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>>52007153
![Kro-Craft-Speaker-Rev_B-ViewSet_01[3].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/VhqO5xo.jpg "Kro-Craft-Speaker-Rev B-ViewSet 01[3]")
1st for best speakers under $100
>>52020298
Post measurements
>>52020298
literally reddit: the speakers
I'm addicted to trap
>>52020298
Confirmed no maymay. Power hungry as fuck though.
The stereo imaging on these are fantastic, but needs to be pointed directly at your head, thats why I have that weird foam
>>52020298
>>52020415
Please post measurements or no one will take you seriously.
>>52020387
>being a furfag
>>>/trash/
>>52020387
>furry
>trap
you know suicide exists right
>>52020428
They're very underrated, but every single review of them says they're amazing value. This one even says they compete with things in the €200-€250 range:
http://www.tnt-audio.com/casse/scythe_krocraft_e.html
>>52020539
Why would I want to die when soundcloud is so full of good shit?
>>52020564
>subjective review
Complete trash.
Why spend so much friends :') Im getting the same sound for 15 bucks
>Budget
150 €
>Location
Bulgaria
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Going to get used for hours so a bit comfy won't hurt
>Preferred music
Hip-Hop
>Past headphones
AKG k375
![1024x768-QH85-Black-main2-nobackground[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/aoTsyaF.png "1024x768-QH85-Black-main2-nobackground[1]")
>>52020635
Spent €40 on these.
>>52020671
bait
>>52020706
do you even QH-85
>>52020640
Ath m50
>Buy pair of used X2's for $140 off Amazon
>No glued earpads, made by WOOX
>Sound great and in great condition
>Tfw didn't get meme'd and got a great price
>>52020929
Good for you. I'm going to send back my pair of X2 to Amazon soon, because it has glued earpads and it sounds as congested and unnatural as a closed headphone. Maybe someone will pick it up and say it sounds great :)
a good pair of headphones and a nice monitor is the only way i can get as close as possible to making anime real.
>>52021044
>Anime
>Miku
Okay
>>52020732
wat? Its pretty decent for a small 4' speaker and really doesn't lack a lot of bass if you boost it (doesn't distort due to the nice special port). Also who the fuck doesn't own a subwoofer?
>>52021167
first of all, an image doesnt have to imply thats what youre talking about, i never said "like my image shows of an anime girl, i want her to be real specifically." to me, its just a girl wearing headphones
secondly she actually does have some anime, sorry you failed nerd. at least you tried to be a nerd
>>52021223
Why not buying a good headphone, whose setup ks hassle-free compared to a speaker and which allows you to hear every frequency clearly?
>Budget
$30-$100
>Location
US
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-Sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Med
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy
>Preferred music
Static X, Fear Factory
>Past headphones
Sony PULSE Elite, Razer Kraken(Current)
I'm seeking wireless gaming headset with good bass, the Sony PULSE had (what I felt) strong bass an held tight to me
(a plus I as I do get up an walk about the house an don't want them to slip off)
Currenting using Kraken(wired) the bass is not enough an it lets outside noise in more than the Sony PULSE.
>>52021290
AKG K518
>>52021290
>wireless
>gaming
>headset
>30-100$
>us
>closed
>pc
>full-sized
>bassy
pick 1
>>52021288
Because speakers have the advantage of not sounding inside your head
>>52021313
i can easily pick closed full sized bassy 30-100 us from pc shut the fuck up you nigger nig
anyway the other guy is a nigger too though. stupid nigger
>>52021315
You make it sound like it's a bad thing
>>52020387
Good taste.
>>52021315
You could have just bought good speakers senpai. 58hz is shameful.
>>52021273
Mekakushitty isn't Miku, [spoiler]nerd[/spoiler].
longest wait ever. upgrading from TF10 IEM
>>52021288
I have Fidelio X2s for when I can't listen to my speakers or I play competetively. Also music and sounds has a lot bigger impact with a good speaker setup. Some of us are not just interested in headphones only.
>>52021338
Shameful? Wtf, best rated cheap home speakers are Pioneer SP-BS22-LR adn they have 55hz, what are you on about? Salty you couldn't buy these?
>>52021313
Bassy I guess, I've all but gave up on finding something to replace my old pair.
>>52021347
>Used in ears
>>52021408
>pulling the salty card
No my setup goes down to 40 hz. There's room flucations of course, but it's quite audible. 58hz is way too high, and you'll be missing out on a lot of notes.
>>52020962
Is this a problem specific to new, Amazon sourced X2's? When I look at the most recent reviews on Amazon most of them are about bad QC and glued ear pads.
>>52021347
>he paid 649.00 united states of america federal bank notes for used in ears
>shures nonetheless
>>52021347
You should re-evaluate your life decisions.
>>52021490
I'm just gonna play the "it's only 50 bucks" card here. Besides, the rest of the range sounds quite good.
>>52021530
I guess that's fair, but you'd probably be better off saving a few hundred for a good pair of studio monitors imo.
>>52021446
>>52021497
i plan to use my own earbud tips though. I read the reviews on amazon and headfi, they said SE846 is the best in the price range and I don't want to go with CIEM route
>>52021565
being the best in the price range of diminishing returns central isn't very assuring
>>52021565
>head-fi said
Well, then you must be right.
>>52021565
>I read the reviews on amazon and headfi
See >>52021525
>>52021563
80$ total for cheap amp and Kro Crafts or 300$ for studio monitors which has slightly better bass
Well sure blew my argument to pieces.
But whatever, I use these as part of a 5.1 system so whatever.
>>52021563
I'm using them as desk speakers here, and they're doing a pretty great job. I don't really have a lot of money to spend so these meet my demands perfectly.
>>52021630
Bass is important though unless you only listen to acoustic folk or something. I mean you won't even be able most of the lower notes on a bass.
>>52021565
>SE846 is the best in the price range
Uh, it decisively lacks extension above 10kHz.
I know that /hpg/ isn't reliable, but Head-Fi is not made of competent listeners either.
>>52021673
It must have been outstanding five star reviews such as this one that convinced our good friend here to make that purchase.
http://www.head-fi.org/products/shure-se846-sound-isolating-earphone/reviews/12154
Just kidding that was the most awful fucking review I've ever read.
I only listen to mongolian throat singing. what headphone setup will give me the most natural "im actually there hearing it" experience? budget is $700, in the us. source can be part of the budget if that will be better
>>52021713
>I was expecting my parents to jump me but they were like ‘cool dude sounds nice’.
10/10
>>52021741
HD600 with Mayflower Electronics O2 Amplifier, DAC optional.
