Civil War Thread (Spoilers) #4
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>>82537196
I wanna have sex with Black Widow's hair
Is that weird
ANTS
>>82540306
Rumlow's all about pain. He wanted her to suffer.
So am I allowed to say that I didn't think this movie was amazing or will I get crucified for it?
>>82540354
One ant can carry 3 cookies, huh. Just for, uh, the sake of um, research, how many cakes would you estimate a colony could carry away?
>>82540396
That's the general opinion, so it's fine It was good but not great.
>>82540308
The Captain costume when?
>>82540404
About 40
>>82540404
Wrong movie Lex.
>>82540404
40 at the very least.
>>82540343
I'd rather have sex with Wanda's everything
>>82540404
just shy of four dozen
might be closer to three dozen
it's hard to tell
>Avengers
>Clint has almost no screen time and when he's on the screen he's a Mind Gem zombie
>Winter Soldier
>Clint is based as fuck and gets really nice chemistry with the Maximoff twins/get to see husband Clint/dad Clint
>Civil War
>Clint even more badass
Will Dadeye be even cooler in Infinity War?
>>82540343
>that woman in the back looking at dat ass
>>82540457
Maybe if they can stop him from aging like bad milk.
He definitely had the tired dad look down in this movie.
>>82540452
>>82540449
40 or so? That's just terrifying.
>>82540457
You mean Age of Ultron, not Winter Soldier.
And Hawkeye was fucking insufferable in that movie. Him and his faggot kids and his gay farm.
If they hadn't spent THE ENTIRE MOVIE playing up the "Hawkeye's gonna die" joke I might have liked him.
>>82540442
>>82540449
That's not good. Not horrible, but not awful. Somewhere inbetween.
>>82540496
This. I didn't fucking care about his family at all.
I hated Pietro died for this shit.
>>82540343
Actually it's extremely normal
Did anyone else think Cap and his argument just seemed entirely forced in this movie? "The nations of the world have decided that they're not all that cool with us just showing up, wrecking shit, and leaving, so we can only operate under the sanction of a global U.N. Council" seemed pretty damn reasonable.
>>82540082
>you will never be Anthony Burch
Thanks anon, I needed this after my week
>>82540539
Because the U.N. has historically been super effective at preventing catastrophe or doing anything useful at all
>>82540539
It falls apart when you realize that the security council was perfectly fine with just firing a nuke at NYC in Avengers, but is hot and bothered over 100-something deaths instead?
>>82540343
It's one of her best, after the awful look of the TWS one, and the hit-or-miss short cut.
>>82540539
I don't think Cap was wrong. He made a very good point of what if there's something they can do to help but the UN says no, or vice versa?
The government is corrupt and everyone is out for some political agenda.
>>82540457
>>82540496
For some reason people go on and on about how we need a Black Widow movie when it's Hawkeye who has received the least attention and screen time of the original six.
>>82540561
I mean, the Avengers weren't doing such a great job of that themselves.
>POST YFW GIANT MAN
>>82540576
>Saved the Earth from an alien invasion
>Saved the earth from a killer robot
>Apparently spent the time between WS and AoU crushing Hydra cells
>>82540343
I didn't hear any of the dialogue between her and Stark when they were standing on that balcony. My mind was 100% focused on that fucking thigh gap.
>>82540539
It's deliberately one of those things where there's no yes/no right/wrong answer.
The idea behind the accords is mostly right, but Cap's disagreements aren't invalid.
Likewise Cap is right about a lot of things, but the people questioning him and pointing out that he's wrong in some ways, are also not wrong.
>>82540539
Wasn't there a line when Steve said the only reason Tony is supporting it is because if something goes wrong, it won't weigh on his conscious as much?
>>82540539
I'd rather have superheroes show up and wreck shit to stop an alien invasion than let the UN handle it anyway.
And unless the Accords have a provision about restricting AI research it doesn't even address the Avengers' biggest blunder.
>>82540535
Just watch X-Men Apocalypse
>>82540539
The part that bugs me is like, the Avengers didnt stick around to help at all? As soon as Ultron was dead they peaced out? Id always figured they helped rebuild somewhat or atcleast save anyone else that needed saving real quick.
>Help Im dying! This beam is crushing my lungs!
>Yeah well, the big bad is dead, so Im clocking out...
>>82540423
Not it's not.
>>82540617
Please dont. The shitposting finally quieted down from the last thread.
Thoughts on the new Spider Man in one word.
Why did they call the villain Zemo? Won't that make it confusing if they ever use Zemo?
Why did they call the villain Zemo? Won't that make it confusing if they ever use Zemo?
>>82540539
Governments have failed him before.
Governments have agendas, and he can't stand that bureaucracy.
He is.explicit while arguing with Tony, and I happen to agree when we're dealing with a world with evil organizations.
>tfw you liked Tony/Pepper and now never get to see them in movies
At least Rhodes has stuck with Tony. But I miss Tony's supporting cast. I feel like he's lost the most.
>>82540651Spectacular.
>>82540651
Forced
How do you justify Cap being more in the right than Ironman?
>>82540634
How much longer before Anthony Russo stops making "X will die in Stan Lee's lifetime" threads?
>>82540651
awesome
>>82540651
Fuck that limit.
His characterization was perfect but fuck that voice
>B- b- b- but that's how fifteen year olds sound!
If you guys want I can dig up videos of me and my friends from high school. Tom Holland just sounds like a girl.
>>82540673
I think that one of the biggest reasons that he was in the movie at all is that Marvel wanted to see what their idea of Spider Man would actually look like on screen.
>>82540651
He'shome
>>82540651
AUNT MAY IS SEXY
FUCK YOU AND YOUR ONE WORD
>>82540625
Too young, not Slav and beefcake enough.
>>82540689
It's a Cap movie, therefore it's showing more of his perspective on the issue. Hypothetically, if it was Iron Man: Civil War, it would probably be skewed more towards Tony's side
>>82540713
He was an advertisement.
>>82540712
That is how fifteen year olds sound. Go outside.
>>82540712
>Fuck that limit
what
>>82540539
Might have been reasonable if you ignore the fact that in most of the previous movies those governments have been shown to be thoroughly infiltrated by enemy organizations.
>>82540712
If you were the type of fifteen year-old who took videos of himself, I can assure you we don't care to see them.
>>82540576
>saved NYC from alien invasion
>saved millions from being annihilated in seconds by HYDRA
>saved countless lives from perishing when Sokovia fell
Yes, people have died in all these events.
It's nowhere near the amount of people that would've perished had they not acted.
>>82540743
I know you're in high school so your perception is warped but only kids who had a problem in puberty sound like that. They very easily could have gotten a teenager that sounded like the consistent Spider-Man voice style we've had for thirty years
So any idea if it's worth watching this film in 3D or not?
>>82540749
I'm just waiting to see it in Black Panther.
>"King T'challa, I have something to say to you."
>"Yes, my most trusted of royal advisors."
>"Hail Hydra."
Every fucking time.
>>82540749
This. For YEARS apparently the world security council was A-OK with SHIELD protecting the world from weird shit but then it turns out SHIELD was corrupt on the very highest levels.
So after being used before, why would Cap want to put himself at the beck and call of more politicians?
>>82540776
I saw it in 3D and XD. No, it's not worth it for 3D
>>82540749
just like real life
>>82540730
What a waste of a perfectly beautiful Quickslav.
>>82540773
Yeah, probably in the 1960's.
I always wanted Cap to end up with waitress girl from the first avengers movie but Sharon is good too you know(maybe better). She had the right amount of time in WS to set up her character and after that in Civil War ended up being cute as fuck
>>82540761
To be fair, Sokovia was all fucking Tony's fault to begin with.
>>82540740
I felt like a lot of the emotional weight of the movie was skewed in Tony's favor, even though I was Team Cap going in and out. It felt like Steve's own movie got hijacked out from under him. As an Avengers movie I loved it, but as the final in the Cap sequel I felt a bit robbed it explored Tony's character more than Steve.
>Martin Freeman appears
>just acts like Martin Freeman
>>82540773
>I know you are currently surrounded by teenagers, so you obviously don't know what they sound like
Nigga am I reading this correctly
>>82540776
Unless it's a nature/space documentary being shown in a legitimate IMAX theater, nothing is worth 3D. It makes everything dark and blurry, and the fight scenes in this must look absolutely terrible with all that extra added blur
>>82540796
OK, thought as much.
>>82540776
>is _______ worth seeing in 3D
no
I actually liked T'Challa in this movie
Fight me
>>82540822
>High schoolers
>Having perception
Oh, you're sweet.
Does Captain America not know what a compromise is?
>>82540821
>Everett appears in Doctor Strange
>>82540830
Not to mention, the giant city titles was annoying as fuck. It was even worse in 3D
>>82540808
THIS.
I hate how they literally never even mention Ultron in this movie.
It's Sokovia this and Sokovia that, but no one ever raises their hand and says "Hey, remember how Tony went and created an evil robot? And yet now he's telling us WE need policing?
Why did Tony face literally ZERO repercussion for nearly destroying the earth?
>>82540637
They do rescue efforts. Immediately after the explosion in this one they call paramedics and shit, and Cap was going to search the building.
