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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
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No news.
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/TdZByAXS
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
>i5 2.6
>4gb ram
>500 gb hdd
>x230t
>used-good condition, minimal wear
$300
>4gb Samsung ram
$25
>128gb Samsung sata 3 msata ssd
$50
I was going for under $400 since shipping is a bitch and I ended up paying closer to $500
Did I do [spoiler] ok [/spoiler]?
>>51209559
>Samsung
>Samsung
nah, would not trust samsung even if my life depends on it
>>51209449
i still use a 400 with 6bg of ram i installed. everything else is spec.
no one wants to steal it because it looks like shit. all my friends are impressed because it can open up facebook just as fast as their mac.
>>51209582
I don't trust the gooks either, but it beats taking a no-name chink brand.
>>51209582
There are about 3 good DRAM manufacturers out there today:
Samsung
Hynix
Micron
Shit tier:
Elpida
>t450s
>i5-5200U
>12 GB
>256 GB SSD
>NVIDIA GeForce 940M (1 GB)
>14.0" Full-HD IPS
>1100 € (some student shit reduction)
should I pull the trigger? I planned to spend 1k € max, but this sounds dope
>>51210366
save some money, install the ram and ssd yourself
>>51210378
I can't get a cheaper one with a dedicated gpu, even with less ram and no ssd
>>51210553
sounds like an ok deal
>>51210366
>1100 euros for i5-5200u and 256 gb ssd
>>51210675
surprise surprise things are more expensive in europe
but the 940m t450s is an eu only model
>>51210553
>dedicated gpu
for what purpose?
>>51210707
Budget workstation?
And yes, it's totally possible to do CAD shit on a consumer GPU. Quadros are more expensive as you pay extra for the vendor certification
>>51210697
shit that sucks broski, I found the same model with the same gpu in turkey and it's around 600 euros, I wonder if euro has the same value there as it has here desu
>>51210732
I would buy that shit for 600 € without thinking twice
>>51210718
You could find an older model with a Quadro and upgrade the ram/ssd yourself for less money
not a good deal imo
>>51210755
also lighter + better battery life
having used a mobile workstation i'd do everything not to have one ever again unless i really needed to
>>51210744
I wouldn't mind buying one and selling to you for 700 euros shipping + customs included (sending to EU from here is basically for free almost, turks desperate to export) shit makes me feel bad for you guys man lmao
I throught /tpg/ was only about thinkpads. This is a new world.
Poll:
Do you have your Energy star sticker intact on your lid?
>>51210985
/tpg/ is still mainly focused around ThinkPads but other business laptops are always welcome here.
>>51211061
No stickers on lid or palmrest.
>>51211061
y, also still have the i5 vPro on palmrest and win 10 on the bottom.
What should I do with the express card slot?
>>51211764
extra USB 3.0 ports
I need to buy company laptops. They've been buying cheap consumer Acer laptops with Home licenses. I'm currently looking at the T540p. Would this be a good durable business laptop? Any other suggestions? Remember this is for business not for ThinkPad enthusiasts. They don't really care about the keyboard.
OK /g/, you successfully trolled me into buying a T420.
Now how do I get used to the clit mouse?
That shit is harder than I expected.
Should I customize it to respond to my natural movement?
Or should I practice on default settings?
Also how good does it get?
Will it become as easy as using a a trackpad?
>>51212682
>he fell for the trackpoint meme
Is it worth getting a X220 with an i7-2640M over one with an i5-2520M?
Is the much of a performance difference?
>>51211990
If it's a business, make fucking SURE you get the upgraded screens. As an employee, I don't give a shit about the RAM or the processor, but when my company foisted a 1366x768 T540p on me, I just about shit myself. Especially since I'm used to dealing with Excel sheets on my 1920x1200 W510.
Also, keyboards matter. You have no idea how much we appreciate good keyboards. Numpads are also real usefulffeatures.
>>51212682
i find it that you shouldnt be restricted using it, you want to move it you fucking push it in that direction
if you're not a pussy, works great
>>51210366
>anything after T420/X220
yeh nah mate
>>51211061
n
many other stickers
>>51211061
No
I removed all the stickers from my Thinkpad except for the ones on the bottom with serial/type numbers and stuff
>>51212682
Just push that bitch in the direction you want it to go, don't be overly careful with it. The harder you push, the faster it goes.
It'll become easier than using a trackpad desu senpai, just takes a bit of getting used to if you've never used a trackpoint before.
Which was the last thinkpad series that offered a 4:3 aspect ratio?
Cant tell if this is all a ruse or they are actually good laptops. but now i want one, they are pretty cheap.
>>51212751
I often use my laptop on the train.
The train tables are so close to my body it becomes very awkward to use a trackpad.
That's why I think a trackpoint will be easier on the long run.
>>51212910
>>51213019
Thanks, I 'll just practice until I git gut.
desu senpai
>>51213706
They are actually good.
But I think a Dell Latitude is equally good and better value for money.
>>51213692
T61. T60 if you want good resolution options.
>>51212825
I don't think it's much of a performance increase, but you do get USB 3.0 on the i7 models. They also run a bit hotter than usual, though.
