http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/2016/06/animation-expansion.html
Meanwhile, Disney is merging their TV units and are moving into preschool shows only after 2017; Your views on this.
I keep saying, one of the six major studios will probably close its doors within 5 years.
>>84117353
Fucking b8. Fuck off op
>>84117373
It's just the TV unit, were still getting features through WAG (Warner Animation Gild).
>>84117378
It's not b8, it's fact.
It means no more TTG.
>Here's how the animation business is going here in the City of the Angels:
>A Disney lawyer explains to me how the Mouse's TV animation division is bursting at the seams and needs to find smaller studios around town to sub-contract a number of its shows. "We just don't have the room to do all of them."
>I am skeptical about this (it's a Disney corporate lawyer, after all) until TAG members at Disney tell me that the television animation division is adding another three floors of work space to its already sizable presence at Burbank Media Center North. And independent studios in Glendale and Hollywood hire extra staff to do the new Disney shows they've taken on. ...
>I visit Warner Bros. Animation at the Warner Ranch. I note that there are a lot of empty offices and cubes in one of the buildings WBA occupies on the lot. A supervisor tells me:
>Management's moving a lot of people around. They'll be needing more space here, so units are going to the Pinnacle Building on Alameda. I don't know what they plan to do with the cartoonists they have at Burbank Studios [the old NBC lot, also on Alameda.].
>Oh yeah. The studio has lost some story artists, people they couldn't afford to lose. But the employees didn't like the way the studio was treating them, so they landed other jobs and left. They usually don't do things like that, but there's a lot of jobs at other places. Upper management has put out the word, We'll need to be nicer to artists." ...
>Meantime, DreamWorks Animation TV continues to employ artists, timers, designers and writers as the company fulfills its Netflix contracts. And the Animation Guild keeps taking in new members and re-activating old ones. And industry vets were complaining about not finding much work four years ago are now turning down jobs.
>As one free-lancer recently told me: I've had three days off since the first of the year."
OP is a faggot.
>>84117353
When you're trying to bait people into believing something, don't post a link disproving what you're saying.
>>84117353
>Warner Bros is shutting down their TV unit
Wait, are we talking about Cartoon Network?
This can't be serious.
>>84117395
Heres what is going on.
Disney is merging their TV units to save money.
Warners is laying off staff in it's TV unit due to bomb after bomb.
DC DTV staff is now at DreamWorks doing that new Voltron show, Timm is the only one still at WB.
Nothing about features.
>>84117413
Seek help.
>>84117452
No, were talking about Warner Television Animation, the guys behind TTG and those DC, Tom & Jerry and Scooby Doo DTVs.
>citation needed
>>84117510
Ah, okay, thanks.
Funny how absolutely no one else is reporting this.
Surely they're going to farm TTG over to Cartoon Network or something, right? It's not possible that we're actually free of it.
>>84117487
But why you lying tho?
>>84117619
Thats what I'm expecting.
>>84117669
I'm not, TAG does not lie.
>>84117704
>TAG does not lie
It's the internet, everyone lies.
>>84117373
It's gotta be Sony/Paramount. No way they make it past 2020
>>84117722
No, sites like TAG do not.
>>84117704
Humor me then OP.
Cite another source for this news.
>>84117373
Probably Paramount. They've been done shit awful for the past few years. Viacom was even considering selling half of their stake.
>>84117725
>It's gotta be Sony/Paramount. No way they make it past 2020
Sony, maybe. Paramount? Nah. Paramount's been attached to all the Marvel capeshit movies since Iron Man. I think they'll last a while.
>>84117762
The last one they were attached to was IM3. They're basically kept alive by the Transformers franchise at this point. Everything else has been bombing for them
It will be Sony, is everybody already forgetting those incompetent emails and pitches for shitty movies?
>>84117734
It's just that there's no information to really confirm this story.
>Justice League Action
>A new slate of XD shows coming next year
I call bullshit.
