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Blue Alps Model M edition

>Buyer's Guide:
>http://pastebin.com/QJD7fSGU

>Where to Buy:
>http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL

>FAQs:
>http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp

Old Thread >>52432797
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Is the wasd v2 as bad as everyone says it is?
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>>52455151
For the last time, it's only the keycaps.
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>>52455151
just get the barebones and some nicer caps from somewhere else and you're guchi
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>>52455171
Expand
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>>52455099
Speaking of blue alps.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-NOS-KEYTRAK-Blue-Alps-clicky-Computer-Keyboard-with-trakball-BOXED-/311523240008

I kinda want to get this, but that price.
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>>52455195
I think you mean "explain".

tldr; keycaps shit, board good
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>>52455151
Its good, the only issue is with the keycpas. So if you can, grap it barebones and buy the caps somewhere else.

The only issue wasd boards have is ping on some boards. If it happens, you only need to open the board and put something, like tape/cloth between the PCB / Plate and the case, so it fits better.
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First for rubberdome > cherry shit
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>>52455262
oh hai poor furryfag
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>>52454983
>>52455023
>>52455027
I have heard that clears and topre were similar not topre and browns. Might just have to get a POK3R, but the sounds from the HHKB are intoxicatingly good.
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>>52453836
this guy knows it
like foreal I like this person
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>>52455311
They are similar on the tactile bump, but not on the weight. Ergo-clears feel more like topres, although still heavier.

Either way, I like Clears/Ergo-Clears better.
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>>52455334
I like you too anon.
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Been using pic related for about a month now and i love it. Just ordered a full set of vortex white backlit keycaps on massdrop so I'll be swapping a few keys out once the set arrives
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>>52455346
How does Topre compare with blues in terms of weight?
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does brandnew abs feel like old pbt?
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>>52455311
>but the sounds from the HHKB are intoxicatingly good.

when I started thinking stuff like this,
I knew I could have bought 10 different keyboards, but I wouldn't have stopped lusting after that sexy aesthetic and sound.

So I sold all my keyboard assets and bought me an hhkb.
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>>52455375
>How does Topre compare with blues in terms of weight?

I get less tired at the end of the day.
At the same time, topre require a bit of force right off the bat, where as blues were kinda light up until the click, so they felt kinda wobbly to me if I was just sliding my fingers across the keys.

Topre feels more solid in that regard.
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>>52455377
>does brandnew abs feel like old pbt?
no.
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>>52455375
Lighter.
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>>52455409
>>52455456
Sorry, forgot to mention 55g. Is it still lighter?
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>>52455467
Yep.
Actuation force would be the same, but blues get heavier than that before bottoming out, while topres dont.
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>>52455360
You're a funny guy, anon.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT_MRyn6Zhs
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Why does my keyboard have to sound so much louder than my mouse click? would getting o rings for my blue switch ruin the experience? I love the feel but the sound is so loud
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>>52455360
I dont know much about this board. about cherry switches in general, but this board always looks nice to me with the media control buttons and steel case and a nice rest for your palms
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>>52455493
Awesome, thanks. 55g it is for me then. I'm ready to join the Topre meme race. :^)
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I'm going to get the KG70 Brown switches, what do you faggots think?
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>>52455650
non standard bottom row
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>>52455671
who cares
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>>52455650
browns are not great and you don't need a special keyboard for video games
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>>52455689
>you don't need a special keyboard for video games
talk for yourself sir
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>>52455681
You, when your shitty stock caps start wearing.
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enjoying the fuck out of it so far. Browns are pretty good so far. DO know what the due ment by clears feel smoother.
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>>52455785
>!rshitg0dKA

you don't need a trip.
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Hi meme friendos :^)
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>>52455785
noice, i kinda like the leds. maybe ill solder some onto mine someday.
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Black realforce
vs
White realforce
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>>52455557
I have one too, its lovely. build is great and media keys are awesome.
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>>52455895
Black realforce.

How is that even a question.
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>>52455895
I told you already.


White.

Black txt on black caps is retarded
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>>52455785
So now that vortex has some proper molds for doubleshot backlit keycaps it's only a question of time until they redo their translucent pbt set and get the number row right.