We just don't see the aftermath because we are following a personal narrative.
>>82540714
>Sam and Bucky will never be your bros
>>82540740
>Iron Man: Civil War
>Tony's proposals sound reasonable, because the general directly tells him on screen that the world security council will basically turn the Avengers into living weapons that are imprisoned anyway
>Steve is intentionally obtuse and pontificates on ideals and values to the point that they aren't even grounded in reality
>refuses to take a pragmatic stance on anything, everything is just as clear cut and black and white as it was in 1944
>to add insult to injury, he is constantly taking jabs at Tony
>Hey Tony, where's pepper? She pregnant yet?
>Hey Tony, remember how I had a better relationship with your dad than you did?
>Hey Tony, this is my friend Bucky. He's the guy that beat your dad's face until it was concave and strangled your mom to death
Being Tony is suffering
>>82540846
>I have the same opinion 99% of the people who saw this film have
>fight me
>>82540730
A Speedster in the MCU would be so cool. I fucking hate you Whedon
>>82540457
I need a replica of his rad as shit bow from Civil War that turns into that blade-staff whateverthefuck. That was amazing.
>>82540846
T'Challa was GOAT, mang. No one is arguing this.
I loved his fight style and his mannerisms.
>>82540821
>Martin Freeman wasn't Henry Peter Gyrich
What a waste.
I thought the shakey-cam whenever Black Widow was fighting to distract from her being bad made the movie almost painful to watch. Not like it was bad, I mean like my eyes literally got sore.
>>82540661
Thats the point....Tony's lost everything except Rhodes after AOU. The guy who stood up in front of congress and said "Fuck you guys muh suit." is now Looking for someway to help make up for what he has done...Makes you feel for tony though he did it him self.
>>82540846
But that's the correct opinion
Slightly off topic but you ever wonder how Peter Quill would react to all this crazy shit happening on earth?
>Me and Tom Holland are the same age
>While he's off being Spider-Man
>I'm a NEET
>>82540855
I'm an adult, yet it'd only take a toddler to point out how dumb your arguments are.
>>82540871
desu I can't remember if it was ever stated that the public knew that Iron Man made Ultron
>>82540689
>How do you justify Cap being more in the right than Ironman?
I don't think he is. And I say that as someone who loves Cap.
>>82540846
T'Challa was so based.
>>82540846
Black Panther was OP as fuck.
Also
>Get's shot in the fucking head by automatic gunfire and literally doesn't even flinch
>Get's shocked a bit by Blck Widow, down for the count
>>82540886
I'm a unique snowflake
>>82540922
Don't let your dreams be dreams.
>>82540885
You're talking like the jabs were intentional. Steve didn't know about Pepper and Steve obviously remembers Howard Stark fondly. Steve is a boy scout. When he says "I'm always honest" he's not bullshitting. He's basically what cinematic Superman should be.
>>82540919
Like Ant-Man but with space jargon.
>>82540919
He wouldn't care. He'd be too excited over the fact that Weird Al is still a thing since he left.
>>82540866
Oh my god, let this happen. Please.
So in the Civil War comics, did Tony already figure out that Spidey was Peter? I just kinda thought that was weird that Tony already figured it out in the movie and yet no one else on either team knows yet.
>>82540901
It seemed like they were trying to use different camera styles for different power levels. The street level guys got the Bourne-esque shaky cam shots, the more powerful and faster heroes got the wide, sweeping perspective shots to show them flying or swinging or whatever.
>>82540871
Not to mention, the uprising of bad guys happened after Tony announced himself as Iron Man.
Vision even said that himself and no one fought him on that.
Tony was just covering his own ass.
>>82540846
So did everyone else, ace.
>>82540938
I'm pretty sure Vibranium conducts electricity.
>>82540539
With the exception of the fight at the beginning of the movie, every one of those situations would have been infinitely worse if the Avengers hadn't intervened. New York would have been nuked/taken over by Loki, Hydra would have killed millions of people, and Ultron would have wiped out humanity. It's actually pretty ridiculous how low the Avengers managed to keep civilian casualties.
>>82540876
Does Tony pay for any repairs or buildings or reperations to victims? He'll pay for a whole room of fuckwit MIT students whatever so I'm hoping he's helping out elsewhere too.
>>82540970
I was going to point out Cap being defrosted and whatnot but I like your answer too much
>>82540964
I'm framing it like if it were an Iron Man-centric movie. What those scenes would look like from his perspective.
>>82540922
>tfw the same age as Jennifer Lawrence
>>82540807
I'm of a handful of people that felt the kiss served a purpose.
I doubt we'll see more of her, though.
>>82540595
>>82540972
Please no, the Johnlock would make me vomit.
>>82540997
He bought that building before he destroyed it in AOU. Must be convenient to have a lot of money to throw at damage like that. The mom at the beginning had a point.
>>82540891
Speaking of which, does anyone have a theatercam gif/webm of this?
>>82540990
Rumlow would have been in possession of a biological weapon as well.
>>82540990
It's actually pretty funny how low the casualty counts were for those catastrophic events. Didn't less than 1000 people die in the Battle of New York? Anyone have the caps?
>>82540927
One of the Avengers should've brought it up. I mean Tony is taking one of his actions (which he deliberately hid from the team because he knew they wouldn't approve) and using it to justify putting restraints on the whole team.
I know Cap wouldn't mention it because he's too good a guy, but I sort of expected someone like Hawkeye to say something about it.
>>82540808
To be fair, Sokovia was also Wanda's fault.
And Hydra's too for that matter.
>>82541025
The what now?
>>82540990
This.
People are fucking stupid. Even with the bomb that Wanda deflected, there was hundreds of people on that crowded street, plus they stole a biological weapon.
That shit could have gotten so much worse.
>>82541025
Your suffering would make it even better for me.
>>82541036
Well then I guess we're 4 for 4 here.
>>82540815
Nah, to me it felt 100% Cap focused
>>82540871
Stark mentions it. His guilt is his motivation. I think he agrees that it's weird that he got off basically scott free, and part of him is glad that that woman blames him for her son's death and that the Accords are a thing. Funding college projects only does so much to ease guilt
>>82540970
>implying Weird Al isn't currently in deep space in the MCU
>>82540922
>>82541018
>tfw same age as Mace Dindu from TFA
So clearly all this civil war plot stuff is gonna be put on hold till Infiinty War probably right? No way they will mention any MCU stuff during Doctor Strange (or at least not till the end) and no doubt GotG 2 will maybe end with them going to earth for some reason and/or Thanos heading to Earth to set up Infinty War.
Funniest moment in the movie?
>Spidey's shit talking Falcon and WS
>Falcon's drone flies by
>Spidey thwips it by accident
>Get's swung out the window
>AUUUUUUGHHH!
>Crossbones hyped up a shitton
>dies 10 minutes in
WHY
>>82541040
This was part of my issue with the movie. The whole thing is so utterly contrived. They have to act like these three isolated incidents were giant massacres or something to justify leaching the Avengers
>>82541042
Hawkeye wasn't there when they discussed the Accords. His first appearance was at the compound to break Wanda out.
>>82541019
I really would like to see her more.
Cap's needs some loving
>>82540846
Only butthurt contrarians would disagree.
>>82541080
What was the point of suiciding anyways since he's just a merc now
>>82541066
>First scene with Tony LITERALLY has him reliving the last moment he ever saw his parents alive
>Civil War WASN'T emotionally biased towards Tony
Did we watch the same movie?
>>82540922
>tfw I'm the same age as Chris Hemsworth
Thank God I don't have kids. Fuck that.
>>82541062
Well Ultron would never have happened without Tony and Banner so 3 for 4. Also the part where Ross asked where Thor and Hulk were was dumb as shit. Thor went home at the end of AOU and Tony and Cap both know this.
>>82541098
Revengaaaaa
>>82541080
Because Zemo - despite being the best MCU villain so far - is basically impossible to hype. Anything about him you could stick in a promotional trailer would seem weird and out of place compared to SPECTACLE SPECTACLE DRAMA.
>>82540714
>getting 3 caps for 1 price
>>82541083
>They have to act like these three isolated incidents were giant massacres or something to justify leaching the Avengers
Ross listed a lot more incidents than just Avengers/TWS/AOU, even not including the multiple ones in CW itself
>>82541067
Yeah, So after all this time Tony decides to grow a conscience but instead of like, trying to make ammends for his own fuck ups he decides the best course of action is to put the rest of the Avengers under his thumb
>>82541083
Didn't Tony directly have a part in setting up the accords, though? I feel like the whole thing was driven by his personal guilt more-so than the actual amount of damage caused.
>>82541049
Two uglies bumping uglies
>>82541019
>I'm of a handful of people that felt the kiss served a purpose.
There was a purpose - the Disney execs ordered it.
The actors nor the Russos were happy about that shoe horned scene. They even agreed they should've had a better build up.
You can look it up.
>>82540570
It is the best IMO
>>82540462
White girl got da booty
>>82540457
By Infinity War 2 he will be the coolest character in the universe
>>82540651
Holyshit
>>82540661
I love Cheadle as Rhodey, I wish we got another film that focused on the two of them but way better than IM2. Just two hours of IM2's finale.
