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Drawfags and writtefags welcomed.

TG thread on /aco/:
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Old thread:
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>>6690126
>fucked up linking to /aco/ thread
Shit

>>>/aco/377340
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>>6690150
>Mentions she's a guy multiple times
>"I don't think I'll tell them I'm a guy just yet."

Is she supposed to be retarded?
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>>6690233
either translation went ari (arigh? wrong) or she does have bulge. idk.
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>>6690241
Awry, I think.

I dunno, I'm so confused.
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Hi /d/ I'm looking for a story, I read it a few months ago but have now lost it.

It was basically some friends playing a board game, based on Jumanji, where they'd pull cards and the cards would say some sex-based action or body modification that would then be inflicted on the draw-er. There were a couple body swaps and it ended with one of the girls "winning" bigger breasts because she won the game.

Can't find it now. Anybody know of it, or where I could find more like it?
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>>6690449
Ah fuck I know which one you mean but not where to find it... Check dkfenger's deviantart, I think it was his
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>>6690449
Yo wassup, i got you covered.
http://overflowingbra.com/results.htm?varname=901
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>>6690472
YES this is it, thank you so much anon
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>>6690233
You can be a girl

But you'll be retarded
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Once more; Time-Travel Writefag here from /aco/ with a 3-part WIP Time-Travel TG Tale.

Part 1: http://pastebin.com/UEb8Mkiy

Part 2: http://pastebin.com/w12E90ND

Part 3: http://pastebin.com/ChAHBMFA

I'm open to suggestions as to where to take the story from here, but keep in mind that I might not like every/any suggestion I get and take it in another direction.
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>>6690608
Pretty good so far anon
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>>6690608
Good work anon.
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>>6690608
I'm waiting 'til the whole thing's complete (I've been burned by too many tantalizingly-good-but-forever-abandoned fics) but keep at it, man. Sounds like the shit.
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>>6690608
>Want to keep working on Diary of Nana
>Not sure any FtM fetishists even come to /d/ because of how niche the fetish is

I'll complete it eventually anyway, but having a niche fetish is suffering.
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There was a nice writefagging anon a good amount of threads ago that was writing a magical-glove-based TG for me, and I'm wondering if that anon is still here.

If you are, how is the story coming along? I keep checking these threads in case one of the pastebins is yours, but haven't seen any information about it since you last said you were working on it a couple weeks ago, so if you're there, how is it all going?
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>>6690758

TTWF Here. Were you responding to the wrong post, or...?
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>>6690919
Nah, just jealous people actually give a damn about what you write.
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>>6690935

Ah... Sorry about that, I guess. I don't really know any place that's big on F>M TG or I'd point you that way.
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I started trying captions. Is this any decent?

Any advice/requests?
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>>6690608
I'm really digging the internal conflict man. How old is the character again? 19?
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>>6691074
TTWF here. I left it a bit ambiguous, but she's at least 19.
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>>6690126
>see thumbnail in catalog
>"Is that a big boobie lady humping a metal slug?"
>open thread and see it's a girl being held by an orc
>"Oh... hmm..."

Anyone know any doujins with a big boobed girl humping a metal slug?
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>>6690783

You're talking about the one with the girlfriend molesting her boyfriend to be a super-cute girl, right?

Man, I'm waiting to see that one, too.
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>>6691226
Real life's been mucking me up... But for you nice folks? Today's a writing day. Hold on to your butts.
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>>6690979
I am not a fan of characters becoming others. I like when a character turn into the female version of themselves, like this >>6690878
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>>6691482
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>>6690783
Can someone please tell me the source of this .gif?
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>>6691482
I'm personally really into identity death type of stuff, so that's what I wanna do. I can enjoy both though.
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hey /d/, I'm looking for a tv story I read awile back, but lost it. It was something like a guy who has been shuffled around from foster home to foster home winds up at a really strict all boys boarding school that deals out punishment in the form of a certain magical wooden paddle that turns the boys into girls, and they have to have sex to turn back. Every time they are punished again, they get sexier and more "in love" with their female bodies, teachers were incredibly hot, and that's pretty much all I can remember. I know there were other stories like it too, I think they were all on some website together or something. Would really appreciate it if you guys pointed me towards this, a mirror of it, something in the same vein, whatever.
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>>6691494
Those are actually pretty hot, as captions go.
The font on the last two is painful to read, however.
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>>6691539
I think that's at Fictionmania.tv but can't look it up now
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>>6691226
well, not quite. It's a lesbian girl molesting her male best friend into her ideal girl so that they can date. Dunno if the guy's okay with being TGd or not because I never specified if he was going to be or not (I don't really remember if I specified or not), so it'll be interesting to find out when the story's done how that all happens.

But yeah, it's that one.

>>6691422
Thanks friendo. You're the best.
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>>6691517
rock fucking hard
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>>6691664
Depraved lesbian bff magically turning me into a girl to fuck? If I could swap back and forth, I'd totes be down with that.
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>>6692120
Sure, but would you do it if you couldn't turn back? I know I would.

Even if the girl and I didn't work out, being a girl's still a plus.
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Hey guys, I finally posted some of my extras from the TG Harem on a journal on DA. You can check it here:
http://themightfenek.deviantart.com/journal/The-TG-Harem-Extras-for-you-Reader-and-News-592093397

Including a continuation of the profile of the characters that I started doing on the last thread: >>6680582 and >>6680689


Also, I did a collab with a writtefag friend there. If you like gradual mind alteration, or transformations without the character noticing you might like it.

