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>How to request purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones
>Previous thread:
>>51619250
>>51632770
First for AKG Masterrace
i mean, could we not design a dummy head with some software that both attempts to either hit some preset sound signatures, or neutral, and at the same time balance the level of the frequencies of the drivers? i mean, theres no way we could get perfect, but thats fine. literally everything is far from perfect in the audio world
how much better will my sound be when im coming from a logitech g350 and switch to a sennheiser 598 / DT 770
>Budget
$75
>Location
USA
>Source
Audio Interface and straight into mobo
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
So long as they aren't uncomfortable, I don't care. Sound is main priority.
>Preferred tonal balance
Flat.
>Past headphones
Never owned a good pair.
I want a par of headphones that will be suitable for home studio use, both recording and mixing. If that isn't possible for under 75, give me the cheapest recs you have.
>>51632487
Probably should've waited for the new thread but does anyone have experience with the NVX XPT100s?
>Budget
20-25 €
>Location
Austria/Germany
>Source
laptop/pc
>Open or closed
Either
>Comfort level
high as possible for the price
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
balkan folk music
reposting
>>51632331
from last thread. post modded phones
>>51632821
alot better if you bought these
>>51632878
People say that they're bad and not on the same level of the K7XX
Looking for headphones that are great for general use and provide good quality when playing games.
>Budget
$150-200
>Location
Australia
>Source
Straight into PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or Closed
Open
>Comfort level
Anything that doesn't make my scalp or ears feel like their bleeding after 3+ hour sessions.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral/Bassy.
>Preferred Music?
Heavy synth, but not too important.
>Past headphones?
Technically none. Had some decent headsets and earphones, but just want some solid headphones for once.
>>51632878
is this a meme?
>>51632931
No, they are just better that others that were posted.
>>51632911
the K7XX is the same thing but with more bass and better looks if you like the look of the K7XX
>>51632792
>i mean, could we not design a dummy head with some software that both attempts to either hit some preset sound signatures, or neutral, and at the same time balance the level of the frequencies of the drivers?
Of course you can, it's very easy to do it automatically. In the real world, you want to do this manually.
An example of an inverted response with EQ.
>>51632949
thanks for the recommendation ill just go to the store and try them all on there
What happened to the list of suggested headphones?
>>51633018
keep in mind you will want an amp like a e10k if you are considering a k702 or a k7XX
How's the Audio Technica ATH-M50X for general use?
>>51633097
if you live in america get a k553 pro, if you live anywhere else its fine
>>51633007
oh of course the fact your ears are different means you have to do per channel. but we could also have the software test your hearing first, in the middle, and even after it "works on" your headphones. this way it tries to compensate on your hearing vs what the headphones are doing
>>51633116
Cheers bud.
>>51633039
i have a soundblaster Z that should handle it
>Budget
$60-100
>Location
Poland
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized
>Open or Closed
prefer Open but I don't mind Closed
>Comfort level
High
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred Music?
Electronic (aphex twin, flying lotus), Rock, Classical
>Past headphones?
superlux hmc631
>>51633027
IEM went into the wiki
Sub-200 was deemed bad.
200+ is just not linked.
>>51633119
This isn't a hearing test but an anatomy measurement. Subjective adjustments can be made later.
>>51633586
not only later, but optional completely. im just making sure we can cover any base someone would want.
Hey again, /hpg/
Christmas is coming up soon, family is working with some system where a name is drawn for each person only gets one gift and only from that one person.
Basically I'm stuck having to give a wish list for shit around 25€. I don't really have an idea what else to ask for so I'm planning to ask for new earbuds to use on the go as my old ones broke.
I don't just want to say "earbuds" or they'll give me either in ears (with the rubber shit) which I hated before or just grab the nearest "DEEP BOOSTED EXTRA ENHANCED BASS" ones, which are like 90% of the ones I saw at my local electronics store
So I'm looking for good specific reccomendations to ask for, preferably a number of them so it's easier for them to find one of them.
I'm considering asking for the Apple EarPods as one of them, but apparently they don't sell them separately other than the mic/volume version
>Budget
~25-30€
>Location
Belgium
>Source
Laptop (though this prob doesn't matter for earbuds)
>Comfort level
Shouldn't hurt even after several hours of continuous usage, but other than that fine
>Preferred music
Jazz HipHop
>Past headphones
Currently using SR850s at home and really like them
also didn't there used to be more shit in the OP?
Bought these yesterday, did I fuck up?
>>51633586
>Sub-200 was deemed bad.
By one person.
>>51632847
Koss Porta Pro
>Budget
750$
>Location
Canada
>Source
Schiit stack uber
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or Closed
Open
>Comfort level
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred Music?
Bit of everyting from from classical to heavy metal, nothing really recent
>Past headphones?
Using the hd 585 for the past year, would like too upgrade or try someting new
Meh, why not:
>Budget
~100£, pretty flexible, can pay ~150£ if it means a lot in terms of comfort and quality
>Location
UK
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or Closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Very High
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred Music?
Rock and many of it's branches, both new and very old songs, [spoiler]Gaming, does it trigger you?[/spoiler]
>Past headphones?
Cheap Sony shit for 15£
>>51634015
MDR 7506, DT770 80 Ohm
>>51633998
>Canada
hd 598*
>>51633998
Shure SRH-1840
>Budget
$70
>Location
UK
>Source
Amp+Dac
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Dont mind
>Preferred tonal balance
Flat.
>Past headphones
Had some superlux memes
>>51634081
SHP9500
Anyone knows any reliable ATH-M50(x) replacement earpads?
I don't want to lose sound quality and mine are worn out and a bit uncomfortable because of it.
I do not live in the US though. Any european knows of any?
>>51634036
thx, those looks nice
>Budget
150-200€
>Location
GER
>Source
PC soundblaster Z
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or Closed
i dont care
>Comfort level
high
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred Music?
trap, rap, some lana del rey shit
also mainly for gaming
>Past headphones?
Logitech G350
>>51634123
You are welcome
>>51634092
arent these vshaped?