>>52021673
There aren't many IEMs which actually have much above the 10khz mark due to the nature of BA. Get a clue.
Can anyone explain why these Shure SE535s sound so absolutely garbage from my laptop? I listen to side by side with my phone, tablet, O2 amplifier and then the laptop's 3,5mm stereo out and the laptop sounds like a voice call. Absolutely no bass whatsoever. I tried to find out if there's some DSP enabled but can't find anything. I reinstalled drivers just in case but it made no difference. I understand output impedance tends to have a huge effect on how these specific IEMs sound from many devices but this doesn't seem to correlate at all of how they should sound from high Zout. Anyone got a clue of what is going on? Full sized headphones tend to work really well from this output. I've used higher impedance headphones from it like HD 650 and HD 800.
What do you guys think about Sony MDRXB450AP Extra Bass and Behringer HPS 3000?
made some bass boost
yes, i am a nigger
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1jWkPxEUAoe
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0YX8lP1TV4p
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1UomERbp7Za
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1WetuZvgexD
>>52021921
Probably shitty amp
>>52021920
Most single BAs build around Sonion 2300/Knowles ED hit 15-16kHz fine, TWFK/GQ duals can go to 18-20kHz, and there are many cheap dynamic in-ears that hit 16-20kHz okay.
It isn't the limit of the balanced armature, Shure just likes making rolled off IEMs.
>>52021921
Remember that Z is the complex sum of constant resistance and frequency dependent reactance. It is possible that your laptop has a capacitor in the output acting as a high pass filter.
>>52021347
I hated my tf10s but I love my 846s. They're complete different beasts.
>>52022040
>Remember that Z is the complex sum of constant resistance and frequency dependent reactance. It is possible that your laptop has a capacitor in the output acting as a high pass filter.
That could be it indeed. That combined with the rise around 2kHz and a a sharp decline after that makes these sound like a TV''s built in speakers or earbuds.
>>52022041
do you exclusively just use your se846 for everything?
>Budget
£200 (£250 if I need a DAC/AMP)
>Location
England
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized, over ear if possible.
>Open or closed
Open, or closed if it improves the sound quality.
>Comfort level
As comfortable as possible. I'd rather they were more comfortable compared to a slight improvement in quality.
>Preferred tonal balance
More bass heavy if possible.
>Preferred music
Trap, rap.
>Past headphones
No decent headphones, only Razer Krakens.
I will also be using these for gaming.
Thanks!
>>52022186
Fidelio X2
No DAC/AMP required
>>52022096
A mix of 846/rs1e for weeb content and music, hf5 for gaming (lack of bass gives me a competitive edge, it's shit at everything else)
Those are the trio I've settle on after trying out tons of stuff
>>52022234
They are a bit out of my price range. But if I can't find anything else I might consider them.
Thanks anon!
>>52022267
DT 990 + FiiO E10K
Is a HD558 + piston III the best I can do with a $130 budget?
Headphone wouldn't leave the house and the earphones for gym/jogging use
>>52022302
Don't do this. Beyerdynamic is trash.
Pic related.
>>52022302
Thanks for the suggestion! They seem good especially considering they are only £90.
>>52022327
What was wrong with them if you don't mind me asking?
>>52022354
They sound like mud, I drove them with the exact same amplifier that guy recommended, the X2's are better in literally every way. I no longer have the X2's and don't wish to shill for Philips because of their terrible customer service but Beyerdynamic is never the answer.
Ladies
>>52022354
They aren't Sennheisers, duh.
>>52022354
Ear raping treble like every other Beyerdynamic headphone.
>>52022267
X2 can be bought used on Amazon for 142$. Still wouldn't buy it though.
>>52022401
I was looking at the Sennheiser 598, but apparently the bass is quite weak, and I prefer my music more 'bass heavy'.
>>52022399
Ah okay, I set a budget of around £200 for the actual headphones, and they are £100 more on Amazon. If I could pick them up in a sale would you recommend them? And I'd probably buy from Amazon, at least then I can just return them if I needed too.
>that feel when K7xx master race
>>52022447
Oh really?
On Amazon in the UK they are £300/$450.
>>52022479
Maybe check out the 558? It's basically a black 598 with more bass.
>>52022501
>>52022447
Oops, I didn't notice you said used.
>>52022479
If you're even half capable of EQ the DT990 would be a good option. They have good bass, especially for an open headphone, just the treble response is a problem.
The X2 have a lot of midbass but the subbass rolls of heavily so you get this boomy sounding bass with them. Definitely not worth the extra price, would be at best a sidegrade to the 990.
Your options are otherwise limited to closed headphones.
>>52022479
Yes, they sound good for the needs you described. The X2s that is.
>>52022501
They're 1.1k on Amazon Canada. No idea what the fuck is going on.
>>52022526
I'd prefer open, so I'll have a look into the 990s.
Thank you very much for your time!
As you can tell I've never had any experience with good headphones before...
>>52022526
Stop suggesting this shit lmao. DT990s have the worst mids of any open headphones I have ever heard, and now you act as if though they have good extension when they have an even worse midbass hump but with no actual impact and a very real roll off behind it. Just fuck off.
>>52022510
Would it be possible to drive them with my computers on board sound?
Or will I benefit from a DAC/Amp combo?
>>52022575
Why would you bother lying on the internet? Are you this desperate and devastated that somebody would recommend anything other than your precious X2?
>>52022599
I don't think the 598/558 needs an amp, so if you got a good onboard audio solution you should be fine.
>>52022544
Good old Amazon, always fucking up prices.
>>52022599
onboard will be fine
>>52022618
Excellent, I prefer the black look of the 558s as well, as a black set of the 598s are £60 more... And they have more bass, which I prefer.
The onboard sound is the Realtek ALC1150 chip, if that's any use to know?
>>52021977
Someone please
>>52022624
Excellent, thank you for clarifying that.
>>52022664
theyre shit
fill out the damn request form so we can get you something actually nice
>>52022655
ALC1150 is the best Realtek chip on the market and outperforms most if not all boutique 'audiophile' DAC/Amps. You're set.
Also the 558 can be made into 598s at any point in time by removing some foam from behind the driver, there is literally no point in buying the 598 unless there's a deal on them where they're cheaper than the 558.
>>52022655
ALC1150 is probably the best onboard you can get. You'll be fine, and if you're not reaching your preferred listening volume you could always just slap an amp between the two.
Which setting am I supposed to use here?
