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Post Crisis Superman and the old numeration are back, but Lex Luthor is the only reason you need to read this issue
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>>83594565
it is so good.
Here's our hero
hat...
That was not what I expected.
I'm gonna need a couple of hours to process it.
Just know this, it was good.
>>83594643
>Path of Doom
So I'm guessing Doomsday shows up
>>83594712
this seems too familiar.
>>83594696
He's literally on the cover
>>83594682
Thank you based Lex. You're the hero we all need.
The end.
Lot of things happened in this issue, I had no faith in Jurgens, but this was good so I'm following at least this first arc
>>83594850
Oh boy.
Supes really started it this time. Really not the best way to make your comeback....
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW SHIT NIGGA THE MAN HIMSELF IS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>has found nothing dirty on Lex Luthor despite trying
>knows Luthor saved the world from villains when there were no heroes around to do so
>knows Luthor was a Justice League member who did not do anything dirty on the League
>attacks him anyways
This is a hate-filled Superman, and I am absolutely disgusted.reposting from other story-time
bumping for others.
I like that /co/ is so hype for this that there's two storytimes active at once.
>>83595031
Superman vs. Luthor is self-justifying.
>>83595031
>has found nothing dirty on Lex Luthor despite trying
He must not've been trying very hard, considering if I recall correctly, Lex was complicit in Nu52 Metallo, Brainiac, and Amazo.
GET HYPE, NIGGAS!
>>83595059
>hype for Jurgens
/co/ will never learn
>>83595100
>implying characterfags care about writers
>Superman Family now consists of 10 releases per month (at least once at the various spin-offs start coming out) including appearances in team/team-up books
This is almost overload.Not that I'm complaining HE'S BACK BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>83595114
>implying content isn't most important
>implying ANY writers are ever reliable
GTFO, fanboy.
>>83595100
>this the kinda nigga reads Jason Aaron comics
>this the kinda nigga still thinks Alan Moore is good
>this the kinda nigga that read Wonder Woman Earth One
>>83594758
I'm crying, he's back, he's really back
>>83595163
I thought /co/ and WWfags love WW Earth One? Or it's usual Morrisonfaggotry?
>>83595149
>>83595163
These guys get it. You subject yourself to more garbage than anything when you "follow writers". Being a "fan" is ALWAYS a bad idea.
Holy shit. This is the best Rebirth issue yet. By far. Granted I haven't read rest of todays releases, I'll get on it. Just had to come by and say that I love this issue.
so hype gonna read this shit twice lol ill literally just read both storytimes lol
>>83594565
BAMP NIGGAS
Last Week was Superman, Batman, Green Lantern(s), and SJW Arrow, right?
And this week is Action Comics (ongoing), Detective Comics (ongoing), Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Flash, and... is that it?
>>83595208
I also did and it's for sure the best first issue of Rebirth for now.
I laughed and when I noticed that the two OPs started 20 seconds from each other
>>83595281
Yep.
>>83594891
>A cyborg. A clone
Real nice Dan, I saw what you did there.
>>83595293
GTFO
>>83595293
>post-crisis Supes is classic Supes
No.
>>83594944
>>83594944
>I had no faith in Jurgens,
He's a solid writer when he's on Superman. Don't go expecting the next classic Superman story or anything but he's perfectly serviceable
>>83594850
Supes is such an asshole.
>>83595191
>Crisis on Two Threads
>>83595031
It's Lex Fucking Luthor you cunt. This Superman has seen every bad thing he ever did. His distrust is completely justified
>>83595343
lol
>people lose their shit over post crisis supes being an asshole and the fake Clark Kent appearing.
I dont get it. Green Arrow was miles better than this.
Action Comics 957 (2016) (Webrip) (The Last Kryptonian-DCP)
http://www29.zippyshare.com/v/BeeE503i/file.html
>>83595362
It's a different Lex Luthor. And he hasn't seen every bad thing he's ever done. He's seen none of it. Which is why Lois urged caution, but he didn't listen.
>>83595377
It's mostly post-crisis fags happy that the "real" Superman is back. And I agree with you on GA being better. That's the best I've read sof ar of Rebirth. But I have to get to the rest of this week's titles.
>>83595362
>every bad thing he ever did
He has literally done nothing wrong and Pre-Flashpoint Superman knows that. And yet he still attacked the guy in public out of paranoia because he can't accept that this is a different Lex.
Only excusing this is if there's mind control going on.
>>83595377
Is there anyone claiming Green Arrow wasn't the best one?*
*pending the storytiming of Flash and Aquaman at least
>/co/ reading Superman together
FUCK I almost forgot was this felkt like. FFS it's been like what? 5 years since we made a habit of this? And like 6 since anyone cared since that was Grounded at the end there? All the New 52 Superman storytimes have been like ghost towns in comparison to this except for the Morrison ones, and even then those were a totally different vibe. We spent more time in those either Morrison circle-jerking or talking about hypercrisis faggotry.
>>83595426
I miss when hypercrisis threads had new material. It's just reposts now.
>>83595377
I love Post-Crisis Superman probably the best, but I have to agree: he's being all sorts of judgmental.
Then again, I didn't keep up with Nu52 Superman at all, so I don't know if Luthor really does deserve that level of suspicion. Likely he does, because most cape stories come down to "punch the bad guy [even if bad guy hasn't done bad yet]".
>>83595405
>He has literally done nothing wrong
Quit memeing already goddamn.
>>83595377
SJW Arrow was actually shit.
>>83595389
>It's a different Lex Luthor
Is it really though? He is the same Luthor that Post crisis Superman knows just with key moments in time removed. And he did dirty shit during New 52 anyway
>>83595444
Rebirth sparked tons of new stuff.
>>83595426
The end of Morrison's Action Comics was GOAT. This doesn't come close.
>>83595457
For all pre-flashpoint Supes knows he hasn't. Only us as the readers know his sins
>>83595474
Kill yourself.
>>83595477
This isn't even about quality, man. It's just that we haven't really had these kinds of Superman threads is YEARS.
>>83595426
characterfags are disgusting
>>83595475
>He is the same Luthor that Post crisis Superman knows just with key moments in time removed. And he did dirty shit during New 52 anyway
And Post-Crisis SUperman does not know of any fo that stuff.
>>83595452
>>83595405
>>83595389
>so I don't know if Luthor really does deserve that level of suspicion
And I always thought it was dumb that Lex became president. Turns out people can't spot a cunt when he's right in front of them
>>83595494
I was talking about the threads. The thread with everyone saying their name backwards was hype as hell.
>>83595457
I'm not memeing, it's the truth. This Luthor so far is a mostly good person. And pFP Superman just goes and attacks him for no reason. Why?