>>51634128
DT770 80 Ohm
>>51634160
They are pretty neutral
>>51634161
>>Preferred tonal balance
>Neutral
Oh shit i mean MDR 7506
akg k612 pro or DT 990 PRO 250 ohm?? both are around $150
>>51634223
AKG
Thanks lads, as ugly as they are, DT 770 80 Ohm is a winner for me.
>>51634223
AKG but I really suggest an amp given how insensitive those are.
>>51634253
weird, i think beyers are sexy as fuck
>try to get /g/ rec headphones in fucking mexico
>only way from where I live is using latinamerican eBay (mercadolibre)
>seller seems to have pretty damn good reputation
>buy using the website instead of directly with the seller just to be sure
>make order and pay for them the 23rd
>seller sends email saying he got the order and it's shipped in 2-3 working days
>expected delivery yesterday
>nothing
>seller's listed cellphone sends straight to voicemail since yesterday
>called the delivery company
>they got they order and tracking number, but the seller never took the package with them
>sent a complaint with the website but must wait until saturday for the seller to respond before I can ask for my money back
I should have settled for the cheapskate MDR-XB450AP at the local radioshack
Grado sr1000i get rekt
>>51632835
Sony MDR-7506
>>51632847
Superlux HD681
>>51632922
Sennheiser HD558
>>51633564
Samson SR850
>>51633856
Panasonic RP-HJE120
>>51633998
Sennheiser HD600
>>51634015
Beyerdynamic DT250 80 Ohm
>>51634081
Sennheiser HD518
>>51634128
Beyerdynamic DT250 80 Ohm
>>51633899
Nah, the $200 and under guide was pure trash.
>>51634443
wew i agree with every single recommendation
>>51634443
>Beyerdynamic DT250
why wouldnt i just go for the DT990pro for the same price basically
>>51634617
Because DT250 is
A. Closed
B. More neutral
>>51634443
>Panasonic RP-HJE120
so, seeing as I mentioned the in ear soft plastic/rubber shit, do you think those just felt weird and bad because they were low quality?
>>51633812
>im just making sure we can cover any base someone would want.
I'm not sure what you mean. The measurements you normally see (diffuse field) are based on anatomy.
You can adjust the target response based on added EQ filters to affect the final target
Hey /hpg/,
I got the HD598SE from Amazon.
I have a vmoda boom pro mic, is there a way to attach the mic cable without disassembling my 598s? These are the most expensive headphones I own right now
>>51634617
What >>51634647 said.
>>51634653
I don't know but the HJE120 is extremely comfortable for an in-ear and is almost similar to an earbud type fit.
>>51634744
aite, is there a difference between the versions I have to worry about because amazon.co.uk has both "RP-HJE120E-K" & "HJE120E1"
Also, have any other recommendations in the same price point that are also good or is nothing compareable and should I just bet on them getting this specific one?
>>51634828
Get the RP-HJE125E-K, the others seem to be out of stock. You won't really find anything else that's like an earbud with a decent fit at that price.
>>51634921
>don't ship to belgium
well fuck, time to see if there's any other stores around that carry them
>Budget
$150 is the most I'd like to spend, though a bit cheaper would be better.
>Location
USA
>Source
Computer
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size, over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
High
>Preferred tonal balance
Don't care
>Preferred music
I mostly listen to animu OPs/EDs, etc. Also I'll be using these headphones mostly for that and actually watching anime.
>Past headphones
Been using a pair of Bose AE2 Around-Ear Audio Headphones for the past few years. Yes lolBose, but I got them 50% or something. I did like that they were pretty comfortable, but gonna try to get something cheaper than Bose normally is now.
>>51635192
DT770
>>51632770
is the k240 by akg good?
I have them and want to know how do they compare the regularly suggested head-phones such as senheiser or beyerdynamic??
>>51635213
they are good
>>51634443
>the $200 and under guide was pure trash.
How was it trash?
>>51635467
maybe too much changed since it was made
maybe elitists complained YOU CANNOT GET THE GOOD QUALITY SOUND UNDER 200$
maybe there were too many good options and it just evolved into shitposting
idk man
AKG K612 pro or AKG K553 pro or AKG k702 or Senheiser hd 598?
>>51635192
Beyerdynamic DT7770 80 Ohm.
>>51635467
Incomplete low quality guide with heavy bias and many decent choices omitted.
I fell for the meme, /hpg/. Just bought some lsr305s.
Did I fuck up?
>>51636063
No they're very good.
>>51634443
thank fuck there are still people who help out and are not brand evangelists
>>51636093
They better be, I gave up on hd600 for them. They're $100 each on amazon right now btw.
>>51636145
Unless you're one of those weird headphones > speakers people, that was a good move.
>>51635929
>heavy bias
How?
>many decent choices
Which?
>>51635581
K702 with an amplifier
>>51633586
honestly the IEM list is not great either. the only good one is >$200 list.
>Budget
$50-150
>Location
USA
>Source
Note 5 (movies, not in public), PC, amp built for speakers
>Preferred type of headphone
Probably full sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
High
>Preferred tonal balance
Prefer neutral. Just don't want everything drowned out by ugly bass
>Preferred music
Rock, folk, orchestral
>Past headphones
Nothing worth mentioning
>>51636292
>>51633586
>>51633027
We could just create a new one and stop complaining about the old guide not being there
>>51636353
HD558
>Budget
£150 max (but only if they're really really good)
In and around £100 preferably
>Location
UK
>Source
Pc sound card
>Preferred type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Honestly don't mind either. The headphones will be strictly for home use.
>Comfort level
Moderately comfortable at least
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy
>Past headphones
Some cheap gaymer ones I had for my xbox
Just to add. Will be doing video editing and quite a bit of gaming alongside listening to music.
>>51636371
This will not happen for a while. This shit is always slow to be fixed.
>>51636469
http://www.thomann.de/gb/beyerdynamic_dt770_pro80_ohm.htm
For the negro low frequencies family.
>>51636371
I'll do it eventually I swear :^)
>>51634107
srh-840 pads are good. those are what I used with my m40x.
>>51636292
What is the matter with the IEM guide?
