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So do you think Riri Williams could make for a good Iron-Man?
And is it wrong that the first thing I thought of when I saw the words, "15 years old" was Iron-Man: Armored Adventures with the young Tony Stark?
>>84300503
>yet another insufferable teen genius character
>created & written by Bendis
No.
Why iron man? It looks like a woman to me...
>>84300533
this
also
who cares
marvel only stays relevant by making movies.
they use the "paul feig ghostbusters" when they try to keep their comics relevant.
What's next? A lesbian Punisher?
>>84300503
>15 year old girl enrolled in MIT and is smarter than Tony and also already made the iron man suit
>is still gonna be called IronMAN
This is too fucking good. What are they smoking? This is literally a Mary fucking Sue character.
>>84300583
But they already have Carol Danvers.
>>84300591
The name "Iron-Man" is obviously an iconic name in that universe that people may start asking questions as to where Stark is and why there is an Iron-Woman now. Stop being so retarded.
I stopped giving a fuck about Marvel a very long time ago.
>>84300503
It's gonna be shit
I guess it's better to just introduce a new teenage character than make a re-imagined one like Armored Adventures did.
Normally I would be on board with a legacy character. But
>Bendis
No thanks.
>>84300635
Bendis said she's still working on the new name.The Time interview also unironically used the term white dudes in a question.
>>84300606
And they already have a lesbian punisher
>>84300673
So technically she isn't "The New Iron-Man" and is just temporarily using the name until she becomes her own superhero?
Even SJW Twitter is mad about this, and I agree, considering it's Bendis making another legacy of an iconic character a PoC, instead of letting a PoC creator themselves make their own work.
If there was justice in the world, the alt-right and the SJWs would both ignore this out of each of their respective principles. Instead, this shit is gonna have 40 variants for issue #1, so it's gonna be a fucking hit.
Fuck the Big2.
>>84300635
If the character isn't good enough to warrant a new name it doesn't warrant creation at all.
>>84300591
>15 year old girl enrolled in MIT and is smarter than Tony and also already made the iron man suit
Wait, really? I'm not following Bendis Iron Man so I don't know - a 15yo made this, by herself [spoilers]IN A CAVE! WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS![/spoilers]?
Fuck me this makes no sense. Stark is one of the top 5 smartest minds of Earth and has a billion-dollar company bankrolling his escapades. How the fuck can a 15yo without the requisite millions of dollars build her own suit? Unless she's supernaturally intelligent, like, that's her superpower, it should be impossible for her to do that. Fuck, tell any MIT student to make an iPhone from scratch (without blueprints or insider knowledge) and see how well they do, and that's a fucking phone, not bleeding-edge personal mech hax technology.
And how would she even build one? From tinfoil?
So why the fuck they killed War Machine? Didnt he have a genius niece already?
Anyone find it funny that minorities have to consistently usurp characters and brands instead of coming out with their own, original works?
It's not about diversity or equality, it's about taking something away from a perceived foe.
>>84300735
Because only people of color can make people of color characters, amiright?
So suck off the new Black Pan- I mean, Black Lives Matter faggots.
>Pepper Potts will never lead a book as Rescue
Fuck this gay Earth.
And why another OC taking over an established legacy, new characters please, its not like this is going to be a long term iron man thing so why not just make her a new derivative like warmachine or rescue?
>abloo abloo another minority character ruining our capeshit
These people then turn around and without a hint of self-awareness proclaim that Kamala Khan is "a cute".
Jjust ignore the shitposters, once Riri actually starts getting published you know they will all be singing a different tune.
>>84300533
Took the words right out of my mouth.
>>84300776
>minorities
but Bendis is white
That hair makes my dick fat.
>>84300761
Because she is literally a Mary Sue. The most original aspect of her character is her race and sex. She doesn't even have a new name.
It's fucking pathetic and sad and a desperate attempt to keep your failing industry relevant
>>84300725
It's pretty much "She'll spend 12 issues as Iron Man, decide on a new name and spin off as that and Tony will be Iron Man next year."
I guarantee it.
>>84300735
I'm still mad at him for killing War Machine off. Bendis will never get my money. Everyone really should follow suit.
>>84300754
You seem perturbed.
>>84300776
>>>/pol/
>>84300805
Isn't he jewish?
>>84300805
He's working on behalf of minorities so he can feel morally superior.
How is she going to get that helmet past her hair?
Is that her superpower?
>more white old dudes writing young poc
it would be hilarious if whoever's on doom's book is a super diverse team
>>84300497
I agree. If they planned this out ahead of time (if being the key word) then they should have had, say, a teen super book where she makes suits for four or five of her friends and eventually makes a giant robot they can all merge into, power rangers style. Let her build up some friendships and some enemies and figure out and build up the character. People would be picking up the backissues right now or talking about her old fights and stories and weather or not she's a legit choice for Iron Main instead of only going on, positive or negative, just about how she's a black girl.
>>84300800
Just like Whor right?
>>84300818
>mere observations makes you /pol/ now
>>84300792
Where have you been? Comics have been coasting off shock value for years to sell issues. Nobody gives a shit about Pepper, but if IRON MAN IS A BLACK TEENAGE GIRL? That's trendy, it raises eyebrows.
Even if people only buy the first issue to realize it's fucking garbage, it's money
>>84300834
The writer has two black daughters ironically
>>84300825
Jewish people are not a real minority. They're most superrich and run most media outlets and somehow have tricked the Sojus to treating them like POC. They're the butt of some jokes but they're not oppressed anymore.
>>84300860
That's taking hipster to a whole new level.
>>84300818
Tell me one thing about this character that stands out and isn't a rip off of the original.
>>84300815
So basically she's like War Machine except with a vagina?
>>84300834
Isnt Doom a gypsy? That would work great
Is there even any white males on the Avengers anymore?
Marvel should make her a BLM leader, that's hip and trendy right?
>>84300884
You're the one making the claim. You tell me.
We all know that this will tank after the first issue and she will be relegated to support roles and will eventually be killed off to show how big the stakes are in the next big crossover event.
>>84300503
So /co/, have you accepted that /pol/ is always right yet?
Better not let Danny Rand near her
>>84300884
Well it's clearly not a rip off of the original but I also can see logic in the original argument.
But I also can not grasp the logic behind "X should be replaced with a minority!"
Don't you want your own things? I'm gay and I'll take Midnighter over "Hey Ice Man is gay now!" anyday. I guess I want my own shit but I don't want to see other things changed for my sake. That's dumb.
>>84300921
Marvel and Bendis repeating a plot. It's truly not a meme at this point.
>>84300962
I wonder how long before the BBC decides to follow suit and make the 13th Doctor a black woman. I know there is already a new black companion, but you know eventually there will be a black and/or woman Doctor.
I have just seen a thread about this on /tv/ and it was interesting to see how non-comic book readers reacted to it.
>>84300790
No. They're just tired of Bendis being Marvels black teen voice
>>84300945
I do not like this lady
>>84300962
>>84300962
My claim what that there isn't anything other than her race and sex that make her stand out.
How fucking autistic are you you fucking retard? Are you asking me to go prove myself wrong? If you think this is anything less than senseless pandering, retconning, and lazy writing (young teen already in MIT and already smarter than Tony and already made the iron man suit and will also call herself iron man) it falls on you to defend your position.
>>84300998
Your autism is flaring up.
At this rate, the only white cis male that will remain in the Marvel universe will be Red Skull.
>>84301033
That's because you're racist and sexist.
There's literally never been a good ironman run and in fact nobody really cared about the character until the movies.
>>84301053
And Daredevil.
>>84300998
That's always a pretty loaded question, not every other non-sjw opinion is exclusively /pol/.
>>84300856
Why so offended by black people bud?
Why is she a 15 year old? Fucking Bendis.
>>84301026
I imagine /tv/ reacted with baneposting.
>>84301044
I'm not the one making the claim so the burden is on you. Also, nice madpost.
>HEY EVERYONE. WE JUST ADDED ANOTHER BLACK HERO AND GOT RID OF ANOTHER DISGUSTING STRAIGHT WHITE MALE. LOOK AT HOW DIVERSE AND TOLERANT WE ARE. please buy it
>>84301093
Thread is deleted now sadly but it was interesting.
>>84300503
She's been around for, what, three issues?
>>84301072
I really like the run where Rhodes is Iron Man. It's probably just nostalgia though. It was the only run I read as a kid.
>>84300584
>She identifies herself as a male.
Now, that could be interesting.
>>84301115
Please refrain from posting your stale, tired, boring, lame, unfunny, unoriginal, racist, sexist, idiotic shtick outside of your containment board, >>>/pol/.
>>84300800
>BENDIS
>B E N D I S
>Bendis
It's shit. At best, we'll get harmless Miles Morales level babying, at worst, the moron will try to make some kind of political point that blows up in his face.
>>84301124
He's right. Comics have been around forever and they're still retarded toys meant for children.
There was a brief flash of brilliance decades ago, but that opportunity has passed.
It's time to accept that comics will never go anywhere as a medium.
>>84301157
Sorry /co/umblr
>>84301115
You sound hella triggered. I bet you've never read a single ironman comic in your life, but now you will.