>>83595484
He was literally in a Super prison at the start of the New 52
>>83595512
Placing your hand on a shield is attacking, now?
>>83595197
Following writers doesn't mean blindly eating up any shit they put out but the creators are a far better indication of quality than the characters.
>>83595525
Which we don't know how he got there (unless it was that action comics story by Daniels and Diggle in which case he wasn't that bad in it) and he redeemed himself from it. Plus even Lois told him not to treat him with such suspicion since they don't know what he's truly like in this world.
>>83595330
Post-Crisis Superman and pre-Crisis Superman are ultimately the same character. It was really their continuity that got rebooted.
That's the biggest different between Crisis On Infinite Earths and New 52. Crisis was a new continuity, New 52 was new versions of EVERYTHING (except Batman and Green Lantern since those were the biggest sellers DC had at the time, so they were afraid to kill those golden geese but didn't mind fucking ruining everything else).
>>83595525
I love how crazy that concept was.
>If you're so smart then why don't you design a prison even you can't escape?
>I'm gonna prove you wrong superfaggot. Watch this I don't ever getting out.
>>83595540
It's not. But he claims that Luthor attacked him because Luthor has the seense to have saftey precautions? Seems like he needed an excuse to fight Luthor due to his hate.
>>83595512
This is Pre-52 Superman, they guy that was never wrong about anything.
If he decides to go against Luthor he si right.
>>83595540
It is literally rape
>>83595540
He should keep his hands to himself
>>83595511
Yeah, but again very different vibe. There was more or less no difference between Morrison AC storytimes and the hypercrisis threads that were all over the board at the time.
>>83595577
The last time he inspired anyone was when he died.
>>83595512
He isnt fucl you and fuck johns
>>83594902
He is watching a wall of different monitors all playing different things.
Just like Ozymandias
>>83595550
Not really. Most characters are either usually not shit or usually shit. EVERY writer is usually shit.
>People defending Lex.
>in 2016
this is the same guy who sits on the throne of Apokalips. and has a custom motherbox that says his name.
>>83595601
Fuck, what was that line from again?
>>83595614
How is he gonna be king of Apokalips and Superman at the same time.
Is one of those only a part time gig?
>>83595627
Johns butchering characters as usual
>>83595627
Infinite Crisis.
Shit event but that line was great. Not that I agree with it but asshole Batman is best Batman.
>>83595614
Yeah, he's pretty great, m8.
>>83595614
at least he actually defended the planet while this Superman was hiding in the shadows during the events of Forever Evil and other disasters
>>83595603
Pre-Flashpoint Superman checked, why are you doubting him if you trust his judgement so much? Lex did nothing wrong and Clark went full bitch mode here
>>83595614
that is just funny not harmful
>>83595614
Exactly. Lex is great guy, I'm glad you agree
>America hasn't even woken up yet
>TWO consecutive Superman storytimes already have hundreds of posts EACH
He's back.
>>83595655
That really ruined Superman for me. What kind of hero stays out of cataclysmic events when they could be saving lives? Great power, great responsibility and all that jazz. Come on Clark.
The wrong Superman died.
>>83595655
The League had it handled.
Canonically, he's been stopping offscreen disasters that the other Supes was too busy to get to while staying unseen.
>>83594834
BASED
FUCKING
CLARK
>>83595697
This is a Lex Luthor thread pal, and yes he's back from Apokalips, I hope he stays a while.
Metropolis needs him.
>>83595702
Blame editorial.
>>83595704
>>The League had it handled.
The League were reportedly dead at that time. They had nothing handled. Yet, he still did not help.
>>83595704
The League as far as anyone knew were MIA. Thank God for Luthor or Prime Earth would've been fucked.
>>83595704
But the villains saved the day in Forever Evil.
>>83595702
This is the main reason why I won't accept this as pre-Flashpoint Superman. It literally makes no sense for him to sit out shit that huge. They are basically ignoring his entire character to suggest he would do that.
Hello, lowly intellectually inferior peons, what's going on in this th-
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>>83594850
>BvS 2: EeKEKtrik Boogaloo
Man post Crisis Superman and Lois must have been shit investigative journalists. How hard would it have been for either one to find out that Lex was torturing Nu52 Superman? Or that Awful hybrid arc where he infected Superman and then attacked him in front of people ?
>>83595702
>>83595746
Literally NOTHING in New 52 makes any sense.
>>83595611
That's fucking retarded. I bet you only read capeshit.
>>83595779
They are being written out of character and then sold to idiots as the real deal who will eat it up just because DC says it's the real Superman who is back. This is Grounded-tier shit.
>>83595738
Right, so, they had it handled. Or for all we know, Superbeard was, in fact, out there recapturing minor villains at too-fast-to-see speed offscreen the entire time. After all, the story suggested EVERY city was being overrun by rogues, but the only cities we ACTUALLY saw were...what, Metropolis, Gotham, and Central? That leaves several for Superbeard to be fighting crime in.
The bigger problem is how overblown the amount of destruction during Forever Evil was, compared to the complete lack of focus on rebuilding once it was over.
It seems more like, in retrospect, the League wasn't missing that long and the villains didn't wreck shit that bad, after all.
>>83595735
It's best not to think about this shit or you will question why Superman didn't jump in and save the day a hundred other times
>>83595806
So it's out of character for Superman to attack Lex for doing nothing wrong even tough he has done plenty wrong?
>>83595785
And rebirth is making it worse.
>so New 52 is fucked right?
>well it's actually post crisis continuity with 10 years removed
>Go ahead and try to make it make sense I fucking dare you
>Johns please calm down I'm just an intern.
>>83595827
>even tough he has done plenty wrong?
this part isn't true
>>83595787
Not really a cape reader, no.
>>83595827
plenty wrong that he doesn't know of
he is attaccking an innocent man because "the one we knew was an asshole"
if any other hero did this you would call him an asshole but since this is Superman it's fine as usual
>>83595815
There's no real reason. They could have just had his family get here during DCYou like Parallax Hal and found some bullshit to explain the baby aging quickly.
>>83595807
Well the Moon got moved. I Think Superman would be the guy to check that out.
>>83595806
It's not perfect, but it's an improvement.
That's kind of Rebirth in a nutshell.
>>83595832
It's pre-New 52 with the continuity rewritten by Manhattan. So, no, it's not "post crisis continuity". Same UNIVERSE, different continuity.
>>83595894
THIS.
As opposed to how it was before where New 52 was supposed to be a completely new multiverse.
>>83595872
>but it's an improvement
It's really not. Morrison, Snyder, Johns, and Pak (when not in a crossover) all did better work.
>>83595915
Sure thing, homo.
>>83595894
New 52 was just pre New 52 continuity rewritten by Pandora and her meeting of three timelines.
Hi
Very little has changed besides throwing another factor into the mix.