Posting from my recently acquired x201. This laptop is fucking perfect desu senpai.
>tfw went from my max spec'd W520 back to my single core 1gb ram R61i
lubuntu is great
>>51212825
the i7 has a slightly higher clock rate and slightly more l3 cache. not really worth it imo
>>51213777
baka
>X1 Carbon
>i73667U
>240gb SSD
>8GB RAM
>600 euro moneys
Good deal or not? My current laptop is dying and I need a new one quick.
>>51212825
The i7 would do well in a larger machine like a T520, but particularly a W520, where it has a lot of room to breathe and cool off. Unless you absolutely need USB 3.0, then stick with the i5.
anyone had to deal with a stripped screw before?
how did you get it out?
>every x240 I find on ebay has a TN screen
what is the point of living senpai
>tfw I get my t420s today
:-)
>>51215435
Either weld something to it, or strip it down more and use an Allen wrench.
>>51215435
rubber band on top?
Posting this again to get thoughts
Bought a thinkserver, turning it into a workstation.
TS140 w/ Xeon Quad Core @ 3.2ghz
Which uses more battery power, thinklight or a backlit keyboard?
>>51215679
thinklight = 1 LED
backlit kb = 1 LED/key
what do you think
>>51215679
>one little LED light
>or multiple little LED lights underneath the keyboard
not sure anon
>mfw Amazon takes 6 days to send me the SSD, ultrabay and 8GB RAM bank for my T420
C-Come one I want to use this shit
>>51209449
hows this deal /g/?
> T420 decent condition $270
> 8gb (2x4) ram $60
> 240 gb sandisk ssd $110
> 440 total
all from newegg and in canadabucks so like 330 Us dollars
>tfw seller decided to ship with UPS Ground shipping
FUCK I AM GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT TWO MORE YEARS
I bought an almost new x41 tablet for $85 today
It has still XP pro on it.
I want to flush it with Linux any compatibly issues?
>mfw no scratches on screen
Thank you /g/ to recommend me the x201. Man, I'm in love with this little motherfucker. This shit is built like a fucking tank.
So happy to fall for the chinkpad meme desu senpai
Do the x201 and the T401 have the same perfomance?
To me it looks like that there are only differences in harware (optical drive, display size), is that right?
>>51215705
>>51215723
>macbooks
>backlit keyboard
>still gets better battery life than thinkpads
lmao
>>51217245
Never heard of the T401.
Isn't that a highway in southern Canada?
>>51217447
T410, my bad
/tpg/ I'm about to buy this T420- tinyurl com/o9cssrp . Does this look like a good deal?
>>51217990
Anyone?
>>51219075
booooo >:(
what say /g/? I'm especially interested in the dedicated video card, as I often work with CAD and CFD-post processing applications (mechanical engineering fag here)
http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/sys/5293002913.html
I want to buy a t420 or w520 200-500ish looking to show off my ThinkPad in all my programming clases like the autist I am and play a lil vidya on it so I want some sort of dedicated gpu even if it's shitty and ment for cad . I want good battery life and powerful specs I will never probably use . what should I get /g/
>>51219316
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Precision-M4500-15-6-Laptop-Intel-Core-i5-2-67GHz-8GB-RAM-Windows-7-/331700906153?hash=item4d3aea28a9:g:ejoAAOSw~bFWO-3l
same laptop, specs are higher across the board
>>51219356
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-W520-Quad-Core-i7-2760QM-2-4GHz-8GB-500GB-nVidia-15-6-Win-7-16B-/181921811432?hash=item2a5b628be8:g:jt0AAOSw5ZBWOmfQ
Sent the seller a pm about the screen. 1080p
t420s arrived, it's pretty thin
>>51219756
>mfw I see this literally a few days after paying $400 for a W520 with the 2620M and Quadro 1000
>>51211061
Some I've kept, yee
>>51219756
nice
Is /tpg/ up for a tour of the ThinkPad development labs in Japan?
http://www.lenovo.com/customercenter/us/en/yamato.html
>>51219356
My T420 will play Besiege just fine with the HD3000.
>>51219979
It's alright m8. I was gonna get one for myself but it would be almost 700 canuckbux
>>51220058
So what you're saying is my ChinkPad is really a JapBook?
>>51220096
Yeah, that's why the japs fucking love thinkpads
>>51220096
They're designed in Yamato. Assembled in China.
>>51219979
You could always just, you know, buy the better one and sell the first.
>>51220058
>Thinkpads are actually designed by Japs
It all makes sense now. That's why they're so far ahead of Lenovo's other garbage. Because well-educated engineers who are paid a living wage in a country obsessed with quality toil day and night to design these things.
At last I truly see.
>>51220278
>japanese
>paid living wage
>>51220278
> in a country obsessed with quality toil day and night
This is a myth.
>>51220094
I'm Canada too m8. With shipping and import charges for our socialist government, I paid about $470 USD, aka $625 Canadian. This is truly suffering; I remember the good old days of 2012 when the dollar was above par and everything from the States was actually cheaper. Wanted a T60p? It was yours for absolutely nothing. Now we're getting a rake shoved up our collective asses by the exchange rate.
