Limited edition edition.
Round 4 Granite keyset group buy is active.
>Seriously guys, this is *really* the last time we're going to make these keycaps, and we mean it this time!
>Buyer's Guide:
>http://pastebin.com/QJD7fSGU
>Where to Buy:
>http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
>FAQs:
>http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp
>Old Thread >>52381459
>>52387335
Name of that keyboard?
>>52387390
It's in the filename; GH60, It's a pretty badass board. Completely programmable keybaord, able to flash the firmware, able to use almost any layout you can imagine (within a 60% form factor). I don't own one of the originals, but I've got two FC60's from one of the group buys last year, the things a beast.
>>52387454
is that the infinite layer one from assdrop the other day?
sindarin y/n?
>>52387335
Is it really worth it?
It would cost $67 for my CM Quick Fire Rapid.
I could get custom keycaps at wasdkeyboards.com for $47. They are ABS, though.
>its made of a high quality japanese rubber
>>52387335
ive got a ducky shine zero tkl and I love it, don't think its limited but I wanna be in the mech kb club, will you guys be my friends???
>>52388135
No. Post pics or you cant enter.
Is this the hhkb thread?
>>52387778
Somebody may have made an infinite layer mod, but the default is 9 layers, but you can do anything your mind can think of with them. You can program a key to change to another key after holding it for X seconds (SpaceFN's a great example of this), you can make quick layer swap button combos, etc. It's just a ridiculously good board for a ridiculously low price. Oh, and it has a switch-top removal plate, so you don't need to desolder your switches to swap them out or mod them, which is a huge plus for when you want to try out new switches.
>>52387951
You can't really get 'custom keycaps' in the same sense. Yeah, you can get some different coloured caps and put pictures on them, but the wasd OEM caps are terrible. You might as well order some Rosewill caps for $12 if you're going to go that route.
Whether it's really worth it is hard to say. I put money aside to buy these since the last drop. It's something I waited out to see if I really wanted them, and I've decided to go for it. The caps are, without a doubt, overpriced and the creator is pulling some bullshit with the way he grouped them (almost everybody's forced to buy at least 3 different sets), but that doesn't matter much to me since I grabbed every set and doubles of some. They're a joy to type on and they look great, too.
If you're unsure, though, try buying a set of DSA from SP. They're who make these caps, and you can get a much cheaper set of blanks from them, though, I'm not sure if they have all the sizes included in this drop.
>>52387951
These are far far far better than WASD. Get anything besides WASD keycaps.
Will the granite keycaps feel good on a novatouch coming from the stock keycaps?
I'm a bit worried about how low profile they are.
>>52388239
I saw your reddit post almost a year ago :^)
>>52388342
>he fell for the premium rubberdome meme
>>52388450
Poorfags should really just stay the fuck out of /mkg/ threads.
They hear the word rubberdome, and look at their wallets, then go nuts
>>52388481
How is a rubberdome you can get off a thrift store not poorfag tier? Oh, so you're talking about your PREMIUM NIPPON FOLDED OVER 9000 TIMES rubberdome that is still a rubberdome, only 300 times more expensive
Good you know that price obviously equates to quality
>>52388559
Cheap membrane shit:
- Must bottom out to actuate
- No spring
- Mushy
Topre:
- actuates properly
- Spring
- Crisp
>>52388599
>Must bottom out to actuate
I like topre but this is a retarded arguement, you bottom out on topre anyway even if it actuates halfway
>>52388695
This is true, but with most membranes you have to squish the keys down to actuate and its terrible
>>52388295
What's a good place to get Rosewill keycaps? Amazon?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00K8CDQLA/ref=psd_mlt_bc_B00K8CDQLA
>>52388802
All things considered, Newegg would probably be your best bet. IIRC, Newegg is the manufacturer of Rosewill, so I think they have the best prices. I haven't bought a set in a while, but they're decent caps if you need some last-minute. I had a pair break in the mail and couldn't wait on the replacement, ordered a cheap set from Newegg and had them at my door in less than 2 days.
>>52388342
I can't remember if the novatouch has a curved or straight plate, but they might be a pain if it's a curved/stepped plate, otherwise they'll be fine.
If you're uncertain, see if you can get a cheap set of DSA caps mailed to you and give it a shot. I haven't heard of any complaints regarding DSA profile height from people who have used them, but they're more-or-less made so that you can't get below them on a standard cherry setup.
>>52389070
Thanks man
Its got a straight plate, but I'm thinking of just cancelling, because one of the main factors of my descision to purchase was the resell/trade value, which I now see will be almost nothing
I hate cables, any good wireless mechanical under 400 dollars?
>>52389187
some random varmillo one
>>52388239
>meme keycaps
>that enter
>mixing profiles
>no plate
>>52388193
For some reason I'm not getting my emails...(I took a pic with my phone and emailed it to myself to open on my pc) but I'm not receiving it...will a fit milf do?
Posting my memeboard with cherrymx memes (clears) and memecaps
>>52389379
my god
![IMAG0401 [1154].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UvbbHh2.jpg "IMAG0401 [1154].jpg")
>>52388193
ooh found this one from bst post
>>52389406
don't you miss the function keys???
