I literally can't stop thinking about the F-35. It's the most interesting plane and piece of technology ever made. It can do so much so well. The more I learn about the F-35, the more impressed I become. It astounds me that they were actually able to construct a plane this advanced in 2015.
It's like it came out of portal from the future.
>>51288381
It still flys on jet fuel, so its not advanced in any way.
>>51288381
nice blog. But seriously, it has the potential to become the biggest shitbird we've ever fielded.
>>51288381
Too bad the chinese have the blueprints, made their own copy and are throwing all their resources into missiles to counter it.
Air Force fag here
It's literally the biggest clusterfuck of a plane ever produced, and its virtually useless against an actual enemy due to what >>51288509 mentioned. Sure we can use it against sandniggers but we can use drones for that.
This thing is pointless and wasted money. Something better could've been developed during all that time
>>51288509
chinese military strategy is so funny
>yes goy build your fancy warships and airplanes
>good goy put the blueprints on unsecured networks so we can develop missiles to blow them out of the sky/water
how fucking dumb are the people in our military, they shouldn't put this info on computers connected to a network
They're expensive as fuck though, like 100+ million dollars per unit. The F/A-18 Hornet is a more economical fighter jet (~30 million dollars).
The targeting systems and onboard computer is pretty goat though.
The Navy hasn't had a deep strike mission plane since like the end of WWII as no other country that they've been at war with has had a carrier or air force capable of giving them a run for their money since the Japanese.
Now all they have are short strike light aircraft that are jack of all trades, cheaper to run, but master of none.
They need to bring back some deep strike capable aircraft before the chinese get good enough missile systems to swat the F35s
>>51288509
too bad the shit viewed from that clone of the plane show it is nowhere near the capability of the real thing
>these replies
This triggers /k/
>>51288620
This nigga right here knows his shit.
Posting the sexiest airplane ever built.
Isn't this just a poor man's version of the F-22?
>>51288679
Pic related close second.
>>51288381
I'd rather have the equivalent money in economically built fucking hot air zepplin drones or propeller planes than F-35, provided they can field the same air-to-air missiles and sensors (at least as swarm).
Not that jet planes aren't fun - but in that regard, almost every military jet plane seems fun.
Why is Lockheed so fucking based? Seriously, look at this masterpiece.
>>51288606
There are spies, and traitors who sold blueprints too you know.
But yeah, the chinese are on to something, missiles are cheaper than planes, require no salary, require no training, and you can just build more, when you use them up.
Pilots on the other hand, takes years and millions of dollars to train and equip, they need salaries, food, they also retire, and die when hit by missiles and other things.
>>51288641
It doesn't need to be anywhere capable, it just needs to get up into the sky, and launch missiles that are good enough to hit the F-35.
Heck it doesn't even need to hit the F-35 reliably, the knockoffs are cheap enough and chinese pilots are a dime a dozen, they only need to get a 10:3 ratio before it becomes unfeasible for the US Navy to take them head on, or at least think twice before engagements. This is even before you take the hypersonic "carrier killer" missiles and land to air anti-air systems that they are developing and fielding specifically for the F-35s.
Their whole strategy is based off of flooding the airspace with so much shit to deny the enemy of their air superiority, something the US has always enjoyed since WWII.
>>51288381
Except it doesn't work right, and costs too much.
>>51288679
>>51288701
Useless if you don't have air superiority, they a balling when the enemy doesn't have anything to shoot them down with though.
>>51288719
Too bad the russians were capable of intercepting it near the end of the cold war.
>>51288710
And what are you going to do when stealth jet fighters capable of almost mach 2.0 speeds scream past your radars and obliterate your slow targets?
>>51288737
>Useless if you don't have air superiority, they a balling when the enemy doesn't have anything to shoot them down with though.
This applies to pretty much all planes though. I'm a sucker for bomber planes though.
>>51288381
The F-35 is a fucking clusterfuck. It does a lot of things but it does NONE of them well.
In fact they're having problems getting the damn thing to even work.
>>51288381
Isn't the thing plagued by issues?
>>51288737
Still, the blackbird is an aesthetic and engineering mastepiece. I believe it got Mach 3.1+ while being air-breathing.
>>51288381
Literally a Raptor with the wing tips shaved
>>51288627
Uh... You heard about the Vietnam War? Or the Korean War? You know, those two huge wars with Russian and American planes fighting each other?
