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Is Dipper truly the best character?
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Is Dipper truly the best character?
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Don't you know it!
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>>82819811
>Real life is horrible, escapism is worse.

This upsets me.
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>>82820270
How does it feel to be such a pussy?
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Dipper
>has a strong moral center, takes responsibility for his actions
>actually learns lessons and applies them
>willing to risk his life to save the world
>learns to let go of Wendy and does it where they remain friends

Mabel
>never learns anything, no lesson is retained for more than 5 minutes
>obsessed with a different boy every episode
>endangers the lives of her family and friends for her shallow romantic pursuits
>replaced her own brother with a copy that was subservient to her
>definition of selfish
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>>82820568
In fairness, Dipper is Alex Hirsch and Mabel is based on his perceptions of his twin sister

I'm sure if you wrote a series about your sibling when they were a child it would not be glowing
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>>82820689
Didn't he said that he identify himself more with Mabel?
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>>82819811
Yes
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Is Mabel truly the worst?
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Alex's handling of the most logical ship.

>And let us not Pacifica's wasted development.
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>>82819811

Feminist mouthpiece.

>>82822349

Yes.
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>>82820568
This.
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>>82819811
>is dipper truly the best character

Yeah he is. He gets the most shit, and whenever he does anything that would be similar to Mabel's actions, he would have an entire episode focused around how these actions are wrong, ending with him learning from these mistakes.

Mabel is never called out for her bullshit, and never learns anything, even though she does some of the most selfish shit throughout the entire series.

All in all, Dipper keeps his cool while being ass blasted throughout the entire summer, and even becomes a better person by the end of the series.

I liked GF, but really started to hate Mabel's character after S2, which is a shame because I really like Kristen Schaal's voice acting. Luckily, Dipper managed to be the best character from the beginning to the end of the show.
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>>82824328
Everyone always calls Mabel out on her bullshit, but everyone ignores Stan, who in many ways is even worse.
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>>82825306
Stan isn't supposed to be a positive character in the same way as Mabel.
Plus he's shown to have wasted his entire life from scam to scam.
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>>82819811
Dipper was really an obnoxious little shit most of the time around Wendy early on but other than that he was cool.
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Dipper is the character whose flaws the narrative was willing to acknowledge.

This tendency did his character a service while the inverse did Mabel's character a disservice, especially towards the series conclusion.
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>>82820740
yes he did, both twins are reflections of hirsch's self image
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>>82825843
Stan = Mabel - Dipper.

His brother was much worse than Dipper could ever be. Dipper is the kinda guy who would throw his ambitions away if you needed him there which he did, whereas Ford was pretty narcissistic.

Mabel is lucky Dipper was so forgiving. Otherwise she'd wind up like Stan, always fucking up.
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>>82823924
I bet if Gravity Falls had 3 seasons this would have been explored more. Season 2 felt like they just crammed 2 seasons into 1. What with the finale-level reveal of Ford being what should have been the end of 2 and the next episode the beginning of 3.

Hell even Gideon's redemption arc was rushed as hell. The prophecy that was built up from Season 1 was thrown away just as quickly as it was bought up. So much potential wasted because there was only 2 seasons.
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In this show you can do all the horrible things you want and still be presented as a good person, but if you don't always put your family first then you're literally worse than Hitler.
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>>82825306
Except they don't.

Mabel got away with a lot of shit that just went under the rug. She caused weirdmageddon, and no one even fucking said anything about it.
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dipper was a pretty good guy in a world that hated him.
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>Dipper was almost chocked to death by his own umbilical cord
The world was trying to kill him from day one.
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>>82826456
So Hirsch is a selfish asshole with delusions or morality and repentance...Mabel is the person he is...Dipper is the person he wants to be...

...dat guilt mang...
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>>82820270
Escapism IS worse.
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>>82819811
Dipper is the best character to worship his sister Mabel as his God.
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>>82827990
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The only reason I watched Gravity Falls was because of Mabel.

Mabel is my waifu~ ;A;
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>>82820568
>Letting go of Wendy

Topkek
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>>82829301

I can still remember way back when when mabel was /co/'s waifu. Before /co/ turned on her...
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>find you're part of some sort of prophecy to defeat evil and save the world
>it gets ruined because two old guys can't get along for two minutes
>they end up doing everything on their own
I mean, the important thing is that Bill got stopped, but I can't be the only one who thinks this would suck, right? To find out you've got some sort of destiny to help save the world and then end up doing nothing of importance.
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1.- Dipper
2.- Stan
3.- Bill

It's a fact.
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>>82829639
if it was a prophecy, should't be accomplished by it? i mean, prophecies are supposed to occur
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HI GUYS
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>>82829457
I remember too.

