Fuck you and your lies /fit/.
I've been training since January of 2013, doing the routines that /fit/ recommends. I started with SS and then moved on to madcow's when I stopped making gains. Then when those gains stopped I moved on to a PPL split. I was always consistent, ate, and had good form. Guess what. All these routines are fucking shit. I'm strong sure, but I look like fucking shit.
I was delusional for the greater part of these three years, thinking my physique would just suddenly improve. Now I know better. To the guys starting out, you WILL NEVER look aesthetic on strength routines. Go on some brosplit and start pinning if thats what you want.
As for me Im done with fucking lifting, I feel fucking duped and I wasted my time. Fuck this gay earth and fuck you /fit/
>>36521556
>you WILL NEVER look aesthetic on strength routines
Who would have thought?
You should of ate big to get big cmon
>>36521556
You will never look 'good' by media standards without pinning. Ottermode is the only realistic natty goal.
>>36521556
yeah senpai, how good you look depends entirely on minor variations in routine, not bf%, diet, genetics, lighting, etc.
Its all strength training's fault you dont look like zyzz, not your lack of perspective and dedication.
But by all means, hop on a brosplit and never lift maximal weights, hell, start pinning so you can get past your "genetic potential".
Faggot
Do strength routines really not help your looks? All those compounds from SS sure gets my body sore. I'm making gains but I figured the reason I didn't look too different after 2 months was because it's only been 2 months.
I know this is why you made the thread, but you'd look decent if you cut
>>36521556
you could try cutting maybe?
>>36521556
is this a meme? just cut and go on a brosplit then. You arent suddenly incapable of being aesthetic just because you have already made gains. fuckin retard
>>36521611
>You hop on SS to gain strength
>Once you've gained sufficient strength you hop on a routine for aesthetics
Or you can skip step 1 and be one of those fags who benches 50kg with an OK body.
>>36521556
This is pleb b8
But I'll bite. What kinda numbers you putting on your lifts after three years?
>squats 1pl8 after three years
>>36521611
They definitely do. OP is meming/didn't diet properly.
Just plop on some accessories for whatever you want built a bit extra and you're good.
>>36521556
>permabulk for 3 years
>look like shit
>act surprised
you cant be for real
Oh my god I hate all of you. I've been doing SS for 6 months and I look aesthetic, my normie dyel friends say I'm a big guy (for who?), strong etc. do all your compounds, but make sure you eat right! Guaranteed OP is a fucking idiot who didn't pay attention to his diet. Newbies, ignore the trolls and do SS, it's worked wonders for me
>>36521702
This.
In my eyes I look skinnyfat, but all my friend's moms are saying that I like leaner and like I've put on muscle.
>>36521658
All are 5RM
Squat 355
Deadlift 425
Bench 290
Press 140
>>36521556
Honestly you look very good to me. That type of body is attractive to the vast majority of women.
I truly do not see the problem here. I wish I had that type of body
Look up Jesse Norris and the way he trains. He's a strongman who's main focus is deads, bench, and squats but he also does accessory work for the "show" muscles. I think he looks pretty damn good
YOU DIDNT FUCKING DOING IT RIGHT YOU DUMBASS
>>36521702
THIS THIS THIS
Op is fucking dumb, how you look is so muddled in variance you cannot accurately measure it day to day or workout to workout.
Get strong, eat right, and I assure you you will look better.
>>36521556
ive been powerlifting for 5 years and i look like this. You cant expect to get any good advice from 4chan, try T-nation/barbell shrugged/athleanX/bodybuilding.com/etc for real advice aand find what works for you
>>36521742
How tall are you, brah? If you're over 6'2" you're going to have a tough time building enough muscle to look 'hollywood' good. What's your current body weight?
Those numbers are a little low, honestly, for 3 years of training depending on how heavy you are.
You should fix your diet. Count your calories, do some research and stick with it for 6 months. Then post another pic you lazy turdburgalar
>>36521600
/thread
>>36521556
You look like shit because you're fucking fat. Learn to cut
>>36521755
>>36521789
OP already knows that he would look good with juice.
>>36521742
Shit man, I've been lifting for 3 weeks and my OHP is higher than yours. I'm not sure if this b8
>big
>lean
>natty
>in less than a decade
Pick three
>>36521742
Ive been lifting for 2 days and I already press 2 plate and deadlift 5.
