsoft suite from uni)
how'd I do? only visible problem is the O and V on the logo are missing but the "thinkpad" part is fine.
New to computers and don't use it for gaming, is there anything I can do with this guy??
>>52937656
Just have one of your family members in the US send you one instead of money.
>>52937692
There is no "best" linux. All distros contain mostly the same packages (of varying ages) and can be riced to the same degree. Most of what spurs debate among the uninitiated revolves around default DEs (which you can change) and package managers. If you have zero linux experience, get something Ubuntu- or Debian-based. >>>/g/flt
>>52937656
take a vacay to the US amigo.
could probably afford that.
My t60 with IPS and SSD is getting a bit slow, are there more modern thinkpads with a good screen? The t440s and t440p can be had with a 1080p IPS screen, but I really want a 15 inch laptop again.
>>52937986
Have you frankenpadded it yet?
>>52937765
how the fuck is everyone finding the i7 version?
can i drop the i7 cpu in my i5 420?
i've got the 4200m and everything but an i5 instead of an i7.
Looks good mane.
>>52937886
I can, but my next vacations are till march, and i somewhat need a laptop right now.
Not urgent but finding a t420p under $190 is somewhat hard here and is mostly under the usual "scam" sites.
>>52938167
>t420p
T420*
Thinkfags can't seriously defend 1366x768, can they?
>>52938058
If you have a T420, yes. The T420s has a soldered CPU, so it can't be upgraded short of swapping the motherboard.
>>52938334
>guaranteed replies: the post
sage
>>52938027
nah, the fastest CPU is only a t7200, I'd like an i5 or something
Thinking about buying an X220 for 190$ on ebay, is it legit?
Anyone have experience with solar chargers for a laptop? I need something to charge my x220 when I'm out in the middle of the desert for weeks on end.
>>52938919
samefag here, I'm thinking about buying a thinkpad for backend development, will use arch with a light DE, thought about a x220 but do u think there would be a better alternative (im low on budget)
Dell latitude, core 2 duo p8600, 2 gig ram, and an 80gig ssd, 100€, solid 2nd hand buy?
Where do you guys get your motherboards?
I cleaned the battery contacts and still had a problem turning it on with only battery power, and then I tried taking out my motherboard and just connecting it directly to the battery and keyboard and still had the buzzing sound.
>>52939693
ebay. From sellers with lots of good feedback and/or with some kind of warranty.
Needs more ass
>>52938347
you can pay someone with a BGA rework station to replace the CPU
Should I buy the t420/t5420? I just want a laptop for programming and productivity, also standard stuff like youtube and shit.
>open up x220 with intention of redoing thermal paste
>wi-fi card screw is stripped
>no hexnut tool for vga port
at least i cleaned the dust out the fan ;_;
>>52940352
>redoing thermal paste
don't you have to remove the entire board for that?
what ssd can i put in x220t?
2.5inch or msata
does it support 2?
Just got my t420 in the mail. Paid $90 for it since it didn't come with a HDD. The seller didn't list the screen resolution so I expected it to be the 768 screen, but it turns out it's the 900 screen with a NVS 4200m so I'm really happy about that.
Might do the FHD mod whenever the kits come back in stock.
>>52941487
Would love to do the FHD mod, but I'm too scared to ruin shit.
x220 vs x201 which should I buy?
wanna use it at college
>>52942546
X220 dumb shit
>>52942567
thanks faggot
opinions on the t450s for college?
My first generation X1 Carbon is already starting to die; keyboard barely works (f and a are damn near impossible to lightly tap or get recognized on the first stroke), mounting issues with onboard SSD/removable media, and the encasement is starting to feel flimsy. Chinks can't make anything quality.
Meanwhile, my half dozen or so older IBM Thinkpads (701 to T42) work just fine and are still in top quality.
Really thinking about picking up a used MBP or something at this point for a replacement.
I recently got a t510 for cheap and I love it, it runs well on Linux and is quite snappy. I found out its the one with the Intel graphics.
Will I soon to regret this?
Hi /tpg/, the battery on my t420 is kinda "loosey", in the sense that it doesn't stand perfectly still in its place, you can feel a little movement if you push with the finger. Not a big deal, its not like its falling out of the laptop, but I wanted to know if this happens to someone else
>>52942675
Probably not. The nvidia GPU isn't that great anyway, and since it doesn't even have Optimus you'd get fucked on battery life if you had it.