Its basically a take on story about Toshiro from Bleach, being transformed by Rangiku, Orihime and her...uh...sister, that used to be Ichigo.


He doesn't know how to post on 4chan, and wanted some criticism, so I decided to give some help:
http://dancingspartan.deviantart.com/art/Toshiro-and-the-TG-Questionnaire-548897698
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>>6692124
Who is this character?
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>>6692223
That's Yosuke Hanamura from Persona 4. His character would have worked much better as a girl, I think. It's unfortunate that the game already had an immense surplus of waifus. He would have made a great girl.
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Just found this manga recently. It's pretty brilliant.
Dude curses his bully and turns him into a girl. Backfires on him later to change him too.
[Fujiya] You've Got Female
https://hitomi.la/galleries/769517.html
https://hitomi.la/galleries/838973.html
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>>6692185
That Bleach tg story is pretty good.

Do you plan on doing other Collabs with writters?
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>>6691539
I think you're looking for Ed Miller's "Miss Sheila DeVille's School for Wayward Boys"

http://fictionmania.tv/stories/readtextstory.html?storyID=3356736957685304803
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Okay, I got plenty of progress in on the glove story. The best part about making smut is that you can put your own fetishes in. If you're a fan of chub, big butts, yuri, and/or happy sex, this one's gonna be for you.

Seriously, how often do you see an overlap between TG and chub? Or butts, for that matter? It happens in some hentai and modeseven stuff but almost never in written work - so I'm being the change I wish to see in the world. Mahatma would be proud.

>>6691664
Thanks, amigo.
>>6692120
I dunno if I'll put in masculinizing gloves or anything. Probably not; where's the fun in it?
>>6692124
See, this anon gets it.
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>>6690134
Am I the only one reading that with Robin Williams' Mrs Doubtfire voice.
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>>6692918
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>>6692920

Am I the only one who thinks that a character turning into other like this is incredibly boring? Nigga, just fap to Maya or Nami.
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>>6692185

>Usually pretty chill to hang around after the transformation, her libido goes up to the sky after feeling energised or pumped out, like after sports or a show. In this state you can expect some witty wordplay and playful teasing, she knows that she is hot and knows how to play that. On bed she would be more active and engaged with you, compared to the others who would be more passive. Takes a very active dominant role, her favorite position is on top, cowboy style. She also likes challenge and would love some struggle to see who would be on the bottom. You can expect it fast, intense and loud with some dirty talk.

Muh dick.

Fuck, it's so hard to find a TG where the character is active amd dominant.This is the kind of thing that I love, fucking thank you.

>>6692230
Source? This is so cute
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>>6692941
I really like this type of thing. It's the process that does it for me, not the end result.
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>>6691618
Yes, Flashkill is one of the only people who work with captions that I can say that do a great work.

He writte STORIES with caps, instead of "there is this guy, he met this person, transformation sequence, now boobs and maybe Mind alteration". His characters have actual personalitties.
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>>6690758
I like FtM tg but it's really rare and whatever is out there is mostly shit. There are few gems though. I like what you're doing. Keep at it.
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>>6690758
>>6693085
I forgot to add that now that I think about it certainly wouldn't hurt to add more description of the transformation and detailing her loss of femininity.
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>>6692941
It's fanfiction. If you're not already really invested in the source material, it's pretty much worthless. Does nothing for me.
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>>6692736
Found it, it was a spin off of Ed's original story. Thanks famicon, you da real most valuable anone.
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>>6692781
>TG and thick girls
COUNT ME IN
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>>6692781
>chub
Whoa, whoa, how much chub are we talking here? I'm not a fan of the obese or anything. Is this simply thick, or really chubby? Tiny muffin top, or fat fetishizing? Just wanting to make sure.
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>>6692919
Please don't post child porn

Reported
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>>6693188
Just thicc. Dun worry bout it.
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>>6693205
Source please?
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>>6693248
it's in the filename
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>>6692185
Again, great work, man. You have started something great, and will only get greater the more care and time you put into it. So take all the time you need. We'll be supporting you all the way.

>>6692781
Anyone got a lit of the Rito becoming Riko episodes?
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>>6693205
Oh, then that's fine. Sonico-levels are a-okay. I still prefer a little less poochiness but those amounts aren't a negative or anything. Just not a positive.

Hey, also, how big will those butts be? Now I can really get behind that.
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>>6693370
Somewhere around this big.
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>>6693385
Hmm, what's this from?
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>>6693385
Mmm, I like that. I would even go bigger, but y'know that might just be my butt expansion fetish talking. Good work, make it great.
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>>6693391
Suruga Kanbaru from Bakemonogatari. I don't know which part.
>>6693394
Thanks. For you, I'll go bigger. Your fetish is talking sense.
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>>6692185
A tg of Bleach characters is quite rare to be honest. But co gratulations to your friend, the story is fairly good, the end is a little rushed, but Toshiro as a party girl actually felt like an interesting character.

Now I will have to look to the other story with Ichigo.
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>>6693413
Ah, thank you immensely, but, y'know, don't make it like a couple of blimps or anything. Just quite exceptionally big for a girl. I mean, y'know, nothing that would make it hard for her (him?) to move.

Thank you, I appreciate what you're doing, making a TG story with a girl making a boy into another thick girl, because I tried to at one point do the same and wasted about 13,000 words making garbage.
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>>6692810
I miss him.
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>>6692120
Could I keep my dick? If so, yes. I don't want to be without Anon Jr. He's been with me through thick and thin.
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>>6693358
http://exhentai.org/g/713085/e43e177f27/
I'm not into TG where it makes the person like things that they didn't before, but wanting to try your own dick is an exception.
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>>6693835
You know, I would like some stories that dealt with a TGed character interacting with themselves before being transformed.

