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Steroids general.
We're all gonna make it.
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>>37227454
>a little reminder for the peanut gallery
>>37236404
not at the moment, but I'm also not brewing at the moment
I could have an 18l autoclave at my house by monday for under $175
>>37236433
>Will 5 mg of bpc work better than 25 mg tb 500? Can only afford either or, or 1 bpc and 1 tb 500.
probably the tb500
>>37236328
> I don't think I've wanted to get blackout drunk this badly in a long time
You alright?
>>37236453
New boots ordered. Yesyes.
Thoughts?
>>37236479
I swear no one on sst uses a damn autoclave and it pisses me off. At least FL had an autoclave and UV cabinet.
>>37236490
Off to fight in the trenches of the western front lad?
I kid, nice boots I guess? I don't like boots.
>>37236506
I dont wear anything else but didn't have any good ones to go with a suit and go casual with.
Got these for fall/winter and walnut calf for anything else. But suede is different.
Just ate 4 cyclobenzaprine
>>37236331
>don't watch anime
>work at REI
I was very confused but now I know y'all are a bunch of gay nerds
I fucking new it
I'm starting tren soon
that only means one thing
lots of shitposting about chocolate choco chimps
>>37236458
yeah I was quoting the scene
go watch it lol
cmon man
>>37236560
Where the fuck have you been? Also I went to an REI work retreat this past weekend. You guys are fucking goobers.
>>37236479
post that bitch
>>37236587
>REI work retreat
You guys hug trees, smoke weed, and sing kumbaya? REI does seem like a nice company though.
>>37236579
Tren is awful. I love it.
>>37236619
Nein
>>37236628
I smoked weed and munched Ritalin everyone was doing crazy outdoorsy shit like bouldering or "an easy 14 mile hike". Fuck off I nap on my vacations. Gimme the sunbathing. I don't work for REI.
>>37236481
nothing big, just shitty memories
usually just get steadily shithoused listening to some music out on the deck, eating some terrible food, and smoking a couple cigars
>>37236506
it'd probably take me like a day or two max, having all the materials at hand, to throw together a pretty fucking solid laminar flow hood with dual vis/uv fixtures and big enough for me to curl up in
pretty sure I could throw together a setup good enough to handle anything short of full commercial-scale production for under $3k, including initial investments in lab supplies
>>37236555
10mg? you're going to have one spectacularly shitty hangover when you wake up
>>37236579
can't wait to be able to inhale all of the carbs and not get fat
>>37236619
?
>>37236479
Don't brag about how fast you can get an autoclave. I'm just asking.
>>37236652
Yeah. I felt fine this morning and I ate four last night.
>>37236587
Do you work at REI? Why were you at an event
>>37236645
>>37236655
don't get your panties in a twist, I was just illustrating a point about the cost and availability
>>37236664
fuck, two of them and I'll feel like groggy shit for half the next day
which is kinda ironic because it takes a whooooole lot of alcohol to give me a hangover
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>>37236631
im going to be a terrible person
go from funny mean to mean mean
but new house, new job (hopefully), new tren, should be good
>>37236652
yeah I'm excited
Can't start my orals for a few weeks cause I have plans to get white girl wasted
but after that its go time
>>37236668
A fuckbuddy made me her +1.
>>37236692
>but new house, new job (hopefully), new tren, should be good
jerry's not gonna be a neet anymore?!
my world is crumbling
can't wait for boulder shoulders, noneck traps, and that tren face
gonna hide my power level for like a month, wait for everything to peak and sd to really kick in, then bust out the tank tops
>>37236747
Yessssss
>>37236747
>yfw literally any government job is sorta like being a NEET.
>>37236747
im starting tren so I have that look at a bbq
gonna blow all the fatties out the water
>>37236805
Just get Krieger to build you a gf.
>>37236747
>can't wait for boulder shoulders, noneck traps, and that tren face
>tfw don't like this
>>37236836
I'm using tren to gain strength with little size but.. eh. To each his own.
>>37236836
*tfw don't look like this
>>37236834
I'm not lifting for girls
My heart is already taken
>>37236870
She's awful
>>37236776
this one might be up your alley too
>>37236805
meeting some friends this weekend that haven't seen me since before dnp, gon b gud
>>37236836
pete's my mancrush, I need to get some washer and dryer posters
my pull is really similar to his, but my torso's longer in relation to my legs so instead of having problems at lockout it's my off the floor that's kinda meh
>>37236908
Oof I like her a lot
>>37236874
im going to put rat poison in your adrol and suspend it in bleach
>>37236882
azusa is pure!
PURE!!!
>>37236908
I'm going to see people I havent seen for like a year
hopefully none of them comment on how bald I'm getting lol
>>37236908
do you pull hook or mixed grip?
think you either need to be a masochist or have xbox huge hands to pull hookgrip for maxes
>>37236931
>how bald I'm getting lol
this is the first Ive heard of this
how bad we talking breh?
>>37236931
>how bald I'm getting
>>37236945
I've been thinning for like 4 years
>low test and thinning hair
thanks DNA
>>37236931
Same here, few bbqs coming up. I lost 15kg since I last saw some of them. Some I haven't seen in half a decade. I don't even look like myself anymore. Face is all cut and shit.
Approved girl ? 18yo med student.
>>37236985
do you take any supps like pyruvate etc when on the yellow stuff?
