Mozilla is paying $15,000 to replace all of the instances of the word "slave" from the project.
Cancelled my monthly donations. What an egregious waste of funds.
>Shut down Firefox OS
>Throw more money at SJWs
Bravo Mozzarella
Also, as it turns out, they were getting a paycheck from having Pocket in the browser:
http://www.ghacks.net/2015/12/05/mozilla-has-a-revenue-share-agreement-with-pocket/
They mislead users by saying that they weren't paid directly by Pocket to get it integrated, but conveniently ignored that they were still being paid by including them.
>>51822139
they even use Slave to explain their architecture.
Fuck Mozilla, seriously
>>51823308
I think that is the point of this they want it to use more "neutral" wording
>>51822139
Pale Moon is the future
>>51823389
oh I thought they wanted help to remove the word from mozilla's projects documentation
>>51823424
Pale moon is shit to icecat
At least last time I checked
>>51823572
Well it's both really, they want all references to the word "slave" removed from the buildbot infrastructure including the images.
>>51823389
1984
it's coming
Mozilla has become such a fucking joke.
>>51822139
And then what? are they going to rewrite all functions so all are equal and with the same rights and access to variables?
:P
>>51823747
Meanwhile, at 9gag
I'd be willing to move to pale moon if everyone else moves as well.
>>51823931
Sandboxing is another way to call concentration camps that's why firefox doesn't have it.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
holy shit.
>modern mozilla
>>51822139
Wait, what the fuck are they gonna call them, then? Subordinates? Free associates?
This some C+Equality level bullshit.
>>51822139
feminism and sjws are killing technology and gaming one step at a time.
>>51822139
I can't justify this and I a love Firefox.
Still not pushes me over the edge, but if they continue like this...
>>51822139
That shit reminds me of that github project about removing every "triggering" word from text passages/source code. Anyone remember/got link?
Someone should fork the current Firefox to have a version with the word "slave" everywhere
>>51823995
I kek'd
>You know, Hitler had sandboxes he made the Jews play in
>>51823424
Pale Moon for OS X when?
>>51823633
You never checked it, so it must have been around 14 years ago.
>>51823946
i already am
>>51824101
Rename tabs to slaves.
>>51824069
"replicants". No, seriously.
>>51824101
>Someone should fork the current Firefox
Let's do it.
I'll start work on the logo.
>>51824085
http://www.palemoon.org/palemoon-win64.shtml
>>51824101
>Someone should
based /g/
seriously, someone should remove RMS from the sticky and add "someone"; it's just the better mascot
>>51824111
Compile it yourself, it's open-source.
>>51823946
A lot of /g/ is already using it (including myself). Don't know why you want crowd approval though.
>>51824136
exactly. the only 64-bit browser for windows without bloat. pale meme is dank.
>>51822139
ffsfor i in /*; do sed 's/slave/stupid/g'; done
>>51822139
>Mozilla is paying $15,000 to replace all of the instances of the word "slave" from the project.
jesus, i feel bad now even using a browser based on mozilla code
>>51824166
but anon if you just do that then some feminists don't get the $15k.
>>51824166
It's not exactly that easy because there are images and probably documents in various formats like pdf and shit that have to be redone as well. Also the files aren't necessarily in one place either you might have to do that for hundreds/thousands of files.
>>51824166
Just do the images and collect your 15k
>>51824132
What? That makes no fucking sense. Master-Slave is a simple, easy to understand relationship that assigns powers and responsibilities. The fuck does Master-Replicant mean? The Replicant is a copy of the master? That makes no fucking sense.
>>51824372
It may not make any sense but at least it's not offensive!
Why didn't they just use something simple like boss and subordinate?
>>51824114
There was no 264 support on YouTube last time I checked
>>51823734
I want to get off
>>51824415
how about dom and sub?
ruler and peasant?
pimp and whore?
man and woman?
That's why i switched to seamonkey
>fork of mozilla products from back when they were still good
>project aimed to preserve the conservative user interface from the good old days where everything was clear and simple without functionalities hidden behind thousands of separate menus
>best foss mail client on the market, with interface familiar to classic Microsoft Outlook
and of course
>absolutely no involvement in political bullshit that do nothing but waste money and time
>>51824136
Thanks, uninstalling Jewfox
>>51824474
top kek
>>51824101
SlaveFox
>>51824591
It could have a nigger slave theme.
>>51824493
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/
>addons.mozilla.org
No thanks. I'd rather use Internet Explorer and leave the entire web in the past.
my god
>>51824136
can I continue using my current Firefox profile?
>>51822139
fuuuuck, why are they doing this? whyyyy?
>>51822139
I feel bad for you guys. What the actual fuck is Mozilla doing? How did it come to this? Kill all the SJWs.
Sooo, pale moon it is ?
mozilla is dead to me
how did it go so wrong, /g/?
>>51824615
It's just a place to host.
And a lot of firefox addons work under seamonkey just fine (ublock, umatrix, etc)
I left the Mozilla botnet and went to the Google Chrome botnet. At least they only cater to advertisers instead of SJW nuts.
>>51824673
Pale moon is based on Mozilla Firefox you retard
>>51824718
>imblying
wait, so calling something a slave is considered offensive nowadays?
>>51824718
There's no large company that doesn't cater to SJWs, Google included.
>>51824749
So what you stupid shit ?
>>51824749
Pale Moon is Firefox without SJWs.
>>51824372
If they follow what Django did, they'll have Primary-Replicant.
>>51824194
well, they should've used vector graphics anyways, then this would work as well
Please I want to get off Mozilla's wild ride
>>51824132
"Replicants", really? As in the robots used as slave labor in Blade Runner? That's offensive.
>>51824848
All exits are just disguised entrances.
>>51824861
Tweet that Mozilla doesn't really care.
>>51824080
>gaming
literally nobody cares
>>51824894
Fuck you, gamergate is going to save video games from SJWs and Jews.,
What is the point? I don't fucking understand.
I really don't fucking understand the point of this.
>>51824101
Please this,
Slave fox with slave tabs nigger theme and tits buttons.
>>51823633
Icecat is firefox with a different logo
>>51824934
get fucked, sexist bigot
>>51824935
it explains why firefox hasn't progressed in the last 4 years though. the company has become a joke. this is what happens when you let feminists have too much power
>>51824935
There's no real point.
It's just so people "feel good".
Do gooders is what will bring end to our civilisation
>>51824935
Their thinking is probably that it trivializes the concept of slavery so the use of the term should be discouraged.
They could just use something fictional like "zombie" instead.
It's 2015 for goodness sake
>>51824989
>not posting the pic
It's like you still live in the wrong side of history, mate1
>>51824950
intentially using it in an offensive way will only serve as fuel/justification for their retardation
>>51825046
i need them to comprehend that this won't make the browser faster or better on any way and it's just a waste of resources.
by demonizing slavery, we are letting ISIS win
>>51825082
they clearly don't care anymore
>paying $15,000 for a small program that searches files and replaces the word slave
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
What the fuck is Mozilla doing with all the money? Do they have money growing on trees now?
>>51823633
>icecat
>2015
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnuzilla/2015-09/msg00011.html
>>51824958
>being an sjw
Kill yourself
>>51825186
They have money flowing out their pockets, if you know what I mean :^)
>>51825218
>they charge themselves $15k fee for doing <10 minutes of work
Literally living the dream.
>>51824493
>fork of mozilla products
It still uses the same core as Firefox. When XUL is kill, so is SeaMonkey.
>>51824950
>nigger
No, Arab themed.
I'm sick of muslims playing the victim card all the time and not getting any shit for slavery when they were orders of magnitude worse than Europeans.
>>https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2015/12/10/mozilla-open-source-support-first-awards-made/
Oh My God !!!
fuck this gay earth, wtf is wrong with the master-slave nomenclature? words are only as bad as their usage... next step is removing all traces of the word "put" because the previously called function was not "canIPutItIn" so it's rape...
>mfw the "Mozz is SJW" trolls in here were right
>kill me pls
>>51824136
>win64
>>51825306
I don't know how to do an arab theme but a nigger theme is just a dark one :P
This is embezzlement of funds. Plain and simple.
They're allocating an absurdly large amount of money for a simple (but completely pointless) project.
>>51822139
>>51823308
politics aside, worker would be a better term than slave here 2bh
"slave" usually implies master/slave database architecture where slave really means "hot standby", while "worker" typically refers to worker threads, which is what this is
>>51822139
OMG pls remove "bus" from all operating systems, drivers and motherboards because I was literally almost raped in a bus IRL!
>>51822139
That can't be real.
