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Is Becky the worst /co/ character of the 21st century? All answers point to yes!
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>>84233325
Becky is the basis of this comic. When she is not in the comic all the other characters should be asking "Where is Becky?"
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which is the Better Becky
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>>84234285

If you mean to beat the shit out of, then I say both.
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>>84233325

But is Becky worse than Carla?
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>>84233325
That's a lot of Beck copy, paste and zoom.
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>>84233325
Becky is fucking cancer.
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>>84234285
The one with black hair from Funky Winkerbean
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>>84233325
What the shit Willis? You go to all that fucking trouble of building up the conflict with the Mom and literally have everyone involved fucking bail and bring the arc to an end just like that?

We've had two months of rising action, where's the fucking climax?
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>>84235921

apparently it was Becky's unbridled communion sass.
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>>84233325
So wait, the spoilers were shit?
Well I shouldn't be surprised.
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>>84236019
Who's responsible for this?
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>>84233325
She wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the fact that her world literally works to make her life good and the audience is supposed to love her.

God I fucking hate her dumbass clown smile.
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>>84233325
So did the parents never question that Becky is living in their daughters dorm now?
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>>84236019
Aww, that's so cute...
And then they fuck, right?
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>>84236461
Happy dick edit anon.
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Regarding comments about the time zone:

>>84225257
Well, if it's a 3-hour drive like Joyce's parents said back at the very, very beginning of the comic...

Scenario:
If it's 8 AM, for example, then it would be 11 AM when they get back.

BUT if Becky is stupid and didn't realize they were in a different time zone, they would have to correct her.

Scenario:
In Time Zone A (where they currently are), it's 11 AM, but then they cross the line into Time Zone B. In Time Zone B, it's actually 12 PM.

So it's not unreasonable. It'll be 1 PM in their current time zone, based on the hours that will be spent in the car. But in the time zone they're going to, it'll actually be 2 PM.

We can only assume that she was corrected when we were shown Billie being lazy and presumptuous.
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>>84233325
Becky is bad in the same way that Sakura Haruno is bad. I feel like she could be good if the writer wasn't so bad at writing her, but she's still got a huge fanbase of the worst kinds of people, so there's really no need to bother with that.
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You see, Becky is the key to everything. We've got to get Becky working...because she's a funnier character than we've had before in this comic.
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>>84233325

Wow, what a fucking pointless arc.

Also, what difference does it make what time Becky gets back, if the problem is where she's sleeping tonight?
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>>84238362
Because what Willis is best at is distracting from the actual issues.
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>>84235981
Yes, spitefully taking communion crackers, such conflict. I'm sure to Willis and his apologists, this arc concluded successfully.
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>>84237142
Mary is a good Christian girl, so not until their wedding night. And, despite what the Catholics think, oral and anal count. However, handjobs and hotdogging don't count.
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>>84233325
becky's not even the worst character in DoA, considering mary exists.
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>>84240302
Nice try Willis.
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So what's gonna happen now that this big clash is going to happen?
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>>84240302
Mary: A bitch but harmless unless provoked

Carla: Goes out to antagonize other people

Becky: Causes harm to people just by existing
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>>84240402
Nah, Mary is pretty objectively a shitheel. It's just that her original complaint that started the current conflict was perfectly reasonable, her escalation mild, and she's going up against Carla and Ruth - who are the worst characters in DoA.
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>>84240585
I like ruth.
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>>84240585
Ruth should not be allowed to get away with the shit she does. Ruth deserves unretrained punishment and karmic backlash for the shit she's pulled.
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>>84240675
Why?

No seriously, I want to know why.
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>>84240695
she's a shitheel actively making an attempt to fix her personal problems and become a better person. her relationship with billie was unhealthy as fuck, but it's actually led to her making an attempt to connect with several characters.
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>>84234285
No
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>>84240730
I find it hilarious you think she's going to come out of this a better person, especially since she's already declared she's only doing it to spite Mary
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>>84240585
Dis gun be good

How is Mary "objectively a shitheel"?
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>>84240785
she also declared she'd murder people and break bones.
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>>84240789
She's a petty, judgmental person whose sole saving grace is that she isolates herself.

>>84240730
She literally had Billie move out then got angry at Billie for abandoning her, despite them living a few doors apart.
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>>84241061
hence 'making an attempt'
have you ever encountered an addict trying to detox? they get pretty damn petty.
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>>84241142
She didn't start detoxing until afterwards. In fact, most of the scenes of her detoxing seem to imply that having to act nice and caring are what are really affecting Ruth, not sobriety.
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>>84241061
...Dude, look at the environment she's in. If the worst you can say is that she's "petty and judgmental" while surrounded by these fucking freakshows, then she's a damn good person.
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>>84241335
she started detoxing because she didn't want her self-destruction hurting anyone else, and as a result of her not caring, carla was being hurt.
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>>84236395
Maybe he changed them up after seeing the initial reactions to the Patreon and leaked comics.

As it is, it just makes things look even more abrupt. Like Becky was able to take the piss out of the communion without any repercussions.
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>>84241061

Basically this. I love mary, she's kind of the unofficial mascot of the edits tumblr, but yeah, in general she's a pretty awful bitch. It's just that she's a huge bitch surrounded by even worse trainwrecks and thus comes off as the fairly sympathetic character.