>>37236926
kek
>>37236931
>>37236966
ehh the double dakis was a bad angle but still didn't seem like holy shit level bad
>thanks DNA
hey, you got the chin of power so it's not all bad
>>37236934
submaximal as much hook grip as my thumbs can stand, but I've got small hands so anything north of like 90% and I have to go mixed
>>37236985
jesus christ, that'd be like fish in a barrel
>>37236997
I have artificial lenses, so I can't get cataracts. So no. But I would otherwise.
>>37237014
>jesus christ, that'd be like fish in a barrel
What?
>>37236985
myspace angel to hide her chub
>>37237014
its not terrible
enough 5head for jabs, but I've got crazy bantz so I've got it coming lol
tren sure doesnt help though
Porn is so surreal holy shit. 5 regular type dudes sitting at a table munching steak and beers casually bonding over how they fucked one another. It's like absurdist humour and I'm living it.
>>37237100
best one I saw you post by far
>>37237118
sounds pretty normal mano
>>37237169
>mano
I like that duder
>>37237169
just like your standart monday morning
gay gangbangs, than steak and beer while talking roids and homosex
>>37237187
Actually literally that.
Also discussing gfs
>>37237118
gay
>>37237100
>18
>premed
that shit right there's dead center in my wheelhouse
remember how I snaked those medschool chicks' digits right in front of the cunty alpha who got pissed because I didn't go after her first?
take that and turn the difficulty down to “I’m 12 and what is this?”
>>37237101
dude you've seen my ski slope of a fivehead, no fucks given
>>37237118
>>37237187
>>37237194
sounds like a very, very slightly more homoerotic version of hanging out with some of my guys while I was still the gub'ment's bitch
>>37237200
Why would you waste jerrbears on pointing out the obvious?
>>37237205
you're gay
>>37237157
I still think first tinderdate girl looks better.
Way more innocent yet.... A hint of crazy. And she's 21, so better suited for long term stuff.
>yes, apparently that does matter now.
>>37237213
I'm not and I wouldn't hold out hope duder
>>37237217
You ever fuck a guy or get fucked by a guy?
>>37237202
please tell me your conversations were not like this : remember how I choked you when I fucked you from behind.... I do that to my gf too.... Yeah man, hahaha.
I mean, I get that can feel lonely over there with 1 grill per 500 male soldiers or something.
I am confused
>>37237224
Nope. We typically call that heterosexual.
>>37237236
Do you want to?
>>37237217
why are you texting while eating out steaks with people
very rude
>>37237202
yeah but youre in the military
youre supposed to be bald
im a young hardbody
ill never be complete without my illin pompadour
>>37237224
Nope. But fucking a girl doesn't make you straight. So fucking a dude doesn't make you gay.
Fucking a girl is straight behaviour and fucking a dude is gay. So eh... Undecided yet. I'm just glad a lot of gays don't get kids. Especially the camp gay ones.
>>37237214
age means nothing as long as you don't know them imo, so many 25+ year olds that behave like stupid teenagers and a few really mature 18 year olds. but of course you know this.
She is not bad either, but based on looks it would be the med student for me. med student is also interesting, you can talk roids and drugs with her, and she will most likely make good money.
>>37237236
remember they are wining and dining you as part of the business strategy....don't get hooked on the lifestyle....this is a very finite window. you don't want to get out of that at age 30 after losing your hair or some other unknown with no job skills.
>>37237267
Money is very much irrelevant but yeah.
Also, her pics don't scream "mature adult" to me. And other girl has a pic in half AAA label clothing inc a Burberry winter jacket.
So, I assume there's money there too.
Ideal body for me. Because of the back insertions. Fucks sake.
>>37237299
I am 21, dress like a bum, most of the time just tapered joggers and a tank top plus some high top sneakers and a huge watch. And an adventure time hat.
So to a lot of people I might look like something I am not, I am mature in a lot of ways, at least in important things, other than that I am childish as fuck and that won't change.
But relationship wise I am what you would call mature or adult.
But of course very often looks mean something and say a lot about the person. But that is not always the case.
>>37237227
hence the "very, very slightly more homoerotic"
>>37237249
pls, my hair could make a csm pop a blood vessel at 50 meters and was the envy of every officer in my unit
how come high dose tren doesn't do anything to me but low dose does?
>>37237296
Oh yeah duh. I posted about that earlier.
Speaking of I was given 50mg of cialis that came in a dissolving sublingual. Straight from the doctor I'm told, any experiences? I've inly ever used RC shit.
>>37237376
stuffy nose for days, but other than that high dose cialis is awesome
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> can't seem to get drunk anymore
> can't find plastic pussies for big dick
> can't find decent shoes or shoe lifts for big feet
> "any size" means up to 12
By the way, foot size and cock size correlates with height. Coincidentally, women care about male height and shoes. I've had a girl tell me "you won't get in [the club] with those shoes" and it was dark and I ain't never see her once look at my shoes. Still no idea what's a good shoe, but they likely only make them up to size 12.
>>37236985
I'd hit that. Marry that if green eyed blonde master race.
>>37237373
not eating enough carbs.. as the dose goes up so should your cals but i bet your eating the same
Can you niggas convince me to do sterons? I'm on the LGD + DNP bitch train rn.
>>37237118
here's the soundtrack for that conversation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfCg50a7RbE
>>37236453
I had an allergic reaction about 8 days ago, never had any allergies before.
