>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones
>Previous thread:
>>52544743
![tT72St[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/DA5qxxd.png "tT72St[1].png")
is this about right guys?
>>52557237
well fuck I forgot /hpg/ - Headphone General in the subject
I had one job, oh well
Before the shitposting takes over, can someone answer my question from last thread?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqJJ-2cRR0M [Embed]
I hear a small static buzz in the left ear on the second chord of this song. Likely to be fixed by using an amp or problem with headphones? Going to ask a friend to try his dac/amp stack soon.
>>52557271
Could be an amp issue. I'd think it's probably the headphones though.
>>52557271
Give an actual time on the thing so we can check.
>>52557271
Specific time?
Swap the channels digitally.
Then plug it into something else.
>>52557329
>on the second chord of this song.
Like literally the very first really loud note.
Anyone have these?
http://en.goldenears.net/30016
Can you compare to some top end open phones like AKG or Sennheiser?
>>52557346
I hear it, that's probably Youtube upload shenanigans.
>>52557364
>$1000 on those
Come on, at least get a CIEM if you're going to spend that much money.
>>52557364
>SE846
More bass, more subbass. Less treble and less treble extension. Really lacking extension.
Fat earpieces, high isolation.
>>52557398
>CIEM
Why.
>>52557370
Using a proper set-up? That's reassuring. But it also shows up in a 320kbps file on my computer so it's disappointing that this album was apparently poorly recorded/mastered.
>>52557404
You might as well ensure a perfect fit and comfort for that money.
>>52557404
Custom-fitted ear dildos.
>>52557398
>>52557404
You can get a custom made ear plug if you want for Shure IEM.
>>52557417
Custom mold is overrated in fit. Try not to move your jaw too much and hope you don't need a remold.
>>52557408
Yeah, O2/ODAC into a couple different headphones to confirm.
You'd rather it be the album than the headphones, right?
>>52557465
>>52557370
What time is it at?
>>52557486
0:02
>>52557486
Literally 0:02 into it.
>>52557489
>>52557495
Pretty sure that slight static is just the guy trying make the song sound "old". I hear it throughout the track.
Thought you guys meant something else.
>>52557524
I only hear it when the piano gets really loud so I thought it might be a sign I need an amp.
>>52557524
> trying make the song sound "old"
Is it actually a thing to add static to do this?
Apparently, the album it's from was released through an indie record label, so it's more likely to be quality control issues.
Sup
>>52557561
With the hipster craze and vinyl shit I hear it all the time. Added pops, cracks and all sorts of shit.
Heard I song the other day that added in a bounce of noise to make it sound like a cassette.
>>52557588
What the hell. I guess this is why I don't listen to much hipster music.
>>52557599
It's anything man.
There's a bunch of metal bands now too going for an old 60s/70s sound trying to be like Black Sabbath.
It's not limited to any genre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Ao4t_fe0I
>>52557465
>>52557524
Just to double check for peace of mind, it also happens a ton at 10:47 right? Like 5 or 6 times. Thanks.
>>52557678
Yes.
>>52557678
Ya. Either poor recording or it was added in.
>>52557685
>>52557703
OK thanks guys.
I dunno, I feel that if it had been added in it would sound more like a vinyl style consistent static in the background, not random bursts peppered throughout.
>>52557730
Like I said above. I've been hearing all sorts of weird sounds added to tracks lately to make them sound old or something. It wouldn't surprise me.
>>52557730
I do hear a consistent static sound though, especially noticeable in the first minute or so before the music really gets going.
>>52553142
Either your ears are very sensitive to K702's treble peaks or, more probably, your K702 is underpowered. The K702 (and generally many other AKG headphones) generally benefit from an amp and it's not just a matter of loudness. It's a matter of sound balance: when amped, the K702 has better mids and bass, which make the treble sound less harsh. Once you plug your K702 to your Fiio E10K, listen to them and let us know how they sound to you. Also it's not strange that your K702 doesn't sound as loud as your HD558: HD558 sensitivity is around 122 dB/V, whereas K702 sensitivity is 105 dB/V! You obviously need more power (not simlply more volume) to drive them.
>>52553412
>>52553585
>>52553614
Ecc.ecc...
You were too many to quote...However, both K702 and HD600 are neutral headphones, none of them is more neutral than the others. Choosing the correct graph to prove your point doesn't help much, because graphs provide very different measurements. K702 has better mids, HD600 has better upper mids/treble. Speaking of bass, HD600 has slightly more powerful midbass, whereas K702 has slightly better bass extension (slightly more powerful sub-bass). It's not an absolute truth and it depends on the single unit.
>>52557578
Settling with this EQ for now
Guys, If I plug DAC/AMP like E10K into O2. It'll be bi-amping, isn't it? Is it good or not?
>>52558023
well its most likely unnecessary as fuck
>>52558048
I know, but somehow my HiFimediy DAC weaken the bass compared to my discrete DAC toaster. And I can't find the right EQ for it. But I didn't know the static sound from my laptop is caused by electric static or not. So I think to get upgrade my DAC as I hate the ergonomic of HiFimediy. But nearly all decent DAC under $100 come in form in DAC/AMP, so it really bothers me.
>>52557947
Thank you, I was hoping that would be the case, and I'll report once my e10k arrives.