Right?
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V80 clears on massdrop, should I?
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>>52455785
looks nice, but idk about that font dude :/
browns are nice tho, love those shits on pic related
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Reminder the one true tactile switch is Topre.
Clears are nice but ultimately they're still completely linear after the bump.
Browns are complete shit.
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>>52455920
Not him, but wouldn't my co-workers ridicule me for bringing an ancient-looking desk fedora to work?

And goddamn, this WASD V2 with clears pings quite noticeably. And I didn't even notice any pinging with my Filco.
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>>52455901
I dont know
I love the white realforce but the black case is just a nice thing to have
>>52455920
I could type on blanks it isnt a problem for me to not see wich key is what autism
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>>52456030
Topre is a rubber dome. Calm down with this delusional faggotry
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>>52456061
And yet still feels better.
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>>52456048
>Not him, but wouldn't my co-workers ridicule me for bringing an ancient-looking desk fedora to work?

It's easier to justify a "20$" piece of junk than justify spending 200$ on a keyboard.
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>>52456055
>I could type on blanks it isnt a problem for me to not see wich key is what autism
I DO type on blanks, and barely legible black text on dark caps would annoy me to no end, just by existing near me.

It's not a matter of needing to read.
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>>52456030
Define "tactile"

Topre switches are nice, but I don't see how Topre discredits other switches from being tactile.
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>>52456095
Holy shit, good point.
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>>52456082
Enjoy overpaying for your rubber dome meme faglord
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>>52455844
But its the best trip!
>>52455891
I was surprised at how nice the led's actually were.
>>52455937
Id hope so!
>>52456007
The font is very futuristic lel. Probably will pick up caps at one point.
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>>52456139
Ooo, scathing.
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>>52455891
>maybe ill solder some onto mine someday
For all that I remember, the pok3r PCB accomodates for LEDs, but you'll also have to solder in resistors, lest you'll end up frying your LEDs the moment you plug in your keyboard.
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>>52456030
>>52456082
>my opinion is a fact!
literally every single thread when someone asks "wot switch is gud" the answer is "IT'S COMPLETELY 100% SUBJECTIVE"
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>>52456119
alright I guess I agree actually
black blanks would make a black realforce better
but white it is
>>52456139
>Enjoy overpaying for your rubber dome meme faglord
I will enjoy it thanks mayn
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>>52456127
This is the force curve of an MX brown, red line added by me.
Notice the curve is completely linear for nearly 1mm at the start of the travel, then has a small tactile bump that is only about 5g above what it would be if it continued being linear.
Then all of the travel past the actuation point is linear.
So a brown is literally a linear switch with a tiny little bump in the middle of it. Even an MX blue has a more pronounced tactile bump.
Clears are better in that the tactile bump is large both in strength and width, but ultimately due to the way MX switches in general work, you can't have an MX switch that is anything other than purely linear after the actuation point.
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>>52456203
>you can't have an MX switch that is anything other than purely linear after the actuation point
I'm aware of that, but I don't think that this discredits them from being tactile.

They still have a tactile bump which, unless you have some kind of novel definition for "tactile", seems like what would be the qualifier for a tactile switch.
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>>52456236
Because at some point it stops being a clear tactile bump and instead just becomes a minor aberration in the switch.
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>>52456030
>I believe that the only tactile switches out there are Cherry MX and Topre
>Heed my advice, for I have been in the game 3 months!
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>>52456457
t. poorfag
I'll concede that Alps tactiles are good (better than cherries because they can actually be tactile all the way down due to not having an inherently shit design). Buckling spring is good too.
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>>52456030
Not being able to not bottom out on a mechanical keyboard is just retarded.
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>>52455650
I'd suggest the KC60
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>>52456007
This keyboard always cracks me up when I see it, not even sure why. I designed a layout that's similar and thought I really wanted it, at least, until I saw this board. It looks way too much like some sort of beat-pad than a keyboard.
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>>52456244
What is "some point" ?
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>>52456485
>t. poorfag
I wish people would actually formulate arguments instead of calling others poor based on what kind of niche products they choose to spend their money on.