No matter what happens, I'll always love her though. Mabel is my one true love ;~;"
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>>82829821
sauce? moar?
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>>82823924

It was not to be, anon.
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>>82820568
Mabel is literally Stan
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>>82829931

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=9183525
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>>82820568

>obsessed with a different boy every episode

This, is weird how little girl obsessed with men when Dipper only care about Wendy or Pacifica.

Any female cartoon character have this "Mabel treatment", because writer know women rarely have any hobbies or interests outside of machos. They tend to live vicariously through their men.
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>>82829875

/co/ is a fickle beast.
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>>82830190
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>>82830053
Reading your post actually triggered me.

Women have other interests too, depictions in cartoons and movies arent always accurate. Our lives aren't just dependent on men's....
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>>82830209
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>>82830212

Please ignore and do not respond to /pol/. With your help we can keep /co/ /pol/tard-free.

This has been a public service announcement. Thank you for your assistance.
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Is it normal for me to be in love with such a cute thirteen year old? Mabel-chan!~

;^; I will always love you.
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>>82829647

Those might be my three favorites but then I really like Pacifica, too. Wish they'd done more with her.
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>>82830282
I'm not from /Pol/ but I'm just saying that Anton's comment is highly incorrect and very biased.
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>>82830212
What other things interest you, besides the obvious comics and cartoons.
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>>82820198
I like the way you think, anon.
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>>82819811
Yes he was, and so was Stan. Dipper was such a good protagonist. Too bad his sister was the complete opposite and he had to help her ass all of the time.
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>>82830406

No, I meant anon is /pol/.

/pol/ just wants to pull everything onto its soapbox and rants about its feelz. Engaging with it is pointless. Please do not engage.

Whether it's an out of nowhere comment in a comic or cartoon thread about hating niggers, spics, slants, sandniggers, Jews, women, atheists, poor people, old people, or whoever, do not engage. /pol/ just hates everyone and wants to tell us all about it. It's not like there's a board just for that or anything, and this is a board about comics, oh no.
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Dipper gets the creepiest fan art of any cartoon protagonist from the past 20 years.
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>>82826456
How was this series so good if the two main characters basically the same self insert
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>>82828902
Paper jam dipper is stuff of nightmares
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>>82830533

To be fair I'm sure all boards on 4chan hate niggers. Even /mlp/ or /lgbt/.
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Dipper was a pretty good character and main protagonist.
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>>82829020
>that pic
What would happen if, as time progresses while they're dressed like each other, they slowly start becoming the other?
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>>82829821

>tfw I knew the artist just by the rendering style

Jesus christ what has my life become.
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>>82829821
pixiv is horrifying
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>>82830794
Inserting realistic parts of yourself and your experiences in works can work in moderation. Self inserts have a bad rep because they're hardly ever realistic, are usually an idealised version of the author and is just them jerking themselves off.
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>>82830794
Man every character is actually a self-insert. They can be well-written or badly written but most fiction and writing is crap. People sperg out about the wrong things, it's not really the insert idea that is the problem.
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>>82832408
This needs to be a fic.
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Mabel hypnotizing Dipper to think and act like her.

Also if I spam my fetish for a few years here will a bunch of drawfags eventually draw it?
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I wonder why Mabel seems to be more popular in Asia than over here.
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>>82834289
The string has to be tight for the vibration to travel along it.
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>>82834383
lolis
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>>82834494
maybe they're crying because they're too stupid to get it to work
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>>82834580
Probably this.
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Short Dipper dump for no reason.
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>>82835485
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>>82835505
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>>82835518
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>>82835542
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>>82835554
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>>82819811
Dipper was a shining beacon of greatness in western animation.
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>>82835572
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>>82835713
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>>82835732
Dipper asks to see pics of Lucy
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>>82835695
I misread "beacon of greatness."

I'm not entirely sure why I'm thinking of bacon, since I'm not even hungry.
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>>82835890
I think they're sharing pics of each other. lewd ones
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>>82836026
No, they are pure
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>>82836053
Yes, exactly.
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>>82835890
>>82836026

Originally they were supposed to be searching for "incest porn" (of course)!
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>>82836283
Nope, more shota.
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>>82834580
Doesn't Asia like shotas too?
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>>82819811
>Is Dipper truly the best character?

Yes and many, much more articulate Anons have stated many good reasons why he is hands down the best character in the series.

He's the guy who hands down went through the most character development out of any person in this series and even despite all that I truly don't believe he's even gotten anything resembling a happy ending that he deserves for the effort.

