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/fraud/

>>37037292

/r/steroids wiki for beginners
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>>37044112

>You can do a LOT more fucking work than you >think you can with roids. They aren't magic >but a good diet and good programming you >can skip the first 6-8 months of lifting in about >3 months. It's not all about numbers either. >You're going to be putting on a fuck ton more >volume with roids than a standard 5x5 noob ?split. I think you're talking out of your ass desu >senpai.
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>>37044192
Try again m8
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>>37044203

What I like arrows fight me.
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does oral tren suck out subq water akin to tren or will i be better off with winny?
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Hey, how come people don't have dip for dinner? Why's it only a snack, why can't it be a meal, you know?
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>>37044158
>Does being above average really matter? Experiment edition
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>>37044414
I eat hummus as a meal all the time
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i bought a "beginner mass building" cycle from this website and its 200 mg deca for 10 weeks

4th week i start taking 20 mg of Anabol daily till the 10th week

5th week i start taking 10 mg nolvadex till the 12th week
I also bought some Clomy just in case i need it but do you guys think I'll make some gains with this? This is my first cycle I'm 19 and hoping for minimum sides.
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> it's midnight
> cougar wants to fuck right now
> cougar wants to meet at a closed Starbucks
> cougar is married

Eh... should I?
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>>37044414
Veggies and garlic hummus is a legit meal.
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damn I just want to be shredded already
how much is liposuction

>>37044466
>minimum sides
>avoids test
gr8 b8 m8

>>37044496
damn first trannies now cougars how do you do it so fast
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>>37044466
No, just no. Go look at the /r/steroids wiki to get started.
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>>37044512
Dnp for sick shreds m8
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>>37044496
Nope
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>>37044519
>>37044512
ok but since I already bought that and can't refund it should i just buy 24 ampules of Test e and do that with the clomid afterwards and sell the deca and dbol at my gym or should i save them for after my test cycle?
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>>37044466
The fuck would you not run test
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>>37044530
nah I;m over dnp

>>37044541
could still do the dbol I guess
but youd need an actual ai
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>>37044425
>>37044510
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>>37044545
I literally just got the beginner cycle and it wasn't included. It doesnt matter though I'm ordering test rn and wondering what would be the smartest thing to do with the dbol and deca I'm getting. Run it along side? save it for later? sell it?
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Here's the plan
>massive first dose cycle
>at least 500mg testE/wk
>no pct
>crash my endocrine systsm
>with no survivors
>get bloodwork
>hop on dat dere prescription trt
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>>37044572
Why get prescription TRT? Shit may be more expensive than the amateur route.

200mg a week for 52 weeks = 10,400mgs
1 bottle of test E = 2500mg = $25
$25x4 = $100
Blood work (assuming your state is allowed) = $65 x 4 times a year

$360 a year to do TRT for a year. Almost no one needs an AI at that dose, either.
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>>37044572
do you even have low test
why would you trt
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Anyone here try gear made with MCT oil? Anything unusual compared to grapeseed, like taking much longer for it to absorb or an allergic reaction?
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>>37044610
>Why get prescription TRT?

Simple possession of gear is a felony in the USA m8
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Running first cycle now at 500mg test e/wk and 50mg dbol/ED. .25mg Adex EOD. Definitely a lot of water weight into week 3. Lifts going up incredibly though. Was lifting natty for 3 years prior. No on/off bullshit.

I'm guessing E2 is fine, since sex feels amazing and orgasms are insane. Only issue I'm havin is water weight. I hate feeling bloated.

Should I continue to run the Adex even after I finish the dbol in week 6? It'll be a 12 week cycle total. I also have a lot more test e than is needed for 500mg/EW for 12 weeks, so I was thinking about upping it to 750mg EW after week 6? What do you guys think?
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>>37044561
>need an actual ai
No at that low of a dose. I guess it really depends on how he reacts to it. I can do 100mg dbol ed for a few weeks and not get estro sides. That much would give lots of people some itchy nips at the least
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>>37044572
literally not worth it m8
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>>37044685
This is true. But I've worked in LE before and I've seen very few people in my area get busted for it. And I feel like they don't target it/care as much about it as they do other narcotics and CDS
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>>37044512

Can you believe this trap unmatched me when I said "I don't mind if you have a penis".

