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Honest opinion edition.
>Buyer's Guide:
>http://pastebin.com/QJD7fSGU
>Where to Buy:
>http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
>FAQs:
>http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp
>Old thread: >>52125641
>>52147694
How much more tactile is a Novatouch compared to an MX Brown? An MX Clear?
What's the mouse quality RGB keyboard? I've used Cherry Reds, Browns, and Blues, and I like the Blues the most.
Should I get a Corsair Strafe RGB or a Ducky Shine 5?
whats a decent non-mech gaming keyboard with backlight for around 40-50 bucks?
>>52147825
Most*
>>52147838
>non-mech
do you know where you are?
>>52147838
Yes
Can you guys endorse using a ball mouse
>>52148161
Sure. Kensington slimblade or expert mouse seem to be the nicest you can get without getting some $200 or more industrial grade trackball.
>>52147838
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=445
>>52148161
CST Trackball so you can put a billiard ball in it
>>52148161
I do a lot of CAD/rendering stuff at work and I swear by ball mice. If you need super accurate cursor control and convenient hotkeys they are just better than regular mice.
>>52148161
Good when your space is restricted, like in labs.
>>52147718
More, a lot more.
>>52148161
>>52149077
I wouldn't though. The original ball is smoother.
Anyone who buys clacks or any artisan keycaps for more then the artisan charged is being used and is perpetuating a small cadre of thieves and speculators.
I'm afraid my neighbors (people who live in apartments behind the wall) would kill me if I start to use MX blue at night.
>>52149991
Put on o-rings. Once you remove the clacks, the clicks are (almost) inaudible past the first wall.
>>52149120
So it's a lot more tactile than a cherry MX clear?
>>52149022
Not liking colors and not liking shitty non-rgb leds that die in a month are two very different things.
>>52147718
It is the same feel as a rubber dome.
A good, 90s era rubber dome, but a rubber dome for sure.
Feels good, but I still prefer the clickiness of bs or green/blues.
i HAVE A uk ducky 2108s. will US keycaps fit this without me buying a different keyboard?
>>52150300
Different enters.
>>52150333
what if i keep my old enter key. i only need to buy the keys that are different.
>>52147694
Wtf is a mega oval keyboard and how is it any different than my 17 year old cigarette ash filled keyboard?
>>52150438
I don't know how I got mega oval out of mechanical
>>52150438
Stop smoking you faggot.
>>52150453
that isn't tobacco ash Anon, isn't it?
>>52150427
thanks. i checked the keys beside enter and i think i can do a conversion. by swapping them around my keyboard and ordering replacement keys for some of the rest.
>>52150453
smoking the reefer
>>52147825
Ducky
What does /g/ think of the logitech g710?
are there any good mech keyboards under 80?
>>52147694
What is that KKMoon?
>>52151112
>What does /g/ think of the logitech g710?
I think it has shit ton of useless buttons.
>K60 keyboard
>G502 mouse
I'm not changing these till they break
>>52151684
Same here except:
>Ergodox Keyboard
>M570 Mouse
Feels good to reach endgame.
I'm a programmer, what kind of keyboard should I use?
>>52151832
the one you like the most
>>52149111
I don't know what labs you mean, but the labs I have worked in all use regular mouse. And have enough space anyway.
>>52151832
Whatever you like most. For at home use I use a full keyboard because I actually frequently use my numpad. I also use my F-keys for gaming (specifically DotA), and my arrow keys quite often as well (for example WASD + arrow keys for Binding of Isaac).
For work I use a Topre 60% keyboard.
>>52151832
>I'm a programmer
You think it makes you special?
I bet you are PHP faggot.
>>52147694
Pok3r checking in
>>52151934
or web, amirite? xD
>>52150155
Hard to say whether Topres are more or less tactile than clears, it also depends on which weight of Topre you got.
A clear has a strong tactile bump that ends at the actuation point.
A Topre has a tactile bump that peaks at the actuation point and ends almost all the way down.
>>52149991
The trick is to put the keyboard on top of something soft so that noise won't transfer much. I used to use pic related at work (clears) and it was loud as fuck because even though clears aren't really noisy, the fact that the plate touches the desk made the desk act as a big speaker. I resorted to putting some cloth underneath it.
I can't decide between the hhkb and fc660c
>>52152246
660c
HHKB is a total meme layout.
No reason to not include buttons in the bottom corners when they had to split the top-right button due to not having enough physical buttons.
Why do keyset designers for SP keep churning out DSA and SA sets yet don't give a fuck about DCS? Both of those profiles are garbage and shouldn't be used on a modern keyboard.
>>52152305
been using a poker for a while now. I don't even remember what it is like to have arrows keys. Which is they only thing that is appealing to me about the fc660c.
who /codewasd/ here
>>52152396
Feels great to have it close to the home row like a laptop keyboard. Navigation cluster is also intuitively bound to FN+arrow keys.