Just imagine the TGed half thinking "Geez, look at me I was so manly before, but now...what happened? I-I am in front of himas in a pink dress and on heels." While the other would think "T-there is no way that cute girl is me! I-I would never end up lie this! Man, if I didn't knew I would love to date her!"

Basically its internal comflict giving form and being mirroed as external comflict.
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>>6690131
>>6690134
any more aladdin tg?
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>>6690241
ari (arigh? wrong)
It's spelled awry.
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>>6691539
Ohhhh yes, I remember that story. Miss Sheila DeVille's School for Wayward Boys by Ed Miller. I put it in the tg story pastebin circeling around /aco/. It's probably one of the best tg/tf stories ever written with a sick ass concept and amazing execution. Only problem I have is that Ed's writing style isn't exactly the best, but that doesn't matter because his story spawned 2 sequels by other writers. Anyway, here is the link to that and the pastebin that I made.

http://fictionmania.tv/stories/readtextstory.html?storyID=3356736957685304803
http://pastebin.com/E1hujAqL
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>>6693971
Didn't realize the story was already posted; my bad. There spinoffs are in the pastebin so it wasn't a total waste.
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>>6692230
Does anyone have anymore like this? I remember seeing some similar webms a while back on here except they were anime and longer.
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>>6692223
Yukari
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>>6692185

>Dream episode where we follow the dreams of each character, including one from Carter, with alternate versions of his Harem.

Interesting. How these alternate versions would look like?
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Requesting translation of this one
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>>6694454
And this one
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Does anyone know the name of a manga, where a guy meets a female version of himself and both go together to school?
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>>6692781
sauce?
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>>6695323
Maken-ki! OVA 2
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>>6690249
i'd kill myself if i transformed into sayaka. just faster and easier that way.
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Ok faggots.

Say now your ideal fantasy. Put here your favorite type of story, or your dream story that nobody ever did.

What are your nipticks? Your favorite takes on TG?

Mine is:

>lighthearthed story, mostly comedic or slice of life with a "fantastical" feel.
>multiple characters being transformed. Seriously, for some reason I just LOVE when more than one character is transformed and each one has a distintictive personalitty and body type.
>mind alterations that make the characters act feminine, but without mind wipe.
>characters mostly unaware about the transformation and the mind alterations, at least at first.
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>>6696013

My ideal fantasy stories are often darker. I like ones where the tg change alters someone in power. A businessman gets body swapped into a secretary or trophy wife. A fantasy hero has the evil wizard turn him into a slave girl. That mighty superhero gets changed into a ditzy bimbo. Or like this caption, a guy wants to get tged, but gets so more than he expected. The stories don't always have to end badly. Sometimes the victim can overcome the odds and turn the tables. Those are good too. But I also like the ones where the character doesn't win. He's stuck with that body and his new life forever.
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>>6693413
That scene is from like ep.2 or 3 of Nisemonogatari. There's no TG in the Monogatari Series, though. Hell, there's only 3 male characters in the show at all.
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>>6690598

How much? Are we talking a little slow or full blown can't care for herself moron?
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>>6695882
>http://bato.to/reader#5d27828ab74d1e4e
is there ever any breast expansion in this? love it when the character turns into a petite female and slowly gets big breasts
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>>6696098
Yes, in fact. Since the beginning of the series, Mizuki has slowly been filling out. Compare this...
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>>6696195
...to this.
Not only that, Mizuki's been going down the slippery slope of femininity, from wearing dresses, to growing out hair, to developing a crush on Takeru.
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>>6696013

A sex change virus pandemic sweeping the world, turning men into women as natural females act as carriers.

No mental alterations, aside from those due to the difference in hormones.

Roughly half of men who as transformed by the virus end up pregnant within their first year due to being unaccustomed to female arousal and not being properly educated in terms of female contraceptive use.

As the virus sweeps the globe, we see different groups of people react. Some get changed early and have to deal with being quarantined with a bunch of other TGed men, each of which is still getting used to their new body.

Others who see the change spreading on the news as, slowly, familiar faces like newscasters and celebrities leave with a sore throat and come back with soft faces and full breasts. Painfully aware that its only a matter of time before the virus reaches their town and people they know start being the ones buying bras. Or before they can fill one themselves.

Those few typhoid mary types that willingly seek out the virus and end up spreading it.
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>>6696197
I fucking love this manga.
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>>6696495
Isn't the human race doomed?
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>>6696013

I could write an essay on different scenarios I like. As a whole, my preferences tend to run towards:

> magic or superscience based transformation
> a focus on the character's internal reactions/inner monologue
> subtler mental changes that work on the instinctual level rather than affecting conscious personality

I like analogues and opposites - punk guy to punk girl has some mileage, but punk guy to daddy's little princess has more potential for interesting adaptation clashes.

In my "serious" scenarios I like a certain amount of inner conflict, where the main character is being seduced by their new sensations, or by offers of power, or by their circumstances. In the "best ends" they fight through, usually remain female but gain love, success and/or power anyway. In the "bad ends" they give in to temptation and become a sexy supervillain/bond villain at best and lose everything at worst.