>>37044636

I believe it's superior.
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>>37044685
While true, it's basically without risk. You buy it, and if you aren't signing for it upon delivery, you are in the clear. Then it never leaves your house.
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>>37044692
dbol is pure water weight, you'll lose a ton once you stop
you'll still need adex after, butless

just go longer

>>37044704
>100mg ed
literally how

but its his first cycle, he needs ai on hand
he doesnt know what the fuck he's doin

>>37044724
they sound pretentious
they didn't deserve to be sucked off
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>>37044631
Last blood work I got was 250ng/dL and 600 ng/dL or whatever the proper units are. That was a while back and I couldn't convince my new GP to run bloods, something about insurance. Guess I need to be more vocal about my symptoms.
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>>37044724
Thing is, they usually mind that they have a penis... even if it's feminine.
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>>37044724
eszra whowhat tweets what the fuk does this mean? roaches?
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>>37044748
no they just never give out trt because test is the devil
should have asked for estrogen you would've gotten tons

just self medicate m8
docs can suck a dick not worth the trouble
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>>37044793
Aight I'll do more research on trt dosing and probably do that. I'm tired of feeling like shit all the time. Maybe blast every once in a while with ais
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>>37044805
100mg got me to 800ng/dl felt way better than when I was low test, can start there, experiment around 200mg even

And the best part is its super easy to blast here and there
I've been on roids what, 4+ years?
Ive done 3 blasts lol
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>>37044844
What kinds of ais do you keep on hand? Or pharmaceuticals in general?
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>>37044844
Only three? What the fuck, jerry
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>>37044872
the last one was the only one I didnt blow a joint out on

>>37044867
I prefer adex, so I have 2 packages of pharma adex on hand
I think I have a lil asin?
a full pct
lots of nolva
some proviron
some estradiol pills lol
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whats the best place to get mk 677?
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>>37044939
Brickhouse labs
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>>37044636
I brew with MCT
Crystal clear and the oil is very thin
I like it
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>>37044911
Thanks jerry. So what's your plan if you ever have to hope off your trt doses?
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>>37044950
Yeah I hear he's actually on fraud too :^)
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>>37044512
why are you always cutting jerry?
dont be afraid to bulk
no wonder u always complain about being small..
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>>37044950
Isn't he a scammer
>>37045006
Ebin
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Man you guys have gotten shittier at starting threads.
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>>37044466
The fuck?

You should not be fucking asking these questions whilst on fucking cycle.

You should know every fucking in and out of steroids before even looking to buy any.
I've been on fraud for like a year. Still don't want to touch any gear
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>>37045013
This tb.h
For ages I was doing like a month and a half bulks then feeling too fat and cutting again
Finally committed to just getting big and fat then lean later
Put on more mass these three months than the last year
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>>37045036
Then you're a pussy
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>>37045013
cause im fat
>1 week of pmsf
>already being bulllied for cutting too long

>>37045002
pct I guess, tis why I have it on hand
then get back on asap lol
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>>37045054
Pussy who doesn't blow a few hundred dollars on fucking deca for no reason and fucks up his endocrine system.
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>>37045058
it not that u cutting for long but you cut too often
either u bulking too hard and gaining too much fat quickly or your cutting too early
count calories eat 500 cal surplus on blast like pastebin recommend
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Does Deca actually help your tendons and joints or does it just make them feel better?
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>>37045088
and stick to bulk for 6 month or so
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>>37045058
See
>>37045041
In BB you have to look shit before you can look good
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>>37045060
Yeah It took me about 2.5 years before I got on 5 weeks ago. I'm glad I waited because I actually know how to program effectively and I'm not blowing $280 for no reason. plus im 25 now so I don't worry about fucking my developing shit up.
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>>37045060
I'm not that guy lmao
If you've lurked for a year without hopping on for any reason other than money you're a pussy
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>>37045097
The latter
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>>37045060
Also I found out I respond to Dbol very well and hardly aromatize. Also I've hardly had to use any AI on cycle which is baller because it means not very much is aromatizing as well.
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>>37045130
Anything out there to help tendons?
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>>37045149
GH/peptides
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>>37045183
Anything that won't send me bankrupt?
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>>37045215
Peptides
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>>37045088
>bulk, then cut
>hur go read the sticky
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>on tren
>get unavoidable water retention, shin splints, occasional nipple pain, mild-moderate sleep issues
>no matter what brand of pharma caber I do
>go on test only, even 1.5g
>no sides

