What will Samsung fuck up next? edition
Also Taiwan is a country edition
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POST WHAT COUNTRY YOU ARE IN WHEN SEEKING PURCHASING ADVICE
A general thread to collect all of the smartphone threads into one place
Suggestions to this general OP post are appreciated!
>YouTube Reviewers
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheAngelofmusic1989
https://www.youtube.com/user/marquesbrownlee
https://www.youtube.com/user/AndroidAuthority
https://www.youtube.com/user/pocketnowvideo
https://www.youtube.com/user/gadgetmatch
>/g/ Approved Review Sites
http://www.gsmarena.com
http://www.phonearena.com
http://www.notebookcheck.net
>Anon's Mobile Device Guide:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxMugiNgJ2qteHBfNFJyLUgxN1k/view
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WI4dKGcwWjn5XpTgfLsK8c0cipRzrWbVpiLGeVr55Ks/htmlview?sle=true)
>To see if your phone (model) would work somewhere else in the world or just different carrier:
http://willmyphonework.net
>/spg/ Wikia
http://smartphone-general-spg.wikia.com/wiki/Smartphone_General_-_/spg/_Wikia
FEEL FREE TO HELP EDIT
>/g/ Approved brands:
* Nexus because of updates, unlocked to carriers, and good value
* Samsung because of pure performance even despite touchwiz, also best cameras
* Motorola for being near stock, good value, reliable phones that are also unlocked
* LG for still offering removable batteries and SD card slots
* Oneplus if you want decent phones, but don't care if you get warranty support
* Firefox fx0 for $60, it's the ultimate poorfag phone.
* Sony for offering great values, great performance
>>51634423
>Samsung because of pure performance
Really?
>>51634477
Yeah, the Exynos versions of their phones perform pretty fucking amazingly. Their cameras are also top tier.
>>51634423
>8k resolution
>still extremely thin
yea hf with 1 hour battery life.
this is my favorite /g/ subreddit
>>51634525
Obviously it's some fanboy being stupid
>>51634528
Thanks snoo
>tfw was going to buy a 5x today because i thought the deal ended after dec. 1st
>it already ended
back to $380 fucking dollars for a 5x? what is google thinking?
>>51634553
Exactly, especially considering that the damn thing is a lag machine
The Nexus 6 from last year is still 339 or whatever on Amazon
>tfw I feel no reason to upgrade from my N5
has phone tech plateaued?
>>51634553
5x isn't good anyway. Stay away from it.
What do you generally use your phones for? Do you feel you're ever really making use of that 2+GB RAM and quad core processing power?
>>51634612
Nah, just it seems the phone companies fucked up this year. Snapdragon had issues, companies removed features, batteries didn't increase enough to make up for higher powered GPUs and larger res screens, and more companies went to locked bootloaders.
what's the deal with sony phones
why does no one buy them
"premium" build
sd cards
goat battery life
near to stock android
smooth
What's the catch ?
>>51634585
i don't want an older phone because that's a year i'm going to miss out on android updates.
I like using my phone for at least three years and that likely means i'll miss out on updates after two years.
>>51634423
Why don't you put the damn subject in the subject field
The last thread had this too, thought it was just a mistake
>>51634673
They do here
>source: yurop
But mostly it's because they aren't marketing as aggressively as Apple or Samsung
>>51634679
Fuck me in the dick, it's cause I posted from clover and forgot to do it. Still shows up if you search it.
>>51634674
Yeah, same thing for me.
>>51634673
expensive as fuck and hard to get.
>>51634679
because he's a retarded tripfag that just wants attention
>>51634747
You know I turn off my trip a lot right? Go gag on a cock
>>51634673
Prices and marketing
Personally I'm quite a fan of Sony's output. Only current phone that really interests me is the Z3 Compact
>>51634760
You know there's also no reason to keep it on? At least in all your posts here. It screams attention whore desu
And here I am giving you it
>>51634789
I know, it lets me know that you love me senpai
>>51634801
faggot
>>51634477
really senpai
>>51634816
Yes please more attention
>>51634822
>benchmarks = real life performance
jesus christ, you're fucking retarded
>>51634423
Taiwan is a country?
>>51634822
Benchmarks don't mean shit
>>51634494
http://www.futuremark.com/hardware/mobile
Thats not true. Exynos variants of various Samsung phones (S5, Note 3) achieve much lower scores than their Snapdragon counterparts.
>>51634842
yeah
>Taiwan (Listeni/ˌtaJˈwɑːn/; Chinese: 臺灣 or 台灣; pinyin: Táiwān; see below), officially the Republic of China (ROC; Chinese: 中華民國; pinyin: Zhōnghuá Mínguó), is a sovereign state in East Asia.
>>51634477
Yes. Their current exynos leaves anything in the dust, but the a9 in the new iPhones.
The upcoming 8xxx series exynos already got 103k in antutu, which is absolutely insane, considering that the last is around 70k and still better than 90% of alternate solutions in the smartphone marked.
>>51634869
also, unless they changed shit since the GS2/3 era exynos is a PITA to work on from a custom ROM perspective
cont from the last thread, I'm still not fully convinced whether I should get 1+1 or z3. so far, it seems like z3 might be a better option
I've made a poll
https://strawpoll.me/6152915
>>51634869
Why are you bringing up phones that are 2 years old?
>>51634882
That has not changed and isn't likely to change
>>51634869
>s5
>note 3
Literally who?
>>51634897
Well, I'm eager to see your proofs about the superiority of current Exynoc SoCs.
>>51634870
I call BS
>>51634923
Just look up benchmarks for the S6 and Note5 faggot, never bring up 2 year old fucking devices
>>51634897
Looking at that link the latest Exynos chip (in the S6/Note 5 series) is getting beat out by the SD805/808/810
>>51634923
No the guy you are responding to, but I wrote >>51634878.