>>51288688
F-22 is almost 10 tons heavier.
>>51288750
Either drop them with missiles (sensor coverage becomes so much better if you have 20+ times the sensors in the air, eh), or just ignore and destroy 20 times as much shit with equal missiles on the other side.
Then do it two - ten times more while the F-35 probably sits around in maintenance.
>>51288720
How are they Chinese on to something when SAMs have been around for decades?
>>51288381
For the cost of the F-35 program so far, we could have built a second International Space Station, boosted it to lunar orbit, and then sent up a third ISS for kicks.
Instead we have a plane that still can't be deployed. Once it's done, it will replace several existing programs, but do their job poorly and more expensively. Shit is just a massive welfare program for LockMart.
>>51288862
their missiles are unique, they have a missile for everything
Friendly reminder that the F35 is built for niche roles and export, while the F22 is for actual air superiority
>>51288754
Well in WWII they had air parity in the form of mixing fighter escorts, dedicated bombers, and fighter bombers.
>>51288774
Still blows my mind how they had to have gaps in the fuel tank so it was leaking fuel until it heated up, went super sonic and everything expanded enough to seal the gaps.
>>51288795
Russians didn't field enough Migs in both of those wars, the F-8 crusader and the F4 phantoms were arguably superior and out numbered the fielded Migs for the US to enjoy a pretty good edge. SAM batteries on the other hand...
>>51288862
Yeah, but no country has fielded missiles specifically designed to counter your planes that were developed with your blueprints mixed with hypersonic "carrier killer" missiles and clones of your own planes.
>>51288950
Not only fuel, the whole fuselage was barely fitting on the ground.
This is a recent chinese animated promo video, displaying their hardware and battle plans to sink US carriers, and storm a US base in Japan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULtzgE9mJD8
Notice how they plan to shoot down F35s and entire carrier battle groups with ease.
>>51288950
While I agree that Chinese missles are advance and a serous threat, its just evolutionary technology, not revolutionary. The problem with missles is that they require ground control, and therefore only good for defense. The usage of these missles is also why NATO has put emphasis on improving CIWS technology.
>>51288381
The F-35 project is billions over budget and allied countries like Canada who were ready to buy up an entire fleet are thinking of bailing on it since current aircraft do many things better for much cheaper.
It also has issues in harsh weather be it snow or sand, again something that many available aircraft can fight through, and its main purpose for them is to patrol the arctic.
>>51289099
You realise that missiles are usually self-guided, right? That's why they're missiles and not fucking rockets.
>>51289099
One of the reasons china's been launching rockets into space is for their own satellites and to shoot down american ones, as evident from their missile testing blowing up a satellite a few years ago.
There is also a problem with their supposedly smart carrier killer missiles which are offensive missiles. The Dongfen 21D with a range of 1000miles and an orbital drop at up to 10 times the speed of sound.
It's supposedly cheap to make and china will be shitting these out the ass.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/98309/20151023/chinas-hypersonic-dongfeng-21d-ballistic-missile-is-an-aircraft-carrier-killer.htm
>>51289176
Carriers are only useful for asymmetric warfare. Rockets and nuclear weapons have been around since WWII, there's no way a giant slow moving steel target will be able to approach a capable enemy without being sunk.
So is our Eurofighter superior or what?
>>51289243
Good luck providing air support for ground troops with rockets and nuclear weapons
>>51288679
Agreed. This beast is a juggernaut in the field
>>51289268
britbongistan pls
Seriously though most likely, f-35s have issues. However you don't have jack shit to compete with our f-22 raptors though.
>F-35
>most interesting plane ever
NO
![J-10a_zhas[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/IFz9krY.jpg "J-10a_zhas[1].png")
>>51289099
Only good for defense? The DF-26D Guam Killer missile is hypersonic with a 1800~2500mile range and is nuclear capable. 1 button, good by Guam bases.
They even have a DF-31 and DF-41 in the works with up to 10 MIRV warheads
>>51289243
Carriers are a must for projection of power and troops, what they need is deep strike aircraft to maintain an adequate distance, something the Navy is desperately lacking while it continues to sink money into the F35
>>51289268
The typhoons? the Chinese copied that years ago with the J-10 with the anti-air missiles to match.