>>84117965
Again, their output in lowering/using things already complete, they also should have some Scooby Doo, Tom & Jerry and some DC DTVs left.
>
>Oh yeah. The studio has lost some story artists, people they couldn't afford to lose. But the employees didn't like the way the studio was treating them, so they landed other jobs and left. They usually don't do things like that, but there's a lot of jobs at other places. Upper management has put out the word, We'll need to be nicer to artists."
Former WB artist here. They're not shutting down. They treat their artists like shit and are the lowest paying studio behind Disney, Nick, CN, and Dreamworks and there's enough work WB artists are leaving for greener pastures.
WB shot themselves in the foot.
>>84118459
Fucking hell, I didn't think any major tv animation studio paid lower than CN.
>>84117582
Other than Cartoonbrew no other news site cares about this stuff.
Reminder that TAG were the first ones to say that Uncle Grandpa was canceled and that Genndy and Faust were getting thrown off their projects at Sony.
>>84118459
Do you know anything about Timm?. Bruce leave WB Animation and the whole studio gets destroyed
>>84118624
>UG cancelled
Wait wasnt it just approved for season 5?
>>84118645
No, this is what happened. The UG team had about X number of episodes ready for a future season. CN decided to redefine 'season' to mean X/2 episodes and announced "renewing for 2 more seasons" while directly telling the UG staff that no more episodes would be ordered.
This is a new form of lying to the press.
>>84118624
>and that Genndy and Faust were getting thrown off their projects at Sony.
You are not talking about fucking Samurai Jack aren't you?
>>84118687
Wow way to be even shittier than usual CN. At least other networks have the balls to come out and say a show is cancelled
>>84118634
They know not to piss him off.
>>84117487
>DC DTV staff is now at DreamWorks doing that new Voltron show
This is good news dreamworks has a nice thing going for them with most of there shows
>>84117510
Most of those are pretty good and have nice animation but they go under the radar.
I swear to god if they kill the Scooby Doo animated movies i'll flip the pool.
>>84118826
DID YOU SEE THE POOL? THEY FLIPPED THE BITCH!
>>84118711
Samurai Jack is not at Sony, you mongoloid.
>>84118718
Fx did something similar to Archer. Because the ratings consistently declined in the previous season, instead of outright canceling Archer Fx limited their losses by saying "RENEWED FOR 3 MORE SEASONS" while cutting seasons from being 12 eps to 8. That, and shitcanning Reed's other series (Cassius & Clay).
The difference here is that CN never liked UG and only ran it for contractual reasons (two network heads ago CN held a "Cartoonstitute" contest where the two top entries got their own show: the other one was Regular Show) until they could find an excuse to kill it. Archer's on thin ice because its target demographic is invisible to Nielsen (Nielsen still doesn't acknowledge any form of watching that isn't live, and that includes DVRs). At this point Floyd County should move the show to Netflix where ratings don't mean shit and the content doesn't have to be censored (e.g. no more choking Cheryl because that's illegal in the UK).
>>84118711
Nope. Genndy's Popeye and Faust's Medusa.
>>84118895
>(e.g. no more choking Cheryl because that's illegal in the UK).
Brexit my fucking shows UK. Its bad enough shows have to follow the ass backwards rating systems in the US.
>>84118718
Also in case it's not blatantly obvious, any show on CN that does not move licensed merchandise is doomed because that's the only thing WB cares about. That's the reason TTG got canceled. Worse, it's the reason Young Justice got canceled at a time when its ratings were excellent AND it was the top selling TV show in all categories on iTunes. As soon as the WB suits found out YJ's primary demographic were teenage girls, they said "teen girls don't buy action figures, SHUT IT DOWN" and when the news leaked everyone went birdshit.
>>84118895
So many people need to take their shit to Netflix. I swear archer would be a boon for them.
>>84118931
>Brexit my fucking shows UK
This wasn't the UK following EU mandate, this is nuBritain at its worst where spanking is no longer legal in porn.