>>83595872
I don't see it as an improvement. It's still a bad status quo that needs to be repaired by competent writers in the long run. We have a Superman who has let people die on his watch without attempting to help in major disasters. He also has no connections to the universe at all or any of the heroes in it. This is trash.
>That's kind of Rebirth in a nutshell.
And this isn't true either. Even GL doesn't seem to be as big of a mess with its status quo and it's probably the next worst franchise as far as Rebirth ongoings go.
>>83595938
*Merging not meeting
>>83595938
It was made very clear that it was a new universe/multiverse. Now that's been retconned away.
>>83595915
Johns didn't even come close to being as good as his own pre-Flashpoint run on Action, Snyder was fucking filler, and Pak might as well have been writing Conner.
>>83595838
It actually is though. Superman doesn't know of course but this Luthor is still the same old Luthor. A liar, a schemer and a petty murderer and this was all shown in the New 52
>>83595952
>He also has no connections to the universe at all or any of the heroes in it.
But that's only because everyone was made to forget everything. Whether or not everyone suddenly remembers like Barry did with Wally or not has yet to be seen.
>>83595859
>if any other hero did this you would call him an asshole but since this is Superman it's fine as usual
Putting words in mouth there a bit buddy
>>83595975
THIS.
Johns' Action Comics was a CLASSIC. His New 52 Superman was just "less shit than everyone else's except Morrison's".
>>83595999
Barry only got the new 52 version of history in his memory, he didn't get the old version (at least in the Rebirth special, I haven't read Flash Rebirth 2.0 yet so maybe he'll get the pre-Flashpoint stuff too). There won't be a set of new 52 memories attached to pre-Flashpoint Superman for anyone to regain.
>>83595655
Yeah, It's a really good question as to what the hell was Pre-Nu52 Superman was doing during the events of Forever Evil? It really does not seem in character for him to just sit back and do nothing. With the Justice League being apparently dead, there's no way he'd do nothing at all.
I'd like to at least think he was off world fighting some sort of alien menace. They could've at least just say Mr.Mxy came in and was fucking around with him during that time if they wanna get lazy with it...
>>83595565
Lobdell is a real guilty pleasure for me.
>>83594878
But Superman did attack him first
Is supes blinded by his rage or did the artist fuck up the flow of the action
Why they can no longer write Superman in a decent way? WHY?
The real Superman would have given an opportunity for Lex to be a hero, not trusting him of course, but without going to him play the bully for no reason.
When Lex would fuck everything to hell, Clark would wear the costume and save the day.
This story is so...disappointing.
>>83596078
I think the blinded by rahe angle is pretty clear.
Hey remember when Lex was a businessman who defended against Superman with his intellect by staying ahead and using the system against him instead of literally trading punches like just another superpowered asshole?
What happened to those days?
>>83595562
No they are not. Quit memeing and read a damn book.
>>83596111
The 90's.
>>83594944
There was no need to provoke Superman. I would rather see Luthor manages Doomsday alone, for this first issue.
God damn those boots are fucking horrible, just make them red for fuck sakes
>>83595862
Post-Crisis Supes sometimes wasn't strong enough to push a moon on his own, he'd need help from WW and J'onn.
>>83596083
Lex a hero ? FUCK OFF LOSER
>>83596148
>. I would rather see Luthor Die.
>>83594834
I'm guessing the cape Lex is wearing is New 52 Superman's Cape?
DAMNIT FUCKING DAMNIT, IT'S LIKE FUCKING GREEN ARROW ALL OVER AGAIN. I WAS EXPECTING A MEH TIER MEDIOCRE STORY AND I GOT SOMETHING I ACTUALLY WANT TO FOLLOW. IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR GUYS.
>>83596211
Because Batman gets good writers and good in continuity runs, Batfags hate that. They're jealous that in 10 years timeframe Superman only got 2 good runs and rest was utter horseshit or pure mediocrity.
>>83596196
Superman would intervene to save him and together they would defeat Doomsday, without unworthy spectacle. Obviously they hate each other, but would come to a truce to allow the existence of two Superman. It would have been a better way to introduce the thing.
>>83596211
The Damifag is shitposting here to support Jon and Supersons because Damian is in that. They don't actually care about Superman.
>>83596252
Just old guys like Batman:
>>83596211
>bringing up Batfags out of nowhere
Autism
>>83594700
NOT THE BEARD
GOD WHY
THE BEARD WAS INNOCENT
>>83594712
>Doesn't say "This looks like a job for Superman"
Whatever!
>>83594944
Nice outfit, Doomsday. Congrats on the new job, I guess? (Is he working for HYDRA now?)
>>83596153
YES please.
>>83596083
>The real Superman would have given an opportunity for Lex to be a hero, not trusting him of course, but without going to him play the bully for no reason.
At the very least, pre-Flashpoint Superman should have remembered that going after Luthor publicly without evidence of wrongdoing is always a bad idea. Instead, he charges right in there without evidence, a plan, or any kind of forethought. It's just bad writing.
It would have been much better if he returned just when Doomsday showed up, as soon as he sees that SuperLex can't handle the situation.
>>83596083
The last story of the old universes ended with Lex being given the power of god and then fucking things up.
>>83596379
You don't know what Doomsday looks like do you.
>>83596430
>The last story of the old universes
no there was a shitty Doomsday crossover after that
>>83596418
>It would have been much better if he returned just when Doomsday showed up, as soon as he sees that SuperLex can't handle the situation.
This is exactly what I should have been. It was also a good excuse to force Clark to wear the costume. So easy.
>>83596430
In Pre-Flash time he also became president and eventually went full creazy , but this is not a valid excuse. Clark still believes this is another universe.
>>83596437
Why does he wear the mask. /co/.
>>83596418
>>83596537
>expecting logical plot progression in a book edited by Mike Cotton that isn't Sinestro
I don't know why he's not fired. Literally every book he's on is shit.
Can we please just retire Doomsday?
>>83596379
It's his classic outfit.
>all these Supermen and Clark Kents
Man, what the fuck is going on
I hope young Clark doesn't turn to dust
>>83596731
No. We'll need a bigger, stronger space monster called Deathsday to kill him in order to look tough.
Wasn't Doomsday ripped to shreds by Superman on another plant or something? There shouldn't be any body.
>>83597045
If there are 3 jokers why not 3 Doomsdays
>>83596591
I found Sinesto to be pretty overrated honestly. It was quite boring really.
Jesus, I REALLY need to get caught up on what's been going on in the Superman books these days.
I need to go back to Pak's AC and start there I guess....
>>83597501
why do people keep bumping both threads? Can't we just one thread to discuss this?
>>83597528
All this Rebirth is making DC fans feel [/spoiler]goodabout something for a change.