>>52389456
A little, but my if you flip a dip switch CAPS turns into a FN key and it makes hitting the function keys no big deal.
1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9/0/-/= become F1/F2/F3/etc
>>52389492
When i say they become the function keys, I mean when you're holding FN they're function keys, flipping the dipswitch only changes caps to FN.
>>52389523
fair enough if it works for you, I went to a tkl and was surprised how much I missed the numpad, particularly the enter key I used to tap a lot with my mouse thumb, I'm used to it now and love my ducky but I couldn't lose any more keys.
>>52389121
There's a benefit to buying caps like this (if you have the money to spare). You're able to have free caps every month. I could sell my set in May and make all of my money back, probably even make some cash. I normally buy a new set only a few times a year, but I've been buying them more frequently lately because of the resell/trade market. I can't remember how many people went in on the round 3 granite set, but it was over 5000 iirc, and the set still costs at least as much as it did initially.
This is mainly because people don't want to spend money on something they won't receive for months, so they figure they'll spend a few more bucks and buy it once it's been delivered.
I get what you're saying, you probably won't be able to make a quick profit off of these, but they definitely retain their value better than most keycaps. If Mat3o is being honest about not producing any more after this set, you'll certainly be able to sell them for the cost of purchase, at the bare minimum.
Less talk more keyboards
>>52389456
On my 60% I have space programmed to Fn. It's the easiest key to reach, and I can reach any key on the board with ease while holding it.
>>52389789
then what do you use for space ??
>>52389811
I think he uses some fn + something for that or the alts
but thats whayt I would think
where do you guys like to get your cords for keyboards? any places to recommend?
>>52390520
Don't buy a custom premium USB cable you unspeakable moron
>>52390520
Sleeve and coil your own cable if you want one, it's dirt easy.
>>52390767
Not the anon that asked about cables but I'm a noob anyways so I'll bite
Is there a reason for coiling them? Cord management? Aesthetic?
>>52390767
that looks like shit
>>52390832
It can be useful for cord management in some cases, but if it's a keyboard that you won't be moving around a lot, it's just for the aesthetics.
>>52390848
no u
>>52390890
It does look neat.
And what do you mean by sleeving them?
>>52390925
Stuff like this.
Everything you need for this is quite cheap (heat shrink and paracord). I'll have to order some on the weekend.
Having a soldering iron helps since chances are that you'll be taking your cable apart and putting it back together again so you can get the paracord over it.
>>52389811
I use space for space, but when I hold it down, it works as a function key. So if I need to use the arrow cluster quickly, I just use 'space' + I/J/K/L, if I need to change layers, I just do 'space' + (whatever layer I need to switch to, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, or 9). If I want to be quick about it and just go up a layer, it's 'space' + 'ctrl' + 'i' or 'k' for down.
There's a bunch more on my SpaceFN layer, but I also have a separate function key with entirely different functions, though SpaceFN's easily one of the best function commands I've found. I'm amazed more people don't use it
>>52391088
Which 60% do you have?
>>52389573
>and was surprised how much I missed the numpad, particularly the enter key I used to tap a lot with my mouse thumb
I'm glad I'm not the only one who misses that. I didn't do it often, but when I used to lean back and only use the mouse, it was nice to roll my hand over to hit 'enter' rather than having to move my hands to the keyboard. It's funny how these smaller boards work both ways like that. If you're working in a VI environment, you don't want to move your hands to the mouse, and when you're doing leisurely tasks, you don't want to touch the keyboard.
I picked up the MX Master recently to see if it was something I would like. I wanted to program the thumb-rest to 'enter', but ended up returning the mouse. I sort of want to buy it now that it's gone down in price, but just spent more than I should have on keycaps.
Should I buy the granite memecaps?
>>52390767
Christ, I can't stand seeing cables like yours. Either learn the final step in coiling a cable or don't coil it at all, that looks like utter crap. You're seriously like 20 seconds from having a tight, correctly wound coil, but you didn't finish it. Why the hell do people do that?
>>52391088
What if you want to hold space? You know, like typing a lot of spaces.
Saw these keycaps last thread. Are these custom or available somewhere? I saw similar ones on massdrop but a different color scheme
>>52391742
that's a 3D model, and also astonishingly ugly
>>52391909
Oh shit it is lmao. Everyone has their own opinions I guess
>>52391742
>glorious nippon flag on the keys
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>52392031
Character limit is too low to allow me to fully express my amusement in one post.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>52392031
>>52392052
faggot
>>52391742
Nope.
There was a groupbuy on massdrop, then a bunch of butthurt koreans appeared and assdrop censored the rusing sum flag. Then everybody boicoted the GB and it failed.
>>52392114
it was hilarious because a bunch of reddit gentlesirs got extremely upset about CENSORSHIP due to a private company choosing not to sell an unpopular product
>>52392114
RIP
Still doing these?
What's the best mechanical keyboard for typing? Or should I just buy a Model M?