I guess you got shit genetics man, I suggest hopping on a brosplit and start pinning
>>36521844
never juiced, active duty mil and regularly piss tested
>>36521650
>>Once you've gained sufficient strength you hop on a routine for aesthetics
Which are some good ones? Because I've done SL 5x5 but everyone says that Madcow or Texas come afterwards, and I don't really care about strength past this point besides a couple of lifts I need to improve on.
OP is just fat
>>36521556
Just cut
I pretty much look like this right now after three months. Help.
>>36521887
TM is actually great for aesthetics IMO if you set it up right.
>>36521876
Pff, yeah sure. Then you should get your blood pressure tested, you're deathly ill.
>>36521904
>if you set it up right.
That's the thing, with only a couple months of lifting under my belt I'm a beginner. Ultimately, even after reading the sticky or browsing questions threads, I have to rely on asking more experienced people
What changes are you recommending?
>>36521556
try adding sets of fork putdowns
>>36521919
pumped, strained and good lighting and also naturally vascular. i got my BP checked before deployment and my PHA's and its a tad bit higher than your usual 120/80 but nothing to run home about. im also small though, 165 bw and 5'9
You're that "gymcel" guy aren't you?
>>36521932
Look up how to skin the texas method.
IIRC you just plop on an arm superset two times a week.
The compounds on their own are good as well.
>>36521600
Truth
>>36521944
Interesting, thanks mate.
>pinning
You guys mean Pinterest?
>>36521556
If your bf went below 11% I bet you'd look like one of the magazine bodies
But that's what roids for. Your body is perfect for natty 3 years of training
>>36521981
>You guys mean Pinterest?
yes
>>36521611
It WILL help your looks, but not as much as doing an aesthetics routine will. SS is for strength first and foremost. Generally what I see recommended for beginners is to do SS but combine it with accessory exercises that you'd do with lower weight but higher rep (6-8 reps). So you'd do things like pull-ups and curls on the day you do your main compounds. Also, you'd alternate between lifting heavy on one compound and lifting light on the other.
>>36521600
Unless your a manlet... right?
>>36521981
Yes, gains increase the more you post them on pinterest
>2016
>Not cutting down then focusing on a progressive bulk
It's the only way
>>36522012
This anon knows whats up
>>36521556
What exercise are you getting outside of the gym and how often?
>high bodyfat
>why do i look like shit fit??
>>36521556
Fuck off fatty. Ive been lifting(mostly bodyweight exercises) for a year and a half and look better than you. Wanting to be "aesthetic" doesnt make anyone delusional. Its easily done naturally with hard work.
>>36521556
Have you considered not being 20% body fat?
>>36521742
lol you think thats bad, I've been lifting over 3 years and
>240 bench
>315 ATG squat
>375 box squat
>405 deadlift
>165 press
@205lb 6'2
My only defence is that I started at 140lb austwich mode
>>36521600
>>36521810
>>36521946
CONSIDER CUTTING PERMAFATS
>>36522138
This is pretty good progress anon. +65lbs of mostly muscle in 3 years
>>36522138
6'2" 170 here
I was 185 at the beginning of summer. Goddamnit. I just can't keep weight when I'm at school.
>>36521556
I've been lifting for about 3 years
I'm 6'1'' and 203ish lbs
best lifts in the gym are
437 squat
250 bench
545 deadlift
strength programs will make you look good if you're not a fucking idiot about what you eat
>>36521600
Lifting 3.5 years here
Can confirm
If you want to be lean and drug free, don't expect much more than ottermode
Your progress is fine guys and youre over reacting. This is why you have to look at scientific articles rather than some youtube celeb or magazine model, and especially ignore fit e-staters.
People do drugs and people lie. If people look great and say theyve been lifting 3years, add an extra 5 theyre lying about.
Strength training is a great way to increase your fatigue cap for future hypertrophy goals. Also itll give you the endurance to maintain muscle during a drastic cut.
You shouldnt quit op, youre almost at the best part of lifting.
>>36521876
gr8 b8
im active duty military living in the BARRACKS and i pin, been piss tested like 4 times since the new year
>>36522138
you think that's bad?
I've been lifting over 3 years too, and:
>can't even bench because of shoulder injury, hit 200 once though
>hit a 265 squat once, can do about 240 now
>hit a 350 deadlift once, can do about 3plate now
>hit a 155 press once, can do about 135 now
all 1RM
185lbs @ 5'10"
started at 140lbs too
>>36522215
you do realize the command has to have a reason to get that tested? its really expensive and can only be done at san diego. what part is bait?