>>52152365
Because SP is the only company that makes SA and DSA whereas DSC is barely different from run of the mill OEM profile.
>>52152473
who /should have bought a novatouch/ here
>>52152506
does it come with greens?
they can never take my greens from me
>>52152503
I'd buy both but I don't want to try and resell what I don't like on ebay. Maybe ill just think about it some more.
>>52152539
>Novatouch
>Cherry switches
>>52152539
Something even better anon.
>>52152504
But true designer-made keysets beyond simple color variations are hard to come by without paying exorbitantly for something like GMK. (SP's Gorton Modified is also my favorite font). It's absurd because GBs in 2012-2013 were full of great keysets that were all discontinued, and DCS Midnight sucks.
>>52152593
I hear you there. I finally got Soware and R4 Retro which both came out back in the day. Literally waited about 3 years combined for these. R4 Retro is from 7bit which took 2 fucking years to ship. I got lucky as fuck scoring the Soware set from the owner of Originitive on the r/mk classifieds. Then it got lost in the mail for 2 months.
If you keep camping classifieds, you will eventually get lucky and find what you want. Just stick with it. For me, the wait was worth it.
>>52152473
Right here my fellow African American
>>52152764
>3 years and money
>to decorate a poker
Wew lad
>>52152396
If you're used to the poker the funtion later arrow keys on the hhkb feel more comfortable, to me at least. If you found you really hated not having arrow keys obviously get the 660c. If you more or less likes the poker and want a similar thing with a nicer default layout and topre go for the hhkb.
Does the varmilo switch tester send numpad scancodes, or number row?
>>52153014
You ain't getting no cheap numpad, son
Stop trying to cheat the system.
>>52147838
Check out Redragon or Motospeed
>>52153034
fug
into the trash it goes
What is a nice tenkeyless that I can get with USD $125
>>52147718
I have a 55g Topre board and used to use Browns. The Topre board is MUCH more tactile, to the point that using it makes the Browns feel almost linear by comparison.
The Novatouch is 45g though, which I have not tried. Your results may vary.
Corsair k70 any good? my cm storm just died on me after almost 2 years of service due to me spilling large amounts of liquid on it.
>>52151195
Surprisingly, there's a killer deal going on for a KC60 on Massdrop. I just bought one. I have an old GH60 in parts around the place and loved it to death, the KC60's hopefully going to relight that old flame.
>>52147694
>Honest opinion edition.
Bought MX Browns and they are less tactile than rubber dome. Money wasted.
My Unicomp on a Human scale tray
Just feel for the model m meme. What to expect when it arrives? Currently on mx clears in an fc660m.
>>52153604
that thing is a waste
dont ever spill anything on it
it will destroy the entire board
>>52153604
got it on massdrop ?
>>52153639
I got the keyboard at unicomp's website, the tray came with the table setup
>>52152473
>no mx blue with uk layout
>small return key
>>52153609
It's a very nice click. It clicks before bottoming out. I haven't messed around with any other mx keys but the best way I'd describe it is like an arcade button. But more controlled and firm.
>>52153639
holy fucking shit. I was on Unicomp's site less than a year ago and it was an ugly mess, but the keyboards they had were solid and cheap. I just went on and they've changed everything to full-on keyboard enthusiast marketing.
They're selling the regular endurapro for 105 bucks! That thing was 70 months ago! Now they have a "Small batch, *Limited Editions!*" section full of GeekHack keys and some other nonsense. When did they realize their market potential?
That genuinely frustrates me. They were honestly the best place I could go when I had to change offices and resuit all of our keyboards. Everybody loved them, and they were a good deal. If I end up doing something like that again, I'll end up paying like crazy because it's a "niche market" now. God dammit.
>>52153703
>Now they have a "Small batch, *Limited Editions!*"
That's been there for years
They literally just redesigned the site, the content is exactly the same.
>>52153703
While price have gone up, they got their shit together production wise. I don't have any weird plastic discoloration on the case or any burred keycaps, so I can't complain.
>>52153609
The roar of 104 buckling-spring switches screaming at you in the dark.
I just got a blue switch keyboard and I can't wait to annoy the hell out of my roommate when he gets back from his vacation
Fuck yeah I got the refund for the novatouch I returned
>>52153609
i have that. my arrow up key is broken, but i feels good, also 1983 model M master race
>>52151934
Nope dude, cobol developer here. I work for a large bank.
>>52154025
The novatouch really has become the topre switchtester
>>52154218
>topre switchtester
that's exactly why I "bought" it :)
I honestly pity those who spend 20$ on those CM testers.
They don't give you the real feel of a whole board anyway, and 6-7 out of those 9 switches you aren't probably interested in to begin with.
