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>Previous thread:
>>51437617
>>51456187
>Anime
Opinion discarded
>>51456240
too bad youll never know what his opinion is
>>51456187
>anime girl
>bose headphones
Triggered
Is the HD 600 is a low Impedance headphone?
>>>51456131
The e10k is already here, ordered it from amazon, so I don't think there should be issues returning it. Did some reading around and people tend to say that a ALC892 is not enough to drive a k612 pro.
>>51456510
It's really interesting if what you're saying is true. K612 is one of the hardest headphones to drive when it comes to non-estat headphones.
>>51456614
shoulda bought the automatic k612s
>MFW ANIME GIRL
>>51456407
yes
What do I do when I'm completely satisfied with my headphones and have no desire to spend any more on headphones ever again?
>>51456881
Spend it on drugs
>>51456407
High impedance, high sensitivity.
It's an easy headphone to power and can reach acceptable listening levels from phones, USB DACs, onboard soundcards, etc.
>>51456881
Speakers. I feel the same way with my HD600 and I have no desire to buy another headphone.
>>51456642
>mfw you
>>51456881
-speakers
-earphones
-music
-something else entirely
>>51456920
thanks, but why do everyone when I search on google say to get amps for the HD600 even though its not needed?
>>51456881
Don't buy more, just buy the latest cheap chink IEM's for the sake of having a bunch of them in your drawer for a laugh lad.
>>51456968
Because they think 300ohms automatically means 'needs an amp', or maybe they feel that an amp will make it sound better, or maybe some other audiophile bullshit.
how do I connect JBL LSR305 speakers to this?
>>51456998
Higher ohms means better for a headphone, meaning it won't get blown easly, correct me if I'm right.
>>51457029
http://www.amazon.com/Hosa-CMP153-Cable-Inch-Dual/dp/B000068O3C
>>51457054
tenks
>>51456187
TAKSTAR
A
K
S
T
A
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They should nearly exactly the same as my brother 770's and only cost £35 including delivery from amazon.
>>51457223
>should
Sound, I'm a fucking moron.
Would getting a DAC improve the quality sound? Or should I get it only if I can hear weird noises?
>>51457242
I have the fiio e10k and it has eliminated the shitty 'noise' from my onboard, I cant say if it improves the sound quality really but some headphones require the extra power in order to get enough volume, it's fairly cheap and worth it imo.
>>51457300
> I cant say if it improves the sound quality really but some headphones require the extra power in order to get enough volume
When you say this are you reffering to amps?
>>51457321
i think he's saying if you plug headphones into a DAC, it can sometimes have trouble functioning properly because the headphones aren't receiving enough electricity through the output port to work properly
>>51456187
Just ordered these. The reviews say they're good. What's /g/'s opinion/experience? Are they good for everyday use (music/movies on laptop/smartphone etc.)?
>>51457477
theyre shit
32omh vs. 250omh vs 600omh ?
Main use will be for music. No dac/amp if that matters
>>51457490
get the 250ohm and get an amp eventually, because there will be some music that wont quite get loud enough (maybe)
or be a real g, get the 600ohm with an amp now
>>51457488
>dubs
R-reason?
>>51457514
theyre just shit ok
>>51457477
Wait for this to happen.
>>51457514
they just dont measure impressively. it's pretty good since you got them 50% off though, so itll be worth it
>>51457431
In that case will you require an amp? Also I get confused a lot, do amps make the sound louder or improve sound quality?
>>51457564
louder and decrease sound quality :)
>>51457534
Isn't that supposed to happen?
>>51457540
>dont measure impressively
What does that mean?
Is there a better choice for $120?
>>51457477
If you can live with the awful comfort, you still fucked up because M40x is better and cheaper.
You got what you deserved for listening to reddit.
>>51457477
overhyped,but sounds decent(not complete shit), but its got nice build quality.
>>51457579
l mean, did you put any thought into your purchase? did you want closed like the m50x? did you know what kind of tonal balance youre looking for? im questioning how much you actually know
Thoughts about AD900x?
>>51457576
So amps distort the sound quality.
But do ALL amps decrease the sound quality?
Like the O2 I heard that they are very neutral
>>51457649
>how much you actually know
Next to nothing. I was looking at the HD 558's but these seemed better from the reviews.
Like I said, for the average user, are these fine? Or could I have done better at the same price?
>>51457675
Im the guy with the e10k and it allows you to increase the volume, I have dt 770's and they are quiet if I plug them straight into my pc,phone or ps4 controller for example, the e10k gives me much more volume and it does not decrease the sound quality, it improves it if anything and gets rid of the 'noise' from my onboard sound.
