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Old thread: >>51898054
>>51922322
interested in that piece of wood, i have a hhkb
>>51922433
who is this sperm worm
Still waiting on my goddamned microcontroller. My fault for ordering something from China way later than the rest of my parts, though.
Poorfag here
>>51922433
Where and when did you get the WYSE moogle set? Does anyone even sell them now?
when you scroll up and down on the screen it produced a cool effect on the picture of the keyboard
>>51923492
how many marijuanas have you had
![ZEN__2015-12-18_15_09_46[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/vipBvNF.jpg "ZEN__2015-12-18_15_09_46[1].jpg")
Just received a Royal Kludge RC930-87 (55g Topre clone) from China, along with some KBC PBT doubleshot keycaps. Pic related.
AMA
All these boring gray keyboards are so drab.
You should kawaiify™ your board.
>>51923492
Did you injected a marijuanas
>>51923492
????
>>51923585
beige is life. color is for the esc key.
I've got $200 to spend on a keyboard, should I buy a poker 3 and get some keycaps or get a $200 keyboard?
Why is the Apple Magic Keyboard the only keyboard with this layout?
>>51923881
Because it's a rubbish layout
Having Fn on the left is cancer.
Having uneven arrow keys is cancer.
Having to press Fn to access the arrow keys is cancer.
Having Fn where control is supposed to be on a shit tier board is cancer.
Not having control on the home row is cancer.
I think that just about nails it.
>>51923814
There's no keyboard worth $200. You could get a poker, decent caps, and a case for about $200, maybe even enough left over for a sleeved cable
Does this keyboard look mechanical guys?
>>51923881
proprietary trash
>RMS pic here
>>51923881
Because that layout is p caner 2bh sempai
>>51923928
pull a cap off
>>51923928
Judging by the rubber multimedia keys in the top right, I'd say no
>>51922322
>overpriced memedomes edition
>>51924155
Confirmed for never having tried Topre.
thinking about buying a new set of keycaps for my pok3r.
currently have all white. what color layout would /mkg/ suggest?
Can anyone recommend a wireless keyboard?
It seems like they all suck.
i like that pic oh pee
>>51924869
Roccat Sova
http://www.roccat.org/en-US/Products/Gaming-Keyboards/Sova/
>>51924994
That's a Cherry Mx wireless keyboard?
>>51925138
>Roccat
>Doesn't say switch type
Diagnosis: Kailh
>>51925169
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s3022pDI-I
@ 0:29
>>51923568
>ama
How many other topre boards did you try and how does it compare (typing experience)
Also are topre caps compatible ie can you change caps with some made for real topre
Can you turn the piece of shit LEDs completely off
>>51924994
k. that's cool and all, I guess, but it's not currently for sale.
Can anyone recommend a wireless keyboard? It seems like they all suck.
>>51925359
make one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfkFwIVqOPE
>>51925384
yeah, no.
>>51924869
HHKB w/ bluetooth conversion.
>>51924474
classic beige
>>51925447
>hhkb
Nice mongoloid arrows faggot
>mfw 300$ for this shit
>>51925447
That is way out of my budget even before I begin modifying it. I'm looking for a more practical solution.
Hey guys,
Do any of you have any cool mini usb cables for your keyboards? The ones I have in mind are those braided cables or the coiled ones.
Pics welcome.
>>51925359
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R49LIG0/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B00R49LIG0&linkCode=as2&tag=wireleshacknew-20&linkId=JM6W6CFEXTLJ7CVI
Anybody have a corsair rgb with blue switches?
I was thinking of getting one
>>51925799
Here is one with brown switches
http://www.amazon.com/Majestouch-Convertible-switch-FKBC104M-EB2/dp/B00R49LIGU/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1439599276&sr=1-4&keywords=Majestouch+Convertible+2
>there are people who actually buy artisan keycaps
>>51924869
Filvo Minila/Filco Majestouch Convertible 2
>How many other Topre boards did you try and how does it compare (typing experience)
Currently own:
Leopold FC660C (currently using this as the RK draws too much power for the Pi that I'm typing this on)
Realforce 23UB
HHKB Pro 2
Have owned:
Realforce 87UB (variable, sold 3 weeks ago)
Obviously not counting the buckling spring and Cherry boards I have had/borrowed.