>>84301186
Unless you read Franco Belgian works.
Reposting:
>>84297298
>Riri is a science genius who enrolls in MIT at the age of 15. She comes to the attention of Tony when she builds her own Iron Man suit in her dorm.
>>84297318
>In the latest issue of Iron Man, Tony is in a lab talking to himself, and he’s already aware that there’s some student at M.I.T. that’s reverse-engineered one of his old armors all by herself in her dorm room. He’s aware of her immediately.
Jesus Christ, that's as Mary Sue as you can get. I bet she's working on getting her Iron Man suit to change color as well.
>>84300503
>Bendis
It'll be shit regardless of if its Riri, Rhodey or Tony behind the wheel.
We wuz iron manz and sheeeet
>>84301221
>a science genius who enrolls in MIT at the age of 15
I already hate the character
>>84301193
> Tumblr
Nice boogyman.
Is it another color or sex change?
OH SHIT THIS TIME ITS BOTH
Were hitting new levels of progressiveness here!
>>84300533
>teen
Technically I don't think she's a teen. Isn't she like 20-21 or something? Probably old enough to drink so that Bendis can rehash demon in a bottle.
>>84300854
Just wait, looking out your window or keeping your eyes open in public will be /pol/ tier in couple of years.
>>84300503
>huge nigress hair
>fitting inside a helmet
Just from that alone the writers are fucking retarded. It takes a lot of fucking work to make the hair poof out like that and it would suffocate her if she put on a form fitting helmet.
>>84300503
First thing I thought when I saw "15 years old" was MUH DICK!
>>84301284
nigger please go
>>84301284
>I defend the honor of Africans on 4chan
Please go and stay go
>>84301284
>>84301302
>no fun allowed
>>84301186
>reading Big2
It's like watching a cape movie and saying movies aren't art
>>84301302
Where's the Times article for that back then? Also I doubt many people would have cared if Rhodes became Iron Man again.
But he got Bendis'd.
Why not just call her Iron Woman? That's legit my only gripe.
>http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/07/06/dc-rebirth-brutalises-marvel-comics-over-advance-reorders/
>retailers are rushing to up their orders for DC Comics’ Rebirth titles, mleaving Mavel titles in the dust. Only Captain America: Steve Rogers #3 gets a look in, on the back of it’s Hail Hydra revelations, with Civil War II getting Marvel 2 in the top 15 – and DC the remaining 13.
lel
>>84301263
Fifteen year old MIT genius.
I hate teen genius characters they're so fucking boring.
Also I love how all this stuff spoils the end of Civil War only three issues after it started. Way to not give a shit Marvel.
>>84301341
Big2 defines the medium. You guys can cry about how capeshit doesn't represent "true" comics but at the end of the day that's how it is.
>>84300998
They're like the alt-right counterpart to Michael Moore. They may have some good points but they ruin their arguments for going too far and being massive pricks
>>84301263
She's 15.
>>84301313
>"There's prestige attached"
>fucking Stilt-Man
what the hell is she on about?
How exactly is this different from Terry McGinnis and batman beyond? Oh yeah wait Terry isn't a black woman who makes your shriveled up pink balls shrink.
>>84301346
But then you can't spite the evil white males if you make them a new identity.
This should have been obvious when they made Thor into a twiggy feminist girl.
>>84301403
meme magic
>>84301186
>comics
>mean for children
I wish. In general, children have higher standard than manchildren
>>84300503
Can we get this trending on Twitter...
#BendisGoesFullRiri
>>84301348
I bet DC is basking on that sweet sweet revenge after being second place for so long.
Marvel doesn't care if they replace your favorite characters with niggers and lesbians.
They have too much money to hear your whining.
Either you read it or not. Then again, most of you just probably read comics by downloading them illegally. So you shouldn't really complain.
>>84301368
Right, and Top40 defines music, and Hollywood defines movies, and AAA defines video games.
If you take the most widespread, popular iterations from a medium and say "that is the representation of the entire medium ", you're only doing a disservice to yourself.
>>84301316
nigger
>>84301408
Because it's in the fucking far future where Bruce is too old and sick to be Batman?
The setting called for a successor. It made sense.
>>84301033
>lady
I'm not even sure if "she" is a woman
If Gave a shot about iron man I would be solo mad but I don't. Just imagine iron man fans rage. A random character just comes in a upslurps your favorite characters name and mantle. I mean as a captain America fan I hate Sam as cas, he Wes atleast a established hero and friend to cap for years,this,this is insulting.
>>84301287
What happened to your dick after you read "black"?
>>84301011
Youare the most sane and likeable minority I've ever seen. God bless you m8
>>84301316
>Being this butt hurt that people from other boards come and share their opinion
>>84301348
Damn somehow your filename is the one thing that triggered my autism
>>84301447
Lol mental gymnastics sure are a hassle.
>>84301434
The Walt Disney Company financially supports their intellectual property of MARVEL Entertainment which means that DC Comics will continue to remain in second place for as long as Disney continues to make more movies.
>>84301440
See >>84301049
>>84300503
>Other boards have threads about it and complain about white erasure
>/co/ is actually having a civilized conversation about it
holy moly
>>84301499
>Doesn't read comics
>Expects his opinion to be taken seriously on the subject matter
Back to the septic tank board.
Can't wait for the r34
What happened to Tony Stark? Is he crippled or dead?
>>84301527
This isn't exactly civil.
>>84301510
I'll just assume you're trolling because you aren't making an effort to back up your childish arguments.
Here's the (you) you wanted so bad.
>>84301527
Because /co/ has been subjected to it so many times before. It's a common thing in this industry.
>>84301552
No, just white and male
>>84301563
This is the most civil I've seen from this website in a while. I take what I can.
>>84301527
How? You just have the same only one fag keeps telling people to go back to /pol/, and a few wanting porn.
>>84301552
Still alive. He's totally going to die in civil war II though.
>>84301592
No wonder the fiend was replaced by Doctor Doom!
>>84301367
How could you hate Spider-Man?
>>84301563
>This isn't exactly civil.
What hugbox echo chamber shithole did you come from and how soon are you returning?
>>84301086
I'm going to pretend this isn't bait for a second.
This is a matter of Marvel cashing in on social justice as a trend and not as a movement. The character being black is irrelevant to me, although it does add another layer of disbelief to the whole 15 year old genius at MIT, which would have been enough for me to shit on the series anyway.
>>84301541
>Reads comics
>goes to /co
>gets told I don't read comics
Wew, lad
It's hilarious whenever something controversial like this happens usually you get the "I'll give it a try before passing judgment" responses, but this is fucking Bendis. It's so predictable and cringy that there's honestly no need to read it to know what it's going to be like.
>>84301408
Terry was a troubled youth who had family problems and an actual reason to want to become a crime fighter.
This is some prodigal genius who somehow reverse engineered the Iron Man suit.
There, I described the differences between them without saying anything about their gender or skin color.
>>84301567
Childish argument huh? I brought up another character trope except Terry was even younger than Riri when she first met Bruce.
>b-b-ut Bruce was old and retired
Didn't know that was a prereq for someone becoming an apprentice.
>>84301617
>Posts /pol/ """humor""""
>Gets mad when he's told to go back
>>84301527
>this thread
>civil
This discussion is about as civil as a civil war.
>>84301367
>Fifteen year old MIT genius.
Add Black and Woman to that and you have the trifecta of things that never happen in the real world ever
>>84300503
It's just Marvel's response to boost their sales after DC Rebirth, r-right guys?
>>84301677
>Terry was a troubled youth
Bet you'd really hate Terry if he was black.
>>84300503
FUCK NO
>pulling another Ms. Marvel in 2016
>replacing another white male hero with a minority
Black people are 12% of the US population, with women being roughly half of that, or 6%. Of that six percent, how many of them can read? Of of those that can read, how many of them are reading comics, and not just Zane or other trashy urban romance novellas?less that 1%? Great demographic to pander to Marvel, all those nigress readers are gonna switch from Devil Dinosaur onto Iron (Strong Black Wo) Man. Great idea. Great marketing. Right up there with Miles Morales and Whor.
>fitting that nappy afro under power armor helmet
>>84301721
>>Posts /pol/ """humor""""
>/pol/ is one person with one opinion
OK /co/mblr
So when does she join the new Scampions?
Why not make Iron Woman?
Why not finally give Warmachine a relevant fucking plot? I've been wanting something interesting from that fucking character for years and yet no, they'd rather replace an already present character because they're fucking lazy.
>>84301687
This iteration of Iron Man is designed to replace Tony in the mainline, not act as a successor in a different setting/spinoff.
Sorry, this isn't an argument you're going to win, squirt.
>>84301755
>It's just Marvel's response to boost their sales after DC Rebirth
why do they have to? They're basically gods in the comic industry.
>>84301742
Time to get out of your cocoon.
>>84301637
Kinda over done at this point.
You got this black chick, that one moon girl from the Devil Dino comic (But she is literally the exact same as this new Iron Woman, but younger), Peter Parker kinda just started the trend I guess.
Someone commission the shadman already
>>84301785
Because it's about taking away Iron Man from white males, who Marvel wants to milk outrage from.