-posted from my HHKB
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http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-dolch-keycap-set/
Too bad I can't stand cherries.
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>>52456822
Man, those prices keep going up.
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Where to buy Topre keycaps
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>>52456485
>poorfag
What exactly does this have to do with anything? I didn't even belittle Topre in any way, actually I'd get a Topre if there was a 55g Leopold.
I just made fun of you for actually claiming that Topre has some kind of monopoly on tactility, which is ultimately utter nonsense.
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>tfw when my uncle is gonna ask his dad if he has any old IBM keyboards that he can give to me
Feels good man :^))
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I was thinking about what kind of portable layout I would actually go for if I ever wanted such a board, and I came up with this. I've seen similar ones before (like >>52456007), but I don't like how the arrow keys just kind of meld into everything else. It's hard to say if this is just a matter of me not being used to it, or if it would actually be a usability thing. The idea I had (probably blasphemous to some) would be to mix profiles - either all SA with DSA arrows, or Cherry with G20 arrows. The latter would be more appealing from a portability perspective, as SA are pretty tall; having said that, the height difference between the sphericals would offer greater physical distinction.
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>>52456937
>Where to buy Topre keycaps
See
>>52455537
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>>52457139
You may want a whitefox.

Group buy ended.
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>>52457284
>topre stops making replacement keys
doesnt mean third parties can make it and sell it
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>>52457319
The physical true fox layout is pretty much what I was thinking about, yes (though I think the gap between the rightmost modifier and arrows is awkward-looking). I was more musing about how I would differentiate the arrows from their surroundings without gaps.
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>>52457319
not that guy but
Muh iso
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>>52456030
>Clears are nice but ultimately they're still completely linear after the bump.
What the fuck else should they do after the tactile portion? Do you want it to vibrate or some shit?
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I'm looking into purchasing my first mechanical keyboard but I'm at a total loss. I was originally eyeballing the K70 with browns, but apparently the LEDs die often. The CM Storm QuickFire TK looks nice. Any suggestions?

I'm from Canada if it helps.
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>>52457319
I sure hope nobody uses this keyboard portable. Huge bezel and aluminium case make this anything but portable.
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>>52457370
>Do you want it to vibrate or some shit?
An amusing thought, but he is comparing to a smooth, rounded force curve like Topre.
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>>52455099
is there some shit to make my keyboard quieter?
It's when the caps hit the bottom of the switch that annoys me, no click sounds as have my glorious MX Blacks
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>>52457399
>my glorious MX Blacks
Fuck off to PCMR.
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>>52457399
O-rings. There's different o-rings that bring a different feel depending on your keyboard and your bump
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>>52457420
Sorry for wanting a smooth feel to my keyboard. Green a shit, red a shit, blue are meh

>>52457429
that's the thing, forgot the name of them. Thanks, will google/read/decide on my own
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>>52457364
>i want to separate them
>i dont want a gap
Hurr
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>>52457365
Embrace the ansi.
It's superior.
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I went to best buy and tried out their gamer keyboards.
I liked the red switches the most, but I feel like I shouldn't make a decision purely from 1 store display.
Reds feel like my rubber dome IBM but with literally zero resistance, it's quite nice.
Should I look into browns or clears or just get a board with red switches?
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>>52457504
Having a portable board is what this thought experiment is about. Adding gaps takes up space which is the antithesis to a small size.
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>>52457550
>Reds feel like my rubber dome IBM but with literally zero resistance, it's quite nice.
>This linear switch feels like a tactile switch except not
Come again?
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Do you people all take your keyboards to and from work or something?
Why would you want a keyboard with no function keys for home use?
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>>52457552
>Having a portable board is what this thought experiment is about.

Then arrows aren't necessary at all.
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Just bought Granite. I wish Matt3o wasn't such a fucking Jew with the RGB modifiers, if it was like $10 I would have bought it but not $20.
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Just got an e-mail stating that the Infinity ErgoDox is going to launch again on MD.
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>>52457632
Did I ever say they were necessary? I would prefer them.

>>52457659
>I wish Matt3o wasn't such a fucking Jew with the RGB modifiers, if it was like $10 I would have bought it but not $20.
Why do you think he sets the price?
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>>52455882
Im thinking about getting all black caps soon
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>>52457583
>Do you people all take your keyboards to and from work or something?

I do, and I am a heavy vi user at work, due to working with unix servers.
I have basically zero use for f keys.
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>>52457550
Which switches did you try?
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>>52457370
>What the fuck else should they do after the tactile portion
The tactile bump should go all the way through. The actuation point should be in the middle of the bump, not after.
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>>52457706
if I had to carry around my keyboard, I'd want it to be wireless with a stowaway dongle.
Even my $10 logitech mouse has that.
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>>52457780
blues, razer greens, reds
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>>52457669
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I just ordered a realforce fucksake
what should I do..
wait - see what I want - cancel - order ergodox
get realforce instead
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>>52457807
>wireless
Unreliable and needs drivers and shit.
Also battery.