>>52558189
he doesnt understand the relationship between impedance and phase. youre buying his crap where hes overconfident in what he understands for no reason. the k702s are harder to drive, yes. but if anything, the amp will change the way the hd558 sounds more than a k702, as it is less affected by high output impedance
I'm looking for nice in-ear earphones for <$40. What is the best? I saw this in a previous thread, is it the best?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005HP3OB0/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=904ENPS5OXZL&coliid=I3HHROHGWSA85P
>Budget
$100 (preferably less but can go up to $200)
>Location
USA
>Source
Laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
undecided
>Comfort level
ear pads are a good thing
>Preferred music
video game (osu!), youtube, anime
>Past headphones
MDR-ZX100 (like:ear pads, fit 'how tight it is on head', adjustability, weight) (dislike: cord length 'not long enough')
>>52558227
probably
>>52558241
>open or closed
>undecided
what, why? if you dont need isolation, and no one around you is going to hear you, then you want open
>>52558214
>>>52558189
> the amp will change the way the hd558 sounds more than a k702, as it is less affected by high output impedance
This means literally nothing
>>52558303
it does to him. hes hoping it will tame the treble down, when in fact it will do nothing but make it even louder
>>52558241
HD558
>>52558258
I've only had closed previously and like the isolation (noisy neighbors, proximity to train tracks) but if open will give a better listening experience I'm willing to give them a try
>>52558340
i mean, with the volume at any above average level it's going to wash it out anyway.
and if it doesnt work like this, just sendem back to amazon
what this guy said >>52558323
>>52558340
>I've only had closed previously and like the isolation (noisy neighbors, proximity to train tracks) but if open will give a better listening experience I'm willing to give them a try
yeah no you'll want closed
>>52558355
what kind of fucking volume do you blast your shit at
average volume doesn't block out anything on my semi-opens, let alone full open
You want the guy to fuck up his ears?
>>52558241
m40x/m50x, depending if you want more bass for more money
>>52558310
As I said to him in >>52557947, amping the K702 won't lower the treble, but it will make both mids and bass more present and louder, thus reducing the harshness of the treble.
>>52558355
>>52558323
alright, thanks for the info
I give them a try
>>52558381
no. the treble will move up linearly with the rest of the spectrum. he will achieve exactly the same volume he did before, capped by his inability to turn up the volume any higher because the treble will sound the same
>>52558394
Different anon with the K702s. Be it placebo or an actual change they do sound different with an amp.
>>52558374
>m40x/m50x
those look nice
I give them a try, along with the hd558 and send back what I don't like
>>52558415
our hearing is indeed the most easily biased sense we have. if he feels like the amp helps him, then thats great, i have no problem with it.
but, every detail matters though. maybe your original source was particularly bad, where his current one is fine. after all, its not like the k702 isnt known to be a bright headphone. i cant see how a better amp would change that that much. its -supposed- to be bright. a bad source would make it worse, like yours might have been, and the amp simply tamed it, and you dont think it's too bright now because it helped, but it's still bright as far as neutral is concerned. i find this to be the likely scenario.
>>52558448
I can tell you right now
HD558 will be more neutral & better sounding than m40x
m40x will have far better isolation than hd558, you won't be hearing jack shit even when nothing is playing
m50x will have more bass than m40x (and a third detachable cable, which is shorter than the rest and I'm assuming you don't want)
wait, how do you use it on laptop & have the cord not be long enough
>>52558455
I really notice it with the bass. Can feel the vibrations with the amp. Not so much with on board audio.
>>52558491
>feel the bass
here we go again
>>52558549
Playing the quality checker on this sounds different to me. Idk. I can easily just change the sound settings and go from amp to onboard.
>>52558560
http://www.audiocheck.net/soundtests_headphones.php
>Budget
$180 AUD
>Location
Australia
>Source
Mostly PC
>Preferred type of headphone
No preference
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy enough to sit on my head for hours.
>Preferred music
Most genres, a lot of electronic and alternative music.
>Past headphones
Never owned any quality pair before.
>>52558565
>do the treble extension test
>nothing
>nothing
>nothing
>suddenly super load screeching noise at 17k
I knew this was a bad idea
>>52558590
m40x/m50x
if you want more bass & you're willing to pay for it, get m50x
check priceme for cheapest stores (or an equivelant price checker)
IIRC m40x is like 130 AUD & m50x is like 185 AUD
>>52558612
By more bass do you mean excessive bass? If anything I'd probably like it to be relatively balanced.
>>52558651
not that guy but youd definitely want the m40x then
>>52558651
wait
balanced and neutral are different things
>>52558590
how far past the point of insanity has your body gone that it decides to store fat in your forearms with those proportions?
>>52558688
If I remember correctly she actually had a condition that caused them to swell like that. Doesn't help that she's also a lardass of course.
>>52558023
Don't. Headphones and bi/tri-amping is not a thing and that is not how it works.
>>52558792
How does it works? Also can you recommend some standalone DAC under $100?
Is it worth it to pay $109 for an E10K from Amazon?
>>52558679
I guess I should just say it as I don't want overpowering bass.
