No cum thread? Let's fix that.
whoops. reverse sequence, sorry.
i don't know if we have a abiding interest of the holy grail experience. we will see.
at the moment i'm on day 10 at taking pygeum, zinc, lecithin and citrulline malate.
it's my second experience of taking holy grail supplements.
at the first time i took pygeum, zinc, lecithin and l-arginine. i read citrulline malate is better than l-arginine. my precum was only a few single drops at a edging session.
it increase slightly. my cum amount stay stable when i cum every day. normally is will lesser and become thinner day by day. i hope it will increase more. her are the amount a few day before taking the supplements and afterwards. i will take a cum break for a few day and will see how much cum i save up.
day -7: 4 ml
day -6: 4 ml
day -5: 3 ml
day -4: 2 ml
day -2: 4 ml
day -1: 4 ml
day 1: 3 ml
day 2: 4 ml
day 3: 5 ml
day 4: 3 ml
day 5: 4 ml
day 6: 5 ml
day 7: 4 ml
day 8: 4 ml
Anyone know if the holy grail would have any adverse effects if taken with my antidepressants?
>>6032094
Looks like a 1-2ml increase so far. Wait til day 14 and start abstaining a couple of days, I bet you will easily double in volume if not more.
How much lecithin and citruline/arginine are you taking? I found about 3000-5000mg of lecithin a day was the sweet spot.
>>6032933
i take 2x 200mg pygeum, 1x 100mg zinc, 1x 1200mg lecithin and 1x 1000mg citrulline malate.
should i increase the lecithin dosage? 3000-5000 sounds a bit overdone.
i think about to double the citrulline malate dosage. as i took l-arginine my boner was hard as fuck. i felt the erection till the pubococcygeus muscle and i heard citrulline malate works better but i'm only at day 11 so i wait a bit.
yeah i "abstaining" since 3 days and with "abstaining" i mean edging like hell.
>>6033564
1200mg won't do much, try upping the dose for a couple of weeks and see if it has any affect.
>yeah i "abstaining" since 3 days and with "abstaining" i mean edging like hell.
Hot, let us know your volume when you blow :3
>>6029879
>You will never be a large breasted alien /fit/ girl with a cum fetish
why live
>>6038286
That's strange, you would expect a big difference after 6 days. Sometimes cumshots are like that though.
>>6040335
yeah. i don't believed to a big difference but a little bit more would be nice.
>>6036245
Any more of Angel?
>>6032094
I am a firm believer that the holy grail is bullshit. I have always cum quite a bit (around 10ml, sometimes more) but I wanted to cum even more than that. So I tried the holy grail for a couple weeks. I saw a general slight decrease while using them.
>>6041869
i think it works different strong from people to people. so it's not so holy but i recognize a slight increase of precum and cum. with the l-arginine i was hard and horny as fuck. citrulline malate don't works so good to me.
sadly no supplements can increase it to 100ml cum and a endless stream of precum.
some dreams can't become true :-(
>>6041869
>I have always cum quite a bit (around 10ml, sometimes more)
We need pictures for science.
Anon from last thread here. I've run out of supplements besides my ZMA but I'm taking a break for now.
After the last thread I reached 12 mL after 4 days but most of the time I was around 8 mL after a 30 minute fap. My volume has decreased by around a 1/3 since stopping but hasn't completely gone back to normal.
>>6042779
Sorry to hear that anon. My volume at least doubled while on the stack. I've had pretty big cumshots before starting though.
can anyone explain why this is my fetish? is it common?
>>6052605
i think is very common. not for nothing cumshot is called moneyshot in the porn business. it's maybe the thought, the more the cum the better the orgasm.
>>6029868
this one is just perfect
i wish this would be my morning
>>6053540
I don't know man, must suck to clean that up every morning
>>6053560
ok i want this and a housemaid who lick me clean and change the sheet.
>>6052605
More cum = more virile?
>>6031037
souce ?!
>>6053676
It's all over her face.
>>6032094
>>6033564
update time
day 8: 4 ml
day 13: 4ml
day 14: 4 ml
day 16: 6 ml
day 19: 5 ml
day 20: 4 ml
i must realise the holy grail increase my cum load very low it's more like stabilisation on 4 ml. without supplements it goes lower. my precum amount is ok, with a few kegels and reverse kegels it flow enough to lube it nice. hornyness isn't so strong like with l-arginine.
>>6054218
>i must realise the holy grail increase my cum load very low it's more like stabilisation on 4 ml.
This may be true. The anons that report the most benefit often say they could only get the same results from edging before, so maybe the holy grail just puts you at your natural maximum.