>X220t running Arch
>plug in USB 3.0 pcie card
>suddenly whole system slows down
>take card out
>back to normal
what's up with that, and how do I fix it?
>>52942839
I don't know, check logs and shit.
Probably best to ask somewhere else.
>>52942665
I got a MBP as a replacement for my T60 but the battery and keyboard started dying and I didn't want to pay the $201 to repair them, and seeing as I dislike OSX, I got I got a W520 without RAM or HDD/SDD for $296 and took the SSD I use for games from my desktop PC and bought two cheap 4GB RAM sticks.
I can't abandon ThinkPads. They're just so good.
>>52942730
Cool. It's running 1080 YouTube without a stutter and all the Linux games I would even want to play ru great so I'll just enjoy the thinkpad ride
>>52942725
no, i've only got OEM batteries
>>52942878
>>52942839
welp, turns out I needed to plug the power thing in. this kinda sucks.
>>52942987
but, mine is also OEM
>>52940860
you can do both 2.5" and Msata but the msata is only sata 2
>>52942997
then i dunno.
none of mine of three different thinkpads have that problem
if you're quadcore and you know it clap your hands
C L A P
L
A
P
>>52942839
>Arch
>it doesn't Just Werk™
>wat do
kek
>>52942997
My OEM x230 battery has a little wiggle. Thinking about installing a small flat piece of rubber or dense foam weather stripping to tighten it up.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-W520-Core-i7-2820QM-2-30GHz-14GB-RAM-500GB-HDD-15-6-WIN-7-/182014677332?nav=SEARCH
What's the catch? Talk me out of this
>>52943813
probably nothing, you still got the ebay protection
got a NI maschine 2 years ago for 70bucks and it was in perfect conditions except for a few light scratches
>>52938334
but i have 1600x900
>>52943571
same with my x230t, it's not really an issue even when using it as a handle as intended.
I get to upgrade my ram on my thinkpad tomorrow for first time. It better be easy folks.
>>52944027
>babby's first screwdriver
>>52944040
yeah all my shit is in storage so i hope i can find one here
I'm a student going into CE. What model of T or X series should I go for? Disregard budget for now.
What specs should I make sure the thinkpad I want has before I buy it?
(I'm going to get a T420)
>>52944403
An injury that leaves you partially blind so you don't notice the terrible display.
>>52939955
and then you get a mobo thats going to fail in 3 years because you where too cheap to just buy a normal i7 board
>>52940416
yes, got to the point where you remove the system board but stripped screw and no hexnut tool prevented me from continuing :(
>>52939823
Nice ass
What is the best 15"~ thinkpad with this in mind:
1. Image quality
2. Keyboard + Build quality
3. Would like it to browse the internet quickly, maybe play very low level games
>>52937571
Papercraft thinkpads
https://boards.4chan.org/po/thread/535564/
>>52945454
thanks family, /po/ is one of those boards i always forget about but it's really quite nice
>>52945412
Also I would like it to be an upgrade from my early 2011 MBP, but I bet most of the laptops here would be.
>>52945412
>>52945478
W520.
I'm nto goign to recommend you the newer ones because they cost quite a lot and I just don't like them.
Did I fuck up? Gonna buy / install a 1TB Samsung 850 SSD and 8gb RAM myself.
>>52946037
>$900USD for ultraportable abortion
>still have to buy parts
kek
>>52946037
better than a x1 carbon.
Which wireless card in the t420 is the one people are saying is shit?
>>52946037
>4gb
>hdd
>$951
yes you did , return that shit asap
>>52946330
>>52946352
>>52946694
You guys serious or yall just yanking my chain? This was through Lenovo's corporate perks program... it was $760 before I added M$ Office. Should I have just bought a 220?
>>52946899
I thought the whole magic of gookpads is to get them offlease for cheap and not give a fuck what happens to them
>>52946899
for $275 I got
>X220 Tablet
>IPS screen
>i7-2620M
>8gb RAM
>128GB SSD
no OS, but linux and libreoffice are free.
There are also plenty on eBay with windows.
>>52937571
>T420
lel
>>52947214
lol.
fml.
>>52946037
That is pretty decent.
>>52946330
>buzzwords are easier than explaining my opinion.