Just look up any benchmarks. The S6/edge/note 5 blows absolutely anything out of the water. The Snapdragon 810 is utterly outclassed, which is a shame, really. Qualcomm must get it's shit together, if they still want to compete.
>>51634673
releases phones too fast, pretty expensive too
>>51634937
Well, you can call whatever you want, sunshine, that doesn't change the truth.
>>51634965
The 808 is even worse, Snapdragon really hasn't been at the top for 2 years now.
If the rumors about Marshmallow fixing touchwiz' aggressive ram management are true, then Samsung will come out as the clear indisputable performance winners of all smartphones.
How come the iphone 6s is never mentioned in these threads?
>>51635072
because it's shit
get the 5S if you want to be a faggot
>>51635030
http://www.futuremark.com/hardware/mobile+ice_storm_unlimited/filter/+android+ios+winrt+windows
Droid Turbo 2 (S810) gets better scores than, for example, S6 Edge+ (E7420)
>>51634423
>What will Samsung fuck up next? edition
>Not "What will Apple fuck up next?" Edition
>removal of 3,5 headphone jack
>>51635072
1. iPhones are overpriced
2. iPhones are always playing catchup with the features of Android
3. Crap batteries
4. Shitty build quality despite "premium" feel
5. iTunes faggotry
6. Closed ecosystem
>>51635081
It's far from shit, just shit for the money
>>51635094
>removal of 3,5 headphone jack
Saw someone actually defending this were it to be true
>>51635030
>The 808 is even worse, Snapdragon really hasn't been at the top for 2 years now.
Pretty much. Their last good soc was the higher binned 805 used in the Note 4 and Nexus 6.
Both chips are also HOUSEFIRES as well. Hopefully they'll get the heat problem sortet out before their 820 launch or it's gonna be another embarrassing year for qualcomm.
>>51635094
We don't bother really talking about Apple here, we all know buying an iPhone is the same as eating shit from your own hands
>>51634840
>>51634866
If a phone passes most of the larger benchmarks for Android with high score, that actually *does* mean shit.
Sure, you only need more processing power than like a fucking $100 phone has for games and a few more things anyways, but if you do these specific things, I guess maybe you might like a high-end processor.
>>51634423
>8K
Fuck that, there is no need to go above 1080p other than power consumption. Just imagine how good this monstrous GPU would perform on a 1080p screen
>>51635114
Is this what poorfag lagdroids say to make them feel better about their device?
>>51635148
sure, but check other benchmarking software and you see that the Exynos got rekt >>51634869
>>51635094
Please 2,5mm jack
>>51635087
Well good for them for scoring slightly better in the GPU department, but it still doesn't change the fact that the stock ARM cores they're using right now are utter garbage, or at least on 20/28nm.
>>51635155
I'd rather have a Nexus 6P at the same price as an iShit 6s+, but good thing it's like 350 bucks cheaper.
I could fucking buy a Nexus 6P and a fucking Nexus 5x for the same price as a iShit 6s+.
iPhones are notorious for getting slower after each update, while in general, Android updates improve a phone.
iPhones are the beats of smartphones.
>>51635155
lmao, keep trying to damage control this, iFag, but iPhone are shit for the price
>>51635191
heh, I remember an image like this years ago, think it still used a Nexus 4 as comparison but it was a different iPhone
>>51635189
https://youtu.be/tTIaUH6PIvo
nothanksjeff
Is it true that Iphones only get 1 year of warranty from the istore?
Someone post their eat shit from their own hands pictures
>>51635238
yeah
>>51635238
That's pretty much true of any phone unless you buy an extra warranty
>>51635229
Oh, like iPhones don't bend? Anything with a metal unibody bends like that.
Faggot.
>>51635262
>That's pretty much true of any phone unless you buy an extra warranty
what?
Most phones have 24 months, no?
>>51635087
SD810 scores slightly better than the Exynos 7420 because Adreno 430 is a bigger GPU than the Mali T760MP8 in the Exynos.
However, because most workloads are mixed CPU, GPU, memory, etc. PURE GPU power isn't always what you want, and rarely is it what you want on a phone.
Exynos 7420 wipes the floor with all of qualcomms offerings this year, and it's rather sad that the exynos 7420 came out in April and nothing has come from qualcomm to answer back. All the SD810 phones that came out this year run hot, some are better than others, but it is obvious the 20nm process SD810 is built on is just too large, Exynos being on 14nm means it wins 2015. Period.
>>51635262
>That's pretty much true of any phone unless you buy an extra warranty
Nope, electronic products in the EU have to give you a 2 year warranty by law.
But I heard Apple gets away with only 1 year for some reason
Anybody notice how smartphone generals are always full of vocal tech illiterates like the op?
It's like having a toilet paper general, everyone will have an opinion because everybody wipes their butts. (except Indians)
>>51635277
>>51635286
Not in the US they do not.
Does Apple not have to obey the 2 year warranty in the EU?
>>51635262
no, they actually don't
https://youtu.be/Ve4sejMLkUw
Faggot.
>>51635303
Lmao check out this faggot
>>51635304
Just checked the local retailer here
Pretty much every other phone was 2 years
But the iDevices were 1 year
It's pretty god damn sad that people take phones this seriously... One of the ugliest forms of Capitalistic brainwashing in existence right now.
What is the "best" phone for heaving gaming/emulators?
EUbased
>>51635304
Not sure if anyone has tried to make a big case out of it, but I think they are obligated by EU law, it's standard for electronic equipment.
A 1 year warranty on a 700+ dollar phone is fucking ridiculous
>>51634423
>Curves extend to the edges of the phone
How the hell do you hold that thing?
>>51635309
>hurr I'll just ignore the original 6+ bending
no u
>>51635164
Website doesn't seem to respond at this point.
Well, can't be too terrible, can it?
>>51635155
Actually the iPhone is a shit deal. But if you think spending extra money on poorfag devices makes you appear rich...
looking for the "best" tablet for 200€
>>51635191
>Supposed list of pros/cons for each device
No mention of camera specs
No mention of CPU and RAM specs
No mention of storage capacity
No mention of of battery capacity
No mention of malware in google play
No mention of resale value
No mention of build quality
Our Android friends are gullible if they believe that image.