I miss the benefits of tren, fuck life.
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>>37045294
Trenpp
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>>37045294
what dose of tren/test were you running?
try low test with mid tren if you havent already, seems to be tolerated the best by most
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>>37045388

200test-800tren.

now doing 1.5g test on bulk and 750 on cut(with dnp).

trens expensive anyways combined with fucking caber.
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I don't look wide today and I feel weak af

I'm gonna get a few heavy lifts in and then go get some food. I actually fasted from 8am to 8:30.
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>>37045088
No for real though I appreciate you trying to help but telling me to read the sticky made me so mad

I've been lifting for almost a decade I know what I'm doing
I just need functioning joints

>>37045416
Wow a while 30 mins how did you survive
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>>37045449
*pm tho

Can someone please explain this frog on a unicycle meme
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>>37045416
>shoulder span 3x waist
>I feel small
M8 ur dysmorphia is showing
I have a 32 inch waist and I'm fat af atm but the fact I look better than most people keeps my ego high
Is this whats in store for my future, increasing displeasure with my physique?
Roid life's a hard life
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>>37045464
Look at how wide my waist looks.
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My buddy swears by Vit B6 for tren
then again he never goes above 500mg

I'm ordering some tren and I want to test it out for the first 2 weeks and see how the nips fair lol. I'll have caber on hand just in case
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>>37045477
I'm gonna slapbox you
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>>37045540
I never got prolactin sides even on 1g/wk
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>>37044158

Going to start a first cycle, what do you's think?

>Week 1-6 Dbol 30mg ED
>Week 1-15 Test E 500mg E3D
>Week 16-17 Nothing, let the testosterone begin to clear out
>Week 18-19 Nolvadex 40mg per day
>Week 19-20 Nolvadex 20mg per day

Do I need an A.I on hand?
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>>37045477
Look how gay your nipper ring looks
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>>37045564
Duder you're not gonna make me feel insecure about having these bros pierced.
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>>37045561
>Gram of test + dbol
>do I need AI
Bruh...
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>>37045564
Why are you looking at his nips fagit
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>>37045564
Why are you faggots so insecure? Seriously grow the fuck up and stop looking for excuses to put down someone who looks way better than you
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>>37045579
how old?
why did you do it?
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>>37045600
Dubs are now called "jerrbears" mirin jerrbears
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>>37045561
>>37045595

I meant inject E3D, 500mg a week

So during the dbol I stay wary otherwise I'm good past week 7?
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>>37045619
You should always run AI, just be especially careful on dbol because it aromatizes into a potent super estrogen
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>>37045561
yes you'll need an AI on hand, theres no way to know how your body will react
some people need letro ED on their cruise and others can blast dbol and 1test without a problem
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>>37045610
Jerrbears fl gf
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>>37045628
>>37045631

Thanks boys

Only take the ai if I experience the sides correct?
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>>37045642
I'm glad u knew where I was headed
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>>37045658
No, don't risk it with dbol. Start at a low dose as soon as you start dbol.
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>>37045666
Satan Jerrbears, all for fl
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So do all you faggots blast and cruise? I did a cycle a while back then went through some shit, stopped working out and lost everything.

Should I just do a couple cycles again first before considering B/C or just jump on?
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>>37044496
morally? no
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>>37045658
start low, taper up is what I did. Crashing you e2 FUCKING SUCKS. I started off aromasin 12 EOD and my e2 had to be like fucking .0001. I was miserable.

Look up side of high and low e2, start out at like 3.25 ED or 6.5 ED and taper up if you notice high side and vice versa. Trust me aromatization problems aren't just gonna sneak up on you in one day, you'll generlly see them coming,

I'm pretty fucking overweight by any standards and I only run 3.25 ED or EOD otherwise my e2 is in the dumper and I'll be a moody little non boner having dry lipped bitch if I run 12.5 EOD or even EOOD.