>>51220180
I briefly thought about doing that. But a few things about this listing worry me.
>9 available units, likely of varying condition
>Scuffs and marks all over the outside of the case
>White noise turned up to max in the photos
Something doesn't sit right here.
>get fucking Optimizer Pro on this computer again
>fuck it
>burn HDD
>linux4u
>nothing works out of the box
>Solaris detects second screen, no wacom support, screen stays either on or off, regardless of position
>xubutu just died with the LCD
I might just go back to Solaris, damn chrome has been acting like a bitch while torrenting, 4 distros will download but bug out at the very end.
>>51220058
Maybe next time I'm over there. I slept in a hotel a 1 minute walk from the Hakozaki building without taking notice to say hi and see what followed.
>go on tour
>proceed to autism
>>51220301
Railway pays decently though, just that it's a lot of rigour to make it as crew
>buy thinkpad t420
>overheat issue
>open it
>see this
What did I do to deserve this?
>>51221961
...what?
>>51221961
You suck at taking pictures, is all that I know now.
/tpg/ I'm shopping for a T420 on ebay and keep on seeing postings with the same description and pictures by different sellers... These are scammers right? Or am I just being paranoid?
>>51221961
All manufacturers do this shit. Use your own and watch load temps drop by up to 30ºC
>>51222069
They probably all googled the same image.
As to wheter or not they are legit... it's kinda a crapshoot. 99% of the time it's legit.
I got mine refurbished on newegg. (for about $225 fyi)
I just checked my eBay tracking information and it's telling me that the package has been "delivered", but it's in a completely different city. I figured this must be some sort of error so I checked the FedEx website, and it's telling me the exact same thing, only here it's also saying it's been signed for by some random person.
Should I wait and see what happens or just contact the seller right now? I've never had this happen before.
>>51222314
Ha weird, message them indeed.
>mfw my coworker and I both shipped the wrong item to an eBay customer separately
Good times
>>51222314
What does it say for the delivery date? I would wait till the end of that, whatever it is, and then go through the resolution centre. Worst case scenario is the seller is an idiot and sent it to the wrong address and you get your money back, use it to buy another machine. Best case scenario is it shows up a few days later and you get a free Thinkpad.
>>51222445
It says November 7, which is tomorrow. Do I need to wait until the end of the day or what? I'm pretty fucking pissed.
>>51222653
You should act immediately to create a paper trail.
Contact the seller through ebay and maybe shoot an email to fed ex.
anyone running a egpu setup on their dankpad? how to do this?
>>51222314
maybe the wrong tracking number was added to your order?
>>51215371
this may be a little late, but i fucking LOVE my carbon
posting from my new t420s senpai
this shit is great, the keyboard is amazing, it's thin and light, it's well built
I'm thinking about getting the ultrabay battery extension because the battery life is very meh, not unusable but decidedly meh
College poorfag reporting in.
Narrowed my choices down to either an X301 or T420, both refurb, both ~200. Would definitely get the T420 but I'm wondering if it would be too much weight to carry around all day. Also, how's the battery life?
T420 or X301fags, lend me your advice.
>>51222871
I did a little bit of research and found that shit sent through the Global Shipping Program tends to sort of disappear in Erlanger, Kentucky (where my package is listed as "delivered") and then sort of re-appear again a few days later. Unfortunately eBay is not letting me contact him through the resolution center yet, it will only let me do that tomorrow. I may wait until the evening or something since I have 45 days from the payment date to make a complaint.
>>51223157
That's a distinct possibility but I have no fucking clue what's going on. I get shit shipped in from Japland all the time and there are literally zero issues, tracking numbers work, everything is good. But the one time I have something come up from 'murrica, everything is out of place.
>>51223173
get it, it wont hurt, especially if you don't use the ultrabay much anyways.
>>51223244
X301 is very very underpowered, we are talking a third gen Core 2 Duo thats undervolted and Intel 4500 MHD graphics... not even HD2000.
1.8" SATA III drives are a lot harder to nab than typical 2.5" drives, though there are some decently priced SSDs for them
T420 just werks, its pretty good for the money IMO.
>>51223289
chances are there is some paper pusher that is in charge of entering tracking info that isn't paid enough to do his job correctly. Keep in mind, ebay is full of garbage sellers that work out of a shack
Four more days till my X220t arrives!
>>51223290
Alright, sounds good. Thanks man.
>>51223244
Unless you really know what you're getting into, an X301 as a daily driver isn't worth it because ULV Core2 and still middling battery life for today's standards
Unless you're really that weak (if skinny azns can carry gaymen laptops up the hill that UNSW sits on, you should be fine), a T420 shouldn't be too much to carry. As for battery life, on the T420, a tick under 1 hour per cell (or about an hour if you stretch it) is reasonable. As a general guide, the X301 under stretch is similar, although its cells are smaller (6 cell is ~43Wh in the X301 vs 60Wh in the T420 and the T420 can also get 9 cells)
>tfw W700DS went for ~600USD on shitbay recently
I wish they weren't so rare
I'm not even the mobile workstation type since I'm loyal to the X line but I still want one
>>51223244
I don't know about the X301, but my X300 is fantastically slow with Windows 7 and moderately tolerable with Linux. The ancient low-voltage Core2Duo is marginally faster than my old Pentium 4. I'd say stop being a weak bitch and get the T420.