>>51457762
as i said, since you gottem 50% off, cant really go wrong.
>>51457808
Doesn't a DAC get rid of the 'noise'?
Maybe because the sound is louder you can't hear the 'noise'.
>>51457810
Cool. I'm always afraid of buyers remorse and coming to 4chan usually doesn't help.
>>51457841
the e10k is a dac and it gets rid of the noise because headphones etc plug directly into it, computer noise happens because the pc components are too close together or not shielded properly.
If you are looking at a first DAC just buy the fiio e10k, it's cheap,tiny and I cant fault it in anyway, maybe more exspensive DAC'S give better sound but I can't see it personally, unless you have headphones that require ridiculous amounts of power.
>>51457964
oh the fiio e10k is both a DAC and AMP
>>51457964
So I should only get a DAC if I hear any weird noises.
And get only an amp if the sound isn't loud enough.
Correct me if I'm wrong please
>>51458086
People generally say that dac's improve the sound quality but I cant really tell, I'm just glad it gets rid of the shitty noise and gives me the option of blasting the sound even louder than before If I want to (usually if i'm drunk lel), When you say amp do you mean like pic related?, if that's the case I would say it's not worth it especially if it's for headphones, 5.1 or more speakers and that's a different matter though.
>>51457882
>I'm always afraid of buyers remorse and coming to 4chan usually doesn't help.
>tfw I'm so scared of buyer's remorse that I haven't purchased anything yet
>tfw 4chan isn't helping either
>>51458177
Amps like the O2 and Magni for headphones if the sound isn't loud enough?
>>51458233
There are 3 recommendation guides in the OP and a template to request purchase advice.
>there are people in these threads who never heard a good OTL tube amplifier
>dat soundstage
>dat black background
>dat liquid midrange
Enjoy your shitty bright O2 you delusional faggots.
>>51458234
The only DAC I have ever owned is the e10k, if computer noise is one of your problems then I would suggest that you buy it, don't feel the need to spend loads on something that might be placebo, if your headphones are good then they will sound good through the e10k and it's fairly low in price, that's all I can say.
>>51457882
should come to hpg before buying stuff, not after and $120 isn't 50% off, meme50x never been $240 ( http://camelcamelcamel.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-M50x-Professional-Monitor-Headphones/product/B00HVLUR86 ).
>>51458295
I bet you have lots of sex
>>51458295
>OTL tube amplifier
List some names of some
>>51458295
>OTL tube amplifier
extreme high heat, which often caused the tubes to fail or even explode!
>>51458295
OTL tube amps are unreliable and expensive, it is simply not worth to get them
>>51458277
Already read, already asked, it helped, but then I kept lurking to see if more opinions came accidentally out on their own. Problem is they did. And they were conflicting.
>>51458409
What conflicting information did you get?
>>51458409
Heres a tip, sound quality to people is all SUBJECTIVE, so people think different things just like you will. Buy a headphone you think is good, try it out and compare. Also looking at graphs doesn't really show a headphone true quality
>>51458409
What are you currently looking for?, if you want great cheap IEM's I can vouch for the KZ ED9's or Piston 3's. If you want great 'cheap' headphones I can vouch for the Takstar 2050 (£36 on amazon) or the DT 770's for £99.
Honestly go for any of those, I'm not a regular on /g/ but I come to the hpg and battlestation threads when I'm drinking for some reason, I'm not a pony tail sandal wearing autist like most here, trust me.
If you are looking to spend a lot more than I cant help you unfortunately.
sup /hpg/ I bought the philips shl3300 around january and was amazed at how good they were being only 35-44 usd (I live outside of the us), but this monday the jack got screwed and now I dont really know if I should upgrade them for something more expesive, buy the same or try to fix the plug/jack ( I have never fixed a pair of headphones in my life) . Any recommendations anons?
HD650 or X2 for hip hop listening?
>>51458546
HD650. By far.
>>51458546
X2. By far.
>>51458432
Etymotic HF-5:
>MUH NEUTRAL RESPONSE BEST EVURRR
>Hurr no extension, weak cheap plastic, 8$ driver
>>51458446
Yeah, I figured that out; it's just that I don't want to waste money in trial and error. Again, buyer's remorse is a bad beast: already experienced it with the Momentum 2.0, good thing I bought them on amazon.
>>51458477
Appreciated m8. Actually I was on the more expensive IEMs, specifically those at roughly 100$ (in the guide they're called the point of diminishing return).