>>52392215
Anything with Mx blues or a model m would be gr8
>>52391742
What's the point of the kana if they don't represent the input at all?
>>52392215
You should probably start out with a keyboard with Blues or Browns, and make a decision from there.
>>52392215
red or black for typing
>>52392240
>>52392256
>>52392285
>blue
>brown
>red
>black
Glad we could come to a consensus.
Also, I have reds on my keyboard right now and they're honestly shit for typing.
>>52392314
blue is good but clicky is a gimmick and gets old fast
brown is shit. shit is brown. browns are literally the worst switch
red and black are god tier, it spends on your stamina. black is good but too stiff for me, so I prefer the reds personally. tried 35gs for a while but they're too soft and weak upstroke
>>52392169
>>52391177
Sorry, been watching the state of the union. I have a GH60 for my 60%, but also a WhiteFox, Model M, and a Realforce 108UH HiPro. I replaced my GH60 with Zelio switches and use Gateron Brown sliders in my Cherry Clear switches on my WhiteFox
>>52391304
I use SpaceFN + N, but I rarely want to do that. I don't game, but if I did, I'd set a gaming layer on the board so space didn't lock. As it is now, space only activates when I release the key rather than depress it. It's something that hasn't given me even a single issue, and has easily been the best Fn button I've used.
>>52392169
No, I hate that crap, but god dammit do I love your choices. Neferpitou (sp?) was so damn cool as a villian. I use a WhiteFox rather than the Noppoo. I support the Gat Browns, but would replace them with Zelio Purps just for looks (same switch).
Just started rereading Hunter X Hunter. Forgot all about Shia Labeouf making an appearance. Such a brutal comic.
>>52392135
>unpopular product
The thing is, it wasnt popular with people that wouldnt buy it anyway. Koreans for sure wouldnt.
Then they censored a rusin sum flag on a weeaboo set, obviusly weaboos got upset.
>>52392559
>I support the Gat Browns, but would replace them with Zelio Purps just for looks (same switch)
Nope.avi
![Vortex Poker 3 - 14 [12.1.2016].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6FGkQjH.jpg "Vortex Poker 3 - 14 [12.1.2016].jpg")
I guess Poker has been posted here many times, but I'll still contribute. I just received mine and damn I like it. It was more of an impulse purchase at first but when I took it out and began using, I noticed it's MUCH better than my old CM XT, so I'm very happy I bought this. Also first time actually contributing here with a pic.
This is with browns, after making the purchase I began to think immediately damn I should've taken clears... But I'm completely okay with browns. Actually with PBT keys and metal backplate the typing feels a lot better than with the old keyboard, even if the switches are the same.
Also, I tried Kailh browns the first time when I saw one mech in local store. I can't even believe how much shittier they are than cherrys. I have always thought I'll just buy cherrys and nothing more, but damn, those chinese knock offs were terrible.
>>52389772
let me try that again
>>52392698
>Tfw filco cherry keycaps only work with filco boards
Life is pain
>>52392762
why?
are they like differently sized or something and dont fit other boards?
![Vortex Poker 3 - 9 [12.1.2016].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FPTGUUY.jpg "Vortex Poker 3 - 9 [12.1.2016].jpg")
>>52392688
I'll never go full-size again. It's so much nicer to have a more compact keyboard and more room around it. Now I get why you guys like these things so much.
I'll be also buying a custom cable from pexon whenever I get more money, so I can change this non-braided cable with some nice colored braided one.
And I think I meant to say keycaps and metal case in the original post, rather than keys and backplate... Well, just woke up.
>>52392762
but thats a KUL
>>52392780
They have these things called filco stabilisers attached to them
It makes them incompatible with standard length cherry stems
>>52389772
>>52392698
What's that chinese cartoon called again?
>>52392856
Baby, please kill me.
>>52392836
Well looks like I gotta find another kb to buy. Got any suggestions for tkl or reg size. (mx blue + black kb + red /no led)
>>52392836
>I'm literally retarded and don't know anything
They have Costar stabilizers, not filco and yes they do work with other keycaps.
>>52392867
Ok, but first you have to tell me the name of the cartoon
>>52392896
Assuming you aren't trolling that's the name of the Chinese cartoon
>>52392896
its kill me baby
![IMG_20160112_181537815[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1W7Q1kz.jpg "IMG_20160112_181537815[1].jpg")
I just picked up a 1391401 model m (pic related) but it came with a black cable instead of the beige ps/2 one. What kind of connector is this and can I get an adapter or do I need to get a ps/2 cable?
>>52392889
Filco sets have glued stab inserts tho. So, costar stabs only, not cherry.
It may be possible to pull the inserts out with some heat/steam, but the chance to break everything is there.
>>52392960
How old are you?
>>52392952
I was kidding
>>52389187
Filco Majestouch Convertible 2
Filco Minila Air
>>52392114
It didn't fail, it went through with something like 86 sets sold. It was way higher at one point, but they after the only interesting part was removed it spiked.
Also, the colors were ugly as fuck.
