So I know everyone is excited for DC's new reboot, but there's some really cool stuff going on over at Marvel that is getting really overlooked.
Civil War 2 is really exciting, and the reveal of Captain Americabeing an agent of Hydra all alongis pretty shocking, and people are already claiming that the reveal makes Rebirth look weak in comparison. Death of X is on its way too.
Plus it looks like Marvel is planning a huge new event that might just dwarf Rebirth with their new Marvel Now! line.
What do you think? What are you most excited for? What do you think Marvel Now! will be like?
Shill harder.
>>83134550
Jesus again?
They're too lazy to even come up with a new name, fuckin really?
>>83134597
Actually it's getting really good reception
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/05/24/everything-you-knew-about-captain-america-was-wrong-semi-spoilers/
>This week sees the release of the gorgeous-looking Captain America #1 by Nick Spencer and Jesus Saiz.
>And it will utterly change the history and very nature of Captain America. This was probably the big announcement originally planned by Marvel for yesterday in the wake of DC Universe Rebirth spoilers but it’s looking like it’s now been held back.
>So what is it?
>Well, it’s not the kiss with Sharon Carter, who notices how much older than Steve she now looks. Not even the liberal-left wing jibe on how unemployment is driving Hydra recruitment.
>Because this is the issue in which we get Nick Spencer’s The Anatomy Lesson moment.The Anatomy Lesson being the second issue of Swamp Thing by Alan Moore and Steve Bissette where it is revealed that Swamp Thing was never Alec Holland, just the memory of him, preserved in vegetable matter.
>Everything you knew was wrong.
>If you want to avoid this spoiler then consider yourself warned. DC Universe: Rebirth? That was the trial run. Marvel wins.
>Marvel Now
>again
This is bait
>>83134550
Am I in a time loop or something
>>83134550
>really cool stuff going on over at Marvel
like what?
>>83134708
Bleeding Cool?! Drinking every drop of jizz Marvel gives them?! You don't say! Next you'll tell me DC Rebirth is problematic!
>>83134550
>>83134708
Marvel Stans detected
Even you know this is a terrible idea admit it, all these half asses events just thrown into this "all new all different" cast is getting hectic and bland.
>>83134597
>>83134708
plus there was this leak...
This is what real shilling looks like fellas.
>>83134550
>Plus it looks like Marvel is planning a huge new event
You don't say?
>>83134780
Who even mentioned movies? What do movies have to do with anything?
>>83134708
>see you next issue, when Steve is revealed to be Hitler's hidden son!
>xmen is now separate from the main earth like fox marvel
>secret wars 2.0 is avengers vs xmen
>>83134708
Most of 4chan and Reddit thinks it's stupid and Tumblr (and probably Twitter) are losing their minds, does anyone but fucking Bleedingcool like it?
>>83134550
This is some next level shitposting. No shill is this bad.
come on guys, please stop shitposting. We don't troll your rebirth threads so you can at least return the favour
>>83134923
>marvel is so bad that listing what they're doing is considered shitposting
what a world we live in
>>83134921
Marvel has seen that if people are angry they're talking about their comics and sales increase. I don't have the screencap but it was in an interview.
Marvel is a business, and a business's goal is to make money first and foremost. The fact that they make so much proves that what they're doing is right.
>>83134761
WHAT
HE'S GONE FOR YEARS
AND SHOWS UP ONLY FOR CAPTAIN AMERICA TO KILL HIM?
I TRUSTED YOU SPENCER! I TRUSTED YOOOUUUU!
>>83134888
I think Death of X will be Marvel officially retiring the X-men. The stories are tired by now and there's nothing interesting to do with them, and since they don't have film rights it's pretty unfair to expect Marvel to publish books that advertise their competitors.
I've always been a bit of an Inhumans fanatic so the fact that there's finally some space for them to shine being made makes me fanboy pretty hard.
>>83134550
Marvel has made me incapable of caring about whatever happens in their universe. If the status quo isn't back, the changes will end up being irrelevant
>>83135111
They sell too well for marvel to stop publishing books. Same with Deadpool
>>83134550
DC is having a new reboot?
>>83134830
Comics are the source material for the movies you half breed
>>83135082
he died doing what he loved. not having to deal with cosmic shit
>>83135172
Yes.