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2015/12/10/mozilla-open-source-support-first-awards-made/
>It's real
>>51825306
> were
There plenty of slaves in muslim countries even today
>>51825319
>mfw the "Mozz is SJW" trolls in here were right
We were never trolls
I'd bet most of us used mozilla too, we were just aware of the situation sooner that's all
>>51825429
Then explain master and slave harddrives
>>51825319
>>mfw the "Mozz is SJW" trolls in here were right
they are pretty openly pro-SJ, it's not a consipiracy
>>51825442
Now that's interesting, where exactly ?
brb installing pale moon
>>51825474
it's not a useful descriptive term there either
>>51825452
I was nudged awake when version 4 hit my desk. The changes made no sense, and as I watched with concern, the nonsense spread like a cancer.
>>51822139
Hold on, Imma uninstall Firefox and put on palemoon
>>51825486
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Slavery
Many places, it's just not something most western media want to report on
>>51825474
Master and slave doesn't even make any sense in that context, it was likely picked for a lack of a better term. Maybe primary and secondary would have been better for that.
>>51825486
Doesn't Dubai use slave labor?
IIRC Vice did a documentary about it.
>>51825513
Same.
>>51825486
Pretty much any mudslime dominated country.
>>51825486
Philippino maids in Saudi Arabia are basically slaves. They go there to find work, get into a home and their "employers" confiscate their passports, rape them and abuse them. Google it. Also, this happens everywhere.Hong Kong, London, Moscow.
Also, slavery exists in the U.S. Obviously you don't hear about it unless you do some actual research, it helps if you have access to sociology journals. There have been cases of Mexican migrant workers being held hostage on Orange farms in Florida, their passports get taken away and they get put under armed guard and are forced to work for free. There are organisations that try combat this problem but most people don't really believe it's happening.
>>51825598
The master drive receives a command via the bus and then relays it to the appropriate disk (one of its slaves), making it do the job FOR NO REMUNERATION. Hence, master and slave.
>>51825613
Slavery eh?
They make more money in Saudi than they ever would working in the Phillipines.
Also, there is no room for abuse in an Islamic country. True facts: my aunt reported an attempted rape case, turns out the man had previous history, and they protected her. Muslim hosts are actually very nice, as long as you respect their customs.
>>51825557
wut, I didn't know it was so widespread
>>51825637
Mudslime detected. Abuse of foreign workers in Saudi Arabia and Dubai is pretty well documented.
>>51825637
Fuck off. Go read my link post above
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Slavery
There are 100000s slaves in muslim countries
Also, trying to convince us they give a shit about women's rights or foreigners for that matter is retarded
There are so many examples of how women lack even the most basic rights, the same goes for foreigners
>>51824687
Sjw managed to manifest themselves into the project.
Its really, really sad.
After 12 years of using Mozilla and then Firefox and all its name changes, I left for chrome.
Might as well use the real botnet instead of a terrible clone.
Use to use pale moon but to many sites are broken on it due to missing features.
>>51825620
the term is still ambiguous, when i read "master/slave architecture" i don't know if the documentation means "replicated state machine", "system that decides jobs / system that runs jobs", or something else. this is an important distinction. the terms "[primary|master]/[secondary|replica]" or "[master|dispatcher]/worker" are not ambiguous and should be used instead
>>51825637
compensation is irrelevant. if you can't stop working of your own volition, it is - literally - the textbook definition of slavery.
>>51825637
Mudslime countries are not nice especially not for women and foreigners, you must be delusional or living in one of them if you actually believe that.
>>51825212
>le SJW boogieman
your truly worse than hitler
>>51824136
does noscript work?
>>51824135
Nice! I'll come up with ideas for someone else to implement, but I already have a few.
>>51825728
>claiming SJW boogeyman are meme
>in a thread that's literally about SJW ruining mozilla
>>51825691
Actually, I have no clue what you are talking about. Master slave provides an easy frame of reference to the separation of labour between the components, whose exact nature doesn't matter because the important part of the architecture is no the nature of the slave but rather it's relationship to the master. Calling it a replica need no imply it's lower or higher than the original, secondary instills no reference to their interelationship as secondary systems need not be dependent on the primary ones, and worker doesn't describe the fact the relationship is constant and fixed rather than a resource to be used by whichever superior might be involved.
Master-slave is the clearest of them all for just about all systems.
>>51825637
Like I said, many of them get their passports confiscated and are kept there regardless of what whether they want to leave or not. If they're in a good home, of course they earn more. If they are not (which is often the case) they don't earn anything at all and are mistreated on top of that. So no, they are not better off.
>>51825688
>Use to use pale moon but to many sites are broken on it due to missing features.
What's causing those failures ?
>>51825764
yeah sure SJW are the problem, not Trump declarations about internet or everything Trump does
>>51825637
Nope, I worked as an engineer for the military in Saudi Arabia.
When I went out to the country sides I would encounter Asians who would give me letters to give to there families, because there "nice hosts" took there passports. The women where treated the worst compared to the men, as well.
Take you head off the floor, muhammad, and educate yourself.
>>51825797
BUILD WALL JUAN
>>51825783
It has no bleeding edge draft support, not much new CSS3, HTML5 or ES6 and ES7 Javascript features. It has no full Javascript promises implementation.
Most new sites or updates of sites require that features, if those can not be ported into Pale Moon's ESR 24 codebase it will be incompatible with all modern webpages.
>>51825797
>dat derailing
Who said anything about Trump except you?
That other poster mentioned how SJW are ruining tech and gaming
You responded by calling him sexist and claiming SJW boogeymen are meme
In a thread about SJW ruining a once great software company...
Whether Trump is a moron or not has zero to do with this thread
>>51825835
Trump and his /pol/ supporters are what make 4chan shit
literally just delete /pol/
>>51825764
SJWs got the co-founder of the Mozilla project and inventor of JavaScript to step down as CEO by inciting an online mob over a personal donation he made in 2008.
They already won. The current CEO responded to an anonymous post from a Mozilla employee about how "social justice" is stealing the focus of the company by saying that he will find out who posted it and have them fired immediately.
Anyone who says SJWs aren't a problem is either an SJW or willfully ignorant of current events.
just be willing to suspend your scorn in a year from now
firefox/mozilla are going to be horrible organisations and browsers for at least another full year but then they'll come back with SERVO and wipe the floor with gecko/chromium/etc
>>51825850
>You responded by calling him sexist
where?
make a reasonable claim /pol/
>>51825776
i'm not sure you actually work in technology, all of the terms i described have consistent and unambiguous terms in industry
>Master slave provides an easy frame of reference to the separation of labour between the components
so do the other terms
>whose exact nature doesn't matter because the important part of the architecture is no the nature of the slave but rather it's relationship to the master
this is so wrong it's comical
>Calling it a replica need no imply it's lower or higher than the original
... no? it's pretty obviously "lower", since it's not the authoritative source
>secondary instills no reference to their interelationship as secondary systems need not be dependent on the primary ones
not how the term is used
>worker doesn't describe the fact the relationship is constant and fixed rather than a resource to be used by whichever superior might be involved
ok, no. that is not how the term "worker" is used. a "resource to be used by whichever superior might be involved" is typically called a "resource"
I already moved to Chrome some years ago but that was when I was using Linux and flash got put on life support for anything but Chrome.
Now I'm waiting for extensions in Edge and I'll happily just use that instead.
As a Firefox and Thunderbird user this is embarrassing on a few levels, 1 on a personal level, the fact these people are so insecure and immature about a standard term and 2 on a professional level, this is straight up some straight up dubious money laundering tier idiocy, "oh yeah we need 15k to find replace".
I try very hard to separate a product from the producer but they are trying even harder to get me to stop using their product, I've already given up on supporting and promoting it out of sheer embarrassment, this is so far from the Netscape days.
>>51825869
Sure, but it will be a Chrome clone, no complex extensions, no complex themes, no customization.
is django part of this mess?
>>51825865
>They already won. The current CEO responded to an anonymous post from a Mozilla employee about how "social justice" is stealing the focus of the company by saying that he will find out who posted it and have them fired immediately.
there's an interesting, well established solution to problems such as unjustified firings... they are called "unions"
>>51825869
When servo is released and there's like a million projects using it like there are for webkit that's probably when I'm going to move away from firefox. The leadership at Mozilla is incompetent and I stopped caring about them years ago.
>>51825869
And no, they will never beat Chromium. Mozilla tries hard to emulate Blink, but they will never succeed. A copycat company can never outsmart real developers! Perhaps they come close, but they will always lose.
And Mozilla has zero ideas on their own. All of their plan is to be like Google Chrome.
>>51825883
here
>>51824958
Now fuck off back to plebbit
>>51825916
And how do you know the union isn't SJW?