(running same cycle as you except dbol week 1-4 test 300 E3D)
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>>37045672
Dbol is not that fucking bad. If you're aromatizing heavily just stop taking it and use the approiate amount of AI. It's not rocket science.
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>>37045694
ppl like u make me sad bcos im skinny as fuck and need 6.25mg pharma letro ED on 200mg test
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>>37045679
Yeah bro hop back on, follow this blast for the sickest gainz
2g test (no AI)
60mg sdrol
50mg injectable winstrol into each muscle before you train it
4 shots vodka each night to build up a "liver tolerance" that protects your liver from the orals
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>>37045713
>6.25mg Pharma letro ed

m8 I'm the fattest cunt on the most gear here and I only take a max of 1.25mg eod if I'm really feeling the feminine burn
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>>37045713
I shit you not I'm 30% BF and I hardly aromatized 50mg of overdosed Dbol a day plus the 700 test EW. Don't worry I'm ugly as sin though so you have that on me. It's ok I plan to decrease my bodyfat through stricly gaining muscle and not worrying about fat some I'm gonna be like a 400 lb 30% fat gorilla.
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>>37045723
>le ebin troll
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>>37045713
What the actual fuck. I use 1.25 ed on 2.5g test.
You sure you aren't using aromasin (1/4 of 25mg is 6.25)
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>>37045742
Nah I'am full serious

I never had better gains in my life, pure insanity
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>>37045477
I hate you bimbo
Shut the fuck up
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>>37045743
yeah I'm sure
i was actually using aromasin before (25mg pharma 2x/day) but switched to letro because it was getting too expensive
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>>37045804
Sorry about your genetics bro
>>37045793
Fuck outta here jealous faggot
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>>37045793
Woa there fite me tuff pup
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This fuckin guy
https://youtu.be/GeabWlmsFY4
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>>37045477
I know high shouder to waist ratio is supposed to be cool, but this looks too disproportionate, or maybe is the pose? are those adobegainz? You're crossing the line bimbo..
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>>37045804
Try more test. 200 clearly isn't working
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>>37045901
Adobegainz?
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>>37045901
His naturally small waist and undeveloped obliques add to the illusion. He's posted a ton of pics and his core always looks the same, doubt he could shop it that accurately every time. High lats also play a part.
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>>37045845
Anon is right I'm jelly af

Stfu w that wide waist shit, you're genetically blessed faggot. You sound like a skinny hot chick complaining "oh my gawddd im sooo fatttt" when they're not at all
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>>37045927
I think the other anon is right though. It's not that I'm wide, just an underdeveloped core. I was taking some pics earlier and either I can't pose for shit or I look weird af. Probably a little of both.

That pic is also crazy fasted with no pump so I could just be feeling the bd. Regardless I need to hit core more. What do you guys recommend for core work?
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>>37045945
Hanging leg raises and dumbell side bend
Go easy on the side bends or you'll end up blocky and gross
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>>37045956
What weight do you like on side bends? I used to do them with 100s.
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>>37045956
Don't listen to this fag, do lots of side bends, your body could really benefit from them. At this stage you won't get blocky, just more proportionate
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When you guys run a typical cycle or a moderate blast, do you run nolva and/or an ai the whole way to be safe?
Done research on all parts of the roid process but this is what always gets me
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>>37045962
20kg each side
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>>37045987
AI yes nolva no
Nolva is for PCT or gyno reversal only
And ralox is better for gyno
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>mfw I would've gotten laid tonight if I had a car

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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>>37046010
>what is uber
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>>37045998
Sounds about right.
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>>37046010
I could be getting laid just about every night if I could afford to go to the club all the time, lost my job and neet life tho :^)
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Do student loans pay for living expenses?

About to say fuck it and plunge into decades of debt to get a shot at going to uni w all the babes and people my age, as well as getting a career in a profession I actually like
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>>37046030
Hmm, ya maybe.

It's probably too late now. I get too assertive on hexen, lel
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>>37045674
What is this Jerrbears all of a sudden.
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>>37046055
I've got 5g of hex-en on the way. Youre the first fraudster I've seen who's into RCs
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>>37046110
Jerrbears FL gf
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>>37046118
Close, but no jerrbears
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>>37046110
So close to jerrbears jerrbears I get a committed slut
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>>37046126
Rolling jerrbears FL gf
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>>37046118
I don't know what is Jerrbears.
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>>37046129
You hardly need jerrbears for that though, don't be wasteful.