Are the Fidelio X2 worth their prize if I'm just listening music from Spotify on iPhone?
>>51636496
I've been leaning towards those ever since I found out about them.
What's the bass really like? Some reviews are saying it has the perfect balance, others are saying it's overly excessive when it comes to playing games since the bass washes out the finer details.
>Budget
£75
>Location
UK
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Willing to sacrifice for better sound quality
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
Rock
>>51636642
It was outdated and missing some IEMs, also some IEMs were mislabeled in various ways. now that I look though I don't think the old list is even in the wiki, just a link to joker's reviews, which while not bad are very subjective, with no included measurements and not sorted by price, and there is a lot of redundant stuff in there.
>>51636700
You remember that one black friend we've all got with the subwoofers in his car? It's kinda like that.
>>51636741
ATH-M40X
MDR-V6
MDR-7506
SRH-440
>>51636687
yes, as long as the quality is not 128kbps mp3 level.
>>51636700
it's significantly bassy but not to an extreme ala beats. the treble is what bothers me.
Has any one done this? How did it go?
>>51636851
it's old and been replaced with the antlion mod mic.
Anybody here with OnePlus Icons? (I know they are earphones not headphones) How would they compare to similarly priced earphones?
>>51636882
Is there a cheaper alternative?
>>51636851
it works, ive done it a bunch. theres really only one thing you need to know: crazy glue both sides of the wire where it meets the plastic. both sides, so where it meets the connector, and where it meets the mic side. both have come apart on me on multiple of them. its terrific for the price if you just do this to keep it sturdy
>>51636949
there is a zalman lapel mic which is pretty decent and cheap.
>>51636961
?/10 for mic quality?
And does the velcro support it enough or does it fall off eventually?
V-Moda M80's as daily drivers.
And i do mean EVERY DAY, EVERYWHERE.
Purchased in mid-2012 and nearing fourth year of service.
These shits are indestructible
>>51636988
I need it to be close to my mouth so that wouldn't work.
>Budget
100€ ish
>Location
Spain
>Source
PC. Would buy a desktop amp+dac if its worth it tho...
>Preferred type of headphone
full size
>Open or closed
closed, but not really important
>Comfort level
Willing to sacrifice for better sound quality
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral?
>Preferred music
Soul and blues, Hip-Hop, classic rock
So, MDRs? Also looking at some IEMs, pretty much set on the SoundMAGIC E10 would spend a bit more for some detachable ones because i'm concerned about durability.
>>51637041
see >>51636790
as for the IEM the mee m6 pro is the cheapest I know of with detachable cables, no measurements as far as I know but people say they're a more balanced m6 so they should be good.
>>51637155
thanks buddy! I was thinking that previous request was the closest one matching my case.
>>51636763
I mean this one, because I think you are referring to the one by IEM guy?
>http://pastebin.com/QQ4Gp7bQ
>Budget
<$100
>Location
US
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
Any
>Comfort level
High (Extended use)
>Preferred music
Doesn't matter
>Past headphones
Takstar Monitor Hi-fi Headphone HI 2050
I really liked these, they were very comfortable but the cable wore out after 6 months near the jack (Caused by bending). I'd like to avoid that if possible.
I noticed today that a local electronics store are selling AKG K551 for $100. These were retailed for $329 back in 2012, about the same price as the current, and still popular, K550.
Should I go for it? I've been thinking about getting the K550. It seems that the only difference are the colors, jack, and the cable have a mic and buttons on it.
>>51636991
i really have no idea how to give it something out of 10, obviously it doesnt come close to even this $20 gearone mv1000, but it sounds at least as good, if not better imo, than most gaming headsets' mics youll find.
and the velcro holds it fine.
>>51637377
try them and if you don't like them sell them.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA62627K2587&ignorebbr=1
Are these good?
>>51637375
nvx xpt-100
>>51637923
>nvx xpt-100
Thanks man, these look perfect.
>>51638317
I thought /g/ swore on their entire piss jug collections that dedicated sound cards are nothing more than a meme.
Do you notice a discernible difference between onboard or dedicated? Do you only use it for your headphones or do you have a large speaker setup?
>>51636800
What's wrong with the treble
>>51637377
The K550, K551, and K553 all measure basically the same. It would be a pretty good deal if you like them.
>>51638411
not him but right around 5k i also do 5-6db drop on my x2s, otherwise symbols, vocals, and other things in that range will sound way too metallic
Alright audiophiles I need some headphones. I mostly listen to music, podcasts or audiobooks while commuting. I first wanted to go for the DT770 but they seem too heavy and uncomfortable to wear around my neck when im interrupted while listening. I also considered the K550 but they get mediocre reviews in terms of their sound quality.
>Budget
200€ Tops
>Location
Germany
>Source
mostly Phone, eventually my computer when used as a headset.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size is ok since i carry a backpack anywhere, but collapsible would be best
>Open or closed
Closed unless they are open and still quiet on the outside
>Comfort level
Rather high. I listen to audiobooks a lot usually for hours. Would be willing to trade for superior sound quality though.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
Psychedelic, Metal, Electronic
>Past headphones
Koss Porta Pro. Was quite comfortable with the sound and especially the weight. Would recommend if you're looking for ultra portable small headphones. Just replace the foam with leather and you're good to go.
No shilling or meming plox
>>51638468
K550 and K551 have problems with the upper mids the K553 pro fixes the problem.
>>51638755
Nah the k553 has the same issue. Someone dig up the measurements for me.
>>51638755
>>51638772
Well I dug them up anyway.
K553: http://www.changstar.com/index.php?topic=2265.0
K550: http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGK550.pdf
It's basically the same. That treble peak is still there.
Any suggestions for Wireless Active Noisecanceling cans? My boss wants to get the Beats Studios.. idk what to tell him.
>>51638527
>>51638411
I was talking about the dt770. I agree about the x2 but stock it just sounds a bit grainy. the trebles spikes on all the main beyers is worse.
>>51638639
m40x would be perfect aside from comfort. pro80/hsr1000 is better in that regard but they don't fold and I think the cable is fixed and long. v6 folds and has good comfort but the cable is also long and coiled. maybe IEMs? xpt100 would give the best comfort but it's large, too large to wear around your neck I would think.