His "happy ending" is being tied to the hip of the easily (second) most selfish, self-centered, destructive and egotistical fucking persons in the whole series: Mabel. Mabel never "learns" anything- Mabel learns so fucking little and doesn't grow as a person in the entirety of the series that she literally the point of conflict at the end of the show.

Mabel has never cared about what Dipper has wanted- it's always been about what "Mabel wants" or what "Mable thinks", etc..

PACIFICA has more positive character development than Mabel.

Physical development included, seriously; Pacifica is going to be fucking STACKED when she's older.
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>>82836026
Don't sully Dipper with Lincoln.
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>>82836413
Some of the most cancerous of posters insist of saying the shows are exactly the same, for some retarded reason, so it's unavoidable.
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live action adaptation when?

Imagine we might get an actual third season
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>>82836368
Well yeah but the post wasnt asking about Dipper, though this is mostly a Dipper centric thread.
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>>82836477

>Gabriel Iglesias as Sues

I didn't know I wanted this so bad until someone suggested it.
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>>82836477
>>82836555
I think that mexican friend character from Antman would make a great Soos.
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>>82836555
You a fat chaser?
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I would hug a Dipper.
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>>82836555
>Gabriel Iglesias as Sues

It just works really well.
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>>82830353
this mabel is superior
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Why do people suggest Guillermo Hack Toro instead The Based Brothers?
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>>82819811
Has this just become another dumping ground for AU?
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>>82837024
M-muh
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>>82836459
The only thing similar is their are kids who are siblings in each show that is literally the only thing
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>>82837024
That Mabel is too damn old for the setting.
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>>82837069

No people just have a boner for Reverse Mabel.
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>>82836400

It is messed up had Dipper had to give up his dream for her. I mean it's not like he'd be moving across the country or anything. He'd literally be a bus ride away. A fucking bus ride. It was probably like a 6 hour trip at most. Phones exist, Internet exists. They're not gonna be unable to communicate worth a damn at all. My best friend moved to a different country and we still keep in regular contact.
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>>82837128
better?
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>>82837147
>82837147
Then why all the shota monster Dip?
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>>82837255
Nope. That's still several years above 13.
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>>82837281
I only see the one deer Dip.

It's too bad the AU girls get all the love because waifus.
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>>82837323
I guess younger makes all the sexy fan art of her kind of creepy.
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>>82837147
And boners for Dipper.
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>>82837150
Need I remind you that TELEPORTATION motherfucking exists at the end of the show.
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>>82837424
They seem to have boners for everyone so that's not saying much.
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>>82837061
>not wanting a fan of the show to make it into a hilarious visual marvel (think a kid friendly version of Pan's Labyrinth)
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>>82837360
a shota deer dipper for you
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>>82837424

/co/ doesn't boner for Dipper they just self-insert as him.
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>>82820689
Dude, Loud House is a show with 9 of those, and it never feels as one sided as this show was. Both Lincoln and his sisters care for each other and it shows every episode. I cant say the same for Mabel, since she never once cared for Dipper.
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>>82837915
Speak for yourself retard, my bone is for Dips.
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>>82836477
10/10 casting
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>>82838057
I'm still a bit upset we never got to see him in his underwear.
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>>82838613
You got to see him in a jacuzzi in swim shorts, there there, everything's going to be okay.
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>>82838613
Yeah, just another disappointment in the series.
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>>82819811
Rate me head canon
Pacifica is shown as a bitch, and is accompanied by her two lackeys. During the Sev'ral times is the last time you see the lackeys, also shown to be fighting later.

My head canon is that this is when Pacifica lackeys broke up with her. Probably telling her they were sick oh her shit, ect. I think that's why she latch on to Dipper and Mabel. Trying to replace her friendship with ppl who didn't care about her wealth and seem content without it.
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>>82837714
I hate how monster Dipper doesn't have any monster powers.
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>>82838785
That would only count if they were speedos, which they were not.
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>>82838999
He should only wear speedos if he's got the figure for it.
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>>82839046
Which i'm sure he does.
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>>82839046
I know who would.
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>>82839302
>Gideon
Absolutely fucking disgusting
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>>82835518
I'm intrigued. Concerned for Dipper, but intrigued.
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>>82839282
>dem legs
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>>82839302
YES, YES! BURN THE CHILD!
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>>82836477
There will be some shitty reboot or live action movie someday just because Disney has no new ideas.
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>>82835518
>>82839427

Man if I had a nickel for every time Dipper is raped by tentacles in fanfiction I would now be rich.
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>>82839302
Why would you have Gideon when you could have an infinitely superior fat Dipper?
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>>82819811

Dipper is the absolute WORST and here's why. He's an irresponsible, insecure, lazy, little twerp who only cares about himself. If Mabel's a bitch, then Dipper is a super bitch. From day one, ever since Dipper got the journal all that comes out of his mouth is:

"How can I use the journal to get closer to Wendy?"
"How can I use the journal to get famous?"
"How can I use the journal to make myself taller?"
"How can I use the journal to get closer to Wendy?"
"How can I use the journal to get a deeper voice?"
"How can I use the journal to prove I'm right?"
"How can I use the journal to get closer to Wendy?"