I'm surprised we don't have 4 storytimes of it.
>>83594682
His shield....Lex does not know that
He carries the symbol of Fallen Superman, not the symbol of superdad.
Why are there two fucking threads about this?
>>83594780
you are very very smart Luthor, you know the truth about him..
>>83594919
what? Luthor has stolen Superman's cape? the symbol of the coat is black ..
Did anyone else feel like this issue was kind of 'meh'?
I don't like Lex Luthor having his own Superman armor, even for what he's doing. Actually I do kind of like it but idk.
Post-Crisis Supes acted like kind of a dick.
Muh Doomsday
>>83597528
It's actually pretty cool that /co/ is hyped enough for Superman to support two storytime threads simultaneously.
>>83596050
Could have been depleted. Wasn't there a mention that his powers were on the fritz, which was why Lois was more worried about him? Add that to him being weaker as well, mentioned in Lois and Clark, and he could well have been basically a normal person during most of nu52's crisis points.
>>83597794
>I don't like Lex Luthor having his own Superman armor, even for what he's doing. Actually I do kind of like it but idk.
I like. I think that four of the five issues dedicated to "Superior Superman" on Metropolis , until, inevitably it fails because of his ego... and SuperDad patrolling the world could be a good start, but here already we begin badly.
>>83597952
Yeah I feel like the idea here is great and actually something new and original for once but the execution leaves a little to be desired for.
>>83597794
>I don't like Lex Luthor having his own Superman armor, even for what he's doing. Actually I do kind of like it but idk.
He technically didn't make it. It was given to him by the people of Apokolips. They mistook him for their messiah when it was obviously meant to be superman.
>>83597997
When was this? I've been out of the loop for a while, jesus.
>>83598012
Darkseid War. Don't know if Jurgens will be referencing it at all or not. Might do so in the Justice League issue he's writing
>>83598012
Justice League: Darkseid Wars. The last issue has them giving him the armor to tie in to this book, but it's funny how the prophecy went on about an alien who was raised by farmers and Lex just went "yep that's me"
>>83598026
>>83598032
Heh, thanks guys.
I've missed a lot of the nu52. I think that's about when I kinda started to get sick of DC, only reading some of the good stuff that actually interested me, like Azz's WW and Morrison's The Multiversity. I'm so glad they're restoring post-Crisis continuity.
I could do with less Superman kinda being a preemptive dick though.
>>83598058
Just be warned, Darkseid War isn't good in my opinion.
>>83595504
Oh no he's a cunt but Post-crisis literally unprovoked-ly attacked him.
>>83594565
I will never get DC's obsession with Doomsday.
>>83596083
This.
He should've done his research with this Earth's Lex too.
>>83598065
Honestly? I believe you.
>>83594579
Variant is better than the standard cover.
>>83598090
The covers are all themed around showing the main character and the supporting cast right now, that's why.
>>83594643
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW SHIT NIGGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>83594643
Tell me you didn't think it was gonna be Supes.
>>83594682
Wasn't he shaved in Rebirth?
>>83594700
This crap about "different worlds"...
Didn't Rebirth make it canon that Superman IS from this world? And that everyone's memories are just fucked up?
>>83594758
BTFO
>>83594834
>>83594878
Who the fuck is back?
>>83594902
What the fuck is going on?
>>83596120
You're a homosexual faggot.
>>83596252
Which runs?
>>83598374
My guess is that somehow New 52 Supes managed to get revived as Clark, whether he has his powers or superman related memories intact are another 5 dollars.
Will read this and all the Superman books from now on. Can't say I'm too impressed though. It kinda just falls in the range of "decent enough to read in storytimes".
>>83598437
They should've used Rebirth as an opportunity to mindwipe the entire universe so that no one remembers that Clark is Superman.
>>83598469
I liked his public identity being known but having it split does give Superman some well needed rest. It's likely now that there's a superman almost identical to the old one and a Clark Kent at the same place and same time people will begin to think they're not the same guy, thus restoring his secret identity.
>>83595512
did you read forever evil? Did you see what Lex was prepared to do to Ted Kord's dad?
Shit was pure evil.
>>83594758
so if he's really the "original" superman, then why doesnt he have the original suit?
>not posting the completely awesome Darwyn Cooke tribute page from the back of the book
>>83594865
>cool!
I love this. this is exactly how a kid would react
>>83598571
Why a Jack Kirby quote for the Darwyn Cooke tribute instead of a Darwyn Cooke quote?
>>83598550
He REALLY should've had the original Superman outfit.
>>83598592
>"I don't wanna see Batman getting fucked in the ass." - Darwyn Cooke
That better?
>>83598550
Trunks are out for the moment
Also for movie synergy and to sell more toys
>>83598592
A Cooke quote would just be the sound of him throwing a glass bottle at marvel.
>>83594700
>See Lex wearing the S
>immediately go up stairs and start heat visioning glass
wtf
>>83598710
He was shaving
>>83598710
That's always been how Clark shaves, dude. Obviously razors won't cut super-hair, so he has to bounce heat vision off a piece of mirror tough enough to withstand the heat, like a chunk of his baby ship or something.
Anyone else feel Clark Kent is really Martian Manhunter or someone, and they are going to spin some story about Superman "pretending" to be Clark to keep him safe and everyone buys and his SecretID is reestablished and they never mention the reveal again
Also how shitty is daily planet security that an ex dead employee just waltzed in and no one noticed
>>83594902
Did Oz just restore his secret ID?
>>83595702
Yes... the wrong superman is gone..
>>83595702
>wrong Superman
You're right, he was the wrong """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Superman"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""".
>>83598624
The funny thing is that's an actual quote.
>>83599233
>I only read wikipedia articles but I somehow dont understand the cincept of alternate universes and ahve a huge loyalty to a character I've never actually read a comic from
Huh
Gotta say, I'm legit interested in a Superman title for the first time in decades.
I really like the idea of the older/wiser pre-flashpoint supes stepping in and picking back up the mantle. One of my main criticisms of the Nu-52 Supes was that he was never the leader Superman should be and always defaulted to Batman.
>>83594700
I mourn the beard
Also, who the fuck keeps a broken piece of mirror in the bathroom, especially when he has a kid? Can't he ask Lois for her powder compact?
>>83599284
you're a homosexual
>>83595702
>HHHHUUUUURRRRRRR
>Superman must saving lives 24/7
There are dozens of stories that explain that this fucking attitude of ignorant civilians who would like Superman totally annulling himself and his life to save people 24/7 it is the first reason for him to freak out.
Samaritan in a positive case, Plutonian in a negative. This world already had a Superman, and Post Crisis Clark, should not even be here (or at least it was what he thought) , him, more than anyone deserved, a break for his family.