>>52558851
get the m40x then
>>52558805
It's used in loudspeakers with multiple drivers. In bi-amping, each amplifier powers its own frequency range(separate amplification for bass driver and another for midrange/tweeter). The idea is to bypass the conventional and inefficient passive crossover within the loudspeakers and instead use an active crossover to split the signal electronically before the the signal gets fed to the loudspeaker. Passive crossovers always introduce some amount of distortion to the system which may or may not be audible, bi/tri-amping is supposed to avoid this. In order for this to work the loudspeakers need to have separate binding posts for the drivers. It's either two amplifiers a system where one amplifier handles low frequencies and the other midrange and high frequencies or two amplifiers per channel with similar distribution of the frequencies. Idea is sound but audible benefit from this is another question entirely. Crossovers vary a lot by design, too.
Headphones almost always use a single full range driver. Daisy chaining amplifiers would not yield any benefits but I suspect you could break a thing or two by doing that. Besides you'd be limited by the performance of the worst amplifier in your system even if you could make that work.
A DAC only? Or something to plug in headphones?
>>52559233
I see. Do it works only on passive speaker or can it applied on active speakers too?
DAC only. I've O2 for the amplifier. Or can something to plug in headphones solve the noise issue from my laptop?
>>52558455
>>52558394
You're still missing the point of what I meant in >>52558381. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I wasn't saying that the K702 isn't bright nor that an amp can tame the treble. What I was saying is that using an amp can help making the K702 sound more balanced. I plugged the K702 into my Asus laptop (not very powerful) and into my E10K and the difference of sound was quite noticeable. When I raise the volume on my Asus, I can hear the treble get progressively louder whereas the mids and the bass don't gain much volume. When I raise the volume on my E10K, I can clearly hear that the bass and the mids get as louder as the treble. At the end the K702 still sounds a little bright even on the E10K (this is its sound signature after all, you can't change it), but the final result is surely an overall more balanced and pleasant sound.
>>52559507
Active loudspeakers already have separate amplifiers per driver and active crossovers built in which handle all of that.
If you just need a stereo DAC with digital in and analog out with no other features, ODAC or Modi is about as high quality you can get.
soundmagic E10 (£30) vs Etymotic MC5/MK5 (£40) ?
>>52559591
Its really over my budget. Hence I want something lesser and take a look at E10k. But I fear the bi-amping or something like that.
>>52559604
Ety if the deep fit is not an issue. MC5 is a bit dark, MK5 is a bit bright.
>>52559620
E10K has a line out right? Just get the E10K and use the line out to plug in O2.
How good are the JHP 9500s? I was originally looking at the superlux 668b but it seems everyone was drooling over the Philips. Incase it matters, main use would be used for gaming and plugging it into my receiver.
>>52559728
SHP9500 I presume. Bright and comfortable. Pretty good pair if you can get them for cheap which would be around 50 euros/dollars or so.
>>52559728
shp9500 got overhyped & as a result overpriced
they're not remotely in the same price category as superlux 668b but they're better ofcourse
whats the most isolating pair of headphones for like 100-150
does anyone have a listr of particularly isolating headphones or something
I'm looking for something like the soundmagic e50 but with a bit more emphasis on the mids, around $/€50. Suggestions?
I need some IEMs that sound good and are cheap to maintain pretty much forever. I'm going to wear them daily for most of the day. It's important that all the components can be replaced.
I'm about to have to send back my ER-4's for the second time as it approaches its second year as one of the transducers is going out. I don't think I can buy replacement transducers without sending them in which is like $85+shipping+no IEMs for a week or more. Very annoying and kinda costly to the point I almost don't feel like it. I could do it under warranty one last time but then I'd be screwed the next time.
>>52559861
noise isolation basically comes down to three things
is it fully closed back?
does it have pleather pads?
does it have a lot of clamp?
a lot of headphones fit those three criteria, maybe have a look at m40x/m50x
Hey guys, I just broke my shitty Philips O'Neill SHO9567GN and wanted to replace it with something that would live more than 1 year.
>Budget
50 to 100€
>Location
France
>Source
PC mostly but also smartphone and laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
No preference
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
I should be able to wear it day long.
>Preferred tonal balance
I don't know anything about that
>Preferred music
Weeb music and classical. I would also use it to play video games.
>Past headphones
I've got an AKG-K701 but can't use it anymore since the headband is carving its little bump in my skull.
Note that I would use it on my bicycle and maybe while running but it's not really important.
>>52560450
>I've got an AKG-K701 but can't use it anymore since the headband is carving its little bump in my skull.
Ill take them off your hands, my friend
>>52560450
Also, I'm wearing glasses if it can be of any help.
>>52560552
I'm planning to by a new headband.
Pasting advice template
>Budget
$200 but prefer under $100
>Location
Australia but I can import thru Amazon
>Source
Desktop PC, laptop, Android phone and tablet
>Preferred type of headphone
Earbuds, pic related
>Open or closed
>Comfort level
>Preferred tonal balance
I don't know what these mean
>Preferred music
Video game soundtracks, podcast/audiobook speech, metal
>Past headphones
Sony EX-51 - best headphones I've used, haven't found better yet, pic related, you can get them for $7 off eBay these days
Plantronics Backbeat Go 2 - they're OK, bluetooth is handy, microphone is handy
SoundMagic E10S - unimpressed considering the price
Senn CX300 - pathetic, like listening underwater
>>52560593
>>52560450
nothing you get at that pricepoint will compare to the k701
>>52560593
Either change the headband or switch to the K702: flat headband, detachable cable and maybe even better sound
>>52560760
>>52560824
Well, it's to replace the Philips O'Neill SHO9567GN as a transportable headphone.
