Jesus christ this fucking company.
How many times does Steam need to be compromised for Reddit to stop sucking Valve's dicks 24/7?
>>52054339
Well it's a good thing I abandoned my steam account a while ago.
>>52054339
What's so bad about valve? It's a tough job managing 120 million people's games.
>>52054384
>It's a tough job
for you
Damn, I just checked /v/ and they are shitting themselves right now.
>>52054384
And 120 million people's bank accounts. :^)
>find security issue in Steam 2 years ago where you can make purchases on a Steam account without verification if the user has PayPal or Credit Card info saved
>this means all someone has to do is get another user's session to be able to make purchases on paypal or creditcard
>report it to Valve's head of engineering
>they fix it a few months later by making people sign in again before finishing a purchase
>now this happens, active sessions getting assigned to random people
>tfw I literally saved millions of steam users from having their paypal and CCs emptied by reporting a vulnerability I found 2 years ago.
You're welcome guys
You didn't listen.
>>52054440
should have sold it at the black market.
>>52054440
Thanks for being a bro anon.
>>52054440
thanks man
>someone at Valve right now: "Sessions? What the fuck are sessions?!?"
>>52054501
>mfw people in charge of store-security are also in charge of creating hat-models
>>52054518
I'm going to laugh my ass off if OAuth is somehow behind this
valve has been caught TWICE collecting your internet history, and both times the drones went back to sucking their dick within a week
>>52054570
Yeah, but Credit Card companies tend not to be so forgiving. Valve's rates may have just went up after today.
>>52054359
same here. Fuck this company can't die fast enough
>>52054339
I expect gaben got pulled out of the executive xmas party.
>Mr.Newell, we have a problem.
>Cut to dramatic shot of Valve 1 over the skys of seattle.
>Defcon 2 in effect.
>the site hasn't been taken down yet
This is epic level incompetence at this point
>>52054622
It has here.
Pretty much everything is down.
>>52054622
yeah it has
steamstat.us
>>52054440
you should not have reported it, instead, you should have bought stock in corn farming companies and waited for something like this to happen kek
fuck, this could've been a major happening
>>52054622
down for me
>>52054642
>>52054643
>>52054655
Ah, never mind, looks like they finally took it down. Still, this issue has been occurring for hours. Pretty bad on their part.
>>52054651
Corn farming companies?
So is this a caching issue?
>>52054671
sure. How a company this big can fuck up so hard is beyond me.
>>52054679
monsanto?
>>52054440
On mobile atm but here's a snippet of the email I sent to Valve back then.
>>52054687
Nah, valve cleaning house.
Gabe has decided to up sticks and move to Mars.
>>52054696
>ubuntu bypasses steam guard entirely
TOP
KEK
Jesus Valve
>>52054604
Monopolies are the hardest to kill
>>52054570
Well why else would they force that shitty chromelike browser on every user? That thing does not even have tabs.
NO FUCKING TABS IN 2015
>>52054704
He'd never get out of earth's gravitational pull
>>52054720
I desperately want Steam, Apple, and MS dead in my lifetime.
>>52054742
Tesla for me
>>52054704
Up steaks you mean
>>52054755
But why?
>>52054742
>I dont like microsoft
>>52054779
It's the Apple of cars
>>52054742
I want you dead in my lifetime.
>>52054440
thanks anon, you're the realest of the niggas
>>52054797
But they aren't even that big. All the major car manufacturers are planning to kill Tesla whenever they release their own electric cars.
>>52054359
can i have it :DDD
>>52054789
DESIGNATED
>>52054821
It's the Apple of cars in the sense that they release shit that has been on the market for quite some time and pretend that they invented it, and the normies lap it up. "Autopilot" has been around for years - a 2016 civic can now do the same shit a Tesla can do as far as autonomous driving.
And they're way overpriced. Just like Apple.
This is what people get for supporting the quasi-monopoly of DRM madness.
>>52054440
thanks man
good job
>>52054862
Don't worry I was planning on giving wind10 a chnace for killer instinct and used other drm clients like playfire.