>>83594743
What a bastard. I love it.
>>83599481
His heat vision needs something it won't slice right through. He uses part of his old ship. Lois' makeup thing ain't gonna take that kind of heat.
>>83599583
>Lois shaving her legs with Heat Vision
>>83594944
How did Supes even recognize him in that outfit?
>>83595031
>Pre-Flashpoint Superman
>no dirt on Luthor
>>83599583
Please anon stop being a faggot, it's fun when someone can use a little compact to heat vision their beard off, it looks cool, which besides making money off children are the 2 things capes are about
>>83599612
Are you joking, right?
>>83599612
That's the outfit from his first appearance
It just gets shredded when they fight
>>83598845
I doubt it, it's probably eradicator from pre flashpoint.
>>83599700
>>83599703
Ah shit, I forgot about that. I need to reread that.
>>83594700
NOT THE BEARD!!!!
>>83599633
I know /co/ doesn't read comics but you could at least try to read the comic in a storytime thread you're posting in.
>>83594902
so this is someone who got hit by those superman beams that also hit lana and lois but offscreen right
>>83599502
There's a difference between saving the world 24/7 and reacting to an invasion spearheaded by an evil version of you after the justice league is supposedly dead.
>>83598198
He doesn't know, as of tha page
>>83601247
Nah it's a new construct or maybe this earth always had a human clark, and the superman who died was a magical sandman creature.
>>83594944
That Doomsday outfit will never not be amazing
>>83594878
>Sups: You Started this Lex!
>Lex: You hit me first!
>Sups: Yeah but you'll always be bad people Lex. NO ONE CHANGES! NO ONE!!!
What even...
>>83595031
>Metallo
>Parasite
>Brainaic
>Amazo
Also, why wasn't Pre-Flashpoint Superman helping during the Crime Syndicate invasion?
>>83594944
WHAT IS HAPPENING!?
>>83594682
Goddammit Superman you can be a serious wet blanket sometimes. What moral conviction do you break by unpacking packages really fast?
>>83602340
I can already tell what's gonna happen.
>Lex helps defeat doomsday
>gee lex Im sorry I'll give you a chance
>supes leaves
>Little does superman know, I hired the goons that released doomsday. BWAHAHAHA
>>83595405
This Superman is paranoid as fuck. Don't forget he had his own Gitmo going during
Superman: Lois & Clark
>>83602385
DOOMSDAY
AGAIN
AND YOURE GONNA LIKE IT
>>83594902
Is Nu52 Superman not dead, but living out his life as Clark Kent? He looks a bit too old to be the right guy there.
>>83595562
>Post-Crisis Superman and pre-Crisis Superman are ultimately the same character. It was really their continuity that got rebooted.
Pre-Crisis Superman is defined by spectacle and optimism in the face of absurdity. Post-Crisis Superman was defined by guilt and (usually unrewarded) optimism in the face of adversity, which is fine, but is an entirely different story being told. They definitely weren't the same.
>>83599502
>The world has been overtaken by supervillains, all of earth's mightiest heroes are dead/missing!
>I, The Superman of another world will sit idly by as the world descends into anarchy
>>83596083
>The real Superman would have given an opportunity for Lex to be a hero, not trusting him of course, but without going to him play the bully for no reason.
That's exactly what New 52 Superman did when Lex joined the Justice League. He hated it, but he didn't attack Lex and try to rip the costume off his chest.
>>83594891
> a cyborg.
Yes. I miss having a Cyborg Superman!Who isn't Kara's father. I miss old Hank.
I think Superman jumped the gun a little bit and was not too considerate of the people by punching Lex into buses/buildings/etc. Feels too much like MoS Supes.
>>83602656
Yeah he can have a life but when shit that big is going down you help out. It is just out of character for him to do nothing.
>N52 Superman is already back from the grave.
>Pre-Flashpoint Doomsday clearly returned.
>>83603949
That's because it's not really Pre-Flashpoint Superman. It's Prime.
>>83604242
>it's not really Pre-Flashpoint Superman. It's Prime.
please don't tease Prime Time when you know it won't happen
>>83604423
In the words of Johns... *knock* *knock*
>>83594565
For someone who prides on always giving another chance and hoping for the best of humankind, the old Supes sure comes like a vengeful and resented faggot.
I didnt like it. He actually feels angrier and less hope inspiring than Nuperman.
>>83604817
Good thing you're not writing the comic then.
>>83604932
No, Im just one guy who wont pay for it.
>>83594565
>N-not muh Superman
Christ just kill yourselves already. I liked this issue.
>>83604513
there is no boy better than him
>>83594891
>Clone?
I miss him...
>>83594850
Isn't Superman being a little jerky here? I mean, I know it's Luthor, but come on, he doesn't know this particular Luthor
I know Post-Flashpoint versions of the characters are supposed to be the same from the Pre-Flashpoint universe just deaged, but Superman doesn't know that yet
>>83599700
>perspective
>>83594944
I'm telling you faggots since a long time ago that Jurgens has a good handle of Superman.
>>83606380
But he clearly doesn't. Superman here acts like a retarded asshole.
>>83594758
And god fucking damn it. What's the deal? WHY THE FUCK ISN'T HE WEARING THE CLASSIC SUIT!!!! No, this is fucking juvenile. As if him not wearing the red shorts somehow makes him edgy or shit. You know what fuckit. I almost picked this up today. I was willing to tolerate fucking Jurgens and Jiminez and whatever hack writers you put on the characters for the short term. But no. I'm only buying Aquaman I guess.
>>83594902
And now this. Sigh, if this is the real clark that would be awesome. Have him be Superlois boyfriend. Of course Jiminez can't write straight relationships if you put a gun to his head.
>>83595005
Eh, Doomsday has been less a threat with every appearance since DoS. I wouldn't be surprised if he started henching.
>>83598624
"I don't want to see characters that have been straight for 60 years become lesbians overnight because the writer’s too stupid or uncreative to come up with something decent." -Darwyn Cooke
RIP man. Too good for this Earth. Fuck Rucka and Andreyko.
>>83594595
>that shifting gun design.
don't show /k/. it's on the level of triggering
I'm so fucking confused I wish they could get their shit straight.
So this bearded superman is the pre-nu52 superman who somehow got older and had a son and then came to this post-nu52 earth
but now with rebirth they're implying the post and pre nu52 earths are actually the same and it's just been altered by having time missing and shit replaced/moved around
what the fuck is it? is he a parrallel superman or not? and if thats the case how come there's two superman?
somebody explain this shit to me
if the nu52 universe is the same as the one before with 10 years stolen how come there's nu52 superman whose dead and this new one????? shouldn't it just be one superman? FUCK THIS IS DUMB
>>83607504
Nu52perman was never the real Superman or Clark. Presumably Lois was also never the real Lois.