>>51825927
that's not me :^)
>>51825776
Primary / secondary or scheduler / worker are more semantically meaningful.
>>51825934
>using the caret nose
>>51825931
easy. because there isn't one
>>51822139
this is fucking ridiculous...
This is a very important task unlike working on e10s or other technical issues. Software has always been about politics first, technology second right? Mozilla is overflowing with volunteers too so they have the resources to throw away of course.
>>51825946
>falling for obvious bait
>>51825869
>wipe the floor with chrome
I'll take things that will never happen for 500
>>51825869
Why using Firefox? Mozilla is not only SJW, they are anti ricing these days too. Servo will be the final nail in the coffin of a proud Open Source project.
You hope you can change something in Servo? Keep on dreaming.
>>51822139
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCdkqP2GwWo
WOO WOO WOO WOO
SOCIAL JUSTICE 1 2 3
>>51825968
>implying the caret nose meme response isn't standard on /g/
Hello newfriend
>>51825964
>Software has always been about politics first, technology second right?
most FOSS organizations have either corporate or ideological motivations, that's why they exist.
>>51825923
I used to think "Mozilla copying Google" was a meme, but over the last few years they stole Chrome's UI, adopted Chrome's extension format, created a "web-based OS" just like ChromeOS, started merging patches from Chrome (like the image scaling algorithm from a few years ago), etc.
Add in the ads they put in the speed dial and the sponsored extensions that get bundled with the browser and Mozilla seems to have zero interest in giving their audience what they want, and is solely focused on making more money no matter what.
Plus what, two years ago, they bought a new office in the middle of Paris with gold leaf decor to show off how much money they're wasting. (Pic related)
Anyone who's still supporting this joke of an organization needs to get a clue.
>>51825890
-Work as an engineer, not a Mozilla developer, so maybe?
-No they do not, as described
-Repeating it won't make it true.
-No it isn't. Replica's having equal authority isn't something new in terminology, as they are are merely copies which, generally, either try to keep consistent with the original but can do things on their own or just out right ignore it.
-Sure it is. Secondary cooling, control, sockets, and others are not lower in importance but meant as replacements to a system should it fail. The term secondary express nothing about of authority but rather the order of usage. After all, when you boot a computer and you say your secondary boot source is your USB you aren't saying your USB boot is under the control of your hard drive. That's retarded.
-Exactly, you have to add your own little explanation as to what it means in order for it to make sense.
TL;DR: get fucked, C+Equality programmer.
>>51825942
No they aren't, they are ambiguous ot the nature of the systems and convey no information that cannot be surmised from Master/Slave.
>>51825942
Which is why they're not usable as opposed to master/slave to describe the nature of the relationship (it would be like calling all felines "cats" despite the fact that lions are not cats).
>>51825968
>I was only pretending
>Bro: $200,000. Bro is network monitoring software, which is at the heart of Mozilla’s intrusion detection system for our network. Their award will be used to build the Comprehensive Bro Archive Network, a public repository of modules and plugins for Bro.
>Bro
This word has a gender problem. It comes of misogynistic and unprofessional due to the world it lives in.
>>51825869
>>51825986
I want to fucking die, a web browser is the most important piece of software for me, I use it more than anything. Firefox has progressively been getting worse, I don't even understand how that's possible. Opera is dead so even if it was better at some point it's not like I can switch to it now, everything using webkit seems so fucking slow and memory intensive that I can't stand it. Firefox was the only sane one left for a while and they're progressively getting more insane and less good.
>lol lets remove extensions
Fuck me.
>>51826051
to extend your analogy:
'master/slave' => 'feline'
'primary/secondary' => 'cat'
'scheduler/worker' => 'lion'
>>51826067
I don't know if you're joking but Mozilla actually renamed the file extension for Brotlie from ".bro" to ".br" specifically to address the sexism complaints they got about it.
This isn't a joke anymore. This is reality.
>>51826092
>opera is dead
Don't remind me. It's too hard.
>>51826027
Yeah! And people like you cursed and humiliated the likes of me for telling you that that would happen!
It is always the same. People are in denial and then they turn sides 180 degree when they have realized that they have been raping by Mozilla all along.
Btw. Their money contract goes to hell once Yahoo is split off. Expect them to be without money in maximum one year away or less.
>>51826105
I don't think I can take it anymore.
>>51826092
>>51826112
If you guys like a little botnet, there is vivaldi waiting. Yes it's really early in development now but it's slowly getting there, one snapshot at a time. At least developers focus on right things and they hired most of old Opera people.
>>51826105
i know your intentions are good senpai but he literally used a quote from the mailing list with the faggot google and mozilla engineers
>>51825865
PARANOIA
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What the fuck is going on with this recent trend of inclusivity in every field? Why cater to people who don't actually matter to you? People that are offended by the world "slave" are not worth working with in my opinion, those seem like troublemakers who waste project money on nonsense like this. People who demand change without the ability to do it themselves so they tell others to do it for them, what a credit to the project. People of value are able to look past things like this since they don't actually matter when considering the scope of your work.
>>51826105
wew lad
>>51826042
this isn't even a /pol/-tier post, it's a /b/ post
>-No it isn't. Replica's having equal authority isn't something new in terminology, as they are are merely copies which, generally, either try to keep consistent with the original but can do things on their own or just out right ignore it.
...what? what kind of "replica" tracks changes while ignoring demands? that makes no fucking sense. show me a system that does this
>-Repeating it won't make it true.
>semantic meaning is bad!
>Secondary cooling, control, sockets, and others are not lower in importance but meant as replacements to a system should it fail
...yes they are. secondary systems are used as a backup or fallback. that what the term 'secondary' means.
>-Exactly, you have to add your own little explanation as to what it means in order for it to make sense.
that's just the industry definition, stated since you seemed unaware
>they are ambiguous
they are not ambiguous, they are terms with well-defined conventional usage
I have had an annual donation to Mozilla since 2007, because I liked the work they did and the causes they supported.
Wasting $15,000 on shit like makes me a little angry.
>>51826204
>People who demand change without the ability to do it themselves
but they can do it themselves? that's why they are doing it
>>51826105
funny, since 'bro' is a word out of the SJW playbook. how does brazil feel about this? (^:
>>51824934
lol
>>51826204
One of the biggest reasons companies like Microsoft, Apple and Google are pushing inclusivity because the more people that get into the labor pool, the lower the cost of labor gets.
The problem is that they are perpetuating a negative stereotype about women by implying that the only way to get women involved in tech is to treat them like children. Of course most of the people championing inclusivity are actually white males, so this isn't much of a surprise. They're speaking on behalf of a group they aren't a part of and making fools of themselves in the process.
>gave monthly donations to Mozilla
>gave even a penny to Mozilla in the last five years
You fucked up, assuming you're not baiting. And this is coming from someone who has donated to the Debian project, even though I don't use Debian (but I used Debian-based distros).
>>51826155
Wait, it's just essentially opera with a shittier UI? And what's this of a botnet?
>>51826252
>your entire sum of donations could be wasted on this
I'm sorry it had to be this way.
I remember in 2005 or so the state of california tried to do this for ide drives which showed how out of the loop they were.
Now it's a dumb fucking meme to try to pretend you're egalitarian.
>>51826204
I doubt someone actually complained and said they were offended by it.
This kind of shit always comes from HR or other useless departments with too much time on their hands that worry someone MIGHT be offended.
>>51826293
>the state of california
Why don't we just nuke that fucking place out of existence?
>>51826042
>C+Equality
this was satire btw
>>51826286
Didn't Debian spend a shitload of money on a women's outreach program which made them cancel other real efforts?
I will never understand the mentality of trying to bring in people who obviously do not want to work in the field into your field. That shit really blows my mind, like no amount of training is going to force people to want to work for you.
I'm not slagging on Debian but that was a dumb move if it was them.
>>51825797
So... SJWs ruined another project with their incompetence and everyone should vote for Trump in 2016.
>>51826280
>Of course most of the people championing inclusivity are actually white males
Pic related, XOXO Festival, the largest social justice-oriented tech conference in the US.
>>51826204
>Why cater to people who don't actually matter to you?
women spend more money than men; catering to women is the correct capitalist response. see: the advertising industry
Pale Moon here I come.
>>51826341
I'm a fetishist with a girlfriend who regularly plays master/slave.
I feel offended by mozilla trying to makeo ut voluntary passtime's terminology a taboo. After all, the word slave in the context of IT has nothing to do with the immoral kind of slaves, yet it's being banned. By that same logic, her being my slave (voluntarily) is also being targeted by mozilla.
Mozilla confirmed bigoted, intolerant, censoring assholes.
>>51826280
This is affirmative action all over again. They should ask the black communities how that turned out for them and how they feel about being marginalized.