>mfw granite has been open a day and has over 2k sets already
It was pretty hilarious.
Does anyone know where I can find caps for gateron switches? Thank you all in advance
>>52392762
That is completely wrong though.
Also, did anyone else know Filco makes their own doubleshot HiPro set?
>>52392993
24
And nevermind I found out what I need.
>>52393101
Its not >>52392978
Also, filco high profile is made by signature plastics, same as SA.
>>52393080
Just search for Cherry MX keycaps since they literally share the same stem design. Make sure the caps you're getting match the layout of your board. The rest depends on budget, taste and location.
will there be a novatouch rgb soon
Thinking about getting a white one too someday.
>>52393183
Thank you for the information anon. I guess the second part will be the tricky part especially since I use a far less popular keyboard around here and far less in general as well. Time to search then
>>52392651
I have no idea what you just linked me, but if it has something to do with league of legends, I've never played and don't play games. If you're trying to say that I'm wrong, prove it. Zealios are lubed Ergo Clears or Gat Ergos.
How can u use 60%?
>>52392688
I'm pretty amazed that anybody used Kalih,, they had terrible reviews since day one. I'd highly recommend trying out a board with Gaterons, though, I've replaced all the Cherry switches with Gats on 3 of my boards
>>52392794
Also forgot to say grats in >>52393998. The Poker's solid in each variant, and the 3 has a killer case and great keycaps by default. If you need braided and coiled cables, I can give you the info of a guy who sells them for way better deals when compared to Pexon, and equal in quality, sometimes better. He's in the US though, so if you're outside it'll be expensive to ship. My last cable came out to $16, it had a 9ft coil (making it about 18", sleeved and techflex. He also has uncoiled but sleeved cables for much cheaper ($10-$14). He's on GeekHack and Reddit, I'll have to find his info so it'll take a sec, but lemme know if you need it.
>>52393998
What exactly made you make the switch over to gaterons? What sorta benefit are you getting from the switch over the cherry ones? I am just curious because it seems like gaterons just get tossed onto the cheaper switches and everyone seems to forget about them because of their cherry mx clone nature
>>52394098
>everyone seems to forget about them because of their cherry mx clone nature
Everyone who? Not anyone who's tried them, I assure you.
>>52394114
Fair enough. Which switches did you replace?
>>52394083
Thanks! And I live in EU, so shipping may cost me a bit... Although shipping from Pexon to my place costs around 15€ too, so I'm not sure how much there would be difference then. Your cable sounds pretty damn cheap for the fact it has a coil too. Coiling from Pexon costs a bit too much for me.
Yea, if you have his info I'd gladly take it. I could ask him about the shipping fees etc.
I was looking at Model M keyboards, but I really want something with a windows key. Are the Unicomp Model Ms any good? From what I understand they use the original Lexmark molds but cheaper materials?
>>52394338
i hear its that the molds are old and are affecting the boards
but i also hear that the boards are still great and worth a buy if you are into model ms
>>52394142
I didn't replace shit. That's some other guy.
>>52394363
If it's just the minor surface blemishes that I saw on some of the youtube reviews, I can live with that. As long as it doesn't affect the actual function.
how do clears compare to topre
>>52394394
i have never had one, only heard from people here but i hear that for the price its good build quality and a untouched ibm model m would be much more
but i would ask more people here about them, maybe check r/mk too they have a lot of good info too
>>52394418
Real model Ms in good shape aren't too expensive, but no windows/fn key is pretty annoying. I mostly use linux but it's useful for global mappings since ctrl/alt are used for lots of application-specific stuff.
So what's the difference between the Massdrop granite set and Pimp My Keyboard (http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-stock-sublimated-keycap-sets/)?
They're both Signature Plastics, both DSA, both dye sub and provided you stick with text symbols are the same.
>>52394752
It's not the same font nor the same colourway.
>>52394817
Nevermind, looks like you can get it in the same base colours as granite.
>>52394752
The sets and color options for keycaps and text are different. I'm fucking sad that I found this and saw there's no ISO set available from their site. It would be cheaper and I'd have more color options...
granite is ugly desu
its shaped weird
>>52394902
DSA best shape.
>>52394902
It's called DSA.
It is VERY nice on ortholinear layouts.
Not so sure about staggered to be honest. Ordered some from SP that shipped out on the second, but still haven't arrived.
Haha time for topre!
>>52394752
Wait, granite is PBT? I thought all DSA sets were ABS?
>>52395339
>room for 2-4 more keys that you'd expect on a real keyboard
>nah, just use the space for branding
>>52395442
>branding
Pretty much the only reason I haven't bought a topre board yet. Can't stand branding on my stuff.
>>52395379
It is PBT. No, not all the DSAs are ABS...
>>52395462
So the Leopold 660c, no branding. Great layout as well.
>>52395442
Fucking meme layout I swear. Also one of the reasons I personally dislike Realforce: branding on every single one of their boards.
>>52395442
They got rid of caps lock (which is now control) and that stupid context menu key.