>>52054679
for pop corn
>>52054852
>And they're way overpriced
They're selling those cars at a loss, actually.
Yeah, the Elon Musk personality cult can get irritating, but the company is making major car makers finally take electric cars seriously out of fear of getting left behind.
AS WE SPEAK, THE STORE IS PARTLY BACK UP
>Be valve
>Server bugs out and compromises literally everybody including admins, allowing unfettered access to every user on the site
>Do nothing for over two hours
What the fuck. They should have pulled the power within five minutes of this happening, instead they're just fucking around and writing "haha its nbd senpai" on the forums. I guess they know that all of their drones will go back to sucking their dick within a day after this is all over
REPORTING LIVE FROM THE SEATTLE/BELLEVUE AREA
>>52054789
>Being a MS shill in almost the year 2015 + 1
>>52054937
They're overpriced for what you get compared to a gasoline car. They're 50k cars in terms of styling and features being sold as $80k+. Now, electric is the reason for that, but personally I don't give enough of a shit about electric cars to be willing to pay $30k as a tax to feel good about myself.
WE'RE JUST GETTING REPORTS IN NOW, OF A
COLOSSAL
FUCK UP
AT VALVE CORP
Is the safest way to close steam? Cause I ain't using that.
>>52055006
Just don't do anything. The fuckup is in the caching, so if you don't open any personal info page it cannot get cached.
>>52054339
whats going on? I don't use steam or anything. Only needed that shit to activate civ 5 a few months ago. Am I fucked?
>>52054978
Poor guy
>>52054978
Oh shit lol
>>52055036
If you didn't use steam at all in the past day you're fine.
>>52054978
does google hold on to their cached pages? they could easily be superior to the wayback machine if they made all of it publicly available
Free Half Life 3 for everyone.
>>52055036
no. dont touch steam and you will be fine.
>>52055060
Google is a botnet so they probably do but don't make it public
>>52054687
yea
>>52054944
The 2 people that manage servers and databases had a holiday break.
>>52055053
>>52055068
good, but what's going on tho. Steam servers compromised?
>>52054961
They do a lot of shit but also fix it regulary.
>>52054975
Yeah, you're not. Most people aren't.
But the ones who are, are funding R&D that benefits everyone.
>>52055083
Jon is a good boy. A very good boy.
>>52055095
No it's just a caching error that shows you random cached pages that you shouldn't be able to see.
>>52055101
Well....not the chinese mining the metal needed for the batteries...
>>52055095
cache servers fucked up and cached pages they shouldn't. Which means if you didn't visit the steam store your sites are not cached.
>>52054440
Thanks for saving our asses, based anon.
>>52055026
What if no page loads at all? Am I fucked?
I wanted to go to one of those pages but it never loaded. I'm fucked, right?
>>52055114
stop referencing that fucking twitter page which is in no way related to valve
>>52055091
>break
>on the biggest days for valves moneymaking drm
>>52054944
Valve's entire business model is about automation. Their ultimate goal is to sit back and do literally nothing as money rolls in.
That's why their support system is automated, why they automated the way games get added to Steam, why they outsource all of their development costs to their community, etc.
They're a billion dollar company and only have 300 employees.
>>52055151
>wwe
I don't feel bad for this faggot at all
THIS IS THE FUTURE YOU CHOSE
IT COULD HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT
>>52055143
Everyone visted the steamstore though for the daily 3 free steamcards.
>>52055151
FUCK OFF
>>52054409
Now what's the next step of your master plan?!
>>52055143
So if I vistied the store earlier today am I fucked? I don't have my credit or paypal info saved, and I didn't buy anything.
What exactly has been cached and how can it be accessed by potential attackers?
>>52055190
I didn't because I don't give a fuck about stupid shit designed to try and get me to spend more money on more stupid shit (aka valve's cards)
>>52054440
I only ever used steam game cards and never saved any personal information on my account.
You shouldn't have done anything and taught the idiots who save their personal data online a lesson.
You're a huge faggot
>>52055218
> I don't have my credit or paypal info saved, and I didn't buy anything.
Then I guess you don't have to worry. As far as we know at the moment, you can't actually do anything while being "logged in" in another account.