>>51223244
oooh, get the t420s m8
I just got mine. My brother has a t420 so I've held and used both. I used the t410 before this one, and the size/weight difference is unreal. the t410 is just bulky and crazy heavy by comparison. the t420s is as thin as a macbook pro and very light, lighter than the macbook pro.
only cons are the port placement, which isn't a huge bother for me really, and the battery life, which is why I'm probably getting the ultrabay battery expansion.
>>51223326
>>51223356
I'm skinny but not anorexic skinny, I can probably manage. So I can expect about 4 hours of battery life or what?
>>51223364
Yeah man I'd love to. Funny I just saw your post above mine and decided to look up the 420s. Can't find many deals for ~200 that aren't scratched or dented to hell though. Might just have to suck it up.
>>51223306
This guy has a 100% positive feedback rating over 400 or so ratings. I figured it looked legit. But yeah, if I don't see something by tomorrow, I'm letting loose the 3-headed eBay dog.
>>51223290
>1.8" SATA III drives are a lot harder to nab than typical 2.5" drives, though there are some decently priced SSDs for them
Nigga literally just get an mSATA SSD, which are plentiful, and an mSATA to 1.8" converter. Did that for my T410s and shit works brilliantly.
>>51223421
good luck! if you act important enough maybe they'll give you a discount or something
>>51223334
I have to say, the screen is gimmicky, since its a TN panel that's rotated sideways on a laptop lid thats already at an angle, you get to deal with wonderful color shifting.
>tfw paid $1200 two years ago
>>51223435
Oh yeah, there's that too, but you're still limited to mSATA compared to 2.5", who knows maybeh anon wanted a 1TB laptop HDD lol
>>51223400
4 hours from the X301 6 cell
4 hours from the T420 6 cell, maybe 5 and a bit if it's fresh and/or lightly used. But you can into 9 cell which can get you 7-8 hours too
>>51223334
Maybe if it was a W701ds. There's some more improvements in that
But it's what happens when you push a monster that costs at least $5500 for a decent config. There can only be so many that need it
>>51223460
am i the only one at unease because this guy isnt anon? maybe in just being a newfag, carry on.
>>51223400
Got mine buy now on ebay for $185 free shipping, it's in very good condition.
Size comparison with the t410
>>51223482
you are being a newfag.
you WANT namefags in generals like this so you can confirm with previous posts that they know what they're talking about.
>>51223462
>But it's what happens when you push a monster that costs at least $5500 for a decent config.
Shit. I never looked at the original MSRPs.
Now it makes more sense.
Is there ANY way to get stereo mix on an X220?
I just need to know this. If there is a way, I will buy some max spec'd X220 right now. It seems like the perfect laptop, but if it doesn't have stereo-mix, I can't use it.
>>51223512
or rather, does ANY relatively modern thinkpad have stereo mix?
51223483
And another
Also worth noting, the build quality is much better on the t420s. Everything is more solid. Speakers are very good. Display is a tad dim imo, but very sharp.
What does "normal wear and tear" mean on eBay, scratches? Cracks? dead pixels?
>>51223460
>$1200 2 years ago
pretty lucky. Doesn't it just get to you that they go through all that effort to make a decent machine only to cheap out on the display? How hard would it be to just stick a good IPS panel on both screens and be done with it?
>>51223568
if there aren't clear images of the item I wouldn't bother even looking further into it
Anyone ever used an x130e? Opinions on using it to run Ubuntu? Possible to use as a Hackintosh?
>>51223568
It could mean literally anything if they aren't specific about where the wear and tear is. Wear on the lid is whatever; it was made to take wear and scratches, it is rubberized and rugged
The more pictures, the better, look for cracking/chipping at the corners (signs it has been dropped), look at the wear on the keyboard, the wear on the trackpad. Heavy wear on the spacebar is something to look out for, as you don't want a keyboard from somebody who types like king kong and smashes the spacebar hard like an ape.
>>51223563
That color shifting is seriously painful
>>51223444
I don't want discounts, I just want my stuff.
>>51223653
Well, at least I got trips
>>51223512
>>51223548
Is the last thinkpad series to have stereo mix the 60's? what a fucking joke. can someone confirm this?
>>51223569
>Doesn't it just get to you that they go through all that effort to make a decent machine only to cheap out on the display?
Lenovo kinda does that with all Thinkpads, though.
>>51223675
Yeah, but it's especially shitty when they do it for a high end mobile workstation with an aux screen that anyone with half a brain can tell you will have viewing issues with TN
I'm not really sure why they cheap out on displays for business lines. Having a good screen is just as important for corporats as it is for media consumers
>>51223482
I originated from /o/, tripfag central, I'm just a Lenovo shill with a lot of IBM ThinkPads.
>>51223568
It should just be scratches, rubbed of lid edges, not firm but not loose hinges.
There shouldn't be dead pixels, usually that doesn't happen from new.