>>51635309
So you'll ignore the original 5 bending, and all the other ones?
I'm not defending huaweii, but it's not like this isn't something that happens to all metal unibody phones. I wish the metal unibody meme would fucking end.
>>51635321
lewronggeneration
>>51635333
how the hell do people hold the current S6 edge and S6 edge+?
>>51635359
>No mention of build quality
>impyling the N4 didn't have god tier build quality
you iFags have nothing to say here
>>51635359
Jesus fuck stop this Apple phones have excellent build quality meme
They fucking don't, feeling nice =/= build quality
They use largely the same shit everyone else does you fucking faggot
>>51635358
Some variant of a Teclast x98 or something like it, probably.
>>51634423
do you guys think that apple will really release an iphone without headphone jack? or just their modified new one.
if anyone is looking for a budgetphone in europe check out wileyfox or bq. They released phones that ship with cyanogenOS. So you'll get a tad more privacy than on regular android
>>51635282
Comparing android socs are pointless because they're all essentially cortex rebrands.
Oh look, a processor that can use enough ram for lagwiz /s
http://www.gforgames.com/gadgets/snapdragon-830-8gb-ram-support-50702/
>>51635407
Snapdragon CPUs (Except for the "we got caught with our pants around our ankles" 810) are also custom design
>>51635407
sorry but comparing fabrication process is NOT pointless
SD810 is fabricated on a 20nm process
Exynos 7420 is fabricated on 14nm process
These are facts that effect how the SoCs perform.
Okay?
>>51635452
>the node size is the only factor in performance
what
>>51635438
Exynos 8890 is a custom core design too, whats your point?
>>51635452
Why am I imagining some indian guy wrote this?
>>51635472
That's not what he said
>>51635438
Krait is derived from the a15 last time I checked.
>>51635407
Uh, what? No, that's not how it works.
Sure, about everyone that doesn't use an Intel licenses and adapts ARM gear, but they're not all the same.
>>51635472
>the only factor in performance
Well when you have 2 8 core SoCs BOTH using 4x Cortex A53 and 4x Cortex A57 cores.
The one on the smaller process is going to perform better.
>>51635474
Well, then they aren't all just "essentially cortex rebrands", now are they?
And I was only using SD as an example you cunt
>>51635491
>although it has architectural similarities, Krait is not a Cortex-A15 core, but it was designed in-house
no
>>51635495
SD810/SD808 and Exynos 7420 are cortex rebrands though.
>>51635515
They literally took the early a15 blueprint and copied it then released it a year early. Only a newfag wouldn't know this.
>>51635535
The 808/810 are QC's black sheep after apple got the jump on them with their 64bit CPU
The 820 will be custom design again
>>51635566
That's fine, the discussion however WAS specifically oriented towards the Exynos 7420 and SD810.
Can someone explain me why 8K on a 5.1"/5.7" screen?
>>51635566
>a72
>custom
>>51635557
Would be nice for you to back your claims, until you do I'll just go with the fact that A15 and Krait are siblings that both use the ARMv7 arch
Probably gona pick up a used/refurbished m8 off ebay for the time being, anyone have any experience with them?
>>51635601
Fanboy delusions or VR
>>51635611
The SD620 was A72, SD820 will be Kryo though, which is custom
>>51635594
Samshit always loses because the locked down piece of shit won't ever allow you to do anything other than facebook
>>51635634
Why VR needs more than 4k?
>>51635618
Shits been discussed to death since the a9 days, look it up on the archives if you're genuinely interested
Otherwise shut the fuck up newfag
>>51635686
Oh ok, so you can't back up your claim yourself
got it
>>51635701
>>51635686
Isn't this easily sourced? Why don't one of you provide some sources on this?
>fast as fuck, no lag, impeccable performance
>industry leading camera
>exceptional battery life
>stock android
>5 inch screen
>good build quality, durable, not bendable
why doesn't this exist yet it's such a no brainer
>>51635647
mhm sure whatever you say
>>51635701
Go pound sand faggot, I'm not wasting my time on a drive by shitposter like you
>>51635670
VR will always benefit from greater pixel density.
8k, 16k etc, it will improve the experience.
>>51635710
Alright, here's my source
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4170/qualcomms-announces-krait-cpu-the-successor-to-scorpion
>Krait, like Scorpion before it, is a ground-up CPU design by Qualcomm
could easily find more
meanwhile that fag can't find shit and resorts to insults :^)
>>51635724
Yeah there's always a fucking negative point about a phone
Maybe a Nexus 5x 2nd gen with a Snapdragon 820 would meet those requirements
>>51635735
Oh wow you wrote something on stock touchwiz
We got the the next ahmed over here
>>51635776
The only thing I cant do on this phone is root it, and there isn't a single thing I would use my phone for that would require me to root it.
And I would lose the ability to use mobile payments, which I use daily.
Stay cuc.ked into buying worse hardware because you can't live without root.
i'm deciding to buy the oneplus one but i'm wondering if their customer support is really that bad? i'm european, is there any other european who had any experience with them? thanks
>>51635800
I used to use root for a lot of things on shitty android phones years ago, but now, the only thing I need is adaway, and even that can be replaced by adguard
Also I could just buy apps and have no adds anymore, and go with the best phone instead of worrying about root, however, it does really bother me when I don't have total control over a device
>>51635724
http://www.bq.com/gb/aquaris-x5?
>>51635800
>The only thing I cant do on this phone is root
Aha
Ahahahahahahhaahhahahaba
>>51635816
Check out the Moto G 2015 with 2GB RAM
or
Sony Xperia Z3 or Z3C
>>51635846
lmao it's a fucking iPhone ripoff
>snapdragon 412
lmao
>>51635761
And the battery?