>>52022696
24bit, with the frequency at what most of your music is, which is 99% probably 44100hz
>>52022696
The DVD one is fine. You never need to mess with that unless you're recording/producing music.
>>52022709
not even then actually, but i would use CD before DVD, or he will have software upscaling the frequency for most of his content
>>52022671
I was just reading about the foam trick actually. Well thank you very much for your time, the 598 are actually £30 cheaper than the 558 at the moment...
I'm probably going to go ahead and order a one of them within the next week or so. Thanks again, and have a good Christmas!
>>52022680
Perfect, thank you for letting me know!
>>52022741
Virtually all DACs can upscale 44.1kHz to 48 kHz flawlessly (Xiph concicously chose Opus to have a 48 kHz sampling rate for this reason) and of course, movies and TV shows use 48 kHz.
>>52022671
>ALC1150 is the best Realtek chip on the market and outperforms most if not all boutique 'audiophile' DAC/Amps. You're set.
My computer from the olden days has only ALC889. Is it worth getting a dedicated DAC like ODAC or will it be placebo? I have not the golden ears
>>52022671
>ALC1150 is the best Realtek chip on the market and outperforms most if not all boutique 'audiophile' DAC/Amps
No.
>>52022086
Capacitor coupled outputs are a common, cheap way to filter out DC offset. Comes at the price in increased Z in the lower frequencies. Some voltage division calcs later, it should be clear why it runs counter to bass extension.
>>52022778
theres still no need to do upscaling if you dont have to, not that youre wrong about that
the opus upscaling actually happens at decode time, so thats an even higher quality conversion because windows/the dac/whatever wont touch it
however the inconsistency in what you said is that if your previous was true, then you should definitely use 24bit/48khz because blurays are actually using 24bit.
so use 24/48, i suppose
Foam mod worth it for HD558? Why the fuck did Senn put the foam in there in the first place?
>>52022891
because they hate you
>>52022891
To make it different from the 598.
>>52022863
Well when it comes to upscaling vs downscaling, you're generally better off upscaling. It probably doesn't really matter in this case though.
I know that bluray audio can support up to 24 bit, but I thought the codecs most commonly used were 16 bit like everything else. Am I wrong?
>>52022891
Because Sennheiser is corrupt as fuck and wanted to make it different than the higher model hd598 which is virtually the same just to milk stupid faggots who don't know any better. No wonder they have marketers on /g/ when they're pulling this kind of shit.
What is /g/'s breif opinion on the AKG K702s for someone that listens to bassy music?
>>52022920
>Well when it comes to upscaling vs downscaling, you're generally better off upscaling. It probably doesn't really matter in this case though.
its correct, it pretty much matters far under the statistical margin of error. as far as which ones better, it would be similar to tube amp vs solid state. downscaling would produce something more technically accurate, but people might like the sound of upscaled audio. still though, no one is going to hear the difference - literally no one.
>I know that bluray audio can support up to 24 bit, but I thought the codecs most commonly used were 16 bit like everything else. Am I wrong?
its pretty much a coin flip on BD audio. that is, whether it's going to be 16 or 24 bit. again, literally no one is going to hear the difference, but it's still a very decent amount of content at 24bit, so might as well put it there
>>52022957
k7xx would probably be better
>>52022957
If you want bass get m50x
>>52022901
>>52022905
>>52022926
So the 558 and 598 have the same exact drivers and components, and the only difference is the foam and very minor difference in the shape of the cups/headband? Does foam mod make the 558 rattle or any serious drawbacks?
>>52023039
not that i know of, but ive never owned them so dont take my word for it
>Budget
$1200 ARS (around $90)
>Location
Argentina
>Source
PC - Phone (Nokia Lumia)
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-Sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Med
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy
>Preferred music
Techno
>Past headphones
Logitech Wireless Headset H600
There isn't a really good site to compare prices really
>Budget
Less than $50
>Location
New York City
>Source
Galaxy Note smartphone and Laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Earbuds
>Open or closed
Closed. I want to drown out shouting
>Comfort level
Decently so. I don't really care that much in earphones
>Preferred tonal balance
Something that can do videogame and rock music right. Not too much bass. Nice neutral sound would be nice.
>Preferred music
Bombastic videogame style music, classical and rock
>Past headphones
$5 Panadonic earbuds
>>52023178
try to get mdr-v6/mdr-7506, see how much that costs (theyre the same thing)
What is a decent priced comfortable headset. A really comfortable headset, something which you could wear for hours and not have sore ears after.
>>52023446
Sennheiser Game One
Not really decent price
Do you guys have anything against the skull candy hesh 2 or crusher? I was thinking about getting one of the 2.
>>52023404
Why don't you go to one of the several headphone shops in NYC and run through their demo IEMs?
>>52023481
theyre shit, fill out the request form to get real headphones
>>52023471
Sorry my bad I did not mean to say headset I meant headphones. I hate headsets. I just use the zulman or modmic if i ever need a mic.
>>52023512
fill out the damn form senpai
Anyone have any experience with the current-gen Hifiman Planars?
I tried an HE-560 out the other day and I fell in love. Thinking about going back to demo the HE-400i tomorrow.
>>52023597
As a Sennheiser shill and fanboy I would advise against that, family.
>>52023597
i own the 400i's, absolutely phenomenal
they say the 560 are even better, but when i look at the graph, it doesnt sing the same tune
>>52023618
The thing that stuck out to me for the HE-560 was the smooth-ass bass and the fact that nothing really managed to make my ears hurt. It was being driven off of one of Hifiman's tube amps.
If the HE-400i feels the same, I'll get it.
>>52023706
>nothing hurt my ears
well the 400i is a bit on the brighter side of the hifiman series. i tend to like this because it's not accentuated, just slightly colored, so it avoids the veil sound without being spiky.
then again though, this might be too much for you, because im not sensitive to treble. if youre familiar with the dt880s treble (by experience.. not what people say), i can say they do not hurt my ears like people here say. i also know 2 other people both with the 250 and 600ohm 880s and they have never complained of the treble either. i think it may be a meme started because of the 770 and 990, but thats a discussion for another time. im just saying this because if you are one of them, the 400i might be teetering that threshold, and the 560 more for you
>>52023486
I don't even have the money for the travel.
>>52023876
Don't have the money for Metrocard fare to Manhattan? That's sad.
Just take that out of your budget so that you can find a pair better suited to you. Or I can just throw some crap IEM at you that collects dust, that's also an option.
Anyone got opinions on the RHA T20?