Controversy 101
>>84301775
>Minority should be happy about white heroes.
>White people think they're being erased when a hero isn't white anymore.
Anyway it's written by a corny old white man with a questionable history about racism.
>>84301721
/pol is a board of peace
>>84301786
>is designed to replace Tony in the mainline, not act as a successor in a different setting/spinoff.
When has this ever happened you git? More proof that people here really don't read comics, it really isn't a meme is it? Tony will be back as Ironman full time by the end of the year.
>>84301771
No? Because I don't give a fuck about how much melanin someone has (unlike you apparently). I care about the character, and so far from what we've been told Riri doesn't seem like an interesting character.
>>84301408
Bruce needed replacing, he was far too old. Unless Tony dies or for some reason can't be iron man then it's fine. Except that she's a woman, not a man.
>>84301778
When Sam dies
>>84301860
>When has this ever happened you git?
Nova.
>>84301801
Oh man, I wonder how public school student Augusta Uwamanzu-Nna managed to get selected by all 8 schools. The odds of that seem sooooo high.
>>84301755
Of course
Is it the sensible response though? That's on you to decide
>>84301403
Stilt-Man was admittedly one of the few major rogues Daredevil has.
>>84301778
Revampions
Summer Campions
Tramp Stampions
I had a case a few months ago where some girl was telling me she was a huge comic book nerd.
And it seemed completely foreign to me. She talked about women power, BLM, how comics prove Obama is a great president and only racists don't like him, how society hates blacks and gays and women and muslims and how comics combats that....
I couldn't figure out how she was getting all this shit from comic books. Then I saw a Squirrel Girl book.
>15 years old
yeah that woman does NOT look 15
>>84301785
did you read the article?
>There’s a new Iron Man. Well, Iron Man for now. She’s still working on the name.
make sense if she goes around in a red and gold suit people are going to think she's ironman.
>>84301891
Shift those goal posts harder.
>>84301221
>and he’s already aware that there’s some student at M.I.T.
Not even. He was told that some chick is running around in an armor that looks like his
>that’s reverse-engineered one of his old armors all by herself in her dorm room.
She built it from scratch bystealingparts from the labs at MIT.
I think the character could be cool if they gave her an original name and gave her armor something special that differentiates it from Tony and Rhodey. Since the artist is a hack and made the helmet look like a Gundam, might as well make her a weeb and give her a bunch of mecha/anime tropes. G Gundam bodysuit, twin laser swords, magical girl transformation, laser gun drones, etc.
>Trying to give Tony a supporting cast other than Pepper and Rhodes
>People get mad about it
I don't even know what to say.
>>84302025
>>84301992
>>84301975
>This """""Writing"""""
>>84301742
>I have no problems with super powers and crazy technology
>but a black MIT genius
>that is too much
I don't know whether to laugh or to cry.
>>84300503
This coud be a little more tolerable if they weren't so blatant about it in the comics themselves, but no, they must always point it by some character ranting about how progresive it is.
>>84302078
you can literally do both
Every fucking week is the same damn thing. Surely there is a bottom to this downward spiral marvel is heading down into.
>>84300583
like a vigilante who specifically targets lesbians?
>>84301742
but that's four things
>>84300503
Well done Bendis you have fucked over another classic character. I'm done till Tony Stark is IRON MAN again
>>84300735
the whole POC thing is bullshit anyway.
it's Always a black character.
poc doesn't auto mean black. add some asians or latino's also.
and for fuck sake stop changing Original characters with black replacements
>>84301842
name five black women in Marvel you fuck. 5 minute deadline.
Storm, Misty Knight, Shuri(Black Panther), Moon Girl(& Devil Dinosaur), Shard(Bishop's sister from the future).
Marvel has black characters and they don't fucking sell on their own. It's a tried and proven market waste, because black women don't read comics. Changing Iron Man to a black woman is going to tank the guys who do read it, and black women aren't going to pick it up and start supporting it. This'll tank in 4-figure sales. Fuck you.
>>84302078
I can only suspend my disbelief so far, my man.
I wouldn't care if this shit was written well but it never is, it's always obviously a forced agenda with politics written right into the dialogue. The role of Spider-man, Iron Man or whatever has always been taken over by different people, but they always played into the story. This shit is just so forced.
I'm not going to walk into Target and see party supplies with the Miles Spider-man. That's the thing that annoys me, it's clearly just a marketing ploy to get people to buy comics like always but people treat it like it's some new big thing.
Marketing isn't progressive.
>>84302139
>asians
Asians are white.
>latinos
Also white.
>>84301891
>low chances of happening = impossibility
>>84301677
>You reverse engineered my suit, now you must become Ironman.
It'd be interesting if she was kind of forced to take the role instead of willingly doing it.
>>84300503
>Bendis is still writing
I should've known better than to get excited. Everything is awful.
>>84302127
>anonymous can't count
>>84302166
in modern america, everyone is white.
>>84302166
What about natives?
>>84301302
Having Rhodey take the mantle of Iron Man makes sense though. he's Tony's oldest friend the one person he could trust with taking over for him.
Not this pandering shit fuck this Marvel
Looks like this needs updated.
>Looking at twitter and facebook for shits and giggles
>SJWs saying they'll NOW pick up Iron man because he's not white now
And these people have the balls to bitch about anyone who doesnt like this
>>84301527
If you consider this civilized then my god the other boards must have turned into even worse shit. At least /tg/ is still fine.
More or less.
>>84300503
bendis with his nigger fetish again
>>84302168
Could she also fall in love with Stark? That's all we're missing to reach peak Sue.
>>84302166
>Asians are white
anime is warpping your brain
Why don't they just drop the charade and just make political porn?
Put out a dozen pages of Trump or whatever boogeyman they don't like getting beaten up, tortured and murdered every week, preferably by gay black trans otherkin. No context, no story, just gratuitous violence against people you disagree with. The result is the same.
I'm okay with this because she's really hot.
>>84301778
Oh God, Bendis is going to force Waid to make her the leader, isn't he?
>>84302249
Bring it back to the good ol' days, I agree.
>>84302149
Name 20 white women in marvel you retarded fuck.
Now name 20 black women without using google
>>84302228
>Looking at /pol/ and /tv/ for shits and giggles
>polturds saying they'll NOW not pick up Iron man because he's not white now
And these people have the balls to bitch about anyone who doesnt like this.
>>84302232
So is black female cap just so much more powerful or is Spider-Gwen just weaker?
>>84301839
Isn't Doom going to be the other Iron Man? There's two Iron Man books. Invincible and International.
Presumably Doom will be the International Iron Man while Riri is Invincible.
>>84302215
Too obscure to talk about.
>>84302237
From a liberal's perspective, asians are effectively white because of their success in integrating in white society and making it on their own without government assistance.
It may sound like I'm being hyperbolic, but this is how they actually think. Asians are too successful to be considered a viable minority to champion.
>>84302139
>>84302166
Do Chulk, ghost rider, lanterns, ms marvel etc not count anymore or is this change different than the other ones?
>>84302294
Nigger I'm a chink and I can't get a date off a fucking calendar
What is this shit
>>84302215
Black slacktavists use other non white groups by proxy to lob criticisms at white people but if you call them out on that fact that they only look out for themselves the response will be that they do all the work/X minority groups are anti black.
Ex: the whole Oscarssowhite controversy""
>>84301801
Let me guess, it's a public school in a white collar upper middle class city, and her parents actually raised/educated her to work hard as opposed to everyone else who ends up getting divorced and neglecting their kids.
She's a great example of the average person.
>>84302291
Tumblr please go
>>84302322
Irrelevant, it pales in comparison to whatever the perceived oppression that blacks claim to face.
If I was a liberal, I'd be telling you to stop crying and call you a racist right now. You would be just as bad as a white person in that regard.
>>84302052
>replace Pepper with Mary Jane
>replace Rhodey with potentially sue-ish OC
>replace Tony with Dr. Doom
At a certain point, it's barely even Iron Man. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing but Bendis is hardly the person to make it a good thing.
>>84302294
>champion
>>84302379
I quoted your own post back to you word for word replacing your choice buzzwords and you get mad.
Hilarious stuff.
>>84300503
SHEEEEEIIIIIIIIIT THAT'S CRACKIN' YOOO
MAH LIL' NIGGRESS
>>84302249
Reminds me of how, in Dreamfall Chapters, you set fire to Nigel Farage.
>>84302279
>looking back
>That manchild at the bottom becomes The Winter Soldier
>>84302409
I'm not even that guy
So
I've been deciding to take an extended break from Marvel after the Steve-Hydra fiasco. And this is just sort of reaffirming my stance on that.
I want to get into Rebirth but the book I was sort of looking forward to (Justice League) wasn't all that good IMO.
Can anyone recommend some good DC comics out right now so I can take my mind off this new can of worms?
>>84302373
>She's a great example of the average person.
Who claimed that?
>>84302451
But you were mad enough to reply.
>>84302484
I'm not mad
>>84300503
how does her afro fit inside her helmet?
>>84302481
The publication that decided to run the fucking story.