>>51223569
Yeah, its strange as the WUXGA display was nice for the W700, I mean it had a color calibrator and was used for photographers. I don't think there were 11" IPS displays at the time, and if it were an option I think the price would of been 5K rather than 4.2K for a fully spec'd unit.
With that said, the LCD is nothing compared to the Dreamcolor displays of HP's machines, I would LOVE to have an Elitebook 8740W w/ ATI graphics and an IPS display. Strange how HP had a one fan unit for their CPU/GPU and separate heatsinks. Dunno how reliable it is, but it looked decent when I had a 8730W.
I am glad Lenovo decided bring back a 17" monster, I am curious how the P series will end up like, hopefully its built like a Dell Precision and not just a gaming laptop w/ CAD/Quadro graphics and an E Series build quality.
>>51223732
When I bought a laptop from a dude he said 'people dont care about screens', then again companies probably don't care either when they could save good money when having enterprise fleets.
>tfw god
$400
t440p
16gb ram
512gb ssd
i7-4800 quad core
1080ips screen
all for $400, don't even give a fuck if I have to spend 20 bux for a new trackpad
>>51223846
but does it have stereo mix?
>inb4 you actually let the RIAA kek you
we're waiting
>>51223823
What do you do for a living? How much do you make selling computers?
>>51223823
>could save good money when having enterprise fleets.
I suppose this is the case but using a TN anywhere outside of a room with blinds is fucking misery. Ever try using a TN outside or in bright conditions? Might as well be fucking blindfolded
>>51223858
no but it still has warranty until feb 2017, i can just send it to lelnovo 3 times and get a free upgrade to a t450s or something
>>51223669
Latitude E6400 definitely has stereo mix (which also means the audio doesn't work right in windows 10, but for your purposes...)
>>51223732
Having worked for a company with 300 employees, I can say that they don't give a damn about the screens. They care about minimizing their costs to the maximum possible extent. The only people who get the IPS screen new from the factory are self-employed professionals or executives who feel the need to have something better than the rank-and-file employees.
When the time came to replace our aging fleet of 1280x800 T400s, we almost ordered a bunch of 1366x768 T430s before one of the managers decided we should get L430s instead because "they're cheaper". And these are the people who you expect will upgrade the screens.
>>51223846
How is this possible
>>51223823
>Dreamcolor displays of HP's machines
Is their business grade worth using? I've always been afraid of the company after some Proliant and consumer hardware HP nightmares
>>51223907
What I make for a living is a joke, but it is the life I choose, as I would rather be homeless then sell ThinkPads.
Currently I work for an electonic recycler in San Diego, I used to work for starbucks before then.
Snipe n flip ThinkPads, made some decent dosh on em, but nothing amazing, however working at a recycler, I kinda got tired of reinstalling OS's on laptops so I kinda stopped.
>>51223909
>blindfolded and fucked in the ass with siracha
Yeah it fucking sucks. but Lenovo were a bunch of cocks not forcing their LCD manufactures to keep IPS displays and having to go the cheap to shit route instead.
>>51223959
fucking ouch, I've yet to mess with an L series other then the SL400c, but damn, T430 was just nice.
>>51223990
I don't come across them much but I didn't mind the machine, it did have whack LCD cables, they would green/invert the display if not connected right, and didn't seem to be sturdy when removing for maintenance.
I forget which 12" laptop i had but the 2730p (i think) was bretty gud, minus no middle click
There was some old pre elitebook compaq 12" that was decently built...
Haven't touched any of them with an Core processor.
I do like the Dell E6330 over the E6430's. E5530 wasn't too badly built.
>>51223959
i guess when you;re buying a few thousand of something you want to get credit for saving the company a million dollars. So then who cares if everyone has to look at shitty screens and wait 5 minutes to log in for the next 3 years?
>>51224049
How is the x220t as an EDC?
>>51223959
I'm not shocked that companies want to minimize costs. I'm just surprised that Chinkovo doesn't offer many IPS options for mobile workstation laptops
>>51224085
such is the life of the corpo-kek bottomfeeder
hows the ips screen for x220?
heard there are problems with ghosting or something
>>51224049
>There was some old pre elitebook compaq 12" that was decently built...
What happened to HP? When exactly did the build quality take a huge hit? Was it immediately post Compaq?
>>51224154
I didn't know we were filtering memes now
'c'u'c'k' = kek
>>51223976
craigzlist
>>51224183
There's an image retention issue which you will see if you leave some black text on a white background on the screen for a few minutes and then immediately switch to a dark grey or dark green background. Same problem as the 2012 Macbooks with LG screens. The (SL)(B3) revision of the screen is supposed to not have this problem but I can't confirm that as I've never seen one.
>>51223823
>he said 'people dont care about screens'
Given how prevalent 1366x768 came to be, kinda true I guess
>>51224086
An X220t is still my daily driver, I'm going to have to replace the display overlay and bezel sooner or later because the keyboard and palmrest are making marks on it due to the rubber tabs snapping off and disappearing (I lost both in the same year, managed to find one and keep it in my wallet until finding a way to put it back on then lost it again)
Not sure where I'm going to move once it shits the bed but I think any touchscreen business laptop will do for me onwards
>Both brother and I bought thinkpads because we both needed new laptops
You could say that we got
double memed
>>51224241
can you give me the full product name of the screen with out the issue?
i really want to upgrade to an ips panel but that issue is holding me back
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-W520-Quad-Core-i7-2760QM-2-4GHz-8GB-500GB-nVidia-15-6-Win-7-16B-/181921811432?hash=item2a5b628be8:g:jt0AAOSw5ZBWOmfQ
Is this good /g/? It will be my first thinkpad but i'm worried about the bios being locked. I want it for some motion graphics work on the go.