>>84241396

>carla was being """hurt"""

FTFY. Contrary to what Willis says, a one-off incident where a trans person is misgendered isn't really that hurtful or damaging to them in the long term, especially when it's the climax to a pretty involved dispute.
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>>84241458
fair enough, but it was still evidence of ruth actually not being completely heartless.
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>>84239994
Link?
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>>84241449
We had already seen the panel of Hank asking the guy to take Carol home in a preview, plus Willis has a long buffer.

>>84241396
It's completely against her character to care if Carla was being hurt. Also I mean she didn't stop drinking until after Billie moved out.
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>>84241538
not really, she'd been shown doing her job and trying to speak to people multiple times.
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>>84241564
Not out of her own will. She always did it because someone else prodded her, whether it was a dormmate or her boss.
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>Becky tells Joyce not to make a scene about wearing a dress.
>Joyce reluctantly obliges.
>Becky makes a huge scene by ripping her dress off in the middle of the congregation.

She is cancer.
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>>84241396
Carla deserves to be hurt

you have to learn to respect others if you want to be respected, that includes changing your gender.
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>>84241564
Sure, if by "doing her job" and "trying to speak" you mean physically assaulting residents.
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We eventually have to reach a point where Becky's outlandish cartoon-like nature clashes with the ongoing realism of the environment in which she lives.

So, what do you think Becky will do to completely fuck over everybody in the cast, directly or indirectly?
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>>84241798
Nothing. Remember that Willis has stated that nothing bad will happen to Becky while at the same time the focus on his writing are the reactions of straight people to the events that effect his queer characters. Becky can literally do no wrong as the purpose of her character is the facilitate drama and development of other characters but not cause it.
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>>84234478
You know, I actually don't know. Both are annoying author Mary Sues who are self-absorbed, make every situation they're in worse and really don't give a shit about anyone else.
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>>84241890
It's not so much that anything bad is happening to Becky as much as it is that what she does ends up fucking over everybody around her.

>>84241986
I'd say that Becky is worse because she shows up more.
On another note: She's never actually done anything redeeming. Carla at least did that one thing that one time when Sal went up against Amazi-Girl or whatever. Becky hasn't actually done anything other than kiss an autistic girl who looks like she's twelve.
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>>84241986
Carla. Becky can at least act as an enabler to Joyce and Dina. Carla is just there.
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>>84242058
I don't know if the thing with Sal counts, as Amazi-Girl was going after all of them.
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>>84240789
>>84241061
>>84241391
>>84241458
We did the math. Mary is a terrible person in nearly 75% of her appearances.

She's smug as crap, too. However, she is still somehow likable, because she's earnest in what she believes and is more complex than meets the eye.

Plus this:
>Basically this. I love mary, she's kind of the unofficial mascot of the edits tumblr, but yeah, in general she's a pretty awful bitch. It's just that she's a huge bitch surrounded by even worse trainwrecks and thus comes off as the fairly sympathetic character.

She reacts kind of reasonably to her surroundings, and she only gets more ridiculous and hostile as the environment gets more ridiculous and hostile.
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>>84243495
She's trapped in a madhouse world of violent drunks, affluenza-afflicted attention whores, rebels without causes, dinosaur obsessed lesbians that resemble middle schoolers, people content to be referred to as Other Rachel, and the only person who has the same frame of mind as her is Roz.
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Hi I wasn't paying attention. What's this artificial dilemma going on in this strip? Why are they doing whatever? Does anybody actually go to class?
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>>84244201
>dinosaur obsessed lesbians that resemble middle schoolers
I don't think Dina is actually a lesbian. I think she's so starved for a friend/physical connection she would fuck Ethan straight if that was her only option.
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>>84244287
Straight girl went home to see her family for the weekend because of what happened the week before. That was when ginger lesbian's dad kidnapped her at gunpoint to beat the gay out of her.

Lesbian is still homeless. This has been discussed at length, but no one has addressed where she's going to be living now that the bi, half-Asian girl is taking her room back because their terrible RA broke up with her.

The bi girl thinks she has hours upon hours to laze about in her room, but she needs to come up with a plan now for the lesbian since she's taking her room back.

The joke is that Becky (the red-head lesbian) is homeless.
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>>84244353
Given her statements about her sexuality, and the fact that she did go to some LGBT student thing, she's probably bi.
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>>84244621
I'm offended that Willis would use being homeless as a plot point. It's insensitive to everyone who is or has been homeless. It's doubly offensive because of how many homeless people aren't straight and have untreated mental illnesses.
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>>84245079
Becky being homeless is mostly an exercise in Willis writing around reality because otherwise he'd have to make his plots more complicated. Sad thing is that he wouldn't need to do much, as it was early enough in the semester for Becky to get a transfer when she first showed up.
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Patreanon: can you please provide your aid so we can mock tomorrow's strip a day early?
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tumblr anon here, I'm going to bed but if someone wants to send me an edit or some fanart suitably american to post when I wake up either at doa-edits.tumblr.com/submit or just by posting it as a reply to this post, I'll put it up and credit you.
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>>84233325
>that gives me a whole extra hour
It really doesn't.
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>>84248697
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Becky's "smile" reminds me of that grimace you make at the orthodontist's when you have to hold that awful-tasting crap in your mouth in order to make a mold of your teeth.
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>>84235876

Oh, I remember her. The two timing whore that married some other guy while her husband was a prisoner in another country.
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All right, /co/, who do you hate the least in this comic?

