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>>51273380
X2 appreciator reporting in!
Budget
£500 or less
Location
London
Source
My PC
Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
Would preffer open for best sound quality
Sound quality over comfort, but I will be wearing for hours on end
Would like neutral one
I listen to muiltiple type of music
>>51294541
HE400S
>>51294553
It doesn't ship to London
>>51294594
Are you sure about that? It's available on amazon.co.uk
Is there a difference in sound when you compare a portable media player like Sense or iPod to regular smartphones (like Xperia, Nexus5 etc.)
I have Sennheiser's inearbuds and wouldn't mind better player than my Nexus5.
>>51294632
London is not in United Kingdom: Bangladesh is not a colony anymore.
>>51294632
found it
>>51294639
A Sansa can be rockboxed which allow you to have a better EQ and reproduce lossless formats. Both things hardly make a difference, especially when using IEMs.
>>51294639
>Is there a difference in sound when you compare a portable media player like Sense or iPod to regular smartphones (like Xperia, Nexus5 etc.)
The older the phone is, the more likely no one tried to give it decent audio to try and use as a selling point. Now we've got shit like the V10 phablet or whatever its called using audio as a part of its marketing. Smartphones more than a few years old probably aren't very good with audio.
Modern phones are generally good/great with audio quality. I know the iPhone 6S has some stupid issues with EMI and slightly higher than average output impedance (not a problem with the Sennheisers), but not aware of anything else that is new.
I think Nexus 5 was fine.
>>51294735
Android players have parametric EQ and the ability to read all sorts of audio formats.
Are the Soundmagic E10's still the best earphones at the price range?
plz someone
What is the IEM sounding closest to the Fidelio X2?
what are some of the best bluetooth IEM's?
>>51295050
>>51295181
>>51295261
>>51294123
Just understanding how amplifiers work and not falling for placebo is all.
>>51294170
You can stop posting too.
>>51294394
They really don't need an amp and stop painting good fidelity as something bad. It's the opposite.
>>51295261
That idea is repulsive.
>>51295519
Man I just want some bluetooth IEM's for when I'm working out. I know sound is not going to be the best, but I want some *good* ones.
>>51294446
>mfw I bought the piston 3's and they are fantastic for the money
>mfw I also bought the kz 01ED9's from ali express and they are even better and cost me £5 in a sale, FIVE FUCKING POUND DELIVERED.
This chinese meme is incredible, I bought £70 Yamahas's listed in the /hgp/ IEM guide and they were worse than both of the pairs I mentioned.
I'm not a headphone guy but I have found my IEM's for life unless another meme pair somehow manage to be even better.
>>51295593
Forgot to mention that they come with two brass nozzle types, one gives more bass and the other gives a crisper/cleaner sound which I prefer, it even comes with a decent little carry case, why is this allowed at this price.
>>51295593
See you're using Pounds m8, where did you buy from?
Seems hard to believe a £5 pair are better than the Piston 3's, but I don't really like the shape of the P3's
>>51295679
Some audio forum were raving about them saying they are still the best cheap iem's money can buy and better than the pistons 3's, I searched them on ali express and bought them from one of the sellers with a decent rating.
This is the actual listing: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/KZ-ED9-Super-Bowl-Tuning-Nozzles-T-Shaped-Driver-Monitoring-In-Ear-Headphones-HiFi-Earphone-With/32372852938.html?spm=2114.01020208.3.1.6ceKim&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_4_79_78_77_92_91_80,searchweb201644_5,searchweb201560_9
They took around 10 days to get here, enjoy.
>>51294553
Do these needs amps btw? Also would it benefit from it?
>>51295758
You don't need an amp and it's unlikely you would benefit from it.
>>51295745
Thanks m8, fairly cheap so not much to lose
Will look into it
>>51295802
I heard the HE400S is similar to the HD600, but the HD600 benefits from an amp, how would they compare if the HD600 had an amp?
>>51295816
No problem, remember that they arrive with the 'bass' nozzles on so switch to the others if that's what you prefer, I tested the bass ones at first and very quickly switched to the cleaner ones and preferred them, both were great though, I have retired the piston 3's after 3 weeks to my spare pair, never thought I would be saying that anytime soon.
>>51295827
HE400S would still be better. It's basically a HD 600 without the veil.
>>51295859
Alright thanks a lot
mx985 broke, pretty sure it's just the volume control, should not be hard to fix but it's still a bit annoying.
Just got my el cheapo MDR-7506. This thing sounds fucking great, miles above my old, old Astro A40.