Also, the one I have is the 55g model, as that's supposed to be closer to the real thing.
I've only used it for about 3 hours so far, but I'd say about 80% of the feel is there. There's definitely a reduction in key travel, thanks to the dental banding, but it does make it near silent. I don't like it, and will probably take it out when there is another GB on the foam dampening rings.
As for the tactility, just sitting here and mucking around with the FC660C and the RK I've realised that the tactility is actually pretty damn close, but there's a catch. If the keys are hit off-center, the tactile bump is less pronounced. In practice I think this leads the RK to feel softer than it actually is, but during my typing today at no point did I feel that there was inconsistencies in the weighting.
The reason for the above is, from what I've read, the spring being used for the resistance rather than the cup rubber.
>Also are topre caps compatible ie can you change caps with some made for real topre
Just checked, and yes and no. They fit, but the clips on the keycaps do not have enough purchase on the inside of the slider to stay put, so they rotate freely if you manipulate them.
On the subject of keycaps, I was able to pull the stock keycaps off with my fingers, which I haven't been able to do on any other boards. The KBC DS PBT keycaps I've replaced them with stay put though.
>Can you turn the piece of shit LEDs completely off
I'm not sure if I'm honest. I didn't try to when I received it and gave it it's first run, and the only solid review out there doesn't list a hotkey to do so.
>>51925830
I can almost forgive those who just rice their esc since it's not like you are always using it and its in top left meanig its not in your way when typing
But people who plaster all their f row with thick gummy skulls and shit should be lined up to a wall and shot.
Then you should bill the bullet used to shot them to their family.
>>51925830
it's art collecting, it's not about the money
>>51925868
Meant to respond to
>>51925294
Bloody Pi 2 web browser is slow as a semi powered by slugs, good thing browsing isn't what I bought it for
>>51925824
Are you a faggot? Get a normal k70, blue switches are good for typing but browns are better in my opinion
>>51925877
One or two artisans(ESC or WIN) matching theme is fine.
But the plastering of $400 keys is retarded. Especially when there is no theme or reason for theme.
>>51925824
if you're into gaming, avoid blues. you have to bring the key nearly to the top of the key stroke to reset those, which makes double tapping less than ideal. Brown switches will give you a tactile sensation and yet the reset is nearly right on top of the actuation, which means you don't have to bring the key all the way up to reset.
>>51925799
>>51925825
>>51925838
Wow. I had no idea there were wireless cherry mx keyboards. I can't believe I never noticed this.
>>51925887
Yes, keep telling yourself that. Don't allow yourself to acquire a sense of good taste and instead redefine it to fit whatever $40 piece of plastic comes up for sale next.
>>51923924
Uh Realforce? The build quality alone is worth the $200+ not to mention Topres are nice.
>>51925868
thanks for the detailed review.
>>51926248
No probs, any more questions just ask
There is a non-backlit version available btw
>>51926189
IMO the HHKB is worth more than a Realforce. You need to try one for a few weeks to really fall in love with the layout
>>51926189
>Realforce
it's closer to 300$ in Europe and the bezel around the keys is huge
>>51926274
>No probs, any more questions just ask
yeah I don't think the kludge is for me.
I'm the guy testing the novatouch and I'm wondering if I should return it to buy a realforce or a leopold fc660c, or keep it and rice it with a good pbt set.
I'm not considering the hhkb because as good as it may look, I'm coming from a poker2 and I'm kinda tired of fn+everything
Realforce was definitely worth the purchase for me.
Easily, hands down, the best keyboard I've ever used.
>>51926306
I don't really think there's enough of a difference between the Realforce and a Novatouch to bother. Can tell you now you'll get sick of the FC660C as it's F-key everything.
Unless you really want a cheap Topre board with backlighting yeah I'd avoid the Kludge
>>51926367
oh btw I paid 105€ for my novatouch, so it's not like "30$ less than a realforce or a leopold", more like 120$.