I'm looking for a good everyday, all around IEM to use at the computer for about $200
soon, family... soon.
https://a.uguu.se/ixtlsj_BlueStageXI_Article2%2CVideo1.mp4
What headphone would you buy for gaming, music and movies?
>>52023597
>>52023618
Would like to hear your impressions of 400i vs 560 later, since I've also been thinking about getting one of those two.
>>52024150
Whatever the fuck fits your tastes best within your budget.
>>52024150
HD558
>>52024150
How much and what type
can someone id this mic?
>>52024150
You looking for sound intensive gaming like Counter-Strike? Or you like to hear assplosions like in Cowadooty
>>52024023
I love how at the end the box couldn't close properly. Also, what the fuck is he wearing on his head?
>>52024200
a scarf to hide scarring from surgery
>>52024196
nm i found it, its the Neumann M149
>>52024179
Budget: ~$200
>>52024197
Rarely play CS:GO, usually play LoL and some indie game
I currently own a Razer Kraken 7.1 and want some better than that
>Budget
Up to $300.
>Location
Canada/USA
>Source
Computer
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear. Detachable cord. Cord on one cup only. Replaceable pads.
>Open or closed
Open preferred.
>Comfort level
Comfort first. I don't want the pads to press on my ears. Willing to buy a different set of pads.
>Preferred music
I don't really care but I'll be using them for VOIP, games and Spotify on shuffle + J pop.
I'm considering the SHP9500, Fidelio X2, Q701, K702 and the K7XX right now. I really like the form
factor of the 9500s and X2s though so I was wondering if there was anything else similar to those headphones?
FiiO E10K.
Does anyone on /g/ have one of these, and what headphones do you use it with and how do you rate it?
I've got some K701 that I haven't used regularly in a few years now and I'd like to get them back in action. I know that the O2+ODAC is recommended by many but when the headphone output of my Cambridge Audio Azur 340A is up to snuff I'm going to assume that this FiiO will do an equally good, if not better, job.
Thanks in advance.
>>52023973
Are IEMs worth it? Like to even have a personalized fit? Do they do that?
>>52024633
X2, but you'll have a hard time for finding different set of pads for X2 though. ATH MSR7 on the other hands are easily interchangeable with other pads, but its closed.
>>52024874
Personalized fit is usually customize and molded using your ears as models so you can get perfect seal and tremendous comfort on it.
Hi, /g/. I'm looking for wireless bluetooth earbuds that my father can hide under his ear protection at work. I've googled a bit, but he tasked me with finding "the best" possible, and I know you guys don't fuck around in this department. Thanks so very much.
How many of how have gone over this Harman study: The Correlation Between Distortion Audibility and Listener Preference in Headphones.
It shies away from definitive conclusions, but the results are very interesting.
The headphones in order are the:
-Bose QC15
-AKG K701
-Beats Studio
-Sony MDR-V600
-STAX SR-009
It's one of the papers here.
>https://mega.nz/#F!3MFm1DrD!4GlU_vNtEeF148kZcQ05wA
>Budget
$50
>Location
USA
>Source
Laptop, Tablet, Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Adequately comfortable. I should be able to lay on my back and stare at the ceiling without feeling discomfort.
>Preferred tonal balance
???
>Preferred music
Classical, Shoegaze, Electronic shit like BoC, pretentious hipster bullshit like AnCo, post rock shit like WEG
>Past headphones
>>52025065
Isn't because truly bottleneck is our ear, right?
>>52024874
In ears are the standard earphone if you want to have even remotely passable sound quality,
Personalized fit is something you have to go out of your way to request and order. Many audiologists will do this, but the procedure is different from taking a typical hearing aid impression.
>>52024948
LG Tone Infinium. It sound decent from memory.
Limited competent choices on the wireless front unfortunately.
>>52024633
SHP9500 and the AKG's would be better for gaming. Avoid the AKG models with the skull bumps. The AKG's K7XX's soundstage is almost as good as the HD800's. The larger the soundstage the better for gaming. The AKG's would require an amp though. The AKG K7XX and the Fidelio X2 are both extremely comfortable but if you don't want anything pressing on your ears i'd recommend the K7XX because of the larger opening in the earpads. I haven't tried the SHP9500 but reviews tend to say they are more open than the Fidelio X2's.
The AKG's would be better for j-pop music as they tend to be the brighter cans. You would hear those shrill nippon llittle girl voices in all their glory. I would say the X2's are built a lot better but with the recent problem with the earpad ink coming off and ruining things, i'm not quite too sure. I'm still siding with the X2's as I haven't had that problem.
Get an AKG K7XX and an amp like the Fiio e10k or schitt magni.
If you can't find a deal on those for up to 300 dollars then just get the X2's. They're a bit more closed than the other headphones, though they will still be good for gaming just not as good. They'll also be a lot more fun in the bass department.
If you just want to go cheap then don't get the SHP9500 at its current price and instead just get something like the HD558 or Takstar 2050 instead. Those are better deals.
>>52025065
isn't headphone D sony?
SONY/BRIGHT FAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
also
>people unable to tell the $4000 sr009 apart
>>52025124
I'm looking for something like pic related. Really, it's battery life I'm most interested in.
>>52025115
It's one of the files in the list, go read it if you want more information. There are even listener comments on how each of them perceived the distortion.
Besides the clear outlier in the V600, they had some trouble telling it apart. Most of the time their descriptions are contradictory, they are unsure. There is a definite trend to rating the Bose and Stax as the best, least subjective concerns.
>>52025196
>BRIGHT FAGS
It was equalized, it is a test that specifically focuses on distortion.
>>52025341
Something small and discreet that completely fits under earmuffs? Unfortunately, I cannot help you there.
>>52025342
>It was equalized, it is a test that specifically focuses on distortion.
probably clipped to hell then
>Budget
200ish
>Location
murcia
>Source
PC and Phone (moto x gen 2)
>Open or closed
closed
>Past headphones
m50x's
akg q 701
I like my m50x's, but want the bigger earpads the q 701's have since on the m50x' they push down on my ears and gets hard to wear after an hour.
>>52025408
i hate people like you
that want to "upgrade" to yet another headphone of the same price
>>52025408
Then replace the pads on the M50x with HM5 pads and stretch the headband out.
I just saved you $180.
>>52025417
I don't want an upgrade, I want something like the m50x's with bigger earpads like the akg q 701's have and closedback
>>52025392
Well, at least you described what I'm looking for perfectly. Someone else may be able to help. Thanks.
>>52025400
80dB(B-weighted) listening level isn't overdriving their amplifiers. No particular clipping is involved.
