>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones
>Previous thread:
>>51827335
HD600 > your headphones
Should I buy a Sennheiser Urbanite for 99 euros?
Looking for something to replace my old MDR v55.
I'm not an audiophile, just looking for something that I can carry around and that will last 1 or 2 years of light use.
>>51845781
On-ear?
Seems okay for that price, really bass heavy.
>>51845736
>>51845781
>>51845798
>samefagging this hard
>>51845736
but what about my hd601?
>>51845820
The posts:
>>51845736
>>51845798
are me.
Fuck off beyerkek.
>>51845798
I tried a circumaural Bose a few days ago, and it was great, but I can't find a nice model for ~100 euros, so I guess that on ear is ok.
It doesn't bother me that much on my sony.
>>51845853
Well I did like the build quality and comfort but the sound didn't appeal to me on the Urbanite so maybe you'll like it.
>>51845171
Are there any /g/ approved wireless IEMs? I picked up a pair on a whim when the left speaker in my IEMs died, thinking "Maybe this will be the time I make the switch"
But oh my god are they ever shit.
>>51845899
LG Tone, tuned by Harman.
Are these as good as the Portapro? They're a lot cheaper.
>>51845899
http://www.amazon.com/LG-Infinim-HBS-900-Wireless-Headset/dp/B00NW2JBYO/
>>51845965
Same drivers, same sound quality.
I also think they look better and are less goofy.
>>51846001
>not liking the looks of the Porta Pro
I can see that, though I think they look kinda cool.
I've noticed the Sportapro isn't open backed. Would that make a difference in sound?
>>51846052
Yeah, but not much of a difference in the PortaPro/SportaPro's case.
should I buy k701 or the k267 on massdrop for $130?
>>51846136
How much are you paying for the K701, it's the better buy IMO.
>>51846155
Just under 200 american buckaroos, or £130
>>51846262
I would get the K701, be aware they're a bit hard to power.
Also they've been revised, ensure you receive the latest revision that doesn't have bumps on the headband.
>>51846281
Please could you highlight how to differentiate the latest revision?
I'll have no issue powering it, the pic in my OP is the amp that I built.
>>51846316
Pic is the new revision, will post the older revision afterwards.
>>51846333
And here is the older revision, notice the bumps on the headband? Many find them uncomfortable and AKG removed it.
>>51846355
I see, cheers familam
>>51846333
Made in China
>>51846355
Made in Austria
Just something to keep in mind
>>51846136
If you really like treble rape and artificial sound that much, you should go for the K702, which grants audible bass at least.
>>51846378
There is no difference between the ones made in Austria and China, AKG's driver matching is also the best when compared to its competitors like DT880 and HD600.
>>51846383
K702 is a K701 with a detachable cable, different color scheme and features no headphone stand.
>>51846383
Stick to your mud cans sennshill. I already know you've never heard good earphones.
I want beyershills to leave
>>51845736
Proof?
>>51846400
Yes, but it has a bit of bass, while K701 are just robotic mids and ear raping treble. Moreover K702 doesn't require a Pink Floyd amp to be driven properly.
>>51846404
Mids are all that matters in music after all.
>>51846435
Why are you making me regret buying a dt880
>>51846531
beyer's remorse kicking in
>>51846453
Honestly to my eyes the dt880 looks the best, seconded by X2, and sennheiser third due to poor sub bass
>>51846538
why
>>51846482
Pic related it's you
DT880 has massive distortion, avoid like the plague.
>>51846616
Prove that it's audible.
I have sony mdr 1r
I wanna buy hd600. Will there be any increase in sound quality produced by hd600 compared to sony? I also just plan to plug it into my laptop audio out and listen to rock/metal and some electronica
Pls be gentle cus I am noob and know nothing about headphones
>>51846630
What soundcard does your laptop have?
HD600 might need an amp.
The ATH-PRO700mk2 is cheaper than the M50-X. Has anyone compared the two?
>>51846630
HD600 doesn't work for the music you like because it lacks bass and it needs an amp to sound good. Get a Fidelio X2, which is cheaper, and be happy for the rest of your life.
>>51846670
HD600 has accurate bass, X2 has boomy bass.
>all this shitposting
>>51846651
Via hd audio
>>51846697
>HD600 has accurate bass
>>51846697
Ok, thank you for the unbiased opinion, Franz.
>>51846670
Would a portable amp like fiio e17 be enough for hd600?