I'm going to say Marcie, because she hasn't been a real problem. She is active and out-going and "speaks" her mind. She isn't actively terrible like everyone else is.

Anyone want to make a case for any of the other characters?
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>>84249759

>it's a "Willis spams his shitty webcomic thread, and then replies to this post saying it's not him for nonsensical reasons" thread.
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>>84236019
nice of Malaya to put her rack on Mary
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>>84233325
On the one hand, red heads and freckles are a huge turn on for me. On the other, I hate Becky.

I'm conflicted.
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>>84241635
>that includes changing your gender.

Except that Carla's still a guy regardless whatever mods he may have gone through
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>>84243495
>We did the math. Mary is a terrible person in nearly 75% of her appearances.

Compared to most of the cast thats still not all that bad

Everyone she squares off against is a massive shitbag. You can't help but like her to spite characters you hate
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>>84245079
>It's insensitive to everyone who is or has been homeless.

Willis only supports social justice to stroke his ego and score Liberal brownie points. He really doesn't give two shits about genuine justice.
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>>84246383

Don't nag him. If he can do it, he'll do it.
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>>84250008

You're an idiot
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>>84250364

Don't be. It's only logical that rules have exceptions
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>>84250614
> Social
> Justice
> Warrior
We've been over this. The answer is always
> Pick none.
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>>84241798
That already happened, don't you remember the car chase ? Physics were on a holyday the entire time
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>>84249999
I like Dana. She can be pretty funny and doesn't seem to be an awful person.
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>>84251212
That's the universe bending over backwards to make sure Becky doesn't get scratched. Might as well make her the protagonist from Unbreakable, minus the part where that guy couldn't swim.

I'm talking about Becky doing something so outlandish and anti-productive that it affects everybody around her, like burning down a building or something.
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>>84251904
Wouldn't that make Becky a god? A hero leaps over buildings. A superhero blasts away buildings. A god tells the building to move.
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>>84251975
It's not so much that Becky is a goddess as much as it is that David Willis is the Walkyverse's God.

All follows according to His whim. Those who meet his approval are met with bountiful rewards. Those who defy his will are met with eternal punishment.
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>>84236019
So Mary wouldn't consider it gay if she had feelings for Carla, right?
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>No new early strip.
One job.
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Wait, no one cares that Becky just tore up and discarded that dress? Like, I know it was probably a hand-me-down that no one ever wore, but still. You just don't do that to someone's stuff.
>Oh wait. It's Becky.
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>>84252468
That's actually a really good question. The Bible has very little to say about what we would consider transgenderism and, of what could be interpreted to cover it, most of them would be considered Old Testament temple law and overwritten by the New Covenant. There are several passages, Galatians 3:28, Matthew 6:25-33, and 56:4-5, that would imply it doesn't matter. Also, if Mary considers Carla a man then it wouldn't count on a personal level.

>>84253071
I think we can all appreciate the upper body strength it'd take to completely tear away a dress like that.
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>>84251975

I'm weirdly down with Becky literally being god and not knowing it. Sure would explain a lot.
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>>84234285
tiny mouth and huge chin with a big gross pimple
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>>84254184
>Both Haruhi and Becky are insufferable in their respective series.
Pottery.
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>>84249028
somewhere in the last 2 years Willis decided that what cartoon characters really need is constantly visible gumlines and he continually relaxes how exaggerated an expression someone needs to expose them.

It's a convention most comic artists avoid for a reason.
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>>84237830
According to the patreon bonus strip, it's closer to a four hour drive.

Doesn't make the time zone thing any less stupid, but I thought it was a good segue to posting the bonus strip.
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>>84255028
>As per usual
Did Willis just acknowledge how stupid this recap is in this situation, as they all already know how long it will be ?
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>>84255028
I love it when characters describe mundane shit they already know and that I don't care about and then finish up with some punchline depending on a reference I also don't give a shit about.
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>>84255028
I really like the idea that Becky is just a more spontaneous version of Joyce that is a lesbian.
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>>84252040
Does that make her a priestess?
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>>84255358
They're basically the same person, Becky's just a bit grosser and obnoxious. Beyond that they're basically always on the same page (except for being gay.)I'm now realizing that I really don't mind them when Becky ISN'T shouting out, "I'm Gay" every 10 seconds.
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>>84255354
I'm confused as to why they're wanting to listen to a thirteen year old Christmas album in September and why said album is only forty minutes long.
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>>84255461
Weren't they visiting for Thanksgiving but apparently now haven't stayed for the whole Thanksgiving?
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>>84255488

nah I think it was just a weekend trip home. the comic is like in September depending on how hard you go with the timeline
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>>84255524
pretty sure that yeah, this is the fourth weekend.
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>>84255524
>>84255488

According to the timeline Willis gave, and based on the schedule of the university it's set at, it's currently the last week of September.
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>>84255028
Weird.

Thanks for posting the bonus strip!

So he can't even keep track of his own canon. What else is new?

>>84255354
On the Comics Curmudgeon, it's referred to as the Exposition Game.