Budget
ACAP
Location
netherlands
Source
everything i can stick my 3,5 into
Preferred type of headphone
IEM/earphone
isolation is usually adequate for me with earphones
I just want something with a replaceable cable so the copper jew doest fail on me again
idgaf
I don't understand when people say you have to burn in hours when you use a new headphone, what do mean?
>>51296071
It's driver wearout bro.
>>51296063
>cheap
>replaceable cable
MEElectronics M6 Pro should be available for roughly 50€. I can't think of a cheaper IEM with a removable cable.
>>51294541
HD600
>>51295859
HE400S is not neutral and has a shit frequency response.
>>51296071
>you have to burn in hours when you use a new headphone
You don't. Mechanical aspects of headphones don't much change in use, not enough movement. Easier to blame psychology than the engineering. Pads do wear out, maybe soften up a bit over use.
Don't you ever notice how headphones that are burned in are better to the listener in exactly the way the listener wants them to be?
>>51295593
What's so nice about the KZ and piston, and bad about the yamaha?
>>51296151
fuggg how have I never heard of this brand?
thx anon
>>51296179
So should get the HD600 or HE400s?
Looking for good earphones around £30, any tips?
>>51296214
HD600.
Pic related: The awful FR of the HE-400S.
>>51296264
I have no idea what this graph is trying to say, can you explain what is happening
>>51296279
It shows the frequency response balance of the HE-400S which is quite bad to be honest.
HD600 is a proven product and is more neutral. Don't listen to retards who recommend new and overhyped products.
>>51296298
Do I have to get an amp for the HD 600 for it to sound good?
>>51296321
It won't sound good under any circumstances.
>>51296321
Not necessarily, how do you plan to power it, with your motherboard?
>>51296338
kek, 1dB scale and it looks better than:
>>51296264
which uses a 10dB scale.
>>51296344
I've never used one, so I am using my usb port?
>>51296338
What do you mean not sound good?
>>51296377
>I've never used one, so I am using my usb port?
Your motherboard has a line-out at the back which can be used to power headphones. The green port.
Any recent motherboard can power HD600 easily.
>>51296390
I have an 6 year old computer, its not a good computer
Hey /hpg/, I need new gear.
I use a piano keyboard (SL 990 pro) to play with my VSTs but I only have a cheap usb/midi cable, the onboard audio of my motherboard (Realtek HDAudio ALC 892 aka shit) and a pair of dying G35 gaemer headset.
Chrismas is comming, and I want to get actual audio material.
The budget would be around 250€ for everything (dac/amp ; headphones ; midi cable).
----
>Location
France
>Headphones
Something relatively inexpensive but with good quality, suitable for piano sounds, vidya, animu and music (from orchestral to things like the OST of Metal Gear Rising and some Aphex Twin)
Mainly used with my PC/TV but also sometimes with phone and tablet.
I saw that the ATH M50X were pretty good, while costing 129€ with free delivery which is perfect.
Else the DT770 250 Ohm at 145€
>DAC+AMP and MIDI shit
Now I need to replace the shit I have with some real gear.
The first solution would be somthing like the Focusrite Scarlet 2i2 or the Steinberg UR22, which are USB audio interfaces with some preamp and midi things.
Or I can buy a 30€ Rolland MIDI cable and use the rest for a DAC+AMP solution (Do I really need an AMP ?)
Is the FIIO E10 good ? How about the Schiit Fulla ?
Also waifu.
>>51296414
Try it.
If it doesn't get loud enough, you can get:
http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/products-page/headphone-amplifiers/ehp-o2-portable-headphone-amplifier/
>>51296433
So when I get the HD600, if it isn't loud enough like the volume, I should get that amp right? Just want to confirm
>>51296428
K612 + O2
Sennheiser and their return of the Orpheus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITgKtasYagQ
should I get a divorce and sell my car for this?
Is there anything cheaper with great listening experience?
>>51296551
>Is there anything cheaper with great listening experience?
I'm just parroting here. The answer is always speakers.
>>51296428
Get some new audio interface.
>>51296551
A nice headphone with EQ...among other things
>>51296574
It would be cheaper to do some house renovation into a listening/home theater room.
>>51296551
Yeah, go sell your car and buy some headphones that haven't been measured.
>>51296478
Yes.
>>51296551
Speakers.
>>51296428
DT770 80ohm and 2i2?
>>51296630
what's the REAL difference between 80 and 250 ohms ?
I mean I know that's 170, but in reality what does it change ?
>>51296664
It changes the impedance (Z), and any of the differences in the headphone follow from
-higher impedance
-thinner, longer voice coil with same wire mass
The net effect is less sensitivity to voltage with higher Z, but less impedance interaction, especially if the audio interface has too much output Z.