I can't afford to have my keyboard let me down in a mission critical moment.
I'm actually ordering one of these little fuckers for 3$
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>>52457846
Ergodox is a meme and cherry switches are obsolete.

Keep the realforce order, assuming it's white 55g.
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It's not a mechanical, But I found a Dell Quetkey which I have learned is made by NMB, the same company that produced the thinkpad keyboards.

If you're too poor for a mech, or need something quick, check your thrift stores for the Dell RT7D5JTW QuetKey.
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>>52457916
You did good.
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>>52457519
>Forget everything you've learned so far
Never
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>>52457872
It's the white - 55g ofcourse it is
but ergodox is just a lovely board
I am guessing the switch options will be huge on the ergodox
might even see zealios
I dont know I really want to try an ergodox
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>>52457916
I'm using one right now, it's pretty good for a rubber dome, hardly any mush.
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>>52457872
nah fuck it I will make one for cheap to my own handsize rather than paying a shitton for a memedrop
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Whats a good keyboard for me:

>Large hands
>Lots of typing mistakes on Cherry Browns (recently got a k70 on sale for $50 off, looking to return it)
>Slow typer (<50 wpm)
>Full 100% keyboard layout.
>Preferably no rgb
>No budget limit
>Classic keyboard look (no fancy gamer stuff or macro keys)

Im looking at either the cherry greens, a membrane keyboard, or buckling spring, any other suggestions would be nice.
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How much have you spent on the granite drop
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>>52458210
Cherry greens if you like the click, or clears if you dont.

Get a wasd/code fullsize board, or maybe a ducky one. There are some non-backlit ones to be released with nice thick PBT stock keycaps.
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>>52458258
$75 on Round 3.
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>>52458258
>How much have you spent on the granite drop

zero.
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>>52458459
Home you enjoy ur meme :)!
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>>52458508
I have been enjoying it since Jan 7th, thanks!
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>>52458546
>>52458459
>hhkb with blank keycaps
>hhkb with dyesub caps
nice try googleimagerfag
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>>52458571
my blank hhkb is posted twice or 3 times in this very thread.

this picture was just meant to trigger /g/.
Works everytime like clockwork.
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>>52458258
$0. Overpriced ugly meme caps desu
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>go to pexon cables
>no L-shaped connector usb mini cables

REEEEEE
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>tfw getting used to using your thumb instead of your index finger for the space bar.
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>>52458781
>this retard again
What's your wpm anyway? I still don't understand how anyone learns to use their index for space, even 60 year old mother uses her thumb for space while hunting and pecking with her index.
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>>52455099
Does anyone sell sets of ALPS keycaps?
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>>52458759
making your own cable isnt hard at all just get som 550 paracord and your wished cable and sleeve it

>>52458820
comfortability > high wpm
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>>52458820
I worked with a customer at work who had learned to use a mouse upside down. He had the cable pointed towards him and grabbed the mouse by the buttons. He says that because he learned that way he can;t really use it normally.
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>>52458892
I don't even want a fancy cable.

I want a SHORT cable with usb mini and angled plug.
too bad chinese shit on ebay points RIGHT instead of left.
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>>52458820
My WPM used to be at around 70, on 10fastfingers it's 53 right now since I keep either hitting the spacebar to early or not at all and have to go back to correct it.

There's a bunch of knacks in my typing form that need fixing, especially how I employ my right pinky.
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>>52458868
Tai-hao had some groupbuys on massdrop, but only thin doubleshot ABS. Matias was suposed to deliver a PBT set, but he is slow as fuck.