>>51846776
Yes.
>>51846776
Maybe not, and still it wouldn't add bass anyways. Would you enjoy listening to your music without hearing bass clearly? I think this is the question you should ask yourself before buying HD600 (and generally any other open Sennheiser).
>tfw hd600 owner
>tfw these are the best headphones I own
>tfw recommend shit like dt880 and x2 to anons
>tfw I shitpost against hd600
>tfw watching these anons buy their shit headphones
>tfw watching the buyers' remorse kicking in and shitposting
>>51846815
Reverse-shilling huh? Clever.
>>51846815
> tfw retarded delsuional Sennshill
> tfw these are the inly headphones I own
> tfw I have buyer's remorse
> tfw I shitpost against HD600 to conceal my remorse and persuade myself that I made a good choice after all
Fixed it for you, anon.
I just sold my 598s today. I'm gonna miss them. ;_;
My new goal headphones are HE-560s, but I'm not going to sell my HD600s when I get them. They're just too good.
>>51846854
It must feel great to listen to Jackson and Daft Punk on the HD600, considering their immense bass detail and punchiness.
>>51846854
Careful you get called a shill, any positive mention of Sennheiser here makes you a sennshill
>>51846881
>>51846885
People have admitted to shilling for Sennheiser. The mods do nothing about it.
>>51846854
Good taste in anime and headphones but shit taste in music.
>>51846923
>thin headphones with shit tier paint jobs
>good taste
Why can't no one admit some headphones do better things that others but at the same time they aren't perfect? Is it so hard to grasp this?
>>51846970
Because most of the people here are either Sennshills or Beyerkeks.
is $220 a good price for an used hd650 with 200 hours?
>>51846943
Are you retarded?
>>51847007
no
>>51846970
Because we paid a fortune for them and buyer's remorse is a bitch.
Bass is the bigger HD600 weakness, though. It's not awful, it just isn't fun at all.
>>51847007
No.
>>51847007
Even if they were new, they would be overpriced for 220$.
>>51846616
Can you show hd600 and x2?
>>51847052
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD600.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/PhilipsFidelioX2.pdf
>>51847073
Screenshot pls on phone
>>51847092
>his phone can't read PDF
L E L
>have ATM50x
>want more headphones even though I know I don't need another
>>51846808
I bought wirelesss over the ear senheisser for my mum (dont know model but it was with transmitting station and cost me around 150€) and it was the best sounding headphones that I have tried.
>>51847132
> wireless
> best sounding headphones
My condolences for your mum.
AD2000x ($500) vs AD1000x ($300) vs HiFiman He400i ($500)
which ?
>>51847164
>90db
>100db
>>51847102
Lel kek top hat it can, couldnt just be arsed, still did it
>>51847023
> It's not awful, it just isn't fun at all.
Nice way to say it's not audible.
>>51846850
Oh look, it's another victim of my elaborate ruse.
>>51847169
HE400i
>>51847234
Nope, I can definitely hear it. It just doesn't shake my head off like I want it to sometimes.
>>51847236
> elaborate
No wonder that the HD600 sound good to you.
>>51847260
But the AD2000x is the flagship. Measurements and raisns?
>>51847228
The HD600 on innerfidelity is a dud.
Have a look at the HD580 which uses the same driver.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD580wHD600headband.pdf
It destroys the DT880 and Fidelio X2.
>>51847273
Then it's awful.
>>51847222
90 dB is safe for 2h30m of continued listening and if the music has sufficient dynamic range, 100 dB peaks are plausible.
>>51847228
Honestly looking at graphs the x2 looks the worst, but everybody says they sound better. Probably reading graphs wrong but the others look smoother, except for impulse response on beyer
>>51847284
So basically you're admitting that sennheiser has no quality control?
>>51847296
It's roughly on the same level as the DT880 for quality control.
>>51847308
lol
>>51847284
Seems to be, but many sennheisers come like that, see golden ears for example
>>51847334
Same for the DT880. Beyershills cherrypick for their arguments.
http://en.goldenears.net/11302
Sennshills like myself are honest, just like the HD600.
>>51847356
>Sennshills like myself are honest, just like the HD600.
Beyershills distort the truth just like their headphones >>51846616
>>51847356
So X2 confirmed best? Even Tyll thinks so
>>51847391
Please learn English before posting.
>>51847391
Apple/Beats has a good warranty, you should be able to send it in.