>>51458546
650 for background listening
X2 for when you want to enjoy your music
O' wisemen of /g/, eremites of the great frigid plains of Gentoo
Lend me, the uneducated and lacked of discipline, your boundlessly insightful counsel and advise
Given a budget of about 150 units of negotiable pan-european currency, are the Sennheiser 558's pretty much the final answer to any question a pleb looking to make a bragging rights purchase may ask?
I'm looking for something that wears lightly, and likely open backed. Something good for the vidya. Music I like tends toward stuff with groovy distorted guitar riffs and darker sort of electronic - so I'm not sure if I should be looking for something warmer/with more bass.
It would be powered by this Xonar D1 sound card I have here.
Thank and much kind for any retort
>>51458546
HD650 is more accurate while providing a better bass response overall. X2 is mostly boomy upper bass, the HD650 does better at sub-bass.
Midrange to treble is also far superior on the HD650 as the X2 is recessed in the midrange and has a bad treble peak.
Get the HD650, ignore X2 shills.
>>51458589
HF5 is bass heavy to be honest.
>>51458619
HD558 is neutral, if you want warmer HD518 is the choice but I find them somewhat muffled.
>>51458653
>>51458546
650 is laid-back and boring
X2 is fun and engaging
I'd go with the X2
>>51458546
X2 = literally no mids.
Ignore the shills shilling their reddit-endorsed FOTM shit.
>>51458630
>HF5 is bass heavy to be honest.
And this completes the circle. HF-5 has no bass. HF-5 is neutral. HF-5 is bass heavy.
>>51458763
The measurements show a slight roll off.
>>51458738
4chan was shilling the X2 way before reddit desu senpai
When reddit started shilling them too, hpg went full retard and started hating them desu senpai
>>51458546
>snoozeheiser
not even once
>>51458589
m8 I bought a pair of £70 yamaha's from the IEM guide a while ago and they were good but slightly worse than the piston 3's and the KZ ED9's, I sent them back to amazon pronto.
The KZ's come with two different nozzle's, one gives more bass and the other is cleaner all around with less bass, I bought them on ali express for about £6 it's fucking ridiculous, try those out or the piston 3's which are easier to find (ebay etc) but a bit more exspensive, I would argue that the KZ's are the best although they're very close.
>>51458797
especially for hip hop. 0 bass impact
>>51458763
Consider this:
A near perfect diffuse-field equalized IEM like Etymotic ER-4B is the most neutral thing on the market right now.
The HF5 has less treble and midrange compared to the ER-4B, therefore the HF5 has too much bass to be neutral.
My HF5 sounds close to my Momentum. Once sealed properly, bass is not an issue on the HF5.
>>51458546
I would get the HD650, better resale value too.
Philips is already working on an X2 replacement.
>>51458763
The hf5 is shit m8. I can take you a timestamped screenshot right now because I own them.
No bass. Uncomfortable. Microphonics from hell.
Aggressive treble and lacking everywhere else, you'll subconsciously turn the volume up to compensate. The end result is ear rape via frequency and insertion.
>>51458861
>recommending headphones based on resale value and rumors
fucking lol, that's some thinly veiled shilling
>>51458875
You're wrong though, the treble is rolled off as fuck, see:
>>51458825
You probably didn't insert them correctly. They are deep insertion IEMs.
>>51458630
This. X2 has shit tier sub-bass and can only do well at providing boom but not impact.
Look at InnerFidelity measurements. The HD650 goes deeper.
>>51458332
dude dont tell him that. it was funnier before you fucked me
what is wrong with you you stupid nigger
>>51458898
You probably have damaged hearing or is some 30 year old fag.
>>51458939
>I don't know how to properly insert IEMs into my ears
>I don't know how to read frequency response graphs
You're a fucking retard.
>>51458954
Go get your ears checked. Walmart earbuds sounds better than the hf5.
>>51459040
>I don't know how to read frequency response graphs
You're still a fucking retard.
>>51459040
literally no bass all mids shitheiser-tier garbage
>>51459125
Name a more neutral IEM that isn't Etymotic branded.
You can't.
>>51459092
If you wanted someone to explain the graph to you you could've just ask, you know. Didn't need to bait this hard.
Treble starts after 2k and the hf5 peaks around 3k, and there's a nearly 15db difference in comparison between the low and the mids. I forgot what the perceived dB loudness scale goes but 15db is at least 4~5x louder.
The graph goes exactly in line with what I said before and I didn't even look it up. Because you know why? Because I'm not a fucking faggot peddling shitty iems for a living.
>>51459125
beyer shill pls
>>51459177
It's a raw graph, it's supposed to peak around 3K.
Learn how humans' ears work. Perceived loudness has nothing to do with accuracy.
>>51459180
It's only no bass when it isn't Beyer.