We should have seen the writing on the wall with "Teenage Hero Mutant Turtles" and cut our losses over there a decade ago.
>>84118896
>Genndy's Popeye and Faust's Medusa.
okay, thanks. But now I am interested.
>>84118988
>This wasn't the UK following EU mandate
Yeah that was just a shitty joke about the brexit on my part
>nuBritain at its worst where spanking is no longer legal in porn.
Yeah I have no idea how any country could be more puritanical than the US about sex but the UK pulled it off. At least they haven't banned flat chested girls from porn like Australia.
>>84118980
It really would be. The metrics are much more direct and people would shit themselves at getting an entire season of it. Probably the "3" season renewal was Fx deciding it was worth not losing the show to another network, but I sorely doubt Floyd County will make another series for Fx after what happened with C&C.
Oh fuck. That explains the shitty treatment of Bunnicula and why TTG hasn't yet been renewed for a fourth season. No big loss though. I enjoyed both but won't mind them ending. Especially TTG, it's past ten episodes or so haven't been as good.
>>84118953
>n TTG got canceled.
Wait, it did?
>>84119019
>how any country could be more puritanical than the US about sex but the UK pulled it off
Where do you think the Puritans came from, they were the Cromwell roundheads who executed a king and left the country when the rest of Britain couldn't stand them any longer. They settled in the Netherlands but left because their children where starting to speak Dutch and ask why they had giant sticks up their asses unlike the Dutch.
>>84118953
Wait, Does this means Steven Universe is getting cancelled too (it got the seasons division treatment too, after all), or that it is getting action figures?
>>84119044
I meant Teen Titans, not TTG. The ratings were acceptable but no one was buying the figures/shirts/comic books in WB's eyes.
That, and Stu making all the returning shows have to pitch to him like they were new ones even though TT only planned one more season.
>>84119063
It's not getting cancelled. The merch thing seems to be more of a WB thing than a CN thing
I'm still waiting for the rise of great animation on Netflix. They've been right on the edge for years now, and that voltron show is a good sign. Buy up some more old rights or get some adult,swim-type stuff in production.
Also buy up fucking avatar already, I'm sick of it whack-a-mole'ing off and on, I'm sure nickolodeon is sick of it.
>>84119098
but CN belong to WB. Don' they have the power to pull the plug on any show.
>>84119063
SU merch is actually selling pretty well now that they have finally fucking made it.
>>84119063
Sugar & Co. don't know from what I hear. They have better chances because the show trends heavily among Hot Topic shitheads. Again, UG was a show CN was required to produce but they held off on doing it for 3 years (attempting to convince Pete Browngarten that Secret Fort Mount Awesome fulfilled his contract when he wanted to make UG).
I doubt SU will be canceled until at least a season into the future, probably two.
>>84119098
>The merch thing seems to be more of a WB thing than a CN thing
That's exactly the point. CN's got enough autonomy to greenlight a show but ultimately WB decides whether it stays on the air or not. It's probably why they've had a revolving door of program directors over the last decade, they get annoyed and leave. For all the hate we dumped on Stuart, at least he had the balls to tell WB he wasn't pleased with becoming their DCAU network and having to pay them licensing fees to do it.
>>84119131
What are they? Is it just clothes?
>>84119126
I thought CN was owned by Turner. Unless, Turner is owned by WB?
>>84119158
Cheeseburger backpack, clothes, and that cell phone game.
>>84119169
Turner is a subsidiary of WB
>>84119115
>Also buy up fucking avatar already, I'm sick of it whack-a-mole'ing off and on, I'm sure nickolodeon is sick of it.
It's the most profitable property Nick owns that doesn't involve talking sponges, even if they don't act like it. It would require either an astronomical sum to unload it or a straight network buyout.
>>84119193
> I forgot Nick owns TMNT now
Okay, second most profitable.