>>51638895
bose has the best anc.
Are Sennheiser HD 558 any good?
>>51638895
It's really one or the other. Bose for noise cancelling or Sennheiser for wireless.
I'd just let him get what he wants. Noise cancellation and wireless are both detrimental to audio quality so that's obviously not a priority for him.
>>51638369
the xonar may be a meme
but the sound blaster Z is noticeable
much better
>Budget
$40-80 CAD
>Location
Canada
>Source
Laptop Mobo / OPO
>Preferred type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Anything
>Preferred music
Indie rock trash
>Past headphones
Sony MDRZX100B (Lasted me 3 years before the left ear started going. RIP)
I also prefer some that are sort of minimalistic please. Thanks /g/.
>>51639265
This.
My soundblaster z is miles better than my on board sound.
Any easy way to get dolby headphone to work with MPC-HC?
what's the storage limit of a rockbox sansa clip? 128gb?
So I just got my K240's in the mail like 30 minutes ago, and they're a bit odd. I can hear the individual instruments better overall because there's less bass presence than my M50's, but the sound itself seems a bit clouded overall.
Is this normal?
![7558653ed4c2056c524f8b4dc28d927d[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/VqB2FaK.png "7558653ed4c2056c524f8b4dc28d927d[1]")
so how terrible are these?
>>51639265
>>51639392
the default of the Z has a crazy EQ on. are you turning that off and still notice a difference? theres also all kinds of gimmicky shit on by default. when i turn that off, my onboard sounds the same. but im not saying youre wrong; maybe i just happen to have a nice onboard soundcard
first of all, I have no idea about this stuff
So I bought senhheiser hd598 from amazon, what kind of amp should I get? I will use them on a Imac
So I just ordered some hd 598s. Is an amp necessary? If so, what kind would be best?
>>51639642
Oh shit someone just asked the same question as me
>>51639627
>>51639627
A lot of modern motherboards have onboard audio good enough for most users. Sound cards and everything else only really matter when you have good speakers not bullshit logitechs.
Just ordered a pair of Xaiomi piston II's
How'd I do?
>>51639568
"clouded" just means the treble is overall lower. you went to a much more neutral. when the treble is too high, it can start sounding metallic (kind of like how overly compressed music sounds). if it's too low, it sounds like what people refer to as the sennheiser veil.
anyway, someone else can correct me if im wrong, but yes i think the 240s have lower treble than the m50s, so it would explain what youre hearing. normal? yes. but do you like it is a question you have to answer yourself.
>>51639079
Thank you very much for your suggestions
>>51639627
My msi z97 mobo is supposed to have some top quality on board sound but it sounded really shitty like it was really flat and even with a bass booster activated the bass was pretty poor.
Should I get the fiio k1 for portable use with some 50Ω and 38Ω cans?
I've got two pairs just recently getting into headphones, HD598 and ATH-M50x, I want a small & cheap amp+dac as I can hear electrical noise from both my phone and PC, plus the HD598s are a little bit too quiet. These seem like a good option and are in my price range, what does /hpg/ think?
>>51639829
You don't need it.
>>51639843
...why not?
is the open design really important for gaming or is it a meme?
>>51639586
Für den Preis ok
>>51639959
it's not important but I think the larger soundstage and sense of space open headphones have enhance the experience, of FPS especially. and it does make it a bit easier to position and listen to audio cues vs something really narrow sounding. the idea that it's going to make you significantly better at csgo is a myth.
>>51640093
okay thanks
so DT990s or sennheiser 598
>>51640163
598, that's what I use for gaming. the heavy v-shape of the 990 would not be good for that.
>>51640222
wish the ATH-M50 had open cups, the price of the 598 are killing me
>>51640271
558?
>>51640287
this, they literally use the same driver
>>51640287
thanks friend
whats the consensus on IEMs? i need sound isolation but just wondering if the sound is as good
how come no one can produce a decent headset?
>>51640298
>>51640287
bought them just now ill get them tomorrow
>>51640543
excellent we hope you enjoy the veil
>>51640874
>veil
the what
>>51640881
patented sennheiser veil, do not steal
>>51640881
wait you bought some senns without reading about the veil? christ
>>51640881
ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST
>mfw Radio interference and white noise when any audio plays
How is this possible, my old headset was pure telemarketer garbage and it had ZERO interference
I'm also getting suspicious ear pains even though it's not loud, just bought this and I'm pretty sure I fucked up, but I have a few questions.
1. Could this be happening because of poor grounding on my PC or on other cables?
2. Would using stuff like a ferrite core to deal away with the interference even work?
I tested using other stuff I have here and the same thing happens, white noise only though
I'm not even sure I'm posting in the right place.
>Newfag alert
>>51640996
Plug them into your phone or some shit, see if you still have any problems. Most likely interference from your PC or whatever though. Have fun working that one out.
>>51641016
But anon, [spoiler]it's a USB jack one, and so far all the jacks have the same result, would having a USB extension that has proper shielding solve it?[/spoiler]
>>51641078
was your last set usb?
>>51641096
No, it was the "Y" one for audio one for microphone, I tested with audio only headphones too and the same issue.
I have the K240 Studio. Have had them for a while and like them, my first set of decent headphones. I was wondering if they would benefit from an amp. Thank you.
Do you like a thick cable or a thin cable?
Do you like it curly?
>mfw my 598's arrived today and I realized I fell for the meme
god dammit
>>51641292
Thick and straight.
>>51641347
That's also how I like it senpai
Looking for headphones that I can use while walking around/driving as well as at home gaming. Not too concerned about weight, but I'd like to not look autistic walking around with studio headphones on. I plan on getting better quality headphones for home use and gaming anyway, so portability is more important right now.
>Budget
$150
>Location
Canada
>Source
Iphone/Desktop, no amp atm
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear/on-ear
>Open or Closed
Open
>Comfort level
My ears come out at a sharper angle than most, so higher comfort is quite a high priority, as my ears hurt after 2-3 hours of using most headphones.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral/Bassy.