>>84300533
fpbp
>>84302530
>Claim black girl in MIT is not something that happens in the real world ever
>Gets proven wrong instantly
>W-w-elll you seeee
As a straight white male with both male and white privilege I welcome this move. Im tired of reading about straight white male superheroes. Its great to see inclusion and diversity in comics. This will easily be better than the previous Iron man runs.
>>84301975
>>84301992
>>84302025
Does she have super-strength? Because I doubt any normal woman, no matter how strong, could overpower the fucking Lizard like that.Yes, I know it's Harry/Green Goblin of that universe.
>>84300776
That's because everyone realizes nobody would EVER give a fuck about an original Didn't Do Nothin character that wasn't piggy backed onto an already successful white character.
It's also the reason why the tumblr gender/race swap phenomenon is deeply rooted in racism and sexism of the people who do it.
>>84301247
Said after the dude responded to a /pol/ boogeyman post. Not a hint of irony there.
>>84301801
you realize that every single one of those schools admits based on affirmative action right?
>>84302579
And you didn't even need a lobotomy!
>>84302616
>polturd complaining about racism and sexism
This world is full of many ironies Ed boy
>>84300503
When even comicbook ressources don't like this you know it's going too far
>>84300776
The problem with your assertion is that Black people never do this. It's always white guilt's fault. When black people are allowed to create something new they do. I can guarantee that you can find ZERO times in comic history where a black person race swapped a character they were writing.
>>84302616
What counts as an original non-piggy backing character from Marvel? Luke Cage? Black Panther?
>>84302692
So she got into all 8 cause solely cause she was black huh? Damn, guess I wasn't black enough for Princeton.
>>84302706
Racism against whites is still racism.
Sexism against men is still sexism.
>>84300503
I've always been siding with Marvel despite all this shit but if this is a pemanent change and this monkey is the new Ironman then I'm dropping marvel alltogether and sticking with DC comics from now on.
They fucking finally touched a classic hero with stupid SJW BLM garbage. I'm mad but TRYING to stay optimistic
I don't really care about the black or women parts, though I am a bit concerned that Marvel's really, really trying to push the "teenage superheroes" angle.
Other than that, I mean it's not like they've done anything decent with Tony Stark in years.
>>84302742
obviously
>>84302710
This. You wanna blame someone blame the white writers doing this, the white editors and executives allowing it, and the white teenage girls on tumblr and their equally white numale defenders screeching for it.
>>84302760
>I'm dropping marvel alltogether and sticking with DC comics from now on.
Until DC does something stupid and you switch right back.
>>84302760
>permanent
Anon do you even read Marvel comics?
>>84302787
Glad to see you already took the L.
>>84302805
>white
Yes, I'm sure they're (((white))).
>>84302760
>They fucking finally touched a classic hero with stupid SJW BLM garbage. I'm mad but TRYING to stay optimistic
They have done this to almost every hero now
>hulk is a gay asian
>cap is a black man who dindu nuffin
>ironman is a negress
>thor is a strong indepedent wymens who dont need no man
>marvel is a muslim woman
And more!
>>84302787
Come on anon Nigerian Americans do pretty well in education, not just getting accepted into schools, but actually getting the degree.
>>84302760
Getting huge flashbacks from when Miles was announced as the new 616 spiderman, and Wally turned black.
Always these threats from soft egoed little pussies like you ditching your allegiance to a company, when you most likely just torrent comics and probably didn't care for Ironman till 2008, probably don't even know Rhodes was Ironman for a while too.
>>84302742
It DEFINITELY helped.
>>84302297
anything?
>>84300503
Remember when comics used to be about fun, action, and telling interesting stories about compelling characters?
>>84302288
>A black person declaring men to be "property"
Really?
>>84302209
Except the niggers
Bendis can afford some top tier drugs
>>84302786
Oy vey, Goyim! It's 2016, white is out of fashion. Get with the times already! You're not a racist, are you?
>>84300503
Oh for fuck's sake. I was just wondering what was going on with Iron Man, I stopped reading years ago because the writing had been so terrible for years and I finally couldn't stand it anymore. Marvel really went to shit fast. And they're still trying to win the hearts and wallets of people with "diversity"? They really think changing all their beloved characters are going to make people buy more comic books? I can't believe how out of touch they are.
>>84302972
When did Stan Lee say that?
>>84302906
You wouldn't know cause you don't read any.
>>84300576
>who cares
The people this shit was obviously pandered to who will also not even buy this at all. At the most they will just use the free PR stuff and maybe download the pdf files for a cursory glance.
>>84302906
From capeshit? Nope.
>>84300503
>"You're the new Iron Man."
>"I'm the new Iron Man?"
>"..."
>"I can't."
>"Why not?"
>"I'm a girl".
>"Oh. You're the new Iron Woman."
>"I'm the new Iron Woman."
Put it over the same panel 6 times. Hire me please, Marvel
>>84303011
>that kingpin face
>>84302972
Stan Lee isn't in-charge of Marvel anymore.
>>84303011
Did 9/11 happen in marvel? Really?
With beings like Thanos and Galactic running around, two planes made Doom cry? Really?
>>84300583
>>84302109
right let's get this started then
>a black-asian transwoman punisher that only targets straight white american men with upper-half white collar jobs
>>84303060
Stan Lee was NEVER "in charge," he just fucking pitched and successfully wrote a broad range of series that sold & stuck well enough for other writers to later pick up and continue. He's the Stephen King of comic books.
>>84303060
I know, but he's the most memeable Marvel personality.
was stan lee a trap all this time?
>>84302821
you never know man.
Marvel is going all DIVERSITY on us and some changes might stay. Just because things in the past had been returned to normal doesn't mean they would do the same now.
Fuck marvel.
>>84302865
>Ghost Rider's a mexican
>Spidey got killed in favor of a black-hispanic mix child
>Ice-Man's a fag now
>>84300503
Don't people feel patronized by all these super forced, racially diverse legacy characters?
>Hey, you're a nigger. We got niggers! You gotta love them because they look just like you!
>We know you, we've got the marketing data to prove it. Give us money because we put a black person on the cover
>>84303063
It's hard to choke down in the context of the original Civil War accident too.
>Kingpin wondering why the fuck he's on street level and has 3 supervillains surrounding him at the same time
>not safely in a helicopter or office away from capeshit that makes him look bad
>>84302760
>but if this is a pemanent change
When is anything ever permanent in comics you mongoloid? You don't read comics, just here to rage post about something you don't even care about.
>>84300503
>her name is actuallly Riri
i can see the sjw crowd laughing themselves shitless from this
>>84302865
Kamala doesn't really count as retouching a classic hero, she just took the name because she's a nerd. She has different powers and different everything
>>84303149
Don't you feel patronized getting offended by such meaningless things in life?
>>84303011
>I PICK ONE QUESTIONABLE THING FROM A GOOD RUN
>LE CAPESHIT IS SHIT XDDDD
Kill yourself.
>>84300503
How come this one worked so well but all these new ones that try to do the same thing suck dick?
>>84303149
And we can't make decent arguments against it or we'll just be generalized with the loudmouth bigots.
>>84303210
I'm just annoyed by weird marketing decisions
>>84303225
There is legacy character and replacement character.
Replacement rarely works well.
Like, remember when WWF tried to do Razor Ramon and Diesel without Kevin Nash and Scott Hall?
>>84303149
I do but my opinion doesn't count because it runs counter to what white women on the internet want me to feel.
>>84303065
Actually, if the anger that came from the Brexit referendum is anything to go by they hate poor whites more than anything.
>>84303225
Because that team knew what they were doing.
>>84303131
At least with Ghost Rider he's a B-lister and is barely read. Zarathos can jump bodies, this was already in place, there was an 1800's cowboy Ghost Rider. I can accept this.
Ultimate Parker "dying" for Miles Morales to take over was shit. Especially when he came back anyways a few issues before the universal reboot.
Ice-Man was time travel and two Ice-Men occupied the same space, young gay one and older straight one. This was absurd but didn't delete the old established one so it wasn't so bad. Especially being accompanied by Young Cyclops and Young Jean too.
So does her suit have a reinforced neck for rolling?
>>84303295
>At least with Ghost Rider he's a B-lister and is barely read. Zarathos can jump bodies, this was already in place, there was an 1800's cowboy Ghost Rider. I can accept this.
The spirit in Reyes Ghost Rider wasn't Zarathos, just FYI. But yeah, Ghost Rider isn't the same since there's always been multiple ones; it's baked right into the series DNA to have a new one every once in a while.
This right here summarizes everything that is wrong with Marvel.
>>84303308
she had to build her sass servos from scratch
>>84303225
>completely different setting
>original character unable to uphold the mantle due to age and health
But keep rolling out that example as if it's some sort of epic btfo, faggots
>>84303225
Because Bruce is still there mentoring Terry, and all the bad guys get punished in incredibly brutal, edgy ways. Also it turns out the fat black lady who's high up in Gotham government got some of Bruce Wayne's DNA and implanted it in Terry's mom, so he's literally a clone of Bruce Wayne. THERE MUST ALWAYS BE A BATMAN WITH A DEAD PARENT
>>84301367
It's another teenager with little life experience who I'm supposed to give a shit about
>But muh hard backstory!