>>52946899
It is a good buy; however you fucked up partly when you bought ms word. Why would you buy that?
>>52946941
No. That is merely a benifit of using thinkpads. People like to hate 'newer' things on this board, just for the sake of hating 'newer things'. That, as well as jealousy, is why people make unsound claims to why they don't like the newer thinkpads.
It's been like that forever, and it will be the same way in 10 years when the majority of people on this board are shitposting from their x250's complaining about the new x280 models or whatever.
>>52947476
>People like to hate 'newer' things on this board, just for the sake of hating 'newer things'. That, as well as jealousy, is why people make unsound claims to why they don't like the newer thinkpads
Worshiping new garbage like a consumercuck is worse than "hating new things"when there are plently of valid reasons to hate what Lenovo has done with the line over the years
>>52947476
Whew. Thank you for talking me off the ledge. I bought Office because I need this thing for work (military) and really didn't want deal with senior NCOs and officers telling me something isn't working because I have OpenOffice and not M$. I know it's a bit of a waste but I'm not as tech savvy as I once was so avoiding potential headaches makes it kind of worth it for me.
>>52947500
>there are plenty of valid reasons
>doesn't list any valid reasons
So the same was said about IBM, and now Lenovo. You call others consumercucks, yet you blindly appeal to the bandwagon opinion of hating new things—at least I can assume so, as you did not list any of these so called 'valid opinions' yourself.
The only opinion I have seen that hold some merit are:
>muh keyboard layout
Even so, that is mostly arbitrary nostalgia.
>>52947647
>>doesn't list any valid reasons
it's called lurking more reddit friend
>The only opinion I have seen that hold some merit are:
Then you don't know anything about the line and are talking out your ass
I just got an x220 i7 for $150.00. It only has 4gb of ram, and a 320gb hdd, but I will upgrade them myself. How did I do?
is there a program like tpfancontrol for dell laptops?
i know i could probably adjust fan speeds with speedfan but i'd love something that let you set up automatic rules
got my t420. bunsenlabs. digging it.
>>52948068
mighty
>>52947789
>personal attacks instead of attacking argument
>buzzwords
>still doesn't state any of the "many valid reasons"
Even if I did know nothing about thinkpads—I probably own thinkpads older than yourself—that would still not strengthen your main point; that is:
>new thinkpads suck because appealing to the bandwagon opinion of an imageboard makes me feel like I know what I'm talking about, and because change triggers me
ay fags help me out
x200 or t400?
or something else
>>52947647
>>muh keyboard layout
>Even so, that is mostly arbitrary nostalgia.
another anon, I would even try to learn new placement of keys but they have blatantly just threw them away so there is nothing to learn, just hate them for bad decisions, also I tried many chiclet keyboards (acer, asus, hp, lenovo apple...) and even thou after first experience after so many pics seen online I was turbo_disappointed (coz it always looked so rubbery, but felt like ultra_cheap_plastic) I gotta say that lenovo chiclet is very good
BUT THEY FUCKED UP LAYOUT SO BADLY
>>52947913
bretty good
I stuck one of the older stylus inside my x220T and now its stuck . HELP
I thought it would be a good replacement!
>>52948351
>png
>photograph
When's that X260 dropping?
>>52948170
yes, because I'm going to write you an essay on a gook toon board as to why Lenovo has taken the line in the wrong direction and how that relates to the general trend of adapting to the "3 year rule" of the consumer lifecycle that has gained in popularity over the last decade all so you can refute it with some vague thoughtless garbage that you continue to spew.
>>52948625
Err, try this maybe,
fashion a paper clip into a hook
Try to hook the clip portion of the stylus so you can pull it out.
>>52948703
dropping in the trash where it belongs?
>>52948625
Tweezers?
>>52948740
I'll try this
>>52948761
Doesn't work.
>>52946899
they both do the same things. unless you want
>new model
>slightly faster processing
>better integrated graphics (just get a egpu)
>>52948625
Superglue something to it, and pull it out once it dries?
>>52948869
>doesn't mention the vastly superior screen
>>52948625
pop out the kb and you'll be able to take it out. clean your kb too.
Out of curiosity, if I were planning to sell an X200s with a 128 GB SSD and 4 GB of RAM, and an X61 Tablet, would $170 and $50 be reasonable prices for each?