Like, "I'm waiting on my boyfriend, [Boyfriend's Name]" is one of my favorites, when everyone involved knows the person speaking and who their boyfriend is.
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>>84255028
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Season_of_Love
>The Season of Love (also known as Christmas: The Season of Love) is a Christmas album, as well as the fourth studio album, of the Contemporary Christian group 4Him. It was released on Benson Records on October 1, 1993.

>Due to its original success among 4Him's works, the album was re-issued on September 30, 1997 with a new album cover and art.
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>>84255921
Those are some 90s looking motherfuckers alright.
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>>84255702
>Don't let anyone change you
>Becky is the one who changes her
That foreshadowing
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>>84257071
It'd be more appropriate to say that Dorothy changed Joyce. And that Becky's roommate changed Becky.
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>>84245079
I read in one of these threads that after Willis dropped out of college, he lived illegally in the dorms for about a year.
If so, Becky is sadly realistic.
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>>84257280
That's depressing. How many author avatars does one person need?
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>>84235921
>>84235981
>>84239857
i'm sure the point is to "save" this tension for later. later being four years from now when we've progressed to thursday of this same week
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>>84255028
>4him
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>>84249999
Sierra is love. Sierra is life.
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has someone asked if the communion stuff was really supposed to be the climax?

what a fucking wet fart
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>>84249999
I legit like joyce's dad, autistic dino girl, and the black girl(sarah?)
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>>84255702

I can post more bonus strips! Here's the other one from this month. Malaya is unpleasant as always, but Lucy's kinda nice. I think she'd probably be ok to hang out with.

(I'd do an imgur gallery for the bonus strips and link that here, but Willis links his bonus strips in the stupidest way possible and I don't have the time/motivation to put effort into finding all of them right now.)
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>>84234762
Holy Jesus, you're right

Fucking hell
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>>84249999
I like Ethan, Sarah, Malaya and Lucy.

I like Sal too, but don't think a case for her would work here.

>>84260841
Yeah, there's Lucy.
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And then here's the strip that'll go up tomorrow. We had to abandon the Becky and Joyce story entirely for more Carla.
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>>84260926
The inability to focus on one goddamn plotline is almost schizophrenic.
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so what are the odds willis cut the arc early because of the spoilers?
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>>84260926
Oh boy how will Carla drastically overreact to having her favourite children's cartoon criticized?
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>>84249999
Malaya's cute and sassy (in both universes) and Marcie's cool and Stacked. Sure do hope they fuck. Danny's been pretty inoffensive I guess.
I liked Walky until the stupid racism plot became a thing (Not that it has NEVER happened but that's such a rare and specific context given that the fact that the narrative expects us to just...believe it pisses me off)
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>>84260926
So can someone please educate someone who first entered this during the "Carla was being an asshole to Mary" story

What's with Carla and this "Ultra Car" thing?
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>>84260841
3-way when?
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>>84261109
in shortpacked, an AU story, ultra car was her original body. she later got a humanoid robot form, which is carla now.
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>>84261208
Oh, ok

That's pretty stupid.
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>>84261109
It's her favorite show, probably. Of course in the Walkyverse (the original willis comic continuity) Ultra Car was an actual character who upgraded into a human girl for no real reason and then finger fucked malaya with a giant cartoony hand. I fapped to it So obviously in this universe, being slightly more grounded in reality, it's just a failed Cartoon series that Carla has latched onto because she's a misanthrope.
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>>84261109
Ultra Car is Carla's Carsona.

(Ultra Car was a car with an asshole AI personality in the previous continuity, who eventually got a Carla robot body when he realized he was a 30 year old SUV.)
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>>84261239
yup. so now, instead of being the wacky talking car in a humanoid body, carla is the wacky girl in a guy's body.

isn't willis amazing at writing diverse, original characters?
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>>84261242
>it's just a failed Cartoon series that Carla has latched onto because she's a misanthrope.

Or possible a cartoon series that Carla forced her parents to waste a shitton of money to make because Carla's a spoiled bitch.
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>>84261302
we don't know that yet.

it was part of the spoilers which have now been disproven.
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>>84258081

All of them.
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>>84260926

>>It's okay for Carla to talk shit about others
>>God forbid anyone says something that offends HIM.
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>>84249759
She had every reason to assume Wally was dead.
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>>84261294

There's no way a robot hand that large with an extention that long could fit inside her and STILL have room for the necessary motors to move and operate the rest of the body
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>>84261583
>expecting logic
it was a fully sentient robot car put into a human chassis, and she apparently always had a pie handy too.

it's just hammerspace logic.
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>>84250579
>Compared to most of the cast thats still not all that bad
i dont think anyone did the numbers for the rest of the cast but carla only got 51%. so yeah, marys comparatively pretty bad
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>>84261554

She didnt actually see his body. Just because it couldnt be identified didn't mean it absolutely HAD to be him. She didn't even wait for the body to get cold before she jumped into the arms of his friend.