>>84119158
Pop figs, backpacks (both print and novelty cheeseburger), clothes, monopoly, phone cases, coffee mugs, and shit like that.
I just wish they would make some fucking action figures since they WOULD sell. What can you do though? WB doesnt think that kids will buy toys of female characters.
>>84119180
>Cheeseburger backpack
How could I forget that? Did it actually sell well?
>that cell phone game
PC release when?
The long story short of this is that CN is run by WB, and WB requires Sony to exist in order to not be the most inept movie studio in America. Remember that WB was so broke they almost went out of business until DC bought them. They're THAT stupid.
What about Mike Tyson Mysteries?
>>84117353
that's not what the link says at all
>>84119193
I'll take your word for it. I was sure they had shelved it after Korra, and how hard they keep denying people who want series box sets and blu-rays. I never hear anything about the comic, either. I could see them doing a joint thing though, where they'd keep the merchandising and dvd sales and whatever, but make a net show that airs just on Netflix. I have no clue how their relationship is with Netflix now, though, so...
>>84117756
>Probably Paramount. They've been done shit awful for the past few years. Viacom was even considering selling half of their stake.
It's hilarious that the upcoming Star Trek tv series can't exist in the movie continuity because when Viacom split, ST the TV series and ST the movie property went to different companies. Desi and Lucy must be spinning in their graves.
>>84119215
>I just wish they would make some fucking action figures since they WOULD sell.
If Hasbro could work out some of their Shell-formers magic to make a Ruby and Saphire figure able to combine to make a decent looking Garnet (and an Eldritch abomination if combined wrong), I am sure it would sell like hotpocket.
>>84118718
>>84118687
The same thing is happening to CN's other 52-episode season cartoons (SU, Clarence, WBB) with the exception of no confirmation of those shows ending
>>84119260
Produced by Adult Swim. I think most of the Adult Swim show are safe from stupid "what the kids need" executive decisions, so I guess we can breath.
Still Mike Tyson's last episode was their first attempt in a 20 minute format, I hope they will keep going for it.
>>84119285
>I was sure they had shelved it after Korra, and how hard they keep denying people who want series box sets and blu-rays
Oh they have, and there won't be future series unless they can find gold star professionals to replace Bryke. The comics are probably selling anemically because Gene Yang fucking sucks and keeps writing the characters like they were in the first season.
> Netflix
It's possible but Nick's in a desperate situation where most of their shows aren't very profitable and they only have 3 strong brands. Handing any of them to another network is risky.
>>84119331
>(SU, Clarence, WBB)
post-Skyler Clarence is indistinguishable from season 1 and will probably get 2 more seasons
WBB is amusing but can't sustain the concept more than 2 more seasons at best. It just can't.
>>84119385
>post-Skyler Clarence is indistinguishable from season 1
How is the new Voice Actor doing?
Also, any chance Skyler come back on producing the show, under the condition he follow a medical treatment?
>>84119352
>most of the Adult Swim show are safe from stupid "what the kids need" executive decisions
regrettably they are subject to even more retarded executive decisions from one man who would love nothing better than live action cringe antihumor shows and treats Toonami like the plant you never water. [as] is no longer the cool place it used to be.
>>84119411
>How is the new Voice Actor doing?
I can't tell him from Skyler.
>>84119411
>any chance Skyler come back
I don't know if Punished Page is welcome in the industry after the twitstorm that painted him as a rapist.
>>84118988
>Teenage Hero Mutant Turtles
What the hell? Are ninjas illegal in the UK or what?
>>84118459
Anything about Tom Ruegger coming back?
>>84119421
The whole fucking point of Adult Swim is cartoon for adult audience.
Can't the guy simply launch a new channel Centred on sitcom with "adult" and "quirky" humor that the stonner will enjoy watching? So he can leave [a.s.] to its intended purpose?
>>84119463
why would he need to
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2219622/combined
>>84119454
>I don't know if Punished Page is welcome in the industry after the twitstorm that painted him as a rapist.