>>52949238
burgerbucks? a bit pricey if so. i sold an x200s recently with similar specs + dock for $150 AUD
>>52949238
>>52949618
What does the s signify?
>>52949701
slim 'n' slow
it's slimmer but uses an undervolted CPU to drop temperatures to make up for the lack of ventihilation and get slightly better battery life
the tradeoff is decent
i actually really liked my x200s even though it was just an undervolted c2d
Anyone here know a legitimate seller of TrackPoint keycaps? I ordered some for about 3 dollars and they're a bit soft for my liking.
>>52948998
Which size msata ssd do you guys recommend (currently using about 80GB and I already have all my programs) and what brands are good?
>>52949759
i got some made in japan ones on amazon.
love this style, using it exclusively.
On replacing wireless cards, how do I know if it will work? I looked up the model and it seems there are different versions of the same card. What to get? Pic related is the network card I'm trying to replace.
okay so is there a thinkpad or lattitude or some shit for $415 ($500 max) that has the following or better?
>2560x1600
>intel core i5-4278u (look at benchmarks for all generations)
>8gb ram
>256 pci-e ssd
>glass trackpad
does anything fit that criteria or should i just use the money to fix the screen on my 13" retina macbook pro?
>>52950685
you should kill yourself
Is there a reason why my t420 is getting super hot while just doing shit like youtube? CPU and GPU are in the high 80s
>>52950720
That's completely normal. And it's not high in laptops at all.
By "high" you should consider temperatures 90c+ dg
>>52950720
Repaste your shit. Youtube sucks but it shouldn't be cooking your hardware that hotly.
>>52950720
REPASTE .
>>52950741
>>52950760
Alright will do. Looks easy enough to disassemble.
best thinkpad reporting in
Is 425€(about 480$) worth paying for i7 T420S? Used, seems to be in decent condition.
I'm looking for something to do .NET programming on
>>52947913
which site?
>>52944304
A used T440 with a new trackpad or a new T460 with i7 if you've got cash and want future-proofing.
>>52947214
>X220 Tablet
>IPS screen
These always have an IPS screen...
>>52952123
whoops, thought I had read there was a model with a different panel.
Whatever, doesn't make it less nice.
>>52951281
Lel
so I've got a thinkpad x220, when using intellij it seems to get really hot (not sure how hot since on arch and don't know how to check temps) so far upgraded to ssd buying new ram this month should I disassemble it clean it out and reapply thermal paste
Whats the most powerful/cold thinkpad? preferably x series
is it possible to use x220's fingerprint reader in a CLI login on linux?
bout to go from x220 ips 9 cell to t420s i7 2.8ghz. gonna do the 1080p mod when more kits get released.
any t420s users here? post pics
>>52953270
Maybe you should use an OS you can actually operate.
>>52954688
>you shouldn't use something until you know everything about it
have you considered I'm using to learn more about it you spic fuck
It's a x230t good for 330£?
>>52954712
Use lm-sensors you turbonigger.
Babby's first archfaggots should be summarily gassed.
>>52954860
your life must be upsetting if you get triggered this easily
>>52954944
Actually my life is great and I'm in a good mood this morning. It's why I tried to help you while insulting you.
This isn't /flt/. Or reddit.
>>52955158
ok whatever you say
Does anyone else think that Thinkpads look nice and are aesthetically pleasing? I tell my friends that Thinkpads look nice and they think I'm crazy. Maybe I like the way they look because of the nostalgia factor since the first laptop I used was my dad's Thinkpad he got from working at IBM.
>>52953270
>intellij
unavoidable m8, that thing uses a lot of your CPU
>>52951281
ayy
>>52955684
>>52951281
lmao
Just got my T430 today and pulled it out of the box not 15 minutes ago. Should this thing be idling this hot? I'm just installing some programs right now
>>52955661
any good alternative?
>>52955905
No. Compress air it and post back the results.
>>52955905
Is windows update running in the background too?
>>52955905
are you idling or installing programs? you can't be doing both
normal idle temp should be under 45C, under stress testing it will get very hot, but ideally it should not get hot enough to thermal throttle
>>52955701
What the fucking is going on on that pic?
Could somebody explain?
>>52955905
Check cpu usage first.
Idle might actually be not idle.
>>52955933
emacs or vim
>>52950069
I have a 120gb Samsung 840 EVO in mine.