So Wally was unjustly imprisoned and suffered horribly for a decade. His love for his wife keeping him going. Only to find out this same whore of a wife thought so little of him she couldn't be bothered to honor his memory and hooked up with his friend right off the bat. And when he came back she STILL chose the friend over him, even though marriage vows state explicitly till death do you part

Where's the justice in that? Wally didn't deserve that. What about HIS feelings? He LOVED her. She was his life. And she threw him away like he was only a used paper cup. He just got fucked over relentlessly
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>>84261677

No, she isn't
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>>84260926
this is the first time this cartoon has actually been mentioned in the comic
i was really hoping it would continue to never be mentioned
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>>84261816
ok, you just keep telling yourself that
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>>84260926
>Nerd defending a shit cartoon fights with a fucking beta
Guess Willis is a closet /co/ regular.
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>>84255028
>realize you like munching rug
>but still like your shitty Christian rock bands

I like that the dad doesn't look stoked
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>>84261109
>>84261208
>>84261242

How deeply shall we unpack this... Ultra-Car was originally a creation Willis made when he was a kid, who has since appeared in pretty much every one of his works.

In Shortpacked, Ultra was a wise-cracking robot car, like KITT, who later decided to upgrade into a girl-type robot named Carla

In Dumbing of Age Carla is a fan of the in-universe cartoon Ultra-Car, and has basically modeled her look and wisecracking persona after it.
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>>84261870
Mary isn't as bad because she doesn't pretend to be hugely offended when someone says something to her which could be construed as offensive

Carla on the other hand is fine with dishing out the dickishness but then when someone shows her a picture of a dick she is reminded that she habs benis XDDD and pretends like her whole world is shattered or her life is ruined or whatever
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>>84262313
>Mary isn't as bad because she doesn't pretend to be hugely offended when someone says something to her which could be construed as offensive
she was hugely offended when the girls she brought to church disagreed with her on things

>when someone shows her a picture of a dick she is reminded that she habs benis XDDD and pretends like her whole world is shattered
that literally didnt happen
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>>84262349
>that literally didnt happen
It literally did. The arc where Joyce drew dicks all over the dorm. Carla took it as a personal attack until she realized they were everywhere
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>>84262381
she didnt act like her world was shattered. when she realized it wasnt a personal attack she didnt have a problem with it anymore
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>>84260926
>>84260960
Keep imagining a music stinger with each abrupt scene switch.
"Badun-da-DA-DA-dundun-wuuuuuuuu"
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>>84262421
>you belong... IN THE BOYS DORM

And then Carl's mind shut down as he faced flashbacks to the private all-boy's highschool he attended where he was repeated anally violated after his roommate discovered Carl liked to crossdress, filmed him secretly and used the video to blackmail Carl into becoming his personal fucktoy

Mary basically told Carla to go get raped, the bitch
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>>84262475
Or the Johnny Test whipcracks, perhaps?
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>>84260841
Why is she such a cunt to Lucy?
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>>84260926
>writing in a Dexter's Lab crossover with his Original Cartoon Do Not Steal
I preferred our headcanon that Ultra Car was an Americanized version of an anime franchise.
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>>84262757
It's not Dexter's Lab, Dexter in Dexter & Monkey Master refers to the head alien character from It's Walky.
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>>84263494
Oh.

Well, that's still more stuff I don't care about, unless we can flesh out "Dexter & Monkey Master" better than Willis can like we did for Ultra Car.
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>>84261092
The fact that Willis basically handwaves that whole subplot pisses me off more than anything else in the comic, save for that blog post he did at the end of the Toedad arc

Intraracial racism is a very nuanced, very complicated topic, involving phenotype differences (skin color, hair, etc.), engagement in racial culture, adherence to both positive and negative stereotypes, and the effect of the interracial racism imposed by whatever the primary race is in the area. And Walky and Sal's situation is doubly complicated because parental favoritism is clearly involved, so figuring out what's the fault of racism and what's just being the unfavorite isn't clear cut. This isn't the sort of bullshit that you shove in the corner of an arc about a fucking Psalty ripoff. And it's not like he could have dealt with racism in any other way. This is an Indiana public university; it's not exactly a bastion of forward thinking. Plenty of opportunities to take a good look at racial issues that aren't complicated as fuck to get across in a five-panel-a-day comic.

But noooo, Willis throws a tantrum whenever he has to deal with ethical complexity on any fucking level, so a really complex issue that could have been the focus of a solid plot in its own right just becomes one more way for Willis to piss on his parents.

I know 4chan talks a lot about how Willis isn't even a good social justice person, but let me tell you, he's completely useless when it comes to race. Period.
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>>84260926
HATE CRIME!!
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>>84260926
>Name on door is literally a portmanteau of the show name and their real name
>Is it there ironically?
Is Carla gonna beat up Walky?
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>>84265727
If Carla beats up Walky, is it a hate crime, or empowerment?
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>>84260926
So Willis is a 45 year old man still writing comics about his dumb characters he made as a toddler?
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>>84265727
>Carla starts pummeling Walky
>Mary pushes Carla off of Walky's prone form
>knives are drawn
>Ruth is in the midst of her DTs and doesn't even hear the whole thing
It would be glorious.
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>>84260926

bitch has some amazing hearing.
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>>84265810
How many privelage points does Carla have?
She's trans but she's also rich.
Walky's half black but apparently gets benefits for not being black enough? (also fuck Willis for making me actually think that sentence.)
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>>84265810
neither, but it will be his racist parent's fault somehow
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>>84265727
Let's count the progress points.