Im on a tight budget (€25) found the sennheiser 201 for €21.50. What are your thoughts on them?
>>51296664
Should be easier to power and it has a straight cable which you may prefer for TV use.
>>51296806
how much can you get the hd202 for?
>>51296806
I would opt for a KSC75 instead and mod it with a partsexpress headband. Or order a Piston 3.
![314rkz7kcUL._SX300_[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/gjOyWXU.jpg "314rkz7kcUL._SX300_[1].jpg")
RPHJE120
wha isit all about?
is it good?
or isit whack?
>>51296909
It's good, cheap, comfortable.
I prefer it to some IEMs costing in the hundreds and even around $1000.
![alig_featured_photo_gallery[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ewwTRwa.jpg "alig_featured_photo_gallery[1].jpg")
>>51296928
aaii
respect
>>51296909
Comfy and we'll sealing. It has a right angle plug and pretty good build so it'll last longer that a $6 set should. The sound is bassy and veiled with an edge to the treble but any portable equalizer can fix that
Have you ever thought that if you buy a reprap, a welder, and some other instruments and materials, you can make your own IEMs and still spend less than a thousand bucks?
>>51297030
And if you're good with words you can sell them for a thousand bucks :^)
>>51297044
>>51297030
It wouldn't look nice enough, not precise enough. Stereolithographic printers are better, and as it turns out, SLA designs sell for thousands.
Is there a real difference between using the onboard audio chip of your motherboard and using a 100$ DAc/AMP combo like the FiiO E10K ?
>>51297089
No difference.
I got a question. Is it better for me to put down on say a 5.1 Onkyo HTIB setup or go with Audioengine or similar speakers? I've been using Z-5500 for several years by now, and I am not sure what to consider in moving from that setup. I use Xonar D2X sound card to decode mostly.
>>51297114
HTIB sucks.
Audioengine sucks.
Do you regularly view 5.1 media?
Or do you want speakers for music?
Or both?
>>51297089
If your motherboard is shit and produces a lot of noise, yes, otherwise no.
Just ordered piston 3 and kz ate hifi off of aliexpress. Excited to get some iems as all of my past ones were garbage
>>51294446
>Headphones General
>Headphones
>s
Kill yourself.
>>51297149
My PC rig setup is used to game quite a bit. I've been wanting for better resolution with my setup though. It's gonna be hard to say goodbye to positional audio cause of gaming.
>>51297208
>better resolution
Yeah, I love my 4K monitor, oh wait..........
Go for the HTIB if you're on a budget, Audioengine makes shitty speakers.
>>51297235
Was looking at acceptable setup with sat Klipsch Quintet box. I don't have a ton of dough. $400-$800 is my target on this, so no tricked out klipschorn or those fancy acousticmass thingy.
>>51296909
They're passable for the price. I think the Yamaha EPH-100's are much better for a similar cost.
Bought these for 8 euros. Did I fuck it up?
>>51297284
Are you retarded?
The difference in price is massive, I happen to prefer the Panasonic too.
What do you think of the A-Jays ?
>>51297294
they're sublime friend
So on black friday will many headphones and computer stuff go on sale?
>>51297356
Over the past few years I was able to get HD650 and MDR-V6 at some decent prices.
So definitely.
>>51297372
can you recommend me some websites that might go on sale, I don't want to miss any
>>51297356
>computer stuff, headphones
Yes. Not just on Friday but over the weekend.
The price drop and flash sales often continue though to the New Year, but with less regularity. This is less likely for the super expensive stuff, but even stuff like the HD800 goes on sale for 800 bucks around then.
>>51297405
Slickdeals is what I use.
>>51297302
Shit, I meant the EPH-20.
Every time I smoke it's flawless...
(I made a new chart fur you guys)
>Budget
100-150$
>Location
USA
>Source
Directly into desktop
>Type of headphone
Full sized headphone
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
High. Doesn't have to be the absolute best.
>Preferred tonal balance
Is there anyway to test out different balances? Will EQ work? I only have experience with neutral balances. V sounds the most interesting.
>Preferred music
I listen to whatever interests me, but I tend to listen to Swans more than anything. Versatility would be nice.
>Past headphones
Currently using Sony MDRV6, want to get new ones because of comfort issues, and I'm frankly bored of them.
Trying to get a list together for Black Friday.
>>51298261
AD900X
>>51298331
>AD900X
Ew no, DT880.
>>51298370
You think those are going to jump down from $250?