It's also still an ongoing mystery.
>>83607686
THEN WHO THE FUCK ARE THEY? WHY DO THEY THINK THEY'RE THE REAL SUPERMAN/LOIS?
THIS IS RETARDED
it's an ongoing mystery because fucking editorial came up with this shit and no writer has any way to explain it
>>83598198
>>Didn't Rebirth make it canon that Superman IS from this world?
??
when?
i dont remember that page
>>83595389
>>83595475
Everything that exists has a specific nature, and possesses characteristics that are a part of what it is. A is A… And no matter what reality he calls home, Luthor is Luthor.
>>83606380
Yes, but he's limited as a writer. This takes more ability than he has.
Wasn't Perry super jacked at the beginning of the New 52 too?
>>83602404
A kid's education starts with the basic things, loose them at that level and you fail at parening.
>>83594743
>I am honored to have called him my friend.
I can't stop laughing.
Who is this superman? When/why was he supposed to have died?
Why does he suddenly have a 5 year old kid?
>>83608042
This nigga gets it.
>>83602505
It could be the "Clark Kent" part of him, Lois and Chinaguy got his powers, Lana's his knowledge.
>>83594865
>your dad will never fight Lex Luthor on TV
I'm just gonna wait until all this is over. maybe Chinese Superman and Superwoman will be good
>>83596111
I agree, we should have another 30 more years of the same thing
So has the death of new 52 Superman been storytimed already?
>>83608532
>maybe Chinese Superman and Superwoman will be good
Both of them sound like they should be at least ok. The only worry for me is whether Superwoman leans too much on the dying drama. I hope that gets fixed quickly.
Lemme get this straight.
>Luthor is a hero in the eyes of the world whom he saved
>Superman has zero evidence he has committed any crimes or done anything wrong
>Luthor JUST saved about 30 hostages from a bank robbery
>Lex declares he wants to be a hero for the people and vows to keep them all safe
>Superman basically goes "REEEEEEEEEE take that logo off now!"
>physically assaults Luthor in front of hundreds of cops, reporters and civilians
>accuses Luthor of "attacking" him, when he defends himself
THIS is what you people are praising as a good issue?
>>83608804
Well said, he's not so different from Nuperman at his core.
>>83608042
Earth 3 Luthor is a good guy from the world this Sueprman comes from.
>>83609128
>Earth 3 Luthor is a good guy
>>83609128
He didn't live long enough to see himself become the villain.
>>83609422
>>83609443
>posting pre-crisis earth-3 Luthor's son as some sort of argument
>>83606453
See this is why everyone thinks Superman's fanbase is retarded.
>>83608804
>THIS is what you people are praising as a good issue?
where you see the praises? It's all the day that people say that Superdad, after cutting his beard, became a proto Snyder Superman.
>>83594565
Thank you.
>>83602505
My money's on a robot.
>>83594732
So are Batman and Wonder Woman and they don't show up at all.
That said, was Doomsday really the best thing Jurgens could come up with?
So did both Clark *and* Bruce have their identities revealed in New 52?
>>83611120
Just Clark and Dick and Dick already has his back.
>>83611212
How did everyone forget Dick was Nightwing?
>>83595601
you're an asshole Bruce
>>83596083
>an opportunity for Lex to be a hero,
Trusting Luthor is fucking waste of time and you should know better.
>>83598502
this
>>83611385
Dr. Dedalus had satellites erase DIck from everyone's memories entirely so he could take control of his body. Dick also had them erase Dr. D and Helena sabotaged it so that she and the Bat-family would still remember Dick. As far as everyone else is concerned, Dick Grayson never existed.
>people trying to say Superman was being too judgemental in this issue.
for fucksakes, didn't one of the last Action Comics arcs before Flashpoint have Lex becoming a demi-god and trying to go back in time in Clark's life to destroy everything in front of him? And it's not like this universe's Lex has been a complete paragon of virtue. New 52 Supes never completely warmed up to him.
>>83594565
Can I get a tl;dr on what happened to new 52 supes, and why post-crisis is out of hiding
>>83612623
Just ignore the retards who think Lex is some super nice and misunderstood guy. They also probably think Harley is a great strong female role model even though she's killed hundreds of people.
>>83612623
Everyone's fine with him not trusting Luthor. Thats a given. Its how he handled the situation which was terrible writing.
Superman, upon seeing that the populace trusts Lex as a hero and Supes himself not having any proof he's a bad guy, would let him go about his business for now but would tell Lex he has his eye on him and will be there when he inevitably slips up.
Instead Superman went "Reeeeee fuck you" and attacked him. Terrible.
I thought Superman was the guy that would always give you a chance.
>>83612802
that's fair to criticize, it was a limp-wristed attempt to put action in an issue of Action Comics. but I see people that straight up think Superman should give Lex a chance at this. A shit leopard doesn't change his spots, unless it's Earth 3.
I'm so confuse. WTF is happening? is new52superman alive or what?
>>83613382
Keep reading to find out.
Christ you people are fucking stupid.
>>83595562
Pre-Crisis Superman became branded as Kal-L and retroactively assigned to Pre-Infinite Crisis Earth One, Post-Crisis Superman is Kal-El.
They are considered two different characters at this point in DC's universe, with Nu52 Superman being a third (and technically Superboy Prime counts as a fourth, but I don't know what's happening with him).
>>83613382
Probably a robot. Or Ulysses or something. Jurgens is doing Death of Storytime again.
It'll all lead to Supes getting his secret identity back hopefully at least.
>>83612802
>Instead Superman went "Reeeeee fuck you" and attacked him. Terrible.
Because another version of himself just died and he's pissed off that Lex is using that to his own advantage. Lex using his symbol is probably also getting under his skin.
You faggots DO realize that Clark has some rather strong resentment towards Lex right? And that he's not fucking perfect?
I thought all this bullshit about Supes always being perfect was just a meme but it seems some of you faggots actually believe it.
I've never read any Superman comics ever until Rebirth. I liked this issue. I grew up with the DCAU, where Lex was a complete dick as well, so I can see what supes doesn't trust him(I know, not same continuity, but same character traits I assume) I mostly read Batman in the Nu52, but read Forever Evil and Justice League. I myself don't trust Lex still either, so it will be interesting to see.
>>83612855
Lex has had plenty of chances, and Clark's not stupid. He knows that not everyone is actually sincere when they try to claim they've turned a new leaf.
>>83607718
>DC reboots
>"Now our comics are more accessible for our fans: both new and old readers alike!"
>Creates editorial and narrative clusterfuck
>Attempts to pretend it all works while having "awesome" moments
>Events added into already volatile mixtures of plot
>Everything becomes such a mess that another reboot is needed
>"Now our comics are more accessible for our fans: both new and old readers alike!"