>>51826345
It was Gnome Foundation. In 2013 they spent 50% of their annual budget on the OPW (Outreach Program for Women) which ended up causing a shortage of funds going into 2014.
>>51826381
*to make our
>>51826194
>See all this shit happen in public with loads of sources corroborating on the same story
>Acknowledging it is somehow being "paranoid"
Right... I'm guessing you're a recent arrival from Reddit?
But yeah... I expect nothing less from a company which GENUINELY did proceeded to actually enforce what was essentially thought crime. At least this time it's just tens of thousands in money that could actually be used for some useful features or improvements going down the drain rather than hiring people to just goof off based on their gender and/or race.
>>51826384
at least try
>They should ask the black communities how that turned out for them
it turned out pretty well for them. turns out resource allocation from A -> B is beneficial for B
>and how they feel about being marginalized.
they dislike being marginalized, which is why they want affirmative action
>>51826372
In this case it makes for a worse product though which means less investment opportunities for Mozilla as well as more costs since they have to take on more people inherently and also take in even more to accommodate for the slack. Am I wrong about that?
>>51826412
Affirmative Action is nothing but class White Savior Complex.
The cis white males come along and tell everybody that the only way people of color can achieve anything is if the white man helps them.
>>51826345
>>51826387
That's right my mistake. I think this confused me
https://www.debian.org/women/
>>51826240
-You serious don't know about Multi-master replication?
-Again, repeating it won't make it true.
-Make a secondary system be of lower importance in any real project and they manager will smack you for making your fallback be a liability.
-One that has existed for less than 10 years at the insitance of C+E programmers which still requires a little note which amounts to "worker means slave, ok?".
-They are ambigious as replacements of Master/Slave because they don't mean the same thing, nigga.
>>51826341
I know, I contributed to the "project", then saw people take it seriously, then claim they were never serious about taking it seriously.
>>51826387
I never gotten a response as to what, exactly, where those funds going towards. Of all the things in GNOME, that's the one blackhole you can never know what the fuck happened to the money.
>>51826412
They have the lowest graduation rates, the lowest post-university employment rates, the lowest post-university pay, and a bunch of other things because now people presume, correctly, they are lower quality students being allowed in due to their race in a good deal of the cases. This is coming from a Spic, by the way.
>>51825637
t. Ahmed AbuGoatfiddallah
Nice taqiyyah
>>51826430
>mfw SJWs have been the real racists all along
>>51826418
>In this case it makes for a worse product [...]
does it? if so, does it make the product worse enough to matter? advertising and value signalling are often far more valuable in maximizing dollars than product quality.
>>51826381
post pics
>>51826412
For some reason I dobut you're being serious and am not going to give you the benefit of the doubt, I think you're intentionally trying to start an argument to pass the time. I'm sorry but I hope you understand given the place we're at.
>>51826456
You're probably right unfortunately, I was in an absolute and ideal mindset not a real, current, and practical mindset.
![tumblr_nns8mopbvr1tqe2i0o1_r1_1280[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/CvWBR7I.gif "tumblr nns8mopbvr1tqe2i0o1 r1 1280[1]")
>>51822139
What the goddamn fucking shit is this madness
I'm so fucking glad I jumped ship to vivaldi and took the addons I develop with me
>>51824132
>replicant
I do believe you, but I need a source for a friend of mine not so trusting.
>>51825869
Have you even tried the servo branch? Sure it's a much cleaner code base but it is also much slower than todays firefox (not to mention buggy but that is to be expected since it's pre-release and it's lacking some features).
And when I say slower i really mean slow-ass-molasses-crap, like, the graphs used in some media news a few months ago claiming improved threaded performance comparison are blatant lies!
All Mozilla had were the the loyal community, most programmers, that liked their course of actions, now it looks like this is the end...
>>51826448
People have been trying to warn others about this forever, that's the entire history of affirmative action, in the end it always turns out bad for the people you are "supporting".
>>51825840
>It has no full Javascript promises implementation.
http://git.io/v0GrY
>>51826204
When you attack the whole idea of "must have equal representation no matter what the actual available labor pool looks like" by bringing up dirty, physically demanding or just downright dangerous jobs that are male dominated the people who push this idea usually crack and reveal the true purpose of it.
Basically what they end up explaining is that it's not actually about equal representation of genders and races in general, but rather getting more women and non white or asian into cushy well paid jobs that are right now dominated by white and asian men.
Then there's also businesses that have grabbed onto this in their eternal conquest to drive down the costs of labor and are seeing an opportunity to lower the cost of the domestic labor pool by just flooding it with people who otherwise wouldn't be interested.
The reasoning why Mozilla removes features and tries to be like Chrome. Read the bottom of the screen-capped picture!
>>51826491
>slow as shit
Is it written in Rust? All I hear from people using it is that it's slow which is not what Mozilla keeps saying.
>>51826403
You seem to have forgotten that 4chan used to be progressive and Reddit far right conservative? Maybe it's time you went back to your people senpai
>>51826448
Of course. Listen to their rhetoric.
>We need affirmative action so people of color can get jobs
They imply that blacks are lesser than whites and need assistance to achieve anything.
>we need more STEM classes for girls
They imply women are lesser than males and need assistance to achieve anything
And this pic shows what Mozilla thinks about Mozilla based projects which do not want to discard all features!
>>51825853
4chan has always been contrarian. Newfag is new.
>>51826519
>4chan
>Progressive
>With pretty much all the early memes except the animal related ones being racist as shit
Remember shoop da woop?
Seriously thou, 4chan hasn't been anywhere near progressive since at least 2010.
Did any black person ever actually say they feel uncomfortable about master/slave terminology? Is it worth getting rid of a well-established, useful piece of jargon if it makes us feel a little bit better about the world? Do we need to eliminate words from our language when they have alternate meanings that remind us of bad stuff that happened?
I wonder how many more Talent of Color will feel more comfortable getting into systems programming because their white coworkers aren't calling inanimate objects "master" and "slave" anymore.
>>51826565
That's thoughtcrime, senpai.
>>51826436
>-You serious don't know about Multi-master replication?
the terminology "[primary|master]/replica" isn't used in that context. multi-master replication doesn't involve "replicas" at all - that's the entire point.
>-Again, repeating it won't make it true.
so, you are seriously trying to argue that semantic meanings are useless? what is the point of language at all then?
>-Make a secondary system be of lower importance in any real project and they manager will smack you for making your fallback be a liability.
well, yeah, you want your secondaries to work. not sure what you mean here. the usage order is still primary -> secondary.
>-One that has existed for less than 10 years at the insitance of C+E programmers which still requires a little note which amounts to "worker means slave, ok?".
incorrect. read any old book on systems programming, among other things
>>51826560
Racist jokes is not racism. Good try, though.
>>51826519
>4chan used to be progressive
4chan has never been progressive, at least not in the way you're thinking.
I mean hell, some of the oldest memes on the site are about racism, pedophilia, rape, and sexism.
>>51826609
This places going to shit too, fucking word filters already infecting everything.
>>51826457
that was the typical response you'd get if you "asked the black communities how that turned out for them", not really my personal beliefs.
>>51826506
>Basically what they end up explaining is that it's not actually about equal representation of genders and races in general, but rather getting more women and non white or asian into cushy well paid jobs that are right now dominated by white and asian men.
you have to understand that most SJ types are also pro-socialism/communism, wealth redistribution is part of the point.
>>51826617
>being upset over word filters
Y'all niggas really are new as fuck, aren't you?
>>51825743
Yes, most addons do
>>51825369
http://linux.palemoon.org/
>>51826617
>word filters
>a new thing
pick 1
>>51825728
*you're
Why are SJWs so fucking illiterate?
PERFECT
JUST FUCKING PERFECT
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WAS OPPRESSING BLACKS FOR YEARS
COMPUTER BOUND CODING AND PROPER USAGE OF THE WORD SLAVE
BLACK AMERICA REJOICE
FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST
BY GOD ALMIGHTY
FREE
AT
LAST
WE HAVE COME TO RELEASE YOU FROM YOUR BONDS ONCE AGAIN
>>51826560
Even the animal related ones were bad. Pedobear glorified sex with children. Pretty much all of the lingo was, and continues to be, homophobic (fag suffix on pretty much everything).
4chan has been pretty much the same since day one, creating intentionally offensive content to get a rise out of people. The only difference is that people blame the /pol/ boogieman instead of the /b/ boogieman now.
>>51825369
Like I look at GNU + Linux as trustworthy after they pulled the systemd faggotry. Nope. I trust Windows 7 more than Debian 8.