I'm on 40mg prednisone a day currently.
Am I still natty or should I just start juicing at this point?
>>37237419
>> can't seem to get drunk anymore
Me either. It's kinda weird but atleast now I can run orals for longer.
2cb and xanax combo is a good alternative to drinking and mdma. Don't feel shit the next day and much cheaper.
>>37237419
my shoes are size 10.5 or 11...these seem to be pretty popular all they have left at DSW when I went there was midge sizes and clown shoes.
>>37237419
>By the way, foot size and cock size correlates with height
it really doesn't
my feet are 15-16us (depends on brand) and i have a pretty small penor, am also 6'1 so large feet and tiny 4.5" peepee really sucks duder
>>37237559
>6'1
Damn got excited for a second, thought Stoya was back ;^(
>>37237559
That must suck man.
I am 6' 240lbs, really wide shoulders, huge legs, big hands, just everything is big.
My dick is 7.5*6 and when girls see it they think it is average, then they wonder why the sex was so good and why everything hurts the next day....
An average dick would look like a toothpick on my body.
6'0, 11.5 shoe size, very wide shoulders/chest
6.5*5.2 penore
so I'm not sure if any of that correlates
Found this at the gym today anyone know what it is and what dosing i should take?
Will it make me huge?
>>37237776
small hands and skinny chicken legs though. decent arms
>>37237704
My dick is the same size but Im 5'4 190lbs.
I use to look like a tripod but my quads are starting to make the dink look small in comparison.
>>37237784
looks like mouth wash
are you autistic? either inject it because you don't give a fuck or throw it away because it has aids.
>>37237843
Are you autistic?
It's b8.
>>37237841
I am a bit jealous, do you have small hands too?
It's hard to take really good dick pics with huge hands, they just make everything look small.
my gf is 5'4 and in her hands everything looks huge. tfw 2 hands and mouth are full with dick.
How big is kais dick? I have seen the pics once, can't really remember it too well, but his bbc did not get dwarved by his bb huge quads I think. Must be big as fuck.
>>37237908
forgot to add, no homo
>>37237908
Kai probably has a 9x7, at the least, probably 10x7.
>visiting /fraud/ for the first time
>nothing but homo-sex and dick talk
>>37237945
>>37237945
I didn't even notice that, you must be gay.
>>37237969
Yolo pls, elevate your JB folder, not just any 14 year old girl should do.
>>37237945
you are feeling right at home now, right faggot?
>>37237987
I have some cleaning up to do, it seems
>>37236645
As if she drinks ale. Probably drinks sugary piss like practically every other slut.
>>37238003
God speed, spent about 4 hours last week sorting SFW, NSFW and short hairs and only got a third of the way or so through my folder.
>>37238031
ikr fucking sluts and their sugary drinks
>>37238041
Whenever I start doing something like that I feel so utterly useless, I usually just delete something or try do leave the computer.
>>37238053
It's not gratifying work, that's for sure.
oh shit the doctor put me on trt which is like steroids right? do I still need to sleep if I get testosterone from other sources or can I stay without sleep for let's say, 2-3 weeks?
and what will my gains be going from 4 free testosterone to 40? (3-50 range)
>>37238061
Million doll-hair idea: optical nipple/genital recognition program, ONGR, scans and categorizes NSFW images when it detects a nipple or genitalia. Original idea do not steal.
>>37238091
>do I still need to sleep
wut
>>37238091
>do I still need to sleep
yes
>>37238115
>>37238121
I thought you sleep to produce these shit hormones and if I got them anyway why sleep?
how come nobody had this idea before? what about replacing everything your body makes while sleeping so you never need sleep and function forever?
>>37238146
>I thought you sleep to produce these shit hormones and if I got them anyway why sleep?
lots of reasons.
>how come nobody had this idea before?
our bodies don't work the way you think they do
>what about replacing everything your body makes while sleeping so you never need sleep and function forever?
your brain /needs/ sleep.
not to mention things like cns recovery
.
>go to an extremely liberal college
>roid
>bigger than 98% of campus
>Can wear my Trump shirt and strut around
>libs too intimidated to do anything
Its these thoughts that make me sleep well at night
>>37238202
implying they would do anything if you were a twink
>>37238280
>>37238280
>YOU'RE FUCKING A WHITE MALE!
>HEY HEY, HEY HO, FREE SPEECH HAS GOT TO GO!
how many days after dnp can i carb up?
>tfw no more golden age fraud of 3-4 fast as fuck threads a day
>>37238724
mods killed that, so everyone moved to iirc/whatsapp, that kinda died off when everyone went to jail
>>37238724
>>37238739
It was all a con by the Feds
They worked together all around the world to sucker people in
>>37238739
why'd everyone go to jail? distribution or just personal use?
>>37238804
fighting, rec drugs, mental illness
>IGF1 - lr3
Anybody tried it?
I can get some, but it's very expensive.
>>37238739
We have an irc?
>>37238812
comedy gold lel
>>37236628
I wanna make you pancakes.
>>37238823
oldfags only
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>>37238879
...pancakes
>>37238895
Lel, IRC usually doesn't even have anyone in there that actually posts on 4chan, just EveryIRS in there asking obnoxious questions and Men being a retard in general.
Have been on gear for past 2 years. Blasting and cruising.