So yeah I'm conflicted. The leopold is more portable for sure... does it feel better than the NT? 100$ better?
guess I'll use this NT a couple days more
>>51925359
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mju3AmdoVhs
>>51926392
If you're looking for portability the HHKB will be the way to go. It's much lighter due to the lack of a metal plate and the only thing you gain with the FC660C is arrow keys and dedicated insert and delete.
I'd keep the Nova and put thick double shot PBT keys on it, and get some foam silencing pads in the next GB.
Fuck guys. I want a full size for under 100 that doesn't fall apart. Why is this so hard to find? Rk-9000? Lot of people saying it doesn't last. You guys care so much, I don't want to fuck up. What do I buy? Prefer mx red I think, but haven't tried any before
>>51926673
>the only thing you gain with the FC660C is arrow keys and dedicated insert and delete.
well fn+keys doubles up as home end pgup pgdown i think that is neater than going to look for them in the letter caps.
Also coming from blues I don't find the novatouch noise too be too much tobehonest
the thing with leopold is that the board+caps color combination don't really appeal me too much
>>51926820
>I want a full size for under 100 that doesn't fall apart.
cm quickfire xt.
>>51926851
Thank you, I've seen it. Better than the rosewill then? Can only find it with brown and blue mx. Blue is too loud for me, but brown doesn't seem to be very popular? Any reason?
>>51926909
>Better than the rosewill then?
you asked for sub 100, i think that is out of budget.
brown is not very loved because people say it feels like a grain of sand is stuck in the switch.
blues feel great but yeah hella noise.
Personally I've just recently converted to topre, there's no going back to cherry for me I fear.
>>51925904
>buying the shit 512 color version
>>51926846
The Fn layout on the HHKB is the same save for the insert, delete and arrows, but they're very cleverly located - see pic.
Want to treat myself with a new keyboard for playing some starcraft (casually I don't have a lot of time so it does not need to be something for hardcore gaming). What switches/keyboards would be best for RTS? Would appreciate some input as I don't know a lot about the topic and so far all I've found on google is creative bullshitting.
>>51927175
Reds are good for key spanking
>>51927165
>very cleverly located
>diamond arrows
who thought this was a good idea is beyond me
Does anyone know the name of those oldschool IBM Keycaps. They're polished black but also make use of some oranges for some of the command keys. The edges aren't sharp but more of a slight roundness.
Been trying for ages to find some, what I did find were limited run prints that i've since forgotten the name of.
>>51927175
If you want to feel a bump when you depress the key, choose browns or the slightly stiffer clears.
If you don't want to feel a bump when you depress the key, choose reds or the slightly stiffer blacks.
Some people say that the reds don't provided enough resistance and the prefer blacks. This anon is correct about blues switches >>51925942
They aren't for gaming and are more for professional writing/journalism.
test
>>51927203
I believe the keystyle is similar to pic related. The only difference is instead of the greyscale keys, the alpha numeric keys are polished black and the escape key is an orange.
>>51927233
That's... Beautiful. What is it?
>>51927233
like these ones?
>>51927233
>dat π key
>>51927233
I'm so hard right now.
>>51927233
>>51927233
seriously. where the fuck do I get those key caps?
>>51927262
Nah, I think the keycap style is different. It's spherical like >>51927233
>>51927260
Supposedly an old commodore keyboard. The user who hotwired it to a modern PC must have had tear away the identifying guts.
>>51927292
wat
>>51927217
Thanks a lot for the advice! I think I'm going to go for the reds then.
>>51927185
Sounds like great fun.
>>51927292
>dat filename
>>51927292
weirdest boner etc
>>51927316
Yeah look how the styles match up. That's just a keyboard taken out of the housing.
It's a vic, never seen one with the PI key that sits like that though.
>>51927360
what is the meaning of the front printed symbols?
looks like a stargate alien language, 2cool4me
>>51927233
I think you might be SOL for now on getting those keycaps. I've seen massdrops for them and limited run prints but they're always like 98 dollars and by the time I hear about them they've been expired three months.
>>51923928
I guessing you've never felt mechanical before.
if it doesn't feel better than most keyboards you've used, then no. but try pulling off a cap and posting the pic so we can tell you
>>51927314
this
>>51927233
Think I got a pic and a name for you.