>>51826617
go back to reddit
>>51826661
I miss the days of when tor was safe to browser, not it's a literal honey pot.
>>51826641
>Yes, most addons do
No, they do not. Palemoon is now WILDLY different from regular firefox and most addons don't work right in it at all. Palemoon also has a different program identifier so technically addons are not even supposed to work in it unless they're specifically designed to.
Palemoon is really not worth switching to unless you want the entire point of firefox (addons) to be completely undone.
>>51826641
>http://linux.palemoon.org/
>not realizing I was pissing on him revealing himself as a crossboarder by unprovokedly linking to the Windows version
>>51826565
This whole "must do ridiculous shit because somebody might get offended" is for the most part just white people wanting to feel good about themselves by trying to follow what their white guilt complex tells them to.
I remember talking to a white guy who was a SJW a few years ago and he motivated basically giving black people the red carpet treatment with feeling guilty about what white people had done in the past. When I told him I don't feel the least bit guilty about something I could not have had any kind of control over and the only connection to the people who did all those awful things is that I'm born the same race he told me something that really opened my eyes to the SJW mentality.
Basically what he said was that he thought it would be a tragedy if everyone thought like me as then the progress of social justice would stop and people would no longer donate money to charities or foreign aid.
What I realized from that is that SJW:ism is basically a combination of white guilt and the same kind of "If people didn't follow the bible society would fall apart"-thinking that religious people use to fight atheism.
>>51826519
it was left-leaning but not progressive
>>51826687
And that's why ssl and letsencrypt are a nice thing. Once https is default everywhere, there will be no such issue.
>>51826590
>doesn't involve replicas
You were cute before you acted stupid.
>What's the point of language
To allow for the easy transmission of ideas in ways that are flexible enough to be understood by most speakers.
>primary -> secondary
Which doesn't imply a hierarchy of authority. Secondary systems can work under, complement, or be alternatives to.
>read any old book on systems programming
Feel free to share one that uses it with that specific meaning.
>>51826617
>not being there for the great filter wars of /b/
Those were some times.
>>51826687
It's prefectly safe if you aren't a retard.
>>51826617
inb4 I was only pretending
>>51826689
Soon your addons will not work anymore. Servo API will only replace limited functionality, most complex things which can be done right now are not working there anymore.
Say goodbye to almost every single piece of UI customization or general customization.
>>51826650
>>51826632
Word filters were always retarded. Just because one thing was always bad doesn't mean it should suddenly be considered good just because it has happened for a long time.
>>51826657
>being this new
>>51826692
>crossborder
I have been here all summer, faggot.
>>51826661
>Pretty much all of the lingo was, and continues to be, homophobic (fag suffix on pretty much everything).
"fag" and "faggot" have nothing to do with homosexuality anymore. Get with the times, gramps.
>>51826650
Every time they were enabled they have been total cancer, i know they aren't new but that doesn't make them any better.
>>51826560
Been here since 2006, it's never ever been progressive.
We only fucked with scientology because it was funny.
>>51826689
0/10, not even trying anymore.
>>51826710
But I already said goodbye to all of it, anon. I jumped ship to vivaldi, and I'm taking the addons I make with me.
Mozilla and firefox can burn now for all I care.
>>51826700
The problem isn't a need to be politically correct, or fear of offending someone
the problem is 'whites' honest to god think that if they stop doing/saying racist shit that racist shit stops happening
But forget addressing these issues by any tangible means; if we just stop saying nigger we've done all we can and racism doesn't exist :^)
>>51826593
>Racist jokes
>Somehow not racist
Would you look at that doublethink... Somebody's definitely really advanced in it if they actually believe that.
>>51826716
>summerfag pls
>>51826716
>it was a joke :^)))
>>51826660
jej
>>51826723
>not being here since just yesterday
Ancientfags are the worse we oldfags are the only good users or 4chan, lol.
>>51826745
You know what the other anon meant with botnet? From the looks of it, it's essentially everything I loved of opera with a new skin.
>>51826754
You can tell a racist joke without being a racist.
>>51826754
Would you look at this retardation
Jokes are jokes because they're not serious/truthful/sincere, anon. If a black joke offends you as a black guy, you can just fuck off.
>>51826765
Everything with closed source is botnet. Get with the times
>>51826735
Don't tell people who are trying to fit in how it actually was, it's a good thing for them to openly be wrong, it's an instant red flag for anyone who has been here that long.
>>51826745
Good decision. Better decision would be you would switch to Otter-Browser. Totally Open Source, customizable and gets QTWebengine - also Chromium based.
This time real botnet free.
>>51826791
>implying he wasn't lying
>>51826765
Botnet is 4chan's favorite meme for everything not open source.
Vivaldi is chrome with a custom UI aimed at powerusers on it. You can trust it as much as anything else, so it basically depends on whether or not you wear a tinfoil hat all day.
>>51826754
What makes someone racist?
Telling this joke:
"I think niggers are great, everyone should have one"
or
Thinking that blacks are inferior?
>>51826777
Racial joke*
There is a difference between talking about race and racial traits and being prejudiced and/or racist. I think the problem stems from people conflating those two terms. Being racial is not being racist and there's nothing wrong with talking about race, treating differences as inherently bad is a problem for everyone.
>>51826791
Good point anon.
>>51826765
Botnet=Phoning home to the origin company. Vivaldi, Opera, all other Chromium based browsers connecting Google, you can not get rid of that.
That impacts privacy, that even reduces your already almost non existing anonymity even more.
>>51826754
If there's no intent behind it then its not racist. It might be offensive but that's not the same.
>>51826800
Isn't otter development slow as shit?
>>51826800
>some linux basement project that will never become a major thing
no thanks
Also, I tried it in my linux distro and it looks so much like a firefox clone I instantly uninstalled it again. IIRC the url bar is a literal url bar instead of a combined url/search bar. No thanks.
>>51826809
``I ain't racist, I own a color TV,''
;3
>>51826729
This. There has always been a different between being gay and being a faggot.
>>51826800
Huh... so is this the real opera replacement?
s/slave/kek
where's muh money
Ctrl+f "slave" "worker"
How does this cost 15k?
>>51826809
Racism is racism + power. So a white man is racist in both situations and all other situations as well.
>>51826824
Are you some kind of NAZI?
>>51826837
Not really. But it will not be as polished like Vivaldi, as it is a hobby project.
But who cares, Otter is true Open Source.
>>51826661
>creating intentionally offensive content to get a rise out of people
That's not what you autists are doing. You're actually getting buttblasted because of stupid, insignificant things. You seem to be politically invested in proving everyone wrong, instead of wanking on the establishment for fun. Then some faggot starts posting pro-Trump propaganda, and you unironically swallow it whole. Insert quote from Voltaire.
>>51826809
>What makes someone racist?
Being white, only white people are racist.
>>51826846
My nephew is gay. We all love him as a family member, but the whole family also thinks he's a huge faggot with the way he acts. We often laugh about it too, but we still treat him like any other family member.
Racist/gay jokes are not racism/sexism.
>>51826853
Wait, so those that mean the definition is infinitely recursive?
>>51826847
Yes, i would say so.
>>51826750
The problem is that they take it considerably further than just stopping what they conceive as "problematic" language (like this "Master-Slave"-thing).
They think that there should be no differences and that anyone who points out real tangible ones affecting things are all racists. I'd say they pretty much live and breathe the idea that there is NO difference between men and women (ether psychological or physiological) and that differences between races are literally skin deep.
To them there is no such thing as racist ways of achieving their utopia where there is no difference between men and women and races apart from their skin color. They fully believe in counter-productive shit like women/non-white/asian job offerings, education and generally harassing people they don't agree with from their jobs.
>>51826809
Jokes should be a means by which we shed light on harsh realities and bind us closer together has human beings. The premise of that joke is that slavery is a horrible thing to do to someone.
The second, while subjective, could just as 'harmful' to second parties, but objectively harmful when acted upon.
This isn't the mainstream thought process but one i've personally found to be echoed by academic social justice philosophy
>>51826809
Are you white? If yes you'll always be a racist, no matter what you do or think.
>>51826869
>But who cares
People who like quickly developed, polished software, I guess.
>>51826723
>pulling up htop in your screenshot so everyone knows you're a h4x0r
>>51826893
>we're against racism
>in the extreme sense of the word that borders on nonsensical levels
>accept only specific skin colors for specific job openings
b-b-b-but we're not racist!
>>51826853
Racism is the believe that other races are inferior to yours, any other definition is sociological psuedoscience bullshit.
>>51826894
>social justice
Fuck off
>>51826809
The textbook definition is literally bad discourse based on race. It doesn't matter who's doing it and who's the victim. Nether does it matter that the worst thing that can happen is somebody being offended.