Hardly a loss. (And caps lock is fn+tab if you must scream)
>>52389379
Does she get naked
>>52395592
>get rid of caps lock
Absolutely disgusting. Caps lock is a great key for remapping purposes.
>>52395551
I don't like the weird layout with the arrows and 2 random keys wandering off by themselves on the side
>>52395618
>remapping
Use autohotkey or something.
A key is just a key, you could remap H to ctrl+alt+f2 for all I care.
But control there makes MUCH more sense than caps.
>>52392960
That's an AT terminal, or a DIN5. It's easy to get a converter, or even convert it yourself to DIN6.
>>52393068
>>mfw granite has been open a day and has over 2k sets already
Same thing happened during the Round 3 drop, it ended up with around 7k sets at the end of the drop. Mat3o rearranged some of the keys so you're forced to buy more keycaps now, though, so I'm not sure how many people are going to buy this time. I'm better we'll end somewhere around ~4k
>>52395713
You remap it and now you're missing control. That's stupid.
>one of the biggest selling set of all time had 7k
>even if we assume only 1 out of 10 people owning a mech bought one, we get 70 000 people
>a small to medium european town in the whole world
We really are a small group, aren't we?
>>52395777
The hhkb has two windows buttons for fuck if i know reasons. I'm quite sure you can get one to be control.
granite memecaps finally show up on massdrop and it's 0.59 USD to the CAD
fug
>>52395808
So now you're going to start mapping stuff to the right side of the keyboard? A lot of users need access to a left control, alt, windows key, and remap caps lock to something like escape which is useful for tons of console applications and vim-based text editors.
>>52395843
I ain't doing shit.
It's you who's crying about muh remapping.
Please realize esc is just over tab so A LOT closer than on a tkl or full keyboard, no need to remap caps.
I love the hhkb layout as it is.
You have a problem with it? Fine
>>52393963
Don't do the shit in his pic you'll fuck up your hands
new lenovo laptop is gonna weigh 10 pounds (5kg) and have a mechanical keyboard.
dumping pics
cont. lenovo
look like a modern version of alps
pic 3
>>52396092
jesus thats shit
>>52396103
Looks like microswitches, or maybe even tact switches. That would be pretty cool.
>>52396163
yup looks like a msi gaming laptop or alienware.
lenovo is done for, thanks China
>>52396172
what ever happened to the retro they were making or whatever?
>>52396184
that is from the thinkpad line.
this one is the yoga/ideapad line.
iirc they are gonna make that retro thinkpad but judging by the surveys they did, the hardcore neckbeards are not gonna be happy
(16:9 and other "modern" options won)
>>52394098
Sorry, been taking ages to reply to these. The Gateron browns are smoother than the Cherry browns. Lots of people bitch in these boards about Cherry browns because they can be a bit rough on the inside, giving you more than just the tactile bump. Gateron browns are very smooth, and have a light tactile bump - they're also very consistent about being smooth. The Zealio switches that cost an arm and a leg are just modified Gateron browns.
>>52394174
You may as well order from Pexon if that's the case "/
It'll cost more to have them made in the US. The reason this guy sells cables is because it's a pain to order them from Pexon if you're here in the states. If you still want his info, his Reddit account is 90N1NE, and I'm pretty sure it's 90N1NE on GeekHack as well. His Reddit account will probably be easiest to contact him. Just look at his post history and you'll see the gallery of pre-made cables he already has made, plus he has an order form if you want something specific
>>52396241
Okay. Yea I thought it would be wiser to order from Pexon, since it's in EU. It's good that this guy does the same in US, though, so that people living in the states can have stuff more cheap.
Well, I'll take a look at his work at some point. Thanks for the info still.
>>52396219
You're right on the Cherry browns, they feel a bit rough on the inside, ie there's more to the push than just a smooth bump. At the moment I'm happy with these however. I'll still keep in mind that Gateron's aren't shit and I might try them at some point. Maybe a bit heavier than browns, since I've been thinking about MX Clears for some time.
>>52394855
The ISO in the Granite set aren't actually DSA. Because SP doesn't have a DSA ISO mould, they used the ISO cap from DCS. Basically, if you want an ISO cap, you just have to order a single from Pimpmykeyboard com, and order the regular set that he linked as well.
I've been considering backing out of the Granite drop and just buying the set from Pimpmykeyboard. Matt3o claims that he "realigned the legends" because he felt they were off-center - that's basically it. I have the full-text Granite set in my cart on MD right now, so unless I want to switch to the Symbol pack, it seems more beneficial to just order from PMK. I'll get it sooner, pay less, and won't have to deal with Massdrops shitty QA. I guarantee you something is going to go wrong with this drop and they'll ship sets with missing keys or misspelled characters.
Considering how much money they make off of us, you'd figure they would at least invest in a QA dept and customer service. They go radio-silent after a drop ends and stop replying to questions. It's so damn frustrating ordering from them sometimes.
>>52396315
Yea I have heard many people having problems with these drops. And since there are so many buyers I'd say too that there's certainly going to be some problems.