>>6057129
it's a bit more. i do edging all the time. another anon say the supplements double his amount. i think it works different strong at the consumer.
>>6057137
The other anon started around 5-6ml and ended up around 10-11ml if I remember right. Did he ever say what he was taking and how much though?
Fuck it, I'm going to have to measure as well now.
>>6053560
Just leave it like it is
>>6057658
But what about the smell? Or all the dried cum in the sheets
>>6057774
i bet after 3 mornings it's like lying on a chipboard
3 days on Lecithin and I got nothing. How long does it normally take to take any real effect?
>>6058600
at least a week maybe a bit more
>>6054218
I've done some research.
Take zinc at 50mg with 3mg of copper once a day with 3-5g of folic acid.
Pygeum is good at 100mg-200mg a day.
L arginine I'd take with L lysine and dose it at 1.5-3g a day for both. This is all how your body responds, everyone is different. I'd probably take 1-1.5g a day of each and then when you know you might be having sex up it.
Lecithin, take 1200mg/day, but again, if you know you want to shoot a big load, crush out like 15-20g the days before. 1200mgx5, 3 times throughout the day. Apparently it really only works well if you load it in, but obviously don't do it all the time.
Also, something like horny goat weed or tribulus would be good to take in small amounts to the days you know you might have pussy, then obviously up it a little bit on the day you're getting pussy.
Then keep hydrated as fuck, gallon of water a day. Throw in some pineapple juice and celery, because of myths, who cares, they're not bad for you anyways.
Obviously don't fap every day either.
Thas all I got
>>6062431
so i double the dosage of lecithin at day 8. maybe i try a higher dosage just for science.
the last shot of 7 ml was nice. i would like to see a bigger load.
day 8: 4 ml
day 13: 4 ml
day 14: 4 ml
day 16. 6 ml
day 19: 5 ml
day 20: 4 ml
day 24: 7 ml
>Obviously don't fap every day either.
i fap every day but no cumming every day. i love edging. for what is horny goat weed or tribulus? cum amount? precum? more precum would be nice.
Check out the supplement subforum on Thunder's. A guy is experimenting with different stuff and recording the results.
>The Celery Seed Experiment
>Celery seed proved a great, multi-faceted aphrodisiac. It significantly increased both my sperm volume and my overall cum volume. It increased my libido, and made my erections come easier and harder. It definitely caused morning wood, and lots of it. And all this was on a relatively small dose.
>Dose: ½ to 5/8 tsp whole celery seeds, chewed/ground, with breakfast
>Effect on Cum Volume: Solid increase (~11%)
>Effect on Sperm Volume: Significant increase (~26%)
>Effect on Libido: Solid increase, on average, but this effect proved uneven; erections come easier and are harder
>Side Effects: Possibly caused some restless sleeping and nasal congestion from swelling while sleeping
You may want to add it to your stacks.
I have a cum question and figured a cum thread would be the best place for it. So according to the holy grail of cum guide, drinking lots of water increases load size, and eating fruit makes it taste better. Does that mean if I drink a lot of fruit juice, I can hit two birds with one stone? Or does cum not work like that?
>>6063853
sounds like it's worth a try.
>>6064245
should work this way. important is to be well hydrated. which water source is not so important. but remember, alcoholic drinks are a bad water source. especially for your cum and avoid tobacco too. i must confess i have no experience in cum taste improvement but i would appreciate if you share you experience.
So, side effects. Anyone's hair fallen out yet from taking, say, pygeum? Grown tits?
I'd love to drool precum just by being horny.
>>6064284
i never read about side effects and i never notice side effects
>I'd love to drool precum just by being horny.
damn yes. thats the goal.
>>6064284
The worst thing that will happen to you is an upset stomach or nausea. Anons in the past have also reported it being hard to sleep because they need to cum. Zinc is the only potentially dangerous supplement taken in excess.
You should cycle the stack anyway, 3-4 weeks on 1-2 weeks off.
Some people have used things like clomid, hcg and proviron for massive loads but those mess with your hormones. That can have all kinds of side effects.
>>6064259
Any idea if soda is at all bad for load size. I drink more than enough water in a day, but I also like to throw back a soda every night to relax
>>6064344
as long as you avoid alcohol and too much caffeine every water source is fine.
>>6063721
>day 24: 7 ml
Nice, that's almost double your normal volume.
Here's to 8ml and beyond.
>>6064344
Doesn't cum have a lot of sugars in it anyway?
These threads man...
>>6065136
>guys talking about how to ejaculate lots and lots
It's so hot. I hope you all have cumsluts to savor every last drop and support you. Cumming so much deserves it.