>>52151684
K70 and G502 myself, feels good lad.
unicomp ssk when?
>>52147694
Topre realforce master race. Everything else I've tried feels inferior to it.
>order HHKB on monday from Japanese ebay seller
>tuesday by Japanese time
>shipping within 1-3 business days
>no shipping on Japanese holidays
>hasn't been shipped yet
>3rd business day would be tomorrow
>tomorrow is Japanese new year
>no shipping on the weekend
>tfw keyboard probably won't get shipped until monday
fuck
>>52153765
I guess that's a plus. I've only had one issue with a keyboard that had a broken stab on delivery. They were very fast to correct the problem and didn't leave me with one less keyboard while they shipped the new one. I was always a huge fan of their low prices, great customer service, and great build quality. It makes sense that their prices went up, I'm just bummed out I guess. Thankfully those things last forever and I doubt I'll need to replace one any time soon.
>>52154665
>tomorrow is Japanese new year
It's not just the Japanese New Year, you know.
>>52154834
Well, it's also new years here and all that jack. Or is there something else that I'm missing?
>>52154824
I'm not part of this conversation, but did I understand it right that you equipped your whole office with these?
Everyone in your office is using CLICK CLACK MOTHERFUCKER buckling springs?
Do alps blue even exist anymore or is the only way to get on buying used or building custom?
>>52154665
Hey m8 my tracker is still silent from 29th.
I bet the box is already here in customs and those lazy fucks can't be bothered to update it.
>>52154873
Correct! Though, it's a small office and there are mainly two employees per room; 11 people excluding myself. I needed to get new machines for the place, so I figured I'd get something almost guaranteed to last. I've heard positive reviews from multiple employees about how great they feel to type on. I'm sure somebody will get annoyed at some point, but they're at work, and if it really bothers them, they're welcome to grab an old keyboard from the supply room.
>be me today
>sign up for KC60 massdrop (clears)
>buy a CM Novatouch
how2stop addiction
>>52155544
By drawing a line somewhere.
>>52155544
NT next to normal rapid-i
looks like its exactly the same case etc
>>52147694
that is a tiny hand in that picture
tfw the only thing keeping me from buying a hhkb is color choice
Hello, I'm new here. Can I come in?
>>52149991
do you live in a carboard box
>>52151112
breaking keycaps is a common issue on that board
I just placed my order and got a set of $70 keycaps for free. Got kinda fucked on the shipping $40. But what the hell.
>>52156446
So you got the poker?
>>52156528
No. I didn't have enough money for the Pok3r and shipping. And I didn't feel comfortable paying so much money for a product that would be a pain in the ass to return if I didn't like it. So instead I went with this https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1506 and this keycap set https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1331
>>52156446
Good job you fucking jew!
>>52156601
Maybe I should've taken advantage of the $13 shipping instead........
>>52154996
I feel you italybro.
How long did they take to get back to you on the message you sent them regarding the customs stuff. I haven't heard anything from them in regards to that either.
I want a small keyboard I can use from the sofa for controlling my laptop when I connect it to the TV for watching/playing/whatever.
I've been looking for compact membrane keyboards but they seem very low-quality, and a mechanical one would be too heavy (to put it on my laps for example) and expensive.
What I'd want would be a decent-quality small membrane keyboard (so that it can be light) with at least 4-key rollover to play games comfortably. Any suggestions?
>>52157089
Get a HHKB and do the bluetooth mod.
>>52156783
Asked Saturday before ordering.
Got reply in 3-4 hours.
Ordered Sunday, they shipped Monday at 19 Osaka time so Monday morning (9 am) for us.
Then Monday night (half past midnight of Tuesday in Japan) it apparently left the country.
>>52157157
Damn. I hope they're just really busy and that they did not actually totally forget about me or something.
>>52157174
I read somewhere (maybe the description page) that they only ship on selected days of the week like Monday Wednesday and Friday, plus yeah I think new years eve plays a role.
I'd start to worry on Jan 4th if I were you.
>>52157266
Thanks. I'm not horribly worried yet, I'm just horribly impatient when waiting for a new toy to play with.
I have Cherry mx blues and when I press the key slow I can feel the tactile bump but when I type fast I can almost barely feel it but I can hear it.
Was I memed? Should I have gotten greens instead like how clears are better than Browns?
>>52151941
mmm
>>52157407
>Should I have gotten greens instead
You probably should have.
I went from browns to clears, and they are so much better. I didn't ever have the pleasure of trying greens on a full size keyboard, but I feel pretty much the same about greens and blues. Blues are just a weak mess compared to stiff, superior greens.
Hell, I would've gotten greens if it weren't for the fact that they are so horribly noisy. They feel so fucking crisp.
>>52157407
You should lose weight.