>Preferred Music?
Post-Rock/Jazz/Metal/Electronic?
>Past headphones?
Nothing any good for portable gear. I've got a SteelSeries Siberia V2 for desktop gaming that's a few years old, and it's okay-ish, though the cable is a little damaged.
>>51641151
although it's not impossible, it's unlikely that a usb set have this problem. id be willing to bet it's the set itself, so try them on another computer to see if it still happens.
>>51641335
we try to tell you about the shills every fucking thread. whats wrong with you?
>>51641372
I knew they would have less bass than my m50's I was willing to make that trade off for the extra comfort since the m50's make my ears bleed but holy shit it's so dull and lifeless
>>51641392
why not just buy pads for the m50s
>>51641392
well, you have experienced the veil. i would whip you up a certificate to put on your wall but im too fucking lazy
>>51641403
I did, it doesn't help.
>>51641372
Alright, I did as you said, tested it on a laptop that was not connected to any power source.
Same thing happened, so I am to assume it's the actual headset having faulty shielding on it's wires, so what are the options? Buy another? Use a ferrite core? USB extension?
>>51641392
You should have just bought better niggabass headphones like the D770s.
>>51641272
And if so, which amp would you recommend?
>>51641449
cant you return it?
but yes, something about the headset is definitely fucked, especially if it sounds pretty much the same from those two sources
i dont think a usb extension would help, as the problem is somewhere between the connector and the headset. you should just take it back if you can, but either way, its fucked
>>51641272
>>51641474
>I was wondering if they would benefit from an amp.
No. Amps only matter if you want more volume. That's it.
>>51641420
what kind of pads did you get? is it just the clamping pressure?
I have a pair of M50s but the only other headphones I've owned were SR80is, and compared to those you could call the M50s a pretty damn comfy pair of headphones.
I've been able to wear them for hours on end. Makes me wonder what actually comfortable headphones are like. I ordered some velour Brainwavz HM5 pads, hopefully those will improve the M50s at least a little
>>51641530
Thank you Anon.
>>51641518
Alright anon, thanks for the advice, I will try to return it and get a Y type since that was the old functional one, just out of curiosity though, do ferrite cores actually work in a case like this?
Sup /g/ what's the best earphone for more or less $100? I want isolation and good quality for my rock and metal music library.
>>51641536
the 598's are like putting a cloud on your ears it's really nice..
I got these http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0016MF7W2 back in like dec 2013 when they were the only velour pads for the m50's at the time... well the only ones that fit them. it's deff the clamping that bugs me... and the heat the generates inside the pad over time and the tips of my ears that touch the back part of the cups get really raw and hot/red/itchy after more than 2-3 hrs
>>51641548
as usb is a digital connection, no it doesnt. this is why you know the problem is happening somewhere after the connector (well, most likely. there are other things that can happen, but as i said, its almost never)
>Budget
$150
>Location
'Merica
>Source
Audio Interface and straight into mobo
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Very comfortable.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral/bassy
>Past headphones
shitty ear buds and beats
>>51641648
emm fiftee ecks
>>51641594
the heat is really the only thing that bothers me so much, but I heard velour pads were supposed to fix that issue more or less. Guess I'll find out in a couple days
>>51639705
So I spent a few hours listening to a bunch of different music, watching some anime, and listening to some people in Mumble. I just don't know if I can get behind the different sound feeling on it
>Really liked my M50's
>If I were to return them the best I could get would be M30X's
>Sound quality is probably even worse
Would an external amp help?
>>51641667
>Comfort level
>Very comfortable.
>>51641727
>Would an external amp help?
No.
>>51641749
fuck off idiot
>>51641727
k240's are extremely inefficient and require amplification
>>51639568
Mine sounded better after a few weeks.
>>51641771
The fuck? The k240 are 55 ohms. They don't need an amp at all.
>>51641783
That means you just got used to it.
>>51641792
Not him but why on earth would you base amp requirements on impedance?
>>51641802
Probably. Seemed more bassy than at first, though.
>>51641771
>104 dB SPL/V
>inefficient
Nice meme.
>>51641803
Because impedance is the opposition to the flow of a current.
I just got and tested out my 598se for almost a straight 18 hour session, first of all anyone that said they have no bass is just stupid bc they have plenty of bass, I had never used open headphones before and was amazed with the clarity in the mids abd highs especially, they sounded best with classical, acoustic, and rock music, the place that they shine the most in with movies and TV shows though, and they are crazy comfortable, super light design with huge ear cups and just the right amounts of padding and types of padding, I know it's my first open back headphones and I'm sure there are much better cans out there, but for $90 these were a bargain for sure, I might go ahead and buy these hifiman he 400i now that I'm starting to get obsessed with headphones, haha another way for me to blow money, but on a serious note I just don't understand why anyone would trash talk the 598se at a 90-100 dollar price range, also they came with two cables and I wasn't even expecting that
>>51641835
The majority of headphone amplifiers are voltage-based.
dB SPL is infinitely more important than impedance.
>>51641852
dB SPL/V*
>>51641852
>voltage doesn't effect power or current
>>51641851
nice meme
>this is my first open headphone
>i'm going to go on about the sound like i know what i'm talking about anyway because post-purchase rationalization
>>51641878
Consider educating yourself. Low impedance headphones need more current.
http://benchmarkmedia.com/blogs/application_notes/14017381-headphone-impedance-and-sensitivity
>>51641881
It's not that at all I really love the way they sound compared to my m50x
>>51641897
Duh because they have less impedance. What's your point?
>>51641916
"hurdur you don't need amp because they're low impedance!"
No you don't need an amp because they have high voltage sensitivity.
>>51641927
They have high voltage sensitivity because the impedance is low. You do realize these things are all related right?
I bought those Sennheisers that were on sale on amazon for 100$ but whenever I use my steam controller, I can hear a low buzzing noise. Any way to fix this? Happens whether I play wireless or not.