>>6065531
yeah. strong bull willingly to be milked to the max, searching for a cum greedy sweety for a life drenched in pussy juice and cum.
>>6065443
>i hope for a 10ml load
Looks like you're getting closer, only another 3ml to go.
>>6068328
i'll do my best
>>6045388
I drew this a while ago
Maybe I should have waited until my art improved because now it looks weird to me.
>>6069467
Alright
>>6069467
Do it again so we can compare
Who draws the best semen in your opinion?
>>6071139
idk there are too many good artists out there
>>6071927
except that one, along with millions of others
>>6071139
g kilo-byte for sure.
![1277420268524[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5xQJVsZ.jpg "1277420268524[1].jpg")
>>6071139
eroquis
so thick and goopy
>>6074959
good cum, but monsters plague almost all his work.. he's a sick fuck. how some people can fap with an abomination in the same frame is beyond me.
Is there any reason I [i]shouldn't get the pygeum with saw palmetto? Seems to be a lot easier to find in that combonation
>>6078367
I mean, if you're alright with lower testosterone, which generally means lower libido, saw palmetto is fine, I think. Anyone else want to chime in?
>tfw you'll never be able to cum so much that it would qualify as waterboarding
>>6078554
why living?! :-(
Welp, after reading this thread I had to measure my load. Came to 7cc. It doesn't seem like much.
If I took the holy grail how soon would I see an increase?
Also, fuck cumming in syringes.
>>6079719
i notice a difference after a week
>>6063853
Update from Thunder's:
>The L-Arginine + Horny Goat Weed Experiment
>L-arginine (L-A) has a solid reputation for boosting cum loads, which I have confirmed through trying it in the past; along with pork, it has yielded the most impressive results of anything I’ve tried. I was mainly (or maybe solely? It was too long ago to remember for sure) using L-A when I had my biggest recorded cum shots ever of 11.5 ml.
>L-arginine substantially boosts my cum volume, though it has no effect on my sperm volume. As a bonus, in larger doses it makes me consistently have my biggest possible flaccid length.
>Dose: 500 mg Vitamin Shoppe Standardized Herbs Horny Goat Weed (with maca extract and other herbal extracts) + 500, 1000, or 1500 mg L-arginine (capsules), pre-breakfast and/or pre-lunch
>Effect on Cum Volume (vs. baseline): Substantial increase (~16%)
>Effect on Cum Volume (vs. HGW baseline): Decent increase (~12%)
>Effect on Libido: Result inconclusive, but likely significantly increases libido (from the HGW)
>>6080143
after take l arginine over a week i was horny as fuck with the hardest boner ever. i think it works better for me as citrulline malate.
>>6053561
I want that AND to be the maid
>>6053561
>>6081398
>>6085600
these shops are lovely
Not cum-related but is there anything that can make erections really frequent, like, making someone excessively horny all the time?
>>6086012
l-arginine or citrulline malate works good to make you hornier. edging helps too. the first time as i edged for a whole week i a was horny as fuck the whole day. it was like hell/fucking hot.
>>6086029
How much citruline per day? How much mg is the limit?
>>6086173
i took 1000mg l-arginine once daily. at the moment a take 2000mg citrulline malate once daily. package label of both say 3000mg daily are the max dosage.
>>6079719
>>6079731
Welp, my supps arrived today. Here's my stack:
- L-Arginine
- Lecithin Granules
- Zinc with Selenium
- Celery Seed
- Tribulus Terrestris
- Pygeum with Saw Palmetto
Just tried a tablespoon of Lecithin and it tastes like what I imagine fish food tastes like. I'm definitely going to have to mix this with something.
I will try to measure my load at regular intervals but it kinda ruins the orgasm cumming in a syringe.
Good luck to anyone else out there looking for bigger loads.
>>6086527
>I will try to measure my load at regular intervals but it kinda ruins the orgasm cumming in a syringe.
I cum on my desk and scrape it into a small measuring cup thing.
>>6029888
Holy shit that's hot, anyone know the artist?
>>6086848
Looks like an edit of an Amagami picture.
http://iqdb.org/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ft.4cdn.org%2Fd%2F1425512997147s.jpg
I see everyone talking about dosage, but how am I supposed to take 1000, 2000 or 3000 mg of, say, citrulline if they sell 500 mg per bottle?
>>6087123
Powder > pills.
>>6087123
i have 1000 mg per capsule
>>6086527
Wish you good luck for a big load far over 10ml
I'm naturally between 6-8ml on average. If I take those vitamins what's going to happen?
>>6088521
You'll flood the world with cum, duh.
Which obviously means you should do it.