>>51847395
Yes it really is. It's the only open headphone for less than 400$ that grants punchy, rich and detailed bass without sacrificing much in the other frequencies. Unless what you exclusively listen to are flutes and cymbals, X2 should always be taken into account.
>>51847551
Uplifting to hear, here take look at this norwegian beaut
>>51847582
thank you anon, you've just made my night merrier :)
>>51847551
It's boomy, muffled, shit with peaky treble.
aint gonna lie, yall motha fuckas make me get into this general by clicking on that big tittied thick anime girl
i dont even own earphones
>>51847582
>Pretty face
>Huge tits
>No ass
She's the physical personification of Sennheiser.
>>51847444
Ok thanks,
I will try
>>51847617
You're good at reading graphs
If you'd be forced to recommend me a portable/mobile amp that would jew all the shekels out of my wallet but still be a solid option on the go what would you recommend?
>>51847675
Little Dot MK IV
>>51847675
wouldn't jew all the shekels*, oops
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-open-back-headphones-under-500/
Fidelio X2:
>the bass sounds a little boomy to us
>treble sounds a little too sizzly
>bass tends to overshadow the spaciousness that those open-back drivers should be delivering
What are you listening fegits? HD 800 and this stuff I just discovered.
>>51847707
wow! What an absolutely enlightening, deep and accuarte reveiw! I think I'm going to send my X2 back to Amazon and get a super Hifiman 400S to enhance my audiophile's needs!
>>51847169
Wait for the 400i to go to $300 again and get them.
>>51847765
Why are HD800 owners such weebs?
>>51847169
HE-400i
I wouldn't even consider those others.
>>51847812
Are we?
why does my mouth taste like when you stick a finger up your ass hole to test if you wiped correctly and lick it but there was some shit left over after drinking sweet tea?
>>51847897
because Fidelio X2.
>>51847897
>>51847909
Good review.
>>51847622
I actually laughed
>posting from my sennheisers
>DT 990 Pro 250 Ohm
>sounds muffled on Xonar D1
>can't hear the trebble people are complaining about
>sounds great on Mac mini
>can hear the trebble but
Is this the effect of source impedance? (Xonar D1 is 100 Ohm, Mac mini is 10 Ohm)
Should I add an amp to the Xonar D1 or just get a DAC?
>>51848019
Jumping from one source to another won't simply change the fact that the DT990 sound horrible. Move on and get a decent open headphone.
>>51848064
And what's that, HD600? Don't make me laugh.
>>51848019
Amp the Xonar D1, ignore the poster above, DT990 is V-shaped, not everyone enjoys it.
Considering getting the HF5s since I don't really have enough for the E4s, and I want something that will last me more than a year. Plus I can get a 4-year warranty where if anything breaks they just send me a new pair.
Anybody have experience with them (the HF5s)/Etymotic in general?
>>51848116
>HD600
but anon, HD600 is the best full-sized headphone in production for its accurate sound quality
>>51848064
it's lacking some mids, but it's way better than the "nothing-but-mids" HD 558 I had before.
>>51848019
Yeah it's the impedance/power. It's an amp related issue. Get a FiiO or if you can buy the o2
>>51848128
>Anybody have experience with them (the HF5s)/Etymotic in general?
Yeah, it's quite neutral, no harsh or sibilant treble, flat bass and mids, treble is a bit rolled off. Good stuff. Lots of tips, never found them uncomfortable.
>>51847812
Headphones and weebs have a huge overlap. I know part of the reason is K-On (the K-701 hype helped get me into this stuff too), but there has to be more to it.
>>51848143
loving this meme
>>51848019
>>51848160
>get told an hour ago an DT 880 250ohm wouldn't need an amp with a Xonar D1
>now people are talking about amping it
>I got lied to
Welp, time to go buy that fiio amp.
>>51848116
>>51848157
Why do you Beyerkeks immediately think about Sennheiser when anyone say that your headphones are brutal? Is this some sort of inferiority complex or were you violated in your childhood?
>>51848222
It's beyersremorse.
>>51848128
Buy the KZ: ED9's from ali express they are incredibly cheap and the best IEM's I have ever heard, you also get two changeable brass nozzle types, one of them adds more bass.
Are the MEE M6 Pros good for the price?
What are some good IEMs for around $60?