>>51635838
Stop sharing your useless opinion on everything, goddamn
>>51635871
pic related
>>51635855
so its a direct "avoid them" i guess?
the moto seems nice but i'm wondering because my friend owned a 1+1 since a year and it is working still fine
>>51635852
The only kids who still think rooting is necessary are the same ones who were doing it back in highschool but never grew up. I used to do it too when it actually gave me shit like usb tethering, custom launchers, etc.
Now I can do all that shit in android itself. Why the fuck would I want to root, especially when I lose out on features that I use on a daily basis (mobile payments being a BIG one living in a big city, I use all the fucking time)
>>51635885
>but I need to be in the center of attention
>-every tripfag
>>51635885
>>51635903
>The only kids who still think rooting is necessary are the same ones who were doing it back in highschool
>adblocking
>titanium backup
>doze configurator
my main reasons for rooting
>>51635897
I personally wouldn't suggest a phone to someone if the company has a bad reputation for standing behind their product
That being said, Moto's customer support has gone to shit since Lenovo bought them.
Seems that /g/ is a big fan of Sony's devices lately.
>>51635906
Thanks for the attention frienderino
>>51635846
>>51635892
I love it when phone manufacturers try too hard to be Apple and lagdroid fags rave over their products.
>>51635816
What customer support do you expect to need?
Personally, I don't care to deal with some service center somewhere, and they do some software and ROM updates, sure. If they don't, there still are 3rd parties.
I went with Xiaomi myself, though.
>>51635903
Calm down, don't blow yourself up ahmed
>>51635937
>literally one guy posted a link
>rave over their product
k
>>51635924
>adblocking
doesnt need root anymore.
>titanium backup
works on non-rooted phones now
I'll give you the doze configurator.
>>51635937
Fuck off iShill, stop eating shit from your hands
>>51635903
>mobile payments
system-less root fucko :^)
>>51635892
>>51635871
I don't really care about that. comes with cyanogenOS and still looks good imo. Downside is the non removable battery. They shouldn't copy apple in this way
>>51635959
>doesnt need root anymore
Routing your shit through a localhost is slow as fuck and wastes battery.
Only a retard buys a phone without root capability.
>>51635935
so even moto g is at the same level of oneplus? why wouldn't i just spend 100€ more and buy a device with 801 instead of 410 now that both supports suck? sony devices look nice but they're out of my price range..
>>51635942
i don't really expect my phone to break, i'm just being paranoid and don't want to throw money away on something that may break 1 month after
i'm really undecided here
>>51635959
>doesnt need root anymore.
oh, don't you dare post that fucking VPN workaround
Currently rooting is the best way to get unobrtusive system-wide ad blocking
>works on non-rooted phones now
that Google Drive backup shit that Google brought in in 6.0 doesn't work with every app
>>51635403
I don't think they will, but I think if they do people will eat it up regardless and it'll simply be glossed over despite being a pretty major change. They'll come with a pair of lightning connector earphones or whatever they call them and for most people that'll be enough because Apple
>>51635998
IDK how much the sony products cost, I figured the Z3C was cheaper cause it's so small. They're not easy to buy here in the US.
How much is the Moto X Style for you?
What about the 2014 Moto X?
What about LG phones? LG G3? G4?
>>51635897
Of course it is still fine, like basically all smartphones - which even fail in a year?
Just know /g/ has a fair amount of people (usually US citizens) with anti-China sentiments, even for devices, which aren't exactly based on facts.
>>51636049
Keep in mind that we can't really get the nicer Chinese phones here because they don't make US band versions. Sure you could use them on ATT/Tmobile, but they won't have the band support. The only real exposure the US has had has been in the prepaid market and the Nexus 6P.
>>51636043
>z3c: 420€
>style: 469€
>moto x 2nd: 331€
>g3 (32gb): 279€
>g4: 479€
i ignored the moto x for its short battery, the g3 for its insane QHD resolution that doesn't work well with the chipset and sucks battery, and the others for the price.
>>51636049
i hope it will at least last me two years, as for the bands i'm in europe so that shouldn't be a problem
>>51636084
Fuck you tripfag
>>51636160
Z3c tbqh family
>>51636160
You might want to look into Huaweii and Xiaomi, but I don't know enough about them to make a good rec.
>>51636167
You know you're not going to make me go away, right?
>>51635998
>i don't really expect my phone to break, i'm just being paranoid and don't want to throw money away on something that may break 1 month after
You obviously won't, unless you happen to be the very rare unlucky guy who just had an issue that slipped QC or happened during transport or whatever.
>>51636084
Yes, but that is kind-of the point then.
Apparently even without exposure and testing to anything much, you have a strong opinion on the devices... rather than none?
That's the "not exactly based on facts" part.
>>51636194
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>>51636206
>>51636227
>Apparently even without exposure and testing to anything much, you have a strong opinion on the devices... rather than none?
>That's the "not exactly based on facts" part.
I agree with you, Americans will shit on chinkshit despite the fact that they willingly buy chinkshit for everything else. It's ignorant.
>>51636160
>i hope it will at least last me two years, as for the bands i'm in europe so that shouldn't be a problem
It should. No absolute guarantees, but no reason why it wouldn't.
>>51636255
>>51636256
>It should. No absolute guarantees, but no reason why it wouldn't.
I thought that the US was the only place to have to worry about bands. Aren't all the international unlocked phones good on bands for you EU guys?
if i was to buy the xiaomi mi4c, could i install any custom rom? i don't really like its UI
>>51636306
get out
>>51636306
hey m8
Any info on the S7 yet? Release date etc?
>>51636521
>Release date
2016, summer-ish
>>51636439
>xiaomi mi4c
I think there is some support for it, from a quick browse on XDA.
Keep in mind that Xiaomi phones don't come with google apps, it uses some other app store so you have to get a different rom on it or at least flash gapps onto it to get that support.
>>51636521
Usually they are announced at the World Mobile Phone Congress, which is in Feb this year.