Do thinkpads have numpads or im fucked?
>>51224393
buy a mac if you dont know the answer to that
>>51224364
Where does it say anything about the BIOS being locked?
>>51224353
LP125WH2 (SL) (B3)
but be very careful with eBay descriptions, stay away if they say "compatible with" or something
>>51224232
Fucking act on that shit. I don't know what kind of idiot would sell something like that for so little, unless it was stolen. Get it as soon as you can at all costs.
>>51224545
cant buy it from like amazon or something?
>>51224541
It doesn't, that's why i'm worried. There's no pictures of the bios or anything.
>>51224093
They don't offer IPS precisely because companies are their primary customers and companies want to minimize costs.
>>51224085
The thing I don't get is we were saving about $26,000, which seems like a lot but was literally a drop in the bucket for that company. And we paid several times that amount in IT support costs by having inferior computers.
>>51224572
You can but no guarantees. Make sure to check the label on whatever you get. Like I said I haven't actually tried a SL B3, both my X220 and my cousin's X230 are from before Nov 2012 and both have the SL B1 and the image retention issue.
>>51224574
>>51224364
This worries me for other reasons. The keyboard is worn and the lid is all blemished. Doesn't look like it was babied.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T440p-14-Intel-Core-i5-4300M-4th-Gen-2-6-8GB-500GB-HD-/181923865566?hash=item2a5b81e3de:g:zhUAAOSwFnFWEK~i
worth $350?
anyone got a t42 and want to share there specs with me me specs ;
80 gb hard drive (working on getting a 320 gb one in the ultra bay)
cpu 1.7 ghz
ram 1 gb 2 gb or on there way
new network card it dosent work it say i have to remove it and then restart
the whole thing is like brand new currently trying to dual boot ubuntu 10.1 and win xp
I have a thinkpad 2656 (r31??)
I need a replacement down key.
Could I use one of these?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-ThinkPad-T40-T41-T43-R50-R51-R52-T42-Keyboard-Key-/160475349729?hash=item255d1382e1:g:x1wAAMXQQtNRzdU-
Dear eurofags,
could you share your tips with me on where to look for cheap ThinkPads? I feel like its really hard to find a good deal on european ebay sites.
>>51225009
>T43p master race
You'll need to get the white listed bios for the wifi to work
For my unit I went with an OEM model
>>51224393
Lame 15" E series models do
T540 and W540 do as well
>>51224255
Like an old POS HP laptop will get more bids than a better performing business counterpart, I don't get it
A lot of people like to buy laptops/computers that look 'nice'
>be working at recycler
>have a bunch of desktops
>Guys from Mexico come by and check out stuff
>do you have any small computers?
>my customers like shiny computers, I can't sell these
It's pretty kek worthy though
>>51224185
The DV6 laptops doomed them, overheating bastards, plus them selling PCs with 1GB ram while running Vista...
A lot of friends and associates who used to own HP now own Mac, though their desktops aren't too bad
>>51224093
NEED that laptop...
>>51225650
>plus them selling PCs with 1GB ram while running Vista...
I remember fucking Acer releasing Vista Basic computers with 512MB RAM. No wonder why it got so much bad rep.
>>51225009
Get Windows POSReady 2009. It's basically XP but still gets the security updates etc.
>>51225774
At the same time, Apple was selling their $2000US MacBook Pro with 512MB of RAM.
2005-2007 was a dark time for buying laptops,
most of them had garbage build quality, heavy overheating and really shit battery life.
>>51224154
Ultrabay numpad? Didn't know such things were a thing.
>>51225009
>there
You keep using that word.
>>51225819
>tfw it gets "telemetry" updates as 7 and 8 did
>>51226150
You can trust Microsoft™, friend :^)
Jumped the gun and bought a W510. How did I do?
>i7 Q720
>4gb ram
>nvidia quadro fx 880m
>320gb hdd
>15.6" HD+
>minimal wear
$500
>>51225312
Search Amazon from other EU countries or search in websites for announces from your country.
I found a T420 in basically perfect conditions for 220€.
You won't find deals like in the US, but you can get close, and at least you'll have the keyboard with the right layout without having to use stickers or buy another
>>51225312
I've got my x201 from Ebay for only 190 eurobucks. Maybe a bit overpriced but the laptop is in PERFECT conditions.
>>51226426
You fucked up desu senpai
>>51226568
pls elaborate faM
>>51226426
Major fuckup
>>51226568
that i7 is like from 5 years ago, and has the same power as todays laptop celerons
you got memed
hello what is the best thinkpad with ips fullhd and can play csgo at low setting
>>51209449
My T410 looks like it's on its last legs.