Black Guy
>Is half Black, but less Black than his sister
>Is Poor
>Is still Male

Carla
>Is White
>Is Rich
>Is Male, but self identifies as Trans
>Already a victim of "Hate Crime"

I dunno; it all depends on who's more marginalized, the Black or the Trans.

Hint, it's the poor
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>>84265972
Are the Walkertons poor, though?
They were able to plea bargain armed robbery into out of state boarding school. And Amber's cop-humiliating assault on Sal would have probably forced a payout.
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>>84266434
I thought they were.

Even so, Carla's parents are apparently rich
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>>84266434
They can at least afford two college tuition bills. Who knows how many loans they had to take out though
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>>84266486
>>84266882
Yeah, see, I saw them as comfortably middle class, rather than poor.
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>>84265810
It's a shouting match about cartoons is what it is.

Kinda like here, amirite?
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>>84266486
where was this established? Only place I saw this was in the spoilers slipshine anon was posting, and due to the church visit fizzling without a fight, those spoilers were false.
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>>84267165
Omg. Is he using this as a strand-in for his feelings about "Young Justice".
You're so DAMN transparent Willis.
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>>84267199
...Or it's about Transformers.

Because it's ALWAYS about Transformers.
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>>84267199
Wasn't that shit about YJ proven to be false?
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>>84267165
>too smart

So willis is a DC fag I see.
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>>84233325
Literally, and not figuratively, literally what was the point of this strip.

She's being driven in from the next time zone. Okay.
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>>84262757
It's Kuruma Hero Shinjin you pleb.

>>84263494
>>84263614
Gimme the rundown on Dexter and Monkey Master and I'll see what I can come up with.
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>>84267199
Young Justice came out after 1989 and isn't Transformers, so I can't imagine Willis giving 2 shits about it.
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>>84267366
Post the Kuruma Hero Shinjin list again. That was great while it lasted.
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>>84267165
>Flying GIRL Car
Hmm, I guess I'm dumb, despite Ultra Car getting the girl chassis in Shortpacked, I never got the idea that it was always a girl. So I just thought of the car as how I originally thought of it, which is agender (or male by default).

To be fair I didn't really put a lot of thought into what the Ultra Car cartoon was or the Ultra car character, and I was not reading Shortpacked back when that reveal happened so I didn't have a strong reaction to that either way. It does make way more sense that a transgirl would have a female idol.
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>>84267443
Actually 1989 came out in 2014 and Young Justice was in 2010
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>>84267472
dis nigga
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>>84267472
I'm not talking about the sliding time scale of DoA, just that Willis is a relentless nostalgiafag.
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>>84267238
Doesn't matter, Willis wants it to be true(tm).
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Y'know, then you think about how Carla supposedly bases her personality and lifestyle around the cartoon character,

that means that Carla decided to transition not because of any dysphoria, but because they wanted to be a cartoon character who was also a female car.

Carla decided to transition from male to female because their favorite cartoon character was a girl.

I don't care what you believe; that's insulting to actual transsexuals with gender dysphoria.
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>>84265904

Carla is the most privileged primary character in this entire comic.
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why the hell do people continue to claim carla is rich?

what's this based on?
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>>84267587
Carla being rich, probably
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>>84267599
where's the source on that? when was it established carla was rich?
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>>84267587
The comic.
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>>84267635
mkay then.
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>>84267556

Well, yeah. As far as trans individuals go she's about as "oppressed" as Caitlyn Jenner.
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>>84267635
Yeah people will resent the fact you exist when you're an asshole, it's not difficult to grasp.

But if you run with it you're a dickhole.
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>>84267730
So dickhole > asshole on the asshole scale. Huh. Good to know.
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>>84267195
After Carla totally owned Mary with an epic prank she gloated about how her parents were the head of some company and could ruin her life. Then her last name was shown in the OS on someone's phone. Then she threatened to have her parents hack everyone cellphones
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>>84267730
TRANS PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO EARN YOUR RESPECT, THEY CAN BE AS AWFUL AS THEY WANT AND YOU HAVE TO LOVE IT

THE FACT THAT SHE WOULD BE EXACTLY AS HATEABLE IF SHE WERE A CISWOMAN DOESN'T MATTER
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>>84267548
carla "basing her personality and lifestyle around ultracar" hasnt been established in comic and i dont remember willis saying anything that extreme about her
as far as we know its just a show she likes
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>>84267866
It's in her cast page entry.
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So I guess those spoilers weren't true after all.

Shame; for a moment I actually had hope things would be going somewhere.