>>52560855
>>52560450
maybe get a k240
I don't recommend using fully closed when biking because you can't hear shit
>>52560703
Shure SE215
>>52560855
Sony MDR-7506
Welp my Sound Magic ES10 got rekted after a year of use, any good recommendations that are iems and around the same price range?
>Budget
around €50 (/$50)
>Location
Netherlands
>Source
no external amp/dac, so up to 64ohms because I'll be using them with my phone most often
>Preferred type of headphone
IEMs
>Comfort level
will be wearing them for extended periods of time
>Preferred tonal balance
slightly accented mids, no rolled off treble but not bright either
>Preferred music
varying, I'm set on the tonal balance
>Past headphones
currently using piston 3s and looking for an upgrade
>>52561222
waarom zo kankerspecifiek
>>52561222
soundmagic E10
>>52560703
>Open or closed
>Comfort level
>Preferred tonal balance
Open or closed means the design of the headphones. Some headphones are open back which mean they don't isolate at all. Since you are asking for earbuds(or perhaps IEMs?), this matters little. There are differences in isolation with these too although almost all of them are closed.
Comfort is self explanatory. If comfort is something you value over other factors, state it. Comfort is personal and some in-ears/headphones fit others better than some. There are models which are pretty much universally comfortable and some which tend to be uncomfortable, especially if worn for long periods of time.
Tonal balance is a rough estimate of what you want your headphones to sound like. Neutral, bassy, bright or V-shaped for example.
Since you mentioned earbuds but describe your usage and past headphones which are all in-ears, I think in-ears are what you are looking for. Earbuds all sound like shit compared to a decent pait of in-ears.
I'm going to recommend you Etymotic HF5. They might be uncomfortable but are fairly neutral and isolate really well.
>>52561227
omdat bass voor negers is, en omdat ik naar klassieke muziek luister. daarnaast is alles wat ook maar een beetje vshaped is oorkanker
(why so kankerspecific?
because bass is for niggers, and because I listen to classical music. besides everything that's remotely vshaped is earkanker)
>>52561269
aren't these very bassheavy? bassheavy not at all what I'm looking for
>>52561307
>>52561222
you don't really get to be so specific with sound profile on such a small budget
>>52561345
I guess you're right. I'm just not looking to spend too much on iems which only last me about a year. I'm just hoping for something like the soundmagic e50/e30 with a slight boost to the mids I guess. It may not exist but I hope it does
>>52561377
I also find it weird you're coming from pistons 3 and hate V shaped/bassy, because those are really bassy
>>52561624
the placebo might've gotten to me but I really do not find them too bassy, just a tad too much maybe. I would describe them as warm (w shaped maybe) but the mids are more prominent than the bass. I don't hate bass, I just dislike somewhat because often it's given priority over/drowns out the mids. You are somewhat right though, remember I'm looking for an upgrade. they really are not vshaped though
>>52561780
when I put them in, all I can hear is bass
then again, my headphones are very low on the bass
>>52561902
well I guess it factors out when I consider that, and the fact that the pair before my piston 3s was very bassy but after two weeks of using them and hating them, my order took 3 weeks to get here so I guess I'm biased too when it comes to iems
>>52558015
Damn, what are you using that needs that big of a dip?
>>52562956
HD 800S from the looks of it. That seems to be my HD 800 EQ with some adjustments.
>>52557364
If you want a top-end IEM, go for FitEars. I really like the Parterres especially.
>>52563378
>fitears
>not ultimate ears
fuck outta here weeaboo trash
What price range do i look in for a not-shit home cinema system? I'm watching movies now on the basic television speakers and it sucks. I know i should have a budget before i start looking but i have no idea what's considered good for what price. It's tricky to put speakers on the back wall in the room so i guess i'd want a 2.1 setup. It's mainly for movies.
I know it's not headphones but this seemed like a relevant thread to ask this. Thanks in advance.
>>52563442
That sub is going to cost you. Under 1k.
>>52563424
I like UE too, their CIEMs are definitely top tier, but in terms of UIEMs, I think FitEar is a very good brand. Well, if you don't like FitEar, another good alternative is JH or EarSonic's UIEMs, I guess.
Anyone have any experience with the brand AIAIAI? I like the look and the idea of it being fully modular, but have no clue on how they might perform.
ATH M50x or MDR 7506
Using a Fiio E10K.
I bought some Phillips SHL-3300s today for 25 britbongs. Has anyone had any experience with them? They seem fairly high rated on Head-Fi.
>>52562956
>>52563129 got it right
>>52564304
do you like bass
>>52564433
> fairly high rated on Head-Fi.
AKG k451 for 40€ yay or nay?
This would be an upgrade for me, listening to rock, jazz...
>>52564585
Well I'm using Sony XB700's now which are kind of bass heavy
>>52564739
Are you going to use them outside, maybe on public means of transports, or at home, in a quiet environment?
>>52564878
I plan to do both really, but probably more at home
I think they are a good deal for the price, any other headphones for 50€ that are better?
>>52564905
Try to look also into the AKG K518 and the Koss Porta Pro
The K518 are also 40€ now, but aren't they lower quality than the k451 (which used to be around 100€)?
I don't quite like the looks (and openness) of the PortaPros
>>52564871
>>52564304
m50x/dt770
The Grace m9xx is on Massdrop right now, if anyone wants placebo.
Kind of tempted.