>>51847791
Fuck, hifimans do sound better according to /audiophile/ gods
>>51848222
>Compare two headphones through personal experience
>Voice opinion
>Get diagnosed with inferiority complex
>>51848365
Let him be, he can't deal with people liking other things.
>>51848341
I really like them, bought them as a beater and I was pleasantly surprised with the ergonomics, durabilty and accessories. It's better than the regular M6 in sound quality but it's still V-shaped in its frequency response, not my preferred sound signature but it sounds far superior to the more expensive SE215.
Are there any deals running on bookshelf speakers right now? I'm looking to spend about ~$100, just need the speakers themselves
>>51848254
How do they matchup with the piston 3s?
>>51848479
JBL LSR305
>>51848517
Well meme'd.
>>51848517
>>51848588
Who do I believe
>>51848517
Literally reddit: the speaker.
>>51848517
KRK Rokits are better
Is the e11 (a3) worth it over the e6 or not really and should I just keep the money? Looking for something that I can carry around and still sounds good
>>51848705
E6 is sort of cheaply made, I would get the E11
What are some good headphones for $20-$40?
>>51848780
Is it just the build quality that blows and is the sound quality similar or is sound quality what suffers from it being cheaply made?
>>51848833
Superlux HD668B if you want neutral, HD681 Evo if you want bass
>>51848833
You can essentially only get decent earbuds at that price, piston 3s
>>51848847
Just the build. E6 is a simple circuit that does what it claims on the cheap and small.
>>51848885
alright thanks
>>51848833
>>51848864
668B is deliberately V-shaped.
Samson SR850 is really good for around $30 but I heard the price went up.
>>51848864
>>51848868
Thanks for the suggestions. Thinking of getting the Evo and trying it out.
>>51849026
Oh yeah, forgot about the SR850. It's more expensive than the 668B, but the headband is more comfortable and the pads are better iirc. I'd say it's worth it.
>>51849070
It's $50 on amazon so I'd say forget it.
It's a rebranded HD681.
Just ordered these, how'd I do?
I'm typically dressed in Raf Simmons or Rick Owens
>>51849131
>remote and microphone
>"premium"
Not so good, mang
>>51848479
Get scythe kro craft rev b for 50$. They sound insane, even my dads 100$ JBL speakers sound like garbage due these having expensive as fuck HiVi drivers. Watch the zeos review and google these.
>>51849161
Got a pair of these, can confirm they sound damn impressive for €60.
>>51849161
And no need for a subwoofer, bass is deep for rock and metal, but not rap/edm. Also the directonality is insane, its like listening to expensive headphones, they sound very alive. Google some reviews and get hyped because they live up to it.
>>51849161
>Watch the zeos review
Please no. Can't you just describe it yourself?
>>51849161
>>51849187
>zeos
>opinions over measurements
we reddit now
>>51849187
Top lel I paid 43€. Building a 5.1 system from these. Fucking rad.
Just gonna nigger it and connect two of these in the center channel and make a 6.1 though.
>>51849195
>>51849202
I did. But yeah the sound alive and amazing, especially for the price. Good for classical, instrumentals and vocals, but not edm or rap(well add a woofer and youre done) Compared to what you get at that price is utter fucking trash. In europe you have to go to almost 150€ to get similar sound sq according to lists.
>>51849202
They sound very clear for the price. Seriously, this is one of the things Zeos is right about.
>>51849223
How did you get it for 43?
>>51849161
>Watch the zeos review
Get the fuck outta here.
>>51849271
And as computer speakers, no pair even comes close, not even my old expensive creatives. Fuck, get em while they last.
>>51849271
>good for vocals
>not good for rap
You're contradicting yourself.
>>51849290
At amazon. Dunno, got a good deal, it was around black friday. Brand new unopened. One good thing at least compared to my new amp that was shipped broken... At least I had my back up stereo one....
>>51849317
He means they're not very bass-heavy. Sure, it's there, but it's not their main focus.
>>51849317
>thumping nigger bass
Well they extend to 50-60hz if i remember. Youll get bass, but not enough to blow your doors off or your mind. You really need that 20-30hz for dat rap broseph. Or for movies
>>51848410
Wow really? That's great, considering they're pretty affordable, they'd pretty much be my fist good pair of headphones.
Anything else in that price range you'd recommend?
>>51849358
Who are you quoting?