>>51636531
I'd expect it to be more like March like usual, why are you saying summer?
Guys, help me pick out a christmas gift for myself. I have some ideas already
I don't wanna go too much over 300€ (from portugal)
-XiaoMi redmi note 2: can't because of band compatibility issues
-Moto X 2nd gen
-Oneplus one or Oneplus X (don't know how the invite system works)
-Huawei Ascend G7
I just wanted something with a somewhat good camera and preferably >5inch display
>>51636531
>summer
FUCK
I have an S4 that I kind of want to upgrade.
>>51636306
That was a response to the two years part.
Yes, the bands are entirely fine in the EU. Actually they're fine for pretty much any FDD-LTE Chinese smartphones that are on the export market.
Basically all FDD-LTE phones have at least bands 3,7 are really about anywhere in Europe:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks_in_Europe
In some places it's convenient to have support for band 20, too, and maybe you're unlucky with your provider, but usually just 3 & 7 is fine.
For 3g and 2g, there shouldn't usually be much of a problem either.
>>51636542
>>51636550
>I'd expect it to be more like March like usual, why are you saying summer?
idk, pulled it out my ass
Checked the released dates for the S4, S5 and S6 and they were all in april, so probs around april, then
What's the consensus on huge battery monster phones? Anyone supporting the niche?
Hi everyone, I'm looking for an Android phone preferably not over 5,5" that's around a €300 budget. I would use it for music (a lot) combined with some browsing and rarely games. Must have a decent battery, not anything overly impressive but decent.
>EU
Thanks
>>51636584
iPhone 6S Plus
>>51636596
>>51636542
>Keep in mind that Xiaomi phones don't come with google apps, it uses some other app store so you have to get a different rom on it or at least flash gapps onto it to get that support.
Hm. Half correct.
You *do* actually have Google Play on the also considered "stock" Global ROM (they're literally listed on http://en.miui.com/ 's device download sections, next to the Chinese ROMs)... this is what most resellers flash on the phones they export anyways, if it's not a crapware laden ROM of their own choice.
On the Chinese ROMs, you can trivially install it by flashing it or using the installer thing you can get from the built-in store app.
>>51636630
Ah that's good to know, I saw lots of people talking about needing to flash gapps on them, they must be buying Chinese versions then
>>51636584
Z3 Compact
god-like battery life
>>51636584
Redmi 2 2GB RAM (should be $100-120 shipped) / Note 2 32GB storage edition ($160-170 shipped). Or a Mi4c. Or a OnePlus X.
Or just one of the battery monsters on GSMArena, if you prefer.
>>51635766
Nah, this is the last year for the Nexus line. next year will introduce the pixel phone.
>>51634585
I just ended up buying the Nexus 6 when my old phone broke. The 5X is $740 here in Aus, whereas the 6 is about $550, so no competition there. Keeping it stock for now but as soon as the updates stop I'm rooting.
>>51636710
So phones that never get released?
>>51636675
The OPX is aesthetically very nice. The OPO has better specs though or the Moto G seems to fit my needs for a lower price. Sadly the Z3C's price is too high. What should I do?
>>51636710
>Nah, this is the last year for the Nexus line. next year will introduce the pixel phone.
source:
my anus
>>51636696
hey daddy
>>51636725
hey friend
>>51636649
You actually generally are buying a Chinese version of the phone.
The odd person might have bought in India or such, but that's generally not who is reselling to the worldwide markets.
It's generally just a question of whether your reseller installed the Global ROM (or like, a crappy adware-filled derivative of it) from the start, or not.
>>51635155
>obvious bait
>>51636728
obviously I say for certain what google will do, that's just my prediction given various reports saying that google is sick of all the oems giving android a bad name
>>51636791
Considering Samsung almost sued them for owning Motorola, no, that's not going to happen.
A rumor even came out today about Huaweii making the next Nexus 7.
>>51636791
>the oems giving android a bad name
what difference would Google made hardware make that Nexus branded hardware isn't?
>>51636727
> The OPO has better specs
All the phones listed are quite a bit better than the Moto G, save for the Redmi 2 2GB which is basically equal.
You decide which one you want to buy, I just listed some options.
I do not really think what you suggested needs more performance-wise than a Moto G or Redmi 2 2GB, but perhaps you'd pay extra for a better camera or something...
>>51636812
Google can assemble the worlds greatest hardware development team.
>>51636549
/g/uise?
>>51636806
Google could win that shit easy.
>>51636830
I'm actually trying to avoid Xiaomi because of the UI, the Google Apps that need to be installed and what else. (i know i'm autistic). My brother owns a OPO and it's doing good but i heard about touchscreen problems and i don't know if i want to buy it after that. Same the X having problems with the MicroSD. I guess that's what you get for buying chink phones..
Isn't 2015 a bad year to buy a phone?
>>51636877
>Isn't 2015 a bad year to buy a phone?
Yeah, for many reasons that were mentioned earlier in the thread. 2016 could be a really good year.
Have you fucking seen the Project Valley leaks?
>>51636932
>Project Valley leaks
It's the Courier all over again
>>51636897
I need to buy a phone within this year for reasons and there isn't much choice
>>51636778
PS: Dem Xiaomis have a recovery on stock (power + volume up) that easily lets you flash another ROM or root the phone.
Well, that, besides a Windows desktop application, plain old adb, the "updater" app (which can automatically use the stock recovery or an available TWRP or CWM to flash a ROM), and more options.
>>51636877
> I'm actually trying to avoid Xiaomi because of the UI, the Google Apps that need to be installed and what else. (i know i'm autistic).
Absolutely trivial to do by just installing the "global" stock rom - or even AOSP or Cyanogen or some derivative or whatever.
Can't really help you if that's too much.
> Same the X having problems with the MicroSD. I guess that's what you get for buying chink phones..
I did not hear of that yet, but heh, no hardware issues on like eight Xiaomis even just in the family so far.
So no, it's not "what you get for buying chink phones".