All of these selfish endeavors nearly led to loss of life and limb of pretty much everyone around him, but he never learns his lesson. Meanwhile, Mabel has only used the journal twice, and both accounts were for the benefit of other people.
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>>82839663
This copypasta is both stale and stupid.
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>>82839644
Gideon has a lot more to play with
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Bipper a cute.
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>>82839342
maybe he needs a new hairstyle
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>>82837255
>>82839282

I just want to be her little pet.

Is that really so much to ask?
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>>82839835
Ah, but the thing about a fat Dipper is that it's a simple process to make him fatter.
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>>82826866
>Season 2 felt like they just crammed 2 seasons into 1.
I'm still convinced that was the case. Alex admitted years ago that the original plan was for three seasons, one per month of summer.
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>>82839936
A new everything.
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>>82840239
what about if he appeared in the pool after his redemption arc?
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>>82836477
I hope those would be 45 minute episodes. I get people feel like there was fat that needed trimming with GF, but GF was also a show that did need at least a handful of episodes dedicated just to shooting to the breeze and such if you ask me.

Especially if those slice-of-life episodes helped show the after effects of some larger plots.

It's kind of a delicate balance.

>>82836555
>>82836977
yeah, thew casting ideas are pretty 10/10.

>>82820568
>>82824328
>>82826642
And all it really would have taken to make Mabel feel better is if she at least offered to let Dipper go or even suggest she could stay in Gravity Falls too.

Or just some big concession so her brother could stay.
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>>82840300
He would still be a hideous, fat, horrible asshole of a human with a shitty and sloppily rushed "redemption" is all.
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>>82836477
Is that Chad from True Detective S2?
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>>82837150
They dropped the ball on even exploring that whole thing, I can see a lot of downsides to it that have nothing to do with Mabel, as was discussed, but after setting off such a major event it was practically forgotten about. For me the biggest let down was having this hugely effective "oh shit" moment not just for the plot/world but for the characters and their relationships in Vs the Future and then having all the damage and danger immediately fizzle to nothing.
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>>82840012
She may end up killing you for a magic show
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So what's the chances on Bill Cipher appearing in Kingdom Hearts as a secret boss? Cause I need it to happen really badly.

>"Hey there, nice to finally meet you Sora!"
>"How...did you know my name?"
>"Oh, I know lots of things, but enough about me, let's talk about me! Word around the street is that theirs a source of ultimate power around these parts and I want to get in on that!"
>Goofy" Garsh Sora, something about this guy doesn't sit well with me."
>"Hey, nice key you got there, it's a little too big for the average lock wouldn't you say? In fact if I didn't know any better I would say that key was for oh, I don't know, opening and closing boundaries between worlds. Something I'm in dire need of!"
>"You want my keyblade? Fat chance!"
>Bill Cipher glares at Sora
>"Listen brat, I have some unfinished business with these two old men and their bratty nephews and that key is...well the key to getting my revenge!
>"So, I'll give you two options, option one, we can fight, I'll ultimately kill you and take the Keryblade literally from your cold dead hands OR you can pick option two wear you drop it and walk away because if you pick option one, I'll banish you to a nightmare reality filled with neuro-lobotimzing tree monsters!
>Sora launches a projectile and misses
>"Thank you for picking option one!"
>Bill glows red and the battle begins
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>>82840774
sadly, I think Nomura has gone on record saying "Disney movies only, no TV shows".