>>52025440
Are the pads bigger than the factory ones? It is not that the headband is too tight it is my ears are too big so the tops gets pushed into my head from the rim of the pads
>>52025476
They are. By a lot. The M50x pads are notoriously small and thin, the HM5 pads are massive in comparison.
You can even get angled ones for $5 more, and they come in different colors if you're into that. I personally quite like the purple.
>>52024911
>ATH MSR7
Thank you, I will be looking into these. Any idea on how durable they are? Im always scared of those swivel cups Audio technica makes.
>>52025138
Thanks for the info. I've looked into both the HD558 and Takstar's before but I didn't like the looks and plastic build of most of Sennheiser stuff. I might have to look into the HD558 again though because my cousin also recommended those headphones. I've also heard about the X2 problems but it seems that Philips has acknowledged the problem and most of the units were from Amazon anyways.
>>52025503
>HM5 pads
http://www.amazon.com/Brainwavz-Velor-Memory-Replacements-Earpads/dp/B00MFDX4YO
Are these the pads you are talking about? Just making sure before I pull the trigger.
>>52025572
Those are the velour ones, they also come in pleather for if you want better noise isolation and more bass. I'd say pleather ones would suit you better if you like the standard M50x's sound.
>>52025567
The hinges are pretty solid. While its a little rigid due to 90 swivel, it makes pretty good due rigid swivel that allowing for good hinges material. MSR-7 comes with mic cable too, thats a plus.
>>52020298
Is this a new /hpg/ meme?
>>52025585
Alright thanks for the help.
Should I just ditch low-midfi headphones?
I can't find the right headphone.
I really hate the M-100s, I miss my M50x's. I'd return them, but I'm not sure about Microsoft's return policy on opened headphones. The V6's were too harsh and I wanted more out of the 598's. I ordered the X2's and I'm expecting not to like those either, especially after the CQ fiasco.
Maybe I should've just kept the M50x's and ordered some velour pads to increase comfort and reduce bass. My only complaint was that they were uncomfortable and sounded a little tinny, but even then I preferred them over all the other ones.
Should I get the HD600s and an amp, then call it a day or rebuy the M50x?
>poorfags cant afford good speakers
>>52026899
People can afford speakers the problem is being able to afford a house to use the speakers in
quick question /hpg/
i have some new headphones
and they work great
but occasionally, even if im not playing anything that has sound, i hear this static hiss sound
it pops in and out randomly, lasting maybe 10-20 seconds
whats causing this background static noise to happen?
what can i do to stop this behavior?
>>52027404
Are you plugging directly into a laptop headphone jack?
Anyway, seems like you're picking up hiss, so a DAC will likely solve your problem. Get an E10k or something.
>Budget
80Eur
>Location
Europe
>Source
PC, i have asus Xonar DG sound card, not sure if it helps though
>Preferred type of headphone
over-ear (or on-ear)
>Open or closed
Closed back (need good isolation)
>Comfort level
High
>Preferred tonal balance
Bass or monitor
>Preferred music
EDM, Rock, Rap, Pop
>Past headphones
Senheiser 428s, these were pretty good, but there isolasion sucked, now im using senheiser tv 25, again crappy isolasion.
One headphone that caught my eyes is Phillips SHL3300, it does seem to have good isolasion, but its on-ear and its comfort level doesnt seem to be good..
>>52027620
yes im plugging directly into the jack on my desktop computer case
could you provide a possible link to purchase what you're suggesting will fix the problem?
Is the m50x that better then the m50?
>>52027758
http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-E10K-Headphone-Amplifier-Black/dp/B00LP3AMC2
The E10k is a combined amp+DAC, so it has more scalability if you upgrade or get additional, harder-to-drive headphones.
You can also just get a cheaper standalone DAC or sound card, but I have no idea what the good budget ones are.
>>52027815
Thanks friend
>>52027813
It's the same sound, but the M50x is worth it because of the detachable cable. It comes with 3 different cords. You can get a used pair for under $110. I'd rather just spend the extra money to get the M50x.
>>52027856
I totally forgot about the cable thing actually.
They are in my amazon basket as we speak, I'm just nervous about pulling the trigger because they are expensive for me.
what DAP are you guys using? Niggers stole my iPod 5.5 at the gym
>>52027876
$110 is breaking the bank? You can get them used in "very good" condition off Amazon for like $108 + tax if you're in the U.S. A lot of people will call them memephones, but I think they're good for that price. If you don't mind less bass, you can get the M40x for $79.99 off Amazon.
>>52027930
It is when you're making 500$ a month.
Anyway, I just ordered them. Fuck it its time I get something decent.
My last pair where old Razer Orcas that just died. Half a year ago i got myself a AKG k375 for my commutes, it was time to upgrade my home setup.
Hope they are worth it, I heard good things about them but I hope its not just hype.
>>52027975
>My last pair where old Razer Orcas that just died.
you could literally have bought ANYTHING and it'd be miles better
I picked up the SR850s for 30€ and the difference was so unimaginably big
>>52027993
I can't remember what I was thinking back then.
Something something at least they don't have a mic so they are not full on "gaming" headphones something something.
>>52028014
don't try to explain why you bought razer. you were stupid. now you're less stupid. that's just all there is.
>>52027975
Well anything will sound like shit when you're a poorfag and are expecting something God-tier. You'll probably return them so you can buy some packs of ramen.
Do you live in the ghetto or a 3rd world country? How are you surviving with just $500 a month?
>>52028027
$500 is OK. I work at a bank in its HQ.
Just slugging along in the poorest country in the European Union is all and still with my parents because thats how its done here, good luck going out by yourself with that kind of money.
I can't wait to hear them and I don't plan on returning them. I'm going to babysit the shit out of them tho.
>>52028076
>I work at a bank in its HQ.
>500$ a month
do you work like part time?
how the fuck do you get paid so little in a fucking bank
that's like 50-60 hours a month at minimum wage
>>52028076
where a person works doesn't really say anything about what you're earning. you could be the guy that mops up the lobby or you could be a teller, or you could be an executive. clarifying that you make good money because you work at a bank is so meaningless it's retarded, like saying "I'm educated, I went to a university"
>>52028100
>>52028104
Not him, but obviously his cost of living would be lower as well. I think minimum wage in the poorer EU countries is like 300 euros per month or something.
>>52028134
Its actually 185 euro.
As I said, around 450 euro a month is ok.