>>83135051
>When fans are outraged, that means we're doing something that's getting attention and is a bit controversial--and that always leads to better sales for us, anyways. Whereas when we're doing something that's embraced by the fans, the numbers are always soft.
see
>>83135082
Marvel is going to KILL in sales.
>>83135190
>his last thought
>"I'll never have to deal with cosmic shit again"
>>83134550
>Marvel Now
>again
They couldn't even change the name?
>>83135247
That Marvel Now was Marvel Then, this Marvel Now is Marvel Now
>>83134550
How'd you get the internship at marvel? Any tips?
>>83134708
Who could have guessed that the big strong Aryan was a bad guy all along
>>83134708
how can anybody honestly say that an event entirely based around making all the fans of an entire publisher happy by bringing back their favorite things can possibly be topped by revealing that a character was evil all along?
Like they're so entirely different that comparing them makes no sense
>>83135377
Tony Stark is their only white male left who isn't evil. They should go ahead and make him gay or retcon him as being half-muslim or something.
>>83135442
Strange?
>>83134708
>If you want to avoid this spoiler then consider yourself warned. DC Universe: Rebirth? That was the trial run. Marvel wins.
Goddamn, I like Marvel and even I found that poor taste. Did Marvel pay Rich to say that or does he just that much of a dicksucker? Did Geoff Johns murder his dog?
>>83135082
H-he has super strength, right?
He could survive that, right?
>>83135465
I meant like, Avengers characters.
>>83135497
Oh. Hawkeye?
>>83135488
nope, but a preteen transgirl will pick up his mantle and replace him.
>>83135519
Jackette Flag?
>>83134550
i wont care about marvel until they stop trying to replace x-men with inhumans, and put x-men back on x-teams, not avenger teams
>>83135516
He's deaf so he counts as disabled.
>>83135557
Pietro?
>>83135540
Jacqueline Flag
>>83135575
Gypsies aren't white
>>83135488
Jack Flag is strong and durable up to 40 or 50 tons so honestly, probably yes. If you don't see him die I'm sure someone can pick him up from that - but he's Z-list, so it'll be another few years at least.
>>83135605
Deadpool?
>>83134550
when will it end, /co/? when can i just die
>>83135263
When will Then be now?
>>83135671
Mugga
>>83135442
Uhh.. Peter?
>>83135716I thought you'd go with Canadian
Johnny's an Avenger now
>>83135716
Deadpool's not a mutant. Thought it could be argued he's mentally disabled.
>>83135732
that one probably counts
>>83135757
this one as well
ALTHOUGH according to Toy Biz vs United States the FF and Spiderman aren't humans so you could argue that makes them minorities
Okay, OP. I'll let it pass.
Now tell me how do you got the internship.
>>83135882
please stop trolling, thanks. We're trying to have a discussion here.
>>83135477
>he just that much of a dicksucker?
this is the correct answer
ironic shilling is still shilling
>constant relaunches and #1s
>constant crossovers
>constant events to the point that they're rehashing the same ones
>forcing stores to bulk up sales by ridiculous amounts for variant covers (just like before the crash)
is Marvel going to crash the industry again?
>>83135111
You really think they're gonna just throw away free money?
Nigga, the comics don't advertise the movies, it's the FUCKING MOVIES that advertise the comics.
>>83134550
Sorry, but as someone who enjoys Marvel more then DC and has read far more Marvel books; I don't care anymore.
"Big Things" have been happening at Marvel over and over again with rapid recurring frequency and shorter intervals between each one for 16 years, with "upheavals" that have lasted less time then the last shit I took and a roughly equivalent level of writing quality of said shit too.
Call me when Bendis dies or leaves and the company gets it's bullshit together and not before.
>>83134550
more #1s, more terrible tumblr tier crap that tries to mooch off the Ms Marvel Audience, more fucking events
>>83134708
did you even read the comments you dumbfuck? Even Reddit is annoyed
>>83136194
most likely, but hey since Marvel is crashing the industry, maybe we'll get another golden age of DC. The 90s had a lot of definitive runs and stories for DC.
>>83134550
>the reveal of Captain America being an agent of Hydra all along is pretty shocking, and people are already claiming that the reveal makes Rebirth look weak in comparison.
Why does the silent majority have such shitty taste in comics?