I know about that ISO Enter, that it isn't DSA. Shame. Luckily they have it in PMK's site still.
I've been considering Granite too, but don't want to make such a big investment and wait for so long and pray something doesn't go wrong etc etc. I'd just want DSA PBT keycaps with nordic ISO layout, but there's not many options out there...
I actually like Dolch a lot more than Granite, but you can't get Dolc in nordic ISO or if I remember correctly not ISO at all. Then there was one green tea set which I liked very much but that's also just ANSI.
It's suffering living in ISO country... I can't just switch to ANSI and be done with it, after all this typing with ISO layout.
>>52396286
A really popular mod for the Cherry clears is called ErgoClears, it's where you take Browns and replace them with the Clear stems. Supposedly it's much smoother.
When you do the same with Gateron (no need to use a clear), you just replace the spring with a heavier one (62g is my fav) and lube the stem. It ends up being one of the best feeling switches I've used. You can buy them separately without having to mod the switch yourself, they're called Zealio switches (purple), but they're pretty damn pricey, so I've only purchased one set. The Zealio switches are neat because they have a completely transparent housing on the switch. I don't use LEDs or anything, but it's something subtle you can notice from the side of a plate-mounted board. You can even modify the Zealio switch and put an LED inside the housing, rather than sticking it outside the housing like you would on a normal switch. With the transparent housing, it diffuses the light and spreads it evenly across the key, it's pretty neat. You can check them out here if you're interested, just note that they're expensive as hell for a full set. This is also the manufacturer of Gateron switches: https://zealpc.net/collections/switches/products/zealio
>>52396373
I'd be willing to bet you could switch to ANSI without many problems. I use both ISO and ANSI (don't ask), and while it took a while to adjust to the small differences on the ISO board, I managed to fully adjust within a few days - and I'm a pretty slow learner.
I've been wanting to buy a Cherry or Gateron profiled set with the same colour-scheme as Granite, but they're a real pain to find. The last set I found was from TaoBao. They're also having a group buy on MD and on GH for the Gateron caps, but MassDrop doesn't have Milk-White nor legends (they're all blanks), and GeekHack is slightly overpriced for the dye-sub kit.
Dear god, I really fucked up my formatting on >>52396440
>>52396483
Well, I believe I could get used to ANSI if I tried, but I just like ISO more myself. I'm pretty good at adjusting to new things.
Thanks for the info on Zealios. I have heard the name and have seen pictures but I didn't know much info about them. Sounds pretty good actually, so I might consider them at some point. It will be just hell of a job to solder them to my Poker, but at some point it's not an impossible idea. I'd enjoy trying smoother switches now that I think about it.
Seems all the Zealios have sold out, what a surprise... Anyway, I'll keep this in mind. And luckily you don't need to buy so many switches when you're using a 60% board. I would never pay for the amount full-sized keyboard needs...
>>52396613
>luckily you don't need to buy so many switches when you're using a 60% board. I would never pay for the amount full-sized keyboard needs
Couldn't agree more. No way I'm paying $100+ for switches alone.
You can often find people selling small packs on /r/mechmarket, but they sell them at an even higher cost.
Zeal also sells the 62g springs, so after having bought the Zealios and enjoying them, I decided to buy the springs and mod my gat browns into zealios myself. it was much cheaper and they feel so damn good.
>>52390767
I tried it on my Ducky's cable but i fucked it up.
It was probably too thick or something but it still werks though, except limply coiled
Is there an RGB TKL and optional RGB number pad add on out there anywhere? I play gayms so I can't opt for the 60% keyboard.
Currently looking at a Ducky Shine 5 because I can't find a good number pad out there that supports RGB.
>>52396219
Gaterons are smoother in general due to different plastic used for their stems
>>52396775
Somebody just sold (traded) a custom built RGB numpad on mechmarket, oddly he traded it for a ridiculously shitty set of 'unicorn vomit' (basically a bunch of mismatched keys from a crap-bag).
You can build your own RGB numpad for next to nothing, though. Get the case cut for free from Ponoko (free first order for new customers), you can even have the plate made in acrylic since it's such a small area to cover. Then just install switches and an ATmega16, buy some RGBs from adafruit, and you're good to go.
>>52396883
But how do I go about programming the RGB's though? Ideally I'd want it to match the customization of of the ducky shine 5 I'd be using.
>>52396206
The retropad is in development hell now because lelnovo can't find display panels for it
Logitech/ Das/Cougar / Coolermaster/ Steelseries
Which brand would you choose out of these if given the choice?
>>52391216
So what's this last step to coiling my cable that I've been missing?
>>52396972
CoolerMaster. To be specific get a Quickfire Rapid if those are your brands.
>>52395606
I have a couple other pics, 1 is full nude, cant post them here of course, got them from a thread on /b/, shes posted fairly often, the slut!
>>52396903
There are plenty of custom firmware options. I'm pretty sure TMK would work perfectly.