>>52055226
Someone offered me a few pennies for some of my steam cards yesterday, I didn't even know what the fuck he was taking about.
What the fuck is with people and virtual items?
>>52055226
>not selling cards for free gaben fun bucks to buy cheap indie games
>>52055265
You can get themes and badges with them!
>>52055265
I don't know, but whenever you get cards you can turn around and sell them for Steam funny-money credits to other suckers. If you've been getting the cards for the sale from the beginning you'd have $1 in credit from selling them for $0.10 each. I've bought entire $60 games off the cards and drops from games. It's like a fun consumer rewards system.
Valve teaching the manchildren to stop playing vidya the hard way, gotta respect that.
![2000px-Gog-logo-2014.svg[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/iW6df5X.png "2000px-Gog-logo-2014.svg[1].png")
>>52055188
Fuck you, GOG.com is where it's at.
>>52054424
>Associating your bank account/credit card to steam.
>not buying steam cards at a gas station.
>and if you're really paranoid, not paying cash for said card.
>not buying just enough steam fun money to pay for "shower with your dad sim" and leaving your fun money balance under $1.
>sacrificing security for convenience
>Get when mad when spooky shit happens.
Same goes for Xbox live and ps network.
>>52055338
You can play pc games withiut steam, you know.
>>52055351
I would kinda like this meme but sadly I hate it because none of you unskilled kids have any idea how to make a decent shoop these days.
![richard-stallman-600x450_2-100487109-primary-idge[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/hRkWJSn.jpg "richard-stallman-600x450_2-100487109-primary-idge[1].jpg")
this is what you get for using non-free software
>>52055391
I'm shit at editing and used gimp, sorry senpai
I used to use Steam three years ago, I'm not sure if they have my credit card info saved but I did buy with my CC back then.
Am I fucked?
>>52054440
>>52054696
Back on my computer.
Here's the full email of the report I sent before. The highlighted portion is the main thing that Valve fixed after my report as you now have to sign in again before completing a transaction.
So if your steam session is stolen, your funds should still be safe as the attacker does not have your password.
>>52055395
STEAM, aka the
BOTNET
O
T
N
E
T
You deserve it, fat STEAM(TM) users.
You deserve it all...
>>52055408
if you didn't visit the site today you're fine
>>52055373
Valvedrones don't know that. They think there's nothing wrong with online DRM and trusting some incompetent fucks with your personal info.
>>52055399
>used gimp
it would have looked like shit regardless of your skill level
>>52054339
This has happened every year for the past few years.
It's quite fucking stupid that their cache setup hasn't been fixed in all this time.
>>52055373
>Request for a game to be released outside of Steam/Origin as DRM-free
>Every fucking time, without fail, "just install steam! DRM is fine, nothing has ever gone wrong before!"
>mfw those faggots get their credit cards put up for grabs now
Hopefully this generates some more interest in drm-free gaming. Fuck valve.
>>52055433
Nah, I last used Steam 3 years ago.
Thanks anon.
>>52055361
I just buy cheap game serials from cdkeys.com or something then add them to steam.
>>52055361
>>Associating your bank account/credit card to steam.
TOTALLY THIS
Steam users are cucks, especially so the ones running Lincuck.
>>52055408
They have your cc info and always will (see Ashley Madison) should be ok if you haven't logged in today
>>52054339
>This kills the Linux desktop
>>52055460
Your cc probably expired anyway
can someone TL;DR what's going on?
>>52055436
Are you advocating piracy?
>>52055447
>This has happened every year for the past few years.
Except it did not.
>>52055433
I only played a few games but no shopping. I am ok, right?
>>52055358
>GOG.com
even ps4 has more games
>>52055492
See >>52055460 I should be fine.
>>52055498
True, didn't even think of that.
>>52055448
The thing is that most games on steam are drm free to play but you have 0 ways of getting it other than through their bloated drm browser.
>>52055358
They were compromised as well, dude.
>>52055494
I hope so. I don't want my GNU infested with the average computer user.
It's absolutely fucking nothing you retards
>>52055427
Did you get any further response? Did they refund those games you brought?