Why are shills so fucking stupid?
>>51459177
brb equalizing my flat speakers to match loudness scale
>>51459180
bass is not supposed to be equal with with midrange in headphones and especially in IEMs where it has even less impact
>>51459201
> it's supposed to peak around 3K
Fucking kek
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Also it's not about the peak, the issue is the peak being 4x louder than other frequencies. It's literally shit tier and kinda expected of $8 off the shelf drivers.
>>51459266
>bass is not supposed to be equal with with midrange
>>51459275
You don't have any idea what you're talking about but keep pretending that you do because it makes you look like an even bigger fool.
You used a raw graph here:
>>51459040
And now you're using a smoothed diffuse field graph here:
>>51459275
Again, learn how humans' ears work.
Or you can continue to shitpost and make yourself look like a retard.
>>51459275
>Fucking kek
>>51458808
The Piston 3 were my first choice but then I saw they don't isolate like I wish, so I went for the most isolating. And then I opened Pandora's Box. The posts above are a proof on how insane shit gets with highly debated headphones/IEMs.
>>51459275
>$8 off the shelf drivers.
That's an achievement considering that the HF5 blows $1000 IEMs like SE846 out of the water.
>>51459283
based ignorant fool
>>51459340
>that fucking 15db difference vs 7db hd800s
How to simulate etymotic experience:
>Open up your favorite eq
>Add 15db @3k
>>51459456
>I have no idea what I'm talking about but let me continue to shitpost
>Budget
$150
>Location
US
>Source
Directly into motherboard, I do have a soundcard from a quick fever of stupidity (Xonar DGX) but I don't use it and I get noise from my back panel. I am not willing to buy an amp/dac as of right now.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open or semi open.
>Comfort level
Everyone wants high, willing to mod for comfort
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral, but not boring like the MDRV6
>Preferred music
Male vocalists, rock and getting into electronic recently. Really like bands like Can, Swans, and Boris.
>Past headphones
MDRV6, Grado Sr60 (started to break pretty early, I don't want to buy anymore Grado products)
Trying to narrow down my options for Black Friday. So far I got the AD900x, DT880 with deep discount or the DT990. I looked at some AKGs at the price range and I wasn't impressed and the Beyersremorse may need an amp which worries me. So far the AD900x seems like my best bet but I would like some opinions.
>>51459558
What makes MDR-V6 boring?
AD900x has weak bass. DT880 is quite bright. AKG's K612 and K702 are inefficient and need an amp. You might find Sennheiser's HD558 boring but it's the most neutral open headphone at that price range.
Got my new K612 Pro and after some test listening connected my fiio e10k. The sound seems completely different in comparison to my onboard ALC892, should this be the case? It seems like the mids are way stronger.
>>51459584
>it's the most neutral open headphone at that price range.
>no bass, no treble = neutral
>>51459602
There shouldn't be a massive difference but if anything the E10K should be transparent as opposed to the onboard ALC892 which may high high output impedance.
>>51459604
Nice shitpost. Now please kill yourself you meme-spouting permavirgin shitposter.
>>51459584
K612 is more neutral
My second shure cable broke at the exact same spot my first one did. The little piece that goes around your ear has a metal bar in it and it snapped. Should I just get different cable or is there some magic to it?
>>51459676
That's wrong.
>>51459698
>different cable
I meant different earbuds.
>>51459701
It's not. The K612 has a bump at 2-3KHz while the HD558 has severe veil due to roll off straight from the midrange. They both have their colorations but the K612 is a bit more balanced.
>>51459698
I don't like Shure IEMs, try Westone for around the ear fit.
>>51459768
K612.
>>51459789
HD558
>>51459808
>>51459789
HD558 looks more neutral here, just saying.
>>51459698
Remove the plastic and the wire completely , it's more comfortable that way.
Expensive high end cables doesn't even have memory wires.
>Budget
$500 and under
>Location
Florida, USA.
>Source
iPhone 6S Plus, LG G4
>Preferred type of headphone
Custom IEM
>Open or closed
:^)
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral. I don't like bass heavy shit
>Preferred music
All genres.
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD800, Etymotic Research HF5, Sony MDR-V6, Audio-Technica ATH-AD700, Grado SR60i.
I really love the Etymotic sound signature so I want a custom IEM that's closest to that.
I have no idea where to start with customs so I want something reputable I suppose. I am okay with a single driver. Again, I hate warm or other various colorations, I'd prefer neutral.
>>51459954
Nobel has some $40 driver $600 iems if being a fucking retard is your thing
>>51459871
I'll give this a shot. The rod ended up puncturing the wires on my last cable.