I need all the jerrbears I can get.
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>>37046130
>>37046129
Not even in the bearpark

Jerrbears checkum
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>>37046113
have you used it before?
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>>37046129
Are dub jerrbears quints or is jerrbear jerrbears?
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lol wtf

steroidlets containment thread is weird af

lmao x
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>>37046130
Jerrbears FL is bimbos gf
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>>37046146
Why be normal when you can be you?
Embrace your strange

lamo x
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>>37046145
Jerrbears to the second power so u just type "jerrbears^2"
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rolling king of games jerrbears
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>>37046146
We have wierd days
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>>37046155
JERRBEAR ALERT
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>>37046155
JERRBEARS YUGI
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>>37046155
Fuck.Yes.
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>>37046152
haha you're totally right

normies a shit xx
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>>37046155
HOUSTON WE HAVE JERRBEARS
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This is way more entertaining than point break
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>>37046142
Nah not yet.
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>>37046189
youre more entertaining than point break bimbo
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>>37046194
it's like baby cocaine
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>>37046189
The OG or shit remake
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>>37046189
Keanu?
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>>37046189
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>>37046189
Drunk point break is one of my favorite movies

If Keanu was here he would roll jerrbears and ride off into the sunset, Busey in tow
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>>37046200
Yeah that's what ive heard. How's the comedown?
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>>37046201
The not so stellar remake
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>>37046212
Not too bad. Tried 4f-mph and that has a terrible comedown. You feel the urge to redose on hex, some people with poor self control can use a shit ton in one night.
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>>37046219
Ew.
God fuck why
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>>37046220
Nice,pretty keen to try it. Why a wed/thurs though?
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>>37046219
It's not too bad if you never watched the original
It does get a bit environmental and preachy

Should have called it something other than point break and changed the names of the characters
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>>37046253
I actually haven't seen the original
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>>37046247
wed/thurs? what?
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>>37046208
I would fuck this
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>>37046253
They didn't even bother with any punctuation on the quotes section of IMDB on that movie.

>Your going to steal it
>No were going to give it back
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>>37046260
Its Wednesday/Thursday depending where you live, how come you're doing drugs and trying to hook up on a weeknight?
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>>37046258
Oh hellll no.
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>>37046258
I would recommend it 2bh
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>>37046265
I found that damaging my brain with copious amounts of drugs made me overanalyze things less and thus be happier. You could probably try suffocating yourself a bit, that would work too.
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>>37046258
I've never even heard of this movie
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>>37046283
Hm, drugs are meh. I usually stay up this late.

Hook up would've happened if I had been smarter about it, and I would've just called in sick lol
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>>37046295
This is really the key to success
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>>37046295
I've damaged my brain with drugs enough already.
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>>37046303
It's pretty good. 7.5/10 on imbd or w/e
If you like movies I would say go watch it
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>>37046318
Are we talking about interstellar?
Or it's literally called stellar?
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>>37046321
Point break
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>>37046321
I'm always talking about Interstellar.
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>>37046323
oh I totally misread the thread then

Haven't watched point break tho, may as well download it

>>37046330
meta as fuck
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>>37046258
It's Grade-A B movie corn

>>37046303
You probably couldn't see it over the counter. They keep the adult movies back there
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>>37045561
greg is definitely juicing right?
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>cutting from 15.5% bf
>doing 250mg dnp and eating 1k calories a day
>down to 12.1%
>i will be 7% bf in less than three weeks at this rate

come at me brah

any tips so that i don't die?
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>>37046423
Don't do heroic doses of stimulants and chill in a sauna
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so I know I'm late to the party but just saw the episode of Rick and Morty where Rick and the sister become /fraud/s and beat the shit out of people to DMX

Holy fuck this is my new favorite show Kek
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>>37045945
>>37045962

this is what happens when you don't lift heavy shit

>>37046423

do 600mg, psmf, and 1.5-2h of liss a day instead

>>37046498

"What is my purpose?"
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>>37046533
>do 600mg, psmf, and 1.5-2h of liss a day instead

i wanted to do extreme shit like this but I have college finals so I need to retain at least some functionality
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>>37046533
"you serve butter"

... Oh my god
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>>37046533
JERRBEARS

Also I need to bring up my traps
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>>37046533
>>37046542
I have a wallpaper of the robot looking depressed with that conversation quoted on it
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>>37046533
What shows do you watch? Somehow don't think you're the game of thrones type
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>>37046541
>i wanted to do extreme shit like this but I have college finals so I need to retain at least some functionality

>implying I don't have to do the exact same shit

>>37046542

"Where are my testicles, Summer?"