>>51641881
And I don't need to rationalize my purchase, I could buy any headphones that I want, money is not a problem, I just wanted to try something mid tier to start out, nerds like u are what make me not even want to post on this site bc all u can do is shit talk like a little cunt instead of actually contributing something helpful or positive to someone looking for some advice or information
>>51641943
Care to explain why the 250ohm Beyer are harder to drive than the 300ohm Sennheiser?
Open back headphones are better than closed backs for positional audio yes?
Any recommendations on a good pair of open backs (or even closed if they're really good) that have great positional audio?
>>51641997
It's such bullshit they sound the same to me
>>51641997
>positional audio meme
Stop, you're shit as CS you'll always be shit your gear won't help. If you're relying on positional audio you're not playing the game right.
>>51641881
I enjoy my Sennheiser HD598. That's enough for me.
anons, he400i or x2? he400i will be 300 USD again on the 26th
>Headband cover from China solved all my problems
Fucking K702's.
>>51642065
All the new chinese made K702s don't have the dents.
>>51642075
These right here? >>51632878
>>51642136
Yes. Notice how they no longer say "Made in Austria"
>>51642062
HE 400i fo sho
I have the 589's and m50's
should I keep both or sell one?
>>51642189
Ah yeah I do have the Chinese ones that are flat. Still got the wool covers in the end.
Fuuark, just spent 500$ on meme audiophile shit... Hope Im gonna be happy z review
>>51633897
Yes, Takstars for 50€/$ sound 90% of those
>>51641792
you're an idiot, go back to head-fi or reddit please
>>51641818
you're an idiot, go back to head-fi or reddit please
>>51642277
>tfw bought my QPad QH-85 (Hi2050 with detachable mic) for €40
Feels good.
>>51632847
>>Preferred music
>balkan folk music
кaкo cи мoг бpaтa.
>>51642303
Why are you trying to recruit people to your websites? Stop perpetuating the "everything needs an amp/dac" meme or fuck off back to head-fi.
>>51642311
Yes, seen the qpads, a little nicer finish but essentially same, gz
>>51642355
Thanks man, had to tighten the headband adjustment mechanism by putting a thin piece of cardboard in there and everything's good.
Hey do these headphones look good guys?
http://www.amazon.com/Superlux-681-Dynamic-Semi-Open-Headphones/dp/B002GHIPYI/?tag=gmgamznmod-20
I'm not sure if they're comparable since one is open and one is closed but, which do you think is better in terms of sound?
Samson-SR850
http://www.amazon.com/Samson-SR850-Professional-Reference-Headphones/dp/B002LBSEQS/
Gemini-HSR-1000
http://www.amazon.com/Gemini-HSR-1000-Professional-Monitoring-Headphones/dp/B006Y2BI04
>>51642521
Look into these as well
http://www.amazon.com/AKG-240-Semi-Open-Studio-Headphones/dp/B0001ARCFA
>>51642521
If you want open, have a look at the Takstar Hi2050. They're pretty much the same thing as that Gemini, but open-back.
Convince me not to get these
>>51639627
oh yea, for sure
i turn off voice shit and pro studio shit, and set my own custom EQ
one thing to note, is the EQ amp needs to be turned up, its a little too neutral and quiet
the amp should be set to a maximum of +3db
i also bump the most of the frequency range +2db, and drop 8k to -7db
and only 62hz is at +4db because i like that bass
>>51642565
stupidly V-shaped frequency response
if you can deal with that, go for 'em
>>51642537
That removable cord makes it very tempting. I have had lots of broken cords in the past but, mostly with very cheap products.
>>51642539
These look very comfortable. Will consider.
Just getting into bluetooth headphones and things sound a bit crackly. Listening to Sennheiser Urbanite XL, music from Lumia 920.
MASSIVE BASS
SMOOTH MIDRANGE
EXTENDED TREBLE
>>51641963
The driver design could cause a varying impedance through the frequency range. Or the drivers could just be heavier.
When using a mobile device, the voltage range is very limited. The current is what will ultimately dictate the volume you'll get with a mobile device. If the headphones you use with said device have a high impedance, the volume will be reduced. This is true of any audio system that cannot significantly increase its voltage.
Besides, amplifiers have lower output impedance than most mobile devices or computer outputs, which generally means the headphones will be getting a more accurate signal.
(you can increase dB SPL/V by decreasing resistance-- which means decreasing input impedance, which isn't going to happen for studio headphones because they need that high impedance to work well with the high powered equipment in studios).
>>51642791
>than most mobile devices or computer outputs, which generally means the headphones will be getting a more accurate signal.
Modern onboard solutions are like 2ohm output impedance dude.
Anyway the point was, using input impedance as a metric for whether a headphone needs a discrete amp or not is ridiculous.
a family i bought the hd 598's se. after using the grado sr80i's for many years , using the 598's is like dying and going to heaven. they sound amazing, comfy as fuck too. i was wondering if your guys could recommend me a good desktop amp?
>>51642826
>amp meme
listening with my Grados
>all that prestige
>>51642810
Like I said, you need to know what your source is capable of supplying to your phones. I took mobile stuff as probably the most common example these days. It's the input impedance of the phones coupled with the output capabilities of the source that determine whether or not you need an amp. Without knowing both, you can't say whether or not you need an amp. So no, taking into account input impedance is not ridiculous, you just don't know what you're talking about. Like I said dB SPL/V is a useless metric because it can be manipulated by changing the resistive characteristics of the phones, which can actually severely reduce audio quality to improve loudness.
>>51642877
>So no, taking into account input impedance is not ridiculous,
Stop changing the goalposts. I said using it as a sole metric is ridiculous because you can't base anything off of input impedance alone. dB SPL/V is a more important spec as variations in impedance only sway the power requirements so much from the dB SPL/V.
>Budget
Sub $400 perfered
>Location
US
>Source
Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM ,durable on ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Med to high?
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral as possible.
>Preferred music
Synth, electric, classic
>Past headphones
K7XX MDR-V6
Travel the road a lot for work. Something for long road trips and hotel stays. Will be around other people so I'd like isolation. Durable preferred. Will get tossed around a lot.
What the fuck is the power output of your typical mobo onboard audio? I'm getting paranoid because I accidentally blasted my K7XX at 100% volume for a bit before smashing my spacebar.