>>51849358
Uhh 50-60 hz at -20db sure.
post yfw the anime thread won
>>51849161
Got another recommendation? Shipping to US is the same price as the speakers
>>51849364
No, they're really good to recommend to others, I like other IEMs more than the M6 Pro, but the sound signature will appeal to many people.
>there are people here right now who think there's specific coloration suitable for a genre of music
>>51849406
Cant be bought on us amazon? Well shit. Uhh pioneer sb22 or something like that, theyre the best sellers on speakers. But yeah dunno really. These just perform so well for less than 50€...
>>51849432
Coloration? No the speakers dont have the frequency range to present everything for bass oriented music. Rock is not focused on bass. Rap is and edm or what u youngins listen to
>>51849463
They're only on the UK site and free shipping only applies to UK orders. Thanks, I'll check those out.
>>51849501
>Rock is not focused on bass.
>>51848484
Funnily enough the p3's were the best I had ever heard a few weeks earlier and I still love them but I have honestly put them away in favor of the KZ's, with the non bass nozels at least they are cleaner sounding, I handed them to my brother to test quickly compared to the p3's without saying anything and he said straight away that the kz's were better/cleaner after trying a studio ghibli piano song and a modern rap song on both. They are both great but the KZ's are better.
What does /g/ think of the Sennheiser Momentum?
>>51849501
Yeah if you are on a poorfag budget and can't get something with decent extension, it might be a thing to consider.
>>51849639
I like the comfort, style and ergonomics. Not a fan of the sound but most people will like it, it's warm sounding.
>>51849661
I have an HD 202.
Compare to the sound quality of that, is it improved or lacking?
Currently deciding between the following pairs:
X2
Hd650
Mr. Speakers Mad Dogs
HiFiMan He-400i
Q701
K7xx
What is /hpg/'s recommendation?
>>51849639
Awful sound quality.
Might as well get Beats if you want to be fashionable.
hey senpai, I was thinking of getting my dad a headset for the gym. Here's what he wants (he has a hard time hearing highs so he wants something not bassy) any help?
Budget: under $100
Source: use with phone
Type: over ear
Comfy level: just nothing painful on the top of head
Preferred tonal balance: NOT bassy - more bright/clear highs
>>51849694
HD650.
>>51849710
This is a hard one, let me think.
>>51849696
Okay as I said here >>51849686 , what's better than HD 202 but on the cheap side?
>Budget
400usd or so I could spend some more.
>Location
USA
>Source
O2+ODAC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Don't really care.
>Comfort level
Wearing them for 3-4 hours at a time.
>Preferred tonal balance
I want to clearly hear what they are saying, but dont want to give up all the bass. So I guess the nearest thing to that is neutral.
>Preferred music
Reggae. Rap sometimes.
>>51849686
It's about the same, but far more comfortable.
I have the HD202, the earcups are too small, note that you have the 2nd gen Momentum pictured which has larger earcups.
>>51849742
HD600
>>51849742
Sennheiser HD600, or HD650 for more bass.
Is Sennheiser a meme here?
>>51849733
NVX XPT100
>>51849742
HE400i
>>51849828
why would you make this post?
what an awful post
>>51849731
would appreciate the help if you find any good solutions for a headset
>>51849694
HD 650
>>51849742
HD 650 again. HD 600 would be fine too but HD 650 has more bass if that's what you like.
>>51849854
Damn anon a lot of reviews say the Sound Quality is superb; lows to highs.
I might look more into this.
Coloud The Pop, $19. Y / N ?
>>51850150
aw YEAH NIGGA
>>51849828
If by meme you mean they consistently make the best products that measure well, then yes Sennheiser is a meme.
>>51850238
>consistently measuring well
cmon man, after this thread you cant post that. you can post that they sometimes measure well the channel balance is ridiculous a lot of the time
>>51850277
HD650 has excellent top tier channel matching
http://rinchoi.blogspot.com/2013/08/sennheiser-hd650.html
>>51849694
HD650 or HE-400i, the rest are garbage.
the shilling is unreal in this thread
>>51850371
theres quite the difference between "hd650" and "sennheiser"
of all their products, i would agree with you most on the hd650. good work.
but even then its not VERY good, its just pretty good
>>51846854
how different are the hd600 and 598 really?
>>51850518
The difference is 2.
>>51850447
What shilling?