If I was to do it again, I would get a 250gb 850 EVO right now.
>>52955988
can they compile java?
>>52956007
what compiles java is not intellij is the compiler I suggest you to learn using a build tool like gradle, helps in the long run
>>52955966
http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/diy-egpu-experiences.418851/
everything you need to know
>>52951281
I was using this mouse for like 8 years. Recently upgraded to a Logitech G303. Very similar shape and feel, would recommend.
(also plugged into a T420)
>Ledditors actually believe this
>>52956142
But isn't he right?
/tpg/ how to tighten hinges?
Just upgraded my ram on my beautiful T420 for first time. I was expecting ram to be in the slot but it's in another place. so instead of 8Gb which I just bought I have 12 gb
Is everything right? Just making sure. thanks
>>52957255
There's two slots, one is on the bottom of the laptop and the other is beneath the keyboard.
>>52957278
Cool. Yeah I read about two slots but I figured they would use the bottom one and not under keyboard. either way all is well . My new g.skill is fine in second slot right? any BIOS changes I should do or is all well?
>>52957302
You're fine. RAM is pretty much an all-or-nothing deal. If it weren't working right, you wouldn't even be able to get to the BIOS.
>>52957348
Yeah. Pretty much my same thought. Once it started to boot and the OS logo popped all was well. Done it on desktops plenty. Just new to the laptop upgrade world I guess. have a good day /g/
Just bought a thinkpad edge e460 for school. How bad did I fuck up? i5 6200u, 8gb ram, 500 gb 7200rpm hdd, Intel wireless 8260, 1366x768 tn panel.
>>52957784
price anon.
free? 1 billion doll hairs?
My Thinkpad is turning 5 in a few months. Everything is working well xept for the hard drive.
Also be nice, it's my first linux distro.
>>52957784
>1366x768 TN panel
>2016
lelnovo shills will defend this
>>52958651
My gookpad is 8 years old, still on original HDD. It's like a miracle. Throwing libreboot and an SSD in (when I can figure out why I can't get flashing to work)
>>52938334
>Tfw based 1280x800
It's really all you need on a 12.1" screen
>>52949618
Yeah, now that I look at it, $130 US is on the upper end of what I should expect to get out of it. Still not bad. My intention is to put the money toward a Dell Chromebook 13 with an i3.
>>52956093
i have a g400, the dell one is just for my laptop, and i mostly use the trackpad anyway
Thinking of getting an SSD for my X200 when the tax refund check goes through, but how much of an actual difference in speed does it make? It's hard for me to think of everyday cases where disk read/write operations would cause heavy bottlenecks. The only thing that jumps to mind is hibernate/suspend-to-disk, but I don't do that very often. Maybe compiling/packing/installing very large packages, but it seems that most of the time would still be spent on compilation which is limited by the CPU speed, desu ka?
>>52951281
DUDE, WEED! LMAO!
>>52958828
What the fuck are you talking about?
>>52938334
I don't use a mobile device to consume or produce media
1280x800 IPS is fine with me
>inb4 nooo, it can not!! you need le retinuh because its 2016
>>52959009
>when the tax refund check goes through
that's pitiful
>be italian
>want to buy x1 yoga
>wait for it to be available
>open Lenovos website today
>starting at 2000€
Why don't they want to sell their stuff in the EU? Literally unbuyable
>>52959160
S-sorry...
>>52959970
you can get cheap used ssds on ebay if you're really strapped. Just paid $35 USD for a 160GB goytel for my X200. I'm mostly looking forward to the extra battery life
>>52959355
>buying new gookpads
Is this an Italian meme?
>>52955684
>>52955701
Brilliant.
Sexiest ThinkPad ever made. Prove me wrong.
anyone have a dell e6230 they can comment on? kinda split between that and an x230. really similar machines, e6230 is a little thinner though, and will work with my e series docking station and current charger i think.
>>52958252
866 AUD
>>52955633
It's the whole "no bullshit" bento-box appeal, where it looks humble but is (or was) powerful on the inside. Adds a bit of mystery to it.
>>52955966
Thinkpad essentially has an external PCI-E port, meaning you can plug in an external GPU. It just needs its own power supply.
>>52956142
The xrandr thing is a neat tip but the rest is bullshit.
The power to render higher reoslutions only matters for gaymen.