You can get nice PBT sets on old boards tho, like the PBT ones from SGI Granite.
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>>52458868
Get an old apple keyboard and harvest the caps. They're fairly thick and dyesubbed, though the spacebar is ABS and I'm not sure about the compatibility with modern day alps keyboard stabilizers.
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>>52459028
>>52458985
Thanks.
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>>52458942
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Short-0-65ft-Right-Angle-USB-A-to-90-Degree-Left-Angle-Mini-B-USB-Data-Cable-/321432108079
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>>52459076

>Shipping:
>Does not ship to Italy | See details
>Item location:
>HK, China
>Ships to:
>Worldwide See exclusions

a-appreciate it
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>>52459100
>Does not ship to Italy
at least we can have pizzas
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>>52457853
>I'm actually ordering one of these little fuckers for 3$
I have a ton of them for travelling overseas. Easy to pack and keep in my carry-on backpack.
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>>52459100
who even lives in a shoe
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>>52458597
The poor ergonomics of it trigger the fuck out of me.
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>>52459164
>who even lives in a shoe
feet, I guess.
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>>52459206
I am not really a foot person desu
Can I get banned for this
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Better get your Russian caps soon before the cold war heats up.
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>>52459254
It contains nipples, so yes.
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>>52459256
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Thoughts on dolch?
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>>52459256
>>52459408
Гдe? Cyкa ;)
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>>52459435
looks nice.

not a big fan of not sculpted profiles tho
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>>52459455
cyka amerikano fuckin amerikano cyka blat davay davay idi nachoej
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>>52459455
Pyccкий, дa ?
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>>52459295
Rip me
Moottwo pls be kind
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>>52459256
I want them so fucking much, do you know where I can get them but for ISO UK?
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What feels the most like a model m, but quieter.
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>>52459843
Cherry MX Greens with the clicky slider removed.
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>>52458210
I think model M is a good choice.
I have one and I also have big hands but I type a bit faster. Keys are pretty big and typing is nice.
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>>52459642
>Pyccкий, дa ?
дa

Are you guys buying Cyrillic keycaps because you speak Russian or just for the looks?
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>>52459953
I'm learning - intend to reach a point of fluency.
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>>52459953
looks.
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>>52459953
I'm guessing most people on GH getting in on the Cyrillic/Hangul dyesubs do not speak any related languages.
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>>52459953
>>52459993
To add to that, I'm mainly curious for future reference.
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>>52459953
>дa reads DA
>д is on L

nani?
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>>52457916
I use one of these at work even though I have access to dozens of model M's and other assorted mechanical keyboards.
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where can I find a shine 4 with mx clears in stock
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>>52458210
Agreeing with the Model M suggestion unless you intend on playing video games on it where the 2KRO will be an annoyance.
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>>52460024
>>д is on L
I don't think there's any correlation between Russian/English layouts.

>>52459997
>looks.
>>52460012
>I'm guessing most people on GH getting in on the Cyrillic/Hangul dyesubs do not speak any related languages.

Kind of ironic because Russian speaking mechfags are mostly trying to get blank keycaps or keycaps without Cyrillic.

>>52459993
>I'm learning - intend to reach a point of fluency.

Are you studying it by yourself or you visit classes? I guess it's rare to find someone who'd study Russian without a reason. At least on 4chan the majority would try to learn Japanese instead.
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>>52460246
>Are you studying it by yourself or you visit classes? I guess it's rare to find someone who'd study Russian without a reason. At least on 4chan the majority would try to learn Japanese instead.

Independently and may start lessons with a local tutor that a friend of mine knows - she is from Belarus but has lived here (the UK) for quite some time now, speaks both Russian and English flawlessly.

I have always been interested in the place and intend to go to Moscow and maybe St Petersburg in either Sept/Oct/Nov/Dec, depending on certain things.
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>>52460352
Is this good if you don't know shit about any of the historical figures?
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I thrifted a nice mechy for a dollar the other day, but it connects thru MIDI
can I just get a midi>usb converter and use that?

it's standard 5 prong midi, I can plug it into my music gear
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>>52455198
It's always worth questioning any NOS that is opened.
I would not pay that for an opened unit.
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>>52460421
>it connects thru MIDI
It's probably an XT or AT keyboard connector.
You need a Soarer's converter.
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>>52460413
>if you don't know shit about any of the historical figures?

yes, although you really should.
Greek and Roman history is some of the best culture the western world has to offer.
You should study it before it gets deleted by sandniggers.

t. itanon
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>>52460604
>trackball meme
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>>52460722

It's a good meme
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>>52460722

Trackballs are not a meme.
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I made a mockup of Pok3r Elvish Granite in a wooden case.