>>51850518
598s are entry level, or "lowfi". 600 is where you begin your journey into midfi territory, though some would argue it even belongs in hifi as it's quite neutral. well, i dont see its neutrality much from the fr graph, but theres no doubt about how well received it is and the reasoning these people would use.
but to me, real hifi comes from neutral orthos or electrostats
>>51850567
we should write a book about this man. title it, "the man who lost his eyes". it will be a long, arduous tale of him not being able to read anything as he posts endlessly on boards because he is also a genius that was able to develop ai that can pass the captcha every time. too bad no one cared what he says, cause it seems like he cant read what others are saying
>>51847707
>wirecutter
why the fuck have people been posting this? the site literally regurgitates memes from forums that "know" about specific topics (headphones, TVs, monitors, cameras). it's the reddit of list sites.
>>51850600
>neutral orthos or electrostats
They aren't made. Hi-fi is pretty much EQ though.
>>51850600
This post is fucking stupid. Let me explain why.
Firstly HD598 is almost as neutral as the HD600, to classify it as low-fi or whatever is just plain fucking stupid. Compared to most headphones on the market, the HD598 beats them at accuracy, and that's what fidelity is: accuracy, thus it should be called high-fi if you're using such a system for headphones. But no, you're a retard that's classifying them by price.
Secondly HD598 and HD600 are more neutral than every single planar/electrostatic in production at the moment.
Want a real neutral planar magnetic? LCD-1? Oh wait, it's not in production. LCD-1 is more neutral than HD598 or HD600.
>>51848673
>beats: the speaker
>muh yellow cones
rokit are the original pleb meme speaker.
lel, LSR305 memers are always quick to defend their no sub-bass trash speakers
>>51849639
Very neutral from 20hz to ~4 khz. At that point the treble takes a dive and never recover. Very easy to fix with EQ but most people will use them for portable players.
Build quality is great but the ear cups are small on the original full size.
>>51850740
>Very easy to fix with EQ
It actually isn't, in the same way that the EL-8 treble cannot be fixed.
>>51850617
well theyre dumb after they expected spaciousness from any bass heavy song. i own x2s, and the only music that actually brings out its overshadowing bass was NOT meant to sound fucking spacious... it was meant to sound bassy, and the x2 does it
>>51850657
i wouldnt argue there. but were talking about headphones. everything changes when you add in the ability to eq...
>>51850666
oh jesus i have awakened some kind of beast. did you get the 598s in the sale too? so many absolutely wrong things in that post
>>51850740
>hurr android doesnt have eq
>>51850737
More like HiiSSss speakers.
>>51850768
>oh jesus i have awakened some kind of beast. did you get the 598s in the sale too? so many absolutely wrong things in that post
No, everything in my post is objectively correct. I like how you assume I own a HD598. Fuck off you ignorant audiophile retard. While you're at it, kill yourself.
>>51850788
please dont hurt me senpai, i promise i will never criticize a sennshills objective viewpoint ever again
>>51849418
>I like other IEMs more
Well what are they? I don't really know anything about sound signature so I'll try anything short of niggabass.
>>51850815
I'm not a Sennheiser shill you complete fucking retard. Factually speaking, they make some of the most accurate headphones on the market.
You really need to kill yourself.
>>51850842
No, I'm an autist that prefers neutral sound, and that isn't for everyone, trust me, you wouldn't like what I like. The M6 Pro is tuned for a general audience. Trust me, you'll like it, it doesn't have nigger bass, the regular M6 is a bit on the nigger bass side.
>>51849432
well the are certainly signatures that are not suitable for some kinds of music. would you use an ad700 to listen to bass-heavy house music?
I hope they beat the HD600 with this one.
Sennheiser doesn't want me to upgrade from the HD600 it seems.
>>51850870
If you don't tell me what IEMs you prefer in that price range I'll fucking kill you anon.
I like neutral sound too, I listen to a lot of different genres, maybe I want something versatile?
What do you think of:
>FiiO EX1?
>Vsonic VSD3S?
>Hifiman RE-400?
The M6 Pro is at the top of my list but I want to scour the market a little more.
>Budget
200 Canadian
>Location
Ontario
>Source
galaxy s4 and desktop
>Preferred type of headphone
full
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
Nice and comfy, gonna be wearing these for long periods sometimes
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral or v-shaped I guess
>Preferred music
Alt/grunge rock, house (mostly French), a bit of metal
>Past headphones
pic related, wore these for 2 years, don't know why
Don't now much about headphones so is v shaped a good choice?