Ayyy I need a good pair for music production
>Budget
$300-400
>Location
Australia
>Source
PC w/ dac + amp
>Preferred type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Not too clamping but clarity is priority
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
Pretty much everything
>Past headphones
ath m50x - only liked the detachable cable
Whats the verdict on these?
From what ive seen, people claim they are good for just about anything.
Anyone own a pair? Anything better for less? (looking for a headphone with a subtle V tonal balance.)
>>51642901
Find out what codec is on your motherboard and find the spec sheet, it's kinda hard to give an 'average'.
>>51642981
I don't think their tonal balance is "slightly" v-shaped
>>51642994
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/datasheets/ALC889_DataSheet_1.0.pdf
Found this, but Ctrl-F can't find find 'mW' or even 'watt'. Am I missing something?
Audio-Technica M30
y/n?
>>51643084
How so? Is it really overexerted?
>>51642981
Its good. Its not really subtle, but I'd call it more like U-shape tonal.
>>51642896
That isn't what you said. You're actually the one here moving goalposts. Impedance is 100% relevant to deciding what you need to drive headphones. dB SPL/V is merely a simpler way to determine expected volume levels without taking into account damping, which is fucking retarded.
Stop being fucking retarded. There are articles littering the internet about this subject. All you have to do is read them. There isn't any controversy over the idea that high impedance headphones need a powerful source. Like an amp.
>>51643109
that seems to be the one they used in that dac roundup before
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/high-end-pc-audio,3733-6.html
>>51643269
>There isn't any controversy over the idea that high impedance headphones need a powerful source. Like an amp.
Yes there is, it leads to newbies assuming things like the HD600 needing a discrete amplifier to get loud enough when they don't. Modern onboard solutions are plenty.
I'm actually trying to find a new microphone
using a $30 chinese condensor right now....
I'm considering the AT 2020, however I'm also wondering if there's anything in the sub-300 range that can perform exceptionally better
any ideas?
My HD 598 SEs arrived. They are literally the exact same thing as my HD 558s. Why is this allowed?
>Budget:
Around ~$125 ish maximum, willing to pay a bit more but cheaper is better as I am poor
>Location:
USA, CA
>Source:
Computer
>Preferred type of headphone:
Full sized
>Open or closed:
Whatever sounds best
>Comfort level:
Comfy enough to wear all day without irritation
>Preferred tonal balance:
Neutral as possible
>Preferred music
No huge preference, tend to listen to electronic and classical music more than most other genres.
>Past headphones
MDR-V6 and some shitty In ear ones, V6s were fine but cable started fraying
>Other
I don't mind buying a pair of used ones and just replacing the ear pads if that will get me better sound at a lower price.
>>51643318
Good goy.
>it leads to newbies assuming things
why am i supposed to care about this
>>51643299
http://amzn.com/B007W294X8
>>51643318
To trick idiots like you of course.
>>51643405
Because it's the reason we get 50 posts a thread asking which amp/dac to get for their Tascam TH-02s.
Snapped up some DT770 80s for $170CAD during a Black Friday sale on Amazon. Did I do good?
>>51643299
http://amzn.com/B0007NQH98
>>51642897
M40x
>>51643434
Yeah that's a good price for them. I think that's the lowest they've been in the states too (~$125USD).
>>51643425
no matter how hard you try, people will always come ask the same questions. besides, hes not saying anything wrong. it's not his fault that people are misinterpreting words and spreading fud. its more important that you speak with the utmost correctness so that people WITH half a brain make proper use of good information.
your philosophy is also whats wrong with public schooling. i bet youre a fucking teacher
>>51642897
Shure 315K
>>51643152
Yes, I think so at least.
>>51643441
Ok, this microphone is absolutely beautiful, and it comes in so far under budget that I can upgrade my preamp and buy some sound dampening related things
Thank you, anon
Only $89,999 for physics-defying noisefloors
http://www.msbtech.com/products/dacSelect.php?Page=../index
Why haven't you bought yours yet?
(On another note MSB always manage to make the internals look nice as fuck, Apple-tier even.)
>>51643299
What are the takstar ts-671 like?
>>51643811
>not getting the Theater Master 8 Channel Hybrid DAC for $124,995
What are you, fucking poor?
>>51643848
Pfft, that is so snake oil.
>>51643848
>not buying at least 2 of them given the great price
>>51643924
Pretty much a steal desu.
>>51643813
Very large, very comfortable headphones, roughly the same sup size as the akg k702
The sounds is very spacious, and extremely detailed, on par with the Grados or the Stax
The sound signiture is slightly boosted with the bass, although not to a horrible extent, overall it's a relatively neutral sound
They don't require an amplifier, and can be driven to ear-splitting levels on any source, although they do have a 1/4 plug by default
Would highly recommend, one of the best bangs for the buck out there
So there's some conflicting information in this thread and being an idiot, I don't know.
Do K240 studio headphones benefit from an amplifier?
>>51643848
Don't forget your analog components, anon.
http://www.ttvjaudio.com/mobile/Product.aspx?ProductCode=AAA0001000
Is the Superlux HD681 EVO worth it at its price point? I was thinking about getting it as my first pair of headphones, I'm a poorfag
>>51643808
Anytime anon
>bought hd800s
>don't want to wear them down
>use vr6's everyday
Best amp/DAC for K240's?
>>51644335
>best amp/dac for...
odac/02 or modi2/magni2
'good' wireless iems for the gym/working out?
>>51644359
>iem
>good
pick 1
>wireless
>good
pick 1
>wireless
>iem
pick 1
>gym
>music
pick 1
>gym
>using 'good' headphones
pick 1
>>51644056
if you aren't going to believe me when i already told you they do then just do your own fucking research idiot
>>51644426
Why don't you post proof that they need it? Like, calculated evidence, not some idiots opinion.
>>51644435
why would i waste my time, the evidence is out there easily for anyone who wants to take five minutes to know what to look for, i gave him a simple yes answer that they benefit from amplification, i dont need to defend that because i know for a fact its true
>>51644444
Nice quints. K240s need an amp confirmed.
