I`m about to replace my amd 5870(i know it`s old)
I can`t decide between the gtx 970 and the r9 390. What do?
r9 390 if you plan to VR
390x
390 is better for that price point. Although you should just get a 980 used desu family
>>51986250
>he buys abused cards
muh sides
They're all pretty terrible. Best to wait for HBM 2 and cooler 14nm GPUs coming out next year.
What's wrong with your 5870?
Mines still going strong. Don't plan on upgrading till second/third gen 14nm.
Just turn your settings down from ultra to high.
>>51986576
or wait for volta which will come out in 2018
970 will get slightly better frames at 1080p. If you plan on playing at higher resolutions then 390 by far.
>>51986580
1 gig vram doesn`t cut it bro. I can`t even play ark on low settings.
>>51986513
>he wastes money on cards that do the same thing
muh sides
>>51986580
>Doesn't consistently upgrade so he can play on max settings
Are you poor?
>>51986684
ah hahahahahahahaha fuck off asshole
>>51986074
R9 390 all the way. Unless you want to be a VRAM cuck and pay for lesser hardware.
>>51986074
GTX 970 all the way
because AMD doesn't make a commercially available reference card last time I checked
>>51986074
The 390, it's a powerhouse for 1080p, and you can play 1440p games well on it. Plus if you get another later you have a 4k machine
>>51988038
That is the most retarded argument I ever heard on this board in defence of Nvidia, why on earth would you want a reference card? And if you have to make me give an example just take a look at the Fire Pro series.
>>51988092
I only wanted a reference card because of thermals of my current case. AND OBVIOUSLY MY NICHE SITUATION IS WHAT EVERYONE IS CONSIDERING WHEN THEY ASK THESE QUESTIONS
>>51986074
390 because its really powerful and gets even better when D12 comes along.
This actually a pretty bad time to upgrade.
>>51988204
how come?
>>51988176
>>51988204
Elaborate please.
Well, with winter being upon us, I'd recommend the r9 390. The extra heat will keep you warm while you're regretting the purchase you made
>>51988243
>>51988245
On the verge of more powerful cards coming out prompted by VR release
Normally I dont like to say "just wait, lel" because it turns into permawaiting. but this is the time to wait.
>>51986074
390 is the better deal.
they are pretty much the same performance wise but
390 has more vram
better dx12 support (allegedly)
better vr support (allegdely)
I have 2 970s in my system and I love em, so you can't go wrong with either or but I think the 390 edges this one out.
>>51988245
As the other commenter said you should wait.
AMD cards uses a GCN architecture that supports asynchronous computing. Async breaks the work load up for better performance by not letting the GPU run idle( see attached video for a detailed explanation). Obviously this will allow better performance leading to better FPS. You must have an API(DX12) that uses this feature. This means when DX12 games are released you can expect to see better performance from your 390. Nvidia cards does not do this.
>>51988799
Correction->As the other commenter said you should wait. I don't think you have too. the 390 already supports VR and Async.
Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3dUhep0rBs
>>51986840
Are you retarded? High end Nvidia cards have a life expectancy of two years on average before the memory burns, chances it will die within months of you purchasing it.
>>51988243
>>51988245
Because next year 14nm cards will replace the current 28nm generation. Anything you buy today is soon going to be so obsolete it won't even be funny.
>>51988862
>"High end Nvidia cards have a life expectancy of two years on average before the memory burns"
^He's trying to tell you to buy the 390 because the nvidia card will burn out in 2 years.
>>51986684
>Having 3.5gbs of vram
What's better for maya, the 970 or the 390?
>>51988920
So wait, what if I'm making an entirely new PC? Should I still wait? I can probably get a 14nm GPU by the end of 2016 anyways.
>>51986074
sack the fuck up and get a Zotac 980 Ti AMP Extreme Edition
970 owner here
helped friend build a system with a 390
wish i got a 390 instead now
oh well
>>51991023
I guess its all about that PCI-E 4.0 :^)
>>51991044
Elaborate anon-kun
>>51988799
>wait for gpu
>wait for new API
>wait for new games
What in the hell
Can someone explain to me the significance of size in nanometers when it comes to cpus and gpus?
>>51991099
People think it magically makes things ten times as fast but really it wont be a big improvement at all
>>51986131
who tf is actually vring though
>>51991099
>tfw when the nm shrinkage hit a wall because of heat generation
>>51991128
>>51991157
So I just looked it up and apparently it's so the electrons won't have to travel as far. Fucking lel. That sounds like the most bro science shit ever. Why in the fuck would that even matter when you're dealing with something small enough to be measured in nanometers?
>>51991192
because nanometers make the meters anon ;)
>>51991192
cuz electrons are slow
980ti here.
haha you're all poor.
>>51988799
>Nvidia cards does not do this.
That is bullshit. Maxwell can support async computing, but through software - not harware - implementation. It's telling that a GTX 980 Ti using a technically disadvantaged software-based async computing is slightly more powerful than a hardware async Fury X in every available DX12 benchmark.
>>51986074
If you like being cucked with 3.5/4 of what's advertised and having lower performance get the 970. Power consumption isn't really relevant, and I've heard that you can undervolt and downclock a 390 to 970 performance to significantly get rid of power consumption, either way power consumption doesn't really make a difference.