What's bad about the AD900X? I see that people say it has shitty bass but some people say it's punchy and accurate.
Left earpiece sometimes buzzes when I'm using the mic, only when talking. Only had it for a couple months now, and everything else is fine. Should I attempt RMA?
>>51298459
Shitty rolled off bass, you don't want that, you don't even want flat.
You want a slight hump in the bass if you want it to sound flat or an even bigger hump if you want it to sound good (imo)
Truly flat bass sounds fucking terrible on headphones.
>>51298459
they often go on sale for ~$150
AD700x/AD900x are guilty of having absolutely no bass
>>51298622
>>51298650
Alright thanks for the input. I was on the fense on the 900x anyway, especially since it had to have a EQ setup displayed next to it in the buyer's guide. I like the looks of those DT880s I'll keep an eye on them.
Anyone know is there is a mic that you can clip on to the side of your headphones?
>>51298721
Modmic. Their customer support is pretty nice as well.
>>51298737
Thanks man. These things are pretty expensive, any cheaper alternative.
fiio makes great little amps. k7xx is best mid fi headphone since the others have a garbage soundstage. waifu is girl from the leftovers.
>>51298780
Yeah I know, it was the first thing I thought of though. There are some guides to mounting a microphone yourself with velcro strips I think. You could also go full Youtube celebrity mode and get a cheap Chinese swivel arm stand and a actual microphone.
>>51298820
>k7xx
literally inaccurate veiled dogshit
ATH AD2000X has a really high sensitivity, does this mean it sounda good without an amp?
>>51298910
An amp won't make bad headphones sound good.
Can someone explain to me what an "Amp" is actually used for?
>>51298990
Can you read?
>>51299023
To drive Sennheiser and generally low quality headphones.
>>51299023
Signal amplifier with more voltage potential generation and current reserves. May serve as impedance buffer, to lower series Z into headphone.
>>51299023
LOUDER
>>51299118
>>51299109
>>51299083
Would It be stupid buying an Amp for the Superlux 668B
>>51296806
Monoprice 8323 or Tascam TH-02. If you could go up a little i'd recommend the Takstar 2050's, they're open headphones though.
>>51299133
If that headphone has > 112 dB/Vrms sensitivity, you don't need an amp, but it depends on the source you're using.
>>51299133
Very. There would be no benefit with an amp.
>>51299083
:^)
>>51299166
I'm just going straight over my motherboard (Is that retarded?)
>that friend who carries his HD800s to the audiophile store to audition amps
>>51299193
It's not reatrded at all. I'm driving the Fidelio X2 with my motherboard alone and they sound great, I never have to raise the volume at more than 40%. Btw I've just checked the specs of the Superlux and their sensitivity is 98 db/V. Unless you have a super sound card, I would recommend an amp.
>>51298820
>yeezus
what in the fuck is wrong with you
Are these acceptable?
>>51299083
and other*
>>51299275
I feel like I'm asking to be fucking spoon fed now but I looked on the Install Gentoo wiki and saw this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/FiiO-Olympus-E10-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B005VO7LG6
Is this good?
>>51299356
they exist for a reason
>>51299385
There is a newer version of that called the E10K and it's fine.
>>51299385
I never bought an amp, then I'm not able to give you any advice. Maybe some good anon will come up and help you!
>>51299422
You deserve dubs for your great help today. Thanks man
>>51299356
Yes, but overpriced.
Probably the only high-fidelity gaming headset that's out there.
>>51299440
Okay that's pretty much what I thought, I can get a better deal on them new than I can for the 558 + a modmic and I sort of like the dorky gamer branding so I guess I'll just cop.
>>51299451
For how expensive a gaming headset can be, it's always cheaper than a good headphone + mod mic. I have a CM Storm Sirus 5.1 for gaming and they work well for their price.
I'm about to pull the trigger on a HD600 for gaming, anime, movies and music. In that order.
I just want a good all rounder headphones.
>>51299576
DT880
>>51299655
I heard they are fatiguing after a few hours and that's something that I don't want.
>>51299687
The HD600 gets fatiguing because of the clamp force, thats even worse.
Are DT990s just DT880s with a slight U-shape and wider sound-stage?
>>51299710
I just did some research on that, the HD600 is rated at 2.5N. The DT880 Pro is rated at 3.5N and the DT880 Edition is 2.8N.
Sources:
http://en-us.sennheiser.com/global-downloads/file/4640/HD600_560026_1114_EN.pdf
http://support.beyerdynamic.com/hc/en-us/articles/201451831-What-is-the-difference-between-Pro-and-Edition-models-of-DT-770-DT-880-and-DT-990-
>>51299810
literally everyone knows the hd600 clamp hard
>>51299810
The DT880 Edition will fall of your head if you look down, im sure thats not the case with the HD600
>>51299817
Okay.