Still does not compensate for shit
When are people actually going to take notes from Good Will Hunting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEIQSbul9Os
>>84303353
I didn't know that, but again I don't follow Ghost Rider, I just like the premise and when he pops into other series, like Penance Staring Galactus in one of the cartoons.
>>84300533
Frankly, the teen part is the thing that makes this the most stupid thing yet
>>84301013
Next incarnation for sure. It's been on the cards for a looong time.
>>84303225
>>84303268
>What this nigga said
>These new ones are all Mary Sue to the maximum degree (being super young and super smart, fem IronMan getting enrolled into MIT, etc.)
>Terry was an actual character, with reasons for us to like him
>This new "Riri's" only original quality and her only actual selling point is "muh representation"
>Terry wasn't a sue by any means, he wasn't super retarded strong and actually had a reason to become Bat Man
>Riri's still only black and young and smart. Just like Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur. This has literally been done before. Not even that long ago
>>84303388
>the fat black lady who's high up in Gotham government
>/co/ reads comics they said
>>84300503
Depends solely on her relationship with Tony. If he treats her like an apprentice and proxy for things he can't do like lysandre and alan than I'm cool. If he praises her as the second coming of christ and puts her on a pedestal than fuck right off
>>84302888
>lowest scores
>highest admittance rates
lol, at least cover that shit up or something. This would have been a scandal in any other country.
Jesus, its fucking sad just how much of marvel is dictated by SJW shit.
I'm black and I still hate this. Don't replace pre-established characters, and if you do, have it someone that makes sense. The only person who should take up the role as Iron Man should be War Machine. But don't replace characters please!
>>84300591
If they can force Thor, a mythological god with thousands of years of history, can be forced to give up his FIRST NAME to a female, then what makes you think a woman can't force a guy to give up his code name?
Doesn't Tony beat people up for making their own suits?
>>84300945
The spitting image of a Gary Frank illustration
>>84302906
>Remember when comics used to be about fun, action, and telling interesting stories about compelling characters?
It's still about that. You're just looking in the wrong place.
>>84303542
how do you feel that they did this while they killed off Rhodey
>>84303417
I don't watch movies where Mrs. Doubtfire isn't funny
>>84303513
>gets employed by Tony
>sues him for discrimination and sexual harassment when he fires her for being a lazy incompetent bitch
>gets all of his Ironman shit
>is now Ironman
>written by bendis
>miles had a bigger reaction to a girl calling him black spider-man than he did to his mother dying in front of him
oh this is going to be so hamfisted and terrible
>>84303509
Complaining about DC names in a DC cartoon where the end of one(Young Justice) ties up the loose ends of another(Batman Beyond) in a Marvel Comics thread
the fuck outta here, you bitch-ass nigga
>>84303534
Just as sad as your obsession with the latest buzzword 4chan is pedaling this year.
>>84303626
That'd be funny for a short nightmare scenario, but not as an actual series.
>>84300503
If this was Iron Man 2099 and written by Waid everyone would be hyped for this shit.
>>84303695
>I don't know who Amanda Waller is but trust me I read comics, been a fan since the mid-90s and I am absolutely APPALLED by Marvel's actions, you gotta believe me here pal.
>>84302760
I better option would be to just forgo brand loyalty altogether since both DC and Marvel are both pretty shit.
>>84303587
Yeah, it's not like it's all gone to shit
It's just that Marvel has set aside some of their most recognizable characters to be used as diversity bait while also using some of their minor characters (SG/Hellcat) for the same purpose because they can hire cheap writers and artists off of tumblr to make them
>>84303215
But Capeshit is shit and this is but one of a myriad of examples why.
>>84303388
IT WAS ME, TERRY! IT WAS ME ALL ALONG!
>>84303509
literally crying.
heartbreak never heals
>>84303744
I DON'T know who Amanda Waller is, it was a fucking CARTOON. I never claimed to read Batman in an Iron Woman thread
>>84303225
Well for starters, Terry exists in the future where Bruce is an old man, so you still have the original in the present.
>>84302290
Name 5,986 white males in marvel you retarded fuck.
>>84300503
So, they've gone for the hattrick.
Now we have Whor, Snaptain America and now Iron Maiden.
>>84303699
Why do they fixate on skin? It's the facial features and behavior most people hate about other races.
>>84303806
>CAPESHITCAPESHITCAPESHIT
Just fuck off and kill yourself already.
>>84303717
it probably would've been good too even given current-Waid
>>84303816
Cch Pounder is the best black female voice out there.
I couldn't believe she would do that was fucking impossible. I want me more black female smart villains like her.
>>84303880
>Name 5,986 white males in marvel
>not 2,099
you had one job
>>84300503
Marvel are so irrelevant at comic world, so they have to appeal SJWs and landwhales
>>84301013
The Doctor has had minority companions before, so that's really nothing new.
Also, considering he regenerates, he is probably one of the only characters who replacing with a black guy would actually make total sense after a while.
Oh NOW you care about black women but when it comes time to do Captain Marvel you throw Monica under the bus. Fuck that.
>>84303388
>he's literally a clone of Bruce Wayne
This was the thing that ruined two different DC series at the same time for me. Fuck that twist.
>>84303703
>the series is about Tony battling with poverty, alcohol and depression as he tries to regain his possessions rather than the black Iron woMan
>>84303929
>complaining about "capeshit" in the dedicated section for it on a cantonese animated etch-a-sketch bulletin board
here's your (You), it seems that you're in dire need of it.
>>84303990
I'm still upset
Daily reminder. Please view this image. This guy is a Marvel editor. This was from a few years ago.
>Her and Tony will probably end up being active at the same time
>Just like Peter/Miles
>Just like Thor/Whor will be
>Just Like Sam/Steve
>>84303990
>Monica fans
>>84303856
jesus christ
I wouldn't care as much if it wasnt for all the people who are for this were acting like children on social media
>Hurrr white tears
>Hurrrr white male nerd rage
>Hurrrrrr now who will white males identify with
I'm not even white and these type of responses are cringey as fuck. Like I want to see this fail just to deny these fuckers the satisfaction.
>>84302290
Uh. 1) Ororo; 2) Misty Knight; 3) Shuri; 4) Princess Zarda; 5) Queen Divine Justice; 6) Nekra (she's an albino, but she's African-American); 7) mrs.Rhodes (Jim's mother, she's a recurrent character);8) Captain Marvel (Monica, but she'll always be Captain Marvel to me); 9) Marcy Pearson, one of the many female Iron Man supporting characters who got shafted horribly; 10)... damn this is hard.
>>84303993
>look at me acting like a condescending elitist cunt, my tastes are so refined XD
Didn't I tell you to fuck off already? I swear, this board would be a much better place if idiots like you got permabanned.
>>84304023
>WAHH WHY DO PEOPLE DON'T LIKE ME USING A SHITTY BUZZWORD
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
OH
MY
GOD
Who defending Marvel here?
When are they going to change /co/ to /co/mblr ? :3
more diversity!!
>>84304103
I don't understand why you're so ass-ravaged over someone calling your children's coloring books shit.
>>84304143
>:3
Kill yourself
>>84304143
same time we change /pol/ to /pol/blr. Literally the other side of the coin.
>>84303990
>Monica gets thrown onto Carol's minority squad to be her black bff
>Now she's fucking Blue Marvel
>The 500 year old-ass nigga with adult children
suffering
>>84302458
I'm pretty triggered by the fact that they keep shuffling the colors on these graphs, making any comparison images confusing.
>>84301313
>forging your own identity
>"Lady Stiltman"
That's not what he meant, she knows it
>>84304175
Why don't you eat asbestos and get cancer? The board would be a much better place without shitposting idiots like you.
>>84301247
Well do *you* have a Tumblr?
>>84304289
Good lord, I can feel the anger emanating from the post.
>>84303225
Because Based Bruce Timm
>>84302888
And this is just one of the problems with affirmative action. It just questions the legitimacy of students like in the article and takes up space for someone more qualified. Given how well her specific ethnic group does in America, she has a really good chance, but with aa it'll always be called into question, just like any high achieving student from the lower end of the scores.except after she graduates, maybe
>>84304332
So, are you going to fuck off already, or are you going to continue being an annoying cunt like you indiefag cancer always do?
>>84301687
It's a prereq for someone becoming a *replacement*.
Go watch MIB.
>>84303011
>butchers innocent Asgardians for his experiments
>sells his true love's soul to demons and wears her skin
>dedicated his entire existence towards ruining the life of one of the greatest heroes on the planet for something the guy didn't do
>constantly pulls cloak and dagger shady shit like betrayals and backstabbing
>destroyed entire alien civilizations
>openly hates America
>BUT A FUCKING TERRORIST ATTACK MAKES HIM CRY
Who ever wrote this needs to die. Btw, this comes from a MASSIVE Doomfag.
>>84300503
I bet she also has electric powers like Miles (and all black superheros)
>>84304435
Except the fact that there no such things as "permanent replacements" in comics, you know? those things that you don't even read
>>84304507
Are you implying that blacks can't comprehend electricity and it's magic to them?You're not wrong.