>>51289268
Nah it's just as shit as the F-35, it just doesn't cost $100 million a piece
patachu pls go to bed it's late there
>>51288679
More like pure horror, this thing is scary AF. That fucker is literally built around an autocannon. Like fuck man, the big ass missiles are scary enough, now you have wine bottle sized bullets fucking annihilating your tanks and turning troops into fucking swiss cheese.
>>51289170
I phrased it poorly, by ground control I meant territory. You are limited by your army, and are limited to defense of area. Front line protection is more limited as missles system is easier engaged by opposing army. Chinese missles very good but it isn't an offensive weapon.
>>51289176
This is real weapon. Something needs to counter this. I hope china is bluffing, but since they have space program, I would believe it to be true. What do they do for guiding it though though? I imagine that's it major problem, actually finding target.
>>51288381
lockheed shill spotted.
>>51289371
>I phrased it poorly, by ground control I meant territory. You are limited by your army, and are limited to defense of area. Front line protection is more limited as missles system is easier engaged by opposing army. Chinese missles very good but it isn't an offensive weapon.
>what are planes
>what are missile cruisers
>>51289316
I was talking about their SAMs for specific US aircraft, obviously a nuclear carrying platform has a long range, it would be pointless otherwise.
Fucking shit, where's that /k/ F-35 thread bingo image? Pretty sure half the boxes would be filled in from the retards in this thread.
>>51289371
The DF-21s care self guided, launched from bases or mobile truck launchers, someone, or some thing be it satellites or that chinese sub that was recently stalking the US carrier Ronald Reagan near Japan 5 days ago.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/04/politics/chinese-submarine-u-s-aircraft-carrier-japan/
>>51289396
The chinese are going apeshit with missiles for everything.
>>51289387
Arnt we agreeing? I was saying that SAM is limited and not replacement for developing equal level planes.
>>51289436
I meant someone or something paints a target and away the missiles go.
>he thinks technology wins wars
(fifth-gen) F-35 unit cost: ~$100 million
(fourth-gen) F-4 Phantom II unit cost: ~$2.5million
who would win in a fight: one F-35 or forty F-4s?
>>51289513
What about inflation?
>>51289513
Nice strwaman there Lockshill
>>51289513
one f-35 it has the better tech :^)
>>51289365
>wine bottle sized bullets fucking annihilating your tanks
fun fact they are shit for anti-tank warfare, the bullet's can penetrate the armor from the sides, front, or top
i'd post proofs but it's on my flashdrive somewhere, but basically that autocannon can penetrate old soviet tanks from the rear only, it's a meme plane in the modern era
>>51289572
>the bullet's can penetrate the armor from the sides, front, or top
can't*, typo pham
>>51289316
>The typhoons? the Chinese copied that years ago with the J-10 with the anti-air missiles to match.
It uses the same layout but it's not a Eurofighter copy. The Eurofighter is a twin engine aircraft, the J10 is not.
>>51289471
It's hard to paint targets in the ocean was my point. It's huge. This is still very powerful weapon, and US knows it.
>>51289316
>all these people talking about china stealing blueprints
>that piece of shit is what they make from it
>mfw they stole the delta wing F16 failure prints from the 90s
it's good for crashing into our surveillance planes i guess
![a-j-31-stealth-fighter-performs-at-the-airshow[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TNmRMxS.jpg "a-j-31-stealth-fighter-performs-at-the-airshow[1].jpg")
>>51289469
You need to understand China's strategy, why would they need to develop equal planes when they can copy your planes and cut corners so that it's just barely good enough.
They then proceed to build missiles to counter your assets, hypersonic missiles to kill your carriers, long range missiles to strike your bases, and then slowly flood your airspace with copies of your planes?
They never were interested in equal planes, they only need things that are barely good enough, and then churn out mass amounts of it to overwhelm you.
>>51289585
Chinese cut corners, they still advertise it as a Eurofighter killer, doesn't matter if the Eurofighter is technically still superior, the chinese will just throw a metric fuck ton of the copies at them.
They are already testing the J-20 and the J-31 which is a stealth twin-engine F-22 copy, they even plan to export the J-31, calling it the F-60.
Pic related, the J-31
>>51289632
Not really, a chinese sub was able to stay on the tail of the US carrier Ronald Reagan off of Japan for at least half a day, that's long enough to paint it as a target.
