Exactly what would it take to get a body like John Skywalker? The "aesthetic" look. Is it even possible natty or would I have to give up on being natty and take roids. What do you guys think is the natty limit?
>>34961222
>Is it even possible natty
>>34961222
he's 6'4 it is only possible through roid use.
you can get close but you'd be a skelly essentially.
depends how tall you are and if you have a naturally small waist with broad wide shoulders you dont need roids to look good man unless your like 6"2" + in height eat hard train hard and time will tell.
>>34961222
According to this guy >>34961231
Jon is 6'4"
If that's true (no idea), that and he actually weighs 205 like the pic says, that puts his BMI at 25
If you want to hit the same BMI at say, manlet status (5'9") you'd have to be 170
Not impossible, but tough
>>34961262
kek
It's not just mass, Leanness and proportion.
I think certain drugs affect vascularity and subcutaneous water.
>>34961222
I'd fix my name before my body lol.
>>34961222
Do we need this fucking threads every day?
>>34961262
So it's possible natty. How long would it take for a begginer skelly
>>34961371
10 years
>>34961369
Most people lift for aesthetics of course there will be threads like these everywhere. Would you rather have feel threads or threads that are only lifting related
>>34961222
some good genetics, and moderate amounts of test,dbol,tren,winny, and like 2 years. something like that if being completely srs OP
>>34961371
Only 1 way to find out skeltalos of the divine undead god
>>34961419
Yes very srs. Can you give me an example of cycles I would run or just give me some links to learn how to do steroids right? Also anyway I can get them online safely
>>34961439
if you have to ask, you'll never know
>>34961478
Well I guess I'll just research it then.
>>34961439
honestly just get to like 10% bf naturally and start on 500mg test e for 12-15 weeks, the most cookie cutter beginner cycle out there. After that you can add shit to see how each compound affects you
>>34961222
disproportionate arms. look a shit
>take a fucking knee cunts
>>34961495
>>34961439
Country?
Might be legal, like the UK it's completely legal for personal use.
>>34961521
>no letrozole or HCG along with your cycle
Have fun with your gyno bloat, and permanently atrophied testicles.
Dyels should avoid giving bicycle advice
>>34961590
He should probably get some bloodwork done first before he starts roiding IMO