>>82541136
No, he said
>New York
>Washington
>Sokovia
>Nigeria
>>82541166
>source: My Ass Magazine
>>82540539
>Did anyone else think Cap and his argument just seemed entirely forced in this movie? "The nations of the world have decided that they're not all that cool with us just showing up, wrecking shit, and leaving, so we can only operate under the sanction of a global U.N. Council" seemed pretty damn reasonable.
You didn't notice that it was all for show, and the REAL person in charge is Ross? The UN is just going to do what ever Ross says. The UN isn't going to ever get to decide anything when the US of A can throw its weight around and have he control over ALL of the Avengers in the Accord.
>>82541166
>Whedon gets forced to add something
>he fucks everything up
>Russos get forced to add something
>turn it into the best visual gag of the movie
Based
>>82541169
IM2/TWS > the rest
>>82541111
Last scenes of the movie were Tony handling Rhodey's injuries and getting a letter from Steve. Steve breaking the Avengers out of the prison was a quick implied shot rather than showing any of them interacting or escaping. He doesn't even say anything to Sam while we have a great "I still support the Accords I knew what I was getting into" moment with Rhodey. Cap and his supporting cast really did get cut short.
>>82541046
Maybe after attacking that base just for a staff they shouldn't have left a super science laboratory completely unattended for their killer robot to turn into a personal factory.
>>82541085
Yeah, I was thinking more when Tony visited him in the raft. I understand why the point was never touched on in an "in movie" sense, as none of the characters who would say it were in the right place at the right time, but it seems strange from a meta perspective that it was completely avoided.
>>82541083
>>82541136
I think the real reason is country doesn't appreciate foreigner messing about without their consent.
Collateral damage was just an excuse.
>>82541130
>despite being the best MCU villain so far
Do people actually think this?
He is a completely hollow, nothing character and his "master plan" relies 100% on circumstances he has absolutely no way of controlling.
>>82541195
Nigga you gay
>>82541169
I still think she's sexiest in IM2.
>>82541117
Ultron was born from the same micro managing bullshit Tony was supporting with the accords. Stark didn't learn a damn thing from AoU.
>>82541228
Nice meme criticisms
Try having an original thought sometime
>>82541132
We better get this in the MCU. The actors have such a great dynamic going.
>>82541257
>He disagrees with me
>But I'm so smart, and have all the best opinions
>He must be doing it specifically to antagonize me
Get over yourself
>>82541257
>meme criticisms
Either kill yourself or go back to /tv/.
Not him, btw.
>>82541256
>Ultron was born from the same micro managing bullshit Tony was supporting with the accords.
Can you explain your logic here because you sound fucking bananas.
>>82541191
Actually pretty embarrassing how much better Winter Soldier and Civil War are compared to Avengers 1 and 2.
>>82540714
I honestly hope this becomes a meme.
10/10 wingmen.
Wanda is best girl.
>>82540871
except for that time tony said he created ultron and it was his fault when he was talking about pepper leaving him.
>>82540990
>With the exception of the fight at the beginning of the movie
Not even. It seems Wanda can't contain the full explosion, just delay it.
If she hadn't done anything, it would've killed Steve and the very crowded surroundings (the fight took place in a street market).
14 people in a building was lucky.
Though if she had moved him towards empty air maybe none would've died.
>>82541283
>>82541284
Samefag
>>82541228
I agree but you're probably gonna get shit on.
>Nations of the World decide that they would like to have a say on the actions of the ragtag group of metahumans and pals who regularly go barreling into sovereign nations to disperse justice as they see fit, and leaving the local governments to clean up the billions in property damage and dozens-to-countless citizen casualties
>"NO TONI, U MOVE"
This movie made it hard to sympathize with Cap. Like, I could UNDERSTAND his motivations. I just couldn't sympathize with them.
>>82541285
Tony was like "HEY EVERYONE WHAT IF I MADE AN AI OUT OF THIS INFINITY STONE"
And everyone else was like "Tony that is such a bad idea don't do that"
But then Tony just did it anyway because he always has to be right about everythinh
>Tumblr having a fit over Cap and Sharon making out
>>82541299
Bitch made mother fucker
Good movie but the final fight between Tony and Steve felt unnecessary.
>YOU DON'T DESERVE THAT SHIELD! MY DAD MADE IT!
>>82541228
>his "master plan" relies 100% on circumstances he has absolutely no way of controlling
>>82540539
The UNs policy usually gravitated towards "strongly worded letter" or at worst "trade sanction". They can't deal with ongoing, nonsuperpowered genocide, how the hell could the UN handle fast developing situations like, robo-genocide and Hydra warcrime aircraft carriers
>>82540539
If it was just that sigining the accords made them have to answer to the UN while still operating independently it would be different ( in control in name only) . Instead the UN wanted a Superpowered strikeforce with red tape.
>>82540997
Yes, he does. It's mentioned in dialog in AoU.
The thing is that people will always die in these events, and no amount of money will compensate the families of those that do.
So we got Abed in the Winter Soldier and now Dean Pelton in Civil War. If they get Joel McHale to play as Starfox in Infinity Name-to-be-Decided I'm gonna flip the fuck out
>>82541285
Tony made Ultron because of his paranoia. The accords are a result of the world's paranoia. All things considered the Avengers were operating fine with the freedom they had.
>>82541323
>Chris Evans having a fit over Cap and Sharon making out
Any good recent Marvel books to jump into? Poe Dameron good?
>>82540714
My smile at this point was genuine. 10/10 positive feels.
>>82541332
>YOU DON'T DESERVE THAT SHIELD! MY DAD MADE IT!
That is exactly the sort of thing you'd expect a butthurt Tony Stark to say after he got his ass kicked by Captain America.
>Tony's side signs the deal
>Tony: I need eyes on x, x, and y.
>Ross: Fuck you Tony, you should be in jail!
>Tony: This deal gets worse all the time
So was the movie trying to tell us signing that deal was mostly bad? Cause that's what it seems like to me. Plus it may make things hard going into Infinity War
>>82541318
More:
Tony was like "HEY EVERYONE WHAT IF I MADE AN AI OUT OF THIS INFINITY STONE"
And then he didn't even bother to mention it to anyone else because he didn't have time for their opinions.
>>82540749
>most of the previous movies those governments have been shown to be thoroughly infiltrated by enemy organizations
So why the fuck should anyone in the Marvel universe trust the Avengers? What makes them so incorruptible?
What's to say that ten, twenty, thirty years down the line, their organization isn't just as corrupt and dangerous? You can say "Well, they'll deal with it then", but if they follow Cap's rules, they're setting up the precedent for the Avengers to be neigh untouchable.
>>82541315
What's not to get?
The "nations of the world" have their own agendas, they would say "no you can't go here, we're making you go here instead", they would never understand something like saving Bucky, etc.
>muh property damage
Is there a single instance where the damage wouldn't be much worse without the Avengers? If they hadn't stopped Crossbones and his team they would have a biological weapon.
>>82541332
Unneces- Nigga, there's a two and a half hour build up to them losing it and throwing down. It's like the emotional orgasm.
>>82541042
Tony himself is bringing it up.
>>82540714
That got the biggest laugh of anything in my theater. Every guy has had a bro moment like that.
>>82541356
Anything Star Wars written by Soule is great.
>>82540714
>tfw you realize Bucky waited 100 years to see his bro get to first base
I am really glad that in the absence of a lot of superhumans to make the SHRA make sense they rewrote the conflict to be much more personal in nature.
>>82540887
Hes just resting right guys? He'll be back.
>>82541346
No you fool, Joel McHale needs to reprise his greatest role
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOdFm38XHss
>>82541346
>Dean's plan is about hot dogs
>"We'll ketchup later"
>>82541369
Because the Avengers choose to risk their lives time and time again to save the world. The UN and other politicians sitting behind the safety of their desks talking about how they should have done it better.
Honestly, the world won't deserve the Secret Avengers saving their asses in Infinity Wars, and yet they're going to do it anyway for the 0 thanks they get in return.
>>82541323
>Hey, I know we just buried your aunt and the government is down my neck but let's fuck
>>82541111
>Bucky
>Peggy
>the Avengers, who are basically family
It seems we did not. Steve also went through a lot.
>>82541428
They probably both wanted to bang since they first met, c'mon
>>82540308
Ross: "Okay Stark you have 36 hours to apprehend the Winter Soldier"
Tony: *Takes a leisurely trip to New York to flirt with some milf and blackmail a teenager into fighting a dangerous criminal, then has to manufacture a suit for Spider-Man"
Gee, what a stellar plan, Tony.
>>82540714
Sam and Bucky had some great dynamics in the movie
Alright, lets take Tony out of the big picture here. No more bias.
Do you guys really think the Avengers should have free reign after the shit they've pulled and could possibly pull? You wouldn't want them answering to someone?
>>82541396
>Steve, just like we practiced.
>>82541362
Cap is right that most politicians are fucking idiots. Tony is right that they fuck up hard on a regular basis and they have to win the public back. There is no right answer, and because of fucking panther they couldn't compromise.