>>52397044
You twist the cable in the opposite direction. Most people do it with a drill for long cables, but you can do it by hand. It reverses the tension you created by wrapping it around the bar, and forces it to be 'springy' and tight. It's how they do them for both mass-produced and custom coils. You can find more info on Google and Youtube. it feels unintuitive at first, but you'll notice it's worked once you've finished.
>>52397166
Cheers, I'll take a look at that.
>>52395722
Just spliced it myself to an old mouse cable. Seems to work however some of the number pad keys take extra pressure to register.
>>52397194
Nice! I had my terminator kit stolen a few years ago, it was ~$400+ worth of equipment. I've been so salty about that ever since.
>Seems to work however some of the number pad keys take extra pressure to register.
I'm trying to imagine why that might be, was it shielded? You may need to use a connector with thicker wires. I figured you'd go for a USB connector then plug the USB into the converter. Also, the section you used shrink tubing on is pretty long. It could be that you didn't twist the wires properly or something.
Either way, if it works, nice job.
>>52396440
>transparent housing
Don't all gaterons and rgb cherrys have this too?
>>52396483
I want Granite SA.
Anyone here with MX greens?
How do they compare to blues? Do you just prefer being in constant pain when you type or is there some other reason?
>>52397406
Gaterons have a milky housing, it's more translucent than transparent.
Cherry does make some switches that are made for gaming companies called Cherry RGBs that have a transparent top and translucent bottom, but they're almost always Frankensteined from manufactured gaming keyboards.
There have been group-buys, but they're usually just transparent housing placed atop a regular Cherry switch. Plus you still deal with the defects of a Cherry switch, like the stem cross being too tight and snapping keycaps, or rough plastic that can make the downstroke of a key-press feel textured.
I just entered the memeclub and ordered a realforce 87u
as someone who types a lot I am happy
THEY'RE HERE!!!!
>>52397741
And they're ugly
>>52393963
Pic was not related. You can try if you want tho :^)
>>52396440
Gateron browns are not the same as Zealios. Gateron browns do have a bigger bump than cherry browns, but not as pronounced as cherry clears or zealios.
Proof? Gat. browns are 50g. If you put 50g springs on a Zealio or on a cherry clear, the slider will stick.
>>52397625
>How do they compare to blues?
Better than blues. More solid feeling.
>Do you just prefer being in constant pain when you type or is there some other reason?
Constant pain? lol wut
I have little girl fingers. My 45 kilo wife has manlier fingers thatn I do, yet I have no pain at all typing on greens. The heavier spring is not an issue. Anyone who says otherwise has either never used them or is doing something very wrong.
>>52397815
Do you recommend the CM Storm Quickfire TK with MX Greens as a good board then?
I was just joking about the fatigue.
>>52397741
what are you even going to do with those spacebars
>>52397827
I love buckling springs. I'd be using them now if i found a cheap SSK or bought a bigger desk. Greens come closest to BS in feel. Not the same by a long shot, but they,are stll nicest MX I have tried (tried pretty much everything but Zealios to be honest).
>Quickfire TK
Never used one. Pretty cool layout though. Similar to my Compact SQ.
>>52397827
>TK
>good
>>52397835
Use one to replace my abs spacebar, sell the other for mad jew profit
Is there any where you can order custom PBT singels? (colored, blanks are alright)
>>52397805
reread the part about the 62g springs. They're exactly the same stem as gat browns, save you choose springs in the 60s
>>52397967
Without recommending an alternative you've left me with nothing.
>>52398043
CODE TKL in greens
>>52398056
Okay thanks, I'll check that one out instead and compare.
>>52397966
What kind of a buckling spring keyboard are you using/which one would you recommend I take a look at?
Yes or nay?
>>52398013
Changing the springs does not make the stem be equal. If the stems are the same, why Zealios stick on a 50g spring, and a gateron brown does not?
Going to go with an mk disco TKL and start a project to build a numberpad on my own. Good idea? Also, hoping to major in computer engineering next year.
>>52398187
Im not really sure about greetech switches.
Everybody hated them when DAS started cheaping on their keyboards. Now, with MK Disco, nobody seem to care anymore.
Should I go with greens for my next keyboard if I find my current browns to be too soft and I want to try clicky?
Need a good keyboard with clears good for my gayymin what do you suggest /g/.
>>52398148
Zealios don't stick on a 50g spring, I've used mine on 45g springs without lube and had no issues. The reason you get the higher spring weight is because the lube slows down the return, so if you're typing fast it makes the keys sluggish. You can use a less viscous lube on even 50g springs without many issues, but it's best to use springs above 60g to keep the keys snappy and responsive.
>>52398244
CODE TKL in clears
>>52398243
If you really want to try out the clickyness go for greens. Otherwise you could try out mx clears they are heavier and more tactical. You could also try to get a used board with buckling springs to try it out. Also if your not sure I suggest getting a switch tester.
>>52398231
Hmm. Ill get some opinions on it and see if I can't find a way to maybe test them out. Possibly order a switch and test it.
>>52398243
Try out blues first because they're 5g heavier than browns.
>>52398292
Thanks friend
>>52398320
Does 5g make that much of a difference?
I find browns to be way too soft for my liking...