The year is 2020
All superheroes have been replaced by black womenHow long until this becomes an overarching conspiracy plotlinethat The Question must unravel
>>84304507
Luke don't
But don't quote me. Maybe Marvel will read this and give Luke electrified skin for Jessica's pleasure or some shit
>>84304470
I'll play the devil's advocate here.
It's stupid in retrospect, but it was effective at the time mostly because America was pretty damn shocked so it didn't come off as silly. It's one of those things that only work during the period they're about.
>>84304548
never, because theyd never have a white male questioning why theres so many niggers
>>84304425
>calls indiefags cancer
>despite capeshit being overall worse in quality
No anon, you are the cancer. At least with creator owned titles you can pick and choose which ones you like without having to worry about them being dragged down by a bloated shared universe or higher ups wresting creative control to do shit like in the OP. I guess you'll just continue to cling to your capeshit until both DC and Marvel finally fade to obscurity after years of a dwindling market.
>>84301346
How about Iron Maiden? That makes sense to me.
>>84302922
The majority of them have European ancestry through. 58 percent of blacks have at least 12.5% European ancestry (equivalent of one great-grandparent)
Blame the slave owners
This is the main reason I stopped reading the Big Two. I don't give the slightest fuck about pandering characters to a specific minority, making characters blatantly identifiable to only a specific few, or making them out to be leaders of their own description.
What I do care about is them taking already established characters and reworking them in an attempt to pander to an audience that complains more than they purchase. I know how autistic it sounds, but changing the idea of a character that has existed for longer than people they are pandering to is out-fucking-rageous.
I don't mind a black female character that goes around preaching how she can do anything men can do, but come up with that character on your own. Don't drag the idea of a character through the mud, grime, and dirt just so you can wash it off and call it brand new; that is borderline schizophrenic behavior and a complete disrespect to not only the true fans but themselves.
>>84304584
OR, they could have just not included him. Or any major villain. How's that?
so there were no black writers available to write this?
>>84304611
>he's too stupid to understand how he's cancer and still tries to flaunt his non-existent superiority by shitposting
I swear, you faggots are as bad as trash that comes here from /tv/. Seriously get cancer. Maybe your shitty attempts at serious literature that would be laughed at by any serious lit critic could help you with that by giving you the tumor on whatever little there is of your brain.
>>84303701
>buzzword
It's used a lot but is an actual thing. Just like "fun".
also
>pedaling
>>84304066
>Carol's face is red because she's an alcoholic
It's little details like this that make me a #CarolCorpse
>>84302458
Bumping my request for suggested Rebirth titles
>>84300503
Why are all recently introduced black kids geniuses or prodigies? Her, Miles, Moon girl, Duke, etc
>>84304773
Still all this ass-pain in multiple posts. It's funny you should mention /tv/, considering they're part of the capeshit cancer on /co/. If you think indie comics are shitty attempts at serious literature, what would that make capeshit? The fecal stains on the wall made by a dribbling autist?
>>84301313
>IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR
>>84304894
>The fecal stains on the wall made by a dribbling autist?
That's your shitposts, obviously.
>discards entire genre out of misplaced sense of elitism
>gets defensive when his shitty comics get insulted
You should seriously shut up already. There's a reason your moronic kind is not liked.
can't wait for all marvel lead books to have a strong 'black' leader
i bet parker is going to give his company to either robbie or some other black teen genius (i.e. miles)
so he can go back to being struggling-for-money-trying-to-get-back-with-mj parker.
thor becoming black god of thunder (some homeless black man with a heart of gold and selflessness being given the power of the thundergod)
storm/capt are already in lead roles
medusa and danvers giving up their leadership roles to 'minorities'
my friends (who are black) think it's fucking horrible this is happening (with established characters). they related to parker/rogers/scott/thor because of the stories. their struggles. not their skin color.
>>84304545
Pretty much. Most people who'd call themselves an SJW are more into instant gratification where a popular character becomes black as opposed to the tactic Marvel took in the 60's, where they introduced black supporting characters and made sure they were developed and successful enough to be spun off into their own book eventually.
>>84305028
You're the one being defensive and incredibly butthurt here. The only reason I'm discarding an entire genre because it's become a stranglehold on the industry and quite literally killing it because of moronic decisions. They're the comic equivalent of the military FPS, but even they don't dominate the video game industry as much as capeshit does.
>>84304140
I know what he's thinking of saying...
>>84300945
> uhh, X much?
If I could murder a phrase it would be this one. It is very obnoxious and irritating.
I'm okay with it
Smart move to be honest. Sex sells
And despite 4chan saying they don't they will fap to the new teen black iron lady
All we need now is an Asian girl to take over one of the other hero. even better make her trans
>>84305141
>You're the one being defensive
Nah, I'm just telling you the truth.
>LE BUTTHURT MEME
Here's a suggestion, don't act like a cunt and people won't yell at you. Although that would be harder for you to pretend you're some ebin master troll and jerk off your self-esteem.
>muh industry stranglehold means the entire genre is bad and I'm so cool for hating it and acting like a complete twat
You're unbelievably pathetic. We need an indiefag purge. Ever asked yourself why no one wants to read your navel-gazing autobiographies and other "artsy" shit?
You. Faggots like you are the fucking reason.
Lol @ casuals getting mad at this.
>>84300503
They're making the same mistake. Instead of making an actually cool super heroine and having her be popular they just have her steal popularity from an actually cool male super hero. This isnt sending the message that girls can be just as good as guys, it's sending the message that girls can never succeed on their own and need a guy to do it for them
Wait so is she Iron Woman or Lady Iron Man now?
The outrage I feel is beyond words.
EVERY FUCKING TIME, THEY TREAT TONYS SUIT LIKE ITS SOME MAGIC SHIT AND THEY FORGET THE MAN WHO MADE THE GODDAMNED SUIT IN E FIRST PLACE
FUCK MARVEL, FUCK DC
HAIL SNYDER, HE GAVE US ONE DECENT MOVIE.
>m-m-uh minority, plz buy my book
FUCK OFF MARVEL I AINT LISTENING TO YOUR BITCH SHIT ANYMORE! IM GONNA RELAX AND READ MY OLD IM RUNS, FUCK YOUR SHIT! I SUFFERED THROUGH SUPERIOR, SOMEHOW READ GHE NEW SPIC IRON MAN AND NOW THIS SHIT!
REEEEE
IF I MEET THE WRITER IMMA CRACK HIS SPINE AND PUT AN IRON ROD IN, AND CALL HIM IRON MAN
>>84305438
Imagine being this upset at something so inconsequential. I can't.
Is Marvel and DC going to put out a page every week that triggers a /pol/ invasion? All these threads are getting really fucking annoying.
This
>>84302805
But we especially this
>>84302838
It's bad writing, and funny enough it's never black people.
Someone riots outside your place and fucks it up probably blacks. Some dick head trying to "culturally enrich" western media it's either a upper middle class white person or a (()) .
Any normal black person with a modicum of self respect does not give a fuck. It's only the racist dindoos who have an inferiority complex who ask for that with repetitions.
>>84305438
she made her own suit. it also fell apart shortly into her first superhero outing.
you vitriolic poseur.
>>84305493
/pol/ isn't invading. You're invading.
>>84305493
>muh /pol/
If you feel upset about this, take a deep breath.
Realise what it means for our culture as a whole that the only way people think a new black/woman/gay/etc character can succeed is if it hijacks the popularity of an already established -usually straight white male- character but never as a standalone, unique character of their own.
And breath out.
Im so goddamn sick of this branding/gimmick bullshit right now.
>Hey this persona can be Spider Man! You can be Iron Man! And hey you can be Thor for all I care!
Seriously, fuck off Marvel. This isnt legacy character building, this is shit OC writing theyve been obsessed with. Whats the fucking point of these characters if half a dozen people are going to take up the mantle? NEWSFLASH! When everyone is "special", no one is truly is anymore. Its like the participation trophy of comics now. Its also a poor excuse for writing too, because why think of a good story when you can just retell a fucking origin? And hey you cant say jack about this particular case because then you're racist! Stop buying Marvel books, its the only way they'll learn.
>>84305493
Maybe you should go back to tumblr nigger :^)
>>84305668
This is whats also infuriating. I understand writing a new character isnt easy, and even harder to sell to the public, but for fuck sake thats when you know you're on to something. Piggybacking on other characters like this is just LAZY. But hey we cant criticize shit writing because its progressive! I would think people wanting more diversity in comics would be upset about how shameless this all is.
>>84305493
>/pol/ invasion
>anyone who disagrees with reimagined/alternate/replacement version of characters as black/women/gay/something earning diversity points is pol
Sod off.
>>84305788
You understand they're piggybacking on established characters because without the established character's legacy, no one would give a shit for a diversity-focused characters, ya?
>>84305801
But you are. That's why you're stupid, and childish.
>>84305369
>I disagree with your opinion so I'm going to be get really mad over it
>I'm butthurt, but I'll try brushing it off as a meme!