>>51636549
nexus 5x
>>51636980
Xiaomi reminds me of the early days of Android flashing. Fuck all this locked bootloader shit.
>>51636994
Huh, what? Locked bootloader?
Power + volume up to get into the recovery to flash isn't a "locked boot loader".
Being able to do it in a dozen other places as well also isn't.
>>51637025
You misunderstand what I'm saying. In the early days, nearly every phone was as easy as what Xiaomi has.
I'm saying fuck all the other companies that went that way.
>>51636980
Makes sense. Installing custom ROMs isn't a problem, i can follow a guide on how to do it.
For €277 it looks like the best option. I don't like that brand in front of the screen though but i can live with that.
Just one question: if you were in my situation, what would you buy?
Is there any good $200-$300 phone coming next year worth waiting for?
>>51637039
Ah, yes, I misunderstood. Apologies.
Well, when I started using Android smartphones rooting and/or bootloaders were already a pain (like, on the HTC Desire which multiple family members got), but indeed it's even just a little easier on the Xiaomis.
Arguably, other Chinese imported phones haven't been very hard either, but all the steps required on some phone meant for the European market got a bit on my nerves the one time I had to do that in the last 2 years.
So I just bought a Z3+ on Black Friday with a contract, there is no turning back and I'm european so...
Did I do good?
>>51637415
Obviously not since you are asking for validation.
>>51637415
Looks breddy gud
how the fuck do you get a fx0 for 60 shekels?
ebay?
>>51637064
> Just one question: if you were in my situation, what would you buy?
I don't know which situation exactly that is.
But most probably the Redmi 2 2GB, Redmi Note 2 or OnePlus X, I quite like my MicroSD slots.
Most likely the Redmi Note 2, actually. It's just $170 and has a PDAF camera.
>>51634663
>his phone only has 2gb of ram
>he owns an iPhone
>>51634663
I don't use more than 1gb most of the time. Better safe than sorry I guess. I wouldn't use an android with only 1 GB of ram.
>>51634663
You can use these phones for on-device GPS maps and navigation (unlike pure street maps, full OSM data maps might be a bit more heavy), watching video, snapping photos and a lot more at the same time.
You should however note that it's not even much of a matter of whether you really are making use of 2GB RAM and quad core processors.
This is just pretty much what you get when you pay like $100 or more on a Chinese smartphone... and if you pay less, your camera and unspec'd internals and stuff won't be terribly good.
Taiwan is the Jonestown of China
>>51637826
>Jonestown
That makes zero sense chink
>>51634585
>lag machine
decrypt, uninstall snapchat
no lag, except for Clover Material Beta crashing
>>51637989
Yeah that's what I'm seeing as well. Too bad in order to decrypt you've got to flash a different bootloader from what I gathered.
>>51638034
It's just a slightly modified boot.img:
>These are the stock boot images from Google, with the ramdisk modified as follows:
>- patched sepolicy
>- disabled dmverity (if applicable)
>- disabled forceencrypt (if applicable)
>>51638122
Oh and this modified boot.img makes you able to install SuperSU as well (I am guessing that is what the patched sepolicy is for).
>>51637415
you seriously fucked up
it overheats like crazy
Z3 would have been better
also
>contract
kill yourself, my friend
is this still good?
>>51634869
Those phones are old. The note 4 exynos performs better than snapdragon. the latest exynos cpus ravage any sd's in *almost* ever way. Why is this even being debated? Snapdragon a shit.
Z5 premium is finally out in Canadaland.
Should I buy now or wait for the LG V10? Those are my two top contenders to replace my Note 3.
Samsung lost me as a customer forever when they went the apple route and ditched the SD. I learned to love larger phones after a few years with the note and the Z5 and V10 seem to be my best options. They are what the note 5 could have been.
>>51638135
>>51638122
So it's basically no big deal to do? Does it wipe the device?
>>51638235
It is still okay, sure. It obviously isn't near the very high end anymore.
>>51638275
If you go from encrypted to unencrypted you have to format the user data partition, or else it remains encrypted. I've updated to later builds and the process doesn't wipe user data (flash everything except recovery and userdata to keep TWRP and your data, flash modified boot.img for your new build).
Is there any good case I can get for this? I don't want it to be overly bulky, just enough to protect the phone from the occasional drop.
>>51638284
looking for something for everyday use and this one has a neat snapdragon 801. so this or the moto g? each of them have bad support anyway
>>51638268
Disregard. LG said there were currently no plans to bring the V10 to Canada. They say the G4 is good enough.
<350€ - Europe
Anything good? Mostly browsing and songs. Close to stock Android would be nice
just received my one plus x.
what impressed me the most is that it has a really nice screen (and the build quality is really nice too).
to the guy with the 300 euro budget i would recommend it without hesitation even though there could be cheaper alternatives
Also what are some essential apps for an android newbie?
>>51634679
Because he's a newfag shill that forces these threads all the time
>>51638635
Yea it's a nice phone but for €30 more you could get the One which has more storage, more battery, NFC and AC WiFi.
As for the apps:
>SwiftKey Keyboard/Fleksy for the keyboard
>Nova Launcher/Lightning Launcher Extreme/Apex if you need a custom launcher
>puush to quickly upload stuff (even on PC)
>AirDroid to send/receive files from and to your phone/PC
>Textra/Evolve SMS/QKSMS/AwSMS for SMS
>Evernote to take notes if you need it
>S Converter/Convert+ to convert values
>Solid Explorer File Manager best explorer since ES became trash
>Rocket Player/Poweramp/VLC/MX Player to play media
>Telegram best Whatsapp alternative
>Pocket Trains my favorite casual/idling game
There's just too many. Try googling for "best apps for android" or something.
>>51638764
The One is a piece of shit
>>51638764
well i think that when choosing between one and x it comes to the screen size more than anything else
>>51638853
Why exactly is this?