I'd say pretty moderate dosages. Youtubenatty dosages. Currently on 400test 400tren 400mast.
For about a year I noticed my pulse staying quite high. Resting pulse was at 100-110.
Met a cardiologist this week and told him about my gear usage. Instant judgement. Telling me most likely the cause of my high pulse. Everything with age faster, bones, brain, body.
I can't argue. I understand the risks associated with using and have made up my mind. Calls me stubborn, says I need to see a psychologist as I might be depressed.
Finally we agree that he will run tests on me to see whats going on and monitor me but strongly disapproves what I'm doing.
The consult honestly had me second guessing the safety of using steroids. On one hand the consensus is that they're not healthy but can be used/abused safely. On the other had you're an outright moron for using them.
My echo and stress test is on Monday.
I've been doing some reading but random forums have got me confused.
People claim that steroids take them beyond their natty limit but once they stop they go back to their max potential. So if a beginner cycled like 4 times in say 1 year went above natty limit and stopped steroids they would be at their natty limit?
>>37238915
I'm going to take a wild guess that you didn't look into supplementation at all and that you don't do cardio.
>>37238962
They would regress to whatever level their training and diet support, that is distinct from a person's "natural limit".
>>37238969
Coach pls, with the Camel man links.
>>37238969
>I'm going to take a wild guess that you didn't look into supplementation at all and that you don't do cardio.
Yes you're right about the cardio. Also I was smoking 4-5 light cigarettes for a period of 5-6 months. I quit 10 days ago and will never go back also became vegetarian 6 months ago. Otherwise no alcohol or any kind of recreational drug.
Going to start cardio but how should I go about this. I'm thinking 10 minute jog every morning and then slowly increasing as my conditioning improves?
What supplements are you talking about? Beta blockers?
>>37238962
Assuming...
>they kept training
>they ate enough
>their test didn't suppress/shut down
They would find some natural equilibrium.
>>37236655
Pressure cooker is exactly same as an autoclave according to my old microbiology professor. Just without a thermometer built in.
>>37238999
fucking hell, cardio is mandatory on roids. I am on 250mg Test e/wk and I practically got told by my TRT doc to do cardio ED
>>37239002
Autoclaves operate at higher PSI than pressure cookers typically do. Pressure cookers usually operating around 8-10 PSI and up to 15 sometimes, autoclaves operate at 18+ PSI, as that corresponds with an over 240c operating temperature, which is needed for full sterility apparently.
>>37238999
>a doctor said steroids were doing more damage than cigarettes
just fuck my shit up
>>37238969
I dislike cardio but I do circuittraining after a workout 2-3x a week.
Basically run through my entire day in 30 minutes with higher reps and rest only after finishing a set of 12+ for every exercise done that day.
I really hate it for back day because I add squats. 20 reps of rows, 20 rep squats, 20 pullups, 20 cable thingy I do for my back. Then 30 seconds of rest.
I start failing pullups in my third round but keep going until I dip below 10 reps on an exercise.
And my resting heartrate has been going down even though I pinned whenever/whatever and ran tren for 6 months straight or so while not lifting.
Still, I'm going responsible now. I'm fine with 75/200 test+tren e4d. I'll throw in some orals like msten and I'm golden.
Will likely replace tren with 1test at some point.
>>37238995
>>37239001
So if I was impatient and wanted close to the best my body could naturally maintain without 5 years of training I would just blast and cruise for a year and enjoy a just above DYEL state without injections every other day?
>>37239043
>>a doctor said steroids were doing more damage than cigarettes
>just fuck my shit up
I never mentioned the cigarettes. In regards to the steroids he said that the increase in resting pulse rate due to steroids is constantly there. Aging me faster so to speak.
I guess smoking elevates your pulse rate for a short period of time until you stop smoking your last cigarette.
Makes sense. I'm going to get some cardio in, not suck on those death sticks and go from vegetarian to vegan eventually this year.
>>37239052
I couldn't say.
I'm sure Brick or Coach will be along shortly to abuse you on your decision, however.
>>37239052
sure whatever go ahead
fuck me I'm lonely since work took over my life
talk to me fraud
>>37239038
Ah right that makes sense. At least using a pressure cooker would be better than nothing! I had a friend who used one to sterilise his glass jars etc for growing shrooms. But I suppose can't be too careful when your product is going to be injected into your/other peoples muscles
>>37239075
how you doin since the accident or whateves
it was you that got mangled in a car, right?
>>37239075
Hey bud, at least you're not 28 and only held hands before.
>>37239093
>>37239038
Just remembered that the autoclaves at my college must have been shitty, as they operated approx 115 120 degrees C. Although I guess doesn't matter for educational purposes as opposed to clinical use.
>>37239113
Hah, just barely above boiling, the fuck man.
Im about to start a12 hour shift in a ware house packing Meat while on dnp. Ill be packed up in termo clothing and several jackets because its cold in the warehouse for obvious reasons. Ill have two 30min breaks otherwisei wont have access to water.
Any advice ? Stripping a bit of the clothing off Yes, but what about dehydration ?
>>37239126
put a water bottle in your pocket
>>37239108
Fatlifts what's your state of mind like?
I'm a 22 KV and its eating me alive
Sometimes I feel happy I'm single when I see how complicated and hard the relationships of those around me can be
I still yearn for intimacy
we are just wired to want pussy and gfs
>>37239126
Bring a water bottle, jesus.