>>82541428
Considering it IS Steve, I wouldn't blame her
>>82541256
Winter Soldier basically represents the accords taken to their extreme where the government has absolute control over the individual, and Stark's response to that was still to put all the blame on the soldier because "Muh mom."
>>82541372
>Is there a single instance where the damage wouldn't be much worse without the Avengers?
>>82541323
why? They're cute as fuck
>>82541332
Like 20 minutes earlier:
>I've figured it out! Bucky has been brainwashed and framed. He's not technically responsible... I'm gonna help 'em!
20 minutes later:
>I've figured it out! Bucky was brainwashed, and was used as a tool to kill my parents. He's not technically responsible... I'm gonna kill 'em!
toni no
>>82541445
Take Tony out of the picture and what shit did the Avengers pull?
>>82541441
Sounds perfectly in character.
>>82541445
>not trusting Captain America completely
>>82541461
That's all on Tony, not the Avengers.
>>82541392
Literally the "Can you move your seat up" line was the first genuine laugh out of the crowd.
Most of the jokes in this movie fell flat.
>>82541450
Why's his hair so long?
>>82541445
I do want them answering to someone.
His name is Steve Rogers.
>>82541446
>"He said Bucky and suddenly, I was a 16 year old kid in Brooklyn again"
>>82541445
>Do you guys really think the Avengers should have free reign after the shit they've pulled and could possibly pull?
considering they reduced 8,200,000+ deaths that would have been caused by government entities down to like 300 between Avengers 1 and Winter Soldier, yeah, they should.Still think someone should kill Tony though. Seriously.
>>82541466
>people get more emotional and less logical when the death of their parents is involved
Shocker
>>82541476
Your crowd sounds gay.
>>82541466
Anon, humans are not always rational beings. Dude was pissed. And really, outside of Cap, who would give a fuck if Bucky died? Dude's probably got a bounty on his head in 30 countries.
>>82541477
Try this one
>>82541176
More are shown on the global map, just not brought up before Cap forces Ross to move on
>>82541477
It's his death rattle. He's shaking his head super fast
>>82541473
>That's all on Tony, not the Avengers.
Tony created the damn Avengers. And it still shows what one of them can do when they have unlimited power and are convinced they have the right idea.
It was Tony in Age of Ultron, but they all have the same sort of blank checks to do as they please.
>>82541315
Secretary Ross subtly amping up his power over the Avengers as time passed not to mention the fucking Raft illustrate what was wrong with oversight.
Granted, I agree with the criticism that the film doesn't do Cap's side proper justice, especially because it breezes over possibly the biggest problem. For all this talk of violation of sovereignty, a privately run Avengers is far, far more likely to respect sovereignty than one that can be used by the UN to attack any sovereign nation that the dominant powers within the UN decide aren't "sovereign nations."
Look what how great the concept of "sovereignty" protected Iraq and Libya.
>>82541413
Of course he's coming back Wanda, don't worry.
>>82541491
This.
Remember when the UN's plan to stop the Alien invasion was to LAUNCH A NUCLEAR WARHEAD AT MANHATTAN?
And you want those fucking idiots in charge of the Avengers?
>>82541372
And the avengers have their own agendas also.
Who watches the watchmen?
The UN is at least comprised of actual people who have jurisdiction and know more than the avengers on what the best thing for their countries is.
YOU DON'T DESERVE THAT SHIELD!
MY FATHER MADE IT!!!
>>82541458
Exactly, the Winter Soldier and the 5 frozen soldiers are a perfect example of the weapons that these heroes become in the wrong hands. Bucky is the ultimate controlled individual and he's more dangerous for it because he has no choice, not more safe or "accountable".
>>82541482
IF TONY HAD ACTUALLY DONE AS STEVE TOLD HIM IN AGE OF ULTRON, NONE OF THIS BULLSHIT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.
>>82541461
That was Tony's fault initially. If the Avengers didn't get involved, the alternative would be "Global extinction"
>>82541445
I think that the context matters because consider that the originally had SHIELD oversight. Shield and the World Security Council. But whoops! Turns out SHIELD wasn't just corrupt, it was double nazi corrupt! And the World Security Council thought "Hey let's nuke Manhattan. No big deal, right?" so they don't exactly have a lot of ground to stand on when it comes to talking about collateral damage.
Then literally in this movie a single guy is able to infiltrate the UN's big task force with what? Glasses and makeup?
Oversight would be a great idea in theory but the overwatchers so far are have been established as either evil, or incompetent. Even in the absolute best case scenario they'd be obtrusive bureaucrats and that's not much better when the clock to armageddeon is ticking.
Do I want the Avengers answering to someone? Yeah. But who deserves the right to be the one they answer to? Nobody yet.
>>82541166
Whatever you say, brah.
I like the kiss nontheless. Its akward and forced, yes. That's the point. It's just Steve taking a chance that both he and Sharon will go nowhere with the path he is about to take.
I felt sad after it happened.
>>82541445
Hell yes. Those government fucks let SHIELD do what they want on top of that, Hydra was a sleeper cell for decades.
>>82541537
The entire thing is just a way for Tony to try and dispose of his guilt because he's too much of a fucking coward to live with his mistakes.
>>82541530
>The UN is at least comprised of actual people who have jurisdiction and know more than the avengers on what the best thing for their countries is
>>82541527
>Remember when the UN's plan to stop the Alien invasion was to LAUNCH A NUCLEAR WARHEAD AT MANHATTAN?
>>82541508
>Tony created the damn Avengers.
You mean Nick Fury
>>82541568
That's the world security council.
The UN hasn't done anything until now.
>>82541527
apparently the UN isn't the world security council. Which begs the question who the fuck appointed the world security council, but whatever. Don Cheadle got crippled, so we'll let it slide.
>>82541169
CIvil War is the best. I prefer the short hair over straight and curly.
>>82541466
Honestly, I wouldn't be able to forgive him either. I know he didn't have a choice but deep down that's impossible to get past.I had this same moral quandary after watching How To Train Your Dragon 2
MUH AVENGERS CAUSE DESTRUCTION is just shitty governments trying to shift the blame
Avengers 1: Without the Avengers, either Loki would have succeeded (world now ruled by aliens) or New York would be nuked (millions dead).
Winter Soldier: Without Cap and friends, HYRDA would have killed millions in a few minutes. A few busted helicarriers in the river is a pretty good trade.
Avengers 2: Ultron and his damage is all on Tony so blame him. Without the rest of the Avengers the entire world would be dead.
>>82541508
Nah, they're not batshit insane like he is.
>>82541530
Their agenda is to kick ass and save people. works for me.
>who watches the watchmen
Captain America.
>The UN
>know more
l m a o
Reading posts in this thread in the Mr. Plinkett voice is extremely entertaining
>>82541533
BIG GUY CRUSH A PLANE WITH NO SURVIVORS
Seems like Tony never had a dog in this fight. I'm surprised anyone stayed on his team.
>>82541369
If necessary they can always replace the Avengers with a new group of totally trustworthy guys.
>>82541445
bring back coulson and shield. Captain America will trust Nick Fury and Coulson with the important decision.
Trusting Ross is idiotic.
I mean. Tony is kind of an idiot all the time. I'm still getting over that BULLSHIT from Iron Man 3 where he challenges a terrorist with his home address for NO god damn reason.
>mfw people in this thread trust the government more than Captain Steve Rogers
top kek
>>82541599
What did she mean by this?
>>82541602
Rhodey is still an active service member who always believed in giving power to authority. Vision is Tony's butler. Peter is poor.
>>82540846
>avoided /co/ for some time to avoid spoilers
>didn't see his actor
>finally see him and he's fucking sexy
A lot of women also found him attractive apparently
We need an updated version of this comic to reflect the CW cast.
>>82541508
Tony didn't even want to be on the Avengers
>>82541594
>Captain America
Yeah he totally prevented Tony from making a horrible decision like creating Ultron.
>l m a o
It's true and no amount of meming's gonna change that.
>>82541514
>Secretary Ross subtly amping up his power over the Avengers as time passed not to mention the fucking Raft illustrate what was wrong with oversight.
That represents that Ross is wrong, not that the Accords and what they set out to achieve are.
As Tony and Nat both pitched to Steve, the Accords aren't set in stone, they can work within them to smooth out the problems over time, as opposed to fighting them leading to the Accords being put in place by force and in worse ways (such as people ending up in ocean based super prisons)
>>82541627
It's pure pride and emotional distress that made him do that. He was upset Happy was hurt, and he's motherfucking Iron Man, and he thinks there's no way the Mandarin has the balls to actually attack him.
He backpedals immediately after by upping security at his house.
I honestly can buy both Steve's and Tony's motivations gue to Frienship, Family, sense of responsibility, and/or guilt.
>Bucky was more than a friend, he has Steve's big brother
>Tony has always been hunted by guilt since IM1 (Stark weapons used by the bad guys)
>Tony being irrational after seeing 1991 video is understandable, too. AND someone close knew and was hiding the fact.
BUT, 2 things stuck out like a sore thumb. SHIELD's secrets are out (Zemo used it for Bucky's [spoiler here]). This means Gen Ross' complicity to creating the Abomination is also out there; so is Natasha's past.