>>51299822
I'd prefer a fit that's neither tight or loose.
Well, I'm going with the HD600, thanks for the feedback I suppose.
>>51299810
DT880 BTFO.
>>51299860
Enjoy your highest fidelity full-sized headphones in production.
>>51296182
they are all very close but I found the yamaha to sound slightly less clearer across the board plus the fact that they cost 70 fucking quid and the cable is thin, the built quality is also better on both of the chinese headphones, it's a fucking joke, i'm never buying mainstream iem's again.
>>51294522
>nigger base of the mid high tier cans
Fucking retard
>>51296478
Maybe get a new fucking computer before u drop 300 on decent cans
>>51295950
Why do all ur cans have nigger bass
>>51297169
>using a schiit stack on 1k headphones
At least get a bitfrost
>>51299958
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/314/AMD_FX-Series_FX-6300_vs_Intel_Core_i7_i7-920.html
My old i7-920 is still very good.
>>51300004
Back to Head-Fi.
>>51299860
>>51299898
Alright.
Amazon.com has a HD600 / DT770 80 ohm combo for $400. I went with that. Two great headphones that compliment each other. I couldn't be happier.
Friday please come sooner ;_;
>>51300083
among v shaped headphones, i dont think the dt770 can be beat in that price range.
Are AKG K240s good?
>>51300083
that's an odd but neat deal
>>51300083
If you can get the SHP9500 cancel the HD600
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aipXii-qWiQ
>>51300098
I prefer a neutral frequency response, but there will be situations where closed headphones will be useful.
>>51300451
No thanks.
>>51300601
11/10 sennheiser fanboi
>>51300601
it'll definitely be useful for bringing out HF/LF detail normally hidden away by the sennheiser veil
>>51300632
go back to reddit retard
>>51300671
reddit loves sennheiser
>>51300687
this
>>51300632
see
>>51300671
>>51300637
I don't like the non-replaceable cloth pads and the lack of reputable measurements available. One measurement shows them having too much high frequencies.
My main requirement is something neutral and not fatiguing.
>>51300718
the pads are entirely replaceable
they're also the best velour pads on the market as you'll probably soon come to realize
>>51300745
I am talking about the Philips SHP9500.
I guess you were talking about the DT770.
>>51300671
Who is the retard?
HD600
-Shit build quality (all plastic)
-Shit comfort (high clamp force)
-Shit Cable (double sided headphone cord with shitty proprietary plugs)
-Sound quality worse then a $60 SHP9500 (also HD600 has no bass)
-More expensive than alternatives (DT880/SHP9500/X2)
>>51300774
Nah, SHP9500 have no bass either so it's a bit pointless to say they'd bring out LF compared to the HD600
SHP9500 have a crazy dip in the upper mids and then jump back up to being bright in the treble, for their old $50-70 price tag they're fine but yeah
>>51300776
holy fucking rekt
>>51300776
Why can't I hold all these memes?
>>51300776
>>51300820
Stop samefagging furry.
>>51300830
not him but pretty sure he shit all over the shp9500 and would never rec them
>>51300830
Sorry to disappoint you bruh
>>51300776
>-Shit build quality (all plastic)
Plastic makes it lightweight and comfortable. It's also fully modular.
>-Shit comfort (high clamp force)
It has lower clamping force than the Premium DT880 as the intelligent anon proved earlier in the thread.
>-Shit Cable (double sided headphone cord with shitty proprietary plugs)
At least it has a detachable cable, trash like DT880 doesn't have one. Stay mad.
>-Sound quality worse then a $60 SHP9500 (also HD600 has no bass)
It's still the highest fidelity full-sized dynamic headphone that money can buy at the moment.
>-More expensive than alternatives (DT880/SHP9500/X2)
Because it's better.
>>51300848
>wat.png
cheeky
Sure is beyersremorse in here.
>>51300860
>Plastic makes it lightweight and comfortable. It's also fully modular.
Pic related
>It has lower clamping force than the Premium DT880 as the intelligent anon proved earlier in the thread.
Wrong
>At least it has a detachable cable, trash like DT880 doesn't have one. Stay mad.
Just cut the cable after 10cm and solder a 3.5mm female jack, much better than to deal with sennheiser shits.
>It's still the highest fidelity full-sized dynamic headphone that money can buy at the moment.
... Yea the famous sennheiser veil :)
>Because it's better.