Not sure if I should get the caps...
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>>52458258
>$220
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>look up noopoo lolita keyboards
>every redditor tried to scratch off the logo
what a bunch of cucks
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>live in Portugal
>want to get a mechanical keyboard
>there's literally nothing with MX Blue Switches and the PT layout

this is living hell
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>>52461318
looks like the language of terrorism to me
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Should I get the Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2016.

I just want to play StepMania and this fucking membrane Delux K9020 chokes itself on jacks and ghosts like a bitch.
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What's the cheapest 10-keyless mx red switch keyboard that doesn't have shit gamer branding all over the case?
I don't care about the caps, I'm just gonna replace them later.
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>>52461546
No.

Also stepmania is shit, I didn't know people actually still played it.
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>>52455099
Where the fuck do you get one of those?!
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>>52461568
Is the Razer bad? Why?
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>>52455937
honestly the number row isn't even that big of a deal
the light comes through enough to see the numbers regardless
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>>52457384
>huge bezel
>hardly looks bigger than 2 inches
??????
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what keyboard should i get for osu? just using the keyboard on toshiba satellite 745 and people say i should get a mechanical one
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>>52461590

Razer products have a 20% chance of failing within 2 years. They are also quite gaudy.
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whats the deal with the switch stuff? the fuck do the colors mean?
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>>52461369
where can i buy one?
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>>52461546
that keyboard is trash dude
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>>52461744
The different colors are used for different switches which have different qualities
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>>52461785
is there a /g/ chart?
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>>52461546
>>52461634
>SM and osu retards in one thread
Get the fuck out.
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>>52461826
is the noppoo lolita a good keyboard? it looks nice and the name will match the largest folder on my HDD
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>>52461490
Use ANSI instead.
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>>52461894
I'd only worry about the kalih switches, but it caught my attention because of it's silly name.

They still sell these, right?
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>>52461894
it has kailh switches
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>>52461925
ANSI doesn't have a ç key tho
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>>52461926
>They still sell these, right?

you can buy some from here pretty cheap

https://corus-kb.com/en/33-spyder-series
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>>52461894
>is the noppoo lolita a good keyboard?

Good, but not great.
The price is the best thing about this keyboard.
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>>52461973
where the hell can i buy one, does noppoo even have a website?
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>>52461894
is it just me or is this keyboard only popular because of that name?
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How does this make you feel?
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>>52461973
just the price? are the switches a drawback or are they actually good?
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>>52462000
>where the hell can i buy one

https://corus-kb.com/en/33-spyder-series
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>>52461949
'+c gives ç

brhue here, didnt take more than two weeks geting used to ansi.


Or, if you like your layout that much, just buy any ISO board and use blanks. The layout shouldnt be different.
Or get an ozone strike pro and replace the switches.
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>>52462017
confused and disgusted
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>>52462022

Better than your typical membrane keyboard, but worse than Cherry switches, or so I am told.
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Why doesn't anyone ever talk about those Star Trek keycaps anymore?
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>>52462099
wat
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>>52462110

Oopps. Wrong picture.
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>>52462212
Probably because it looks ugly as fuck
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>>52462212
>numpad on the right
Triggered.
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>>52462044
>>52461962
pic related is sold out every fucking where
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>>52462282
oh i didn't even know there was a black/red version
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Anyone ever used one of these keyboards?

How are they like?

One-inch keys sound uncomfortable to type on.
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>>52462375

Have you seen this yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftDkBFz9BII
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>>52462375
looks like a keyboard for retards
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>Using a Lolita keyboard at a lan party
>Someone's little sister starts asking a bunch of questions
>Everyone is looking at me weird

Has this happened to anyone else?
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So Is the browns basically how the blue feels but without the click clack sound?

Wanna start streaming so that might be a nuisance
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>>52462416
do you have the spyder version or the original?
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>>52462416
i don't get it, is lolita supposed to mean something? is it a weeb thing?
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>>52461826
Aren't rhythm games the games that get the most out of mechanical keyboards?
The ones that put them to test?
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>>52462433
>without the click clack sound?

You still get the clack sound which is the sound of the keys bottoming out and striking the upper plate of your keyboard. Instead of the clicking, you get another sound, but this other sound is barely audible.
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>>52462416
nope. most of us are normal people, so creepy shit like that never happens
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>>52462434
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I don't have a mechanical keyboard but this is what I use. I got it at a salvation army for $1. I cleaned it up really well and personally love it.
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>>52462498
Pretty much every computer in my high school had those.