1) Retired Ross, basically, gets promoted to Secretary of State.
2) Ex-International Assassin Natasha is free to attend international events like an ambassador (and no one went after her).
Beforehand nobody knew about her past as an assassin. ALSO, she was a covert SHIELD agent overseen/protected by a world council.
NOW, her past is out. Remember the atrocities that Loki mentioned in Avengers 1? NOW it's out! Why aren't foreign governments asking for her head? She's an ambassador in the movie ...
But then again if Ross can be ignored and be given immunity by the US government, why not Natasha.
>>82541628
If I were a Marvel citizen, I'd definitely trust Cap more than the government after the Hydra/Shield fallout. I'd definitely trust the Avengers more than the government for trying to nuke Manhattan. I would not want the Avengers to become the military and ordered about with the history of the Marvel universe.
>>82541655
Pepper didn't want him to be on the Avengers. And now they're separated.
>>82541649
This is literally the first time I've found an African accent sexy. No homo
>>82541655
It's not entirely clear whether he did or not. He failed the psych eval so it never realy came up.
>>82540425
>original shield with Tony/the government
>Steve taking refuge in Vibranium Country
>there will soon be two shields lying around
MCU Taskmaster when?
>Tony believes he's going after three guys
>His team has Iron Man, War Machine, Vision, and Black Panther
>still blackmails and drags a 15 year old boy into the fight
>>82541637
She want someGiant-man
>>82541662
>Yeah he totally prevented Tony from making a horrible decision like creating Ultron
How dare he not stop that thing that was kept a secret from him
>>82541628
Trusting Steve implicitly doesn't mean Steve is always right.
>>82541662
Yeah because no government has every missed something before
>>82541484
Wait what?
>>82541692
Spider-Man DID NOT need to be in this movie.
>>82541685
Doesn't universal have Tasky?
>>82541668
Sure, but it was too late after the airport scene. Once Thunderbolt starts locking you in an extra-territorial black site prison, you've got literally no reason left to compromise.
>>82541668
Except the Accords say trust authority, and then the prime example of why you shouldn't is the one in charge. In theory it could be fine. With the history of the Marvel universe and the individual running it, it's a huge red flag.
>>82541698
Yeah it's just a happy coincidence that he is.
>>82541717
Best fanservice ever, if you complain you're gay
>>82541696
And that's what makes the Avengers so vulnerable. Everyone has their own agendas and they can't be controlled.
Fuck, even Avengers 1 happened because of Loki and Thor's personal feud.
>>82541555
>But whoops! Turns out SHIELD wasn't just corrupt, it was double nazi corrupt!
I lol'd super hard. Damn you double nazi corruption, you're the worst.
>>82541670
But why the fuck didn't he just activate the House Party protocol right then and there? Most of them probably would have survived, his house wouldn't have been annihilated, and Pepper would have been a whole lot safer.
Why should the Avengers get to run around and do whatever they please? Sure, they help out quite a bit, but they still can't violate international and domestic law. They need to answer to somebody, if not take orders.
>>82541735
>I lol'd super hard.
OMFG THIS!!!!!!!
Like, that was super fun, omg.
>>82541717
True. I'm still glad he was though
>>82541717
And what about him being in the movie made it worse for you?
Are you really going to complain about getting a free extra scoop of ice cream, you dork?
>>82541722
Rumors circulating saying Marvel got the rights back to Task
>>82541706
When Steve was talking to Wanda in her room. Those exact words, m8.
Bucky was either his first kiss or they fooled around.
>>82541362
Yes. The Accords are bullshit.
>the Accords are right you guys!
Captain America's point is completely proven by the person who brings the Accords to the Avengers.
Having oversight of the Avengers means people like Ross will control the most powerful beings on the planet. No thank you.
People sure like the idea of Bucky pigging out on plums don't they.
>Scott Lang
>Goes through so much trouble to stay OUT of prison because he has a daughter to take care of
>Decides to risk his life and help Cap and become a fugitive in the process, and then be imprisoned in a black site supervillain guantanamo
>Just cuz
None of the characters had any solid motivation in the movie.
>>82541698
He's still more right than the world goverments so far.
I forget. Is Shield still dead during the events of Civil War? Like they never fully recovered from Winter Solder yet?
>>82541759
Maybe if you actually paid attention to the movie you would see the motivations.
>>82541678
This is one of the few times I've found a black guy ridiculously hot enough to go gay for.
>>82541758
>plums
>not candy bars and chips like in his room
>>82541759
>>Decides to risk his life and help Cap and become a fugitive in the process
Do you really think he wouldn't answer the call to help Captain America?
>>82541758
I sure do.
>>82541672
It wouldn't surprise me Ross was absolved because Hulk is still a loose nuke, missing somewhere. And in regards to Natasha, she's had the Avengers backing her up and the accords during the week. Now she's on the run again and will be out until Avengers 3 most likely.
>>82541738
It wasn't ready. He has to ask JARVIS if it's time during the climax.
>>82541759
>"Captain America needs my help. There's no better reason to get back in."
>>82541775
SHIELD was dissolved
But that didn't stop Nick Fury from pulling a fully staffed helicarrier out of his asshole
>>82541775
>Is Shield still dead
movie MCU = yes
tv MCU - no
>>82541775
SHIELD is basically an underground resistance now. Still protecting the world but in the shadows.
>>82541752
Yeah wow that's pretty gay. It would've been one thing if he said 6 or 10 or some other age not associated with teenage boys at peak horny.
>>82540846
The one character that everyone was probably shitting on the most turned out to be one of the best.
Glad for that. Excited for the Black Panther movie
>>82541775
They're back. But they're fully focused on Inhuman shit now.
>>82541757
>Captain America's point is completely proven by the person who brings the Accords to the Avengers.
Really this. It's only because Marvel seems dead set on not mentioning Incredible Hulk that no one threw Abomination in Ross's face right then and there.
>>82541779
No I'm pretty sure Scott and Clint got shafted the hardest on this deal
>Hey mommy, where's daddy?
>What happened to the water park?
>Clint can't go home after breaking out without being found
>>82541428
That's not what the kiss is about, but whatever you say.
>>82541787
Considering his ENTIRE point as a character is that he's trying to be there for his daughter and NOT go back to prison, yes.
>Steve and Bucky almost got double action with Peggy and Dottie
Too cute
>>82541782
Same. Holy shit
>dat Bucky/T'Challa fight after he was triggered
Cap's
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uI35cmrdzI
Tony's
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hroYWMHOnNU
>>82541802
Spending all their money on hot dogs.
>>82541775
Civil War only takes Winter Soldier and Age of Ulton into account - SHIELD functionally does not exist anymore.
The new SHIELD that exists in that tv show is not referenced or recognized.
>>82541445
Not the UN, not Ross.
>>82541796
>calling Coulson an asshole
Shut your whore mouth.
>>82541813
Who was shitting on BP? Most people were like "oh that should be cool I guess" then he was fucking awesome.
>>82541818
>hey mommy, where's daddy?
>he went to help Captain America!
>Omg he's the best!
>>82541759
But Bucky killed my father/parents/other!
>Vision and Scarlet Witch are way stronger than everyone else how are they going to creatively keep them from just ending the fight in a single minute?
>>82541822
Dottie makes my dick fucking diamonds.
>>82541672
>Bucky was more than a friend, he has Steve's big brother
And now that Peggy's dead he is the only living connection Steve has to his past. That's the real reason he's so hellbent on saving Bucky. It's the one chance he has left at experiencing a "normal" life in modern times. Without Bucky Steve's entire life will just be the Avengers. His war will never end.
>>82541821
That's not the ENTIRE point of his character, that's his arc in Ant-Man.
He's still a superhero who wants to do the right thing. And he's a Cap fanboy.
IT WAS ME STEVE
>>82541840
Mostly during earlier trailers and early looks at BP's suit looked a bit off
>>82541821
Saying no to "can you help us find and stop five more powerful versions of the Winter Soldier" is not being the hero he wants to be to his daughter, or making the world safer for her.
He wasn't recruited to fight pro-Accords Avengers, that was completely unexpected and unintentional.
How come he hasn't shaved his hair?
>>82541873
>>82541826
>>82541802
>>82541752
>>82541484
>>82541446
Captain America 4: Civil Union
>>82541856
>I'll take it at face value that this random guy killed my father!
>Spend entire movie on a bloodlust revenge trip trying to murder random guy
>Find out after all that you were wrong
>lol my bad
Bucky looked kinda fat in this movie
Went from brunet Raiden to Rai-debu I guesshar har it's a Japanese pun geddit
>>82541839
Anyone got a list of Bucky's trigger words?
>>82541880
I thought it looked dope from day 1
>>82541895
What are you talking about?
>>82541867
And now he's a fugitive and can't see his daughter anymore. Boy I guess this whole adventure paid off.
>>82541878
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNgxyL5zEAk
>>82541886
what possible advantage would that give him?
>>82541861
His talk with Peggy in Winter Soldier alludes to this, too. He was almost completely disillusioned with SHIELD and his life in it, even before finding out it was hijacked by Super Nazis.