You want to die?
You could even put it in an esky (with no ice) to try and stop it freezing if that's what you're worried about.
>>37239108
maybe I am, who really knows
>>37239095
just embroiled in work, professional life blows. Got sick last week, but I'm back in the saddle as of tomorrow
>>37238995
Been busy senpai. I'll get on it when I have a chance.
>>37238999
>no supps
>no cardio
>steroids
>cigs
You're just asking to get fucked up
>>37239047
Cardio is a necessity for good health
>>37239075
Same man. Work minimum 12 hours a day now, 12 days on 2 off. Have no life and gains are suffering it feels :(
>>37239131
>>37239134
Its now allowed to eat and drink inside the facility for hygiene reasons. Its hard labour so i consider it medium level cardio since we push big trolleys stacked with Meat. I sweat quite a bit doing it when im NOT on dnp so i will be pouring today.
Drink 1.5 liter of water before and in the breaks and hope i dont pis my self ?
>>37239152
Meh, I know it is. But circuit training is fine.
I'll be rowing every other day for a year starting September.
But I could just dose aicar and gw501516. Cardio in a bottle.
>>37239163
You could smuggle in a hip flask of water or something, jesus.
Are there taps around? So you can refill it again and again as you need it.
>>37239163
Its not* sorry
>>37239133
It seems like lately I just subconsciously process everything I see, hear and do in the aspect of how it relates to relationships, developing my idea of how they function. I don't really hold out hope for getting into a relationship anymore though, I don't feel the ability or any opportunity for it to happen, it's become a curious part of life to me that I just like to think about and discuss with people when I can.
>>37239189
not sure how to respond to that constructively but I hope you get to experience a relationship
are you atleast living kinda positively now?
self improvement etc
>>37239200
I think I've been improving myself more lately, at least more than I was in the past while. Getting more into photography, cardio regularly, off roids, off recs, off alcohol, trying to get a job, etc.
>>37239212
are any of the PNW crew still there?
you should ask one of them to hang out
>>37239152
>no supps
>no cardio
>steroids
>cigs
>You're just asking to get fucked up
Yeh I know bro. I'm trying to turn this around as fast as I can.
What supps are you talking about? Things to bring heart rate down?
I do take multi + fish oil d3 daily.
>>37239075
How's all the work stuff going?
How's lifting going?
You gonna start coaching people again?
>>37239221
Only two of them even speak to me anymore, one of those being in jail, the other doesn't live anywhere near me.
>Can hear the neighbours yelling and cheering at the NRL game
>Just sitting here eating my ramen and shitposting on fraud
M-Maybe I should go be social tonight?
>>37239243
>>37239222
Telmisartan lowers BP and slightly increases endurance.
It's also a way to prevent athlete's heart.
>>37239189
Fatlifts? Really? You didn't die?
Sup.
>>37239329
Only on the inside.
Sup, I guess. You've actually been responding to my posts fairly regularly.
>>37239279
Friends come and go
>>37239342
Kek.
Was it you who I told "You care you lose/fail"?
>>37239353
But gains are 5ever.
>>37239363
Nah, that wasn't me. I'm the one that's two or three times referred to your ex as "B&W photos".
>>37239319
>Telmisartan lowers BP and slightly increases endurance.
>It's also a way to prevent athlete's heart.
Man I've been on gh15 as well and never come across this information.
I always wondered what people take to help ease the stress off the heart.
I was given Atenalol (beta blocker) to use a few months ago (helped drop my resting pulse) but the side effects weren't great. Sleeping too much, lethargic, lack of concentration.
So Telmisartan is what bodybuilders and athletes use?
What else can I do to prevent athletes heart? Thanks for replying btw!
>>37239363
>But gains are 5ever
Until you stop doing the steroid and it all goes away :^)
A shiggidy
Let's post some other great memes people believe are true
Is it OK to run my first cycle with a moderately high bf percentage? I was planning on 500 Test E/wk with 50mg DBol ED for a 12 week cycle. If I plan my meals correctly will it help me gain muscle with a minimal gain in body fat, hence reducing my bf %?
mfw selling steroids is the only thing I've been serious about in my life. I haven't started yet, since I'm still getting around to brewing the first batch, but once I'm done, I'm gonna start.
I don't know what changed with me recently. I just kind of stopped caring about following the law. I've even started shoplifting. Not even major shit, just random stuff I was thinking of getting, like vitamin pills, hair wax, airtight storage container jars etc, and shoving it in my pocket. Maybe I've just gotton too depressed with my current state of existence.
>>37239395
I would suggest you do a hard cut such as psmf
whilst doing this use 250 test which will prevent any lbm loss
then when you get to 10-12%bf then you just blast
then after that decide if you wanna pct or cruise
I understand the importance of eating clean on roids for the benefit of your own health. However, does it make a difference, both health and gains wise, if you eat carbs from processed shit food instead of stuff like rice and potatoes while on roids?
Also how much sodium do you guys think I should try to limit my intake to on 250 test and 500 tren?
>>37239407
Pretty much keto while running test then go for a mass gaining cycle?
>>37239467
Not keto, psmf
>>37239459
I think it's that glycemic index shit that you need to keep an eye on.
>>37239479
I mean lets say both sugary candy OR rice would fill my carb macros right now. What difference would it theoretically make if I ate the sugary shit?