You probably have sausage fingers.
>>52153638
Then don't spill anything on it you clumsy fuck
>>52153638
I constantly have bottled water in my arms reach, drink beer and eat stuff every so often at my desk, and I have not once spilled something on any keyboard I've ever had.
I don't know how people manage to spill their stuff. Don't keep your drink right beside your keyboard and don't watch cat videos while you have something in your mouth.
im going to get this one
and you cant stop me
>>52156586
Isn't that keycap set like 20 bucks on Amazon?
>>52157621
Whose idea was it to make only those keys gray and to leave the out the rest of the gaymen cluster?
>>52153609
Greatest keyboard ever made. Enjoy :)
>>52157648
that's the MOBA cluster
QWER for spells
DF for summoner spells for league.
>>52157623
i dunno man did i get jewed?
I need a decent upgrade from a Logitech G15 V2. I like game keys for macro's and would like some decent white backlights (not sure about RGB and they are costly).
Recommendations?
>>52157761
k95 is a great gayman keyboard
>>52157648
they are changeable keycaps if you play MOBAS
or just put on WASD caps for your shootas
or just keep them black
>>52156586
Ugly blue. Look at this glorious GMK color.
I got a cherry mx brown k70 a couple days ago as my first mech. I thought it was gonna be great and feel awesome, but it's loud as fuck and my fingers get shocked after typing on it for a while. Is this a common thing? Are WASD blue o rings going to help with this at all? Honestly I'm thinking about switching back to rubber dome if this is consistent between all mech keyboards
>>52157845
Still don't have my set. :(
>>52157764
It's also expensive
>>52157872
Well you want fucking macro keys. That's the only one I can think of with a decnt number of them and mechanical.
>>52157797
wat
>>52157797
>but it's loud as fuck and my fingers get shocked after typing on it for a while
do you have sensitive ears? jesus christ blues are not even that loud. also your fingers getting shocked? do your keys even feel good? shocked as in electrical or shocked as in fatigue?
o-ring dampeners will help with the sound but will not remove it 100%
>>52158054
No, it's legit loud. My thinking is that since it has an aluminum outer casing, the keys clanging against it are causing vibrations that go straight to my finger when I bottom out and as well as additional "clang" noise. It's weird
>>52157735
Hard to say, you could get these from amazon for $35 and free shipping. No idea why Vortex caps would be $70
http://www.amazon.com/Vortex-White-Doubleshot-Keycaps-blue-infill/dp/B00XA71BQC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1451585574&sr=8-2&keywords=vortex+doubleshot+pbt
>>52158054
Yes, actually, they initially do feel pretty nice to type on. But after a while it gets annoying and my fingers get numb from the vibration of the key hitting metal
>>52158123
That's what you get for getting browns, but try not to bottom out. And get some o-rings if you have to, but don't get them from WASD unless you're a goy.
>>52158176
WASD are the only people who carry the type of o-rings I want it seems
>>52158224
No, they're not. You have ebay, amazon, and massdrop.
>>52154884
New ones aren't being produced.
>>52158123
That's pretty bizarre, I'd try and get a replacement and see how you like it. You could also try a linear switch and see if it's more to your liking. I use Gateron Browns and Cherry Clears, but have used Cherry Browns and never had any real problems, and I type throughout maybe 70% of my day.
You could try swapping your springs for something lighter, but it sounds like the tactile bump is too rough for you? The actuation force is lighter than what you'll find on most regular keyboards, though, so it's hard to say what the problem is.
You may just be bottoming out when you're typing, and if that's the case, you need to adjust your typing habits. When you're more proficient with the keyboard, you'll practically be removing your finger form the key before you complete the tactile bump, and you won't be hitting the bottom of the keyboard nor will you hear much of any sound.
>>52158662
I do bottom out, I really like doing it but it seems I'm not really supposed to?
>>52157621
This would be perfect if it had an iso layout and white leds
>>52158718
You're not "supposed to" do anything. Just type however you like.
Just ordered a Func KB-460 for £37.
This whole mech kb thing better not be a meme, /g/
>>52158790
If he's hurting himself doing it, he should stop. I didn't mean to make it sound like there's a "right" way to type, but constantly bottoming out defeats the purpose of getting tactile keys, and if it's bothering him enough to describe it as getting shocked, it doesn't sound like he's enjoying it much.
>>52158718
If you enjoy bottoming out, you could try getting MX Blues. They're still bottoming out when you type, but your fingers won't be. The issue you're dealing with is that you're slamming your fingers into a solid piece of metal with nothing to absorb the shock. Even with large o-rings, you'll still have issues with your fingers cramping quickly and fatigue.