>>51459984
Last time I bought new cables I promptly removed the memory wire before use. Just be careful near the end of the connector and trim instead of pull. The wire you can pull out with no issues.
>>51459981
I don't want something from a meme-tier company.
I want something reputable with measurements at least (manufacturer measurements are okay).
I have no idea where to start with custom IEMs because I'm only seeing misinformation on the internet.
I was looking at CustomArt's stuff but it seems like I'll have to contact the seller to find out more info about them, it's also Europe based it seems.
M40x, MDRV6 or SHP9500 for pc gaymin and animu?
>>51460165
M40x.
SHP9500's pads are shit and can't be replaced. V6's pads disintegrate quickly.
>>51460054
Neutral is code word for sub $30 Knowles drivers + 5000% mark up. If that's not a meme I don't know what is.
>>51460054
>reputable with measurements at least
>custom IEM
That's very short list. That you want it to sound like an Ety makes it even harder, it's hard to find near DF IEMs outside Etymotic.
Piotr (Customart) is one of the few people who publishes any measurements of custom IEMs. What's more, he actually measures it properly. His single driver is the most Ety-like, you can see raw 711 graphs on his site.
Some stuff from Hidition, maybe, but I don't know too much about their lower range. There might be another manufacturer or two, let me find them.
>>51460245
If that is what neutral is, I'll happily take it.
>>51460252
First time hearing about Hiditon but since it's Korean based I doubt getting one is possible.
That's why I liked CustomArt, he seems to be honest about his measurements.
Sure and thanks, I await your response.
Which audiophile companies makes gaming headsets in addition to Sennheiser, Beyerdynamic and Audio-Technica?
>Sony MDR-7506/Sony MDR-V6
Are they the same, I keep hearing that the V6 has more bass.
>i want neutral
>but not as boring
>>51460546
They're the same, if there's a difference it's due to manufacturer variance.
hello /hpg/, will I notice any changes/reduction in sound quality from speakers that have RCA connections if I run them through via an RCA to 3.5mm adapter to a DAC/AMP that only has 3.5mm input?
>>51460722
yes your electrons will get congested and the soundstage will grow smaller and EM interference will go up
>>51460519
AKG make the best headsets for gaming pham. Beyer as well like you said.
>>51460739
Are you serious? I don't know enough about this kind of stuff to tell if you're bullshitting me or not.
>>51460739
dont forget the rotational velocidensity will be through the roof
>>51460722
no, absolute
>>51460765
>I don't know enough about this kind of stuff
you've made that pretty clear, time to stop posting
>>51460767
nah he could just put the dac/amp on its side to null the horizontal rotational forces
>>51460785
THERE IS NO EXCAPING THE VELOCIDENSITY
EVEN IF YOU DO THAT
YOU WILL NOT BE SAFE
YOU ARE NEVER SAFE
>>51460800
HE-400S > Fidelio x2?
>>51460827
Yes, better than the HD6x0 as well according to father Tyll
>>51460827
>>51460840
HD600 > HE-400S > X2
>>51460865
Nah
Experienced listener with his own measurement rig's opinion > random poorfa/g/
>>51460568
boring is lots of bass waterfall
>>51460840
I heard the pads are pretty shite from some reviews. Is that true?
>>51460865
Aren't the HD600's harder to drive though? I have ~300 for headphones but wasn't planning on buying an amp.
Does anyone have any suggestions for wireless over-ear headphones? Preferably closed with neutral balance. I'm trying to stay ~$150. I have ATH M50s, ATH AD700 and HD428s so those are all I've been comparing to.
>>51460916
Yeah but you can replace them with proper pads to get a proper bass response (either Brainwavz or better, Focus-A pads), unfortunately the same cannot be done with the HD6x0 and you're forever stuck with thin, rolled-off bass
>>51460888
Trips truth.
>>51460946
Or you could just EQ the HE400S bass and save $30. They are planars with low distortion.
>>51460979
full velour pads on a planar are retarded, EQing won't give them the proper seal they need
>>51460887
>Tyll
>experienced listener
I had a good laugh with that one.
HD600 is more neutral.
>>51460916
Not by much HE-400S is easier to power but HD600 isn't exactly much harder to drive.
>>51460997
Bad seal = better soundstage, worse frequency response
fact
>>51461002
in relative terms, compared to a nobody hd600 shill who can't afford anything better, he definitely has much more experience in listening
i hope you aren't one of those idiots who thinks they're an experienced listener because they finished goldenears and harman's how to listen
>>51461029
"no"
>>51461162
>"no"
Prove me wrong?