Dolch Keycaps is the name I get back when I start digging around.
These things look sexy as fuck but holy shit are they ever expensive.
>>51925830
>artisan
>keycaps
kek
who do I have to kill for a dark (grey/black) front printed PBT (tkl is enough) set?
>>51927426
Here's another pic.
Dolch Colorway.
Aaaaand here's an active massdrop
>https://www.massdrop.com/buy/dsa-dolch-key-set
>>51927462
>Doubleshot, ABS plastic
I pass thanks
>>51927462
thanks doc
>>51927233
What is the name of those keycaps? What keyword do I need search for in order to find those?
>>51925899
that cable must be a pain in the ass
>>51927370
someone plz answer this
>>51927370
They look like hotkeys for tiling windows.
>>51927426
All that HDR makes the keys look way more polished than they are. If they were that polished i'd be satisifed and be totally down.
>>51927426 < before the club.
>>51927437 < after the club.
>>51927486
They are apparently a variant of a Commadore keyboard.
>>51927510
Could you feasibly apply your own polish material to them?
>>51927510
>< after the club.
that photo looks like full of noise, probably shot at high isos on a not so great camera.
I wouldn't trust that to be the truth.
>>51927504
there wasn't tiling windows back then though
>Everyone one says blues are shit for gaming
>Tfw I love them and have played 800+ hours of cs using them
>>51927526
Nigger if i'm going to pay 90 dollars for key caps they better show up fucking perfect.
how are tall keys to type on?
comfy? stressful?
Are there any comfier switches than MX Browns?
>>51927202
Don't knock it until you try it.
As you have your pinky on the Fn key your hand ends up on a very slight angle which makes them far easier to use than it seems.
>>51927341
Lol I meant spamming but spanking works a lot better
>>51927532
Should have said multi-pane terminals - aware that tiling window managers weren't even thought of back then.
Kinda figured it was for splitting a terminal a certain number of ways.
>>51927546
Blues are fine for gaming - Blackwidow was my first mech and it was good.
I just found that browns or reds suited me better
>>51927462
>>51927475
DSA caps are pretty thin too. Signature Plastics can't make double shot PBT so I usually stay away from them unless it's either blanks or dye-sub legends.
They do offer the retro styled SA profile which is thicker and kind of makes up for the cheaper ABS plastic. ...but I don't like the look of them.
>>51927233
I wish I could combine that key style with this color scheme.
>>51926820
>full size under $100
Unucomp Model M
I am tempted to return the novatouch merely based on the fact that it is ISO.
I mean if the big advantage over pure topre is keycaps compatibility, having iso means cuttin 50% off that.
>>51927609
I wouldn't go as far as saying DSA is "pretty thin", but they certainly are not thick.
They are also pretty high.qualiyy ABS that doesn't really wear fast like most other sets.
>>51927692
>doesn't really wear fast
dude for 90$ they should last 90 years
>>51925824
I have the vengeance k70 with blues and it feels awesome. I game regularly and have had no difficulty double tapping.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/104-Key-ANSI-Cherry-MX-Keyboard-Keycaps-Keycap-Set-Blank-Graphite-/111799456151?hash=item1a07c45197:g:2RIAAOSwwbdWJuz4
You think these keycaps are fine?
>>51922322
Cool meme, le 3pic master race!! xDFGH
>>51927712
>Material ABS plastic
run
>>51927546
This very much. Those who say blues are not for gaming are redditors who don't know what they're talking about, much like people who recommend browns as babby's first mechanical keyboard.
The difference in actuation and reset points isn't even 1mm. It's barely noticeable unless you're some professional double tapping gaymur.
>>51927721
What's that like?
What are some good keycaps then?
>>51927750
>What's that like?
like chinese plastic toys
>what's good
PBT
some pbt keys are so good they feel like wood
>>51927578
Comfiest switch = Topre
Smoothest switch = Reds
Finger cramp tier switch = Blacks + anything harder
Best tactile switch = Ergo Clear/Clear
Best tactile + sound switch = blues
Best when you want to sound like you're the hardest working motherfucker in the building but really you're just shitposting on 4chan and loving it switch = Buckling spring
>>51927771
I'd argue topre for best sound too.