>Budget
<$350 AUD
>Location
Australia
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Enough to last a day
>Preferred music
Deep house, electronic, video games
>Past headphones
My sennheiser 280 pro died (RIP). They were my first and only high end headphones; >mfw i first used them. Anything that could top them?
>>52565791
why do they need to be closed?
I want to recommend you dt880s but they're semi-open
>check prices
>370 is lowest
god I hate you aussies
guess you could pick up m50x or dt770s
>>52565900
aren't fully closed better for sound quality and isolating outside noise?
not really strict on price
>>52565959
Open headphones generally sound better, so you should get open unless you really need isolation or don't want other people to hear what you're listening to, such as for portable use.
I'd also recommend DT880 250 ohm for your situation, but you'd probably need to pick up an amp for those, which would add ~$100 dollarydoos to the cost for something like the Fiio E10k.
K612 + E10k is also possible.
If you want closed, get the DT770.
>>52557237
Do you guys wear your headsets outside? Ever worry about headset hair?
>>52565959
>aren't fully closed better for sound quality
exact opposite, unless by sound quality you mean THAT DEEP DARK RUMBLING BASS
>and isolating outside noise?
yes
I still think beyer's are overpriced in AU compared to other headphones.
DT770 US
220 USD
DT770 UK
115 pounds (165 USD)
DT770 pro 80 ausland
270 AUD (190 USD) [there were some out of stock at like 240 AUD, maybe wait for those?]
M50x (pretty much the dt770 competitor)
US
170 USD
UK
180 USD
Upside down land
185 AUD (130 USD)
>>52566125
>using headsets
>caring about your hair
I solely don't use over ear headphones outside/in public because I'd have to lug around over ear headphones, and the amount of portable good over ear headphones is very small
>>52566127
The problem is that the M50x is not comfy enough to wear all day unless he buys replacement pads as well.
>>52566186
the m50x with hm5s would be as comfortable as the dt770s
you'd have a bit worse sound and more clamp and a choice of three detachable cables for a bit less money
I think the choice is obvious when there's such a large price difference between the two
would the DT770 need an amplifier as well?
How do i determine if my headphones are underpowered?
I just plugged the sennheiser 280 pros (64 ohms) into the audio jack of my PC's logitech X-530 sound system, which has an amplifier
>>52566603
32 ohm, no but don't buy them unless you get a good bargain on them over 80 ohm
80 ohm, no
250 ohm, yes
What was the name of the equalizer software that /hpg/ uses?
I've forgotten
>>52566857
Nevermind, I remembered
soundmagic e50 vs e50s? I can't find shit on the difference between them
I can't tell how loud is too loud. How do I know if I'm permanently damaging my ears?
glad these shit threads are slowly dying
they have gotten so bad its not even funny
>>52567026
S is with microphone.
FEBRUARY 2ND
>>52567241
they're still better than desktop threads though
>>52567287
oh shit so there's no difference other than that
friendly reminder to self to never trust headfi for anything detailed ever again
>>52567135
I always use the lowest possible
>>52567429
never trust /hpg/ either
>>52567135
if it hurts ever so slightly you're way too loud, you should have it at the level were you want to turn it up a small notch but then you do not. if you do you can suffer slight damage over extended periods of listening. slightly softer than what you think is the max
>>52567436
well shit nigger, who do we trust then
A question to all my companions who are driving the K702 with a Fiio E10K: how much do you usually turn the knob and what are your volume settings? I usually turn the knob at level 2-3 on low gain without bass boost.
can i ask you guys about speakers as well?
http://www.amazon.de/Wavemaster-Regal-Lautsprecher-System-Bluetooth-Streaming-Aktiv-Boxen-66320/dp/B00O7RYZRQ/
http://www.amazon.de/EDIFIER-R1700BT-Studio-Bluetooth-Lautsprechersystem-Infrarot-Fernbedienung/dp/B00MXY21LW/
http://www.amazon.de/Logitech-980-000403-Z623-2-1-PC-Lautsprechersystem/dp/B003UPJXIC/
which ones should i pick? i mainly listen to bass heavy music. i'm coming from the logitech g51, which ironically were too heavy on the bass.
>>52567494
always believe in your dick
I've heard that newer audio systems (in the same price range of course) are more or less the same shit as older ones but with up to date connectors.
Is it bullshit or not?
>>52567695
incorrect. nwavguy revolutionized efficient audio device electronic structuring in 2012, so if you want new, cheap, efficient stuff you need something recent
will hm5 velour fit on dt880?
>Budget
600~ USD
>Location
Norway
>Source
Aune T1 DAC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Should be suited for prolonged use
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral/V-shaped, not so important
>Past headphones
DT 770 Pro 80 Ohm - Best I've used
DT 1770 Pro - Had rattling problems with these
Shure 1840 - Great, but prefer closed back.
>>52568186
theres really nothing in that bracket for closed. would you prefer i give an open rec or just reduce the money spent?
Is the AKG M80 MkII any good?
>>52568263
no, just fill out the form
>>52568231
I wouldn't mind spending less money for a good closed pair, 600 is just max I'd be willing to spend.
>>52568300
ah okay. i was kind of wrong anyway. the srh1540 should be want you want to get, but it will be more bassy than v shaped. the treble moves down, overall in a neutral fashion but like a mountain range, so it will be spiky
>>52567824
do you think he's coming back, anon
>>52568334
Thanks. I considered the srh1540's but if they're anything like the 1840's, although very light they kind of hurt the top of my scalp after a bit of use. But the tonal balance does seem nice and fits my taste.