>>84267866
It's in her character bio on the site:
>Her only known soft spot is for an obscure cartoon character from her childhood who she seems to have styled herself after.
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>>84267851
theres no reason why you cant hate her for being an asshole. the point is she thinks mary hates her for being trans, instead of all the valid reasons shes been offering
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>>84267896
ok, got it.
though "styled after" is pretty mild and im pretty sure you guys are going way farther with it that youre supposed to
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>>84267932

She is Ultra Car. She has always been Ultra Car and that's never going to change no matter how many different universes Willis puts her in. This goes beyond a simple reference or in-joke; this is Willis' unimaginative, retreaded storytelling at its peak.
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>>84267932
Perhaps, but given Willis' penchant for Occam's Razor, it's easier to assume that "styled after" straight up means "doing everything she can to be like her childhood cartoon heroine".
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>>84267916
>want people to hate you
>get anallydevastated when they do

If you can't take it don't dish it out
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>>84267965
in that case itd be more likely its a coincidence that shes similar to the cartoon, because she wouldve been the same even if she hadnt seen it
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>>84267932
I don't think she transitioned because of the character like that one anon said, but it's pretty clear that the show and character are extremely important to her.
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>>84267613
When she shit talks Mary, she talks about her obviously knowing who her parents are, implying they're easily known by name alone.
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>>84267969
she wants them to hate her for the right reasons, aka. all the obnoxious shit she does. thats the whole point, and its why she has a problem with mary hating her (because its probably more about her being trans than her behavior) and not anyone else
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>>84268056
And when WE hate her for all of that in real life, Willis and his followers freak the fuck out and call us transphobic.
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>>84268086
yeah well willis is a fucking moron, what do you expect
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>>84268056

>(because its probably more about her being trans than her behavior)

I seriously doubt that Mary would hate Carla as much as she does, if it all, if Carla had never done anything to push her buttons. Disapproving of her being trans? Yeah. Outright hatred? I'm not so sure.
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>>84268086
IRL Sjw's seem to believe trans people can't be disliked.

in-comic though, I can...actually respect carla's actions.
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>>84268056
>because its probably more about her being trans than her behavior
That's fucking bullshit, because Mary only brings up her being trans after exhausting her other options.

If Mary had an issue with her being trans, then Mary would have brought it up, but what we see in the comics is Mary apparently not giving a shit until it turns out that Carla won't fucking stop being an annoying piece of shit.

Mary was apparently fine with Carla being there before she started being an annoying cunt
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>>84268117
...Well, that's the oddest combination of opinions I've seen in awhile. Why do you think she's justified? I'm genuinely curious.
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>>84268114
its hard to say cause of the shitty way willis framed it. if wed seen mary being bitchy to carla before the skating incident it wouldve been better
considering mary DID bring up carla being trans multiple times though it could go either way
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>>84268130
>what we see in the comics is Mary apparently not giving a shit
>Mary was apparently fine with Carla being there before
actually thats the first time they interact, so its impossible to tell what mary thought of her before that happened
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>>84268130
Yeah, Willis really needed to show some more malice on Mary's part for me to buy that all of her actions are driven by hate. Also, since that happened, Mary hasn't gone in on Carla despite her having free reign while Ruth is being blackmailed. It does not read as if Carla's existence weighs on Mary at all in regular everyday life.
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>>84268146
she knows that people who are going to dislike her based on her junk are going to dislike her, no matter what, but she's self-conscious about her junk.

since they're going to hate her anyway, she's giving them a more valid reason to.

for the record, I'm not saying I like carla at all, and I've met trans people IRL who I didn't like because yeah, they were bitches.

but I've also gone out in public in very, VERY obvious drag(I'm 6'3, 225 pounds, and square shouldered, and was wearing a tight top and a miniskirt) so that my trans friend(who is much shorter, overweight, and has a more generic build) wouldn't be noticed as much.

...so maybe I'm a bit biased.
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>>84268152
>considering mary DID bring up carla being trans multiple times

Wasn't it just ONE time?
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>>84268208
also to note: this could also explain why carla shut down so badly when mary directly addressed her being trans--she's not comfortable with people calling her on that, so the stupid pranks are a deflection.
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>>84268216
once in that scene, and then later again she called her a freak or something
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>>84268152
>considering mary DID bring up carla being trans multiple times though it could go either way
She very well could have been uncomfortable with a trans girl being in the girls' dorm, but that doesn't change the fact that she apparently didn't care enough to vocalize her own, personal feelings until she was frustrated by said person's behavior.

She was apparently perfectly content to live and let live until Carla literally wouldn't stop being the world's biggest cunt.

And sure, it's not nice when someone insults you in an argument, but if you have a big sword of Damocles hanging over your head, it's probably not a good idea to go around prodding people, because if you frustrate someone enough, they might decide to cut the string.
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>>84268208
Yeah, I can see that. I wish DoA was actually written well enough that "she's giving them a reason to hate her" was more obvious.

(I really like the detail of you dressing in drag to help your trans friend. You sound like a really good friend.)
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>>84268208
>but I've also gone out in public in very, VERY obvious drag(I'm 6'3, 225 pounds, and square shouldered, and was wearing a tight top and a miniskirt) so that my trans friend(who is much shorter, overweight, and has a more generic build) wouldn't be noticed as much.
wouldnt that call more attention to your friend though? i dont really know, but people are more likely to pick up on something if theyre looking
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>>84268294
I also lived with her for 3 years. trans people still get treated like shit, even here in Canada, and it's frustrating as shit to see.

>>84268325
yeah, they're looking at the big dude in a miniskirt, not the smaller, fatter 'woman' in far more normal-looking clothes.

you put a big-ass neon sign on a roof, nobody's going to notice the small cardboard sign next to it.
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>>84268353
At least there are still SOME nice Canadians. :)
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>>84268353
>you put a big-ass neon sign on a roof, nobody's going to notice the small cardboard sign next to it
Well, yeah, if she doesn't pass.