Sadly however, AMD OpenGL Drivers sucks donkey dick right now. So AMD is basically out of the question with Linux.
>>51986643
Why not wait for whatever gobblecock they're releasing in 2022?
>>51988920
>buying the first gen of a die shrink
Wait until the second iteration of Pascal comes out if you already have the current gen 28nm. History teaches us that cards get cheaper and stronger during the second or third iteration. By then your card will be on its last legs anyway and the boost in performance will be drastic.
>580 to 980 Ti
>HD6970 to Fury X
Which one will work better in Blender?
>>51992039
>Blender
>OpenGL
390
>>51992052
Thanks.
>>51991231
Card on head with timestamp
>>51988245
It means you're going to use Windows 10
>>51988799
what game senpai
Nvidia housefires lol
>>51991491
>software-based async computing is slightly more powerful than a hardware async
You're not worth a technical reply. Nvidia fakes async to keep you nvidia boys happy. I'm ok with that. They have to keep their base content. but its not true async computing, It's like saying their are drivers to make your i3 hyper thread like a i7 -=)
I got a question:
I have a 770 GTX 2gb with g-sync.
Cost me like 400 when it was released =/.
I got me a nice XB270HU bprz for 566 americanos.
Should I just get a 970 4gb or can I hold on to my 770 2gb for a little longer?
>I`m
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kill yourself
there's a dedicated ' character that's meant to be an apostrophe
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>>51995955
Lol who cares about thermals thats such a stupid argument anyways
>>51986074
390
>>51986074
>wat do
an hero
>>>/wsr/
>>51986074
I checked and herd that r9 390 > 970
You always can go gpuboss.com and check it side by side
>>51986074
If you want 3D, the 970. If you want to avoid making jews even more rich, the 390.
>>51991491
>but through software
No, anon. It can't.
>>51986074
Right now is the worst time to buy a new GPU, i'd put it off for a year.
nvidia: lol we lied about the 970 but buy it anyway because the only other choice is the slightly more powerful but vastly more expensive 980.
AMD: our cards have good performance per buck if you don't take into account the electrical bill, it's like pay half up front and half every other year in extra electricity
>>51999020
>No, anon. It can't.
http://wccftech.com/fable-legends-dx12-benchmark-results/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9659/fable-legends-directx-12-benchmark-analysis/2
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Fable-Legends-Benchmark-DX12-Performance-Testing-Continues/Results-1080p-Ultr
http://www.techspot.com/review/1081-dx11-vs-dx12-ashes/page3.html
And the 980 Ti somehow manages to stay ahead of the Fury X, even if it's by one frame per second
>Maxwell is capable of Async compute (and Async Shaders), and is actually faster when it can stay within its work order limit (1+31 queues). Though, it evens out with GCN parts toward 96-128 simultaneous command lists (3-4 work order loads). Additionally, it exposes how differently Async Shaders can perform on either architecture due to how they're compiled.
>Ok I won't make a new thread but I have similar problem. I'm building a new computer, and I can't decide to take a configuration with r9 380 or GTX 960. I checked gpuboss but it seems there isn't much of a difference, and they haven't done every test besides dx benchmarks. And the advantages of each card are as usual, amd has more units, memory and such and nvidia has more clock speed.
Ok, while I googled for an image, I found a review that convinced me r9 380 is the card to go. But what about processor?
>>51991144
Anyone who isn't a pleb
>>51999384
Always pair an AMD GPU with a Haswell or later Intel CPU. A Core i5 is best, an i3 is borderline acceptable if you're on a budget.
AMD CPUs do not pair very efficiently with AMD GPUs post GCN 1.1
>>51988038
The fury nano is a reference card, all partners make the same damn card, with its neat hybrid blower and open air fan. Look into one, I know they costs an asinine amount but for case thermal needs like an ITX build its perfect, so snoop around used deals on them.
>>51986074
>>51999399
I didn't even know that there's commercial VR hardware out there
>>51995955
nigga i run my 770 almost 15 hour a day at 80c and its still going strong and no performance loss
>>51986074
Tell me /g/
why are AMD cards so fucking long
>>51988176
DIABLO 12 is a long way away... Let us worry about D5 first.
>>52002243
More/larger fans=quieter operation. The MSI card just sucks when it comes to that though. G1 gaming card is pretty long too though.
>>51988204
no one would ever upgrade then
>>52002279
My case supports a maximum of around 265mm which rules out 390(x)
fugg
Guess I'll wait for next generation and get myself a fury (x)
>>51991023
Dont get the new pc yet because in the year 2030, they get a big speed boost. Best to wait bro.
It's actually smarter to wait for the next generation honestly
HUGE node upgrade(we skipped one) + HBM at the same time
>>52002350
It's only smart to wait if you're coming from a current gen card. Not something old like a 5870 that likely has problems playing most recent games at any decent settings. Something like a 380 might be a better purchase than a 390 though.
>>52002299
Define S master race. I have up to 450mm of space and the Sapphire 390 is only 305. My case still looks empty.
>>52002681
Your case is 3x as big as mine
mITX has it's downsides.
Although 267mm is a fullsize GPU length. AMD exceeds that.
You cant spell Windforce without the WIN baby.
How about this, fucking hang yourself Dipshit for posting this sameshit.