Racist jokes are racist, as simple as that.
>>51826660
the Y axis shows "percent poor".
so it's not the percent of people that are poor, but simply how poor they are? how can you be half poor?
ergo: stupid graph
>Mozilla slowly turning into shit
>the only other good free browser is a botnet
These are dire times.
Is this the same company that asks you to donate money to them because they're in peril? Kekeke.
Also, it's interesting to see that pretty much all of /g/ is now like an extension of /pol/. On one hand it's bad because there's not enough on topic discussion, but on the other it's good because people don't buy shit they're fed anymore.
>>51826869
If it's got otters in it then it has to be good.
regarding Vivaldi, I've been looking around and can't find anywhere that says it's a chrome based browser. Anyoen got links?
>>51826800
I loved opera, but isn't trying to revive the old girl sort of a waste at this point? No one will use it other than a few dozen people. What does it bring new to the table?
Man, Mozilla was always known for being made by racists. They HATE niggers. Good thing they change they get rid of the word slave now. Maybe they'll get rid of their racist image now.
>>51826915
That's your typical political "correctness" doublethink at it's core.
>>51826707
>You were cute before you acted stupid.
feel free to present literature where the term "primary/replica" or "master/replica" is used in the context of multi-master systems. (both of those terms imply a singular primary or master.)
>To allow for the easy transmission of ideas in ways that are flexible enough to be understood by most speakers.
that's my argument, exactly. "master/slave" imparts a smaller set of meaning, because it can mean many different things in the context of systems
>Which doesn't imply a hierarchy of authority. Secondary systems can work under, complement, or be alternatives to.
it does in the convention in which it's used for distributed systems
>Feel free to share one that uses it with that specific meaning.
tanenbaum's operating systems is the first one that comes to mind, check old apache/oracle documentation, that's the earliest i can think of when that pattern emerged
Apparently they still have $500,000 of the $1 million to award to open source projects
Buildbot was awarded the least amount of money anyways
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2015/12/10/mozilla-open-source-support-first-awards-made/
>>51826870
I disagree. If you actually had any knowledge about the subject you wouldn't make such a asinine comment.
>>51826955
Vivaldi doesn't have anything to do with opera. It's just chrome with a more advanced UI aimed at powerusers. The reference to opera is because the devs worked on opera and shit. It's just marketing.
Try it man, vivaldi's brety gud. I see it overtaking firefox in no time.
>>51826920
>Racism
Was coined by an ethnic-based mass murdering Bolshevik fuck. Why do people use that term again?
>>51826893
Eh, this is stuff i've only seen spouted on the internet.
People might call you on your shit if you say problematic shit in the wrong company, but so long as you're not a fucktard and apologize for it you should be fine. The problem is internet-tumblr-nazi mobs.
gender and sex are thought of to be two different things, and its not a popular opinion right now but the idea of 'identity' is inherently flawed and will always move to discriminate individuals from groups. So much so such is a MASSIVE problem in LGBT+ groups, and some fringe Blacklivesmatter movements, ect.
The idea that there need to be "roles" or set ways men, women, or races need to act is in itself a flaw, and even distinguishing between these roles will always serve to hurt "social justice"
The goal of true social justice SHOULD be to eliminate identities, not create more.
>>51826921
Racist jokes are funny, not racist.
>>51826976
Again, anyone has a link showing that? Because I can't find anything refereeing to chrome in anything I've read.
I finished setting up pale moon a few minutes ago and I love it more than firefox already. Jump ship if you haven't already.
>>51826971
>trying this hard
Nice pasta, though. Mind if I start using it?
>>51826809
>>51826894
jokes as politics/"punching up" vs jokes as a subversion of expectations are irreconcilable approaches
>>51826942
no, it's the percent of people that are poor
>>51826942
its the % of people of that race who are considered by whatever subjective measurements "poor"
You're thinking too hard breh.
It's really no coincidence that firefox is technically inferior and incapable of doing anything but copying a corporate product (chrom*)
People who care about technology don't care about politics. All technology is somehow political, so you can not care about politics while caring about the functionality of technology. One overrides the other.
>>51826991
Maybe not chrome directly but the same renderer anyway. Also it supports chrome extensions out of the box (and I heard firefox addons as well soon, thanks to the sdk), so yeah.
>>51822139
>furrymeme ftw
Been using Palememe for about 4 months now. Much lighter than F.F. Titanic on Linux.
>>51826991
Get into changelog for any snapshot at vivaldi.net. Half of them have info about updated chromium version.
>>51827019
It's not subjective, it's a formal definition of poverty set forth by the US Census Bureau
>>51826920
The idea of social justice has very real philosophical basis
Just because i refer to it by its proper name doesn't mean i buy into it you fucking dipshit
Now this is what I call a browser
>>51827043
Wait, that's it? Sneaky fucking bastards...
>>51826979
>The goal of true social justice SHOULD be to eliminate identities, not create more.
that's pretty radical. do you really believe this? eliminating stigma/downsides to identities is a more humanitarian goal.
>>51826387
>In 2013 they spent 50% of their annual budget on the OPW (Outreach Program for Women)
>50% of their annual budget
You don't go full retard. You NEVER go full retard.
>>51827052
>payments on the way...
>>51827059
>Sneaky fucking bastards...
Why? It's the right thing to do (instead of reinventing the wheel and writing their own), and it's what chromium is for by the very mentality of the open source meme 4chan shills so much.
>>51827041
Only downside for PM is that not all addons work like HTTPS everywhere, but there usually is a fork or alternative to use so its all good.
>>51827059
There is probably a mention in licence agreement for legal reasons as well. Other then that nobody really plaster chromium name to much. Opera does the same.
>>51827063
This is downright offensive to everyone they beg for donations, to everyone who uses ff and trusts mozilla to fucking work on making ff a good browser, and to women.
What a fucking load of bullshit mozilla has become
>>51826791
Seems like you had a hard time understanding sarcasm and reading between the lines back then too if you didn't notice you were the odd one out. I sometimes forget autism is a chronic disease and not something you grow out of.
>>51827085
Why is your money is funny?
>>51827061
I think the second you need to identify with a label, especially those which you have no control over; tends to create stigma for not being normative. The fact that there are "normal" ways to exist in the world is fucked up in itself, we're all unique individuals, and we shouldn't need race/sex/gender to define why we like wearing dresses or sitting down to pee even though we've got dicks.
Just do it because you like and that's what makes you, you. It shouldn't need any overall justification outside of that
>>51827104
True enough, but all the ones I care about have workarounds in place--including a fork of HTTPSEverywhere:
https://addons.palemoon.org/resources/incompatible/
>>51827125
kekd
>>51827118
>trying to save face in a dead thread almost a half hour later
kekats, just take the l
>>51822139
>Mozilla is paying $15,000 to replace all of the instances of the word "slave" from the project.
Maybe I am missing something in my naivety, but that sounds like a thing you can do in less than a minute with a simple search and replace?
>>51827005
>Nice pasta
Citation needed.
Are you too incompetent to formulate your own replies?
>>51827171
Money laundering scheme.
>>51827171
No they are hiring women and minorities to do it manually.
>>51827156
I read the whole thread before replying to a post, yes. Good argument, friendster.
>>51827047
That's the very definition of a subjective definition. The vast majority of American poor are wealthier than the vast majority of the the rest of the world rich.
>>51827061
There is no such way to do this because humans are pattern seeking by nature and will immediately go "huh, so all this crime is being done by black people."
>>51827171
Some people have suggested it might also involve changing a bunch of pictures and that, apparently, mozilla's file organization is so terrible just finding the files is a lot of work.
>>51827175
You have the right idea. More of this.
>>51826293
cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/11/26/master.term.reut/
>>51827194
Fair enough, I shouldn't be so harsh on the slow. Nobody is arguing though, take it easy.
>>51824080
They are weeding out the weak and retarded. It's like natural selection, only for technology.
>>51827206
>>51827171
these are also awards and they are just awarding open source projects because they use it a lot
>>51827254
actually it appears to me that artificial props are being used to support them.
>>51827254
Except strong ones are being forcibly killed to protect the weaker and fulfill a diversity quota.
That's literally the opposite of natural selection except for the diversity bit.
Who cares?
>>51827317
/thread
>>51827147
what is adblock latitude like compared to ublock?
>>51827317
Me.
>>51827340
The thread is filled with people who care.
>>51827317
>>51827340
>stop discussing what I don't care about
>>>/out/
>>51827361
Why?
>>51827367
You're not discussing anything. You're throwing a tantrum.
>>51827208
My summation's are quite astute.
Would plainer language suite you better?