Also why it's only FF square characters and we'll never see something like Sion Barzaad and Dominique as Sora's parents or fight Id from Xenogears as a bonus boss. (Plus Id Weltall)
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>>82840415
Yup
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>>82840764
I would gladly sacrifice for the cause.
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>>82840774
I forgot they were even still making these games.
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>>82840774
Make a fanfic, i will read it.
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So is this a best ship thread or what?
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>>82829975
I actually laughed
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>>82841742
no, it's Reverse Falls thread
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>>82842098
>AU turnig the main characters into edgy mary sue villains
Can we not?
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>>82842139

But consider its assets, anon. Its upsides, if you will. I think you'll perk right up.
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>>82841742
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Post more Dippers.
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>>82841742
>more interesting interaction than with Wendy
>lasted one episode
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>>82842526
Nice
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Dipper and the Author Mystery were the only thing keeping me on the show. Stan was only good for his one liners because plot heavy episodes made me feel completely and utterly unsympathetic for him, Mabel is shit through and through, and all of the side characters served no fucking purpose what-so-ever.

Dipcifica is still the most superior ship to date though.Just imagine these two knowing they're better than everyone and being smart and snarking each other to hell and back.
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>>82843470
>Dipcifica
PA
DIP
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CA
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>>82843470
Dipper is still too good for everyone though, all the girls in the show are shit or background props that pathetic betas latched on to.
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>>82843470
Still hate how the show portrayed you not wanting to be with your family 24/7 100% no matter how shit they treat you as literally the worst thing ever. Pissed me off, because 1, not every family is like that (and I don't mean bad ones), and 2, the Pines are way too dysfunctional to be squeezed together. Eventually they're gonna snap and no more magical apocalyptic repairs.

Congratulations on making sure that Dipper is stuck with his clingy, selfish shitstain of an older sister. Congratulations on taking away all of his development on what it means to make his own decisions and to not let other people influence him no matter how much they mean to him.Can't wait for Mabel's reaction when Dipper goes to college. That finale and everything about how they handled the apprenticeship is so fucking retarded why can't the show have ended the moment Ford stepped through the portal.
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>>82820198
sauce pls?
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>>82843582
Dipci-no, you know what all ship names with Dipper containing the first names sound like shit. Dipcifica, as perfect as it is, will never have a good ship name.
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>>82842139

the autism has spread to russia too

http://tsapiko.tumblr.com/post/144346405340/our-reverse-pines-performance-full-video-on
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>>82840950
That ending hit me hard.
Fat pussy will always be remembered.
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>>82844265
The fucking

LE BRONS
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thanks for for the pictures so far, friends.

all dippers are welcome
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>>82844124
>>82844157
Source. Where is the motherfucking source?
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>>82844408
/gfg/. Boybox and Dominica respectively, as I recall.
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>>82843886
http://m.imgur.com/a/2dxvD
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>>82844408

Look on the booru, friend.
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>>82844650
This is bad, and you should feel bad for sharing it.
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>>82843470
true, I love their snarkiness especially in this scene
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Look for "Will Success Spoil Alex Hirsch?" in theaters in 2022, after his fatal overdose
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>>82844757

At least a few episodes of Pacifica hanging out with the twins would have been nice.
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>>82830533
>/pol/
>not /r9k/
we just want to raise a healthy family free from kike influence
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>>82845557
Yeah, it would have been fun to see her and Dipper have some more Mr & Mrs Smith moments
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>>82845647
>Wants to be healthy
>Is on 4chan
Good joke.
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>>82844070

There's a video for it.

http://deadlyflames.tumblr.com/post/144347635573/tsapiko-our-reverse-pines-performance-full

vk.com video-91205841_456239038
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>>82845557
Tbh I've never felt her and Mabel had much of a dynamic or even chemistry, my hate of Mabel aside. All of their actions together seemed so bland to me.
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>>82845801
touche
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>>82829975

He made this, too.
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>>82819811

>That last panel.

FUCK YOU DIPPER ESCAPISM IS A NATURAL RESPONSE!

I would rather live in a pretend world then slowly die in a real one.
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>>82844716
Pussy.
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>>82846108
Shut up, mabel
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>>82845845
Neat
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>>82820270
No more comments from the beta gallery
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>>82820270

That scene was such bullshit. The whole conflict the whole series was wanting to grow up too fast vs. not wanting to grow up at all. What the fuck is this out-of-left-field "Reality vs. Fantasy" bullshit?
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>>82820689
If he just made Mabel an idealized sister it might be a bit boring, but at least it wouldn't be this grating.
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>>82847466
It wasn't as bad at first as it eventually got.
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>>82847702
I feel that it wasn't so much not as bad, is it was easier to rationalize away.
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>>82826642

In terms of selfishness it's probably (from most selfish to least selfish)

Ford > Mabel > Dipper > Stan
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>>82835732
This picture is truly a thing of beauty.
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>>82848754
That's so incredibly wrong.
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>>82848754
Ranking Stan at the bottom is wrong. He is selfish. Outside his guilt about his brother, he knows no boundaries, respect for other people or honest work.
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