>>6081400
This looks like Yui Toshiki's work. It never fails to get me hard, and I have no idea why.
>>6088521
Suppliments, rather. Vitamins has a much more strict definition.
And it all depends. May have zero effect or flood cum.
>>6033564
>>6032094
100mg of zinc is waaaaay too much, you should probably drop it entirely, it's easy to get zinc toxicity at 55mg/day and you've blown way past that.
Really, taking zinc isn't worth it. Either reduce your supplementation to less than 25mg/day or eliminate it entirely, if you're eating a balanced diet you shouldn't need to supplement your zinc intake in the first place.
>>6041869
>I have always cum quite a bit (around 10ml, sometimes more)
Pics or it didn't happen.
Plus, trying it for a couple weeks won't do shit. You have to balance getting more water, eating better, taking the supplements, and experimenting with supplement ratios for maximum benefit. You also have to stop taking zinc because you'll just poison yourself and that certainly won't help your loads.
>>6063853
How the fuck is he differentiating sperm volume and cum volume? Obviously the two are different, but they come out pretty well mixed. This guy needs to record his methods and properly quantify his data.
>>6064416
>>6065443
Cum is practically 2/3rds fructose.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semen#Composition_of_human_semen
>>6065443
Some say you shouldn't take more than 2400mg Lechithin
>>6090337
I read a good dosage is 2000-3000. I will do some more research before i take more.
>>6090337
Probably due to the choline content. Too much of that without anything to deplete it quickly can be depressive.
But it's extremely well tolerated at higher doses. So it's technically fine, just not likely to benefit.
>>6087039
Danke schon bb
Are girl out there who like big cum loads?
>>6089543
>Cum is practically 2/3rds fructose.
sounds like a good sugar alternative. healthy as fuck.
>>6092634
Well yes more cum = bigger orgasm = I satisfied you better.
>>6095364
That's ok and all, as long as you keep in mind that it's fetish logic and that the reality can be different.
>>6096394
>it's not disgusting if you blow your bf and he fill your mouth to the brim?
That's hot as fuck and pretty much the perfect size. Some girls find it gross but they just don't understand what it means for the their man to cum so much
>>6097290
It means he's been eating healthy
>>6063721
update time.
day 19: 5 ml
day 20: 4 ml
day 24: 7 ml
day 27: 7 ml
day 31: 6 ml
day 47: 7 ml
so after the higher dosage of lecithin (now 2400 mg) my load is steady at 6-7 ml. i try a new dosage of 3600 mg. i read a lot about much higher dosage with no problems. i want to reach 10 ml.
>>6097290
you are the kind of girl that can milk a man to the max.
>>6098444
Looks like it took 2 weeks from upping your dose to seeing a consistent increase.
What supps are you taking? Are you on l-arginine as well? You could try increasing that as well. Combined with the bigger dose of lecithin it could push you into 10+ ml territory in another few weeks.
>>6099335
i take 2x 200mg pygeum, 1x 2400mg lecithin, 1x 100mg zinc 1x 1000mg citrulline malate. the citrulline malate is soon all gone. then i take 1000 mg l-arginine. someone said citrulline malate work better than l-arginine but as i took the first time the holy grail i used l-arginine. my boner felt stronger as now with citrulline malate. will see how it turns with l-arginine again.
Reading this thread brings out an impressive list of ingredients:
>L-Arginine
>Lecithin
>Zinc
>Selenium
>Citrulline Malate
>Horny Goat Weed
>Tribulus Terrestris
>Pygeum
>Saw palmetto
>Folic Acid
>Celery seeds
>Copper
Is this the making of a Holy Grail: Nuclear Option list?
>>6102182
add fish oil for hornyness. i haven't tested yet but the pills are here. i'll try it when the citrulline Malate is gone.
>>6102182
Then there's hormone stuff like Clomid, Proviron and HCG which is also meant to give you huge cumshots.
>>6103005
>>6102201
>>6102182
So then for the REAL holy grail, it should be a combination of
>L-Arginine (1500 mg daily)
>Lecithin (3000mg daily)
>Zinc (25mg daily)
>Selenium (?)
>Citrulline Malate (1000mg daily)
>Horny Goat Weed (500mg daily)
>Tribulus Terrestris (?)
>Pygeum (200mg twice daily)
>Saw palmetto (?)
>Folic Acid (5g daily)
>Celery seeds (5/8 tsp daily)
>Copper (3mg Daily)
>Fish Oil (?)
>Clomid (25mg daily for 25 days, 5 days rest)
>Proviron (25mg daily)
>HCG (1500 to 2000 IU injections three times a week)
What would this do to someone?