>>37046543

deads and kroc rows brotato

>>37046559

archer, blacklist, limitless, house of cards, luther (holy shit idris elba), daredevil/jessica jones/etc netfix marvel shit, mr robot, rick and morty, vikings, and yes game of thrones

strike back season 2-5 was totally my shit, their advisors deserve giant golden fucking thrones for getting all of the gear and weapons manipulation right, first show like that where my brain didn't start automatically nit-picking every fucking flaw to death
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>been a fat fuck all my life
>decide to work out and get some muscles
>Strength goes through the roof but I'm still fatter than unholy hell
>decide to start cutting and have lost just at 60 pounds
>today decide I'll try out a cycle because I love watching numbers go up on my PRs
>check my BF% for the first time in ages
>23%

Christ just fucking kill me I am so fat
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>>37046616
Just cut hard for a bit. You can make it mate
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>>37046612
I thought you said they were robots, Rick!

It's a figure of speech, Morty! They're beurocrats; I don't respect them!
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>>37046616
Cut atleast 10%bf more before you think about a cycle fatty.. Good job so far though
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>>37046642
>>37046627

Thanks that's why I'm asshurt about it. I know gotta get below at least 15% before otherwise it's gyno city.
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>>37046642
Damn you'd hate me then.
I jumped on at 40%
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>>37046616
Hop on dnp for a few weeks, there's a lot of meming but you can juice at 15% without too much aromatization.
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>>37046654
FL?
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>>37046652
Cut hard
Think of the end goal
Go for it mate
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>>37045902
I tried a 500mg test blast once; gyno, massive water bloating to the point I had pitting edema in my lower legs, cystic acne everywhere and uncontrollable crying were the result.
My body is very estrogen dominant for some reason.
Thinking of just dropping test altogether and running mast + preg. Anyone know if this is a bad idea?
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>>37046657

I've been on the DNP train on and off. I've dropped the 60 pounds in about 3 months. I was at 280 as a 6'4" guy. I'm currently on day 7 at 500mg. Shit does work miracles for sure.
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>>37046663
2.0
>minus heart palpitations.
>aryan genes edition
Getting 6 week bloods done next week.
DNP comes in week after next, been running a 1500 cal broccoli and chicken breast + multivit diet going to add 250 DNP ED for as long as I can stand (probably 2 weeks). Then back to just deficit
Then refeed and blast test e 750 EW + 50mg dbol ED.

Here we go lads.
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>>37046652
Gyno isn't a concern for everyone (mine is no worse despite fatasfatass). Regardless of how it manifests, you'll be popping ai like candy to manage e2

That's just not healthy long term imo.

>>37046678
Anything other than test will put your general health in a spiral. Yolo became exponentially more retarded after a few months of just Tren. Were you low test? Might as well just transition and be a beautiful butterfly if so
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>>37046678
Obviously 200mg puts you into supraphysiological levels. You didn't have estro sides natty so just find a dose that's equivalent to your natural production and use tren, anadrol and other non aromatizing compounds for mass.
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>>37046654
I don't hate you, I just think you're a pathetic piece of lard.
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>>37046709
You're not wrong, give me like 6 months I'll make you proud dad.
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>>37046697
How low do you think I can drop my test to before I fuck my general health? I feel like popping Letro everyday for the rest of my life is probably more unhealthy than no test.
Yeah I was low test, in fact I never really went through puberty until I started pinning T. I bet a endo or two would love to study my fucked up HPTA.
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>work night shifts
>cafeteria food is literal cancer that has no taste or quality, a refugee would throw it in the trash bin
>My delicious porkchops/chicken/home pizzas with vegetables turn into shit if I make it in advance then microwave afterwards
>only grocery here, microwave meals taste like shit(no surprise), the fresh breads gone, sandwiches are overpriced and taste awful

I dunno what to do, work is moderately physical and I can't just stuff myself before work cause fuck bloating and I'm not a PSMF faggot.

god I hate this shit.
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>>37046705
I had gyno, female fat distribution and failed to begin puberty..
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>>37046742
Try 100mg/wk
That got Jerry to 800 ng/dl and I've the same dose successfully alongside tren
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>>37046730
Start by running as little test as necessary. Endo dosages start as low as 50mg/wk and typically go up to 150mg/wk

See where you can get down to and follow anons advice >>37046705 (Run other stuff)

Just don't drop test entirely. Somewhere in those low dosages you'll feel pretty comfy
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>>37046543
It sounds like you need to deadlift more, small core/traps.