>>51927764
I got some keycaps I don't remember from where, but unlike my other keyboards they feel textured and not totally smooth,which feels really good.
Does this have a name?
>>51927771
>Finger cramp tier switch = Blacks + anything harder
nigga i tried reds ,blues and black side to side, they feel the same except for the sound they make.
you should have finger exercises or something
>>51927800
yes pbt tend to have better texture, less smooth.
those might not be, but mighthats what they usually are like
>>51927812
Is it random? I don't see texture mentioned anywhere. I was surprised and these keys feel better than anything else I have
I seriously don't remember where I got them though and can't find any email receipt.
>>51927825
>Is it random?
well both abs and pbt can be either smooth or rough, depending on the set.
but since abs are cheaper they are more often smooth than not, and the opposite for pbt.
HHKB vs LEOPOLD FC660C
GO!
>>51927699
I have yet to see any SP DSA sets show actual wear to be honest.
>>51927771
Noice, is topre worth it really? To me it kinda seems like a glorified rubber dome.
>>51928168
It's not a "glorified rubber dome"
It's just a rubber dome.
>>51927771
blacks are man switches, maybe you should finger more women to strengthen the noodles attached to your hand
>>51928222
Neat.
$200 rubber domes.
>>51928271
>>51927807
Just because your gigantic ham fingers decimate everything in their path doesn't mean there's no legitimate differences between actuation forces. There's a noticeable change in resistance with a 35g, 45g, and 55g switch side by side.
What the fuck is electrostatic capacitive?
>>51927807
>>51928271
Confirmed for not having used them for any extended period of time. Your fingers get tired.
>>51928222
>>51928278
Bit more complicated than that.
The rubber dome is there for the tactile feedback, the whole switch mechanism is in the spring.
Additionally the rubber is a lot thicker, stiffer, and thicker composition to regular dome mats
Can disagree all you like but the fact is conical spring = mechanical
>>51928168
I'm biased as all the boards I currently own are Topre but yes, IMO they're worth it
They're sort of like MX clears but much smoother and quieter, with much more satisfying audible feedback
You get what you pay for with the Topre boards, but it may not be for everybody....
>>51928168
>Noice, is topre worth it really? To me it kinda seems like a glorified rubber dome.
Coming from mx cherry, first 10 seconds feel like a rubberdome.
Then, if you try a rubberdome you realize topre is what rubberdome should be, but isn't.
And mx cherry feels like a plastic toy from that moment on.
>>51928271
What about greens?
Who else here likes all the switches?
Do I have no standards?
>>51928168
too expensive to be "worth it" 2bh
there's no reason for them to be so over priced but the nips know baka gaijins will pay because skills market them so hard on cantonese flyfishing forums
seriously, though, you'd be happy enough with clears, it's basically the same
>>51928313
The spring in a Topre switch is measured for its' resistance.
Depressing the spring causes its' resistance to change, and therefore it will actuate based on the springs resistance, rather than an "on" or "off" position.
All Topre boards have been designed so the actuation point is exactly as the cup rubber collapses, but it doesn't need to be - as can be seen with the Royal Kludge I received today, you can actually change the resistance/actuation point, as in at what resistance point the key will trigger, to your liking
>>51928366
Never tried them personally save for on spacebars for blue boards. I'd imagine they're way too heavy; the only heavy switch I've tolerated was buckling springs, they felt far more satisfying than MX but unless you live and work by yourself they're annoying as fuck to all around you, so your M/Unicomp will gather dust.
>>51928421
>but unless you live and work by yourself they're annoying as fuck to all around you, so your M/Unicomp will gather dust.
Significantly more annoying than greens/blues?
>>51928430
You can mitigate the annoyance of blues and greens with o-rings. You don't have that possibility with M's.
>>51928430
Yes. It's closest counterpart in terms of noise would be a typewriter or an old POS machine.
I used a M (borrowed from a friend who found it on council clean up - why can't I find nice things) for three weeks and it drove my co-workers nuts. It would probably by my favorite switch outside of Topre, but for practicality sake I'd say Clears are probably second best.