>>52568461
nwavguy or the guy i responded to?
>>52568486
the next option would be the oppo pm-3 if you want to look at that too
>>52568495
the anon, I miss him
>>52568582
there there
an anon always comes back to those who are patient
I have a really dumb idiot question so ignore this please if that offends you and you have the need to announce it.
So the latest pairs of headphones I own both have popping noises while listening to audio. Had Porta Pro and I recently got the MDR7506. To attempt to fix the problem I bought a usb DAC, there is still popping however. Is it safe to say that the headphone itself is causing the problem and not my motherboard? The popping noises occur in my MP3 player as well for both headsets and I was wondering what could be the possible reasons for the popping noises?
>>52569444
i mean, are you just listening to one specific song for this noise? are you sure the song doesnt contain popping noises?
>>52569468
No, it happens in youtube videos, flac audio, etc.
All kinds of things.
pulled the trigger on a schiit modi/magni v2 uber stack and SHP9500+Alpha Pads+Mod cups [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET9TWgel7ec]
pretty damn excited. upgrading from fiio e10 and sony mdr-v6 & philips fidelio L1. Gonna bring the e10 to work where my philips is.
>>52569444
probably a lemon. contact the place you bought them from for a refund/exchange.
>>52569760
I thought about this but then why was the first pair also popping? It just seems unlikely that both would be fucked up on arrival.
>>52569509
then id be blaming your hearing.
if youve switched sources, media, and headphones and their connectors, your hearing is the only thing left, as long as the popping always sounds the same, that is. if it sounds different in different setups then you might be able to glean a clue
>>52569855
ah, didnt see that it happened to your portapros too.
do you have tinnitus? See an ENT.
>>52569915
>>52569939
Well I can replicate instances of popping and create environments where the popping noises are present but I'm not sure if that means anything. I really hope it's not my own hearing.
>>52570052
Link a few youtube videos with times where you hear consistent popping.
Set up my simple first measurement rig and managed to get REW in a decent working order with calibrations and whatnot. These are some initial results of HD 800 + EQ. Not how it sounds like, nowhere near this pretty. I will have to mess around with everything to make these repeatable(haven't even tested yet) and much more reliable.
>>52570504
are you using the minidsp umik-1
Who /HF-5/ here?
I got mine the other day, and I already had chance to appreciate their brain tickling nozzles, and their insane noise isolation.
Sound wise they feel like extremely refined, the music sound precise, if you pass me the term, and I totally love how they sound, however I'm a bit disappointed by the bass; not the quantity, but rather the volume: even when listening to things like Jethro Tull, where the bass guitar is absolutely central in many passages, it isn't as lively and emphasized as it should be. Can you suggest me a good EQ for Android? I want to try giving a little boost on the bass because I don't like missing the bass guitar in my favorite songs.
>>52570532
>minidsp umik-1
No, dbx RTA-M plugged into a Steinberg UR-22 MkII.
>>52570504
>simple first measurement rig
What is the coupler? How have you set it up?
What was the initial HD800 result?
>>52570550
>Who /HF-5/ here?
A while ago. Not anymore.
>suggest me a good EQ for Android?
Neutron is a player that has a parametric EQ built in. I have some misgivings about the Onkyo HF player, but it has the EQ.
System wide, Viper 4 Android, but the graphic EQ is not impressive. The convolver is legit and what you would want to use, but that requires more work than a parametric EQ to explain.
>>52570823
Thanks for the suggestions. Since I need a system wide EQ I gave a look to Viper 4 Android, but it seems more complicated than I need, not counting the wall of ideograms in the description and screenshots.
>>52570823
I'll post pictures tomorrow. I'm still missing some parts and there is no proper coupler yet. It's a mic located at a position close to ear canal entrance, not quite flush mounted. Around the entrance is a plate covered with foam at a slight angle which seems to seal decently well.
Initial HD 800 measurement looked like the usual HD 800 but amplitude variation seemed smaller overall. Especially the dip in upper mids and 6-8kHz region seemed tamer.
>Get hyped about getting first pair of high fidelity headphones
>Suddenly go 100% deaf in one ear with constant ringing
I'm not amused.
Noticed the little clear plastic thing attached to the leather headband on one side of my K7XX is halfway snapped (one side is snapped the other is intact) is this something to worry about? Can it be replaced?
>>52573536
I believe that's a common issue for the K7 series in general.
I don't think it's a critically important structural part, but you should probably email AKG to try getting a replacement part under warranty.
>>52573614
Huh ok. I got it in the first massdrop they ever did, you think it's still covered by warranty?
Sup /g/, I'm no audiophile but I'd like to get into it. the other day I was at my buddies house and tried out his bose trusound. These where one of the most comfortable set of headphones I had ever worn, but I noticed the sound was kinda soft( I guess thats how you would describe it) So my question is, is there anything with better sound quality and just as comfortable? any suggestions? I saw the bose in my base exchange for like $180, my budget is $200.
>>52573640
Well, the recent drops mention "2 year AKG warranty" so I assume so. The original might be different.
Doesn't hurt to ask either way.
>>52573659
Yeah I guess so.
>>52573647
Fill out the purchase advice template from the OP.