It's a bit weird to adjust from pressing the key down fully to releasing before bottoming out, but you'll get used to it quickly I'm sure. Once you do get used to it, it feels almost akin to playing an instrument and there's a lot more flow to your type. It's definitely a weird adjustment though. It's worth trying the o-rings, but you'll probably want to start releasing the key earlier if you can.
(If you're gaming, it's normal to bottom out often, and o-rings are going to help there tremendously)
>>52159109
>but constantly bottoming out defeats the purpose of getting tactile keys
That's nonsense.
>it's bothering him enough to describe it as getting shocked, it doesn't sound like he's enjoying it much.
He should just get a heavier switch.
>>52159109
Really appreciate the input, I've been searching for an answer but I couldn't find one anywhere. So now I seem to have 2 options, keep the board for a while and try o rings with it (yes, I will be gaming a lot), or try a mx blue to see if I like that any better
>>52159151
Plan on going to bestbuy to see if they have greens, blues, or reds can test around with
>>52159382
I can't imagine you'd find a board at BB with greens.
You don't have any other electronics stores in your area? I hear there's a store called Fry's in the States that might have a better selection.
>>52159422
Yea, same. Well they do, but I don't have them in my state. RIP
Guy who postet here about his new G710+ is back
I worked with it now for about a week and the feel is just great, love the sound of the Brown Switches
Its just great
10/10 would recommend, but only if you can get it for about 60$, everything above is in my opinion a little bit too much
But i love the media keys and all that, feels just great
>>52147694
Considering pulling the trigger on the ergodox ez
How difficult is it to get the regular ergodox with clears and how difficult is it to solder the switches. I'm not hurting for a new keyboard but not having to solder the switches is appealing and I dont know if I'll be able to get another chance at it preassembled.
>>52156446
>complains about being +30 Romania bucks instead of NOT getting a 70 Romania bucks keycap set
Can you be more of a faggot?
You already fucked any future One orderers.
So now that it's 2016 in all civilized parts of the world.
DUCKY SHINE 6 WHEN
>>52162689
march
>>52162732
really? How'd you know?
happy new year!
>>52162765
I can't even process this.
>>52162752
lol he's probably bullshitting
>>52162689
april
>>52149077
Is this the mechanical one or the laser/optical one?
>>52148908
What are your thoughts on the Orbit or Logitech thumbball as a way to try out the concept
>>52162795
>/mkg
>asking about mice
Happy 2016 the year or the hhkb!
Got my planck assembled, really need to find a nice keycap set for it though.
>>52163088
Forgot pic
>>52163106
You missed the Enter key.
>>52163106
Woa looks worse than a poker
Also nice 2015 pic faggot
>>52163106
I'm gonna ask something stupid and this is probably a commonly known thing. But how area you supposed to quote or use brackets? Are they set to be one of the black keys?
>>52163204
Yes
>>52163154
>>52163204
It has layout layers that you can configure
https://github.com/jackhumbert/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboard/planck
Who /needs to practice/ here.
http://zty.pe/
>>52163634
>Game uses way too much CPU and 1.5GB of RAM
What?
>>52163160
Eat my butt
>>52163824
What? I just played it and Furryfox is only using 500MB of RAM.
>>52163634
Nice, I'm getting a keyboard with blank caps soon and playing this in the dark with the backlighting turned off made me confident that I won't have any kind of problem.
Except for the symbols on top of the numbers and the function layers, but that's a different matter.
>>52163941
>soon
Not so soon, swissbro ;)
Can't wait to get back home and use my 87U.
Typing on this chicklet shit has been murder
>>52164001
Soon anon, soon.
Hope yours arrives soon. I'll be expecting lots of beautiful pictures.
>>52163634
Is it just my shitty pc making the game go slow or is the game too easy?
>>52164125
> I'll be expecting lots of beautiful pictures.
Well i cant say i lack the equipment :)
>>52160831
Has no one bothered with ergodox here?
>>52164196
one guy that complains about RSI nonstop,and SWUR 2 GURD magically fixed all his skeletal problems
>>52164215
Thats nice I suppose. I was more interested in how difficult it is to solder the switches than it magically improving my FPS and removing RSI
>>52164138
I think it's supposed to go faster each level but those exploding letters end up lagging it
>>52164168
Nice.
I've got a DSLR that I barely ever use. Are there any kind of resources you can recommend for getting into photography?
>>52162795
I'd avoid the thumbball. It's less accurate and can put weird strain on your wrist.
The Kensington Orbit's a solid choice to try the concept. I still have one that I use every once and a while and it's pretty comfortable.
I know that there are people who enjoy the thumbball styled mice, but personally I just can't get used to it.
>>52164375
Go shoot things
2009 Blackwidow Blue (Hated the clacky shit) -> 2011 Das Ultimate Browns
Got paid for a side job today and I'm willing to spend up to $300 USD. What's the hottest shit right now? Maybe one of those ergonomic split keyboards? Are there backlit versions?