>>36521556
>>36521742
you look better and you're stronger than me, and ive been lifting since septembre 2012
if you cut slowly and lose a few pounds you'll look pretty good
>>36522244
My shoulder is pretty fucked too desu, spent the last few weeks foam rolling and stretching it so I can finally press again
>>36521556
Fuck, are you me? That's my exact body type too.
>>36522323
I fell for the stretching meme too.
When the pain got worse, I went to a PT.
He told me I'm more than mobile enough, maybe even hypermobile, and that's not a good thing.
He told me to limit the range of motion so that I don't stretch my shoulder capsule like hell.
I've now realized how important proper shoulderblade movement, and stability, is.
>>36521556
Sigh...
It's not the ROUTINE, it's your GENETICS.
You're right about lifting, it IS a waste of time, but it's nothing to DO with whether you do a "strength routine" or a "brosplit", it's to do with your GENETICS. That's what determines a good physique. SHOULDER WIDTH, MUSCULAR INSERTIONS, NARROW HIPS. That's it. Not the fucking routine.
Plus none of this matters, because even physique doesn't mean SHIT compared to HEIGHT and FACE. I know it sucks, but it's the way it is. You have beta genetics (no offence) so you didn't "make it". Why? BECAUSE THE GUYS WHO ACTUALLY LOOK GOOD ALWAYS HAVE DONE.
>>36521556
>you don't look good when you're fat as shit
who woulda guessed
>tfw no matter how much you lift you will eventually die
>>36522206
4 years here, boy he is right.
>>36521556
every natty ever realizing that everyone that is big and aesthetics is on gear lol
Just lose the fat retard.
>>36521981
Of course. That's the Deep Web slang us guys like to use.
>>36521872
i've just started lifting 2 hours ago and i already press 15 plates and deadlift 3 metric tonnes
you just suck bro
>>36522367
Was considering going to PT about mine too but the stretching and foam rolling does seem help, my right scapula was ridiculously tight compared to my left but its getting better now and the pain is almost gone.
>>36522484
Yeah, I'm just saying more stretching is not always better.
But if it helps you get rid of the pain, that's great.
If you can afford it, seeing a PT (even just once or twice) is worth it in my opinion.
>4 years
>natty
Just be fucking consistent and stop worrying about big numbers and hitting 225 flat bench with shit form.
Don't eat like a fuck wit. Lean meats, veggies, fiber, good carbs.
TLDR, be consistent and the hardest fucking worker in the room or you're not gonna make it breh.
>>36521556
Yep. I fell for the SS into TM into PPL meme too. All I got was a big ass and big legs.
Now all I do is weighted pullups, dips, OHP, rows and hill sprints. Looking better than ever
To be fair though OP. You are high bf, and depending on your genetics it can take longer.
If you are natty, yes, you will never look like a destroyer, but you still look better the the small arm faggots I see walking around every day.
>>36521556
Lifts? Weight? TDEE? BMR? Your daily Macros?
>>36522514
>more stretching is not always better
I'll give you that, I've hurt it before in the past by doing those broomstick stretches.
I'm currently saving up money for the next time I get injured, this guy I know who's serious into his oly put me in touch with really good physio but its expensive as fuck
>>36522639
Damn, guy at my gym injured his shoulder doing broomstick shoulder dislocations too.
Everyone seems to love them, but I'm staying far away.
>>36521556
You need to cut. You lift numbers will go down but you will look better
>>36522368
Why are you here? You sound like the type of person who wants to off himself but instead goes around making sure other people are miserable too. Take it from Nike; Just Do It™.
>>36522368
Also, I get that you are insecure and have inferiority issues, but caps wont make you stand out or seem more important or make what youre saying seem more important. Seriously, I got it didnt I? You do have some serious insecurities stemming from people not paying attention to you dont you? I should become a psychologist.
>>36522246
I thought there was still a chance a regular test could be screened for steroids.
>>36521556
>you WILL NEVER look aesthetic on strength routines
No fucking shit dumbass.
>>36521600
A bit bigger than otter but not far from truth.
Almost 4 years lifting, 96kg 6ft look big by normies.
When i am lean i am 80-85kg and look DYEL in clothes.
Its a compromise size or lean, maybe if i buulk for a year straight might build more muscle for next cut.