>>82541904
>Bucky looked kinda fat in this movie
Yes he did! He lost his Cap2 sexyness.
>>82541878
>It was me Steve
>It was me who... wait, I guess I didn't actually do anything in this movie until the last five minutes
>>82541917
He's fucking Ant-Man, he can do what he wants, who's gonna stop him?
He did the right thing, Cassie would understand.
>Bucky literally personally murders thousands of people (not any of that soft-ass "oh he's responsible for the circumstances that lead to people dying" crap, actual assassinations) and contributes to destabilization of the world
>"Noooo tony don't beat him up he's my frieeeeeeend"
Fuck you Cap and fuck you Bucky apologists
>>82541919
>guy who is consistently in close combat
>what advantage could short hair give him
>>82541917
For the record, I'm not entirely sure he KNEW what he was getting in to when they threw him into the van and said they needed his help. Pretty sure his daughter loves the fact that he's Ant Man, so why would he stop being Ant Man?
>>82541936
Cassie would think Tony Stark is a big jerk too.
>>82541878
>eveyone's face when
>>82541915
>What are you talking about?
The fact that Black Panther is kind of a fuck face
>>82541919
He's on the run and hiding. Change his looks ... damnit DYE his hair!
>>82541917
No one stopped the movie to suck Scott's dick and tell him every decision he makes is perfect. He did what he thought was right, and he accepts the consequences like an adult.
Plus he's Ant-Man. He'll just sneak back into her room and say hey whenever he wants.
>My father made that shield!
What did he mean by this?
>>82541945
Brainwashing's a helluva drug.
>>82541945
Winter Soldier did it, not Bucky. Pay attention.
>>82541955
Nah he's badass. Coolest lines in the movie.
>>82541936
Oh yeah. By the way, how did they actually end up capturing Lang anyway? Couldn't he have Ant Man'd the fuck out of getting captured?
Plus. I bet Pym is fucking PISSED the government how has possession of the Ant Man suit. Damn.
>>82541861
Bucky and Steve both had their lives stolen from them at a young age by war, lost their chances at having a normal life defending their country. Both "died" only to be revived and weaponized and used by Shield and Hydra, which turned out to be the same organization. Both became victims and scapegoats of the system. Steve watched Bucky fall once and lived with the horror and regret of how much worse things got because he didn't go after him. Steve saving Bucky is him reclaiming both their lives and trying to give them the chance they lost before to live in peace.
This shit fucks me up.
>>82541930
I don't know I think the chub made him kinda cute and cuddly.
>>82541966
Howard Stark, father of Tony Stark, made the Shield Captain American formerly wielded.
>>82541956
In the movie he wasn't aware he was being hunted (at least not any more than he had been the rest of his life) until he was already caught.
Like, by the time he gets back to his apartment, Captain fucking America is in it.
>>82541986
Their shit was all in the Raft somewhere.
>>82541961
>Wanted fugitive
>Nobody would think to look for him at his daughter's house!
>>82541935
He killed T'Chaka.
>>82541966
His father, Howard Stark, created the vibranium shield that Steve Rogers uses. As seen in the motion picture "Captain America: The First Avenger".
>>82541986
>Dammit Scott, you let them get the Ant-Man suit?
>Yeah but I was trying to stop Tony Stark
>Oh that dickhead? We're cool then
T'Challa: I'm gonna dress up in my battle-cat suit and go kill the guy who killed my dad while he's being pursued by all of the police.
Bucky: I didn't kill your dad!
T'Challa: Then why are you running right now?
>>82541995
>that art
I few the weight gain fetishist were coming I just didn't think this soon.
>dat cam footage
>>82542020
but then that made T'Challa kangz and sheeit
>>82542007
So? Who knows how many government scientists were there to study that shit?
>>82541986
They said directly that the ones remaining behind would take the fall to distract from following Steve and Bucky
>>82541982
Yeah, he's bad ass but he's also an asshole who tries to murder a dude because he was the first name someone said after his dad died.
Like if someone had said "Matt Murdock" instead of "Winter Soldier" T'challa would have flown to new york to try and murder daredevil without a second thought.
>watching the movie in Brooklyn theater
>that exchange between Cap and Spiderman
It was a fun thing to hear people say Brooklyn and the few Queensfags there got BTFO
>>82542028
Nah don't worry it's two years old.
>>82541986
Hope could probably just break in and kick the ever living shit out of anybody unfortunate enough to be tasked with guarding that suit.
>>82540651
Fun.
>>82542027
T'challa literally didn't even give Bucky a chance. Then he tries to act all like it was some simple misunderstanding
>>82542047
To be fair, the dude was caught on fucking video doing it (well, framed, but you know--more than just "he did it!"). And it's not like he had any reason to feel bad if he got the wrong guy. He was going after a goddamned confirmed super-assassin. As far as literally everyone except Steve was concerned, good riddance.
>>82542047
Almost the entire world thought WS did it. Zemo fooled them. And T'Challa is a vengeful person whose pride comes first. Seems lame to call him an "asshole" just because he did something that fits his character based on the evidence at hand.
>>82542003
So, basically, after Winter Soldier ... just assume that no one's looking and just wear a baseball cap anywhere? He's a trained assassin. He should know how to blend in. (You know, like the way he describes the other WSoldiers, they can blend in ...)
All the reviews said Spider Man was the best part of the film. Fuck that! Ant Man was the best part of the film.
Every dialouge he says, every character he fought, and then the growing scene. Every moment he was on the screen was great.
>still haven't watched the Ant Man film
I need to get on that now. This movie made me want to see more of him.
>>82542047
It was all over the news. Winter Soldier was a known assassin. They had a picture of him at the scene. It was a logical conclusion, even if it turned out to be wrong.
And it's cool now because he has Bucky chillin back with him in Wakanda.
>>82542029
How the actual fuck would they even have that footage?
Also, Zemo's whole scheme kind of relied on the assumption that Both Tony and Bucky would be in the same room at that point
>>82542075
>Then he tries to act all like it was some simple misunderstanding
That's not true. He was consumed by revenge, and only realized the error of his ways when he saw what it drove Zemo to become.
>>82542054
It's funny how people from NY are always hyped about their boroughs but the rest of the country thinks the entire state is a containment state for shit.
>>82542092
He seemed to blend in pretty good for years.
>>82542093
>still haven't watched Ant Man
What are you DOING with your life
>>82542047
It's almost as if T'challa underwent a minor heroic journey arc, with him growing from a prince who is controlled by his emotions, to someone wise enough to be king
>>82541955
>The fact that Black Panther is kind of a fuck face
He went above and beyond by sheltering Bucky in his country. He stated outright that he was trying to make amends for hunting the wrong man. What he did is VERY generous.
>>82542092
Apparently it's been working ever since Winter Soldier. He didn't know anything had changed. He heard about the bombing within a few hours of a SWAT team showing up at his house.
>>82541356
Gillon's Vader series is great, despite Greg Land art.
>>82542126
No, characters must be flawless from the first time we see them!
>>82542029
I think this could be an awesome picture if depicted like a classic tragic painting. Like Socrates drinking hemlock, but with these characters doing exactly this. It would be cool as fuck.
Ghost Peggy's fw she sees Cap getting in on with her niece
>>82541775
Nope. Still dead.
People think SHIELD was restarted on AOU, probably because Fury and Pietro and Steve's little chat, but Fury remains hiding, and the shield hellcarrier operarives later join the Avegners group.
>>82542124
>He seemed to blend in pretty good for years.
>>82542134
Yeah. Pressed his luck. A simple newsstand vendor recognized him. Not cops. Not searchers. A civilian.
>>82542044
But why would Scott betray Pym, the mentor that he owes his life to, just to protect a guy he'd just officially fucking met?
>>82542097
>>82542084
Oh, poor him. I guess it's okay that he tried to murder a dude because the TV said so.
It's a wonder that Wakanda became such an advanced nation seeing as they don't believe in things like due process or human rights.
>that scene when Steve gets that text about Peggy
>>82542092
The whole time he was Winter Soldier didn't he walk around with a ninja mask, goggles, and an exposed cybernetic arm? How the hell was that inconspicuous?
>>82542167
Because Steve is his husbando. I thought the movie made that clear
>>82542162
After his face was plastered all over the world and before he found out about it. Remember, the dude didn't actually bomb the U.N. building. He didn't know that had happened. He literally found out about it *as* he was discovered.
>>82542102
That was the best possible outcome of his scheme, and remember they took that into account by saying he's spent the last couple of years being Batman and studying the two of them in detail to know how they'll act.
If Cap had lost at the airport the Avengers would still be shattered by half of them being locked in the Raft anyway. Same if someone had succeeded in killing Bucky, it likely would have been soul shattering to Cap and at the very least lead to the Avengers losing the first and most important Avenger
>>82542177
Shit hit a little too close to home for me.
>>82542162
Yes, that's what I said.
>>82542170
Man, you are just the worst kind of viewer. The one who expects every character to act completely rationally as if they had all the same information you do. Just makes you sound like an asshole.
>>82542093
Ant-Man is a really mediocre film. The scant few scenes with Lang in Civil War are better than the entire Ant-Man movie.
>>82541796
If Fury asks a favor, you do it.
