>>51696131
Unstable af

>>51696131
mint is objectively better

Autism

>>51696229
Yeah, I love using versions of GNOME programs from 2010 because the new versions of GTK3 are evil and scary, with their differently-positioned title bar buttons. Cinnamon is so good.

>>51696131
Nothing against it. Happy with Arch. I like my system bloat free

It's great but there is one huge problem.

RPM Fusion.
It's fucking garbage, you'll most likely end up needing it and everything is out of date and the quality of the spec files is generally awful.

I ended up setting up my own repo with a bunch of shit from RPM Fusion updated and cleaned up.

>>51696131
i prefer funtoo with kde. don't want systemd or gnome.

>>51696229
mint has outdated packages

>>51696131
My computer crashed on boot 2 times out of 3 when i was using Fedora, although I lovedit.
I'm on Mint now, and it sucks but it works.

>>51696665
u mean stable?

>>51696827
I mean obsolete.
Check out Codelite, the apt version won't even launch.

>>51696827
No, Debian, I will not give you a second chance. systemd 227-2 was the last straw.

Just what is systemd and why should I hate it?

I've been running Fedora for a few days and I really like it, but it feels a lot less polished than Ubuntu Gnome that I switched from. Hell of a lot less pre-installed software though, that's nice.

>>51696131
Still uses X.

>>51696877
Nobody cares about it unless it ceases functioning properly, it's perfectly fast and I like systemctl's style. I just don't like that people who don't want it can't easily avoid using it. What if there's an application where such a thing is too heavy, or not appropriate for the task?

>>51696653
>muh sysvinit
>>51696877
A suite of tools and libraries who make the basic userland in a Linux system.
Autists hate it because is new.

>>51696235
nice b8 m8 !

>TOTOROTISM

>>51696889
is there anything that ships with a fully functional DE + wayland now?

>>51696948
As I know? Nothing.
Fedora could fill that category, but still uses X for a lot of things.

>>51696131

both Ubantu and Fedora fail to boot into live environment when you have integrated and a dedicated video card. Nouvaeu drivers are shit. Linux is still shit, open sores is a marxist SJW infiltrated farce.

Because opensuse tumbleweed has a more up to date gnome.

*tips*

>>51696957
Wayland itself uses X for a lot of things (XWayland.) Old shit like GTK2 is still rotting in there.

>>51696994
this is the result of having a cancerous combo gpu setup in a laptop, your fault for purchasing it.

>>51696994
Never had this problem on my laptop with nvidia+hd4000

>>51696131
It's a binary dist.