My typing is so hard I can't even not bottom out if I try.
>>52398342
>Does 5g make that much of a difference?
Not that much, but blues have a more distinct bump, while browns have a much subtler bump. Keyboards with blues are easy to find in stores, so try them out first before considering greens.
>>52397971
How much do pbt topre spacebars go for each
Am waiting for massdrop order
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXJzmky2DaI
Are you fucking kidding me?
THAT loud? I mean, I like loud but... holy shit.
Is there any place I can buy gateron greens?
>>52398072
I was using a unicomp. They ar epretty solid if you have the room and don't want something used.
What I'd like is a JIS Layout SSK.
Buckling Spring is flat out the best switch, unfortunately layouts for it are so limited it is worth getting others.
>>52398563
They don't exist.
You could buy Cherry MX Greens and Gateron blues and just switch the sliders and springs though.
But that way you are spending twice as much as you could be by buying just greens.
>>52398563
You want Zealio. 80g is a chore to type on, 65g is stiff enough
>>52397827
the case feels a little hollow n plasticy and the regular qfr feels more sturdy. not bad tho.
>>52398453
>How much do pbt topre spacebars go for each
10€ should be feasible.
>>52397815
it is just as much the pressure you are putting down on the spring as it is you.
>>52398781
holycrap that is amazing thanks this will make this realforce amazingly cheap if I sell these to hhkb nerds
>>52397166
>There are plenty of custom firmware options.
For RGB in-switch lighting? Name one.
No, TMK is not one.
>>52398689
You know Cherry actuation weights are not the same as Korean compression weights, right?
>>52398617
>They don't exist.
b-but
This is one big meme right? How do you all function with half a keyboard?
>>52398900
look on the front side of the caps.
>>52398900
It's not half
It's 60%
>>52398871
oh right forgot grams are different in korehurr
>>52398956
They are when you're not measuring the same thing.
>>52398909
>>52398948
Don't you miss the convenience of not fucking with the fn key?
And why HHKB? Why not Poker? Is this also a meme?
my board with gateron clears game
i underestimated just how light these switches are, especially coming from mx blue
its like typing on a cloud, just putting my finger on a key actuates it
so smooth though and it'll help my rsi a bit
>>52399015
>>Don't you miss the convenience of not fucking with the fn key?
it's much more convenient to have more desk space, to have arrows and shit alway under my fingers on the home row
I can also bring my keyboard with me since I travel a lot for business and laptop keyboards are terrible.
>And why HHKB? Why not Poker? Is this also a meme?
because superior topre, excellent caps, superior layour and perfect aesthetic.
Friendly reminder topre also has a superior cap profile, easier on the fingers.
>>52396103
>>52396111
looks like cherry ml
>>52396092
Then, what possibility is to see actual low-profile mechanical keyboard in near future? It's like the only thing I miss from my old rubberdome.
>>52399046
What I meant was, is Poker bad?
>>52399173
it's a good board.
I don't love its fn layout, which you already seem hesitant about it in general.
for comparison, this is the hhkb (fn) layout. (it also has switches to swap say alt and win and so on)
also there isn't a topre poker :^)
Greetings earthlings.
>>52398079
yes
>>52399372
ok thank you, gonna order it right now.
>>52397827
>>52397967
Personally, I think it's one of the best keyboards you can get for under $100.
>>52399201
I'm a little hesitant about my arrow keys and a small keyboard, though I'm considering just YOLO purchasing it just to see what's this craze about.
>>52399249
put something near it for scale (possibly not a shoe)
>>52399521
>>52399550
looks as stupid as that pochaco mouspad
How are these keycaps going to look irl? I want a set of thick PBTs, but not sure if the white is too stark. I wish they were offering milk in this round.
>>52399582
can someone id this for me?
>>52399608
I'll let you know
![20160113_093634[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wGPahQS.jpg "20160113_093634[1].jpg")
Got this in a yardsale for 5 dollars. Don't have an AT adapter so I can't tell if it works or is fully functional but every key sounds and feels like it does. Only thing is I don't know much about laser keyboards.
>>52399660
pop a cap open, pal
>>52399660
probably rubber dome from the look of it
>>52399608
There's a groupbuy for the same keys over on geekhack right now. I think I'm gonna cancel my light grey/dark grey order from MD and get a set of milks/dark grey from GH instead, even if they cost a bit extra.
![20160113_094625[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yngc1gi.jpg "20160113_094625[1].jpg")
>>52399671
>>52399674
>>52399703
bingooo!!!
put it on ebay for 110$ and buy yourself a good keyboard
>>52399716
Probably best to clean this thing first seeing how filthy it is, but not a bad idea. However I don't have a retro keyboard yet so its tempting just to hold onto it.
how would i get some aliens styled keycaps made?
>>52399738
dumpsin some more
>>52399746
looks like crap I hope you never manage to get them done.
![1_35_28_full[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fZ0XTIm.jpg "1_35_28_full[1].jpg")
>>52399746
>>52399738
>>52399746
You know what to do
Do it right or don't do it at all