He was never painted as a rapist. Even the person who was aggressed made clear he was suffering from mental issues and put the blame on the Direction who managed a man know to be sick poorly.
>>84119488
7D ended and talk about it going as far back as December of 2014.
Also TMS' demands to avoid another Orange & All Out.
>>84119484
Eureka, an original science fiction show on SyFy, got canceled to make room for wrestling.
Food Network now runs as few cooking shows as they can possibly manage.
Ever since MTV stopped airing music videos, cable network programmers have thrown their formats under the bus.
>>84119461
It's a too violent word to let kids read it.
>>84119514
And let's not talk of the total wreckage that is TLC.
>>84119547
I don't have cable tv. Why is it a total wreckage?
>>84119254
Well technically WB was bought by Kinney National, who just happened to own DC separately until Warner Communications was formed.
Stick a blade in your throat, Famibortion.
>>84119577
It used to be about learning, now it's about trash.
>>84119586
He did not make this topic.
>>84119224
Just get emulator nigga
>>84119684
That's just ridiculous.
>>84119115
After what happened to Doug, Nick will never sell a show to another network ever again
>>84119577
>Why is it a total wreckage?
It stopped being the learning channel and became the reality show channel
>>84119411
He's different but the difference is negligable, I bet many kids haven't noticed
Nefcy and Springer are probably close to freaking out right now
>>84119738
What happened to Doug? I know Disney bought them, did it just blow up after that?
>>84117725
Marvel just gave them a lifeline. I am sure that will help Sony postpone its death by 5 more years
>>84117373
Paramount because the transformers movie are keeping them on life support and Sony because they can't cohesively make a single fucking thing right without fucking it up
>>84120595
Paramount also has Transformers and its coming Cinematic Universe.
It might sound horrible, but each of the TF movies have been grossing an abnormal amount of money. It help that Michael Bay always stays within Budget.
So does this mean no more DC animated movies?
>>84120714
Probably the quality been going to shit for years now
>>84117353
If they ever do this, that would be the worse business decision they have ever done as a company, ever, worse than giving a blank check to a director that doesn't know what he's doing.
Animation is key for WB.
They shouldn't have cancelled young justice over toys not selling and to make space for batman CGI and ttg.
>>84117373
Good chance it's paramount.
The Transformer movies are the only really profitable endeavors for them. (The Star Trek reboot was supposed to be the next big thing, but its only done meh sales)
I'm more concerned because they hold the Godfather elements.
>>84120502
Doug had strong ratings at first and Disney even released a theatrical movie that bombed, but eventually the popularity petered out and Disney axed Doug because of the movie.
>>84120914
This.
IMO Young Justice really could have been a beginning of a new DC animated universe.
It should have gotten several more seasons and spinoffs.
I hate all you fuckers. Even Reddit agrees TTG was a good show, and they have sticks up their asses. You fucking nostalgia MrEnterfags are literally fucking manchildren. It's funny, get over it.
>>84120606
What was the last good big budget movie from Sony?
Casino Royale?
>>84119115
I would literally give 2 billion dollars just to own the Avatar IP
I don't care that much about Last Airbender I just want Legend of Korra so I can finally retcon this shithole from existence and start all fucking over again
>>84121035
>I'm more concerned because they hold the Godfather elements.
The restoration they did back in 08 was 4k. It's safe. (35mm film basically maxes out at 4k)
>>84121150
Even the show makes fun of how bad ttg is.
![[PERIDOT INTENSIFIES].gif](https://i.imgur.com/wHggeXE.gif "[PERIDOT INTENSIFIES].gif")
>>84121150
>>84121243
>faggot universe
>>84121223
Because they know how to laugh at themselves. It was a failed venture from the start. If Young Justice never got cancelled, half the people bitching about this show, wouldn't be bitching about this show. If it wasn't based on Teen Titans, there'd be even less haters. It's a good show, but you fuckers don't want to see it.