>>52164474
Korean customs.
>>52163634
Pretty easy so far. Made tons of mistakes and still made it to fifteen on first go.
>>52164375
>Are there any kind of resources you can recommend for getting into photography?
Itafag here
This video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwk3YFknyNA
>>52164474
Like the other anon said, korean customs are quite dank. But you're hardly going to get one within a budget of 300 bucks.
Maybe if you're lucky and there's some kind of group buy.
You could get a Topre. Those come to almost 300 bucks if you count in shipping and import tax (in most cases, depending on what you're getting and where your getting it from you may have the luck of getting a sweet deal on the last two things).
>>52164483
tfw no nip leopold kb
>why live
>>52164504
Cheers.
I love visual design. Especially when it's applied to something else (such as keyboards).
>>52164237
Not sure why it would be difficult to solder. There aren't any small components and you aren't doing any smd soldering. You should have no problem even if it's your first time.
>>52164483
What's so special about them?
Looks like your regular old mech with color caps
>>52164514
Don't topre feel like rubber domes
>>52163634
I think I broke it
>>52164474
Have you considered building your own? I just finished ordering my parts, and it's a lot less expensive than I expected. You can order a custom plate for less than 50, you can get 3 plates for around 80 (meaning two top plates and a bottom, two tops in case you made a mistake in your margins), and that's more-or-less the most expensive part, less the keycaps. The Teensy is 20 bucks, diodes are ~5 bucks, switches are 30-60 bucks, you can order custom cut acrylic for your case for next to nothing, or just use spacers between your top and bottom plates, and the rest is negligible (wires, solder, isolation rubber, rubber feet, etc.)
If you have some weird layout you've been designing, just be sure to have the keys you need first. The problem I ran into was ordering my top plate to be cut before I found the odd-sized keys that I needed. $300 should be within your margin of error for a custom made keyboard, plus it's a fun experience.
>>52164575
>Don't topre feel like rubber domes
No.
They feel like your fingers are having sex.
>What's so special about them?
Go look at some google image results of gons keyboards and you'll see all the dank shit that people have. I don't think that you'll find a whole lot of "regular old mechs" that look like that.
>>52152039
What are these keycaps and where can I buy them?
>>52164737
Look like caps from the round 5 (or one of the previous ones) groupbuys run by signature plastics.
>>52162765
Holy fuck
I'd use that
>>52163634
This shit is really addictive. And probably a great learning tool, it combines learning with fun and score-chasing.
>>52164770
but I specifically want the ones with those symbols/colors
How can I get them?
>>52164872
Buy them off the guy that posted them.
Or check the round 5 leftovers. Or ask in the geekhack classifieds, I don't know, I'm not that deep into this shit yet.
>>52164399
I have a fingertip (that new elecom thing) and I just can't get as accurate as I can on my M570.
I dunno if it is because if different sensors or what, I jusr can't use a fingertip all that well.
>>52164514
Compact SQ group buy.
Korean Kustom board (with an especially dank layout) for only $140 (minus switches).
I lost, but I think I won :^)
>>52165083
HACKER!
>>52164483
post yfw the escape keycap cost more than the whole keyboard.
>>52165606
wait, what?
>>52164474
If you want RGB LED get a ducky shine 5
>>52165083
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>52164700
They are literal rubberdomes with pointlesss spare peices on it.
Any mechinistfags that will take custom keycap orders?
>>52153609
Mine is fucking awesome coming from laptop keyboards for the last six years. There is nothing like it, MX switches don't compare. My MX switch tester and cousin's MX Red keyboard were nice, but they feel like high end consumer electronics whereas the M feels like precision engineered industrial equipment. That's about as good as I can describe it without being a fanboy.
Also, when you type on them, people seldom come to your office asking for you because they get scared.
>>52165687
Memecaps will coast you.
>>52165743
Did you ever use a topre keyboard?
I don't care what I'm typing on if it feels like my fingers are having sex.
>>52165835
What's really weird about this is how there's not a single mention of the word 'beer' in the title of this auction. I mean, what?
>>52165868
Beer isn't the only yellow fluid found at the Oktoberfest.
>>52165841
Why would I?
Its a glorifed rubberdome.
Ill just grab my old rubberdome thats like 15 years old if i wanted to go back.Not spend 500 for a rubberdome
>>52165900
Because it doesn't feel like your 15 bucks rubberdome.
>>52165914
how?
I've seen the switch.It's just junk on top of a rubberdome.I cant see in any aspect how that feels better then a normal rubberdome
>>52165956
Consider the fact that the material something is made of will change the characteristics of said object.
Gateron switches feel different from cherry switches since they use a different housing for the switch. Various rubber dome keyboards feel different since they use different rubber of different thickness.