>>82542177
>that nudge from Sam when Sharon went up the pulpit.
>>82542160
The word "thick" is overused to the point of losing all meaning, but Hayley Atwell is THICK.
>>82542170
I feel as though you're oversimplifying this on purpose.
>>82542170
It was a personal vendetta. He made it clear that beyond all logical thought process, he was going to dice the fucker who "killed" his pops. It was basically in direct parallel to Tony's situation at the end.
>>82542195
>Ant-Man is a really mediocre film.
Shit taste detected. Ant-Man is top tier MCU.
>>82542102
Bucky gets framed for blowing up UN summit. Bucky gets arrested. Zemo triggers Bucky. Bucky gets captured and tells Avengers about the super WS's. Avengers go after other WS's. Tony and Cap see video. Tony and Cap break up (maybe).
Sokovian Accords were just a happy coincidence that made Zemos plan more effective by creating a rift between Cap and Iron man but it wasn't relying on it.
>>82542195
I will fucking cut you, I swear to god
>>82542195
>>82542170
He realized he was wrong at the end and admitted it, unlike Tony or Zemo. He then actively tried to make up for it by taking Bucky in for protection and find a cure for his triggers. He'll probably even pimp him out with a new arm. Look how he learned a lesson to illustrate a major theme in the movie about vengeance tearing people apart, so amaze.
>>82542201
Indeed
>>82542177
>I have to go.
>Runs into the stairwell to grieve
>Sam attends the funeral to support Steve when no one else did
>I didn't want you to be alone.
I get a feeling so complicated
>>82541678
I'd go gay for that nigga.
>>82540974
It's likely that none of the other team members keep tabs on superheroics/enhanced activity the way Tony (or FRIDAY) does. I bet he already knows about Daredevil and Jessica.
>>82542231
WHEW
>>82542180
SHIELD/HYDRA files were released even Sharon (and Ross) identified the man in the photo surveillance as James Buchanan.
>>82542214
>>82542222
>>82542223
It's not funny, the characters are flat, acting is wooden, the plot is an absolute mess.
It's really just not a great movie, IMO.
>>82542120
>thinks the entire state is a containment state for shit.
No, that’s California.
>>82542262
Don't kid yourself. Both are terrible places.
>>82542231
L O N D O N
>>82542261
>>82542257
>My name is Bucky.
>>82542231
Do you have any good shots of her from the ABC shows? She was a bit plumper/bigger there, and it's just about perfect.
>Bucky bashing in Howard's face
>Choking out Mama Stark
Not okay.
>>82540922
I'm the same age as Jennifer Lawrence. I know that feel.
>T'Challa is for Sokovia accord so Super heroes can't take the law into their own hands
>5 minutes later puts on his super suit so he can take the law into his own hands
>>82542273
Shhh, don't tell them how much better those silly "flyover" states are. Let their egos keep them stuck in their overpopulated overpriced shitholes.
>>82542283
How's this
>>82542261
WROOOOOONG!
>>82542279
>>82542274
Okay, I guess I'm the troll for defending my position.
I've yet to hear what supposedly makes Ant-Man a good movie
>>82542293
Black Panther wasn't an Avenger. Thinking back I'm not sure if this was made explicit, but I assumed that the Sokovia Accords specifically targeted the Avengers, not just people in suits.
>>82542200
Can't tell if Sam or Bucky is the better bro.
>>82542285
>Did you even remember them?!
>I remember all of them...
How does Bucky even sleep at night? He must have nightmares all of the time
>>82542293
He said he thought 2 people could get more done than 100 people in a room and he didn't care for politics. I don't think he cared about the Accords as much as his father did.
>>82542304
>dem tits are super old and dead now
:-:
>>82542278
That's where her funeral was, yes
>>82542293
Wakanda doesn't give a shit about your white boy laws, nerd.
>>82542318
- Awesome effects use well with the shrinking powers
- Fun performances by the main cast, Douglas, Rudd and Pena especially
- Creative set pieces
- Falcon cameo
- ANTS
What more do you need senpai
>>82542301
This is sad.
So my theater cheered hard for the post credit scene with Spidey, yet this theater didn't get it at all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dSomXCfVIM
>>82542335
But those maggots are gonna feeeeeeast
>>82542327
Sam.
Sam has never gotten triggered and tried to kill him several times.
>>82542231
Sweet babby Jesus...
>>82542311
but the person you quoted didn't say "Superman will ne-"
>>82542333
Pretty sure he was just flirting with widow
>>82542335
MCU is the darkest timeline, our universe is the best since we still have Hayley
>>82541650
Who should go where?
>>82542365
And suddenly I'm ok with not having superpowers
Thanks anon
>>82542120
Eh, you may have a point but New Yorkers have a lot of pride. Especially in movies and shit and we have a lot of fun doing it.
>>82542350
Fucking christ Aunt May is sexy. My boner is slightly confused.
>>82542180
>>82542185
How young and naive are you guys?
When you're hiding, you still make your face dissimilar from normal.
Remember the gangster they caught in LA a couple of years ago? Him and his gf/wife used different looks and stayed hidden for decades.
>>82542360
His dad literally confirmed it right after. That's why he thanked him for coming
>>82542365
In Civil War, we see two of these people die and the other be the basis for a purple robot
>>82541352
It was creepy in Bicentennial Man and it's creepy here
>>82542350
Crowd reactions on any night other than premiere night vary, man. I caught a 5pm show today in a theater full of retarded Mexican kids and twenty-something nerds and it was quiet the whole time, but they still clapped at the end of the movie.
>>82542353
The bros you fight with are the bros you love most
>>82542328
see
>>82541988
Steve and Bucky are just as fucked up as Tony is, they just don't show it.
Steve doesn't because he's a stoic badass with a heart of gold.
Bucky doesn't because he's nearly dead inside.
>>82542384
>Eh, you may have a point but New Yorkers have a lot of pride.
And that's why people tend to mistake the rest of the state for being as shitty as NYC itself is.
>>82542231
Dan Peggy your bobbies
>>82542293
That's the fun part of being a king. Anything you do is a government sanctioned action.
>>82541555
>And the World Security Council thought "Hey let's nuke Manhattan. No big deal, right?"
They were also double nazi corrupt.
>>82542280
Sorry, sir. Sgt Barnes, sir.
>>82541341
The UN gravitates toward trade sanctions because avoiding global war is literally the entire purpose of the UN.
And don't be so quick to dismiss trade sanctions. Remember Iran? Remember all that talk about death to America? Well, we sanctioned the fuck out of Iran. You know what happened? Their fucking economy crashed almost overnight. In an age of globalization and capitalism, trade sanctions are nothing to smirk at.
Two words: "Economic warfare".
>>82542257
>James Buchanan
Oh we got problems if that was the case.
>>82542343
>Wakanda doesn't give a shit about your white boy laws, nerd.
So because he's King he gets to do whatever the fuck he wants. What a hypocrite.
>Awesome effects use well with the shrinking powers
Woo a whole lot of CGI nonsense scenes
>Fun performances by the main cast, Douglas, Rudd and Pena especially
Michael Douglas put more effort into it than I expected him to. Paul Rudd was Paul Rudd, and Michael Pena played an egregious racial stereotype
>Creative set pieces
Half the movie was set in a house, the other half was in a lab
>Falcon cameo
I don't see how shoehorning needless super hero fights into it makes it a better movie.
>ANTS
MEMES
>>82542392
What the fuck are you even talking about at this point. Nobody's arguing that disguises aren't a thing. Bucky didn't know he was under any more intense scrutiny than usual the day he got caught. This is very explicit in the film. That's why he didn't go to ground or change up his routine or dye his hair or whatever the fuck you wanted him to do.
Okay but I think we're all forgetting the most important part of Civil War:
Vision in a fucking dress shirt and sweater
I thought that black bald chick was kinda hot...in a very weird way
>>82542365
Yes, yes, that's the stuff.
Just like Joan on Mad Men. That midcentury thickness is the greatest of all body types.
>>82542384
I know. My sister lives on Long Island and I live in New Jersey.
I'm moving back to the midwest in less than three weeks. Fuck this coast, m8.
The traffic and the potholes alone are enough to drive people crazy. Not to mention the tolls.
>>82542407
They also don't lash out as others the way Tony did throughout the film. Bucky just tries to keep his head down in some shit town with his diary of pain, and then freezes himself to avoid people fucking with him more when hiding doesn't work. Steve channels it all into hard work work hard hard work keep going beat up more bad guys so you can't stop and think about your feelings.
>>82542429
And without Cap and friends we wouldn't know that until they pulled the trigger on another couple of million people
Thank you based Cap
>>82542445
>So because he's King he gets to do whatever the fuck he wants. What a hypocrite.
White boi detected
The rest of your post is weak b8 or shit taste, maybe both
>>82542444
noice
>>82542407
>Bucky doesn't because he's nearly dead inside.
Poor guy will be the new meme man.
>>82542335
I like to think that her being 95 years old didn't stop them from finding a way to keep giving Peggy appearances, so her being dead isn't really that much more of a hurdle.
Maybe Thanos can kill Steve and they can finally be together again before Wanda remakes the universe or something.