>>52960221
Way slower than an x201, let alone an x220
>>52960473
Still the sexiest.
>>52955633
>Does anyone else think that Thinkpads look nice and are aesthetically pleasing? I tell my friends that Thinkpads look nice and they think I'm crazy. Maybe I like the way they look because of the nostalgia factor since the first laptop I used was my dad's Thinkpad he got from working at IBM.
Since i was 6, i usually went to a technology fair with my dad. There were (and still are) some stands that sells only Thinkpads. I always LOVED that design, IDK why, but I think because it make the laptop seems like a no-bullshit piece of equipment
Still planning to get one of those BTW, poorfag here
>>52960042
it's not the jewgolds so much that I'm kvetching about, more of whether or not it's a "necessary" upgrade. how significant is the difference in power consumption? I get a full charge of 66Wh and usually run between 16-18 W at idle/low CPU usage.
>>52959037
Thanks seth
>>52960641
should drop 3 or 4 watts, but it's not as necessary with Linux as it is with Windows where you have the ridiculously inefficient Windows Update and indexing services thrashing the disk.
>>52939526
Define backend development.
>wanna buy a ThinkPad
>wanna buy a W520
>Swedish keyboard costs as much as a T420
Why.
How bad is the T420 display for anime watching (re-watching and livestreams)?
Lads, a local electronic salvage shop is selling a t520 with a busted ethernet jack and a 500gb hard drive for the same price that they're offering a t420 with a 320gb. Now the HDD is not really a bother, but I'm not sure if not having ETH would drive me crazy. Opinions?
>>52961759
if it really bothers you, you could get a usb ethernet adapter
>>52961759
There's also a Core2Duo T400 for dirt cheap.
>>52961769
That's a good one. The t520 is all around a better choice, then?
>>52961874
No, they are the exact same thing, T520 is just 15.6" version, T420 is 14.0".
Who /drawer/ here?
>>52961874
>>52961898
T520 has an infinitely better screen and much improved cooling over the T420.
Who 2nd screen here?
>>52955633
>>52960369
>>52960568
>Does anyone else think that Thinkpads look nice and are aesthetically pleasing?
Yup. They broke the mold. Compare that to nowadays - almost every laptop is a clone of the fucking Mac - same unibody, same chiclet garbage keyboard, same same same. Oh, except color difference in some cases. Even Lenovo is guilty.
I'll take God-tier utilitarian dependableness over trendy, one-port facebook machines thanks.
>>52961589
It's fine if you're looking at it dead-on, it's just at angles it's shit.
But you can get an IPS panel put in with some finangling.
>>52952329
The ones offloaded by companies will usually have a shit TN panel. Good thing you got one with a IPS tho
>>52961759
Define "same price"
You can get a new mobo for like $50 to fix the jack
>>52962334
About 330 dollars. Living on a third-world shithole.
>>52962274
Not you, I bet.
>>52962354
Not terrible, but you can get a t420 or less for around $200 in a not-shithole
I think there might be ethernet expresscards to avoid replacing the MOBO
>>52962274
>that son of a bitch that got a W701ds for $250
I'll never stop being mad.
>>52962397
>>52962373
One tends to forget good notebooks are (or should be) modular like that. Thanks bruh.
>>52961931
I'd never put anything inside a hot laptop like that.
>>52962321
How hard is it to do?
Is it worth the money?
Or should I just get a T520?
What's the fastest way to stress test a cpu? Linux or windows doesn't matter.
>>52962361
lol nope
>tfw no one will ever be able to put an X230 motherboard into an X201 body + screen
It would be PERFECT ThinkPad
>>52962397
really? I'm guessing locally right?
>>52962736
what about the jews anon?
>>52962924
It was on ebay. Theory I've heard is the guy intended to list it as an auction starting at $250 but fucked up and listed it as buy it now instead, and some lucky bastard picked it up. Wasn't even someone from around here, I don't think.
>>52962858
I use Intel's Extreme Tuning Utility, Windows
>>52962969
>starting at $250 but fucked up and listed it as buy it now instead, and some lucky bastard picked it up
no way. Seller would have cancelled the purchase at that point, unless he was mentally challenged
>>52963028
So fucking sexy.
>>52962858
Stress on GNU/Linux.
>>52962992
>>52963173
Thanks. I'll put Stress on my live usb and have XTU on another usb as a backup
Should I get one of the newer thinkpads? I have some extra cash on me.