>>51928531
What makes topre so good?
>>51928501
How different does it feel with rings though?
>>51928636
>What makes topre so good?
when you try it you think "this is what a keyboard should feel like, why aren't all keyboard made like this"?
honestly it's what you imagine a keyboard to feel like, except you usually sit at one and it's mushy piece of shit with shit keys and membranes.
also the sound. it's like cloppity clop of a horse on soft dirt, compared to the click clack of cherry mx (tactiles/clicky)
and the keys seem to "accompany" your fingers, sucking them when going down and pushing them up when going up.
Trying to decide between a Leopold FC900r and a topre keyboard. Which would I be better off with?
>>51928651
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MY3S288/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=3OQBYUY7X4YJ6&coliid=I1IQD4A07U6AZF#customerReviews
This one's topre right? Or which one would you recommend?
How is it compared to reds for gaming? Idk if I fully believe the best gaming switches meme though, seeing as it's been fine on greens for me
>>51928636
The bottom out is slightly "mushier", if that makes any sense. You shouldn't be bottoming out anyway.
>>51928666
you should buy the most expensive keyboard that you can afford and is not an hhkb.
this is the golden rule.
>>51928675
>This one's topre right?
yes, I'm typing on one at the moment.
it's the only topre keyboard you can mount all those fancy keycaps you see around, by the way.
I don't game.
xth for posting the same exact pic of my keyboard because it never changes
>>51928703
>no room for wrists
>>51928708
my desk, chair, and monitor is at the proper height so that i am not un-ergonomically resting my wrists on anything
carpal tunnel syndrome is serious business
>>51928636
Honestly >>51928651 hit the nail on the head
My only gripe is that they aren't very customisable, and if you want to do so it costs big bucks. The boards I can justify, the super expensive rice I cannot
>>51928697
>it's the only topre keyboard you can mount all those fancy keycaps you see around, by the way.
Because of the switches design or keycap size?
>>51927840
>>51927825
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vortex-108-White-PBT-Doubleshot-Translucent-Backlight-Cherry-MX-Keyset-Keycaps-/272071586275?hash=item3f58baf1e3:g:0pkAAOSwiLdWBCc3
Found the keycaps I have I think, still no idea where/when I got them though
They're really comfy, and yeah they're PBT.
>>51928738
So should I just get a novatouch?
>>51928743
Slider design.
Topre keycaps are clip fit to the inside of a tubular slider while MX stems friction fit onto a + shaped stem
The Nova combines them by having the + shaped stem inside the sliders
>>51928791
>The Nova combines them by having the + shaped stem inside the sliders
btw the novatouch IS NOT compatible with topre keycaps.
>>51928780
If I were in the market for a board that was well built and provided a great *typing* experience and had little frills, definitely. I would also suggest a HHKB and FC660R depending on what you want - discussion on that earlier in thread.
If you are looking for a gaymen board with multiple macros, backlighting, programmable etc I would look at a Royal Kludge (Topre clone, see my first impressions earlier in the thread) or a Cherry board.
>>51928808
I thought they were, but started having my doubts when I was trying to fit Topre caps to my royal kludge earlier. I stand corrected
>>51928842
I can deal with no numpad but no f keys or arrow keys is too much and silly.
I have 4 keyboards, blacks, greens, blues and browns, all full sized, I enjoy all but prefer greens the most I think.
I was thinking of getting reds just to complete the basics, but now I'm not sure if I should get topre/clear/red/buckling
I think I'll get topre regardless it sounds interesting.
>>58719997
You Canucks love posting, don't you?
>>51928842
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013YHXP98?keywords=Royal%20Kludge&qid=1450447230&ref_=sr_1_2&sr=8-2
This, or what?
>>51928939
If your favorite switch now is green it sounds like you'll be better served by BS than Topre (80g Green vs 75g BS vs 45g Topre)
>>51928971
I'm not necessarily looking for something close to greens, topre seems interesting
I feel like I need some switch tester with like 20 different things... but they usually just have the basics
>>51928962
If it is the Topre clone you seek, the model is RC930-87 (mine is a 55g RGB backlit variant).