>>83136263
Actually, not so much.
Very few comics readers seem to make the transition from movies to comics, and it's more that comics readers who never branched out of certain characters go see them after a movie they saw and enjoyed.
But the actual number of people reading the comics of both Marvel and DC is depressingly low and consistent, a little bit less then 0.7% of the population of the United States.
>>83134550
sorry but I enjoyed Rebirth more than Nazi Cap and to think I thought the episode before I even ready any of those comics.
Also this >>83134589
>>83135190
kek
>>83134550
>people are already claiming that the reveal makes Rebirth look weak in comparison.
Literally no one is saying this. 0/10.
>>83134550
so what are the chances that Cap being in Hydra was added as a last-ditch effort by Marvel to generate hype while Rebirth is popular?
It seems like the whole reveal came out of nowhere.
>>83136461
>>83134550
>Civil War 2 is really exciting
No, it's not.
>the reveal of Captain America is pretty shocking
No it's not.
>and people are already claiming that the reveal makes Rebirth look weak in comparison.
People on twitter?
>What do you think Marvel Now! will be like?
The same piece of crap than before, probably.
>>83134550
Shouldnt that have been revealed in Original Sin?
You know the story where all long kept and biggest secrets were revealed.
>>83134550
I know that there's no way I'm going to get a sincere answer here, and that's fine. I accept that. But I still have to ask: Is this an intentional, self-aware parody of shilling? Because it doesn't even come across as the sort of accidentally unsubtle shilling that companies try to slip into social media and hope to go undetected. It feels like someone making fun of professional shills by overblowing the lack of subtlety.
Surely this is intended as a kind of meta-level joke at the expense of clumsily inexpert shills, right?
>>83134708
let's make our top grossing superhero into a iredemable monster!
see:
2007 and Civil War with Iron Man
and this week with Captain America: Civil War with Cap.
it's like they actively hate new fan's money
Is Sam Wilson a grand wizard
>>83134550
>Civil War 2 is really exciting
Yay, Minority Report with Super Heroes. Those quick edits and changes sure show those leakers ammaright?
>the reveal of Captain America being an agent of Hydra all along is pretty shocking,
It's shit, it's click bait tier cliffhanger garbage. I was said this was gonna be the fucking "Anatomy Lesson" this feels like fucking One More Day.
>and people are already claiming that the reveal makes Rebirth look weak in comparison.
Literally nobody but Rich Johnston
>Death of X is on its way too.
Yay, more suffering for Mutants, gotta stop letting Fox get new ideas from our IPs
>Plus it looks like Marvel is planning a huge new event that might just dwarf Rebirth with their new Marvel Now! line.
Another fucking relaunch where half of there "Unique" and "Progressive" Books are cancelled by Issue 4
Shill harder Mouseketeer
>>83136598
>mouseketeer
what is this supposed to mean? why do I keep seeing this thrown around?
>>83136598
Pretty much this.
And I'll resent Disney forever for what they did to the X-Men.
>>83136651
Marvel is owned by Disney. Disney's mascot is a mouse named Mickey.
>tfw you haven't given Marvel your money in years
Feels good m8s
>>83136651
You're kidding, right? How old are you?
>>83134708
>>83134550
Rich, is that you?
>>83135051
>Marvel has seen that if people are angry they're talking about their comics and sales increase.
>>83135194
>Marvel is going to KILL in sales.
Except for post-Secret Wars.
>All these people replying to obvious bait thread
>>83136689
>And I'll resent Disney forever for what they did to the X-Men.
This would've happened even if Disney never bought out Marvel. Look at how X-Men was treated during the 00's pre-Disney.
>>83134550
>HUGE things for Marvel's future
they sell this lie a hundred times and hundreds morons like you fall for it
>implying Steve being Hydra won't be revealed to be a ruse/someone mind controlling Steve/it's not really Steve or any combination of those
>>83136855
Welcome to comic book readers. Even battered housewives hit a point where they have enough, we'll just sit here take it because they said it was gonna be different, they were gonna get their shit together this time around.
>>83136809
It was inevitable. How can a group that served as a metaphor for being different compete with characters who are pushed for actually being different(in color, race, sexual preference, whatever.) People were gonna look away whether you like it or not.
>>83134550
Keep it.