At that point, you'd just look like a pack of degenerates on parade, and at worst, they'd assume she's also in Drag.

I've never met a trans-whatever, but I'd assume normalcy is the best policy.

You sound actually retarded, which is unsurprising, considering you're Canadian.
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>>84268238
I can totally get, say, wearing roller skates to obfuscate her height, which could be something that she thinks of as a marker that she's trans. I can even get her being kinda prickly so people avoid her so they don't spend enough time around her to notice that she's trans. And also so they have her actions to get upset at. But she went so far in engaging with Mary, that I'm not sure any of that works anymore.

It would actually make way more sense if Mary had dropped a vague transphobic comment before the exchange. I can totally get not wanting to listen to someone whom you suspect is prejudiced against you even if they're in the right. As it stands I don't really know what Carla's motivation for bugging Mary was, other than just pissing her off, and if that's it, she succeeded.
>>84268252
She did refer to "misplaced freaks" which is obviously signifying Carla, but she said it to Ruth.
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>>84268407
I never said willis was a good writer, just that I can appreciate carla's decisions.
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i can't get out of my head how some anon pointed out the thing Mary said could've been just "you're loud and an asshole like a childish boy" remark and not known Carla was trans and that that could be a fascinating plot.

this assumes there there were other no signs to mary carla was trans which i think is up for debate? (meaning willis is a bad artist and didn't convey it but if he meant to convey it what matters)
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>>84267215
To be fair, transformers was much more successful than Walky implies ultracarwas, so it's likely he has shitty taste about some other cartoon.
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>>84267451
I don't have it, I don't think there is a searchable /co/ archive right now either.
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>>84267587
The fact that her phone's brand has her goddamn last name in it.
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I found this by googling the title on some site, that I guess is an archive of some sort?

Kuruma Hero Shinjin:

Animated:
Kuruma Hero Shinjin Prologue: Six episode OVA used to determine if the show was marketable
Kuruma Hero Shinjin: 78 episode tv series and arguably the most popular part of the franchise
Kuruma Hero Shinjin: The Movie: Retelling of the first season
Kuruma Hero Shinjin: Ignition: Four episode OVA based on unused concepts that forms an alternate universe
Kuruma Hero Shinjin: 52 episode tv series that is a direct continuation of the first series but is usually considered a distinct entry by the fandom due to the three year break in production between the shows
Kuruma Hero Shinjin Eternal: Movie retelling the second series

Print adaptations:
Kuruma Hero Shinjin: manga series that covers the first series though its plot diverges rougly around episode 55
Kuruma Hero Daisuke: manga series following the story of a minor character from the first OVA
Kuruma Hero Shinjin: The Long Road Home: four book light novel series that is basically a shoujo version of the story. Shares little in common other than the characters and basic plot setup

Sequels:
Kuruma Hero Shinjin the Second: Regear: 26 episode tv series that is the infamous sequel to the franchise, widely panned for arbitrary personality changes, replacement of established characters with new ones, cheap animation, and poor CGI
Mechanic Wendy: manga series focused on the titular character that serves as an interquel and sequel to the second series

Adaptations:
Ultracar: 65 episode redub for American television
Ultra Car: low-budget live action pilot, never aired. Only the theme sequence and toy concepts have been made public.
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>>84268485
gobots
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>>84268482
Mary wasn't around for the in-universe hints, or at least not around for one of them.

>>84268485
I don't think that Ultracar is supposed to be anything other than a childhood OC that he likes to use. Design wise, the Ultracar we see in DoA looks more like Speed Buggy than a Transformer.
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>>84268056
Mary is perfectly content to stew her intolerance for her fellow students in quiet isolation. It's only when she got antagonized (or when Ruth otherwise disregards the duties of her job) that she really interacts with others.
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>>84268294
>>84268407
I do love it when /co/ puts more work into writing DoA than Willis does.

I swear, if he just got himself an editor to slap him on the hand whenever he doesn't explain shit well enough, we wouldn't have to have these mock threads every other day
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>>84260926
>>84267165
Just wanted to point out that according to Willis, his literal self-insert in this universe is the creator of both cartoons and a rich recluse.
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>>84265874

Yep
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>>84268823
not even necessarily an editor. he needs to learn how to accept criticism or just acknowledge voices from outside his hugbox.

shitposters aside, not everyone in these threads is blindly hating on willis and the comic. many of us, I'd say, can see a lot of ways to fix it that don't run counter to what he's been doing or how he's been presenting the characters.

hell, even carla's conflict with mary, as several anons said, would have been more believable and explainable if carla started skating about and antagonizing mary AFTER mary made a comment about her.
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>>84267165

This kinda mirrors Walky's relationship with Allspark
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>>84262475
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V2sBURgUBI
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>>84269300

How so?
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>>84269498

He's often butting heads there for dumb shit. Like the tint of red on an Optimus Prime toy
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>>84269575

Well these days he just tends to stick people on ignore.
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>>84267443
He bitched about it like five times over on Shortpacked! when it got cancelled
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>>84260926
I hope Carla just eats a bullet one day. What a dumb fucking cunt.
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>>84267165

Hah. This one made me laugh because the last thread on /co/ I visited was one complaining about how BTAS was the best and kids cartoons now are all dumb and wacky and why no one makes smart shows anymore.

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