For more comedic, short term stuff I actually like flat out random transformations, too. In the style of Quantum Leap - press a button and get a new body for a day or two, with access to new memories and everything you need to "stay in character". You can have fun with it and do whatever you want, but before you change back you have to complete some task in the life of the girl you are - you might be a schoolgirl with an exam to take, a business woman with an important presentation, an expecting mother panicking about her first scan, a nun finalising her vows or a whore with her first client - you don't get to know until you press the button. Would you?
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>>6696727

We've bred mice from artificial sperm and eggs. Only a matter of time before we can try with more complex mammals.
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>>6696786
That would be slow as fuck and logistics would be a nightmare. Just make everyone into futas.
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>>6696197
>#96
Where the hell did you find scanlations for the next 30 chapters?
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>>6696842
The scanlation guys have already done up to there I'd wager, and they're still cleaning it up.
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>>6696786
Dude...read Y the Last Man.

Also you couldn't keep a population like this.
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>>6696860
Boku No Manga (the only group I know doing scanlations for Boku Girl) left off on 71

http://bokunomanga.org/
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Since this is fiction anyways...

Transformed males do not form ovaries. The testicles recede into the body and remain attached at the top of the vagina near the cervix.

They become women whose lubrication can get a natural female pregnant.
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>>6696197
Where are you getting the translated versions? The site I've been using is really far behind.
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http://www.sapphireplace.com/stories/drbender/hh-trouble.html

Here's a favorite of mine, I haven't posted it in about a year so it might be fresh to some of you. It's not x rated, but it's a fantastic story. If you like it I'll post another that's similar.
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>>6696887
They've done a live TL thread for 96, check their website more closely.
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>>6696727
You say that like we're not doomed anyway. At least this is a sexy doom.
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>>6696977
Amazing. This is like... neolithic TG. I had no idea this kind of stuff existed back then.
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>>6697037

This is one of my favorites too. What do you have that is similar?
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>>6695882
One thing I've never really understood is the "fear of losing oneself" that's attached to these sorts of stories. In this case it seems to manifest as "I can't go back if". Unless there's a mental component like pic related no amount of circumstance is ever going to change who you are. You adapt, it's how you adapt that makes you, not what you are adapting to.

Yeah I would struggle with things like dresses and makeup and whatever else goes on in these stories. Not because I'm afraid of it affecting me, just because those things are strange and new and uncomfortable. And like all strange and new things, they are only that way for so long.
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Hey everyone... chapter 13 of "Welcome to Saturn Beta" has been posted. <3

http://www.tgstorytime.com/viewstory.php?sid=2954&chapter=13

Enjoy! There will be actual sex in the next chapter, I promise.
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>>6696013
>Struggle to adapt to new role/life/memories
>Mental changes without identity death/overwrite

I tend to prefer modern day or science fiction settings, but that's flexible depending on the story. However, when the character just instantly becomes someone else and loses all their memories, it loses all appeal to me. It's not a transformation then, it's just a replacement.

It's a hard line to walk because I think mental changes, especially forced mental changes, are incredibly hot. When you have the character struggle with their own thoughts and new urges, wondering where they came from, I'm fucking diamonds. However, I prefer a "happy" ending (the character overcomes or makes peace with the changes), but having the original memories there in some way or another is crucial.

The struggle, the Fly-like transformation, the identity questions, that's what makes a story for me.
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>>6697284
>One thing I've never really understood is the "fear of losing oneself" that's attached to these sorts of stories. In this case it seems to manifest as "I can't go back if". Unless there's a mental component like pic related no amount of circumstance is ever going to change who you are. You adapt, it's how you adapt that makes you, not what you are adapting to.

I mean, it's easy to say in the abstract, but if you're a straight guy and you see yourself as a straight guy but then you start fantasizing about other men and riding dicks, are you still a "straight guy"? And if "you" were a "straight guy" and no you're longer a straight guy, are you still "you"?

It's the ship of Theseus all the way down.

Plus, even if you became a guy again, the memories of those urges and experiences will stick around. Actually, that's something that a lot of TG fic ignores - the aftermath of turning back. That could make for a great, if decidedly unsexy, story.
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>>6696891
No. Awful.
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>>6694419

Dylan would be a overly friendly and genky party girl, think in Ty lee from ATLA.

Ming would be more tradionally japanese, with a little goth style on the mix.

Chase would become a girl next door tomboy, but unlike Ryana, she would be more on the cute side.

Ryan would become a jersey girl.

And Colllin would become a model-like attention whore cosplayer.
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>>6697536
i thought ming was chinese
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>>6697552
He is, my bad.
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>>6697536
What "jersey girl" mean?
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>>6697813
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ROB8kI_fw

Nickname for trashy girls around the Jersey area big on gaudy jewelry and make-up. Think of Jersey Shore.

A lot of girls in New Jersey call themselves "jersey girls" to reappropriate it or whatever.
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>>6697444
because the sex change virus is completely great huh?
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>>6696891
That's retarded
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>>6697957
Oh shit. Now I want to see Ryana jersey girl. It looks like exotic and brown version of bimbos, with extra ass.
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>>6696013

No mental changes, no suddenly developing cocklust, no slow transformations, none of that. In a magical poof, guy becomes girl, enjoys yuri.