>>83134550
I think all of this looks great! I can't wait to see how they resolve that spoiler!
>bring back Steve cap.
>make him evil
Marvel is like the Kardashian family of comics, controversy and scandal are it's only talents.
DC leaving smudges all over their continuity by constantly taking an eraser to it is slightly better at this point.
>Shilling this hard
Do I only have to shill Marvel to get those Disney fun bucks? Sign me up!
>>83137815
Did you ever stop to think that maybe everyone LIKES Marvel comics?
>>83134550
>>83134708
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KThlYHfIVa8
>MarvelComics.mp4
>>83134550
Looks amazing!
>100 / 11 / 52 / 1
>52
Where's that Civil War II Bingo chart?
>>83138799
>>83135172
Nop, is actually de-rebooting, even real Wally is back...
This place has no Disney shills they said, ha.
>>83139370
Just real fans exited for real comics. Hows your reboot going?
No other sites are reporting on this. FAKE!
>>83139463
Huh?
>>83139162
Marvel is the one of the renumberings each two or three months...
>>83139463
>marvel
>real comics
Maybe if you started reading comics a month ago
>>83134550
Hi Rich, I see that your latest attempt to shill hasn't paid off yet. How does it feel to suck Brevoort's dick?
>>83139856
Tom is paying me big bucks to shill for the House of Ideas.
>>83135111
I believe death of x is more like death of "x". (X=captain marvel or warmachine)
And honestly inhumans sell less than x-men. Most x-fans buy x-men because of x-men. Even if they rage about bendis and the poor stories, if they dont already read x-men and inhumans they wont migrate to inhumans.
>>83135194
>controverse things sell
Whats so unbelievable?
Everything controversial sells. Reasons are
>you want to see for yourself, tempted
>collect it because it could grow in worth
>you hate it but want to rage over it in your hand
>you like it and want to help
See charlie hebdo, there mohammed issue and the terror attacks were their best issues.
I bet there are several other examples of this.
>>83135172
No reboot. They actually took the New 52 reboot back. There is a difference.
>>83136542
Dude, that demands good writing.
We're talking about Marvel and Bendis here.
>>83134550
>Civil War 2 is really exciting, and the reveal of Captain Americabeing an agent of Hydra all alongis pretty shocking, and people are already claiming that the reveal makes Rebirth look weak in comparison. Death of X is on its way too.
None of those things excite me, hell if anything it makes me hate the direction they're heading into. Civil war ii is a retarded idea that would have never worked, fuck Bendis. Cap being a secret nazi isn't fooling anyone and will be handwaved away soon enough and fuck marvel for how they've ruined X-men.
>>83136461
>>83136473
This post is underrated.
>>83136764
Wait. Left upper corner.
Is this timetravel moot?
>>83136764
Who are these people?
>>83141967
The Mickey Mouse Club. One of the most popular kids shows of the 1950s. The original Disney teen pop-star generator.
Sorry but I cant see marvel doing something greater than Rebirth, Marvel big thing was secret wars that is now over.
I am a DC casual but even I know how big of a deal is watchman now being canon and bring white Wally to the current DC continuity, I dont know what ideas can marvel use for their next line of comics.
Marvel already has too many legacies and minorities characters.
I dont think retcons will have a big effect since those are the bread of everyday in comics.
The only thing that MIGHT make people happy is a better relation with the x-men franchise which I doubt.
who gives a fuck about marvel
>>83142395
rumor has it Death of X will be about gathering up all the mutants and booting them out into their own universe until they get the movie rights back
not saying that's anywhere near as significant as Rebirth, just throwing that on the conversation pile
the only think that could really shock people would be if Disney gave them the go-ahead to make Star Wars a part of the Marvel Universe
>>83134708
>DC Universe: Rebirth? That was the trial run. Marvel wins.
The shill is strong with this one.
>>83142506
OH THAT RIGHT, star wars X marvel, that is the only thing I can think that can trump Rebirth, but is marvel ready for Bendis writing star wars with the GotG ?
>>83142558
Which is weird since Rich is always bringing how marvel hates x-men and he was even blocked by Breevort on twitter recently.
>>83136591
Sam Wilson will have been a member of the Black Liberation Army and worked with other groups like the Weather Underground and oh I don't know the Secret Empire. This will be portrayed as a good thing though since they were leftists.