I'll be looking to spend maybe up to a few hundred pounds for a ThinkPad to do what my iPad can't. torrents, office, some light gaming, photoshop etc.
Is the W series generally considered better than the T series?
>>51226426
AYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>51226426
Let me share with you the details of my own purchase, and you can compare notes.
>W520
>i7-2620M
>8 gigs of RAM
>Quadro 1000M
>500 GB HDD
>15.6" FHD (1080p)
>Practically flawless
$400. And people were telling me I fucked up because of the 2620M.
>>51228084
but you did fuck up
>W520
>i7-2760QM
>16GB RAM
>Quadro 1000M
>500GB HDD
>120GB SSD
>15.6" FHD
>mint
>$450
>>51228175
I fucked up a little, yes. But it wasn't a suicide-inducing catastrophe.
>>51225312
no it's not hard, it's impossible in europe.
so find one in good condition and compare other offers on ebay then pull the trigger
/g/entooman
I recently bought a x220 tablet with core i5. I must say I'm pretty happy with it. I plan to use it for photoshop and some other 2d graphics software. I'll upgrade the hdd to ssd soon and already upgraded ram from 4gigs to 8gigs(at least for now, maybe 16 in the future)
It has a fairly good battery on it which goes about 4 hours on minimal use. it's in very very good condition too.
So can I use it with power cord plugged in when battery installed? Will it damage battery if I keep it on power all the time?
and currently it has win7 pro on it, I'm gonna migrate to a ssd when I get one. Do you recommend migration or clean install win 7 pro?
also I'd like to install linux on it too: I have gentoo in mind but I'm scared. I really like the idea of having the most custom OS but can I really do it myself? Because I'm not a regular linux user; but I installed and am using lubuntu, crunchbang and centos7 on some other machines for server use (or very rarely as a dual boot win).
What do you recommend?
>Space laptop
>>51228964
>Also NASA and the ISS uses Windows
>>51219921
I see alot of people with T4__s (with 's' suffix) and ktgee guide says
>T series models with an ’s’ suffix (eg. T410s) means they’re slimmer than the regular T series laptops but unlike the X series, they have worse battery life compared to the regular T laptops. They also usually cost more than a regular T series.
So I guess it is no longer true?
>>51225312
Just go to american ebay and buy from a guy with a lot of stars.
I got my X220 for 250 euros everything included (shipping, import tax and all that bullshit)
>>51228916
I think there is some sort of an option in the power manager where you can prevent the computer from charging the battery until it falls below a certain threshold. I used to set mine to 80%.
>>51229212
so If I let power cord plugged when %100 all the time it'll damage the battery in the long run?
bcs I was thinking to use it without batter when I can use power
>>51215435
I used a drill to remove a stripped screw on a laptop before
and there are other ways:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jliBOo10bA
>>51229087
They cost about the same now. The only real sacrifice that you're making is battery life, and you lose a USB port or two (but you get USB 3.0)
>>51229761
T4xxs' also tend to run hotter because of the thinner metal body, especially with a dGPU
>>51229275
Yeah, if you're constantly keeping the battery charged up over the long run it will get damaged. I suppose you could just take the battery out and use the laptop on AC only, but I never liked doing this because either I would forget the battery at home when I had to go somewhere in a hurry, or dust would collect in the battery bay, or my laptop would shut down during a power outage. It's better just to change the charging properties IMO.
>>51229795
My T410s idles at about 55 c with the slowest CPU option (i5-520M) and no dGPU. I'd hate to see what this thing is like with the fastest CPU. I hope they upgraded the cooling for the T420s when they threw in nVidia "house fire special" cards.
currently using an R61i with 1GB ram and a 1.86ghz single core
An X120e is on my local craigslist for $50 with 3GB ram and that AMD E350 cpu. Should I take it? The seller has a second one without RAM and a HDD but I could probably swap that from my R61.
I need something for university and I want to spend as little as possible.
Just bought an X220 and I'd like to add a SSD. Should I buy an mSATA SSD or a 2.5 SSD? Would the mSATA be noticeably slower? I'd like to keep the HDD that came with, but not at the cost of performance.
>>51229884
>>51229795
my t420s runs cooler than your t410s
tell me why i shouldn't buy a W520
Are they all 1600x900?
>>51230473
they're heavy and unless you need a workstation, you don't need a W520 for any reason
>source
owned a very high spec'd one and it was just a burden
>>51230486
b-b-but the specs ;_;
but really, I'm looking for a desktop replacement because the army is gonna send me to sandnigger land and I cant use my actual computer. Use it for browsing and fucking around in macromedia flash
>>51230534
you'll still be fine with an i5 2520 with 8gb ram or whatever. you don't need an i7 qm with 16gb ram and a quadro. i guarantee you don't. it's just extra crap to deal with.
>>51230356
>Would the mSATA be noticeably slower?
Same speed as equivalent SATA drive
>>51230486
Basically what the other guy said, they're just not that portable. I mean, most of the older-ish thinkpads are heavy and bulky, but the W520 seems just too bulky to be portable.