The only thing like that is Kashimashi, but the MC is so effeminate and is a guy for such a short time it hardly counts. The guy should be masculine enough to at least have a male voice actor during his time as a boy.
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>>6697284
Now I kinda want to go back to reading Misfile, even though the art is meh-tier weeb crap. It was actually good at dealing with a guy that is suddenly in a woman's body. The only thing it doesn't deal with is everyone else's reaction, but that's because the world conformed to the reality that he was always a girl. He's the only human who remembers the other reality.
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>>6698008
Honestly if you TG into a girl but your own fluids get you pregnant? I can't think of a worse situation for a tg fetishist that isn't into preg. I'd take most other situations.
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>>6696977
>slow TG
>suddenly vagina
>not going through the whole Prader scale slowly like every other aspect of the body
Top pleb.
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>>6697152
Jokes on you, faggot.
I've got his posts filtered.
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>>6697243
http://www.sapphireplace.com/stories/corbin/merlin01.html
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>>6697395
Except you aren't the ship. Who you are is not the sum of your parts. Your Self is the factor that, when multiplied against your circumstances, RESULTS in the sum of your parts. It's an independent factor by definition, and nothing can change it without effectively killing you and replacing you with somebody else (hello identity death).

So if you find yourself loving the dick, it's not because you've lost yourself, it's because you've adapted because you are adaptable. If you go back and find you still love the dick you should try to make peace with that. You haven't changed who you are, you just learned something new about yourself.

>>6698330
I actually do read that, but he/she's pretty much dead set about hating absolutely everything to do with the situation even if there's no reason to, which is exactly my point

It's one thing to say that you want to go back and your not going to let anything stop you, but there's no reason to force yourself to suffer just out of spite for the situation.
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>>6697395
>>6698584
Not him but imagine you as a guy love bacon, you eat it and it's awesome and the taste is so good you can't stop eating it, now by chance you change into a girl and your taste and flavor changes with your body (by chance again) and now, you put bacon in your mouth and the signal fired and sensation interpretation in your brain is disgust, it tastes horrible and you want to vomit.
So when you go back as a guy, you recover you initial taste, true your short or long experience with bacon with that other body might have kinda like shock therapy made you reluctant but as soon as you taste it back and feel how awesome it tastes, you forget about that experience, little by little, you just feel encouraged again to eat it, and the updated experiences overwrite your previous, all the time.
So the self is adaptable but no self is the same from the one a minute ago, so you don't actually add stuff or take it out but more like some thing you can go forth and back to, others might be a lot more resistant or you just decide as a self not to change them, but a self is quantum mechanics, it's neither one or the other until you decide as a self what it is, and at the end of the day the self is just based on your choices from the responses you get from your body and your mind abstract thinking.
So my opinion is, that every aspect can be possible but if you revert back to your previous body, chances are you again revert to your initial perspective, but that depends on the reason behind why you like the new things and if those survive. Say if the reason you love dicks as a girl was because on your female brain there's some evolutionary blueprint of the feel and shape you are supposed to like, but in your male brain is absent, then you don't have an actual reason anymore to like it. But if the reason is otherwise or is abstract, then it might survive outside the body. So if the explanation is reasonable enough you can have both situations.
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>>6698584
How can the brain/mind/self be anything BUT the ship? Who you are is how you think, how you feel, how you act. Change one and you've changed who you are. To phrase it any other way is to get it backwards.

What makes TG so engaging on that level is that it forces the subject to wrestle with the change and themselves. In trying to not to lose themselves, they have to figure out and confront just who they are to begin with. At least, that's the way I see it.

>It's one thing to say that you want to go back and your not going to let anything stop you, but there's no reason to force yourself to suffer just out of spite for the situation.

To be fair, if you're going with the dysphoria angle, it's more than just "spite" for the circumstances.
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Anyone know if the story about the guy working in a robot body on a space cruise liner that gets feminized got updated by its writefag?
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>>6696013
I really like stories about a couple that changes genders, man into woman and woman to man. Or about two friends who take turns switching genders and being fuck buddies.
The problem is that they aren't that popular, and there's not a whole lot of conflict them anyway. My ideal story has a short term swap, followed by the couple coming back for more.

>>6698584
Thing is, not everyone is that logical about it. A lot of people would lose their shit at the physical change, let alone any mental ones. Its both cultural and mental issue, not wanting to change you ways or have them changed for you.
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>>6697243
BTW, do you have any recommendations of anything similar?
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>>6696977

>TGFA

Time for a nostalgia wank. Haven't been on that site for at least 5 years.
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>>6696977
>http://www.tgfa.org/fiction/MyVagina.htm

>Well, at least nobody in my family except my Grandma Jessie, who had torpedo tits but is dead now

christ
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>>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WnxdFRVfWzQinY3VoIgsqX3zvurLk5GZk2HbIDvoVyc/mobilebasic?pli=1

I find myself going back to read this occasionally. One of the best mtf tg stories I've read. Just a shame it's unfinished.
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>>6696977
I assume you've read The Whale Tail?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WnxdFRVfWzQinY3VoIgsqX3zvurLk5GZk2HbIDvoVyc/edit
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>>6699154
>>6699178
Oh, what a coincidence.
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>>6696013

Reality bending to suit the transformation and always being a happy set up usually does it for me. Expecally if it's a new life so happy that the victim can't help but be creeped out (think being morphed into a teenage girl who's family loves hugging and drags them out just a bit too long) Any fantasies beyond that usually involve me casting spells to gender swap other people.