I'll admit I do like all the multiple universes and such, but the sheer amount of continuity shuffling DC goes through makes my head spin.
>>83613625
I expect him to not be such a hot head.
Not asking him to be perfect, simply to not fucking attack who most of the world consider a hero in front of them all for literally no reason.
fixed
>>83613910
I mean, how triggered would you be to see a sworn enemy for your entire life decide to suddenly take up your mantle?
>>83612855
>giving Lex a chance
>ever
You give him a finger, he'll bite off your hand.
>>83613559
god, it's been so long since Superboy Prime was everywhere and then he fucked off permanently. He feels like he's from a different era more than anything else.
>>83612802
Lex is wearing his logo and the dead Supes' cape. That enough of a reason to get pissed.
>>83612855
people have to want to change before they change
Lex does not want to change
>>83614156
Strangely enough, he became one of the things I actually liked to come out of Infinite Crisis, even though Alexander Luthor was turned into a villain because HURR DURR.
>>83614004
Yeah man, who cares about truth and justice. Just assualt people because they made you mad! That's the essence of Superman!
>>83614224
Exhibit B for why Superman shouldn't trust a single Luthor.
>>83597032
>not Dooomsday
Someone make a sequel to that new 52 superman taking over for old superman
>>83597045
>clark kent and superman in the same place
>cant have doomsday too
>>83614297
Actually that would be quite meta.
>No Lex, it isn't "you" you, if you get my meaning.
>It's that some asshole somewhere needs a villain and you're just too good to pass up.
>>83613559
>Pre-Crisis Superman became branded as Kal-L and retroactively assigned to Pre-Infinite Crisis Earth One, Post-Crisis Superman is Kal-El.
You've got that slightly wrong.
Post-Crisis Earth is Earth-1 with its history changed. so Post-Crisis Supes is technically Silver Age Supes reborn.
Kal-L was the Golden Age/Earth-2 Superman who served with the Justice Society.
>>83614435
You're right, I was checking that up on Wikipedia.
Fuck me if I can keep all of this straight nowadays.
God knows what Hawkman's timeline looks like now.
>>83594670
So Metropolis has an "upstate" just like New York? I know Gotham City has an "upstate", but is this the first time Metropolis has?
>>83614494
I think the Nu52 has already managed to fuck up whether he's Carter or Katar, lol
>>83614523
"upstate" is just what you call it when you're north of a major city, man. It's generic, not a specific region of America.
>>83594700
Pity, the beard looks good on him.
>>83599481
>who the fuck keeps a broken piece of mirror in the bathroom,
And it's funny it's there when they haven't even unpacked yet. Towels and soap are out - I guess the bathroom is top priority when you move.
can someone explain this shit to me? I stopped reading after Final Crisis
>>83614698
go fuck yourself.
>>83614617
Google "upstate". Look at the top links. How many refer to NY, and how many refer to any other state?
>>83614739
Comic fans, everybody!
>>83597069
There were like 4 in Reign of Doomsdays
>>83614783
That's because NY has the etymological problem of having one of the most significant cities on the planet having the same name as its parent state, which is relatively mundane.
>>83595504
>Turns out people can't spot a cunt when he's right in front of them
Worked for Obama and now for Clinton
>>83614581
Not really, he is the alien one.
Dc52 is less convoluted as post crisis.
>>83614831
Nah, that's just 4chan board culture.
People in person usually enjoy teaching you about their hobbies.
>>83614920
Dude was going by Carter in that JLA run with Vibe and Catwoman.
>>83614698
>>83614698
Five years ago DC rebooted. Its called the New 52 universe
A few years later, they did an event called Convergence where it turned out a couple heroes from the previous universe survived. The Superman from the old universe and his family stick around in seclusion after Convergence, so there were two Supermen going around for a while. And in the meantime New52 Superman's identity as Clark was revealed to the world.
New52 Superman just died, so now old universe Superman is back. That's the most basic I can make this.
>>83615078
Carter was the aliens name on earth just like the golden age one. Katar is his real non human name.
>>83615142
thank you good anon
>>83595540
If I try to tear a patch off your shirt, that's assault and you're more than justified when you fight back. Lex has no reason to trust this imposter.
>>83614004
>I mean, how triggered would you be to see a sworn enemy for your entire life decide to suddenly take up your mantle?
It's not his life anymore. It was another guy. Lex has as much a right to take up the mantle of the protector of Metropolis as anyone and after the last few issues of Superman he's probably right not to trust some new asshole showing up claiming to be superman.
>>83612775
>Just ignore the retards who think Lex is some super nice and misunderstood guy
>>83615367
>posts pictures of a different continuity to prove something about this one.
>>83594850
Did superdick almost throw Luthor into a bunch of reporters?
What's with all the assblasted Lexfags crawling out of the woodwork? The dude is a fucking Dick Dasterdly-tier comic relief villain.
>>83595389
Except Ozymandias told Superman the universe had been fucked with and time stolen, just because little details about Luthor are different, doesn't mean this isn't the same person. NuLex still crashed a train into NotSuperman to trap him, tortured him, and sold out humanity to whatever those NotBrainiac things were that bottled Metropolis. Luthor showed his true colors right from the start of the Nu52 comics.
>>83598075
So you wait for him to betray people before you stop him, even knowing that he ABSOLUTELY WILL DO IT?
>>83598597
Maybe if we raise enough of a a stink for it they will
>>83615527
They're not Lexfags, they're Superman haters.
>>83598626
But the movies are shit
>>83598845
Matrix Supergirl?
>>83615722
>So you wait for him to betray people before you stop him
If the universe changed and everyone was weirdly different then yes. You wait. You don't punch someone in the face for something that you expect they might do. If you do then you're the asshole. This Clark knows absolutely nothing bad about this Lex other than his name is Lex. Punching him into a group of bystanders makes him a Lexist.
>>83615787
I'm actually a NOT MUH Superman fan who doesn't like how pre-Flashpoint Superman is being characterized so I'm pretending Lex did nothing wrong
>>83598845
I'm pretty sure that it's all done just so they can have Clark writing articles for a newspaper even though no one reads newspapers anymore unless they're older than my grandmother. If Clark's origin was him working for the Pony Express they'd find a way to force him to ride horses cause they don't know how to let shit go.
>>83611960
That's fucking retarded
>>83616118
>That's fucking retarded
The shit they go through to get rid of story elements they don't like.
>>83614871
Very true.
>>83614908
And Dubya and pretty much anyone since Eisenhower.
>>83597778
That's why Pre-52 Superman was pissed at him
>>83594732
Who's that dude in the last panel?
>>83595336
>but he's perfectly serviceable
That sums up Jurgens. He's not a bad writer. He's not a good writer.