Unaware of distributors in the US for that model but I know you can get them from jd.com and Taobao. I got mine from Taobao
>>51929012
It says they're ￥549.00 isn't that like 5$
>>51928991
Switch testers will just make matters worse.
Unfortunately you can't get a feel for each switch without typing on a full board of them, for a few days, and then chopping and changing. I took to Topre straight away as I was using clears beforehand, but buckling spring and blues definitely took me a few days to love
>>51929055
How do Topre compare to browns, and how do both compare to clears? I only tried browns
>>51929039
It was close to $100 AUD for me IIRC, so it should be sound $60USD
GMK SNES is up on Massdrop. 500 MOQ.
>>51929039
not yen
>>51929081
Much more tactile feedback from both of them.
Topre has a much smoother bump and bottom out, clears have a similar actuation feel to the Topre but have a harsh bottom out just like the browns
>>51929119
Lol yeah, it's CNY
>>51929117
looks like ass
expecially with those fake arrows and colored keys in the letter caps
>>51929148
What does harsh bottom out mean ?
>>51929117
looks pretty nice and I'd get it. But I really want to try a 55g Topre, so my budget is kinda spent already.
>>51929175
When you bottom out on Topre there's rubber, a spring and PCB all mounted on a plate to soften the bottom out.
On the MX switches you're bottoming out at the bottom of the plastic switch so it's harsh in comparison
Probably buying this and going back to the JIS layout soon. Long story short, I switched from a Filco JIS layout to a HHKB and while I like the HHKB I just miss the JIS layout too much. Also, the HHKB spacebar is abnormally loud in contrast to the rest of the keyboard, but the rest of the keyboard itself sounds great though. I then realized that the JP layout has a PBT spacebar due to its size.
Has anyone else gone from Pro 2 to Type-S here? I wonder what's in store for me.
>>51929324
is ther a non type-s of the jis?
people say type-s doesn't feel better than original
Are Unicomp buckling keyboards compatible with cherry keycaps or what?
>>51929251
Oh, never minded that but I'm interested in trying topre.
>>51929355
Nope they have their own dual layered caps
>>51929422
K95 in background
>SHIGGY DIGGY
>>51929426
Are there a lot of custom ones available or is it basically not moddable?
>>51929439
seems like you
>can't into memearrows
>>51929446
>basically not moddable?
basically.
Some people managed to dye-color their caps.
>>51928168
Topre completely outperforms any Cherry switch for me.
>>51922433
>>51922433
Make/model?
![thumb_pdkb420b_l[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xWpHLHf.jpg "thumb_pdkb420b_l[1].jpg")
>>51929346
>non type-s of the jis?
Yep. Also comes in this colour. But I can actually get the JP Type-S for around the same price as a non-Type-S is brand new, so I don't see why not.
>>51929553
are you aware the keys are less staggered than standard?
that might come as a shock to your muscle memory.
>>51929578
I don't see what you mean, but I used pic related for 6 years so I think I'll be ok.
>>51929656
check the position of the M (under and) between J and K.
What colour keycaps go well with blue backlighting?
Have £30 to spend on random junk, wanted to get some nice caps for gaymin keys
>>51929690
>backlighting
>gaming
you need to be 18+ to post on 4chan
![4N7bZ60[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/18M7vtl.jpg "4N7bZ60[1].jpg")
>>51929682
Maybe it's just that photo? I'm sorry, I still don't see it.
>>51929774
And somehow Ducky keyboards are popular here. /g/ is full of hypocrites.
>>51929774
>Mommy, his tastes aren't the same as mine!
>>51929779
>Maybe it's just that photo? I'm sorry, I still don't see it.
>>51929981
Oh, I get you. I don't think it will be an issue for me though.
>>51925237
I'm surprised.
endgame right here
>>51927665
Only DSA dolch as far as I'm aware.
>>51927564
I like 'em.
>>51927771
>Smoothest switch = Reds
If you ignore Gaterons.
>>51923918
you don't have to press the fn key to use the arrow keys. But I agree, the keyboard layout itself is shit regardless. Even though the keys are not bad themselves, pretty good rubber domes.
>>51930767
>pretty good rubber domes.
pretty fucking sure those are scissor switches.