Bonus would be better screen, better battery life, faster processor, more reliable, and not getting some gross thinkpad that smells bad and has been living in the owners mothers basement.
I'm thinking maybe x250, or maybe should I go for some older models?
Is there anything to be done with dead batteries?
Is it possible to combine cells from a few dead units to make a working one?
Bought this today, (and waiting for delivery) for 800 PLN (~200USD), i5-2520, 4GB, no hdd, IPS. Good deal ?
>>52963347
>>52963347
Dobre
Based Rossmann rant on classic vs modern Thinkpads
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doEZMNXz1JY
>>52955684
Wallpaper please.
I'm excited, I just got my first not-old thinkpad, a W550s.
1080p, i7-5600U, K620m, 128SSD, 8Gb, 17hr battery
$830 shipped
I'm an engineering student who moves around a lot and does CAD every day, this machine sounds like a dream.
Hoping this lasts me 4+ years.
>>52964114
r u a bridge builder m8?
>>52964168
nah, mechanical
>>52964114
I'm sorry, but I can't stand the physical button touchpad. Also....
>Those keys....
>>52948625
Shut the machine down and remove your keyboard. You will have access to the slot where the stylus goes in order to remove it.
>>52964199
I hear you man. I prefer the old thinkpad design philosophy too. I just need to have newer hardware, since the programs I use are so dependent on updated drivers. I've been using a W520 for a while and it's starting to show it's age, even with a new SSD.
>>52963028
>built in drawing tablet
Holy shit
Any downsides to shoving a t420 keyboard into a t430?
I already have a third gen i7 and 8GB RAM I can transplant from my current Dell Inspiron, I'll just keep an eye out for a no-cpu listing for maximum dealz
>>52942730
Are you sure it doesn't have Optimus?
The t410 at least I thought was the first one to have it
>>52964466
It'll work but all the Fn functions will be wrong (they'll be mapped to what they are on the newer keyboard)
I know nothing about laptops, I've never owned one, but I've been looking a lot today for a laptop for work...
Why is the fucking x220 so seemingly better than anything else like it? I've been looking around all day for a convertible laptop/tablet and it seems like if you want anything with 4gb of ram, you're basically going to be paying like 250+, then you're going to get a significantly worse processor, a smaller screen, and less hard drive space until you start paying like 500~
How do these cunts do it, what am I missing? is it just the fact that it's ugly as fuck?
>>52964608
From what I read the t_10 series didn't have optimus but later had them added as a revision.
I'm not sure if there's an easy way to know what revision the laptop is.
My mother is a Nursing professor and I want to tell her to get a thinkpad so she can't break her computer. Is there a 17 inch thinkpad with an SSD for pretty cheap I could look at?
>>52964691
17 inch older Thinkpads are fairly rare. You'd have better luck looking at one of Dell's laptops.
>>52964713
What would be a durable 17 inch laptop? I saw some older Dell refurb workstations but I'm not sure if she would like that.
>>52964769
Maybe an HP 8760w, it supposedly has a mil-spec metal case. Had once once, it's pretty decent.
What are some newer business laptops out there that have good Linux support, that are also comparable to thinkpads?
>>52964608
Don't know about the T410, but I have a T510 with the dedicated GPU and it doesn't have Optimus. The integrated graphics on the CPU are actually disabled, with no clear way to turn them back on.
>>52964896
You have the older revision.
You could probably find the motherboard from the newer revision to get it to work. The part number to look for is 63Y1593 I believe
>>52965017
Whoops wrong part number, that's for the 410
Optimus-enabled t510 mobo part numbers are:
>63Y1544
>63Y1545
On ebay looks like they range from $50-$100
>>52965118
The laptop itself only ran me $95 so I'll pass on that. My mom uses it and she's almost never got it on battery anyway so it doesn't really matter.
hey wizards of /g/ i wish to buy a t420 on amazon is this good idea? Does lenovo still make new ones or do i have to buy used?
>>52962123
This.
Also, dedicated nvs in select models.
>>52965588
Depends on the price. No they don't make new ones, but they do sell refurbs for like $400
The whole trick about thinkpads though is that they're good even used, you can find a t420 for like $200
>>52965611
>>52962123
>T520 has an infinitely better screen
Is it IPS?