>>51461179
burden of proof is on you, you even claimed it was "fact"
>>51461162
Tyll isn't an experienced listener though. He spouts audiophile shit and believes that cables makes a difference in sound, etc.
It's a fact that the HD600 is more neutral though, preference between both is subjective.
I bought Audiotechnica ATH M50x without reading the recommendations first. Why haven't you included these to the OP? They are excellent monitor headphones.
>>51456187
Fuckin creep...
>>51461589
because they are garbage, fuck off you clueless redditor
>>51461597
How are they garbage?
>>51461628
niggerbass colored shit
>>51461649
Prove it.
>>51461657
>tfw you own HD558
>tfw nothing to upgrade to with a major leap in sound quality
>>51461845
yeah you keep enjoying that high fidelity am radio my friend, there's absolutely nothing better than they are.
>>51458556
>>51458574
>>51458594
>>51458630
>>51458720
>>51458738
>>51458797
>>51458861
I want much bass on headphones but not to much wobbeling and i do allways like neutral sound. I do also listen to trap and dubstep sooo... Guys im going to buy some headphones this wednesday and all i want is good headphones for under 350 dollars.
>>51461961
HD650 has a more even and higher quality bass response.
>>51461986
Is the mad dogs something you recommend?
>>51458295
>>51462015
I don't particularly like it, I think it's too muffled.
You should consider closed headphones if you want quality bass. X2 doesn't cut it in my opinion. HD650 is better but will not provide the tactile sub-bass that you'll get with closed headphones.
Consider DT770 Pro 80ohm.
>>51461597
>fuck off you clueless redditor
Oh sorry your highness! I didn't know that I offended your highness so much. I will never visit this shithole of a thread again, I swear to god.
>>51462138
lol mad he bought shit headphones
are these worth it?
>>51462138
He's just the resident beyer shill shitposter. It's best to ignore him.
>>51462155
p much lmao
>>51462168
why would a beyer shill be complaining about niggerbass? would it make more sense for a sennheiser shill to do so since they like no bass?
I'm thinking of getting a pair of MSR7s, are they really good as they say?
>>51462045
The thing is that i want headphones around the 350 dollar price point. Why? Because i only pay half of the payment. :)
>>51462246
http://www.amazon.com/Beyerdynamic-770-PRO-250-ohms/dp/B0006NL5SM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1448157639&sr=8-1&keywords=beyerdynamic+dt770+pro+250
>>51461693
not really
>>51462192
Sennheiser listeners tend to prefer accurate bass and neutrality on the whole as opposed to beyer shills who prefer inaccuracy.
>>51462345
accurate bass != lack of bass.
>>51458589
What's your impression about Momentum 2.0?
What is the best microphone $50 or less? leaning towards modmic.
>>51461628
They'll break in less than 2 years.
>>51462196
It's good, but the comfort is average for its price and the sound signature are not for everyone that want fun listening.
just came in the mail
>>51462594
>he actually paid full price for these
dear lord
>>51462568
I can live with average, would the sound signature go well with vaporwave?
>>51462653
I've never listen to vaporwave. But the sound signature is bright with emphasis on treble(not ear-rape treble in dt880).
But it can fare well with shoegaze as you can feel the ambience.(if you've heard some shoegaze though)
HE-400i will be on seal for 300 on Monday. How are they compared to the HD650/600?
>>51462639
u jelly poorfag
>>51463084
not really since i can get the same thing for half the price lmao
>>51463093
>buying used goods
headphone kuck
>>51463102
>used
kek
>>51462996
Inferior, it's less neutral.
>>51462996
better, it's actually balanced unlike the hd6x5 because it has bass and treble response.
>>51462414
Mixed feelings.
>The good.
The design is astonishing, simply beautiful (I had the Ivory version), and the build quality is good too: the leather, the stitches, all very refined.
Very lightweight, but it felt solid nonethelss.
The earpads were super comfortable, although I think they could use more padding because it felt there was more leather than padding, and once you put them on your ears they squashed a lot. Still, they felt like a pillow.
They come with a rigid pouch and a microfiber bag, which are nice to have.
>The not good nor bad
They fold up, the hinge is solid and firm, very well engineered, but they still required a lot of space: I don't think they're *really* portable as they maybe intend to be; you still need a bag of some kind to carry them since it's basically impossible to store them in your pocket.
The outside shells of the earcups are made of plastic which sure, it keeps the weight low, but to the touch it feels awful, especially compared to the rest of the materials.
They only give you one flat flimsy shitty cable that is android-only or apple-only; for the money you spend it would be nice if they'd give you at least both android and apple ones. Also, the cable is detachable, but the connector is proprietary.