3 years lifting (home gym)
5'7
78kg
>not doing SS for a coupe of years and then moving to a brosplit
faggot
>>36522368
You sound like a woman who´s spewing all the memes you´ve ever heard on this board
>>36521797
I am 6'3 with almost identical stats to him and look pretty much the same. Atleast we're not manlet's right :')
>he listened to the bulk meme
this is why you look bad
cut to 10% then add muscle slowly.
you look like me before I fell off the wagon after 3 years. You have the muscle, you just need to get lean for it to really show
>>36521556
Do a proper cut numbnuts.
>>36521998
Correct my fellow manlet. We have the good life making easy/ Aesthetic gains.
>>36521876
Nigger he's currently banned for 6 months for failing a test. You are straight up retarded.
>>36523649
Although he didn't fail for gear, he failed for a banned stimulant.
>>36523649
>unironically calls people "straight up retarded" while being unequivocally wrong about something
Banned for stims. Looks like you're the straight up retard.
>>36521556
>3 years
try 3 months
>>36521556
Literally just cut and you'll look great
>>36523723
Yeah but you look worse than op
>>36523861
>lifting for strength
ok.
>>36523869
If you have goals regarding looking good why arent you on /fa/
>>36523723
AAAAAAAnd as expected you look weak and frail.
>>36523906
Cause I don't like dick and I don't want to look like a hipster lmao
>>36523906
why aren't you on /plg/?
>>36523921
Except we aren't talking about lifts here
>>36521556
Lose like 25lbs then slowly bulk back up...
If that doesn't work then cut 25lbs again, then start pinning steroids then start lifting and bulking again while on the juice
>>36523943
I said you LOOK WEAK AND FRAIL, Not YOU ARE WEAK AND FRAIL, but you are.
looks are what you're going for right? Fucboi?
>>36523976
uhhh yeah? Who cares if I can bench 315 if I look like a fucking barrel. If that looks weak and frail though then you can fuck right off.
Go back to /plg/ pls
>>36521797
290 5rm bench "low" the shit you find on /fit.
>>36522212
>tfw just started lifting at 19
>will hopefully be a peak potential at 27 when test is the highest
Feels good
>>36524009
That doesn't look strong m8, that looks "toned"
>>36521556
Assthetics is genetic
You will always look like shit, but at least you can be strong and look like a rapist
Looking good is all about bodyfat. Just run some Clen every two weeks for a couple months and you'll like fine.
>>36524110
You're accusing me of lifting for aesthetic than getting mad because I'm getting there just 4 months in???
Sour grapes anon, sorry for your shit genetics.
>>36521742
>140lb bench
What?
I did that the first time I ever stepped in the gym.
>>36524191
shoulder press I think. OP's bench is 290
>>36524204
Whoops. Dyslexia got the better of me.
>>36523723
>>36523943
You look bad and weak m8,just like the usual skinny guy that just started lifting
>>36522401
this
PPL is an aesthetics 'split', retard.
This is low quality trolling.
newbie here, straight into SS with bulk or just go into a cut?
>>36523943
what are we talking about then? because you look like shit/gay
>>36524545
ok anon, thanks for your feedback ill take it into consideration
>>36524262
definitely anon, you're 100% right
>>36521556
>I started with SS
First mistake, your fat as shit your legs dont need t rex mode attention
>PPL split
Second mistake
>listening to /fit/ without knowing what your doing in the first place
Third mistake
OP your doing strength training not hypertrophy, any bro split you can think of would do better than this now the good news is your strong as shit so transferring it to bodybuilding shouldn't be a problem but don't quit just because you dont know what a good split looks like.
>>36524387
You cannot do SS by the numbers on a cut.
>>36524685
Well I guess I should rephrase. I've been getting told to do SS+GOMAD but that seems excessive/unhealthy. What would you reccomend for a newbie like myself, I don't feel like getting too far considering summer is upon is
>>36524720
just fucking start ffs, you'll figure it out as you go along
>>36521556
I did this in under 3 years, doing ppl.
Have a 1300 total.
Sounds like you dont work as hard as you think you do.
>>36521755
>He's a strongman
No he isn't you tard.
He's the best natural powerlifter ever.