>>51638889
I bet the OPX feels more premium and you can still use it with one hand, although i'm not sure 0.5" would make much of a difference to me
>>51638268
>They are what the note 5 could have been
I mean, the note5 still bests them by 30%+ in benchmarks, they might have the flexibility you desire, but they certainly lack the raw power the note5 offers.
>>51638929
well i think it is a matter of preference
(i wanted something more compact)
well the x feels like a solid device but since its back is made of glass it gets really easily full fingerprints. you can use the silicone case that is included but it kinda makes it lose its prenium feel.
as i said before what really impressed me is the screen maybe it is the dark theme but it has really nice colours
Aside from the bend meme, what problems are there with the 6p?
>>51639739
Camera lenses breaks and standard Android performance degradation.
>>51634525
This desu senpai
>>51639818
>standard Android performance degradation.
niceme.me
>>51639838
hope you're not implying that android phones don
t start lagging after a month
I thought Samsung said they were going to shy away from making an ultra high end phone for the next Galaxy phone
>>51639859
"I only buy Samsung phones" the post
>>51639859
My Nexus 5 is obviously older than a month and it's performance is simply incandescent. You're just a memer.
>>51639917
I've had my note5 since day 1, encrypted, and this fucker still doesnt slow down.
niceme.me yourself
Pick one phone for ~$200:
>Moto G 2015
>Nexus 5 2013
>Xperia M4
>Zenfone 2
I think M4, but the Nexus 5 was legendary at the time and it's a Nexus phone
>>51638929
There is nothing premium about the OPX. It's not a flagship, it's a budget phone that lacks a lot.
This whole premium meme among smartphones is like hippies going on about finding homemade or gourmet food in restaurants.
You just sound like a euphoric faggot.
>>51634673
my last two phones were xperia z1's and 2's. great phones, i love em. sony doesn't really market a lot in the US i think. im in california and tmobile is the only company with sony phones.
I don't need a smartphone because I don't need to take gay selfies while tweeting about blacklivesmatters and other liberal faggy shit.
What do you need the larger capacity screens and keyboards for when 99% of your faggy "conversation" is posting "I literally can't even..." on Fagbook.
>>51640705
It's really a shame. Sony never marketed the Vaio laptops really well, and they were quite nice I thought. Now they don't even make computers, and all of the Sony stores across the US are closed.
3 charge cycles now
5h sot with 31% left
will easily go 6+
blackberry priv
I dont see how the battery is shit, also getting update in a week since im on att so it can only improve really
>>51641395
what's total on time and brightness level?
>>51641395
Fuck me but what has your brightness been on?
>>51641426
>>51641440
ranged from 50 to 75~ brightness because screens good enough
mostly used it for texting and music today though along with shitposting on reddit
>>51635214
Yeah, it was how the older iPhones were playing catch up to the Nexus 4
>>51635878
Yes, the battery will benefit the VR experience too.
>>51640038
Not trying to bash your phone, the Note 5 is a great piece of hardware. But how do you tolerate touchjizz?
Can you install android on an fx0? Otherwise it's not worth it at any price.
>>51641584
>how do you tolerate touchjizz
its not nearly as bad as /g/ pretends it is to be honest, I came from an LG G2 and it's no worse than LG's skin, in fact i'd argue it's better because of the theme store and the functionality of the s-pen and other features I use fairly regularly.
The spen alone gets used at least 2-3 times a day, and generally more often than that.
Even if I could unlock the bootloader, root, and install a custom ROM, I likely wouldn't simply because I would lose out on samsung pay and the spen features.
>>51641641
I'm on an S4, it wasn't even that bad back then either. My phone still runs pretty snappy ( I do have it debloated, rooted, xposed etc. )
>>51640533
You're probably the goyim I replied to last night, but my new M4 Aqua should be here Thursday, so I can to a /g/view on it then
>>51641707
My only experience with samsung was an S2 that was my brothers. It didn't seem that bad but I never really used it all that much.
I honestly thought I would be forced to debloat and try and make touchwizz as light weight as possible. But I haven't even bothered debloating this thing, i will if I ever feel I need to, but I want to see how long I can keep the note5 on stock touchwizz without it being annoying. So far, 3.5 months in and it's fine.
We'll see if it continues with the 6.0 update.
Canada
Looking for something around $50
Must have alright battery life and android
>>51641845
>We'll see if it continues with the 6.0 update.
Everything I'm hearing says it fixes the problems the s6 and N5 had.
>>51641858
Used phones
>>51641865
Yeah but which one?
I bought a $40 Curve 9360 but the battery life isn't great.
This is for my son btw, I don't want a 12 year old using an expensive phone.
>>51641885
Definitely get a case for whatever it is.
Let me look on canadian amazon real quick.
>>51641885
WTF how do you expect to get anything but pure trash on less than 50 Timmybucks? Your dollar evidently is worth less than I thought
>>51641858
>Looking for something around $50
double or even triple your budget to get even a shitty android phone to be honest with you.
What phones would /g/ recommend that I could buy from Verizon, has a large screen and either a good amount of space stock or an SD card. Also 6.0 would be optimal but not mandatory. Any help would be great, I have to buy a new phone in 2 days (or else I have to way some years).
>>51641832
Cool.
Do you plan on rooting it and running stock Android, or keeping the Sony skin?
>>51641996
Exactly, so at that price range he should honestly get a Windows phone.
I say this as a devoted Android user.
>>51642256
Get off the fucking old Verizon plans and go with the new plans, and never buy a verizon locked phone.
Get a Moto X Pure, Nexus 5x, Nexus 6, or Nexus 6P.
Xperia Z3C or Z5 to replace my J?
>>51642327
you selling your shoes for this?
I really hope phone companies dont remove sd cards completely if they do ill have no place to store music and your fucked in the head if you think im using data to stream it
>>51642348
I don't own any shoes (last remaining pair broke), just milsurp boots
>>51642306
I can't senpai I'm stuck :(
>>51642418
baka desu senpai
is the Huawei P8 lite a recommended phone? Seems like the M4 but better in some ways.