The biggest boner killer for me though aside from identity death is when the magic creates new people as opposed to just brain washing them to think the person was always a woman. I don't know why but I just hate it when the spell just makes a husband and children out of no where. I'm fine with an existing man being made the husband and having her already being pregnant though.
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>>6698584
>not sum of parts
>continues to describe how it is sum of parts using different words

that's a lot of typing to say nothing.
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>>6699226
similar.

the one with the power is also the one with the responsibility. logically I desire to be the one with reality bending powers.

emotionally however, I'd like to be the partner of that person. there's something alluring about not being on control but also being able to trust that the person who is will make sure everything works out in the end.
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>>6699372

That second one was only the caption image. Did you actually follow the link? It's a story.
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>>6699372
There is a reason for why nobody loves you on real life.
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>>6699395

>on real life.

The '98 show or the '14 show?
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I am new to this fetish.

Anyone has a recomendation list for artists on pixiv or DA?
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>>6698806
I was hoping there'd be more but the guy clearly lost steam after the first two chapters. There was a third chapter, but it wasn't very long and was clearly rushed and uninspired. (although people were praising it here anyways)

Haven't heard/seen from him since.
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>>6699432
I always thought the seaweed thing was a girl anyway
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>>6699443
They showed up in a /d/ thread a few days after 3 was posted said there was progress and there would be an update soon. Never heard anything from them after that and it's been at least a week.
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>>6699432
Ones I particularly enjoy on Pixiv are delta-TSF, Vae (ヴァエ), and Mikaduki Neko (三日月ネコ).

Delta's works are kinda weird and surreal most the time, Vae's is oftentimes lazy but has a lot of charm in it, and Mikaduki Neko puts his whole heart into making it look like his main characters are having the time of their life.
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>>6699378
What I'm trying to say is that you, your identity, your inner-self, is the part of you that, presented with every little detail of your life decides what to do with all of that information. Just because you've decided to do something differently doesn't mean YOU have changed at all. If you got stuck in a girls body and discovered that it was more convenient to dress and act the part that's just you following your true self.

This, the answer to the question "Who are you?", the identity, the nature, even the soul, it cannot be changed or lost "normally", not even by you.

I guess there is an exception though, when it comes to direct mental interference. Complete mind control is definitely enough, which goes straight into identity death. Maybe being in a different body with a different brain chemistry WOULD result in that "loss of self", but you can't fight that. It's done and over with as soon as the transformation finishes.
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>>6699932
The real take away from this is there is nothing to fear because you are always you and if you aren't you it doesn't matter anymore because you are someone else.

Anyway, back to my original post is that the stories focus on philosophical nonsense worries, the characters hurt themselves because of it. Of course, I guess there wouldn't really be much of a story if they focused on a character who actually TRIED to adapt even if everything was terrible.
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>>6699932
Well, I disagree. It seems like you don't really know too many people who have undergone some major changes, or at least you resent them enough to say that's who they always were. Events in life can lead a person down a mental pathway that ends in the quite certain identity death of their old self.

I definitely underwent something like that; I vehemently regret the person I was ten years ago. And I'm pretty sure ten years ago I wouldn't want to be me today, either, so how is this not a form of identity death? Unless you believe in souls or something.
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Part 2 was finally in the Unreal comics from February.

Look into sad Panda's fresh arrival in the "Gender" tag.

This is the best thing that was released in two years and it is a series with at least 3 entries. This thing is glorious.
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>>6700073
Sweet mother of god, someone needs to translate this ASAP. The wait for this felt like an eternity, and now I find out it's a 3-parter? I haven't been this excited for a TG doujin in a long, long time.
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>>6700073
>>6700154
http://exhentai.org/g/908463/4ddc7fe20c/?p=8 Starts on page 171. Many faps were had.
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>>6700022
>>6699953
Philosophical debates are my fetish
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So I just finished reading Baku Girl [at least up to 71], any more mangas like that? It was interesting.
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>>6700178
that's what monogatari is for.
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>>6700179

Try Kanojo ni Naru Hi, Kanojo ni Naru Hi Another, Ame Nochi Hare, and Nozomu Nozomi
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>>6699154
We need a real end to this. Is the author still working on it? Do we need to come up with an ending ourselves?
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v9yvYf6r2SICy5nP7Q7XGVJBUr7woSuFj3DCeYqqPIU/edit?usp=sharing

Commisioned this from a friend of mine, the last part is a bit rushed, but he should get back to polishing it up on the coming weeks.
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>>6696013
Scenario one: a MILF plague sweeps humanity, with those who attempt to fortify their communities to stop them dragged out and transformed "for their own good." Lots of gentle femdom and a touch of futa.

Scenario two: the nastiest, bitchiest, Frappachino Feminist you can imagine gets turned into a ottermode hunk of a man and doesn't know how to handle it.

I'm writing something now that isn't either of those two. I don't think it's any good but I feel that it has to be done.
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>>6690126

The pixiv tag where that OP pic comes from has expanded quite a bit

http://www.pixiv.net/search.php?s_mode=s_tag_full&word=pixiv%E7%89%9D%E5%8C%96%E9%A8%8E%E5%A3%AB%E5%9B%A3%E9%99%B5%E8%BE%B1
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>>6700635
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>>6699694
Like I said, they clearly lost steam after the second chapter.

You'll probably never see anything more from them.
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>>6700159
gallery seems to have been removed. mirrors?
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>>6700853
rip, was a pretty fapworthy idea.
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>>6700073
>>6700159
Here's the link to part 1 for anyone curious: http://exhentai.org/g/868356/0ef927460d/
And the link to the first page of part 2: http://exhentai.org/s/e726486b35/908463-171
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>>6701407
Both are already removed, what is happening?
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>>6701618
are you getting a sad pands
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>>6701649
I've never not gotten the sad panda.