Just ordered this. WASD V2 with MX Clears. How did I do?
>>51930782
Scissor switches are stabilised rubber domes, I guess is what he means.
>tfw no aristotle zealio yet
Why live?
>>51930819
>Not barebones
Poorly.
Just applied the form to return my ISO novatouch.
I will probably save some money and buy me a leopold fc660c down the road.
topre is best, it will be a pain returning to cherry mx in the meantime.
>>51930844
>poorly because he isn't autistic enough to need to put his own caps on
Bruh
>>51930889
The stock caps are shit and you chose to pay for them.
>>51930890
Wrong person, but you could say the same about the stock M2 caps. Doesn't mean someone did poorly just for the caps.
>>51930819
wasd kycaps
kek.
The keyboard is great, but you should buy without caps.
>>51923801
Simply sexual my man
>>51930895
But with the WASD you have the rare opportunity to choose not to pay for them. Why would you waste that?
>>51930895
Well, they dont sell majestouches without caps.
>>51930782
Scissor switches are rubber dome.
>>51923881
the main keyboard shortcuts on osx use the CMD key, so the fn key is actually placed in a fine place
i find it nicer to use my thumb (cmd key) to do keyboard shortcuts on OSX than control on windows personally
>>51930844
>>51930899
Cancelled and am about to order barebones. Where should I buy caps from? I had thought WASD did PBT but I guess I was wrong.
>>51931131
They have a set of rebranded tai-hao pbt, if memory serves.
Entry-level sets would be Vortex double-shot PBT and Ducky laser-etched PBT. Of course if you can touch-type, there are lots of options in blank sets over at GeekKeys. Just make sure to avoid pad-printed legends and thin caps. Usually you want PBT over ABS, but quality ABS wins out over cheap PBT.
>>51927233
FFWWWAAARRRRRRRRKKKK
>>51930514
I am hard
>>51927233
>>51927260
>>51927262
>>51927272
>>51927279
>>51927292
>>51927314
>>51927418
>>51927316
>>51927386
>>51927426
>>51927486
>>51927665
I found this on Ebay. The keycaps seem to be very similar.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amiga-A1200-keyboard-original-used-condition-see-photos-31-/141808154732?hash=item21046cb86c:g:FlYAAOSw9mFWJ3pQ
>>51931213
Where do I have a hope of finding some decent entry level, blank key sets that don't cost 1 million dollars in Canada?
>>51932340
exchange your 1 million Canadian for 20 usd
>>51932340
I'm Canadian too and the two sets I have are white Gateron PBT from GH and blue/grey etched Ducky PBT from MD. Neither are running right now.
>>51927233
>>51932130
Commodore CBM 610
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_CBM-II
>>51932415
>>51932415
>>51932460
You're doing the Lords work, my son.
Clears, browns, or blacks? I have been using browns for the past two years and I feel like a change. Been wanting clears for quite a while for the more noticeable bump, but am also considering blacks in case there is a noticeable difference between browns and blacks.
Which would I be better off with as a light gamer and a heavy typist? I live in a dorm, so blues/greens are not an option.
>>51932937
the bump on clears isn't any more noticeable than browns. The only difference is that clears will feel stiffer and harder to depress.
>>51932937
If you go black, you'll lose the tactile sensation.
>>51932937
>Which would I be better off with as a light gamer and a heavy typist?
Browns or Clears
Just changed around some of the colors a bit. While lighting is limited, the keyboard is so fucking sexy. 9 different switches and 6 different ways to light.
>>51932937
i like browns - very light feel
my daily driver now has matias quiet clicks though (ALPS clone switches)
>>51932976
Clears have a different slider than brows with a larger tactile bump.
>>51922494
Are those custom printed caps? W2C?
>>51933162
>printed
http://deskthority.net/wiki/R5_leftovers
>>51927233
>>51932415
>>51932460
Those keycaps are beautiful.
>Leopold is 219$ on mechanicalkeyboard.com
>shipping to eu is 12$
>customs are 4€
>20% VAT is 46€
Grand total: about 288€
Holy shit kill me now
>>51934108
I'm not sure that adds up.