Now its getting ridiculous
>>51300889
>>51300908
>Pic related
see post above yours
>Wrong
2.5 is lower than 2.8, learn to math
>Just cut the cable after 10cm and solder a 3.5mm female jack, much better than to deal with sennheiser shits.
Or I could buy a replacement cable.
>... Yea the famous sennheiser veil :)
Sick meme.
>Now its getting ridiculous
He's right though. HD600 is just completely superior.
thread's over
everyone go home
>>51300960
>dt880 broken
About 56,300 results (0.63 seconds)
>hd600 broken
About 19,500 results (0.45 seconds)
Worldwide google is more accurate.
>>51300962
> HD600
> completely superior
> completely
>>51301008
It is though, HD600 spanks the DT880 in every aspect imaginable.
In fact the cheaper HD558 does the same too.
DT880 is obsolete, inaccurate, poorly built garbage.
>>51300962
Just fuck off dude, you never had both headphones simply by thinking the hd600 has less clamp.
Which phone has the best DAC /hpg/?
I know Samsung with an Exynos so has a Wolfson DAC. Is that the best choice? What about iPhone DACs are they any good these day?
>>51301021
dat beyersremorse
>>51301040
But im using a Fidelio X2 now, but atleast i had the HD600 and DT880 unlike you.
>>51301051
>Fidelio X2
Disgusting.
>>51301101
> says the AM radio sound appreciator
>>51301036
Look at it case by case and not by the convertor chip choice. The Wolfson company and brand no longer exists, and was folded into Cirrus Logic divisions as of 2014.
IPhone circuits have usually been nice in the past, but this time the 6S has poor EMI rejection; it is susceptible to CPU/RF noise. They usually make use of Cirrus convertors.
Galaxy stuff has generally been top notch for the last few years.
![1446066934348[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/bkGj4Xq.jpg "1446066934348[1].jpg")
/g/ help me decide between the Piston 2's, Piston 3's and the Soundmagic E10's
Has ANYONE on here tried Audio-Technica's R70x?
How do they compare to the HD600 in terms of brightness?
>>51301378
It's more like a HD650.
>hd 600
>neutral
>>51301708
So they're probably even less bright than the HD600? Ew.
>>51301746
What are objectively more neutral phones in the same price range?
>>51301849
I suggest the reader have a look at the Sennheiser HD 600 measurements along side the HE400S as a reference point.
Raw frequency response plots show a gently rising response from 300Hz to 2kHz, and then a 12dB peak at 3.5kHz with subsequent roll-off to baseline level at 10kHz falling somewhat thereafter. This is very close to the Harman target response and the mid-range coherence I heard is likely a result of this profile. The HD 600, by comparison, shows the raw response actually descending between 300Hz and 1kHz—I think this may account for the "Sennheiser veil" so often mentioned early in the lifetime of the HD 600/650.
Are any of you SR-007 users out there now? What do you think of the midrange, specifically near 1-2kHz.
>>51301317
soundmagic e10: I went with those, no regret
why? no pistons available at that time in amazon, i've read that you cand easily get fakes on other sites,
![1447279650873[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IBJXYxB.jpg "1447279650873[1].jpg")
>>51301993
Pistons are on Amazon here so no real worries about them being fake but there is quite a price difference between the E10's and the Pistons. £16 for the Pistons and £30 for the E10's. I'm willing to pay it really if they're better but I just don't know
Budget
Around $150 but i can move it to around $180
Location
USA
Source
PC, mainly for playing vidya and listening to music and watching movies videos and shit
Preferred type of headphone
Open or closed
Full sized
Comfort level
Comfortable enough to be used up like 1-2
hours but sometimes more.
Listen to a variety of music but i just want this to be good for playing cs and other games really
>>51302080
get the piston 3 and stop posting randumb pics
first pic implies you're angry about something? second pic you're smug for some reason?
>>51301941
Midrange is fantastic, but that's par for the course with just about any stats. There's a 3-4db dip around 850hz on a normal amp. I didn't hear it when I jacked it into a KGSSHV. Don't know if that's the extra power or the circuit design but the upper midrange and treble sounds more lambda like on a solid state mafia model. It lost a lot of that kind of planar darker tone. Probably grating as hell on already bright designs. Otherwise, the bass is just a bit better but nothing to write home about.
This was the old EQ I had for it. Don't copy the bass shelf compensation though unless you have a Mk I or a port-modded Mk II. I did some sweeps with my current amp and just decided to leave the EQ out for now, even though that reduces the bass a bit.