I don't think that you are able to judge how a switch will feel just by looking at a diagram of it.
Can I be part of the Korean StarCraft master race?
>>52165977
plastic
v
plastic
v
plastic
v
coil
rubberdome
?????????
>>52166007
Does this mean that ABS is the same as PBT?
>>52154284
>K70 and G502
>Thought I was gucci.
>LEDs start failing one by one on k70
fml
>>52166007
>>52166011
If you guys are talking about rubberdome vs topre, I think he means that PBT+Spring is different from a variety of other plastics WITHOUT a spring.
or something.
>>52165993
looks to new. You need more key wear and some duct tape from the airport man handling your bag from went you flew to MLG events.
>>52166011
No amount of thick plastic is going to change the fact that at the bottom,is a rubberdome.
PBT on other machines,is still just plastic,but you're comparing grapes and cherries.
>>52166110
>but you're comparing grapes and cherrie
I could say the same thing about comparing regular rubber dome switches to topre.
>>52166119
>>52166110
Guys
er, Guy
The plastic used in the rubberdome for topre is much more resilient than your piece of shit dell in a box keyboard. Also spring
I dont even own a topre keyboard and I understand this.
>>52166119
What is at the bottom of the switch before the pcb?
A rubberdome.
>>52166169
What's it that cherry switches are made of apart from the spring? Plastic.
Just like topre switches.
>>52166186
And whats above the the pcb on a cherry mx switch?
>>52165606
>he thinks that board costs less than the keycap
You seriously underestimate korean customs.
>>52166205
more plastic?
>>52166211
I thought a complete Gon was like ~$550. I'm not familiar with the specific brand of keyboard in the pic.
>>52166528
GONs and Winleyless boards are "cheap" korean customs ranging from $250-550. Full milled aluminum boards like LZ and OTZ are in the $600-1200 range. There are a few more brands that fall in between these price points as well.
>>52166166
It is similar to the first gen rubber domes which were actually good.
>660C soon gonna arrive
Now all I need are custom key caps :^)
Fucking hell this is dank.
>>52147694
gay
It seems like in every keyboard hobbyist discussion, I hear something along the lines of "Topre is god's gift to us".
But very rarely do I hear actual comparisons between Cherry MX switches. I have Cherry MX Blue switches, I love them. I tried Reds and disliked them. Browns are in the middle for me.
To those of you who have both a cherry keyboard and a topre keyboard, could you just give me some genuine opinions and thoughts on the two?
I wish I had a way of testing out a Topre but I can't without buying an entirely new keyboard.
>>52167686
>To those of you who have both a cherry keyboard and a topre keyboard
I am pretty sure there isnt a single Topre user who doesnt have a Cherry MX board. You dont start with a keyboard for $250+.
>>52167739
I suppose that's true. I just find it odd how I can't find any legitimately good comparisons of Topre to a popular Cherry switch online.
>>52162765
Do you actually own this thing? What's the learning curve on it like?
>>52167762
They are very different.
>>52167762
Because they arent comparable. Its like comparing a car to a motorcycle. Both get you from A to B but they also feel vastly different. Topres are hybrid switches that have everything from being tactile, to being soft and responsive. Its particularly hard to compare them to Cherry because Cherry switches all do something different. Topres basically have as little resistance as reds, but arent linear. They are tactile, yet not even remotely as tactile as blues and so on.
The switch has a shit ton of things that can be found in Cherry switches, but none actually reflect what Topres are. So the conclusion would basically be that a Topre feels like a combination of all Cherry switches. Now thats a conclusion that wont help anyone, thats why no one states it.
>>52167762
>>52167817
Also, just because I like force graphs:
https://geek
hack.org/index.php?topic=52708.msg1544395#msg1544395
How well does the macro programming work on Ducky Shine 5? I have to type a lot of repetitive shit at my work but my IT department won't let me install any software so macro playback has to be hardware based. I have a corsair M95 mouse and it's fucking incredible for running shit in excel (I programmed it at home). I used to have K95 but macros won't work without Corsair's shitware running in the background. I also learned that Asus Strix keyboard has on board macro storage but no one ever talks about that board. What are my other options? I gotta have a numpad.
>>52163634
First try, feels good
The big ships that shoot out waves of single letters are fucking irritating to deal with though
Where can I buy a high end (don't care for cost) keyboard with Cherry MX Green or Blue switches?
Customs are okay.