>>52055503
Caching server at Valve were damaged and you could look into other profiles randomly. But you couldn't purchase stuff, some people believed that their accounts were compromised because of a bank statement, but banks don't always work that fast.
>>52055506
I'm advocating against online DRM.
Piracy is not the only alternative.
GoG seems to work, last time I checked.
I'm so glad I never fell for the PC gaming meme.
All I play are old console games and I never have to deal with shit like day one patches, and season passes and on-disc DLC.
>b-b-but muh competitive shooter games
Shooters have stagnated and have not improved gameplay wise since the release of COD4 back in 2007.
>>52054440
>>52054696
>>52055427
God bless you.
ffs they should *have* rewarded you for that.
>>52055533
That's why I request it, usually.
Theres LITERALLY no reason for a game to only be on steam unless it depends on it for multiplayer or something else. If it's single player there's no excuse. And even if Valve wasn't incompetent and DRM really was nbd, fuck having to get and play games through their bloated client.
Steam = cuckoldery plain and simple
>>52055582
But muh competitive shooter games.
CSGO is literally the only reason I still have this piece of shit installed.
>>52055577
99% games on the GOG are abandonware and indies.
Steam got so big and popular for a reason. I do share the sentiment against DRM, but it's either DRM or no vidya.
>0€ PayPal balance
>3.40€ bank balance
What are they gonna do, laugh at me?
>>52055562
Nah they didn't, I just ended up trading the games away for TF2 keys so I could trade the keys for games in the future.
>>52055582
>All I play are old console games and I never have to deal with shit like day one patches, and season passes and on-disc DLC.
>>52055631
Nothing. They don't have direct access to your account.
>>52054975
Wind energy was shit 30 years ago too, now it's cheaper than coal.
>>52055621
My point about GoG is that it seems to be making profit, otherwise they wouldn't be in business.
So DRM is not the only way.
>>52055645
That pretty shitty for such a large company.
>>52055621
Oh no, I can't play Call of Duty GOTY Turbo HD Remix MLG Edition
You don't want to play games, you just want to suck corporate cock.
>>52055689
Ye, it found a niche and exploited it. It's false equivalence.
Look like it's now over. I hope that provide a statement.
>>52054339
Well I just got a new credit card and steam doesn't have it yet. I don't really give a fuck.
>>52055716
>checks store to get the new AoE2 HD expansion
>Everything is in pounds (should be in CLP)
>whatevs.jpg
>everything is in Turk or some shit
>wow who is this guy and why is his account on my PC
>concerned.gif
>shuts down Steam
>Inmediately checks /v/ bc those fags will know for sure if something massively wrong is going on with Steam
>ohshit.webm
I was finishing my purchase when everything went bananas. Credit card details were saved. Bank only informs cc transactions 48hr after done.
FUCK YOU GABEN YOU HALFLIFE3-LESS TURD
>>52055689
What he's saying (I think) is that GOG's business model isn't seen as being viable by larger devs because the games on GOG aren't as in-demand as the AAA summer releases like CoD etc. Whoever owns the rights to AVP 2000 probably doesn't really care much if people are pirating the game, so releasing it on GOG DRM free just means they are going to make money at little to no cost to them.
Smalltime studios producing games can really only benefit from going DRM free as well, since it's just important for them to sell their game at all so they can build a reputation and fund their next project.
This kind of shit is why I refuse to work on systems that deal with people's money.
When it breaks you're fucked.
>>52054440
You're an honest person. Shame that the jews were benefitted because of your good action.
>>52055597
Even shitty kid's games like Roblox reward you for finding exploits. Sure it's a hat, but Roblox is basically Lego TF2.
>>52054501
it's like hats for browser cookies
>>52054742
>not mentioning google
fuck off, shill
Jesus christ, the past few months Steam has been asking you for all kind of security shit, even for a phone number recently and every time you made a fucking transaction on the market it asked you for a code that they sent you to your email. Now all the information is avaiable. Epic Valvle, simpley epic.