It sounds basic but i just don't understand it, since i the way i learned was just calories in vs calories out.
>>37239490
I actually don't know why, because I never bothered to research it. But calories in calories out is mainly for weight gain or weight loss. Macros are more important for properly bulking, cutting, or recomping. And GI affects blood pressure, and cholestorol levels, whish is important when on roids.
>>37239490
Btw i also notice i feel like shit after eating "bad" carbs. Not simple, because I'm fine if i eat fruit, but by bad i mean processed shit.
>>37239319
I have 3 packs of the 40mg ones, but I think for the endurance etc benefits you need a pretty high dose right? Like 120-160 per day, as opposed to 20-40 for purely bp.
I never used them, just got them in case I fuck up with my bp.
18 years old
Mid cycle
All my friends think i'm natty
better a fake natty than a naked fatty
>>37239377
Ah fuck ofc that was you.
This one eh?
>>37239387
I came across the info almost 2 years ago. Telmisartan is like gw501516, but lowers bp more and increases endurance less. A few studies found that it prevented athlete's heart but I can't remember how.
Tbh. I run tren and gw now, will switch back to telmisartan after summer.
But telmisartan lowers bp by screwing with minerals and therefore water weighy, so if people are already eating a well balanced diet and have little excess water it won't help bp much.
Pubmed has the research iirc. And gh15 doesn't have that info because I think I was the first to find it by Wikipedia through some random linking from gw501516 which led me to all the research
>>37239459
If your sodium intake is too high balance it with potassium.
And processed stuff is usually worse than unprocessed because of salt and additives. Just fry your own potatoes and it's suddenly fine.
Skip mcd and such though
>>37239570
>>37239387
https://thinksteroids.com/steroid-profiles/telmisartan/
A little overview, nothing in depth of course
>>37239506
It's only a few % up to 10 in the research and more of a side effect so it shouldn't be noticeable.
Stack it with modafinil which is a stimulant but they've got no clue how it works, it's also known to increase endurance by 10% or so. And it's pretty much side effect free and you don't feele it working at all.
>>37239570
Your ex is beautiful
no wonder she had your shit all fucked up
>>37239585
In conclusion, anti-hypertensive treatment with telmisartan for 24 weeks produced significant reductions in blood pressure and regression of LVH, as assessed by LVMI, in patients with hypertension and LVH.
And that's one of 4 with one still going showing a significant reduction in lvh in all patients.
that feel when unwanted attention from other guys when on nights out
i never asked for this feel, my dyel friend can go an entire night out without any strangers talking to him, whereas i get randoms coming up to me all the time
>>37239594
I love moda, you really don't feel it at all most of the time. Sometimes on an empty stomach I feel a bit of a speed like buzz, but I really feel it when I go to sleep to soon after a dose, heart beating fast, pupils don't get used to darkness at all, can not sleep.
But so good for learning.
>>37239585
>>37239570
Thanks!
I'm going to get tests done with my cardiologist before I ask for Telmisartan.
Even my GP told me to stop the atenolol at least 10 days before seeing the cardiologist.
I'm sitting at my desk right now on the computer for the past 1 hour and my pulse is 103.
>>37239612
This is my latest date.
And I've got at least 2 more where only details are left to discuss. But this one is good crazy. Love it.
One insisted, I dated her friend for like a week and she introduced us, that we weren't going for a date. She just wanted to explore a city. With a guy. 3 years older or more. Who is taller than she is.
Definitely not dating.
She's 175cm so the height sortof makes sense.
>>37239618
tfw kids want to take pics with you when you are out shopping, drunk guys want to talk to you, drunk grills molest you and slap your ass as if you were a piece of meat.
grills go for my ass and legs, dudes for my arms
>>37239640
>NOTADATE Girl.
Heh.
Cane off dnp today after 3 weeks because of sides. After it leaves my system should I eat at maintenance for 2-3 days to replenish glycogen or should I just keep cutting until I'm done with the cut?
>>37239645
where do you live notop?
>>37239655
on a harsh cut glycogen will be depleted anyway, if you are not on huge doses of deca or something.
If you do a slow cut, sure.
>>37239474
OK I researched psmf. I'm doing 5/3/1 right now, do you think I should maybe switch to a different routine while doing PSMF.
>>37239666
You arent going to be able to do much at all on psmf
probably go the gym twice a week three times at most
do a few compound movements heavy low reps
then gtfo
>>37239662
alright that's pretty much what i figured. just tired of looking like SHIT from dnp. fuck it i'll just keep cutting then
>>37239682
Got it. Thanks man.
Whats /roid/s opionion on serms? I'm thinking about giving them a shot as my first "cycle".
>>37239766
Expensive, worse sides. Just use test E.
>>37239766
Shit. SARMS*
>>37236453
i've been doing a little bit of research and the only side effects that i simply cannot have is the downtrodden cardio. any possible recs that will not affect my running time or somewhere in between?
>>37239640
man, are you just extremely handsome or super fucking jacked and shredded jeff seid tier?