>>36524387
Cut what? you'd blow away in the wind
>>36522401
lol nice shit genes bro
>mortalets
>>36522401
>Lift your face in Western ways
>Build your muscles as your body decays
on the other hand, at least you'll look good and feel good and be healthy while you're here -- change what you can, don't bother with what you can't, do your best to be a positive contribution to the world
>>36521742
If I could bench 290, I'd be pretty happy with that number. Also, if you gut to negative 12 body fat, you'll see all the tendons and muscles.
Someone mansplain what brosplit and an aesthetics rutine are.
>>36521876
I'm active duty too dipshit. Unless you got caught with ron's ON YOU, you're fine. The dont test for roids on normal piss tests.
They CAN, but they have to inform you that they are doing the test and get permission from your CO... i've been in 8 years, never heard of anyone EVER getting plugged for ron's
>>36521556
You're too fat. You need to get your BF down then you'll look good. You only eat big if you're trying to get bigger, moron. You're already huge from fat.
>You're doing it wrong.
>>36525276
DESU only reason i dont do them is sides... primarily, dont wanna lose muh hair... already thinning...
FUCK YOU CREATINE AND DHT
>>36522401
Good; I can't wait.
>>36524733
I have this fear of doing squats/deadlift. I feel like if I fuck up the form I will literally fuck my self up.. am I just being an over paranoid faggot? I've watched some videos on proper technique but still have this odd fear
>>36521556
>not taking roids
I trained 2 and a half solid years and looked like I didn't left. At the end, I literally just cut for 5 months straight until I was 66kg (was 82kg before), pretty much losing all my fat and a bit of gains.
I'm now running test and already starting to look juicy as fuck after just over a week (preloading with propionate).
Just hop on gear lol. It's so worth it
>>36525224
HELP YOU STUPID QUEERS
>>36525366
I'm a newbie too, and it's not that bad.
Start with weights that are pretty light for you, so you can work on the form. The weights won't really be able to hurt you until they start getting really heavy.
It's pretty fun, trust me.
>>36525366
just fucking start holy shittt
go low weight or something i dunno
>>36521556
i think you would look pretty good if you just cut and maybe throw in some curls
Gj op
>>36522196
>Implying you look good
Rofl
>>36523943
Rofl the only thing that looks different in those pics is the lighting. Either this is b8 or youre fooling yourself.
>>36521556
>I did the same retarded routine and got nowhere
>I'll give up! That'll help
Am I missing something? Noone worth their salt here will tell you strength=aesthetics.
>>36524834
could have gotten this by closing your fat fucking mouth alone
>>36525380
Its in your head you most definitely havent had time to make roid gains yet.
>>36525475
i think he looks good anon ;)
>>36522196
>3 years
>250 1rm
I've been lifting for 3 months and I'm at 180 3x5
>All of these people sticking with routines made by others instead of creating their own and making the best gains
>>36525573
Ur gonna fall for the bench meme
>>36525515
That's not progress m8 you must be retarded
>>36525550
I literally just said I've been using propionate lol...
>>36524834
>before
Drinking, socialising with high test females, going out at night, enjoying self.
>after
No friends to take a photo, has to resort to selfie in gym mirror, the only place you feel like you belong anymore.
>>36524179
You're deluded if you think you look anything more than a fucking twink .
You have the body of a 13 year old boy whose parents don't feed him very well.
>>36521742
is this bait? Im 1 year in and my 5RM stats are
>sq 270
>dl 250
>bench 155
>press 125
>>36521702
You better be off SS ASAP or you're going to crash into T-Rex mountain
this is me 2.5 yrs of strength lifting
183cm or 6feet
from 62kg to 82kg or 180lbs
on a cut atm for them sweet abs
I did strength training with some added accessories. Natty 181 cm. 19 months of lifting.
And most people would say im pretty aesthetic. Plus i now squat 180kg for reps.
lol i love seeing beta geneticily inferior males whine about their bodies.
>>36527134
lookin good. weight and stats?
>>36527202
190 lbs (85.5kg average morning weight)
180kg x 4 backsquat
130kg x5 front squat
205kg x1 deadlift
105kg x5 bench (have shoulder problems, bicep tendonitis, so don't really go that heavy anymore, rather do closegrip bench and focus on form)
and i stopped doing OHP, but i can at least do 60kgx5
>>36521755
He's a fucking midglet, my ankles are longer than his arms
>>36525657
this is too real
Maybe if you got your body fat below 30% you'd have better definition
Fatty
>Shit genetics
>high bf%
Pick both. Try cutting, OP.