>>84121197
I liked that episode. I wanna go to iHop now.
>>84121395
Face it, anon, it's bad.
>>84121414
Whatever helps you sleep at night bud.
>>84121395
Even if it wasn't teen titans
I'd still not like it anon
Also
>even reddit agrees
Maybe you should go back there anon
>>84121395
The show is bad anon. It's basically. Let's take the Teen Titan and apply to them all of the most common tropes and unoriginal ideas ever. Badly.
The only reason you might like it is if you have never watched anything else.
>>84121395
>defends TTG
>uses the most uncreative SU mock name one could think of
Ebin
>>84121504
90% of the people who post on 4chan at least go on Reddit.
>I'd still not like it
ok. I'm not here to change your mind.
>>84121574
>likes a show that's literally feminist propaganda
>hates on TTG
>>84119260
>>84119352
Isn't it animated by Warner though?
>>84121759
Created by Warner Bros:Animation. Don't know if they are the ones actually making it.
>>84121759
Produced by Warner Bros. Animation for Adult Swim.
>>84121733
What? Artemis was a cool character.
>>84120643
>but each of the TF movies have been grossing an abnormal amount of money.
Overseas, where they receive less of the profits.
Domestic sells are getting lower and lower with each film. Paramount even lied about the amount Transformers 4 got for it's opening weekend just for them to claim they got the first $100 million opening of the year.
>>84121150
>it's funny
I've never laughed once at a TTG episode, and I've seen about 3.
>>84118988
>spanking is no longer legal in porn.
It was never, ever legal until 2012. Ironically, it's now legal, but only because a guy who made fisting videos decided to fight his obscenity charge. So the case law makes it legal, because where there's informed consent it's basically not... well, I was going to say "not hurting anybody", but you know what I mean here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Peacock
>>84121733
How is TTG any good when they throw in random pop culture references to get older people to like the show?
>>84121901
I'm talking about SU, YJ was a good show.
>>84122053
>YJ was a good show
>>84122053
>YJ was a good show.
No, it really really wasn't.
>>84121759
Dongwoo.
>>84120870
They still have WAG for features.
>>84118895
>The difference here is that CN never liked UG and only ran it for contractual reasons (two network heads ago CN held a "Cartoonstitute" contest where the two top entries got their own show: the other one was Regular Show) until they could find an excuse to kill it.
Secret Mountain Force Awesome was the show that came out of that, dude. Don't you remember? CN tried to do that because they didn't think Uncle Grandpa was marketable enough.
>>84121850
It'd be silly for WB Animation to close now because they only just started hyping up JLA, they have JL Dark in production, a second season of Vixen, DC Superhero Girls is a runaway hit with a movie and I think TV series coming soon, and quite a few other shows in production at the moment.
>>84122053
Ohh SU is really good.
>>84122314
Again, already done or are very far into production.
Also Netflix.
>>84117395
What if... what if WB sells DC to Disney?
>>84122821
Not going to happen, if anything it will be Disney buying Time Warner as a whole.
>>84122962
Fox is more likely than Disney to do such a thing. They already made an offer once before.
>>84122314
lol DC girls a runaway hit, WB shill.
>>84117828
The marvel deal may have saved them at least for now.
>>84122962
>>84123501
Illegal
Oh jeez.
>>84124018
You know companies don't give a shit about this right ?
>>84122128
Stupid weeb go back to /a/
>>84119547
>reality show about fat family
>reality show about midget family
>reality show about sister wives of some mormon
>reality show about amish trading their kids off
>reality show about fat girls getting married
>>84126405
>>>/Reddit/ and stay there.
>>84123501
No, Fox is making money.
>>84117353
>Warner Bros is shutting down their TV unit
Literally nowhere in the article does it say anything remotely resembling that.
>>84126940
Oh god, I didn't think it could get worst, but it did.
>>84128805
Yes it does, read OP's link.
>>84128865
Please point out the specific part(s) where it says anything like what OP is claiming.