>>37239766
stop wasting your and our time
>>37239799
or you're just ugly and too afraid to talk to girls
you can never mentioned that name over here again.
those instagram pics and videos make you fucking delusional af
>>37239894
>those instagram pics and videos make you fucking delusional af
>or you're just ugly and too afraid to talk to girls
Replied to the wrong person? Because i have no idea what you mean by all this (no offense)
>>37239910
No, i replied to you. You look up to some girly faggots, that are beta just like you, but trying to cover it up with muscles and roids. Like zyzz and that other faggot
what are you so fucking soft man up. Girls want alpha man, not a fairy named tinkerbell
and second, people who get enough affection dont have to share it over here, because it's not special to them.
>>37239113
121c for 15 minutes is fine and is standard.
I'll be away from my test for 6 days, can I eat some dbol or var to make up for it or does it not matter
>>37239657
Netherlands, near the Belgian border.
Why?
>>37239941
Im confused.
NotOp seems to slay lotta pussy, so i asked him if he's a naturally handsome guy, or if he is ugly but gets puss because he has some Jeff Seid tier body.
Yeah i know its faggy and yes i cover it up with muscles.
When you are a beta sperg all your life and finally have a nice body, you wonder if it will do any good with dating and fucking sloots.
But what the fuck am i supposed to do else? I cant do much about my looks except build a nice body, cut my hair and get nice clothes.
>>37240058
I was unaware
you should meet up with MasT
>>37240071
You'll get there, masT seems to want to make himself feel better by acting 'alpha' on the internet
I truly believe people who act like that are insecure and want to make themselves feel better by getting attention aka sluts
>>37240058
he want to take pictures from you and ask for your signature
>>37240071
Why do you bother to ask such questions? He's probably not ugly, otherwise he wasn't able to do, the things he would do.
>or if he is ugly but gets puss because he has some Jeff Seid tier body
when does this meme end? This social media is really getting you schizofrenic to the point you should seek profession help
>But what the fuck am i supposed to do else
1.Stop idiolizing some faggots from the internet. expiernce FROM real life, is more useful
2.indeed get nice hair and get nice clothes.
3. downgrade your standards regarding to woman, if you're really shitty looking
4. be extremly funny and outgoing, but that's probably harder to achieve
5. upgrade your dick to bbc level
Nobody cares about muscles if you're ugly. Yes, it will upgrade your appearance with some subtle points if you're attractive already.
>>37240111
>You'll get there
This is the most useless, cringy, corny thing to say. Just say nothing or throw your pc out of the window would be much better to safe yourself from the cringe you're spreading.
You would probably say the same fucking sentence to someone who's terminally ill.
YOU WILL GET THERE BRO, JUST GET SOME CONFIDENCE BRO
we will all make it. Get a fucking grip
1v1 irl and i will bash your teeth into 9000 pieces. After that you will only able to fuck black transexiual woman
>>37240111
Mast doesn't even know what mast is talking about half the time. He's an eternal shitposter I wouldn't take anything seriously
Just got sustanon 250 mg into my ass, what am i in for?
>>37240187
why do people use sust? it just seems like the worst option for test
>>37240171
> you'll get there
It's called being positive, what's wrong with that instead of saying shit about someone trying to better themselves, fucking hell mate id say get off your high horse but you'd probably fucking die from the great fall
I hope your horse runs into the sea and it can't swim and you can't swim cos you're leaning forward too much trying to out angle the horse because you're so alpha and won't be defeated
>>37240221
my doctor made the decision, did a bloodtest, and the results shower i had enough testo, but i insisted and he said fine
>>37240171
I feel like you may be the pigeon that just flew into my window
this bb is 18 years old.
holy shit
>>37240244
Where is the constructiveness? You think that he doesn't hear that worthless sentence all the time?'' you will get there man''. ''get some confidence bro''. we gonna make it bro. But you and me both know where it's gonna end eventually
just think it about it for 10 seconds and try to rationlize about it. Then you might see it as cringy&worthless, nor that it won't help anybody.
i can't be defeated. how can you kill that which has no life? jokes on you my internet friend
>>37240257
i would smash through your window and shit all over you
>>37240246
how often does he have you injecting? sust should be injected like every 2 or 3 days
>>37240327
1 time a month he says he will do it 3 time and check my blood again.
I told him like 250mg is nothing, and that some dude would inject 500 like every 3 day he told me "yeah but these guy are fucking crazy you have to stay safe"
my ass hurt btw
>>37240327
e10d
>>37240340
>have high enough test
>show drugseeking behavior
>still get trt prescribed
where the hell do you live
>>37240340
>"yeah but these guy are fucking crazy you have to stay safe"
This bro. My cardiologist STRONGLY discouraging me from continuing to use gear.
>>37240359
belgium, i work out since a year with a good diet but i'm skinny fat and have very low strenght
he wouldnt do it first, he asked if i have strenght, i said no but he wouldnt trust me, so he said "lets do arm wrestling", we did, and he said "yeah you have no strenght" lol
he's a nice guy willing to help, im 22 with like no beard and stuff he see the despair in me
>>37239490
Sugary candy would spike your insulin more, leading to more energy being allocated to anabolism - whether it be adipose or muscle tissue.
after having 400ng/dl test levels over the past couple years I've decided to take 200mg test a week (probably closer to 250mg, I tend to draw a bit extra into the syringe since I figure it's probably underdosed).
Should I be taking my aromasin? I have some on hand that I'm saving for my upcoming blast but I'm 15 days into my test cycle and haven't really felt anything... actually, I feel more sluggish than when I started. Do I need the AI? I don't want to risk fucking up my system more than it already is.