>>52055777
>AoE2
you need to have a total hack. You deserve it.
hahahhaahahahahaahahahahahahahaahaha
>>52054440
>active sessions getting assigned to random people
This is wrong. It was a caching issue, nobody was ever actually logged into another account. Trying to actually interact with the account you got always resulted in an error iirc.
While you did do the right thing back then, it didn't really affect anything in this situation.
>>52055778
Yeah, I get that. But we can only speculate how a DRM-free market would work.
I assume most people don't buy shit on Steam because it can't be pirated (all the single player games can), but because it's convenient and popular.
And frankly kids nowadays are even less tech savvy and probably don't even know how to torrent (TPB being blocked in some places doesn't help).
tl;dr, they'd buy DRM free games as well. Maybe not 100% as much as on Steam, but pretty close.
>>52055843
Really? I was reading /v/ and some people reported making modifications to accounts. Ofc they could've just been trolling but yea.
What scares me is how people are already jumping to Valve's defense, how people have become so desensitized to being fucking money to corporations.
It's disgusting, really.
>>52055817
>tfw roblox is total garbage now
>>52055869
They probably were. Some guy posted a screenshot of a $2000 purchase and you can't even spend that much at once (steam wallet limit is $200)
>>52055213
Crashing PSN and XBL
>>52055358
gog is also drm tied to your account.
and now they have a installable client just like steam, just a matter of time till it's mandatory...
>>52055872
No one is jumping to Valve's defense. You are making shit up to push your narrative and feel smart.
>>52055872
An honest mistake is easy to forgive. It will be fixed and we will move on.
>>52055839
Wow dude, this is a 18+ only site.
I don't understand why DRM is still a thing when there have only been a handful of cases where a game was not cracked and available for piracy within a few hours the past 15 years.
Perhaps by not adding it publishers fear that they are making it legally okay to distribute copies?
>>52055911
I'm really not, go to /v/ (lol) and you'll see the damage control by some posters in all of the Steam threads.
Valve didn't shutdown everything soon enough. Time to move to Origin
>>52054339
There's too many silly TF2 and Gabe memes for them to turn their back. Also doesn't help they have like 300 games they never play due to Steam sales.
Someone had to leave the comfyness of their home during christmas to attend to the servers
This could be you /g/
>>52055926
Piracy is frowned upon by a lot more people nowadays.
>>52055858
>And frankly kids nowadays are even less tech savvy and probably don't even know how to torrent
Kek, history repeats itself, back in the year 2000 situation was very similar. Emule p2p, private ftp, existed but it was some kind of magic. Not many people knew about it, others were scared and most were happily buying overpriced music/games cds.
>>52056011
It's highly unlikely they would actually need to be in the Valve datacenter. The guy working on this is most likely sitting next to his Christmas tree drinking eggnog while contemplating what he's going to do after being fired for losing Valve eight figures in sales on Christmas day.
>>52055933
Even on /r/steam people are livid. You're cherrypicking.
>>52054789
But I like being a slut!
>>52055926
DRM still stops pirates from enjoying the multiplayer element of the game in most cases. It's especially effective with consoles, since having a hacked console means you get banned from all online services.
>>52055358
LONG LIVE CDPR
>>52056017
There are still dvds and software that isn't encrypted or DRM infested.
/g/ - muh gaming
>>52055907
>gog is also drm tied to your account.
It's an online shop.
You pay up, which unlocks the "download" button.
When clicked, it starts downloading the installer of your game you purchased, which then you burn into a CD/DVD and literally can go hide innawoods with it.
>>52056182
DRM is technology
>>52056182
/g/ - don't talk about security if it's even slightly video game related go to >>>/v/ faggot gaymur
>>52054424
there's a reason why I still buy gift cards only.
none of my friends understand that though.
>>52056182
Told all of you but you didn't want to listen
>lol fuck off freetard
>muh anime desktop
>games are technology
>windows is technology as well
It's the future you all deserved
>>52056120
hacking a console shouldn't be ban worthy. It's my console, I bought it I should be able to do what I like with it.
Same deal for everything.
>>52056182
>implying most people working on something related to technology don't play games
>implying hacked database of a million dollars company isn't related to /g/
>imfuckingplying
>>52056196
can you resell it?