>>51849694
400i, the 701 has no bass and the 650 is a veil monster. the k7xx, x2, and mad dog are nice but if you can afford the 400i it's a step above.
>>51850965
Okay okay okay okay, Etymotic Research MK5 is my favorite at that price range, it's neutral, but somewhat inefficient for an IEM. It can also be a bit harsh sounding. But I don't really recommend it to anyone, despite that, I really fucking love them.
I haven't heard the FiiO EX1. I was thinking about picking up a Red/Blue VSD3S. I'm a sucker for collecting IEMs then giving them away afterwards.
The RE-400s, I previously own them, don't recommend them, the build quality is bad, didn't use mine much and it broke after a few months, and I treat my stuff gently. The sound is warm, but on the more neutral side of warm, so it's not very warm or veiled sounding. It's very pleasant to listen to, no bad sibilance or peaky treble.
>>51850959
A slightly tweaked HD800 won't beat a HD600 for neutrality. A problem of the HD800 often not mentioned here is the recessed upper midrange. If Sennheiser doesn't address that then it would still have that slight muffled tone to it.
>>51851026
HD650 is only veiled on amps with high output impedance. I would say the HD650 is better than the HE-400i.
>>51851023
i wear those for working out - basically they're adequately cheap headphones that i could live with throwing away. how could someone actually wear these day-to-day?
>>51851023
I think most headphones on the market are V-shaped.
Anyway XPT100 is what you want.
>>51850959
>I hope they beat the HD600 with this one.
It won't without a total driver change, and everything that has been stated so far indicates that this isn't what is being done with HD 800 S.
>>51850965
>FiiO EX1
Barely any isolation. An even sounding IEM, but it's more Harman curve than diffuse field, plus a bit of peaking from canal resonance. Easy fit, very shallow.
>Vsonic VSD3S
If I remember right, they were a peakier version of VSD1.
>Hifiman RE-400
Warm sounding, deep fit, pissy build.
>ask for a recommendation
>get showered with sennheiser
How about something in the range of the HD600 that's not the fucking HD600
>>51851078
>recessed upper midrange
I've been thinking, does this make headphones sound like it has a better soundstage? Like weakening the upper midrange where the ears are most sensitive would make something sound like it was coming from further. Then again I don't know much about this.
>>51851138
K702, DT880, X2.
It's basically a 4 way shitfest between HD600 and those 3.
>>51842933
>>51843466
>>51844180
Are we still interested in getting some more AES papers?
>>51851078
>A problem of the HD800 often not mentioned here is the recessed upper midrange
It sounds somewhat V-shaped.
>>51851175
Playing around with frequency response does affect perception of direction and distance, but not necessarily in the way that headphone do.
>>51851261
Oh right, maybe that anon can collect all in the MEGA folder and just add it to the wiki as one collection. Tell me when it's ready, I'll remove the dropbox link I added earlier and replace it will the complete MEGA version.
>>51851138
but anon that's heresy!
seriously though what do you actually want sound wise? don't say neutral. there is no neutral headphone, they all have colorations to a lesser or greater degree.
>>51851322
Neutral.
>>51851333
You're not me
>>51851295
https://mega.nz/#F!3MFm1DrD!4GlU_vNtEeF148kZcQ05wA
It's not just AES papers, it has other documents and books mixed in.
>Budget
Flexible, preferably $200 or less
>Location
USA
>Source
I'm just using my motherboard's on-board soundcard. Possibly also an iPhone, but only rarely.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfort takes priority over sound quality, more than anything else I want something circumaural. I'd prefer pleather over velour, but that doesn't really matter.
>Preferred tonal balance
Anything not overly bass-heavy. I don't mind bass, but I wound up trying some recently that were so bass-heavy that listening to music was literally painful. Those may have just been extremely bass-heavy though.
>Preferred music
Doesn't really matter, this is more for gaming and internet-browsing than music-listening. Metal and some crappy electronic.
>Past headphones
I'm looking to replace a Sony MDR-NC50 that I've really loved, that's simply breaking apart from age
>>51851322
>there is no neutral headphone, they all have colorations to a lesser or greater degree.
Etymotic ER-4B would like to have a word with you.
>>51851369
The more stuff the better, it's resources for learning after all.
Let me know when it's complete, I'll add it to the wiki.
>>51851376
ety being neutral is as much of a disinfo meme as hd600 being neutral. they both aren't.