>>51302094 i also forgot to mention i'm fine with open but closed some closed options would be nice too
i know that for rule headset are shit but this looks decent also portable enough for Vita/phone
70 buscks, opinions?
Not really a headphone but a headset. Still, do anyone have any experience with Moto Hint 2 gen?
I have discretized Tyll's FR plots and now I have this huge chunk of data. My intention is to create EQ presets that allow me to make my Fidelio X2 sound roughly like various IEMs for evaluation purposes (I have to decide what to buy).
Does it make sense to set four hundreds frequencies in a parametric EQ or something less is more than enough?
Also, what parametric EQ can I use? Possibly it should be able to read the settings from a text file in case I had to change some hundreds frequencies.
>>51302199
Just do it in APO. That will store as many presets as you want because it stores them as separate text files.
>>51302199
How did you do that?
>>51302246
file name says everything.
>>51302222
All right, thank you based quads.
>>51302246
With Tyll's FR plots it was a bit complex:
>open Tyll's pdf
>zoom as much as possible on the FR plot
>take a snapshot
>save it
>use it in this awesome tool http://arohatgi.info/WebPlotDigitizer/
>throw them into LibreCalc
>change dots into commas to make that shitty program recognise them as numbers
Now I have to figure out the best way to couple coordinates from two different sets in a way that the distance between the frequencies is minimized (the discretization is not homogeneous), because I don't really want to use matlab.
>>51301878
HE-400S is dogshit.
>>51296264
>>51301746
There is no fullsized headphone that measures more neutral than that on seeko.
>>51302168
its not sturdy like it looks
if you want something portable get IEMs
Question here, how would I know if an amp is good for a certain headphone? For example would you use the same amp for 2 different headphone that benefit from an amp?
>>51302774
god this amp synergy meme is getting out of hand
>>51302878
The question was serious
>>51302892
so was the response
>>51302122
No issue with 1-2 kHz, even with swept sine? Although, if you like it as is, maybe it's not worth pursuing.
>>51302898
zzzzz
>>51302919
You sound like you're looking at Tyll's measurements, but I didn't hear a problem there myself. It was a similar dip but lower. But STAX changes around their diaphragms and stuff throughout production so it doesn't always mean much.
>get new headphones
>no music to listen to
>>51303041
just listen to shitty anime music like every other fuck in here too incompetent to find good music
>>51303056
It really depends on the anime ost you are listening to
>>51303076
"no"
>>51303088
Music is a subjective subject
>>51303109
>weebshit
>music
pick one
>>51303171
both
>>51303192
your reading comprehension is about as good as your taste in music
>>51303200
I take that as a complement
>>51303200
Thanks and good night anon
>>51296551
id build a listening room with state of the art equipment for that money. in other words a high end speaker setup.
>>51299576
>I just want a good all rounder headphones.
well that's it senpai. get em.
they clamp yes but i never felt like it was an issue. the earpads surround my ears and they are very nicely padded.
>>51299787
they have a considerable rise in bass around 100Hz as well as kind of a treble shelf as opposed to the spike on the dt 880s. they have more bass and treble. no idea about the difference in headstage as i like to call it. probably minimal difference there.
>>51300004
price matters how? did you seriously recommend a dac for better performance?
>>51301771
>probably
they are and you can see it easily from measurements. they have a lot of bass.
i got keked and didnt win. was hoping to get it for $851
>>51303545
why don't you just get dt880s for $150
>>51303002
>looking at Tyll's measurements
Actually, I was looking elsewhere, a brief discussion on the peculiarities of the 007 in a research publication. The notch even shows up on CSDs as an anti-resonance.
I don't think it is a diaphragm issue, but a mechanical(frame) issue. That doesn't seem typical behavior of a driver, even with an open backed electrostatic. But maybe I shouldn't push this idea further.
>>51303088
someone hasnt heard cowboy bebop ost
>>51303602
fuck off you retarded weeaboo
>>51303584
The frame is slightly different between the early Mk I and the late Mk I as well as the Mk II. Maybe that was it? There are also old discussions about the original Mk I screen not being acoustically transparent.
There's plenty of great weeb music, but only listening to anime OSTs makes you an ultimate pleb.
Any decent traditional earphones ie non in-ear?
>skint edition
>>51302199 here.
I'm very happy to announce that I've been able to generate the "transformative" equalizations for my Fidelio X2. They're based on 596 frequencies points. I know I cannot replicate things like impulse response, cumulative spectral decay, and shit like that, but I guess that frequency response should be enough to have a rough idea on how a certain headphone will sound.