>>51644444
Evidence on the internet suggests they are plenty efficient, the OLD K240 needed amplification for sure.
Old as in the ones Tyll measured, literally vintage status.
>>51644385
aight brb let me buy some $700 headphones thatll get fucked up when i work out.
>>51644444
>literally advertised as "Perfect for Portable Audio"
Next you're going to tell me AKG themselves are stupid. I mean sure, they are in the sense that they can't make a decent headphone apart from the N90Q which is overpriced as fuck especially when the Everest 700 Elite exists.
>>51644513
>Next you're going to tell me AKG themselves are stupid.
>Literally admits they are in the next sentence
Well, thanks for doing my work for me.
>Budget
70 dollars, flexible to 100 if you think its really worth it compared to a 70 dollar pair.
>Location
USA
>Source
Straight to PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Not uncomfortable
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
Rap and hip hop mostly, but I listen to other very different genres so I definitely don't want to be limited
>Past headphones
Superlux HD668B, had these for a few years and they have had like 10 hours a day usage, the leather is cracked as hell and gross, and it's time for a new pair.
>>51644589
takstar hi2050
>>51644648
everything about those seem good, except for the brand that I have never heard of, although I'm not an audio enthusiast by any means, and I don't like the silver look of it. Definitely the best option I've seen though.
>>51644811
just another chinkphone brand like superlux
>Budget
$100 - $200 USD
>Location
Burgerland
>Source
Mostly PC for gaming, sometimes will use for tablet or phone for music/movies
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed - I tend to travel a lot and work on the road. The less sound leakage the better, especially if I'm on a plane. Noise cancelling is not as important for me, as I prefer to have the volume up loud anyway.
>Comfort level
The comfier, the better.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral/bassy
>Preferred music
All kinds - classic rock, soul, rap, EDM
>Past headphones
Shitty Astros. Mic not important obv.
>>51632770
>Budget: 100-200$, can vary a bit
>Location: freedom land
>Source: desktop pc
>Preferred type of headphone: over ear, full
>Open or closed: closed
>Comfort level: high as possible without raising price
>Preferred tonal balance: not too important, but neutral if possible
>Preferred music: /mu/tant here. dont feel like answering without being 'that guy'.
>Past headphones: turtle beach earforce X11s (that i got for free :V)
thanks /g/uys
>>51645010
ye im this guy (^)
and ill have whatever hes (v) having lol
>>51644910
>>51644910
I'd recommend extending your budget another ~$30 and buying a pair of MSR7s. Maybe the MDR-7506s if you can deal with the long as fuck wire. (Or solder a headphone jack)
If you're not bothered by looking like an autist in public, the Beyer DT770s or the Takstar Pro 80s are worth the look.
IM70
Yay or nay
AKG K550 or ATH M50x lads?
>>51632770
Anyone got the link to the pasebin for g-approved earbuds?
>>51645202
Have you tried the wiki which is right there in the OP?
>>51645149
m50x, I hah k550s and returned them
>>51643269
>without taking into account damping, which is fucking retarded
By damping logic though, high impedance headphones need a nice amplifier less, while low impedance headphone need it more.
But then, damping (back EMF) is not the problem you make it out to be.
>>51644481
You didnt comprehend any of that post did you?
>>51643434
I'm torn between these and the 990s. I want that superior soundstage of the 990s but I want the sexy bass of the 770s. I've also never tried open headphones so I'm not sure if I'll like them or not.
>Budget
40 euro
>Location
Estonia
>Source
Sony Xperia Z3
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
I don't care
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral or whatever
>Preferred music
Folk metal - Skalmold, Metsatoll, Korpiklaani
>Past headphones
Sony MDR-NC31E
I will probably buy Philips shl5705 cause they are nice looking.
>>51645504
Why?
Someone make a new general
Looking at either a mackie cr4 or a jbl lsr305. Which one would be the better option to buy. I'm guessing the jbl lsr305 is going to sound a little better but reading about the build quality of it is kind of off putting.
This is off beat from the thread but does anyone recommend any sort of bluetooth headphone receiver or bluetooth headphones/earbuds? I find that the comfort of being able to walk around my room > the minor sound improvement of a wired connection.
>>51646013
Don't listen to that guy. Audio techinca's M series headphones are generally one of the more uncomfortable headphones on the market today. If you enjoy bloated bass and artificial highs and don't give a shit about mids or your skull then i'd recommend them. K550 is a better headphone in every regards. The only major problem it has going for it is that it doesn't seal properly on some peoples heads.
Getting better earpads for the M50/M50x changes the sound quality of them too much and just makes them sound awful
>>51641587
v6
or do you mean IEMs?
fidelio s2 if you don'r care about isolation that much, se215 if you do, though its more bass-heavy.
>>51641851
because they like colored, usually v-shaped shit like m50 and are too pleb to do any research or gain an understanding of measurements and signatures. when they get the 598 they're shocked by the lack of coloration in the bass and highs especially. they literally expect every higher priced "good" headphone to sound exactly like their current pair but "better".
>>51646061
what the fuck does the build quality matter are you going to be throwing them around or are you going to leave them once you've placed them
>>51646436
they expect the hd598 to sound good and they're thoroughly disappointing when they find out it's a meme
sennheiser nobass veil mudsimulators, not even once.
>>51642981
people who own them love them, people who don't shitpost them. that should tell you enough. sig is like a mix of bassy/dark and mild v-shape. bass hump, relatively even mids, slight rolling off into the highs but a bit spiky around 5k and 8k, which gives it that extra "sparkle". I don't find them fatiguing at all and I'm pretty sensitive to that, but I do eq to lessen the bass hump and those spikes a bit. something like a 598 or 600 wins out in the mids department by a bit but otherwise yes they do handle everything very well. if you want something closer to neutral, more polite sounding though, get something like hd600, ma900, he400s. X2 is for people who want open and bass.
>>51646061
lsr305 easy, they're in another league. the mackie isn't bad but it's in the same league as rokit, more colored, less detailed, not a true studio monitor. so unless the price difference is huge get the JBL.
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