>The bad
Isolation at first was ok, but then I tried them more thoroughly and I was left extremely disappointed; I think they even amplified some frequencies of outside noise.
They do not go along with glasses at all, and I soon realised the disappointing sound performance was due to the temples braking the seal of the earpads with the skin. Even without glasses (that I have to use since I'm rather myopic) I don't think I was really able to achieve good sealing because of hair and beard.
The cost. I wanted them really bad and I knew I was going to pay a premium for the look and the brand, but once I tried them I realized the look and the build quality and everything weren't enough to justify their cost, hence the buyer remorse.
>>51462844
yeah i think i might get a pair
>>51462844
>not ear-rape treble in dt880
I see you've yet to listen to the DT990, DT770, every Tesla model from Beyer, HD800 and most if not all Superlux headphones and all Grados headphones then because they make the DT880's treble pretty tame in comparison.
What are good, comfortable headphones for glasses-fags?
>>51463143
>>51463165
Thanks /hpg/. I can always count on you to post dramatically different opinions.
>>51463252
Sennheiser shills are in every thread because they're being paid to make sure no other manufacturer sells a headphone. It's easiest to just ignore posts with HD600 in them.
For my o2 + odac ... Should I go with a 1.0 - 2.5 gain or the standard 2.5 - 6.5? I have a pair of dt880
Plz respond.
http://www.headnhifi.com/OBJ_O2_ODAC_digital2
Looks like that cheaper, limited edition combo is.. no longer limited edition? Decent price for the eurofags.
>>51463208
Well, its hard to get proper seal with over the ear headphone with glasses. Maybe you can shave for better seal or get some IEM, I guess.
>>51463214
It is a very good headphone at its price. I've never hear closed headphone sounds that good. But again, I didn't bought it because I've expected higher level of comfort in that level price. Its too clampy, but you can always stretch the headband for loose it.
>>51463229
I've not too fond of beyerdynamic as my local store pricing it too high. I own superlux hd668b and the treble not too ear-piercing, maybe because the midrange aren't recessed as dt880.
Grados, well. I've tried it 30 seconds and drop it because I don't like it at all.
>>51462414
Continue from >>51463208
Now, speaking about the sound, before reading you have to consider that I'm not a head-fi power user so I don't have the slightest idea on how to describe the sound with all that absurd jargon that feels like hand waving.
My first and only high quality headphone is the Philips Fidelio X2. I like how they sound. Period. I liked their sound from the first moment I've used them.
With the Momentum 2.0 it wasn't like this: I really had to try to like them, I tried to find reasons why I had to like the sound, and I even found some (like how I could hear each instrument better), because apart from the sound (and the isolation), I loved them.
The best way to describe the feel they gave me is the idea of a speaker playing inside an empty room: it felt like "hollow" or "echoing", I can't express it better. Removing the glasses improved the bass a bit, but not by much, they felt a bit better, but it didn't solve the feel I've just described.
The fear of finding another headphone/IEM whose sound will give me the same feel is what is stopping me from buying anything audio related before being sure of what I'm going to buy.
>>51463377
>Well, its hard to get proper seal with over the ear headphone with glasses
It's a problem only with over ear closed headphones: now I know I have to avoid them.
>Maybe you can shave for better seal or get some IEM, I guess.
>Shave
No fucking way.
>IEM
The one to buy is what I'm trying to figure out, but just mentioning the Etymotic HF-5 seems enough to start a civil war in here.
/g/'s opinion on the ath-ad700x?
>>51463421
You seems like v-shaped sound signature. How about Zero Audio Duoza? You wouldn't like ety because it has flat sound signature.
>>51463442
No bass, great soundstage.
>>51462594
www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/HD800
you got scammed
>>51463473
There is one hard requirement on the IEMs: they must be sold and shipped by amazon (.it/.de/.fr/.co.uk/.es).
A lot of well reviewed IEMs are impossible to find in Europe, and when they are, most of the times they're out my budget (no more than 130€).
I also wanted a very isolating IEM, that's why I was attracted by the Ety. Next on the list comes the SE215, and the RHA-MA750.
>>51463377
>Grados, well. I've tried it 30 seconds and drop it because I don't like it at all.
Absolute shit taste. And here I thought neutral fags were bad.
>>51463581
Don't blame me because I'm trying grado with anime music m8. I know grado have its fans out there for listening to dadrock, it just not up to my preferences. Also the very open design leaked sound too much, I don't want share my anime music to people around me.
>>51463558
Zero Audio Duoza are available in .co.uk though? I don't about the how high isolation you want from IEM to-buy-list.
>>51463656
*don't know
Damn.