I have no idea what I'm doing.
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>>6701763
Are you converting from exhentai to g.e-hentai? That works for some galleries, but for these, you need to learn how to get past the sadpanda. Look up the "exhentai easy" extension.
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>>6701777
Man, that just reminded me of Hentaiverse. I got to like level 30 there, a
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Woops. -and even still, I just gave up at that point, waited two weeks or so, and then finally I was able to get in.
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>>6701626
I wish X-change had more translations. What do they have 6? 7?
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>>6701907
Looks eastern enough for me.

It IS about the aesthetic, right?
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>>6701926
It's about whatever the mods feel like deleting.
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>>6690151
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>>6701907
>Being this autistic about porn
>Current Year
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>>6701907
Announcing that you will report is also against the rules and could make you be banned genius.
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>>6701763
God damnit, there are still people not knowing sad panda. Get your hands out of you ass and look for exhentai faggot.
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You know what makes my dick DIAMONDS
when the girl looks nearly or exactly the same as she did when he was a boy, just with girl parts, boobs/vagina.

I've seen so many stories where the nerdy boy turns into the hot chick who craves sex. Its not that good.
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>>6690608
>http://pastebin.com/ChAHBMFA
Holy shieet that was good, specially that last line. It makes it really hard to masterbate with such a good writing. Or easier. I don't know.

Where do you want this to go next?
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>>6700022
Different anon here. I'm the same, in that I'm an entirely different person now than I was 15 years ago. But I still (just about) remember what it was like to be that person. A whole lot of traits have carried over, some things like aptitudes and skills. A whole lot of subconscious baggage.

So yeah, I don't think that's identity death. Identity evolution maybe. A gradual, coherent change, usually due to changes in environment or exposure to new experiences. That is kind of the whole axe of my grandfather/ship of Theseus thing.

Except there's some basic stuff - how you think, as in the way you shape your thoughts, how you instinctively react to new stimulus, the kind of mental habits you lean towards - that's kind of stuff that you learn before you can talk and that you can only ever build on, where even the tiniest change takes years of therapy. That's the things I point at when I think of what makes me who I am, or rather, what stops me from ever being someone else.

On the other hand this is the kind of discussion people found academic careers on and spend decades trying to find a satisfactory answer.
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Hey people, I have been thinking on some ideas lately, usually stuff that I see often liked on other parts of 4chan, but that are rarelly explored.


>christmas cake tg, which basically means an older 25+ guy turning into a woman that is eager to marry someone and a little insecure about being alone at that age.

>guy transform his entire family but no one can notice the differences. In this you get his father turning into a busty milf that also is a coach, and an older brother that becomes a laid back punk girl, while he himself becomes a tomboy.

>12 old boy is going to be babysitted by a 15 years old guy. He obviously doesnt like it, but quicly change his mind when the older babysitter becomes a girl, think about that "cool laid back girl" archetype, with /ss/ undertones.

>fantasy tg, where a bard, a paladin, a wizard and a rogue are TGed in mind and body by a Lich. Paladin becomes a younger bairmaid, bardbecomes a dancer, smug wizard looses his confidence and becomes a shy whitch and the rogue...well, there is a twist with ther rogue.

What you think about them? Which one would you rather read?
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>>6702000
I like this a lot too senpai.

Its underrated, even more if they have similar personalitties, maybe with a more feminine spin. Best TGs keep some elements after the transformation.
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>>6701978
Yeah, but why bother telling him that? Just let nature take its course, man.
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>>6702009
I'm going to be honest, familia, that all sounds pretty banging.
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TTWF here.

>>6702003

Well, while there are some moral quandaries for Lisa to mull over, but later on I'll be delving in to a bit of romance. /u/ romance, granted. So if you're not in to that you might want to bail at some point. >_>
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>>6702000
>>6702023
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It has been 3 years since the site was last updated.

http://castle.midnightaurora.com/

Who here /nostalgiachildhoodfaps/
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>>6702434

mashiro's castle was like an incredible treasure trove back when I was younger
also farhad's site
man so much nostalgia...
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>>6702446

and of course the wedding dress one
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>>6702447
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>>6702009
that all sounds great, especially the fantasy one. i'd love to see the part with the wizard.
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>>6702009
I really like the second and fourth one, those prompts are right up my alley. The third one is pretty good too but the first seems uninteresting, not much you could do with it in my eyes.
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>>6702445
Yo this one is really well done. Didn't expect it to be so well animated.
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Time-Travel Writefag here with further Writefaggotry of the time-travel variety. Part 4 of the story has been completed.

Part 4: http://pastebin.com/dgfm999X

Still lacking in fap-content I will admit, but I promise it'll be coming soon enough.

And of course for laziness' sake, parts 1-3.

Part 1: http://pastebin.com/UEb8Mkiy

Part 2: http://pastebin.com/w12E90ND

Part 3: http://pastebin.com/ChAHBMFA
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>>6702774

Fap content or not, this story is gold already!