>>36521556
you're too fat dumbass
>>36527071
188cm 62kg lank checkin in. just started lifting. wondering how long it took you to reach like ~135kg 5rep deadlift. trying to figure out when ill need to buy more shit
>>36521556
T-three years of strength routines ?
>>36521864
This desu fampai
>>36525366
i was in your shoes 2 weeks ago. just get started, begin with just the bar, don't rush in and teach yourself bad habits that you have to get rid of down the line. ask a PT at your gym to help you with form, ask people in the gym to give you some tips sometimes, you'll figure it out.
as someone who's doing SS right now, this thread is terrifying to be honest.
i'm doing SS by the book with some accesories after the main lifts, eating at a 500 cal surplus and hitting my macros. i'm not going to turn out like OP am i?
>>36528028
No, since you're not bulking like a retard.
Also don't do SS for too much time, is a begginer routine.
>>36528346
i'd heard 6-9 months maximum for SS, so i'm aiming for 7 or so. that should be fine, i think. after that i'll have to find a good intermediate program, but that seems doable.
>>36528388
SS lasts as long as you continue to make progress. You don't stop at 6 months because you decided on it in advance. Otherwise, you aren't doing the program and then you'll come on here and tell people you were trolled.
>>36528397
you're right, what would distinguish "not making progress" from just having to deload? failing to increase weight a certain amount of times?
>>36528429
The infographic above me tells you. For starting strength, assuming your recovery parameters are in check (sleeping, eating), you hit a plateau and deload. After you've done that 3 times, you move on to a more advanced routine where you increase the weight WEEKLY instead of day-by-day.
It's important to know the difference between not making progress and just having an off workout. Towards the end of your linear progression, you may only get 3x3 or 5x3, but then you nail it next time. After my first deload, I'm back to LP with my microplates.
>>36528533
alright, thanks.
>>36521556
Lol your genetics and diet suck.
Actually I'm glad the retards in this thread and the OP keep lowering the bar for nattys. More and more kids just starve themselves to look like ottermode twinks while those who actually put in the years and.work look that much better and stick out in comparison.
Keep sucking dicks OP
You're just fat mate, lose some weight and you will look better.
As a natty lifter all I can say is that you weren't vegan enough
>>36524834
Post PPL brah? Also really nice progress, you're probably my realistic natty goal by 2017.
>>36525143
This tbqh
>>36521556
>I lifted 3 years without cutting why don't I look good guys
>>36528643
>no chest
>vegan
>vegan gainz has 0 chest
Am I on to something here?
>>36528689
I was being facetious.
Don't ever compare me to that autistic spazz
>>36528647
ima be real with you dude i dont really have a routine.
like ppl is my framework but basically it depends if i am cutting or bulking. If im bulking its basically just some powerlifting movement, bench on push, pendlay row on pull, and squats for legs.
Then I just do accessories.
Same when I cut, but much less time spent on the pl stuff and more accessories, usually throw in pre exhaustion
>>36525366
>>36525395
>>36525402
>>36528010
Requesting the green text of the guy squatting in sandals
>>36528647
>>36528789
and basically I just do weight and reps until i feel gassed. take most sets (later in the workout) to failure, and I mean i end up doing the same kinds of workouts, like I have a pool of them and I switch em around
>>36521600
What is pinning? Google isn't helping me and I'm new to /fit/. I don't remember seeing it in the sticky
>>36528849
Sticking a needle in your arm usually with anabolic steroids
>>36528856
sometimes not though, just to confuse the body.
>>36521872
>Ive been lifting for 2 days and I already press 2 plate and deadlift 5
This man, iv just been born and i had to deadlift my mums pussy lips to get out, do as everyone says, watch your diet without guessing and do accesories
>>36528790
not a greentext, but sure.
You must have shit genetics or, more likely, you didn't actually lift hard.
I just entered my 4th year of lifting and I look amazing.
>>36523943
>>36523723
Weak asf
>>36528849
Gonna need some source on this one, senpai
>>36522867
You look athletic or not in clothes by the way you carry yourself
>>36523943
>When they preppin the bulls for 'Poor Little White Guy 26' and you takin selfies to pass the time
>>36522244
nice nice nice
>one rep max
Dude i do heavier than those for reps and jm at 2 yr point
>>36521556
Don't be an idiot, OP. You need to do some fucking cardio and lose the fat, then start building muscle.