I'm looking for a new pair of UIEMs (since I've never owned a decent pair). I think that I've narrowed my choices down to the Soundmagic E80 or the Shure SE215. However, I was curious if anyone who has had or used the SE215 and upgraded to the 315 or 425 think that it is really worth the extra money?
My logic is that either I buy the SE215 now, or buy the E80 and save up for the 315 or 425 later, then use the E80 as a backup pair. Thoughts?
>>52573893
How the fuck is that my fault bitch?
>>52573893
wot
>>52573899
I never see people buy or recommend 315 or 425.
I'd just stick to SE215.
>>52573912
Thanks mate.
>>52570504
Can this kind of setup used to create accurate response for ears?
>>52573899
315 is very underwhelming, 425 is kind of too but definitely better and more neutral than the lower end versions. 215 is very bassy and different from the 315 or 425.
>>52573899
Audio Techinca just announced a new line of iems. E40 is in the same price bracket as the SE215. Could probably and see how that pans out.
>>52566125
>Ever worry about headset hair?
And that's why I switched to IEMs a couple years ago. Was creating a permanent crease that couldn't be completely washed out. People even started commenting on it.
It's okay, I'm sure I'll start losing my hair one day and get to switch over to K701s.
>>52574222
Well, hell. Maybe I will go with the Soundmagic E80s and wait for the new AT line.
>>52567135
Your ears are going to (gradually) break anyway as you get older. As long as you aren't physically hurting you might as well just go for it and enjoy the music. You listen to music to enjoy it, right?
Of course don't if you're already hearing impaired or have tinnitus or something. But it's not like you even want to hear a 17-20khz tone. It's not pleasant and you're not going to miss it. I don't.
>>52574342
Couldn't hurt.
>that feel when K7xx master race
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGBXnw86Mgc
:3
>>52575568
>3000$ total setup
>look at me guys I'm a female
>planning to get a k7xx when your setup is 3k
>sweden Y E S
what the fuck is wrong with you
>>52575568
TITS OR GTFO
>>52557271
mate, i'm literally using a GAYMER HEADSET and you can hear the recurring static throughout
i wouldn't worry about your setup
exceptional song, by the way
i almost want to buy a decent pair of headphones just to get into music
>>52575694
>literally using GAYMER HEADSETS
you could have good sound for the same price anon
>>52575568
ur not a female
Came back from vacation and this was waiting on my desk. One of the best purchase i've made. Everything is just so quality and it came with tons of accessories.
>>52576094
>tfw a girl will never call you a prancing la-la homo man
Are the DT770 250 ohm worth the extra $80 for an amp over the 80 ohm version with no amp? I know they're supposed to sound more neutral compared to the v shaped 80s, but how much different are they really? Enough to spend $80 extra?
I'm using an old stereo receiver to power my passive monitors and sometimes for my headphones. There's some hum when the speakers are on with nothing going through. Is that a sign it needs to be re-capped? How do I figure out what capacitors I need to buy, where do I get them, how do I remove/install them, etc?
Is there a guide to trusted CIEM and IEM brands? i feel like every day there is a new manufacturer selling thousand dollar ciems with dozens of balanced armatures, it would be nice if there was a good comparison.
>>52577067
>guide to trusted CIEM and IEM brands? i
Not really? As good as you can do is read reviews on headphonelist, but I at least know that the two original reviewers (Joe and Joker) have their own taste.
Measurements are very limited with the upper crust of in-ears. I have only a few plots lying around.
>i feel like every day there is a new manufacturer
It's an easy field to get into.
>thousand dollar ciems with dozens of balanced armatures
>moar coars meme
Close enough, isn't it?
Rather than carefully try to examine which is good or not, I can just say it is a waste of armatures.
What are the go-to entry level in ear phones? Im talking like up to like 40 bucks. What matters to me the most is build quality as Id prefer not to replace them every 2 months. I dont have sound preferences as far as they sound better than laptop speakers.
>>52577067
Notable one is JH, FitEar and Ultimate Ears. Dozens of balanced armature is kinda wasted as its hard to find the coherence of frequency response.
>>52577244
Xiaomi Piston 3. Less than 20 bucks, but the quality is impressive. Best entry level IEMs you can find.
>Budget
$120-150(will go to 200 if you can convince me it's worth)
>Location
Canada
>Source
Desktop
>Preferred type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed (if i decide to watch porn with volume, dont want anyone to hear)
>Comfort level
dont want sore ears or head, doesn't need to be immaculate.
>Preferred music
Wide variety, but if i listen to rock/electronic i want it to sound good.
>Past headphones
You'll just make gaymer jokes at me.
>>52577373
Thanks mate. Any recommended place to buy it from (Im in yurop) or do i just get them off of ebay or official page?
>>52577420
I forgot to mention that i plan on getting an amp, but if you can convince me the headset is good quality and doesn't need an amp, i can go a little above 200 as well.
>>52577420
how far are you from people watching porn?
I want to recommend akg 240 but if they're in the same room they might hear something because it's semi open. It barely leaks anything but it still leaks a tiny bit
if you think it's too risky, get dt770 pro 80 ohms or 250 ohms if you can get them for the same price as 80 ohms
>>52577535
im in my bedroom, so either suggestion should be helpful. I'll look into these headphones, thanks
>>52577567
dt770 is pretty bass heavy, so if you like bass it's an obvious choice
>>52577368
>>52577214
In theory more armatures sounds ideal, each armature working on a set range of frequencies dividing up the work. At what point does it stop being beneficial? 3, 4, 6 armatures? I'm guessing it's also the quality of the armatures being used right? What's the point of diminishing returns with IEMs and CIEMs?