He's just a consistently OK writer. He's reliably average.
>>83595405
>He has literally done nothing wrong
Have you read New 52 Lex? Like, at all?
>>83616977
>>83595525
>He was literally in a Super prison at the start of the New 52
A Super-prison that he himself built because New 52 Superman challenged him to building a prison so good that even Lex couldn't break out of it.
So he did, but he couldn't prove that it was so good that not even Lex could break out of it unless he put himself into it. Which resulted in him not being able to break out.
Lex built the prison himself and put himself inside it. That just means Lex is gullible, not that he's evil.
>>83617005
He was put in there for doing something so evil that Nuperman heat visioned half his face for doing it.
>>83617262
Oh yeah. I doubt it was that bad though. Superman probably just overreacted.
>>83594944
This is like the third time Doomsday has appeared in full outfit right? First appearance, his rematch during Joker's Last Laugh he had the outfit on, and now this right?
>>83617305
IIRC were a couple of times during his random appearances when he had the full suit, albeit a bit damaged.
>>83594643
Based lex
>>83598198
No. Everyone else but Superman, Wally and Booster, because they weren't "in the universe" when it happened. So Superman of Nu52 is not Kal-El, but was someone else that Dr. Manhatten made into Kal-El.
>>83594850
Why Supes is always a dumb douche?
>>83620298
Wouldn't it just be Kal-L and Pre-Crisis Earth-2 Lois?
>>83595136
Good. We have twice as many Batbooks usually, let Superman have a ton for a change.
>>83620512
That is the favored theory, yes.
>>83615898
>might
This is LEX LUTHOR, there is no might, no maybe, no could have. He WILL fuck everyone over.
>>83620512
That makes the most sense for sure
>>83601247
It's Eradicator.
>>83602361
Is their slogan still "Story trumps continuity"?
If not, they've established that his powers seem to be a lot weaker now.
Action Comics 957 (2016) (2 covers) (digital) (Minutemen-Drunk Monk)
http://www67.zippyshare.com/v/JhawWcSD/file.html
>>83622905
>Is their slogan still "Story trumps continuity"?
Not anymore since that failed and made sales slip.
>>83622604
oooh, that would be nifty.
>>83594565
Bump
>>83594850
>>83620511
>gets agitated by seeing Luthor save people on TV
>antagonizes him in public
>touches Luthor despite being warned not to
>proceeds to throw the first punch, starts a fight, causes property damage in the middle of a giant crowd
I miss when Superman was actually "super"! FUCK this edgy Rebirth Superman!!! I want MUH SUPERMAN back!!!
>>83620511
Why is Batcunt always a dumb douche?
>>83630146
Ditto. .....
>>83597045
>Doomsday
>>83616995
This is the exception, rather than the norm. Plus, that wasn't even in a main book, that was a villains one-shot, some of which were so isolated they were practically out-of-continuity.
According to most writers in the New 52, Lex isn't the same brand of mustache-twirling evil he's been before. Honestly, with most ongoing cape comics, editorial and writers change so often, I only really ever consider the last 15 issues or so to really matter.
>>83617262
When did this happen?
>>83594565
Can anyone catch me up on what all is going on? How did Pre-Flashpoint Supes show up and how did Nu52 Supes die? Otherwise I follow the story.
>>83608933
>Nuperman
All the flak new 52 supes get and yet he would never done something like this
>>83630990
Pre-Flashpoint Supes and Lois went off at the end of Convergence to prevent the original Crisis, then found themselves in the N52 reality which had been altered while they were out of time. N52 Superman burned himself up stopping some superflare being encoded with his genome.
>>83631110
Thanks! I didnt read the supes stuff in Convergence (I really disliked most that event... read only the bare minimum). I'll have to go catch up.
>>83631365
That's ok mate, the Convergence tie-ins were all anyone really cared about with that event. The main book was like a diet coke Multiversity, and we already had Multiversity to read by then
>>83631509
>The main book was like a diet coke Multiversity
Just as Countdown was to Final Crisis...or 52.
>>83631063
What I like about New52perman was that he was a bit brash and careless, but at least it was explained as part of his character when he was young. He was a cocky son of a bitch who loved to scare the fuck out of mob bosses and laugh at terrorists who peed their pants when he showed up. Obviously he grew out of it, but it made the character dynamic. By the time we got to present day, he was basically the same as Post-Crisis Supes.
Meanwhile, this Post-Crisis Superdad is supposed to be an older and even more experienced Superman, and in his first outing he did something so needlessly careless and violent, with little to no justification. Superfags love to play the "there's ALWAYS another way" card, so why did Superman need to start beating down a mortal man in a populated area, possibly killing innocent bystanders? Are you telling me there was NO other way to make sure Lex didn't kill someone within the next 5 minutes?
>inb4 "HURRRR, BUT LEX IS EBIL!!! HE KILLS BABBIES AND PLAYS PINOCHLE WITH HITLER!!!"
I think this all proves that most Superman fanboys are faggots with terrible taste who can't comprehend different characterizations, and would be better off locked in a basement, smashing action figures together.
>>83632609
Oh tumblr.
>>83632609
His distrust is completely justified you cunt characterfags are disgusting.
>>83632609
>this is my first comic book
>>83595587
Sucks batmans cock.
New 52 Nuperman is cancer.
>>83632609
luthor is literally evil king of apocalypse now that d-side is gone
>>83632755
I'm not saying his distrust isn't justified. But punching Luthor into the side of a bus, barely missing a bunch of innocent bystanders is NOT.
>characterfags
Wait, you people are openly declaring that people who value accurate characterization are somehow wrong? There truly is no helping you.
>>83632778
>someone likes New52
>better assume they are tasteless shits who don't read comic books
Whatever makes you feel better about your shit character allegiance.
>>83632716
>disagree
>blame tumblr
worse than tumblr
>>83632755
Anyone who is an actual characterfag wouldn't enjoy this because he isn't acting anything like pre-Flashpoint Superman right now. It's disgusting.
>>83633057
Oh Batfleck pls.
>>83633057
What he did is impulsive, and hopefully Supes gets called out on it, but Christ, take a chill pill. It's only the first issue.
>>83632837
But this Supes doesn't know that
>>83633156
Why didn't new 52 Superman get this defense on his first outing?
>>83633618
Because he's NOT MY DAD
#960 cover by Clay Mann
>>83634936
Cool
>>83594595
>>83594617
When did Maggie Sawyer move back to Metropolis?
>>83637314
Maybe after, she broke up with Kate. I think is best to ignore Andreyko Batwoman run.
>>83634936
God bless Mann
>>83638189
Bless him.
>>83637314
She was there in the Rebirth special questioning Saturn Girl