>>52056217
you didn't read any EULA yet.
You do not own any of these shitty tools.
You can operate them, but MS and pther jews can change the ways you use them any jewish time they want.
Read the EULA, Goy
>>52056249
Jokes on you, I use GNU/Linux Trisquel.
>>52056249
JUST
>>52056263
well freesoftware'd here
>>52056248
Technically speaking, nothing would stop you from doing this.
GOG's installers aren't tried to your account and don't ask you to enter a license key during/after the install.
Legally and morally it's a different story.
Can someone explain to me what Valve actually fucked up on? All I know is it had something to do with caches.
>>52054755
Nikolai Tesla is already dead you fucking idiot
>>52056249
I never accepted their EULA . In fact i wrote my own EULA that states they are perpetually my slaves the moment they become aware of my existence.
Just as legally binding as any EULA
>>52056299
They trusted GANOO/Linux instead of Windows Server.
>>52055872
Valvedrones are mentally ill
>>52056248
iirc the actual installers you get don't ask you of any credentials.
How bad do you have to fuck up to have a cache error show random accounts to people, bypassing mobile auth?
>>52056248
I don't see why wouldn't you.
You burn your installer to a CD, delete it from your harddrive, promise yourself to never play this game and find the idiot who will pay for it then why not?
Reddit is retarded. Why are you surprised? 99% of their images are hosted on imgur, which is one of the shittiest and most insecure sites I've ever seen.
>>52055872
it's mostly because the reports of people being compromised are mostly bullshit. how people take shitposting seriously is beyond me but i'm sure a good portion of /g/ actually believes microsoft records your keystrokes. you don't know how fucking retarded you come off when you take shitposts as facts.
>>52056387
reddit is synonymous with 4chan and twitter now.
>>52056106
Yeah, they can post angry comments but guess what in a week's time they're going to be back to their "praise geben" cocksucking of valve and acting like nothing ever happened. Anybody who uses Steam after this incident is a VALVEKEK (as if they weren't before)
>>52056407
I am screencapping the best posts in this thread and I'll post them to r/4chan later
Steam's a sinking ship. Tried to get into hardware and couldn't have failed harder.
Failure after failure has occured, and all because Newell was a greedy fuck. Now without the financial advisor that made them so successful the company is moving into the downhill stage, and bound for collapse.
If Valve had a nanogram of integrity they would shut Steam down immediately until they can assess and correct the error.
This is what you get for trusting proprietary software with security.
>>52056422
How big is your pen- I mean, Karma?
>>52056435
What would be bad is if MS bought them out and then pushed the crap into Windows and Xbox hard.
They'll cut off Apple and Linux systems by saying "Switch to Windows 11 today to access the full features of games X"
>>52056440
yeah because open source software have no bugs, and if they do they are found immediately. just like heartbleed, bash bug, and the grub bug were found immediately after release and were patched soon after
oh, right
>>52056462
~9k comment karma
~2k link karma
>>52056490
You can't expect every bug to be found immediately. But the code is there to be studied. You rely on MS, Apple, Steam, etc. to solve your problem in the case of proprietary software.
Don't even ask about BIOS updates for old computers.
>>52054789
>I like microsoft
Maybe HL3 will be needed to make amends
>>52056490
NONE of those were zero days. NONE of them were swept under the rug. They had patches before the announcement, not after the bug was exploited in the wild.
This is a zero day and Valve is doing damage control rather than taking the service offline and fixing it.
>>52055395
and for using free software, we get nothing. we deserve nothing.
y da world be like dis mane
>>52054440
>>52056555
trips confirm hl3
about time
Don't you mean /v/? Not that there's any difference. Both have a love for proprietary dicking and DRM.
About 4 hours into this and still no official statement by Valve.
Gaymers on suicide watch.
>>52056841
>about Valve's time
Fix'd.
>>52055678
>lying on the internet
Reddit is sucking Valve's cock? Most comments I see relating to Valve are complaining about their horrible company structure and customer support.