>>51289572
>>51289582
Anon I find it very hard to believe depleted uranium 30 mm autocannon rounds won't go through a tank especially from a gun that can shoot over 60 of them a second.
What kind of tank armor resists depleted uranium 30 mm rounds?
>>51289795
tanks like the M1A2 SEP V2, in friendly fire incidents, the M829A3 couldnt penetrate the frontal arc.
>>51289795
>30 mm
30mm isn't shit in the world of tanks. and i don't mean the videogame i mean just tanks in general, 30mm is babby tier when tanks all carry 120mm cannons, like I said the gun was good against T55's (which it was designed to kill) but even shit like T62-T72 are pretty much immune unless the pilot gets a god tier shot off on the rear
tanks like T80 and T90 are just out of the question
>>51289795
it's literally in the manual m8, here's the proofs
>>51289868
more pics
like i said its only vulnerable from the rear, and this is an old-ass tank
>>51289880
here's the sides
>>51289820
"M1A2: depleted uranium mesh-reinforced composite armor" - wiki
Well fuck, didn't expect depleted uranium to be used in tank armor. Doubt sand niggers will ever be able to afford even 1 of these tanks though.
However assuming the A10 pilot got a tight grouping of the 30 mm rounds and hit the tanks wheels/track, would it become disabled at least from moving?
>>51289887
end page
>However assuming the A10 pilot got a tight grouping of the 30 mm rounds and hit the tanks wheels/track, would it become disabled at least from moving?
see >>51289868 it doesn't really do much to the tracks
>>51289893
No, It won't be able to penetrate anything short of a direct hit on the hatch, the 30mm gun isn't a tank killer, it could possibly disable a track, but its ineffective against anything short of a thinly armored IFV. The main tank killer on the A-10 is the Maverick, not the main gun.
>>51288381
The F-35 is a piece of shit.
>>51288620
>targeting systems and onboard computer
VTOAL
>>51288750
Use the same system australia uses which detects all aircraft without fail.
With the most recent unveiling of chinese hardware, it's becoming apparent that they are closing the gap between them and the US in air power, using missiles to cover what they can't.
With their carriers in full production, it's only a matter of time before they start running their 3~4 carrier fleet filled with copies of F-35/F-22
That's half the size of the US carrier fleet in a handful of years time. The US has 9 carriers currently as the 10th one is still being built, with 2 or 3 scheduled to go into maintenance.
They need 6th generation fighters and better carrier protection ASAP to counter the new missile and copycat fighter threats.
Then there is the presidential candidate BERN calling for massive cuts to military budgets with the slogan "Feel the BERN", yeah, the US military will really Feel the BURN if things go ugly.
>>51289795
Modern MBTs like the M1A1 Abrams feature armor that are resistant to 90~100mm RHAe rounds, you would need a prolonged burst to sufficiently damage one.
The GAU-8 cannon is limited to 1and 2 second bursts to prevent overheating and only carries 1174 arounds at the configured fixed fire rate of 3900 RPM it's 65rnds per second, which means 18 1 second bursts or 9 2 second bursts and it's out of ammo, I highly doubt that the A-10 is going to take out 9 tanks on it's cannons alone, not to mention the linger time for shot placements means it's susceptible to MANPADs and other mobile AA defenses.
It does carry 10 Maverick missiles, so it could get 10 tanks on a good day, but the chinese have hundreds of tanks.
>>51288381
I can't believe literal propaganda is still a thing
>>51288917
you said it, baby.
man, yeah
>>51289908
>No, It won't be able to penetrate anything short of a direct hit on the hatch, the 30mm gun isn't a tank killer, it could possibly disable a track, but its ineffective against anything short of a thinly armored IFV. The main tank killer on the A-10 is the Maverick, not the main gun.
I see, wow that's amazing, I guess it would be much smarter to use missiles on tanks since you can't always know if you are shooting them from behind. Dam, thanks for the info, really interesting stuff here. I thought 30mm depleted uranium rounds were the shit. I guess everything has its limits.
>>51289982
>I thought 30mm depleted uranium rounds were the shit
Don't be sad because 120mm depleted uranium rounds are the shit
>>51289572
Don't need to penetrate to destroy a tank.
Destroy everything attached to the outside and fuck up the crew inside from sheer noise and your tank is essentially worthless.