>>6103098
Technically, the ``REAL'' holy grail is a proper diet and a ton of water. Deficiencies cause the most issues with such things.
And if you mean a holy grail overall rather than just a cum one, there's several more substances for various effects you might want.
It's all heavily dependent on the person as well. You can't really buckshot everything like that.
>>6103098
Combining arginine and citruline seems kinda redundant, don't they do the same thing?
As for clomid/hcg/proviron, I don't know but it's probably a bad idea to combine a load of estrogen/testosterone boosters.
>>6103368
Supposedly increased efficacy due to differing transport methods.
And I wouldn't recommend messing with sexual hormones unless you KNOW you have pre-existing issues with them. It's simply a bad idea.
The only hormone I would mess with directly is melatonin, personally.
>>6103287
>if you mean a holy grail overall rather than just a cum one, there's several more substances for various effects you might want.
Do tell please
>>6103640
Do ask. What effects are you looking for?
>>6103641
i want to get more precum. a bigger cumload is optional.
>>6103648
Well precum comes from semen production just the same. Standard grail should help with that fine.
>>6103654
yeah it work a bit but sadly not like this "dripping like a faucet" thing
>>6103659
I've found that only to happen when severely aroused.
500mg Maca 4:1 does a damn good job at that for me. But like with all aphrodisiacs, it differs greatly from person to person.
Having a soft, sensitive head helps too. Rubbing some pure aloe and vitamin E on there daily does a good job at that.
>>6103661
i will try to take maca to my supplements
>>6103641
Not that anon but what I want is:
>unbelievably huge cumshot
>big balls
>zero refractory period
>really intense orgasms
>wet dreams every night
I think I might be the only anon that enjoys waking up to a wet dream.
>>6103671
>>zero refractory period
That one can be supplemented. But doing so is quite reckless, messing with prolactin↔dopamine.
Another option is to learn to dry orgasm from kegel muscles. That is, ironically to the thread, to orgasm WITHOUT ejaculation.
Shortly after climax, a shit ton of clear precum generally flows out, and there is zero refractory period. But it doesn't feel like a release, rather like an intensely sensitizing satiation.
>really intense orgasms
The best option for that actually isn't supplemental. Generally one would go for prostate stimulation. Preferably standalone massages without phallic stimulation, but that takes a ton of patience, relaxation, and practice.
>wet dreams
Well, the best option would be to focus on lucidity and rear them into the right direction.
The fact that cum dries up quickly when exposed to air and becomes flaky as hell makes this harder to enjoy.
>>6103685
>That one can be supplemented. But doing so is quite reckless, messing with prolactin↔dopamine.
Just out of interest what would you use to do that and how does it work?
>Another option is to learn to dry orgasm from kegel muscles.
I may have experienced that before, it's pretty awesome. I like my fap sessions to be really drawn out and messy, so that's something I should learn to master. All the cum from an ejaculation really turns me on, though.
>The best option for that actually isn't supplemental. Generally one would go for prostate stimulation.
I love prostate stimulation.
>Well, the best option would be to focus on lucidity and rear them into the right direction.
Whenever I have a wet dream it often feels like I'm in a half-sleep/awake state, so that may be one way. I would love to have them automatically (/d/ size) every morning.
I've tried edging before sleep and dropping some aphrodisiacs but I haven't had much luck.
>>6103744
I would like wet dreams every night too.
>>6105566
we need more like this
>>6104408
>sample
Semen sample?
>>6109886
sure why not
>>6106470
What would you do with all that cum every morning? Or is it more just the satisfaction of waking up to cum everywhere?
>>6111744
i like it to be horny. i love edging. is would be nice to be horny from fall asleep till wake up. presumably i would wear a condom to prevent a big mess every morning.
What is the best way to store cum? Refregiate it or freeze it down?
Also, does it go bad after some time?
I've heard that you can die from protein poisoning, would it be hazardous to drink a pint of it?
>>6029868
>sexualizing the rube
>>6112818
Yes, you will die if you drink a glass of cum
>>6060850
Evangelion
>>6112818
You have to freeze it. Unfortunately thawing it without it thinning is next to impossible in my experience.
You're better off making some fake cum.
>>6112818
>would it be hazardous to drink a pint of it?
nope. cheers!!!!!
>>6112818
Would probably be best to do some real research, instead of asking strangers on the internet.
>>6079719
>>6086527
After 2 weeks I can report a pretty big increase in my loads. I would estimate about a 50% increase at least. Feels good man. Also I'm nursing a semi all day and have a lot of pre.
Only problems have been bad stomach and sometimes nausea.