This procedure can be adapted to any headphone and it's possible to create a "transformative" equalization of any pair of headphones, as long as they've been measured by InnerFidelity.
I'd be grateful if anyone of you anons could help me out checking whether my assumptions are correct or not; in other words if you have two headphones that have been both measured by Tyll, I can create a "transformative" equalization, and you should just check if with that applied one headphone sounds -roughly- like the other one.
>>51303971
doesn't that make it subject to tyll's shitty compensation though?
ideally you would generate the equalizations based on raw measurements and have a second filter/option for applying compensation curves for them to align with, no?
>>51303699
Here's a snippet from the article:
>The STAX [SR-007 MK II] may have a flat curve as its design target, but it has an unfortunate dip at 1.3-1.4 kHz. With its symmetric presence on both the left and right side the dip could be related to vibration travelling across the stiff headband to cancel out part of the acoustic response
They wouldn't say something like SZ2 or SZ3, and the graph cuts off too high to investigate the port details. In any case, dip still shows up on Tyll's SZ3 and Purrin's CSD, and late SZ1 from Tyll.
The frequency is rather low for screen effects to work like that. 007 is big, but I don't think it is large enough for reflected delay in the midrange. I'm not too comfy with acoustics, so I am quite ready to be proven wrong.
>>51302199
>>51303971
Holy shit. I think if you just asked him for the transfer function, he would have given it to you.
>>51304076
No. Mathematically it gets ruled out basically what I did was taking the FR curve of the headphone I have, and subtracting it to the FR curve of the "target" headphone. In this way, everything Tyll does is ruled out, as long as he does the same thing to both frequency responses.
>>51304076
>tyll's shitty compensation though
A single peaking filter centered at 1kHz corrects most of the difference.
The point is to cancel the differences between other headphones, so that doesn't apply.
>>51303971
Eh, you probably have most of the data needed for CSD and IR generation. It's not like we're trying to do a perfect impulse inverse.
Actually, if you have the IR right with sufficient time, you have everything with a few Fourier operations (CSD, square wave, phase, magnitude response).
>>51304228
I'm more than happy with what I've accomplished. After all, I've done all this shit just to "preview" a bunch of IEMs to help me pick the one to buy.
Still, I'd like to see if what I've done *actually* works in the way I intended it, which is why I need someone here to tell me "I've got this and that headphone", wait for my EQ setting, and then try it and see if with that applied one headphone roughly sounds like the other.
>>51304309
The bits of high-frequency 'noise' you get with over-ear headphones makes precision like that seem questionable.
Canal resonance need to be considered with IEM adjustments. At least there's only one peak to move around. I sent him some of IEMs to measure, and I don't place the canal peak in my ear at the same spots because I wear them with slightly different depths with a different sleeve. Looks about right based on my own subjective impressions of re400 and SE215, give or take sleeves and variation.
I should send him more crap to plot.
>>51304084
If that headband stuff is true, then wouldn't some mechanical damping of the frame solve that?
So apparently quoting Hitler on your paper is controversial and should be avoided unless you don't have a choice...
Anyway, how are you doing tonight /hpg/?
>>51304545
If that was the case, yes.
Or it could just be both cups themselves over multiple revisions, I'm not intimately familiar with 007. It looks to be in the same frequency, maybe not.
>>51304423
The precision I adopted was due to the fact it simplified this process A LOT. As I already said, I perfectly know this kind of operation cannot produce a precise result, and -as I already said- I'm more than happy with a rough estimate of what the target headphone might roughly sound.
As far as I'm concerned, I don't need an exact measure of the headphone in your possession, but as long as the same model has been measured, it should be more than enough for this kind of operation.
For instance, if you have both the RE-400 and the SE215, try applying these EQ and see if they actually make the RE-400 sound like the SE215 and vice versa:
http://pastebin.com/MGJLdQKR
http://pastebin.com/VMqck12k
>>51304757
There's problem with me doing that, and that is that I don't have the SE215 anymore.
Tried something like that with ER-4 and RE-272 and they sounded close, so the idea is good. I just want to remind you of all the things that can wrong with that idea, of which there are many.
>>51304987
Many thank anon. I really appreciated your help.
>>51295539
Honestly if the idea of bluetooth IEMs doesn't gross you out then whatever you get will sound fine to you,
>>51304595
colleges are chock full of sjw liberals so im not surprised they consider that 'contreversial'
>>51304595
some guys doing a presentation for our their paper research said their results/data conflicted with x (professor at the university) and they got quite the mouthful
it's bullshit
can someone recommend me a cheap mp3/flac player? how is the sansa clip jam?