I just love how the main character struggles with the changes and the conflict of memories. Hope to see more!
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>>6700571
I like it.
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>>6701966
That blush is adorable.
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>>6702263
I am all about the /u/, you've no idea.
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>>6699178
Urgh... this needs to be continued!
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Anons! Know any other good stories like "The Whale Tail"?
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>>6703191
Please don't post images that are that badly drawn.
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>>6702840

Oh wow, this is really cool! Do you know the source?
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>>6700022
It's not identity death, because personality is not identity.
In principle, if changing yourself killed your identity, then it would be impossible to improve yourself (as that is contradictory with your definitions), which makes no sense, as you can in fact improve yourself.
If you are overweight, you can work out and become healthy, does that mean you cease to be who you were? No, you are an improved version of yourself.
How does one know how to improve? Is improving merely subjective? No, it is empirical. Good and bad objectively exists and can be viewed through empiricism.
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>>6703437
Not the other guy but wtf I just read? neither good or bad empirically exist, what the hell are you trying to sell here? Morality is a human concept and creation, no fundamental law of nature or otherwise follows a good or bad morality, it's a social event and as such depends on it's social values.
What the hell anon, are you insane or just trolling?
Also while I might agree, improving doesn't kill your old self, there's always a point where too much change eventually leads to a completely new you, is up to everyone to judge how big or how many thinks to change it takes. Some people just for changing a small thing it means a world and leads to a completely new personality, others can be seen totally different than before but they themselves feel the same as before, is all relative, there's not absolute dude.
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>>6702309
2 and 3 are the best. Though, 3 only works if there is a good story
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>>6702757
Its not in any way sexually charged, but there's a part in a manga called sentou hakai gakuen dangerous where this big ol banchou fucker gets turned into a loli, if you are inclined to care.

Nothing sexual comes of it, but its worth mentioning.
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>>6703437
>WHARGARBL
what we have here is a failure to understand that words actually have definitions.
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well, this sucks. I'm looking for this online text game where you start off as a boy who gets turned into a girl by his sister who then goes off into this massive labyrinth. You then stock up and enter the maze and have multiple choices to pick from that alter the outcome. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
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>>6704065
That should be into the dungeon from lilysgames.com
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>>6704069
CHEERS BIG EARS
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Get it while it last.
Non-Hentai version here
>>>/a/138020572
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>>6704196
Hm... not much good as fap material, but still moderately amusing. That's better than I've seen in /a/ or /jp/ in some time, really.
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>>6703516
Is that the one where the MC can make you a grill by ripping your balls off and there is a guy with indestructible floating eyeballs?
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>>6703451
Good and bad do empirically exist. If you've read Aristotle or Plato, it will make perfect sense.
Suppose that you accept the existence of the external universe (which is not necessarily true, but we will assume it to be true, as it is a reasonable assumption).
Consider an acorn, this acorn has a telos to become an oak tree. The acorn could also become food for a squirrel, or it could become a weapon, etc. However its telos is to become an oak tree. How do we know what this telos is? We observe it empirically. The acorn will want to become an oak tree regardless of whether or not a human is thinking about acorns, and hence the form of an acorn or oak tree exists independently of human thought. Sure, this telos may very well be an idea (as it is the purpose of an ideal acron), but that doesn't mean it is a human construction, it is merely a supernatural/aphysical form of the acorn (i.e. Plato's theory of the forms). This is much like numbers. If you accept that the universe exists, then the number "4" exists regardless of whether humans construct it or not. As there can be 4 of an item independently of humans, we merely observe the number 4 and interpret it, but we do not create it, it is an aphysical idea. Furthermore, what is good is what enables this acorn to reach its telos, and what is bad is what impedes it. Hence, good and bad objectively exist.
Hence so long as you accept that the universe exists and are not a solipsist, "good" and "bad" are empirical phenomenon.
>>6703761
What definition do we not agree on? "Identity death"? Please specify what you mean exactly.
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Please, let's not discuss metaphisics on the fetish porn thread.
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>Furthermore, what is good is what enables this acorn to reach its telos, and what is bad is what impedes it.
That's the dumbest goddamn thing I've heard. An acorn doesn't fucking know whether it becomes a tree or not; if any empirical good exists, it's grounded in the principle that suffering is to be avoided and happiness/liberty/enlightenment/Principle Of Your Choice That Can Only Be Experienced Through Sentience is to be maximized.

Also, are you seriously citing an ancient Greek to "disprove" a theory developed in the modern era? To say nothing of trying to categorically prove/disprove ANYTHING objectively through philosophy? Get real, jackass.

"Telos." Fuck you. Empirical observation is showing me that your "telos" is to shitpost.
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>>6704417
thats the one.
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>>6704513
Funny that you assume I haven't read them, funnier that you also assume that by reading someone else interpretation one must suddenly fall on their knees and praise them.
Many long time idols in many fields have fallen when new discoveries have been made, so don't get cocky just because you like them.
You argue as bad and good, empirically exist is flawed because they both can be interchanged and an event can be both evaluated as good or bad at the same time which it's a conflict, following that reason one might say, there's not good or bad, as they are the same thing and we just use good or bad for our convenience. The acorn doesn't know about good or bad, proof of that is:
For instance, have a small island where that acorn growing and fulfilling it's purpose is apparently the good thing, yet, at some point all acorns present fulfill it, which from your argument should be the greatest possible good yet that leads to supersaturation and the premature death of all, as there's not enough land and they dry out the soil, then one might say, hmm maybe all fulfilling their purpose as their were supposed to wasn't the actual right thing, since it lead to a very bad event for them, if they knew outside of human knowledge that they weren't all supposed to be good and grow, they might have survived longer or developed some strategy to survive! Which would have been better for them. Then, there's no good or bad, just events, and we just have a few abstract concepts to categorize them, but they don't exist empirically, because they aren't separate things, same as four is not an empirical four, just learn some quantum physics and complex numbers then you'll know why it isn't..
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>>6704733
Stop.

Nobody here cares we want to fap.
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