>>51827353
exactly the same as adblock plus compared to ublock. latitude is just a fork of adblock plus. either works fine in PM.
>>51827375
It's troublesome that Mozilla is spending money(most of which is donated by the community) and developer time just to censor bad words
>>51827375
Read the thread to find out. :^)
The short of it is I'm a Firefox user and I think this is a waste of time and resources which detracts from the project, Mozilla has been making a lot of bad decisions like this one and it's driving down the project. If it keeps happening Mozilla will be in jeopardy and I'll be left without a browser I actually like.
>>51827395
Wtf are you attacking me for and how the fuck am I throwing a tantrum when I'm telling faggots who tell us to stop talking to gtfo?
>>51827395
>hasty generalization
>>51827404
This, that could actually be my money.
>>51827424
Wrong. You have Vivaldi, Pale Moon or Otter-Browser :)
>>51827424
>Mozilla has been making a lot of bad decisions like this one
this 100x. i'm so done with them now (after using it for over 10 years, and refusing to jump ship to chrome).
>>51827404
>just
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2015/12/10/mozilla-open-source-support-first-awards-made/
Their award will be used to remove the term “slave” from all documentation, APIs and tests, and also to make improvements so Buildbot works better in the Amazon EC2 cloud.
also
> $1 million. The above awards allocate just over half of that money ($503,000)
>>51827404
15k is a paltry amount to a company as big as Mozilla though. I just don't see the big deal also they can spend their money however they see best really you trusted them to spend it when you donated it and this isn't shady or even a big deal.
>>51827398
Your posts make me nostalgic, anon. I miss the old phpBB days when generic posts like yours could be made in reply to any single post and get 50 long-ass replies.
>>51827452
>give homeless guy who begged you 5 dollars for a simple bread meal
>he buys cigarettes and beer with it
>>51827206
>There is no such way to do this because humans are pattern seeking by nature and will immediately go "huh, so all this crime is being done by black people."
dissolving identity won't prevent this from happening, unless all humans look exactly the same.
>>51824934
I know you're trolling because real gee gee is dead as shit and not delusional enough to think they're about to save anything (I hope).
Shit still fucking sucks. /v/, in their darkest and most idiotic moment, gave the social science weenies more of an excuse to entrench themselves in /g/ topics.
>>51827471
Except the bad thing there would be he lied to you if he said he was going to buy bread then buys beer. Has Mozilla lied to you?
>>51827476
I didn't claim otherwise, I'm just pointing out the stupidity of your reasoning.
>>51827452
Still, this comes from a company which does since years nothing more than to copy Google Chrome, humiliate power users, seeing women as the more important part of humanity and removing everything which could theoretically be humiliating for them (word bro deleted out of the source code), angering Christians and conservatives!
Mozilla has to die.
>>51827452
>and this isn't shady
>replace the word "master" + "slave"
>solid business choice. wise use of resources.
k
mfw mozilla will go bankrupt and die in my lifetime.
>>51827496
Yes, anon. Those donations are meant to make improvements to firefox, not for ridiculously stupid stuff like all this master/slave and other bikeshedding feel-good bullshit. It's an objective waste.
>>51827452
The money is not the whole problem, it's the frivolousness of it, it's downright irresponsible to waste donation money when there are real pressing issues. It doesn't matter if they have a lot of money they won't have it for long if they keep wasting it.
>>51827503
Stupid shitposter, get a life
>>51827517
Well when Yahoo gets split up, Mozilla's money is lost, the deal will be cancelled by the new owner.
Mozilla will be screwed in mid/late 2016, mark my words, they are done at that time.
>>51827506
Is deleting the word bro really such a big deal though it just seems that people seem to be more mad that Mozilla made changes to appeal to one group and the people getting mad aren't in that group.
Really does it make any difference yo your user experience if they eliminate slave and bro from things? And be honest.
>>51827517
And Pale Moon will keep going where FF left.
>>51827514
>spend US$15,000 on < 1 day effort by a competent dev.
>>51827541
>STOP OPPRESSING ME
>>51827552
It does. Mozilla should care about power users and keep customization instead of doing such garbage and copying Google Chrome!
If i ever meet with one of that Mozilla guys i will split his head with a bunch of giant axes!
>>51827552
It does. It shows they're wasting time on doing useless bullshit instead of fixing any of the MANY actually important issues that exist atm.
As long as there are tickets on their bug tracker and technical development plans to be worked on, spending time on bikeshedding is completely irresponsible.
>>51827521
>>51827519
Clearly the higher ups at Mozilla believe it to be a good business decision. Since we don't have access to their reasoning for this we can't call it objectively frivolous. We can only subjectively call it frivolous.
>>51827521
>waste donation money
What are you talking about?
The Paris offices with golf leaf ceilings and $12m (Deprecated resale price) of HW to give thousand+ "developers" macbooks pro retinas is totally legit!
>>51827552
Or strangle them with my own bare hands. Looking forward for obliterating some of that lame gay cocksuckers!
>>51827594
>implying higher-ups give a fuck about the proper objective and won't just do whatever to make it look like they're hard at work and deserve more money
>>51822139
this is another case of op and some people being a faggot baiting everyone by misquoting and badly respresnting Mozilla and not discussing the whole blog
if you read the whole sentence the $15,000 isn't just to remove the word slaves it is also
used to remove the term “slave” from all documentation, APIs and tests, and also to make improvements so Buildbot works better in the Amazon EC2 cloud.
also they donated to a whole bunch of other projects and had a million dollars to donate
>>51827594
>appeal to authority
Who are they to say this is an objectively good decision? That's the whole point, this whole thing is a subjective pointless topic, there are technical improvements that could be made which are not up for debate.
>>51827588
>>51827577
How do you know they haven't gotten a lot of complaints about this? Surely if more people complain about this than any other problem it would be in Mozilla's best interest to address this first.
>>51827599
Open source does not imply asceticism.
>>51827636
Well for their company they have the best information to show what would be best for their company. I'm not saying it's inherently correct but their access to information on the business needs of Mozilla is better than our access, do you disagree?
>>51827594
>we can't call it objectively frivolous
but objectively speaking, this is plainly frivolous from a technical viewpoint.
they are obviously simply catering to subjective priorities driven by politics. the change certainly won't improve code maintainability, and is likely to introduce new errors given the kekolding approach to the revisions that are apparently going to be used to accomplish it.
>>51827588
>spending time on bikeshedding is completely irresponsible
not if it gets free advertising and increased donor interest (highly likely, value signalling is profitable)
>>51827637
>more people complaining about bullshit like the technical word slave being used in documentation than there are complaining about objective issues
What kind of fantasy do you live in? You sound like one of those higher-ups yourself with how you justify this shit.
>>51827554
>1 day
Try 1 minute (the time it takes sed to execute), or 1 second (the time it takes to write the sed command).
>>51827670
But from a business standpoint it may not be frivolous. It's very good publicity to say the least.
>>51827685
ik. the extra 7.5h was just to allow a good dev to oversee the process.
>>51827637
You really believe that people want Firefox to be like Google Chrome? Majority of the user base of Firefox have been power users.
What Mozilla does is supporting a minority (simple fags) over the majority. I would call that discrimination. No minority should be treated like they are of more importance.
>>51827670
>this is plainly frivolous from a technical viewpoint
>businesses are strictly technical entities
>>51827704
>ik
>>>/vine/
>>51827706
If a decision makes financial sense how can you not expect Mozilla to do it, also why do you assume power users are the majority? Where are your numbers coming from in that regard?
>>51827663
I do disagree, I think the users would know best given that they are the target the company is targeting. If the users are upset with the product or decisions of the company then they will leave, if the users leave the company will have no investment opportunities or capitol, users are not going to monetarily support a product they no longer use, people don't wish to donate to a cause that wastes their money.
Mozilla has been making very bad decisions recently and users in mass are complaining, I feel like this has already effected their market share and it's only getting worse.
>>51827692
i did in fact mention the subjective gains i believe. objectively from a technical software viewpoint (this is software after all), the move is risky and will likely increase the woes of millions of users.
as a former business owner, i consider that a significant abuse of a functional system for at best dubious claims of benefit.
>>51827731
Normies flock to chrome. Firefox is the only one that ever appealed to powerusers. Firefox catering to normies is strategic suicide.
>>51827707
software businesses are, in fact, highly driven by technical merits. or should be at least.
>>51827743
why are you a "former" business owner? is it because you don't understand concepts such as pr and advertising?
>>51827734
That their market share is dwindling is exactly why a large publicity move, like this, to generate good will and to get their name out there is a good decision. 15k is not a lot from a marketing stand point, I do Web dev for marketing firm so I can assure you small as shit companies spend 15 k a month for basic marketing.