>>51288381
It's a cool plane.... but simply overwhelming the Chinks with an unholy biological weapons barrage would be a better idea. They die in droves from the Flu, I think it's time to introduce something nastier into China.
>>51289982
They were the shit back in the late 60s/early 70s, it's just that technology marches on
>>51290009
> fuck up the crew inside from sheer noise
tank crewmen are completely deaf after their first day
>>51290009
the field manual disagrees with this just saying pham i think the air force knows better
To bad they shutdown the project for the f35. Another 50 billion dollars wasted
>>51289705
Their are two problems with basing your planes off the enemy design, it allows for easier counters, and creates lag under critical breakthroughs. I know China's plan is to use numbers, its to good not to use, but the US and Europe are capable of making SAMs of their own, and until Chinese aircraft carriers and a capable navy emerge, they can't do anything beyond local goals. Using long range missles also isn't a new strategy, it was literally what the cold war was all about.
The Chinese sub following the Ronald Reagan doesn't count, as the carrier wasn't under cover. More importantly, we know about it because the sub was detected by the ship. In combat, the carrier would be hidden, and if it detected the sub, it would jam it to prevent painting. The whole incident is as pointless as US ships in south china sea, its just governments beating their chests.
>>51289943
>Then there is the presidential candidate BERN calling for massive cuts to military budgets with the slogan "Feel the BERN", yeah, the US military will really Feel the BURN if things go ugly.
Holy shit, I don't want that dipshit in office. But I also don't want that kekservative moron trump either. Fuck. Wat do?
>>51289982
30mm depleted uranium rounds are the shit, it's just that we're comparing them to fucking 75ton modern tanks with depleted uranium armor that explodes when you touch it.
What the A-10 excels at is close air support in a physiological role.
Doesn't matter if it can't destroy a tank, when the enemy hears the BRRRRRRT they shit themselves and when the allies see the ground they pointed at getting an ungodly firestorm rained down upon them, they tend to get hype.
That plus the A-10 can still easily disable older tanks like many countries are still using.
>>51290051
>they can't do anything beyond local goals
That's been the Chinese strategy for thousands of years though. China gives a fuck about china and maybe a couple things close to their borders. they don't give a shit about playing world police
>>51290002
>Don't be sad because 120mm depleted uranium rounds are the shit
A10 with 120mm depleted uranium autocannon when?
>>51290026
Can you imagine sitting inside a metal contained being hit by a gau-8?
We're not worrying about your (now bleeding) ears, i'm talking the possibility of breathing at the wrong time and having your lungs get fucked
>>51290032
The field manual can disagree all it wants, if the barrel gets hit by a 30mm no commander will use it.
That tank is now out of the battle.
Nevermind all the radio equipment, spare fuel, etc etc.
>>51290082
>hitting the barrel
you have a higher chance of getting a gf than hitting the barrel of a tank in an A10
>>51290057
>30mm depleted uranium rounds are the shit, it's just that we're comparing them to fucking 75ton modern tanks with depleted uranium armor that explodes when you touch it.
lolwut? So the armor explodes when the 30mm round strikes it?
Also do the chinese have such tanks?
>>51290070
Yeah, but the fact that both sides are beating their chests scares me for the next cold war.
>>51290124
>So the armor explodes when the 30mm round strikes it?
yes actually https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUVnNk0aJBE
![5717547+_491187e6a30cd2433c0120d537f1f2d4[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nhEJWAI.jpg "5717547+_491187e6a30cd2433c0120d537f1f2d4[1].jpg")
>>51289982
There is a reason the A-10 is now relegated to close ground troop support in areas with good air superiority.
Nothing to shoot them down, and the 30mm rnds BRRRRTTT is still great against infantry, mobile artillery and other thinly armored convoys and shit, it also instills fear into the enemy and raises ally morale.
>>51290009
>>51290082
Until a quick fix and it's back into the battle.
Chinese tank crews are a penny a dozen, obliterating the tank is.
There are stories of asian countries taking M60s that took a penetration but didn't blow up, wielding sheet metal over the hole and sending it back into active service.
Sure, no western commander/crew would use a damaged tank, but we're talking about the chinese, who make exploding shit and have no respect for human rights.
>>51290124
The Type 99 has frontal protection comparable to the Russian T90A and western tanks using spaced mudular armor and composite armor, slated to be replaced by the VT-4/MBT-3000.