The t410 is heavy and bulky but manageable. The t420 is kinda bulky by today's standards but still much lighter and manageable. The "s" series are obviously much better in regards to weight and portablility. The t420s is about as thin but lighter than the MBP as you can see here >>51219921
>>51223604
It seemed to be just enough to run Win7 & eOS, I suggest at least an AMD 1.6GHz Processor and 4GB RAM.
No clue about Hackintosh.
>>51230018
The E350 may be enough, the E240 is just shit.
Thats a pretty good price, I'm presuming it doesn't come with an OS?
>>51230661
>doesn't come with an OS
the pic related was the picture from the ad and it comes with "windows 7 ult" kek
http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/sys/5296383138.html
I thinking about low balling him to give me both for $50.
>>51225650
how do i do that
How do/could I disable that awful beep that Lenovo makes activate whenever I go to BIOS? I checked BIOS itself and the beep options only refer to other instances of beeping.
>>51230721
kek, yeah so it doesn't come with an OEM key, I'd say lowball in person, ask if Win7 is genuine, and if you can get the matching COA with it, coz if its not its pirated and the fuck was too derp/lazy to install home premium.
>>51230802
I am presuming you are asking about the T4x WiFi?
http://www.command-tab.com/2006/02/26/thinkpad-1802-error-fix/
>>51224826
Is it really that bad? It seems the picture quality has a lot to do with how it looks and i see some dust too. But then again who knows.
>>51211990
they will care about the keyboard once they use one that's actually good
>have the x220 with 9 cell and IPS
>desire a non shit resolution
t420s battery life and thickness compared? i get 8-10 hours on my 220
Anyone here ever use a ThinkCentre desktop?
My old community center had TCs with WinXP/98 Dual booted and i just get so nostalgic thinking about them.
should I remove my palmrest stickers
>>51231516
Definitely thicker, and definitely better battery life. my t420s gets about 3 hours, which isn't total dogshit but could be better. It may get up to 4-5 hours with the ultrabay batter expansion though.
>>51231686
I did, I think they feel and look annoying.
>>51223502
The battery in that picture is almost out. It's makin me nervous.
>>51231973
it's a shitty picture
>tfw it's so rare there are no good pictures
anyone here have a 3rd gen x1 carbon?
whats the battery life like???
>>51232685
great
Dear fellow T420 poorfags, what equally cheap ass ram did you get for your dankpad?
>>51230473
The one benefit to the W520 is it's extremely easy to find 1920x1080 ones. Never, ever buy 1600x900, completely defeats the purpose of having a W series. Just get a T420 if you're planning to do that resolution (since it's also pointless getting a 15.6" laptop with the resolution of a 14" one).
>>51231405
It looks a little worn, but that's the price of getting an i7-2760M and a Quadro 2000M for $450.
>>51219921
>>51229087
I am an older T420s owner. Fucking love this thing. Best machine for me. Only shame is the meh TN screen. Battery life isn't superb but good enough for my basic mobile use. I always have it plugged in whenever I am working on it though so battery life was never a big issue for me.
>>51233634
It comes with a 4GB stick, I just put in another 4GB for something like $20
Stupid question but how long did it take you guys to get use to your clitmouse? I tried my dad's T510 and I felt like a downy using it. I ordered a x200 tablet a few days ago. Should arrive on monday.
What is the word on t-series?
I always had small laptops with humble specs so I don't feel comfortable buying a large computer.
>>51234198
My first laptop was a Thinkpad T21, which I got from my dad. Thing didn't even have a trackpad, so you HAD to use the clitmouse. It was pretty easy for me to learn, took about 2-3 days to get used to it from what I recall, but then again you learn this shit quicker when you're young, and at the time I had never used a laptop touchpad before, so I wasn't "used" to anything else. I'd say give it 6-8 days before it starts feeling natural.
Should I be wary of an eBay ad for a ThinkPad that only says "Powers on and boots to BIOS"?
Could that mean it's passworded?
>>51234531
That just means it is functional.
It could still have a BIOS password still and it could not have an OS or hard drive.
>>51234198
probably a day or two
on another note, im graduating college in the spring and i feel like rewarding myself by going shopping. ive given myself a budget and after buying new clothes, ive decided to buy a new laptop. ive had a t430 in the past, but it was dropped into a pool. since then ive been getting by with a chromebook.
I have around $1700 CAD to spend, which is around $1300 USD
what's the best Thinkpad I can get?
and if you're recommending a macbook pro, i already have one for work. for work its okay, but for personal use id rather get a thinkpad.
bought a used 2011 thinkpad edge with an i3 370m
did i fuck up
You freak out over the thinkpads
What is it even good for
advice for third world poorfags?
>>51234793
bizness
9 cell battery only charges to 36% bought a new battery and hopefully it's better :)
Why do older Chinkpad batteries only charge to a certain percentage?
Are bad cells being cutoff from being recharged?
>>51234863
fuck, I don't know
What are laptops good for? All you need is the latest iphone in gold
https://youtu.be/NNJsFURpMT4
Looking to buy a W series. If I'm mostly using my Thinkpad to make massive Excel sheets and watch Cambodian puppetry, would it be best to get a quad-core i7, or save some money and get a dual-core with a higher clock rate?
>>51235937
I think quad core models only let you get to get to use all four slots for ram but I may be wrong