![Hourly_Minimum_Wages_in_Developed_Economies,_2013[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/GhUAT6j.png "Hourly Minimum Wages in Developed Economies, 2013[1]")
>>52028134
>meanwhile faggots in the US complaining they don't get enough tips
>>52028148
>>52028134
full time?
that's less than a dolla an hour, where the fuck is that in EU
>>52028175
Probably Romania
I can't test this now so I'll just ask this dumb question real quick.
Is there a difference between plugging in the headphones directly to the motherboard in the back compared to plugging them in the speakers?
>>52028328
depends on the speakers I guess
>>52026925
But room treatment it literally to take it that extra step. Speakers in a shitty room are still going to sound far better than any headphone ever could.
>>52021337
good numbers.
Asked before but thread died shortly after
>Budget
Up to $100
>Location
Australia
>Source
Smartphone
>Preferred type of headphone
Earphones. Prefer durability over quality.
Also don't want over the ear if possible
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Must be able to move around while wearing
>Preferred tonal balance
-
>Preferred music
Orchestrated, weebshit and games
>Past headphones
Apple earbuds, though primary headphones is the Sennheiser HD 518
>>52028541
>Speakers in a shitty room are still going to sound far better than any headphone ever could
which headphones did you try out?
Gentle reminder:
http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=-1&graphID[]=2621&graphID[]=573&graphID[]=853&scale=30
>>52028892
I'm fairly sure speakers go to a higher magnitude of cost and quality than headphones
>>52028915
You didn't reply to my question
>>52028925
well I'm not the person you're asking
Hi, sorry guys, would you, please, help me?
I love music, but I'm such a noob with audio things.
What I need is a pair of domestic headphones, under 100€/$, comfortable even if my head is small ahahah I'm used to headphones which I can't wear for longer than 1 hour or 2.
I usually listen to very bassy songs like tekno and goa, but most of the time I listen to songs full of instruments too and I would like to identify each of them, mmmh I'm talking about psychedelic music or strange experimental ambient.
I think I would prefer something closed, I like the feeling of the music inside my brain.
>>52029012
take a look at the MDR line, like the mdr v6 or the mdr 7506
>>52028134
i'm not sure how this relates to what i said.
AD900 vs HD600 unamped?
>>52028909
AKG Masterrace
>>52029302
Fucking yes
>>52029332
>le no bass race
>>52029380
BOOM BOOM BOOM
Pic related is for you
>>52024695
Got one, using it with DT 770 250 ohms and it drivers them super loud.
As for sound quality, I think it sounds great but I have nothing to compare it to.
>>52029412
>>52029380
>fake akgs have shit bass
lol poorfags
>>52029429
Does the Fiio e10K colour the headphones?
>>52021496
I don't think that this is due to Amazon, many people on reddit have the same issues even though they bought their X2 elsewhere. I think that Philips must have fucked up the production at some point.
>>52029841
>>52029850
> 4chan
>>52025065
It actually makes a quite clear conclusion.
>The least preferred headphone (Headphone D) had the greatest amount of THD below 100 Hz and greatest amount of non-coherent distortion between 100 Hz and 1 kHz.
>>52029041
HD 600
>>52030130
shill
>>52021353
You may change your habits by getting a better headphone in the first place
>>52030136
Obviously
Try to be nice on Christmas, anon.
Has anyone tried the Sennheiser HD7 DJ? I was looking at getting a pair for music production, and can a phone drive them well?
>>52030130
> 300 ohm
> 102 dB/V
>>52029041 said unamped.
Close yourself into the armchair, where you and the narrow sound of your headphone belong to
Hey /g/, first time posting here. for christmas my parents bought me a HA400 microamp, and I've been running my AKG mkii's through them and for some reason at maxish volume they sound (from what i can describe) as really 'dirty', like a lot of static etc. is there any particular reason for this or are my headphones/amp just shit? Sorry for being a sound rookie, just starting to understand sound related stuff. thanks in advance /g/.
>>52030220
Maybe you should start listening to music at a safer volume
>>52030244
Come on man, its not that i want ridiculously loud headphones. It's just that my mkii's sounded really quiet even at max when powered through my laptop (which is understandable) yet when i use them through the microamp the volume is hardly noticeable but the quality is.
>>52030202
Epic. I haven't heard this before.
I wouldn't consider the AD900X myself because of the coloration and I have never ran into issues with insufficient listening volume with HD 600/650 hence I would pick the HD 600. It is true that they are a bit on the low side with sensitivity but not low enough to always warrant purchasing an amplifier and so far it was never needed one in my personal experience with the headphones. Now if the anon asking wants to fiddle with EQ, listens to music with really high dynamic range and does not want to buy an amplifier if the volume is not loud enough under those circumstances, I'd probably recommend the AD900X. As the question did not specify anything about the listening conditions, gear or anything else and "amping" is vague term at best, I'll stand by what I recommended.
>>52030272
Then it means that your amp isn't powerful enough. They have a 104 dB/V sensitivity after all.
>>52030220
Could be the amplifier clipping in output voltage.
>>52030315
>104 dB/V
What do? the specific model of microamp i have or?
>>52030342
You need a more powerful amplifier.
>>52030342
That's the voltage sens of the MKII, you might need a more powerful amp.
>>52030307
> they sound loud enough to me then they don't need an amp
HD600/650 need an amp in most of the cases, unless your pc/DAC has a powerful built-in pre-amp/amp.
I'm forced to temporarily work with a laptop that generates shitty static, probably poor grounding or whatever. Will any cheap amp fix this? Bonus points if it's portable
>>52029967
Perhaps because I was looking more into evaluation of distortion metric, but the stuff about most of the headphone having passable distortion level is not exactly shocking news.
As they point out, they want to bring in more crappy headphones to really extract meaningful differences with distortion relation to perception.
>>52030342
It's more that you picked a crappy musician head-amp than anything else. Voltage division with the output impedance ensures that little of the output actually gets to your headphone. May just be better off plugging them into your phone.
>>52030427
a cheap usb sound card or something will probably also work
>>52030427
You don't need an amp, you need a DAC.
>>52030475
A DAC that has a built in headphone amp is what anon needs. Some cheap USB sound card with line level out is probably worse for the sound than the noisy shit right now.
>>52030456
>>52030413
>>52030363
yeah my dad runs a music store that appeals to dudes in their 30-50's playing dad rock etc,so i expect the gear to reflect on that. any preamps you guys suggest that would synergise well with the mki's? thanks again bros
Ps i got some shure SE102 ear bud headphones aswell which im pretty stoked on so i dont have to lug around my mkii's when im going for a jog/its hot as fuck. I also got some Presonus Eris 5's, which are far out my price league atm. Merry christmas /g/.