I was thinking of going for Fidelio X2, but I just caught a Craigslist posting for a HD 800 at $ USD 650.
I heard the HD 800 before, and it didn't sound like what the usual Sennseiser, being rather clear and somewhat cold. (I am ok with that)
I am not going to ask Head-fi with their amp synergy thing, and I have no better amp than Fiio E17 and this Creative E5 at any rate.
I wonder if I should just hate my wallet and take the plunge, /hpg/.
>>51463656
Grados are practically made for anime music. They're fucking airy with massive Soundstage, impactful tight virgin bass, crystal clear mids to hear your favorite va, and the treble is fucking SPARKLING
God it makes me so sad there won't ever be an iem that will come close to the sr80 let alone the higher end models.
>>51456187
I havent posted in a headphone thread in years...
Is anyone still here since 2012? Last time I was here were ripping on the sh(c)iit magni modi combo.
I havent seen one isince then until yesterday in a DIY vid on circuitry and the guy just happen to have it on his desk
So with all these years having passed how did they really test out?
>>51463735
Nah, its too spicy for my taste. Then again, its very leaky.
Have you tried gr8?
>>51463656
I forgot: measurements should be available somewhere.
>how high
More or less like picture related
>>51463735
Fuck off John Grado, your headphones are shit and the only reason anyone bought them was lack of alternatives
>>51463735
It's either Grados or the Audio-Technicas for dem animay female vocal OPs. I totally agree on this.
>>51463737
I am still using/enjoying my combo, but I don't have a lot of amp/dac experience.
>>51463778
I'm not even being ironic. Give me a hd800 or a t1 and I'll sell them and buy grados.
Also the gr8 sounds nothing like grados.
>>51463796
shouldn't you be shitposting about your favorite sub $200 mediocre memephones?
>>51463823
You have the first gen schiit magni modi?What do you hook up to it?
>>51463870
yfw grado is a step below mediocre
>>51463790
Its hard to find measurement of Zero Audio because no one ever bother to do that. Especially Zero Audio is a new company and measuring IEM is harder than headphone.
>>51463809
Too bad ATH closed headphone never be that comfy
>>51463870
Grados are typical love/hate headphones. I can see why you do that. RS1e or PS1000?
>>51463915
>RS1e or PS1000?
literally an sr60 driver
>>51463675
I can't think of a real equal at that price.
T90? HE-560? Not comparable.
Guess go and try it. Make sure it comes with box and stuff.
>>51463675
at $650 even if you don't like them, if they're in good condition and come with everything you could easily flip them for $800
Any Black Friday deals?
i want to order a new cord for my audio technica earphones but lunashops is down. what do /hpg/?
>>51456881
Buy two, one for work, one for home.
Buy a third for travel.
Buy a forth for emergency backup.
Spend the rest on onaholes.
I have a pair of m50x's and I have been eyeing the AKG Q 701.
What kind of sound differences should I be expecting? (Don't really know much about sound)
Also would it be worth getting a FiiO e10K, for each pair?
>>51463737
Fiio crushed them with much cheaper but functionally identical DACs.
/g/ also learned that many integrated sound cards are good enough, and most of the popular headphones have been low impedance to not require higher voltages from an amp.
>>51464057
>that picture
W H Y ?
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>>51463881
ya, bought them in 8/13. I have a dt990 hooked up.
>>51464103
I have M50s and the AKG k7xx, so comparing those two:
- The AKG is open, this is the biggest difference, everyone will hear your music, fine for at home listening though.
- AKG is entirely unportable, if the above wasn't enough to deter you from carrying it around.
- AKG subbass doesn't fall off as quickly as the M50 does, which doesn't matter most of the time.
I think overall, you'll find them to sound different, but it's hard to pick a clear winner.
>>51464103
The M50x is a closed back design, meaning that it's better for portability as you will have less sound leaking to the people around you.
The Q701 (I had a pair for a while) is open backed and much more neutral in tone when compared to the M50x.
Tldr; Q701: Think, less bass, less mid-forwardness compared to m50x. But not for going outside.
An amp will help the Q701 more so than the M50x. Without amplification the Q701 will lack bass mostly.
Is this a steal? Should I do it?
>>51464198
>Without amplification the Q701 will lack bass mostly.
you have no idea what you're talking about
>>51464198
>>51464180
M50x is nice in that sense that requires very little amping, so you can run it off of a recent Android Phone without any trouble. It really is far better for music listening on the move.
>>51464218
62 ohms is difficult for a majority of sources. The biggest 'missing' tone when under amplified is bass. Other characteristics may be true however if anon is into M50x, then bass would be considered a priority.