I deadlifted too much and my core overpowers my chest. Traps fo daays. Going to need to spend the next two years doing nothing but incline bench to bring my chest and shoulders up to par though.
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>>37046208
She got abs similar to Jason Genovas
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>>37046762
I really do everything but deadlift. I'm even squatting heavy (for me) again. I really fucking hate reads but I think it's from tight hammies. I've just got to suck it up.
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I'm going into B+C after this blast. Gonna cruise at 200mg test

Should I taper down the test from 500 to 200mg slowly or will I be fine going straight down to it?
Mostly just want to avoid acne which raped me during PCT last cycle.
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>>37046775
Straight2twohunjy
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>>37046775
It tapers itself by nature. Just change the dose when youre ready

>>37046774
Deadlift heavy, faggit. It fixed my fucked up waiste about as well as could be hoped
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>>37046725
Sure 6 months you'll be a lot better looking than you were, say 2 years and you'll be back to being pluto's cousin.
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>>37046806
>fixed my fucked up waist
Explain?
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>>37046820
Health at every size shitlord
Srs though that's unnecessary
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>>37046774
That makes sense, just throw in deadlifts once a week. Theyre too fatiguing to do more frequently. 3-6 heavy sets.
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How do you guys get blood work done so fucking often? If I kept going to my doctor every 6-8 weeks and saying "hey I need these specific blood work things done again just because" he would think I was fucking insane.
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>>37046820
desu senpai if I run a 1500 cal deficit while on 500 mg of test and running dnp two weeks at a time I can be 200 lbs in 6 months easy, I'm 6'00'' btw

>>37046831
Nah he's good bro, He didn't make me buy all those pizzas and eat them.
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>>37046824
Developed lower back and thickened core. I look slightly less alien as a result

>>37046861
The trick is never doing it
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>>37046840
Oh yeah, if youre not doing core work at least do some leg raises, either laying or hanging. I like dragon flags the most but they take a while to learn.
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>>37046861

You buy the test online and go to quest or labcorp to get your blood drawn. No doctor needed.
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is bad side effects longterm for steroids a meme? or will it actually fuck you up

i'm 6' 5'' 175lb and looking for some safe gear

all around i see people i know transform into beast in a few month without even proper eating, not really looking for shortcuts, but something that will up my ceiling
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>>37046873
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>roiding for this
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>>37046873
Looks good
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>>37046873
Sup breh, haven't seen you in a while. You get a husbando yet?
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>>37046873
Isn't that just from cutting and losing love handles?
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>>37046893

>Beast into a few months without proper eating

Don't know what roids they're taking but they're probably in your head
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>>37046893
Major long term side effect is heart problems which you can prevent with diet and keeping good cholesterol
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>>37046951
No? Pics are left to right. I weigh something like 40lbs more on the right and diddled 4 times what I could on the left

>>37046925
Nooo, I don't do any of that relationship stuff, silly. Watched a lot of good movies by myself tho.

>>37046919
Who says I roided for that? Just showing what diddles do
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>>37046996
I just meant your core, it doesn't look thicker it looks like you cut and your love handles fucked off. The rest of your physique is obviously a lot higher. Looking at it i would've assumed you bulked for a while and then cut not that your core was a result of deadlifting.
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>>37046736

>pork chops

ugh

Chug a protein shake.
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>>37046951

Look at the traps and rest of body. Clearly mass gain
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>>37047042

Sorry lats not traps. also quads and
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>>37047021
If anything I'm a higher bf in the second pic. My core/taper is what changed.

I wish you were right, but the love handles are definitely still here lol
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>>37047040

not really filling.
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>>37047061

Rice and a tin (or more) of tuna.
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>>37046957

with 'beast' i mean going from v skinny to aesthetic in a couple of months, something that would take 1-2 years natural.

I remember them taking a shitload turinabol, don't know how that is considered here
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>>37047082
It's dumb.
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>>37047082
Tbol is okay, not as good for mass gain as dbol sdrol or adrol
But also not very liver toxic
Sounds like they ran it without a test base which is pretty stupid
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>>37047066
Ho

It's bedtime
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>>37045477
you look like shit
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>>37047110
Post physique big guy
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>>37047097

I remember them saying it was good because it had no bad side effects.

They were pretty uneducated about it but did manage to add on 10-15kg (20-30lbs) in a few months.

Most of them lost it very soon after quitting though
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Ugh.... just woke up kinda late. What kind of fasted cardio should I do bros, I have 35 min
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Being natty feels shit desu family
Fuck this gay earth
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>>37047127
Bad side effects in their eyes were probably acne, gyno, bloat. All of which can be managed with AI.
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