>>51827760
i imagine i have a much better grasp on them than you do friend. my point still stands.
>>51827731
Mozilla shill detected!
Firefox was always the browser which power users have been using. That is not enough for Mozilla, they are jealous at Google Chrome, as this is the most used browser world wide. So they just hope to get with that changes most Chrome users.
Take a look, where are the Chrome users? Instead Firefox has so far since the Chrome changes lost almost half of their users.
You are nothing more than a provocative simple fag. Shut the fuck up cocksucker!
>>51827778
>they are jealous at Google Chrome,
Actually as the primary funder of Mozilla, Google is simply carrying out a crafted plan to put Mozilla under w/o running afoul of US antitrust practices legislation.
>>51827778
I'm as annoyed as you are about mozilla, but you and all your other obviously recognizable posts are getting really fucking annoying. In fact lots of people over time have pointed out you're really fucking annoying.
>>51827758
>software businesses are, in fact, highly driven by technical merits
that falls somewhere between idealism and ignorance depending on how generous i feel like being
>>51827823
you're feelings are irrelevant in sound business principles friend.
>>51827763
There in lies the problem, this isn't a large publicity move, I'd rather they spent the money on actual marketing. This move only serves to further annoy existing users while bringing in no new ones, hence why it's being called a waste.
In practical terms how many people do you think are not using Firefox because the build processs sues the word "slave", in addition to that do you think such an effort really demands 15K to do? They should spend that money and time refactoring their project structure if that's the actual cost.
To repeat myself too, it's not the amount it's the direction, bad decisions and waste are just that and it reflects badly on the company making them which in the end is bad for them when dealing with investors. All that trickles down too, if Mozilla does poorly that's bad for the users as well.
>>51827731
It is only about jealousy as already was written here. The bigger a company gets, the more greedy they become. Opera did the same.
That guys also had as majority of their user-base power users, they too killed all their unique features to become Chrome literally.
Companies have to understand that Google Chrome is no holy land, no state of the art or optimum which should be reached. Smaller companies can not survive without their Geeks.
Opera is already in heavy trouble, they are getting in danger of getting sold, Mozilla is also running more and more into problems. No one wanted their phones, no one wanted to advertise in their tiles.
The more smaller browser projects anger their core users, with each user which leaves the boat the importance for advertisers or web designers is shrinking, the more user loss, the less influence into decisions which web drafts should be discarded and which ones should be finished.
>>51827465
Indeed.
>>51827847
>because the build processs sues the word "slave",
No matter what it would legitimately only be the _minority_.
>>51827832
fully agree. but the feelings of customers and the general public really, _really_ are not. business live and die on emotional appeals. ask anyone involved in advertising or sales
>>51827891
>>>/b/
>>51827891
Not him, but be careful with that edge. I almost cut myself.
>>51827731
>why do you assume power users are the majority
I'd say history and the fact that every time Mozilla makes a decision like this that marginalizes the power users there is a big outcry.
Remember in order to be a Firefox user you had to have a reason to use a better browser than Internet Explorer which nobody really has except power users, Chrome still gets these people if only from their installer partnerships installing it with other software and setting it as the default. You have to make a conscious decision to be a Firefox user, you have to want a better than stock browser for some reason.
>>51827909
You really believe you can anger people and then you expect that you get nothing back? From which planet are you actually?
>>51827929
Are you Russian by chance? I'm just curious I don't mean anything behind that question. Someone else may poke fun if you answer that but it's not me.
>>51827911
Well, as sign of good will i have deleted that post. Perhaps i was getting a bit too angry, but if someone is angering me, he/she runs in danger to get a "nice response" or if i know that person in real time it gets in danger that i belt them one, or 2, depending how peacefully i am feeling right now.
>>51827873
As primarily an engineering endeavor software is subject to good engineering principles. One of the first and foremost of these is
>"If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"
A very solid reason needs to be demonstrated to take on the expense (and especially the risk of damage) making a system-wide change to an already functioning system. As I stated earlier, this little 'project' doesn't demonstrate this, and is, in fact, simply a stunt intended to cater to the SJW powers overseeing this failing institution.
Meh, they will soon be entirely irrelevant at this rate so they're bad choices will eventually result in abusing fewer and fewer users. I already left them awhile back after over 10 years, as I mentioned previously ITT.
>>51827953
the only thing which is relating me to Russia is the love for their Wodka and the love for Vladimir Putin, a guy who knows how to handle threats, not a weak guy like Muslim invader Obama!
>>51827891
wew lad
>>51827891
Why was this post deleted?
>>51828005
I was just judging it off your English, I like to know these things so that I can build a profile of how people from country X speak English, it helps me better understand them. Like pigeon language, you know?
>>51828046
He deleted his own post
>>51827968
>>51828047
He's clearly not a stable person, so I doubt he speaks like your average citizen of wherever he's from.
>>51827731
>If a decision makes financial sense how can you not expect Mozilla to do it
Instead of just feebly smashing the keyboard you should consider whether their shrinking usage and dwindling revenue streams are a result of these actions. They are on a direct path to insolvency.
>>51828046
He lost his temper.
>>51828178
7/10
Not enough CIA niggers trying to kill you in 1998.
>>51828178
Edgy as fuck
>>51828082
I am just no Christian fool who allows their enemy to belt them one's into the face without an adequate answer!
>>51828215
I think he's promoting Islam not Christianity. Terry would never act this way!
>>51828240
Haha... i am no Muslim, i am Atheist. That gives me the freedom to curse others with an invasion of another religion :P
>>51828240
In fact if the world would get rid of all religions the world would be a more peaceful place.
>>51827050
no it doesn't
>>51828298
This is some pretty weak bait.
>>51827953
Poccия!!!
>>51828298
I think it keeps some people in check to be honest but now is not the time or place to discuss it, thread's about to die and it's off topic.
>>51828332
That guy is not as stupid as he wrote earlier. Why is that so wrong? Christians against Muslims, Jews against the rest of the world, Hinduism against Muslims, i very much agree with that idea that religion is an universal curse which should be wiped out as soon as possible.
>>51828339
Seems that thread is anyway almost dead, when someone starts to flame in a disgusting way, it is time to let it die and open a clean one where people at least still have half of a brain
>>51828058
No, he's getting banned because this is 4chan, a safe space to discuss technology.
>>51828361
>>51828231
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>>51828389
Never seen so far anyone here who has managed to get hit by the ban hammer
>>51828273
Who do you think your fooling?
>>51828413
>I'm an oldfag, I've been there all day XD
>t. long-time redditard XDXD
This one is dead, move on, nothing to see here anymore!
>>51828389
>a safe space to discuss technology.
>heh it's important to mek the internet a safe space right?
>then no one can call them out on the mindless BS
seen this pattern going down on 4chinz happen several times now.
>>51828473
This safe space just got turned into a scary discrace
>>51828386
It's like monkeys flinging poo except it was terrorists making threats. I have a screenshot but don't want to make the mods job harder.
>>51828498
Yeah, SJWs hate that.
>>51828527
There is a difference between terrorists and just butthurt insane people.
To be honest, i hardly think that any terrorist is interested to enter this messy place where only insane posters are writing stuff.
>>51827891
>>51827929
>>51827968
>>51828035
>>51828178
>>51828231
>tfw when the average anti-Mozilla shitposter is actually an IS supporter
I'll never take you people seriously again.
>>51828527
Or has 4chan ever been more than a place for lame sociopaths or attention whores ore people without life? No offense but that is the sad truth. I am for sure also no difference or i would not be writing this crap right now :P
>>51828601
*lol* There are also Anti Mozilla posters around which can be taken seriously. And btw. Mozilla has done enough garbage to justify every single post which has been written against them.
chrome has a faster js engine
which is why I use chrome
>>51828570
Terrorists are crazy.
>>51828665
And you know that Chrome is a non customizable proprietary program? Wrong choice pal, wrong choice! Otter Browser 4 life!
>>51828665
but js is harmful and should always be blocked
>>51828673
Terrorists do not waste their time into that place. Nothing to blow up, nothing to kill. Waste of time. Also, nothing worth to hack.
>>51828605
It a place for people to waste time, however they express that is up to them. We may not have the life or attitude that society dictates we should have, but why should I care about someone's expectations. I'd rather be happy.
>>51828601
Just curious, why do you think you can say that your random daily shit poster is an IS supporter? This concept makes no sense!
>>51828885
Nothing against it, otherwise i would do something different by now. But the problem is many people here are taking everything too serious and are acting in an irrational and bewildering way quite often.
>>51828665
>2016
>allowing JS
![FAQ3-Fig1-2012[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/RYbmogh.png "FAQ3-Fig1-2012[1]")