There's also a lot more to independent comics than " navel-gazing autobiographies and other "artsy" shit". It's not even a genre, it's just the way the comics are published. Hellboy is an indie comic series and it manages to have a better universe and spinoff than the vast majority of what the big two churn out nowadays. You know why capeshit is so shit nowadays? Because the only people writing them now are those that have nostalgia for the actually talented writers. The few good writers they do have at DC and Marvel are ones whose independent and original works are far better in quality. Call it elitism if you want, but DC and Marvel's universes are nothing but bloated adherents to the status quo and can only survive in modern times because of cheap events and changes like Iron Man being a black woman which only last for a short period of time before the next batch comes around. Capeshit is sustained by nothing but cheap gimmicks at this point.
>>84300503
either they have noble intentions and are dumb about it or they're doing this for quick cash.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>84305837
I am not. The fact that you think people from fringe containment boards are the only ones that disagree with you shows you're only used to echochambers.
>I don't buy comics
>tfw can't buy fewer comics
>>84302458
holy shit these graphs are absolute shit
I should have known better than to expect /co/ to read comics, much less future solicits.
You people are also falling for this shit?
>>84302458
>they don't number the bars on the chart
>they don't color code the legend
what the fuck, man.
>>84305880
>act like a complete cunt
>get told that you're a cunt
>IT'S JUST AN OPINION, BRO. WHY SO BUTTHURT XD
>There's also a lot more to independent comics than " navel-gazing autobiographies and other "artsy" shit". It's not even a genre
Good job attacking my wording and missing the entire fucking point of my post.
>Hellboy is an indie comic series
Hellboy is "capeshit", whether you like it or not.
>Because the only people writing them now are those that have nostalgia for the actually talented writers
So now you're backpedaling and saying that there were talented writers with good works in "capeshit". I admit modern Big Two is shit, but we're not just talking about that.
>>84306128
>shit /int/ memes
I bet you're a Pole. KURWA PJERDOLE
>>84305831
That's what back up stories used to be for. To build an audience for a new character, off the back of Batman.
>>84305892
>they're doing this for quick cash
Pretty much.
The big two alienated their main audience of kids a long time ago. Now they're gone forever. What they have left are middle aged people and nerdy SJW twats who fap to this sort of thing. Of course it's being done for press and short term profits. The readers act like kittens under the influence of catnip when this crap happens and come around, tails twitching and eyed wide with excitement as they start batting at the new shiny object with their paws. But after a while, they get bored, and Bendis (de-facto editor of Marvel), Alonso, Brevoort, and the rest of the merry band of morons have to come up with something new to get their audience back again. Another event. Another death. Another "shocker." And the "fans" always oblige them.
As a previous anon stated, comics are sustained by cheap gimmicks. This is yet another one. And you will all reward them for it.
>>84301367
>Fifteen
>>84300503
>15
>>84301398
>She's 15
Writers can honestly fuck off with this teen-genius character concept. They suck. Ever since Spider-Man.
>>84306242
Spider-Man is the only time it worked.
>>84306137
>Hellboy is capeshit
>Despite there being no capes or superheroes
>And under an independent publisher (Dark Horse)
Also, it seems you're the one whose unreasonable angry and acting like a cunt just because I called your shit comics shit. I'm not the one who went on multiply tirades about it and will continue to mock you for doing so. And yes, I'm willing to admit that capeshit rarely has had talented writers or artists, but the vast majority move on to bigger and better things and are no longer shackled by the chains of capeshit.
>>84306241
>Implying
I've never bought a DC or Marvel comic in my fucking life, I'm just here for the shitposting.
>>84305409
She's following in the proud trailblazing steps of Stilt-Man.
>>84306275
Cho.
Then, like a million non comics. Like Dexter, Fineous/Ferb, sisters in that one show.., one kid in My life as a teenage robot, Jimmy Neutron, etc, etc..
>>84300761
"SMART" comic book characters are just one of those things I don't even bother getting annoyed about anymore. It's comic books, writers don't have a scale of how intelligent humans should be. They're only used so writers can figure out a way to solve the story's problem by introducing some Deus Ex Machina device.
>>84306241
When this first started i was willing to believe they're hearts were in the right place but its just getting harder and harder to think like that as time goes on.
Captain Native America when?
>My Super Special Snowflake character is so intelligent, she's smarter than fucking Tony Stark. While also being young, not even an adult. She's also physically attractive. And Female. And Black.
God, just stop. Why do I feel like writers are inserting themselves or people they know into their works? This character is going to be shilled. And shilled hard. This is Ghostbusters 2016. It's going to be shit before I even read it.
>>84306589
Does he get his powers from drinking mouth wash?
>>84306652
He can metabolize alcohol very quickly
>>84306333
>no superheroes
>I-IT'S INDEPENDENT SO IT'S NOT A CAPE COMIC
Your denial is so cute.
>and acting like a cunt
This is the finest definition of "pot kettle black". You don't have to mock anyone, trust me. You're nothing but a big joke yourself.
>rarely
So, you're still pretending the genre is complete shit because of your shitty elitism. Fuck off then.
>still riding LE CAPESHIT meme
Seriously, just fuck off with your idiotic buzzword. I hope Loudness Lad or whoever invented it gets cancer along with you.
>It's not pandering when 95% of heroes are white guys
>It however is pandering when a new black hero is introduced
What exactly is wrong with retiring old characters/heroes and making new characters/heroes again?
Why does Marvel love having another person simply take on the mantle of another hero instead of making brand new ones?
>>84306817
Making a new character requires effort.
>>84304600
Could work for Montoya Question. She questions why all the Negresses are sassing her up and replacing all the white guys and the girls. Without the white men to piss off the tumblrtots the wave of barely legal lezbait is drying up. She can't get a lesbian date because they're too busy going after the last ladyboys because basic lesbianism was so yesterday and every LGBTQ+ can't be seen without their MtF armcandy. The Negresses aren't putting out for scissor sessions and now she's frustrated as hell and has to ask the question of where the white men at?
>>84306725
>Killing the old heros off when you can just brand new heros instead and market them
All this pandering really does is say "Black people don't sell" and thats actually offensive
>>84306913
no it's just that it dosn't sell if it's brand new
look at atom a white guy with whatever powers and it dropped like a bomb. at least this way riri can become someone new when tony get's back and have a story established.
>>84306817
Because it's a sign of shit story and no creativity
It's piggybacking off a well known name for exposure and diversity for diversities sake, not because the character has actual depth
Like, Miles Morales was good,IMOKamala is good, Sam Wilson is okay but makes sense
Making a completely new OC donut steel, smarter than Tony Stark at 15, enrolled at MIT character is just hamfisted and stupid
Like, my favorite colored superhero is Static because he 1. looks like me and 2. his race actually matters to his characterization, he grew up in a shitty, crime filled urban city
Better than whatever we're getting now
>>84300921
Two key differences. They established rhodey as a character almost 5 years before putting him in the iron man armor, and then it was another 5 before he became war machine.
Even without the armor, Rhodey was still a reasonably functional character both in and out of the armor. This girl was literally introduced two months ago, and it's bendis.
Remember how long it took for Miles to get fucking anywhere?.
>>84301099
Actually, we could probably post both issues in the thread, or the next one about it, and it would definitively prove how shallow this shit is.
>>84301157
You move to your containment site first, darling
>>>/tumblr/
>>84304872
Most big shot superheroes are highly intelligent.
>>84306703
>no superheroes
>I-IT'S INDEPENDENT SO IT'S NOT A CAPE COMIC
Yes, and? You've brought up nothing that disputes Hellboy not being capeshit. The closest it has come is Lobster Johnson and he's but one character that's a reference to pulp fiction heroes and is in no way a significant part of the franchise.
>This is the finest definition of "pot kettle black". You don't have to mock anyone, trust me. You're nothing but a big joke yourself.
Says the person that starts throwing insults when someone starts talking shit about their their precious baby comics.
>So, you're still pretending the genre is complete shit because of your shitty elitism. Fuck off then.
More like because the vast majority of it is shit. Anything good is more of an exception rather than the rule.
>>84304872
Every single superhero is a super skilled genius, fit fuckboy
It's mandatory
>Piggybacking off of white characters instead of making new original characters like picrelated.
No thanks Marlel. It's lazy as shit and it's pathetic pandering.
And of course shes black because diversity in america means nothing but shoving women a niggers down everyones throat
Your country is taking jungle fever to a new level
Is this 616?
>>84301302
Rhodes makes sense, they're close friends. This is just some random dindu.
>>84300503
If the writing and execution was good, sure.
I doubt that's what will happen.
>>84301284
EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ALL BLACKS AND JEWS
>>84307634
polturds actually want to be taken seriously
>we don't believe PoC characters can hold their own so we'll just swap out another established A lister for one
How can SJWs eat this shit up?
>>84307389
> You've brought up nothing that disputes Hellboy not being capeshit
So, once again you're proving that you're retarded. I guess baby needs to be spoonfed on obvious things.
>Says the person that starts throwing insults
You mean, an appropriate response to you acting like a cunt?
>More like because the vast majority of it is shit.
Majority of everything is shit including your precious Euroshit trash, and the "vast" is just your shitty exaggeration.
>>84307770
Identity politics is basically self-flattery. As long as they can "like" a or retweet a picture of black girl iron man, they've done their job.
>>84300503
#1 She too young for current day comics.