>>36521556
Heres my 1yr as a natty
I am like 20pds overweight atm
>>36528849
My test is rising.
>>36528908
Thank you
>>36528916
Pics or gtfo
>>36529429
Cut and you'll be fine
>>36526114
Babby weight.
In 3 months of SS I was at 1/2/3/4
>>36521556
I don't know, I got pretty jacked lifting for strength for just a year (albiet packing around probably 17% bf).
If aesthetics are your goal start training for that. You'll make a lot more progress quicker starting with that base of strength than you would have going straight for a bro-split.
>>36529800
I was my first week
>>36528856
So it's just another term for using gear...
>>36521556
you either suck at lifting or you have genetics worthy of laughter. Either way, I'm laffin'
>>36529669
Im bulk 10 more pds then cut
>>36521556
1. Keep your lifts up
2. Cut to a BMI <20
3. Enjoy your aesthetic body
You have a "base" of muscle. You are ready to CUT. Just make sure you lift and eat protons while cutting.
>>36522368
I am PROJECTING so hard that my text is in CAPS LOCK so you know it's true.
I wish I DIDN'T look like I do now, but rather than IMPROVE MYSELF, I'll keep telling others to GIVE UP.
NONE of what I say should matter to ANYONE, because I am just another SHITPOSTER on an ANONYMOUS JAPANESE IMAGE BOARD.
>>36521556
You could just fucking cut now, you know
someone post a proper brosplit, i dont want to wiki
>>36534226
http://www.exrx.net/Lists/WorkoutMenu.html
Back & Biceps / Chest & Triceps / Thighs / Shoulders, Calves & Abs
Torso Pull / Torso Push / Leg & Arm Pull / Leg & Arm Push
4 on, 1 off
ABCDX
6 days a week
ABCDABX,CDABCDX
Second program only (ie: Pull/Push/Pull/Push)
Not recommended year round
>>36521650
How long should I stick with starting strength before moving onto more a e s t h e t i c routines, and which would you recommend?
>>36521556
Wtf TC... you don't look bad. You def looklike you llift. ...
>>36522368
I like this new caps lock meme
who are you and where did you come from, FACE, HEIGHT and FRAME guy?
>>36534365
Once the program ends, which is when you don't progress on it anymore.
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>>36525561
Lmao at that title
>>36534320
Thx breh
>>36525561
lmao
>>36528533
Is it 3 deloads consecutively or total? I switched to Madcow because I failed bench more than three times and deloaded once. I'm at 2 pl8 so I figured it was a good time to move on
>>36522911
>ugly
>Manlet
I hope you're rich
does anybody have common sense these days? Your bf% is too high you fuckin dumb sack of fat
>>36534320
rep ranges etc?
>>36521611
It's both. Generally you should see a difference after 3 months of weightlifting. After 6 months you should look like you lift. After one year you should look like you're big to the average person. Do 3 months of SS and then hop on whatever routine you have to do to accomplish your goals. Diet, sleep are the foundation of your training. Good form and lifting as much as you can while not overexercising will build on top of it. Genetics are your limitation. Good luck, don't be a dumbass. I'm talking nothing but the truth.
>tfw just started my strength training
>know the outcome is to get strong
>>36523723
you kinda look like a soccer player
>>36521556
I know some of the feelings you are experiencing.
I knew in my mind as a fat short man that even with regular fitness and dieting I would never look good so I decided to do strength focused workouts.
I had hoped that with the exercise and change in lifestyle I'd eventually look at least more aestheticly pleasing to myself, but I hate what I see in the mirror. I'm still obese, because I suck.
That said you look much much much better than me.
>>36521556
Cut, you idiot.
Reduce your caloric intake, and shed some fat off over the next few months.
I guarantee you'll look better.
>>36521600
This. Natty strong otter here. I can shove food in me all i want but 5'10 167 lbs ripped is basically the limit which is perfect. Who wants to force themselves to eat to maintain a larger amount of muscle mass? If you have workouts to fuel. You fuel them. Real simple. Natty force feeding is for people who hate themselves. If your natty you HAVE to train correctly to look good and it takes a while too.
>>36536227
i'm merlin that natty adonis belt m8, post routine?
>>36536227
Lol you look like shit m8.
The delusion is strong in this one
>fagbun
>claims he can't get over 170 natty and lean
>talks about training to "look good" and is a "strong otter"
Step it up /fit/