>>52022696
24 bit 41000 hz
>>52030531
If you don't want/need multiple outputs with controls, this becomes a lot easier to do on the cheap.
I got the NVX Audio XPT100 recommended but I don't like them at all (it's been 3 months now).
What do, sell them?
>>52031028
what else would you do with them
convert them into a dildo?
>>52031028
you probably put that you like bass on the rec, didnt you? what happened, dont actually like bass as much as you thought?
>buy me blue yeti platnium for christmas
>it picks up too much background noise. low gain high volume and opposite doesn't even make a difference
Sound quality is good I guess, but my room seems to hall too much
>>52031075
do you have it just sitting on your desk?
>>52031038
By the looks of it I'm sure you could actually do that
>>52031060
No, I just said I have a big head and need comfort. They are actually comfortable, but the sound quality is just not there. It's weird that you mention bass, because that's exactly what I feel like is missing.
>>52031086
yes
>>52031097
jesus christ you want even more bass? here you go bro lmao
http://www.amazon.com/Skullcandy-Crusher-Headphones-Built--Amplifier/dp/B00E1CSEMO/ref=sr_1_1?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1450966047&sr=1-1&keywords=skullcandy+crusher
>>52031113
try putting a bunch of something soft under it for starters, foam, a towel, something thick that wont reflect sound. dont keep it close to anything like a monitor either
or take the easier route and suspend it in air with a stand of some kind, so you can talk even closer to it and it's even farther from... anything
equalized DT880 or HD600?
>>52031153
600
>>52031153
None, just get a X2, wich sounds excellent without amp and EQ.
>>52031153
if youre not overly sensitive to treble, id go with the 880. easier without an amp (assuming you dont have one) and cheaper, plus the driver matching on the hd600s isnt exactly sexy
>>52031153
DT880.
>>52031142
nice meme, but I think something might be wrong with my mainboard soundcard. I had USB gayming headsets and Sennheisers with more bass than the NVX. I have this Realtek SupremeFX application which seems to fuck with all the sound. You think I should try deinstall it? I also have a clip mic which works really great on my laptop but on my PC it just records all the background noise, basically everything except my voice
>>52031222
sure, try and uninstall. if nothing changes, try unchecking pic related if it exists as well
>Budget
$100
>Location
Hungary
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Going to wear it for long periods
>Preferred music
Electronical,J-rock
>Past headphones
Some shitty USB headphone,nothing serious.
Right now my current bet is on Plantronics RIG Surround or RIG HD500.
>>52020272
Anybody here electronics engineer tier? My Superlux Evo broke when the left earphone went out, the whole wiggly wire scenario. I popped them open and resoldered the connectors from the jack to the two metal posts that carry the signal to the opposite earphone, which act as an intermediary between the headphone jack and the mainboard. Much to my dismay, when I wiggled the connections the cord came out of the hole where the mainboard is, so I did some more disassembling and came upon the left side of the picture. The right earphone was wired to (1), presumable, since that's what didn't pop out so easily. Now, I have no fucking idea where the other one popped out of, but common sense says (2) and that's where I resoldered it to.
Now I'm getting sound out of both earphones, but my left-surround comes out of both sides. My right surround works and only come out of the right. Can't provide pictures because I already closed them all up.
The other diagram that I professionally sketched up are the wires, if I pop it open and redo the soldering I won't have enough length to recut the current wires which are thin, braided ones like A. I have other wired, but they're just shielding around a solid metal cylinder like B, ill that make a difference?
>>52031240
I just uninstalled that piece of driver software and now I get what you mean by big bass. Holy fuck, that's insane. Sound is very clear and better quality now as well. Thanks for the help, but why would Realtek make software that comes with the audio drivers that reduces the sound quality?
>>52030105
>knowyourmeme.com
>>52031359
shit like this exists in every market, its seriously best not to think about. all you can really do is educate yourself as much as possible and try to discover the truth behind things in an attempt to get the best you can everywhere. the market will /not/ provide you the truth, only what people think they want
is there any full-sized headphone in the same price range as the Fidelio X2 which sounds better than them? By "better" I don't mean that it sounds more neutral
>>52031412
so you want a stronger v shape in that price range? even if it does exist, i dont know what it is. but currently, of the phones that /hpg/ would actually recommend you, i dont think anything would be better than the x2 at what it does. that is, a v shaped open accoustic headphone at that price.
so guys, my fucking benq monitors have these magnets in their stands to hold these detachable hardware button things that control presets and whatever else
but who the fuck thought that was a good idea? even ruling out an amp+dac, which is what i want to put there, people put all manners of things on tables next to these magnets. cell phones, earbuds, headphones, mp3 players, etc. isnt this a bad idea?
>>52031427
The problem is that I don't know if I should keep my Fidelio X2. It's got glued earpads, but this is not the main problem: the fact is that they don't sound much less congested and much more detailed/natural than other pairs of closed headphones that I have, like the AKG K702 (which should be much worse than Fidelio X2, when it comes to listening to music, I suppose). The X2 are the first pair of open headphones I ever had and listened to, then I have no idea as to how an open headphone is supposed to sound. At this point I don't know if it's a problem of my unit or if X2 are like this, nevertheless I decided to buy a AKG K702 from Amazon, because I'm really curious to know their sound, and I asked Amazon a refund for my X2. What if AKG don't sound "better", more open and more natural than the X2? maybe am I expecting too much from a open headphone?
>>52031654
pardon, I meant the AKG K518 LE
>>52031303
Aren't there two points with solder joints, at the PCB on the drive unit, and the wires in the back of the cup?
>>52031654
>>52031666
er, so, what? you bought the x2, and now you bought the k702? the k702 will sound more natural as the fr is more neutral. the k518 le is probably not very good. but there is truth to your worries, this is the point where the main difference between headphones is their signature that can be easily modified with eq
>>52031851
>k518 le is probably not very good
and yet they don't sound much worse than my X2, as they're supposed to, I believe...
>>52031851
also by natural I mean realistic...aren't open headphones supposed to generally sound more realistic than closed ones?
>>52031654
I think I remember you. Weren't you also considering the SHP9500 and K702? Then you put away the 702 from consideration after being told it might need an amplifier.
I didn't offer much advice on what headphone that you should buy. You have to walk in knowing what you want to make a good purchase.
>>52031886
i dont have any measurements so i cant say, but im going to be honest with you. while the x2 is something people would hate on here, you not being able to tell the difference between something like these two headphones means you probably dont have very good hearing. even if their signature was quite similar, just the fact that ones open and one is closed should make them quite different. try this: put your x2s on, turn on some music, and put your hands over the vents to see what it would sound like if they were closed. try to "figure out" what the difference is in the sound (it should be really apparent) and then put on your 518s and see if you can hear that same closedness.