>>37240310
You do make some valid points, fair enough. You might even make it too you know masT
> 18
nahhhhhhh, I wonder what he's running
>>37240340
nigga sust injected once a month is just gonna fuck you up
>>37240368
underrated post. This might be in like top 5 all time tbtrill
>>37240426
explain?
>>37239799
Neither. But apparently women can smell the crazy and some like it.
That, and I somehow have a "gift". I am not attracted to women who are not interested at all.
Girls are easy though, fucks sake I got one to sleep with me by going "you like me, don't you." No. "Yeah you do." Repeat for a while, playfully. Took maybe a week.
I don't date much and haven't slept with anyone for a while because of ex but.... Can't NOT try to get this girl. Rich, impulsive, hot, crazy and smart.
With a hint of innocence. Yum.
>>37239941
Yeah. Thing is though I haven't been dating or hooking up for months. And the girls before that were all random friends of friends.
So this whole thing is kinda new to me. Started as a joke to check out my new city. Ended up being awesome.
I wasn't expecting the attention. I'm pretty closed off when not on drugs and when on I have other priorities. Like hugging everyone. I can approach most girls, but I look "scary" and distant to most.
Also, I grew up and got older and I'm definitely going into low bf, cut face territory now. Probably doesn't hurt.
>>37240443
Sust should be injected ED if you're gonna take it.
>>37240462
well, i dont have acces to it anyway, he gave me a paper to go and buy the next injection but i cant get it until 15/6
i trust him hes like the best doctor, he says i would see the result so i'm just waiting now
>>37240171
1. Done.
2. Done.
3. No need
4. Not needed per se. But it attracts certain types.
5. No need. Heh. But this isn't what gets you laid. It's what keeps them coming, heh, back.
Also ew. Black. And transsexual? Kill me now pls. One is bad enough.
>>37240422
I have to intention to bully, but i don't see the point of saying such things when we both know it won't do shit, pretty much. I say that, because i expiernce it all the time myself. He will find it out himself, nobody can help him but himself. We can only show him the door.
lmao 18 years old. i need to up the dose, take it to the next level.
he makes us look like nattys
>>37240447
I respect your honesty
we all gonna make it bro
>>37240470
He's not the best doctor if he wants you on sust e10d. There's prop and pprop in there.
I've got 5 amps left.
Ask for nebido or for a minimum of 100mg/week. The issue is mostly that 250 e10d is fine for trt. But not 250 sust. Take sust eod or so. 50mg at a time.
General question:
When did you "know" you wanted to use roids to progress further?
Everyone in here seems happy as fuck to be on juice yet other threads are just people moaning about shit.
>>37236479
Lmao why would anyone fund a well set up rigorous study aimed at fertility of steroid users. I agree that evidence is anecdotal but saying just because the evidence doesn't exist yet a link between steroid use and fertility doesn't exist is just as hypocritical.
>>37240479
That is one ugly overcompensating motherfucker....
Kek. We're not. If I'm not dead by 30 something is wrong.
>>37240470
I don't know exactly how much he's giving you, but Sust 250 e21d (Which is the maximum time you can use on steroidgraph) looks like the top pic, whereas a quarter of the dosage, EOD looks like the bottom. You can see why injecting once a month is absurd on that compound.
>>37240508
>That is one ugly overcompensating motherfucker...
how is that overcompensating? I could say that the same thing about your rec drugs use.
prejudicing is and always will be a big issue. He might just do it, because it's his passion. Not everyone lifts for girls
>>37240529
this shit too complicated for me lol, i'm not getting all the shit i want i had to insist so yeah i'm gonna be on 250mg a month for now
>>37240537
Bodybuilding hasn't been for aesthetics since the 80s. And it's overcompensating because he's ugly.
Man, the guy looks like a fully roided up dwarf with down syndrome.
Regardless, if it makes him happy... That's fine.
I do drugs because they're fun. And because life would be less fun without them. Or to not be bored.
I don't drink much or need drugs when going out and rarely used them (4 times) outside of a setting with friends.
I'm more likely to take something like mdma when I'm with a lot of friends than I would with 2 others at a festival or something.
Overcompensating for not being able to do what I want, when I want it, all the time. Maybe..
>>37240560
Basically, imagine you're driving a car. Instead of driving between 60-80 mph down a motorway constantly, you're driving 80mph for a few minutes, then stopping for an hour, then driving for 80mph again for a few minutes, and repeating.
How can a poor autist source decent test?
I'm low (>400) but not low enough that they'll give TRT. Please, I want to make it.
>>37240560
Ask for nebido or testoviron.
>>37240578
More like normal is 80/h, but for him it's 200 for 5 minutes and 10 for 55m.
>>37240171
Im the guy you replied to.
Well i certainly dont expect miracles from lifting/my body. People might think you are an asshole, but what you say is (unfortunately) true to some extent.
I dont think im shitty looking. My face isnt UGLY imo, my frame isnt goofy looking or stuff.
But at the same time i realize that im not special or actually attractive either. Im rather average/boring.
And i try to to be more special/outstanding from the public by achieving a 10/10 physique.
pic related is my current body.
Note i have only been lifting for lmao10 months.
I do understand what you mean.
>Dont expect a miracle, give all you have, disregard other fags
>>37240584
Pin deca once. Go back in.
Or pin test once, go back in 2 weeks later.