>>52577575
I found the 250ohms for 200, or bundled with the amp for 422.. do the dt770s really need an amp?
>>52577592
80 ohms, no 250 ohms, yes
I read you were planning to get an amp, didn't read the rest of that post
250 ohms is basically the same as 80 ohms, but if you can find them for the same price of the 80 ohms and you already have an amp/are planning to get one you might aswell get the 250 ohms one
What amp are you getting that costs 222 btw
>>52577424
I got mine of bigbargainonline on ebay & they're real, arrived in a week or so even though the delivery time was 3-5 weeks estimate
>>52577424
Just buy them from where they cost less: in Europe they tend to cost more than they should. Still, they're worth the price: for 20€ probably there isn't anything better.
>>52577592
Just get the 80 ohm without an amp.
I'd say there's little point getting 250 ohm with a closed headphone like the DT770 because it makes it non-portable which is always a nice option to have.
>>52577580
It just my opinion. But I think 3 BA is the maximum amount for covering low,mid and high frequencies. More than 3 will cause some coherence issues. The diminishing return will be different for each people as usually over $200 IEM will sounds coloration on each own. If you want neutral IEM-sound, I think $150 is the point of diminishing return.
>>52577638
ah my apologies, the bundle only comes with the 80 ohms.
Regardless the amp is the Creative Sound Blaster E5, and its 200, for some reason they're selling the 250 ohms for 199 but the 80 ohms for 222 on amazon.
>>52577643
Thanks for the advice, i'll wait a few minutes for any other help and make my decision soon
>>52577673
it's a dac/amp with good reviews so I guess you're fine with it. Not sure if you need a dac tho
no point getting it with the 80 ohms unless you plan to get heavier down the line.
Maybe you can get the AKG 550/553 instead with the money of the amp, works fine without an amp too
>>52577673
Yeah, the DT770 is a little expensive right now since it had a good price over the holidays.
Might not be a bad idea to wait for it to drop some.
>>52577736
looking into the 550, a little pricey, as i plan to buy a microphone aswell, but i dont think a cheaper headset with an amp can get too much cheaper regardless.
>>52577797
how do you feel about the akg 550 no amp recommendation?
>>52577820
K550 is pretty much endgame for closed headphones
there's a few higher priced that are also very highly regarded like MSR7, but they're few and far inbetween
Comfort will be less than the dt770s, but that's to be said for basically any pair of headphones (out of the box)
>>52577865
so basically, 550s are a good choice as long as i dont need these things to be incredibly comfortable?
I need help, /g/
My headphones still play the sound when I plug them into my laptop but they neither get registered nor does the laptop stop playing it through the speakers.
Do I need to get a new one?
I can't even watch porn properly like that.
>>52577580
>each armature working on a set range of frequencies dividing up the work
That's not how the crossovers are usually arranged. Common way is to stack TWFKs into one frequency range, the little dual driver that used to be popular as a standalone turnkey product. You should take a look at the TWFK size, it is a really tiny driver, so stuffing them into a shell isn't that hard..
It's more about chest thumping a number than any real design reason. It's very common to have 10-12 drivers with only a 3 way first/second order crossover, cheaping out even at the high end
The acoustics are simple enough, it sums up in a lumped circuit model very nicely. The drivers themselves do not have such a good response, and this is where your problems start to come in. Lots of high frequency modes, and most have very underwhelming treble extension. BA isn't necessarily better sound quality than a dynamic driver either.
Here is a somewhat dated chart showing the BAs used in IEMs.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/604851/
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Is there anyone here who prefers to use earbuds for any reason?
I recently bought these little shits from Aliexpress. Usually head-fi meme gear is flat out awful and I fell for that shit many times, but these are really good, they sound legit better than my other earbuds such as the Sennheirser MX580 and AKG K319 which costed 50 and 80 bucks respectively. Of course they are far better than low tier earbuds such as the AKG Y15 and the 10 bucks Senns.
Has anyone here tried their other more expensive models?
>>52577842
It's the other go-to option for closed headphones around the $150-200 range, so it's a good choice.
I think the K553 is a minor revision to the K550, but it's only available in the US.
>>52577895
well you can make them more comfortable by putting on different pads afterwards
as long as you don't want a pretty extreme sound profile you should be very content with the k550. If you want stomping bass, m50x or dt770 is the way to go
>>52577910
what happens if you lower the output level (of the speakers)
>>52577895
>>52577865
K550 is somewhat flawed and pretty hard to work with. It's a V-shaped headphone, with sharp treble spikes to offset the bass lift, or it would be if the bass were consistent.
Since CAD is collapsing, the k550 price is moving closer to other closed headphones, the Nad HP50/PSB M4u1 as an example.
>>52577975
Also just checked and the black MSR7 is selling at $186 right now on US Amazon at least, so if you're willing to forgo some comfort that's another option if you can get it at a comparable price.
You really can't go wrong with any of them.
>>52577820
by the way, do you already have plans for the mic or also need help with that?
>>52577983
550s in canadian currency is going to come to like 400 dollars after tax, IF shipping is free. what are the dt990s like? found a dt990 80 ohms for $238 or a dt990 250 ohm pro with the same dac amp for $397