>>51642373
I'd much rather have a phone with 64GBs internal storage, than a phone with 8GBs internal and an SD card slot. SD cards can be unreliable, and they're not as fast.
Former Moto G user and now Oneplus One user speaking with experience.
>>51642469
But not allphones that cut SD cards are packing a ton of storage into the phones and i still cant justify dropping 500 on a phone just for some storage shit
>>51642509
Oh I agree, if you're not going to offer at least 32GBs of storage in your phone, you should have an SD card slot on the phone.
I'm just saying that internal memory is vastly preferred to SD card slots. I know that some phone companies make you pay a retarded premium for the extra storage, but if the phone is still affordable, it is ultimately worth it.
>>51642509>>51642564
usb otg adapters are gold
you can make one that allows charging...
everything, even while sending data
you may be able to buy one
though i completely agree with y'all
>>51634663
I usually use mine to watch videos in the morning, browse social media and listen to music in the afternoon, and then a fuckton of videos and web browsing/social media at night. I'm also pretty constantly either texting or on skype. I find that 3GB on the OPO is more than enough, but I might not be pushing it as hard as some.
>>51642418
How are you possibly stuck?
>>51634663
>Do you feel you're ever really making use of that 2+GB RAM and quad core processing power?
No, because my phone has 840 megabytes of usable memory and a 1ghz dual core processor and I have a hard time using it all, except when playing games.
I don't multitask, so this may be one of the reasons.
desu senpai desu senpai senpai desu senpai desu
>My phone has more RAM than my main computer
Wew
>>51642853
what
>>51641832
Goy. Singular is goy. Multiple stupid non Jews is goyim. Get it right you stupid goy.
>>51635903
>custom launchers
>rooting
But yeah, rooting nowadays is not really required, but it still has its benefits. Would you rather use a shady VPN to block your ads instead of AdAway? Can you install a firewall that works for every piece of software on your phone? Can you improve your battery life by removing useless google apps? Can you undervolt to get better battery lfie?
Come on, rooting has very few drawbacks. There's no reason not to root.
>>51637415
You can't go wrong with a sony phone.
>>51635114
1. So are a majority of "good" Androids
2. What features? Legit curious on this one.
3. LOL definitely not true m8. The iPhone's actually have good screen on time.
4. I'll give you the 6 and 6S.
5. use something else.
6. literally who cares
>>51643004
I don't argue with people who eat shit from their own hands, so leave our thread iFaggot
>>51640731
>lewronggeneration
So since ES and Quikpic are now Botnets, what do you all use?
>>51643004
>1. So are a majority of "good" Androids
objectively no.
the nexus phones are the flagship android phones and they're $379-$499
the iphones are $549-$749
>2. What features? Legit curious on this one.
do your own research desu, things like apple pay, nfc, wireless charging, fingerpint sensor, and others were android features years ago
>3. LOL definitely not true m8. The iPhone's actually have good screen on time.
The catch with iPhone battery life is the automatic power saver mode. It saves a fuck ton, but as someone who has to use a iPhone 5 for work, it gets incredibly slow and most apps crash. Android has a similar feature but it isn't automatic.
>5. use something else.
like what?
>6. literally who cares
tech people like /g/
>>51643111
Solid Explorer or Root Explorer
>>51643128
Personally I don't want to have to use a fucking program just to put files on my device, fuck that noise
Also, people who care? Most people. More people use Android.
>>51642976
>shady VPN
I use my home server as my VPN and just have its host config file set to block all ad-servers.
Bam, free adblock without root and no shady VPN.
>>51643205
Personally I use my smartphone more when I'm out and about, so I'd rather just have root.
The more I think about it, the more I want to just stick with Nexus devices. I really hope google continues to raise the standards on them. The 6p is pretty awesome if you don't wear skinny jeans.
>>51643154
>Personally I don't want to have to use a fucking program just to put files on my device, fuck that noise
The main thing I don't like about the Vita. Jesus fuck I hate CMA.
Also thanks.
I've been trying this neutered version of Quikpic that still supports wifi back-up, but it refuses to work with Google Drive for some reason.
>>51643154
More people use Android because of affordability. iPhones are impossible to own in most of the world.
>>51643252
>Personally I use my smartphone more when I'm out and about, so I'd rather just have root.
I just connect to my VPN all the time, so i dont really see how it matters...Wifi, LTE, etc
>>51643275
I have Quickpic, Google Photos, and my stock gallery app. It's annoying but it works - photos backs my shit up, gallery is there cause you really do want it there, and Quickpic is there for looking nice and having a better interface than my stock gallery app on my S4.
>>51643315
Android phones also work better for people without computers. They're superior independent devices.
Not everyone likes the closed off Apple ecosystem either.
The price in particular matters where people don't want to waste money on a device that is behind the times feature wise.
>>51643362
I preferred the general feel of Quickpic over stock gallery. Shit, I would've been willing to pay some sort of donation or free for them to not sellout to CheetaMobile. Same with ES.
>>51643398
I just the default gallery shit could hide albums without putting them in a .nomedia folder
looks like we are at the bump limit, dont forget a title in the next one
>>51643426
That was my main issue as well. Why the hell can't we at least to set it to a specific directory? Why doesn't it simply target the directory that says PICTURES and DCIM? If it at least had those, I'd be okay just using the stock apps.
On a side note, seems like the Droid Turbo has root now, though I need to research more whether or not I can utilize it with the 5.1 OTA I've taken.
I don't want custom roms (had enough fun with my S3 doing that) I just want adblock.
>>51643472
Give me a minute
NEW THREAD
>>51643506
>>51643506
>>51643506
>>51643506
>>51643128
>the nexus phones are the flagship android phones
they're been disappointing since 2013. and even the 5 had a fatal flaw in it's battery
![OnePlus-One-render-Final-1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5ezaZ1x.jpg "OnePlus-One-render-Final-1[1]")