>>52055131
>Conventional cars grow from the soil during organic GMO-free farming
>>52056217
By the same token, it's their online service and they should be able to do what they like with it.
>>52057069
Most comments NOW are like that. Within a day they'll be back to sucking Valve's dick.
Just like a few months ago with imgur. There were HUGE security problems and a few comment threads were full of people calling out imgur for being a piece of shit, but people promptly forgot about it.
>>52054651
>>52054916
real fucking corny
I've finally changed all my passwords
and I'm still worried
I've 1 credit card and one debit card
that I used to purchase stuff on my main account but most of the time I used BPI bank deposits (paying with cash) and steam gift cards
But the thing is, I live outside the US; steam allows the usage of non-international credit cards
I had 1 international MasterCard that I used for purchases back in 2012 when steam didn't support anything but US cards I left the data saved for the sake of convenience
In 2014-5 I started paying with my (national) debit card since steam started supporting payments thought a well know service in my country (that needs no accounts like paypal)
everytime steam redirected me to the service's dedicated payment website and bam everything was done with no problems and no data was saved on my steam account (no auto filling data)
there's a long time since I don't see my international credit card info auto-filled whenever I slide trough the payment options
so, should I even bother?
>>52057080
The point is the additional damage of making the batteries is greater than the benefit of improved fuel efficiency. But really the best thing to do is not buy a new car.
>>52057080
T mining and processing of the materials needed for a normal are far less harmful, consume less energy, and are cheaper, thought.
>>52056930
Only mouthbreathers ever called themself gamer.
Also I just played advenure island I got for free on gog. Really fun game.
>>52057218
Or like when Bethesda partnered with Valve to sell mods for Skyrim. For a day reddit was calling Gabe the Anti-Christ. Now it's all water under the bridge.
>>52057245
Incorrect. Best thing is to buy a van, modify it s you can sleep, eat, and have fun in it and then get a yearly subscription to a gym.
Reduce consumption of everything and a ton of money saved. I managed to go to college without taking debt or asking money from my parents this way.
http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/458604254431795721/
Kek.
I remember installing the steam desktop client for the first time this year on windows 7. The thing was like a fucking virus. Locked up my whole system at random on first boot, even the internet stopped working. The only fix was logging off or a hard shutdown. How hard is it to hire a good programmer to fix your shit when you are that popular
>>52057218
No, I mean most comments in general. Not just today. /r/steam, /r/globaloffensive, /r/gaming (to name a few) comments are generally anti-Valve.
>>52057199
It's my dvd I should be able to do with it as I please.
>>52057322
Jesus christ stop using bread as pc.
My favorite part about all of this is that Valve has still not said anything to their customers about it.
>>52057434
Valve are the type of company who if all of their users CC details and addresses get leaked, they would make an announcement 3 weeks later with huge amounts of damage control and give a free copy of L4D2 to anyone effected
>>52057415
We're living in the era of the Internet of Things m8.
>>52057322
Most steamfags use gamer shit PC's and ayylienware so they don't notice all the performance problems and memory leaks. And of course there are idiots like >>52057415 who have to use the "just get a better pc!" cop-out to justify shitty programming
>>52056440
It's almost alarming that they haven't shut it down
>>52057301
What a bunch of ass lickers.
>>52057461
>and give a free copy of L4D2 to anyone effected
But I don't want valves shitty cut german version. All this regionlocking is making me mad why the fuck do we need that on pc.
>>52057461
This is pretty true considering I somehow have a copy of L4D2 in my account that Valve apparently gave me for free. I still haven't played L4D1 though and only play games sequentially, so I'd have preferred they gave me that for whatever reason they gave me it.
>>52057501
Dude seriously I know steam client is shit but those described symptomps are way over the line of what is valves fault and what is your russians lol machines fault.
>>52057517
DRM is the reason. It's control
>>52054339
Everyone sucks Valve's cocks desu
>>52057590
Considering I don't have Steam installed and exclusively use free and open source software, no, I don't.
>>52057590
>>52057590
Uh no, only mental midgets who still play childrens games past the age 13
>>52054339
Who the fuck cares about reddit?
>>52057634
There's a lot of those these days then.