They were great to type on.
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>>52462496
>a and s are backwards
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>>52461634
Why do you care about a keyboard for osu! ?

I play it all the time and the only shit that matters is literally your mouse.
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>>52462498
>quiet key

wrong thread son
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>>52462468
Real rhythm games aren't played on keyboards
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>>52462498
pertty comfy atleast.
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>>52462498
I picked up one of those from my school's dump.
Couldn't get it working using a PS2/USB adapter, didn't work with my old PC either. The numlock seems to be working, but I can't type anything at all.

For now, it's sitting in the closet. Currently using my HP multimedia keyboard. Great keyboard with a nice click to it.
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>>52457139
Look up the "Smart 68" keyboard, it's the exact layout you've posted, and it's completely programmable. I'm not a fan, but only due to the price. There are plenty of other boards like that. Here's the project images from the Smart 68: http://imgur.com/a/b5G48

The WhiteFox is exactly what you want, but it's a pain to get ahold of, and I know I'm not selling mine. There will probably be more group buys soon, it's a great board and probably my favorite.

If you're adamant about using separate key profiles on a board without a discrete arrow cluster, you could use DCS or SA on all of your keys, but use a different row for the arrow cluster. For example, use all R1 for the arrow cluster, but have the bottom portion flipped, so they cup your fingers. This way you can at least use the same profile for all of your keys, but you'll have an arrow cluster that's easily identifiable without looking at the board.

There's actually a great poll on MD that has the keyboards you'd want. Here's the link:

https://www.massdrop.com/vote/compact-60-ish-sized-with-discreet-arrow-keys
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>>52462459
little girl
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>>52462565
how is keyboard bms not a "real" rhythm game
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>>52462471
So can I call it "a less audible mx blue?"
Because that's what I want.
If not, what should I look for?
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>>52462433
>>52462471
>>52462783
No, browns have significantly less tactility than a blue.
Gateron browns are somewhere between an MX brown and an MX clear, that might be what you want.
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>>52462818
hows the durability of gaterons? i had a really shitty experience with the switches in a 2014 Blackwidow (they stopped working after like 3 months) and I've been skeptical of the durability of any non cherry switch.
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>>52462876
Takes time to tell how well they'll perform in the long run, but the materials they use feel better than more recent MX linears with their scratchy feeling.
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my spraypaint job was really shit since it was windy outside today, so I sanded down the case. I kind of like the sanded down look of the case now, give opinions.

also the keys are fucking disgusting because this has been sitting in my closet for over a year.
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>>52462818
I'm a fucking pleb so I'm only looking for consumer grade shit.

I'm really mirin' the K70 RGB from Corsair, it only comes with browns and reds though.

Reds are utter shit imo, browns afaik are similar-ish to blues. Perhaps less clicky and tactile, but still on the same boat.
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>>52462876
i have a keyboard with gateron browns and i prefer it over normal browns. the keys presses feel smoother like browns that have been lubed up or something. no way to tell if they will last as long as cherry mx switches though since they only recently came out
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>>52462903
Corsair is overpriced shit.
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>>52462628
>if I ever wanted such a board
I don't actually want a portable board (right now, anyway).

>I've seen similar ones before
I know different plus-60% boards exist, even ones that would fit my layout exactly.

>If you're adamant about using separate key profiles on a board without a discrete arrow cluster
The idea is to not waste space by distancing the arrows from the rest of the keys, but beyond that I'm not adamant about anything.

>use a different row for the arrow cluster
This is an interesting idea, though. Worth considering.
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https://www.massdrop.com/buy/e-element-rgb-keyboard

anyone had experience with these?
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So, I got to try out some topre switches firsthand today. Compared them directly to my MX greens.

I know it's subjective, but I actually wouldn't mind topre switches if they had ones that offered the same amount of pressure as my greens. I've gotten used to the force required to acctuate MX greens and by comparison the topre switches feel too loose and soft to me, and remind me of rubber domes too much. They feel cheap and comparable to most gamer keyboards.

Does such a thing exist or is this only a fantasy? Again, I'm looking for topre switches with the same acctuation pressure as MX greens (around 70g if I'm not mistaken).
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>>52463245
No, Topre only comes in 35, 45, and 55 cN actuation force varieties.
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