So I got my first mechanical keyboard the other day from monoprice ( http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=114&cp_id=11401&cs_id=1140102&p_id=13785&seq=1&format=2 )
So I have no real experience with any other keyboards but I have used a wide range of garbo ones. Typing on this is a dream compared to the keyboard I had before. Strangely enough gaming felt slightly more accurate on the membrane keyboard for FPS to me but maybe I am just not yet used to the nature of the switches since I have been using membrane for pretty much most of life. Also the enter key is weird to me so I gotta get used to that but so far, I am loving my first entry in the MK world
>>52168511
>google "Cherry MX Green keyboard"
>first result
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=48
please try harder ty
>>52168712
haha, thanks for doing the work for me, sucka!
>tfw new Strix mechanical k/b
Just ordered Majestouch 2, hope I wasn't meme'd too hard with this whole >mechanical keyboards are the best shit ever thing
>>52169258
Rebranded cherry 3.0 board. The only difference is actually made the keyboard worse by removing the keys on the top right for that ugly logo.
>>52169303
Well spotted, I put that sticker there myself, there never was any keys there
>>52169327
>there never was any keys there
Huh, I didn't realize there were different versions of the 3.0 board.
All the ones I've seen had those media keys in the top right.
>>52169349
oh sorry this is a 2.0 version ,thats probably why
>>52169303
>>52169349
>>52169352
>cherry 3.0
that fucking usb port. why is their build quality so low these days.
Is there any scientific evidence of which switches produce the least amount of reverb on the steelplate? I'd take a guess and say MX-red?
>>52169801
Board and desk play a much major role than the difference between switches.
Also get an hhkb
are there any keyboards with arrow keys (also pgup pgdn) without the F row?
>>52170307
leopold.
pgup down home end are fn+arrows.
Where the hell do you guys buy keycaps for ISO/DE layouts?
>>52170506
grocery stores, mostly.
>>52170539
nice wood.
>>52163941
my game freezes at lvl 3 for some reason :(
>>52151195
Yeah, but a god tier mech for $100 versus an entry-level one at $80 or less seems like an obvious choice.
I did start with a cheap mech. I do not regret it. I didn't suffer during those years, however I'm really fucking happy with my Pok3r.
>>52163634
Becomes a bit impossible at this point
Would be nice if it had some other stats like key per minute or something
>>52170973
how did you guys get past that bigger ship on lvl 3? when i shoot it down, my game freezes?!!?!?!??!
>>52170987
Try running it on something other than a potato
>>52170995
>Try running it on something other than a potato
i don't think you need a fucking supercomputer for this.
>bought from MechanicalKeyboards
>forgot to ask for them to declare a small price on the package
am i fucked? Will I have to pay like $30 vat?
>>52171034
>r3kt skrub
nah m80 you will be fine, unless you bought some overpriced placebo keyboard.
>>52171129
$150 package.
>>52171133
you will be fine i think, i ordered a WASD v2 to sweden
>1400 SEK is limit
>they estimate my keyboards cost to be: 1223 SEK
phew
My ducky shine 3 broke just after a year (no idea why). What's good non led keyboard come with cherry brown?
>>52156158
I have this keyboard for years and how people broke them is beyond me.
Also I wouldn't call it common, if you google you find like all of 5 people with this issue and I've never heard of it on this board. Then again I'm never in these threads.
It's a new years miracle!
>>52165606
>>52165687
>>52165835
OTD boards tend to go for more than 600USD. FYI
>>52171386
W-welcome to the waiting club, lad
#refreshingjapanpostwebsiteevry4minutes
>>52171564
Depending on the country, the Japan Post site may not update after it leaves Japan. It only does so on like half the things I send to America.
Plug the tracking number into the receiving countries postal service site and see if it is different.
>>52171201
Filco majestouch 2 :---{}
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00UBQZKFS
What's wrong with this keyboard?
>>52172034
too many keys, for starters.
>>52157621
non-standard bottom row senpai, don't do it
>>52172034
literally nothing. rosewill is a newegg brand. they're barely making any profit on those.
>>52167549
>dank
>>52163634
I played an older version of this, this one seems to run a lot smoother
as always it gets pretty tricky near the end
it's usually the individual letters everywhere that get me. I end up using my raw speed to type every word I see rather than looking at what's going to hit me next, and that starts to matter more when the letters are spraying everywhere past level 10
https://twitter.com/daskeyboard/status/682624092218855424
lol
>tfw I keep losing in ztype because it thought I was trying to type a different word and by the time I realize it wants me to finish that word I didn't start on purpose I'm already surrounded
would be nice if you could change targets like typing of the dead and also if they'd show all on screen words in a list on the side so you aren't fucked when they start to cover each other
>>52163634
Got partway through a word then fucked up and wasn't able to finish it because the letter I was at was covered by another ship so I kept trying to start from the wrong part of the word
>>52172177
cool, thanks
I kind of just bought the best board for my price range I could find on Amazon with minimal knowledge of mechanical keyboards and no research.
Board gets here monday.
>>52172503
good job m8. i hope you enjoy it. if you don't just return it and get some other switches.
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