#2 she better not turn into tchalla starter then everyone cause how dare you think a black guy isnt smarter then everyone
#3 might be cool. Bendis on street level stuff is the one time hes not fucking terrible. Also he has a black fetish and did well with Luke cage.
>>84300790
>Actually using the term PoC
You get that thats a racist term right?
>>84307770
Yeah, it's like, imagine you have a friend named Kevin. You met Kevin many years ago and over that time span you've spent a lot of time with him and gotten to know him well. He's become your best friend. Then one day a guy of a totally different race, who is clearly not Kevin, shows and and says "I am Kevin now. We are friends." You may not have been opposed to being this guy's friend had you met him on his own, in addition to Kevin, but he's most definitely not Kevin and him trying to take his place makes it inherently weird and suspect.
There are people on /co/ that actually support this identity far left politics propaganda. How mentally fucked up do you have to be to want to read some fucking stupid identity politics garbage that usurps older creations in order to push what amounts to far left propaganda. And it's white people, and only white people who get off to this identity politic bullshit. I can understand why SJW non-whites would like these developments, but white people get off to this despite it being self-harm. They don't see a problem with this. They somehow think we are supposed to care about a non-white character replacing older characters, that we should care about them being written by non-whites, about praising diversity. And yet, how is it diverse? It's always the same garbage, some black.
Oh, a black genius. That's real cute, given that in the real world, blacks on average have a lower IQ and are missing a bit of brain volume compared to other races. How do you guys defend that, by saying it's just a fantasy and a comic book?
>>84307956
Which makes it all the stranger they've decided to adopt the term for themselves.
>>84300503
Vote with your wallet. Don't buy it.
Does anyone who actually purchases and reads comic still have any amount of faith in Marvel? Outside of King's Vision, which won't be going that much longer, I can't stand anything they're putting out. Even Moon Knight is a shell of the Ellis version.
>>84300591
Ironmyn
>>84308001
STOP THIS SHIT.
You don't have to be a fucking edgelord racist monster to realize this whole SJW company trend is disgusting, pandering, and hollow. When fuckers post shit like this, it makes everyone who actually cares about quality in the medium look bad. It's the female ghostbusters thing all over again - you don't have to be a sexist asshole to realize that they're selling out a classic film for justice points and a quick cash grab.
>>84308020
people of color isn't the same thing as colored people
common anon i know you got better bait than that.
>>84308111
> missing a bit of brain volume
remember that you stand on the same side as this dude.
>>84301186
This is it right here. There is an occasional flash of brilliance from the outskirts of comics but the fact that people say dont read the big two just goes to show you comics on the whole are shit and will therefore drive anyone who isnt shit out of the medium.
>>84308202
Here's your (you).
>>84308111
How are you a racist monster for pointing out the fact that blacks are less intelligent then every other race on Earth. Why do you think they always make the black character this "smart" genius? Because there is an implicit acknowledgement that blacks are not intelligent, and every statistical facts only confirms this trend, so they go out there way to go to the other extreme by portraying black characters as smart.
Oh yeah, and blacks are, on average, missing a bit of brain volume as reflected by lower cranial capacity volumes.
>>84308364
>Here's your (you).
>>84308141
No but it still pushes all non-caucasians into one tiny group and makes their sole defining feature be "not white"
ITT: People who only started reading comics in the last 10 years having a fight with people who never read comics at all
>>84301013
they've already made the Master a chick.
This thread is autistic.
>>84308449
yeah because we don't have any other words like that, that is used daily in the news and media.
fuck off mate ain't worth trying to convince people that PoC is a bad word. especially here where people refers black people as niggers as if it's a normal thing to do.
>>84308551
>says the tripfag
>>84305409
>Be black girl
>Will be subbing for Iron Man for a bit
>Thinking of name
>Research powerful women throughout history.
>Settles on one that spoke of powerful national pride, and lead a country through what could have been ruin and disaster
>Took on all challengers and came out on top
>Honored public figure by the people of her country
>Decides to do a big reveal for the Avengers
>"Behold the IRON LADY!"
>Suit resembles Margaret Thatcher
>Room frozen in shock
>"God Save the Queen" plays over loudspeakers
>>84302227
hulk makes some sense
>>84308286
You are so mad that you actually took time out of your life to make that image.
>>84308633
You seem upset.
>>84300998
Yes.
>>84300998
Right about what exactly?
>>84303225
Great question.
That was an honest passing of the torch.
Batman didn't get some kind of rapid aging disease or anything.
He wasn't literally or even virtually killed off.
He just got old.
Terry, is also a white guy.
That would be normal considering the average US citizen yada yada, but as 'epilogue' established it he was borderline destined for the suit.
Terry makes mistakes and if you had a woman or person of color his age doing the same shit they would be seen only as a violent fuck-up and the writers and publishers as bigots.
Terry relies on the suit a lot that is essentially power armor.
Terry is pretty damn flawed which is great.
He pretty clearly murders a few people.
Terry isn't Batman, he is very much his own character.
Best perhaps being that Terry isn't self appointed, he basically has the express written consent of Batman Incorperated LLC and looks to Bruce for guidance all the damn time.
With Terry nobody was clearly pushing an agenda.
Someone wanted to tell neat stories about Gotham in the future with a more poorly trained, younger but less broody Batman after everything that was BTAS.
I even liked the sort of extended universe comics where you find out it was Joe Chill's son who pulled the trigger on Terry's dad.
>Again it's like poetry, it's sort of they rime.
Eventually though it is like
>Here is Catwoman Beyond, She's black
>Here is Batgirl Beyond, She's black
The real question is if any of them are Maxine Gibson because that would be great and the answer is sadly no.
>Here is Flash Beyond, She is also black
But they're all still fairly reasonable because even OG Batman is a spud and nobody, not even Terry is replacing their mainline counterparts.
If they had Batman Beyond with Terry as an incarnation of Bruce in the future, I'd have been as mad as people who hated Iron-man Armored Adventures where that version of Tony Stark should have been like a young original character who becomes Iron-man 2099 after the whole "Heroic Age" thing.
>>84300503
What was the point of killing off War Machine if she's replacing Tony Stark?
>>84309663
>Terry, is also a white guy.
He's irish bruh
>>84309677
>Implying War Machine always has to be black
>>84301527
>civilized conversation
>just about half of all the posts are either just ">>>/pol/" and ">>>/tumblr/" boogeymen screechers.
C'mon /co/, make one thread not three
>>84302809
guess hes not a powergirl fan considering this same happened like last year lol
>>84300503
>adventures of Iron Man with young Tony Stark
That is what it could be and it would be great probably. But it won't be, it'll be more of the Black lives matter, Sjw agenda pushing shit that Marvel has been ass raping their fans with
>>84309805
But that would mean they killed a black character to make a white character give up his title to another black title only for the black character to get replaced with at "worst" a white person.
Holy shit this actually makes sense using BENDIS logic in which a black girl takes the throne and then has a white sister/friend that she mentors as War Machine to stand in as Bendis's biological daughter.
>>84302906
With capes?
never. Even superman was new deal propaganda.
>>84303011
wtf,why is magneto there,magneto is someone who would do 9/11,in fact,hes done worst shit than that.
>>84302109
Omg yes plz. Make him a gay guy that hates dykes or something
>>84302291
Not like any of them ever picked up a comic to begin with
>>84302458
The Justice League rebirth did suck total dicks, but I feel like it'll get better (I hope). But the rest of the Rebirth is really good imo. Action comics is has a real interesting twist right off the bat. Green Lantern (Not Hal Jordan) is really good. The dynamic between Jessica and Bazz is really good, plus Atrocitus right off the bat. Batman, honestly, I don't know how I feel about it, it's kind of in a weird place. Green arrow looks like it's gonna be fucking great too tho
Is it pronounced ReeRee or RyeRye? Either one sounds pretty stereotypical to me.
When can we expect the "Demon in a Rock" storyline where Riri has to deal with crack addiction
>>84305307
Uhh, condescending much?
>>84301500
Me too dude. I don't even know why, there's no reason it should and it's obvious bait but... fuck.
>>84307800
>So, once again you're proving that you're retarded. I guess baby needs to be spoonfed on obvious things.
Okay then, explain them. I'm waiting. You STILL haven't said anything about how Hellboy is capeshit beyond saying it is.
>You mean, an appropriate response to you acting like a cunt?
I'm pretty sure throwing insults like a 12 year old over opinions on comic genre is more cunt-ish behavior than anything.
>Majority of everything is shit including your precious Euroshit trash, and the "vast" is just your shitty exaggeration.
The difference here is that "Indie" is a much larger sphere and has far more genre variation than capeshit as a whole.
>>84300503
I think this is the end of Marvel as we know it. They are nothing but desperate and agenda ridden.
someone said in a previous thread tony dies in civil war and transfers his brain wave or whatever into a computer and helps her like an ai.
look at the cover and reminds me of friday. could it be?????
>>84305831
If you can't care about the C-listers than you don't care about the medium itself. Besides that these replacements almost never sell well.
I'll take a Misty Knight solo over another replacement that's destined to be thrown away into cluttered team book hell five years after her book fails to take off.
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