>>52031900
i guess i kinda need to start with ground zero here, heh. the naturalness of the sound is more dependant on each headphones frequency response, not whether it's open or not. not that open wont also aid in its naturalness, because it will, but if that is what you wanted, the x2 would be the last thing you would want to buy. get what im saying? the k702 would be a much better representation, especially if the 518s actually do have a pretty neutral signature that youre already used to.
>This fidelio x2 hate in the thread
every big and important audio youtuber has confirmed them to better than any saltheiser except for the 1k$ hd800.
>>52031920
yes it's me. I decided the X2 because I like modern music and I didn't want to buy an amp, but the problem now is that I can't see any great differences between the open sound of the X2 and the closed sound of my K518. I might even say that I prefer my K518, since mids there don't sound as recessed as on my X2. The amp isn't a problem anymore, infact I bought a Fiio e10k for my AKG K702.
>>52031940
> put your x2s on, turn on some music, and put your hands over the vents to see what it would sound like if they were closed. try to "figure out" what the difference is in the sound (it should be really apparent) and then put on your 518s and see if you can hear that same closedness.
Is it bad if I can't hear huge differences?
> the x2 would be the last thing you would want to buy. get what im saying? the k702 would be a much better representation
Great! I'm curious to listen to the K702 now.
>>52031153
X2 is ten times better than dt880
X2>hd650>hd600>dogshit 5$ headphones> beyers remorse dt880
>>52032109
>>52032155
Stop the shitposting, it's Christmas.
>>52032155
K702 and K7XX>X2>hd650>hd600>dogshit 5$ headphones> beyers remorse dt880
>:^)
>>52032130
>Is it bad if I can't hear huge differences?
i personally think so. but who knows
>Great! I'm curious to listen to the K702 now.
you should be. im pretty sure you seek a neutral response, and you will be more satisfied. but the degree of your satisfaction at this point, im not so sure about. maybe just get some cheaper mostly neutral open headphones if you cant hear the difference?
>>52032246
>but the degree of your satisfaction at this point, im not so sure about. maybe just get some cheaper mostly neutral open headphones if you cant hear the difference?
I grabbed the K702 because they're not very expensive on Amazon.it now (198 eur, which is almost 100 eur less than what I paid for my X2), but money isn't a problem for me at the moment, I just didn't want to spend more than 300eur for a headphone setup.
Coming back to X2, I heard some people say that it sounds congested and not as spacious and wide as many other open headphones. Now, everyone has a different hearing perception, what sounds congested to me may not be the same to you ecc.ecc. I don't know, maybe I have a wrong idea/expectation of how open headphones should sound
>>52031839
There are four solder joints on the PCB, which is represented in the left side of the diagram. It was the red wire that popped out of hole and disconnected from the PCB If I remember correctly.
one should be left, one should be ground. Since the white wire is connected to the driver, the pole to the other driver, and the jack that has to be ground.
That leaves the red wire to to be the left earphone, which connects to the gold wire from the jack, and the red mini-wire from the jack connects to the bent metal pole over to the other drive directly, so that must be the right earphone. As far as I know I soldered everything correctly and even re-taped the left earphone wire to wire connection. I may have a short in there somewhere, but my more pressing question is this:
Does the wire type matter? Do I have to use the braided wires, or can I use the crappy wired I have lying around and just gunk them in place once I've got everything working?
>>52032450
there are many ifs in this market. there is no way to give a definite cause on anything vague like "i cant tell much of the difference in vague term x). so many things can be at play here.
i thought my x2s sounded airy enough, more airy than the dt880s at least, and other closed phones like mdr-xd300. ive never heard the k702, but i would guess that the k702 will sound more open though, looking at their design
>>52032450
x2's sound like bloated mud and are an awful introduction to open headphones
x2 is the result of taking boomy bloated closed bass and putting it into an open design, so you can enjoy even more unnatural sounding mids
>>52032610
>i thought my x2s sounded airy enough
This is what the majority of people think actually, but trust me, when I first compared my X2 and my K518 and I wasn't able to notice the differences between the two in terms of airiness and clarity, I thought that my X2 had some serious problems. My X2 have glued earpads after all, so who knows if at Philips they didn't do anything else wrong, maybe with the drivers? It's just speculation, but I'm not sure if I absolutely have to rule out major issues with my headphones
>>52032487
>Does the wire type matter?
Just don't do anything monumentally stupid that could actually affect RLC.
The wire choice doesn't matter, avoid cold joints and reinforce the connections when done.
>>52032130
You might want some sound signature that neutral or colored sound that have emphasis in midrange and treble. Also, your music preferences didn't help too. As modern music is usually mastered with linear soundstage in the studio. Openness impression will heard from live recording and its usually found on "audiophile" music.
>>52025094
I'll just call attention to this post again.
>>52033404
You can't get consistent seal if you want to lay on your back using over-ear headphone. Especially for closed ones.
>>52030172
I've seen someone post about them here a while back. Something along the lines of "expected niggerbass, got niggerbass".
Is the Beyerdynamic T70p much of an upgrade over their DT770? Thinking about blowing £300 on them, but don't really know if it's worth it.
>>52033649
> Beyerdinamic
>>52033689
Going to need a bit more information tbqh. What's the reasoning behind the ebin meme arrow?
>>52033826
No, It'll be easily oxidated in time. Making your IEM moldy.
New thread
>>52033894
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>>52033826
>stock cable
>olives
Step up kouhai
>>52020640
Beyerdynamic DT770 with a cheap amplifier.
I'm a big fan of wood closed headphones. I think one day I'll get a really crisp/clear open-back headphone to accompany them, too.
I previously had the HE-6 but although they sounded great I really disliked needing to have a gigantic amplifier on my desk to power them. I pretty much don't care about a headphone if a Benchmark DAC1 is insufficient to get them sounding correct.
>>52029841
Where else can you buy the X2? Philip's website list Amazon and a broken Walmart page. I know you can buy them on Newegg for 100$ more. Where else?
>>52032828
Now this is podracing.
>muddy
Not even in a million years
>recessed
Wtf are you smoking
Theres some people who only stare at graphs, and some who actually listen to the music. If gods of audio, like Tyll, admit that X2 beats saltheiser (more balanced) well youre point is moot, since those recessed mids can be heard clear and loud. Maybe youre just used to sennheiser boomy mids?
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