>>51290051
It's still scary that they were able to venture out to Japan and get so close to a US carrier in a single sub though. You never know, surprise unannounced attacks might still be a thing.
>>51290113
Except you're throwing a fuckton of rounds downrange and there's a very good chance one of them would've hit the barrel.
Ask yourself this, nigger. If you're in even a fully kitted M1A2 and you get hit by a double burst from an A-10, will you be happy to just keep rolling?
Or will the possible bent barrel and destroyed communications, along with bleeding ears dampen your spirits?
>>51290198
>there's a very good chance one of them would've hit the barrel.
yeah that's the thing it's not a good chance at all
ask yourself this: the air force and the A10 manual literally states that trying to shoot the barrel is a fucking retarded strategy so why are you still talking about it
>If you're in even a fully kitted M1A2 and you get hit by a double burst from an A-10, will you be happy to just keep rolling?
yeah probably
>bleeding ears
it sounds like hail on a windshield
>>51290198
Sure in a western army it might dampen your spirits, but china has demonstrated in the Korean war that it gives no shits and will happily send waves of soldiers to their deaths with only a rifle, if a crew is incapacitated, they dump in a new one and the tank rolls on.
They've demonstrated that they will take live artillery shells and fucking fire then from a dirt mound.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA84atorJ2I
>>51290232
You can't try to shoot shit with an A-10, faggot.
You're 1km out and shooting at a big-ass tank, you're not aiming for the 1 square inch weak spot, your bullets are shitting all over the thing/
>>51290297
What the actual fuck, China
What's so great about the F-35?
>>51290143
>using bombs to fight bombs
That is so fucking retarded I'm actually impressed it works
>>51290383
They have demonstrated that they will stop at nothing, with no safety regards to their troops.
Which western army will have their infantry fire live artillery shells with nothing but their bare hands, a few pieces of wire and a trigger?
Think of the ambushes where they have a dozen of these guys firing out of nowhere at your allies, no guns, no tanks, just a few dirt mounds.
That's a type 63 107mm shell they fire in that video.
I knew I saved this for some reason.
>>51290361
>You're 1km out and shooting at a big-ass tank
exactly the reason you aren't hitting the barrel
>>51290454
Well the point is that a big giant explosive won't do much if the energy goes everywhere. You gotta shape it in a way that will direct it forward. Reactive Armor disrupts that direction.
>>51289026
>666 on carrier
spoopy as fuck.
Watch how most of the rounds don't actually land on the target they are shooting. now think about armored targets that can resist the 30mm cannon moving at speed and actively dodging your shots, you ain't hitting no barrel.
Only the missiles are effective against tanks on the A10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lD5QqsVofg
remember, /g/, every dollar spent developing and manufacturing useless fighter jets is a dollar not spent genetically engineering cat girls for domestic ownership
>>51288424
I heard that stuff can melt steel, does that not scream future to you?
>>51291035
If jet fuel melts steel, then how does an airplane fly on it?
Checkmate Bush
>>51290976
Still need them fighter jets to keep china from eating your catgirls.
>>51288381
pic related.
chinks stole F-35A blueprints. I would not be surprised if they also stole blueprints of Mitsubishi ATD-X program and incorporated it in their J-31 fighter.
Consider the F35 deprecated
>>51289176
>http://www.techtimes.com/articles/98309/20151023/chinas-hypersonic-dongfeng-21d-ballistic-missile-is-an-aircraft-carrier-killer.htm
Navy's railgun will render that moot.
>>51291107
Even the logo looks like a ripoff of something american
>>51291107
Didn't they buy it from some white traitor?
>>51288381
This plane is the biggest basket of problems ever, probably.
>>51291166
The F-35 is amazing.
>>51291142
>Didn't they buy it from some white traitor?
nope
they got hacked
>Last week, Der Spiegel published a new tranche of documents provided to the German weekly magazine by the former U.S. National Security Agency contractor, Edward Snowden. The documents are the first public confirmation that Chinese hackers have been able to extrapolate top secret data on the F-35 Lightning II joint strike fighter jet. According to sources, the data breach already took place in 2007 at the prime subcontractor Lockheed Martin.
thediplomat.com/2015/01/new-snowden-documents-reveal-chinese-behind-f-35-hack/
>>51288381
It doesnt exist, atleast in the form you know it, and everything you read about its specifications is propaganda.