So does Aunt May just get younger and younger with every Spidey reboot? Next time they reboot it it'll be Megan Fox or something
>>82542444
>literally named after a gay president that led into the start of the Civil War
>pottery
>>82542452
She was ready to slap Nat's shit plus she had a good body.
>>82542414
Indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StJS51d1Fzg
>Steve gets some skinny chick instead of this
Downgrade
>>82542350
I assume from the lack of clapping that theater is not in America
>>82542231
Eh. I still prefer Dottie. She's such a sexy bitch.
>>82542464
Forgive me for having standards.
>>82542499
>Emily VanCamp is a downgrade
I will fight you
>>82542478
>named after a pro-slavery president
>fast-running black man out for his blood
P O T T E R Y
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>>82542472
Going back to Peggy after making it with her niece after she's dead would make this even weirder than it already is.
How do you pronounce T'Challa? I heard his dad's name being pronounced and it threw me off
>>82542512
You could argue that any woman is a downgrade from a goddess like Atwell.
At that level of attractiveness it just comes down to personal taste.
>>82542234
The power of friendship isn't always expressed with rainbows from tiny horses or the power of Infinity Stones destroying amazingly hammy villains. Sometimes it is just friendship.
>>82542461
>Steve channels it all into hard work work hard hard work keep going beat up more bad guys so you can't stop and think about your feelings.
I really hate they didn't go into this more. They touched on this in TWS and AoU and they said they would dive into this more and Steve's "dark side" in CW but it kind of resolved itself or something.
>>82542474
Not a bad thing, comic book Aunt May being ancient has never felt right to me.
Feels like a product of another time that they've just failed to ever update.
>Black Panther
>"Thanks for agreeing to regulations and signing the accords"
>Explosion
>"Fuck rules I'm going to kill Bucky myself"
What a fucking stupid character
>>82542447
You're young, alright.
It means, he's not that smart. Which makes Sam a better soldier (but then again Sam is an officer).
>>82542512
Compared to this, yes
>>82542234
>tfw no ride or die nigga like Sam
>>82542538
Emily VanCamp is still a 10 in her own right
>>82542548
Watching this new meme be born in this very thread has been amazing
>>82542509
>>82542548
White bois detected
>>82542512
Hayley Atwell is literally the one MCU girl I'd go gay for, Everyone else pales in comparison.
>>82542512
That bitch's nose looks like Stonehenge from the side.
No tits or ass to speak off.
Zero charisma or personality.
Downgrade is right
>>82542562
That was my point.
They're all 10s. Pick the one that feels most like an 11 to you.
>>82542501
You do know that Bucky's Dottie is different from Peggy's Dottie, right?
Peggy's (hot hot hot) Dottie is a BW.
Agent Carter will forever be the biggest disappointment in all of comic shows. It had so much potential, seeing Peggy build SHIELD would be amazing
Instead we got boring plots that had nothing to do with the MCU so Marvel could have a feminist show where she fights the sexist white male
I'm gonna go fap to Aunt May.
Jesus, 10 years ago the idea would have horrified me. What a time to be alive.
>>82542536
As it's spelled. T-cha-la
>>82542577
Are you insinuating I'm a racist or something?
>>82542600
I thought it was awesome and we got sexy Peggy, funny Jarvis and cool Howard. Could have been better but far from the "biggest disappointment".
>>82542549
>Which makes Sam a better soldier (but then again Sam is an officer).
Wait, you're not even arguing about Bucky. You're just trying to find a round-about way to say that your favorite Steve-buddy is the best.
That explains a lot about our conversation. You can have it.
Got back from seeing it about half an hour ago. Got to admit, it might be the best Marvel movie to date but it's having a death match with WS in my head. Everyone felt spot on in character. Spider-man was great. My favorite so far. Ant-man and Hawkeye felt shoehorned in more than Spider-man but I guess his introduction helped. I loved how it would go from serious to funny to kick ass and so forth. The guy who played Black Panther fucking killed it. Can't wait for his film. That airport fight scene is just so jumpy that I love it. I feel like Ant-man stole a lot of the scenes he is in. Plus it made me really want to see an Ant-man/Iron man team up movie/short.
The one thing I poke at is with them constantly saying this isn't an Avengers film. I feel like they were lying a little bit. This film is totally a Captain America movie but it also is an Iron Man movie. But for a solid like 20-30 minutes it is an Avengers movie. They totally could have taken Captain America off the title and just called it Civil War.
Sorry for how choppy this but I was just typing as I went through stuff in my head.
>>82542608
>I'm gonna go fap to Aunt May.
>Jesus, 10 years ago the idea would have horrified me. What a time to be alive.
RDJ fucked the actress IRL too.
>>82542596
Who's Bucky's Dottie?
>>82542580
I'd go gay for you
>>82542613
I'm insinuating you're a white boi
>>82542617
This.
I like it. It wasn't hype every week but I didn't hate the show.
>>82542624
>Implying they didn't fuck in their trailers on the one day of shooting they did the Queens scene
>>82542195
Disagree, Ant-Man, although overall not that fantastic, had some hilarious scenes and the Yellowjacket fight was badass ( especially if you didnt spoil it with trailers )
>>82542624
A lot less awkward than the discussion Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent are going to have to have at some point
>>82542600
>Watered down old school detective/spy plots marred by out-of-place sci-fi
>Wasting old Hollywood setting
It's so aggressively mediocre.
They were only heavy handed about the woman angle in the first half of season one.
So how does nobody at a maximum security super prison realize that the psychiatrist they contracted to interact with the world's biggest fugitive is the wrong guy?
Also, I forgot, what was the point of the bomb that Zemo fed-ex'd to some old guy?
>It was me who masqueraded as Bucky to get Crossbones to work for me and almost unleash a deadly virus.
>It was me who masqueraded as Bucky bombing the UN killing several including King T'Chakka, sparking a vengeance in his son.
>It was me who pretended to be a psychiatrist to trigger Bucky sending him into a violent outburst.
>It was me who revealed the killer of Tony Stark's parents was none other than Bucky to create distrust and violence in the ranks
Did I miss anything?
>>82542620
I kind of think
Best solo movie: Winter Soldier
Best Avengers movie: Civil War
>>82542678
>this meme again
You need to stop being so insecure.
>>82542682
EMP.
>>82542483
I'm glad I ain't the only one.
>>82542682
It was an EMP to knock out the prison's security so he could brain rape bucky
>>82542619
NO you idiot!
He's a trained soldier turned trained super assassin. The training alone should have given him the smarts to blend in ESPECIALLY when he's basically on the run (that's why he's in a different country). Be inconspicuous; use another image and identity.
BUT NO. Forget being a trained soldier OR assassin. Just wear a ballcap ...
>>82542682
It took out the power which allowed the Winter Soldier trigger panic.
>>82542682
It was an EMP that turned off all the power so that he could get info out of Bucky. It's literally directly connected to the first half of your post.
>>82542682
>Also, I forgot, what was the point of the bomb that Zemo fed-ex'd to some old guy?
It is an EMP to cause a massive blackout that affect the German facility.
>>82542719
But he did blend in. No one found him for years.
>>82542682
It was to knock the power so he could trigger Bucky without interference.
>>82542702
Wait, what meme? I was complimenting the show on not dwelling on it.
>>82542629
(I think) Remember his date at Howard Stark's Expo?
>>82542682
To knock out the power so they couldn't see or hear him summoning Made in Heaven.
>Bird costume
>"Can you move your seat up?"
Best jokes in the movie
>>82542694
Sounds like Zemo to me. Do ya'll remember when he lured BuckyCap to an island and strapped him to a bomb in order to make him prove he was worth being Cap? He has a weird obsession.
>>82542669
I don't know what to tell you dog, I really didn't find Ant-Man to be that funny.
And The Yellowjacket fight was pretty typical for a superhero fight. The whole them interacting with small things as if they were big things bit gets played out pretty quick.
>>82542629
She was mentioned in Civil War as being a red head
>>82541935
>>82542694
Forgot to add this
>>82542738
see >>82542162
(let's go in circles)
I loved this movie /co/ I really do, I'm not going to lie though, I was really hoping for a 5 Winter Soldiers vs 4 Avengers (CA,WS,IM,BP ) would've been pretty damn epic, and then get down to the final video/daddy issues.
To be really fair, it wasn't his dad dying that triggered him, it was his mom, if you saw your mom getting killed you kinda forget everything at that point and go awol.
>>82542776
Because someone framed him and he had no idea, not because they just knew he was WS.
>>82542719
Not him, but the Winter Soldier wasn't the kind of assassin to hide and infiltrate to set up a clean no-collateral kill. Hydra would just kinda drop him off places to kill things, and he would do it because he has super powers and a Vibranium arm.
Like, if this was Warhammer 40k, he would be an Eversor assassin, not a Vindicare.
>>82542629
Throwaway no homo inclusion to remind us all that Steve and Bucky are very straight.
>>82542719
I guess Bucky was on the other side of the planet, in a place that really had no reason to look for him or suspect him of anything, until he became front page news for the bombing.
He's a minor footnote in the aftermath of The Winter Soldier, compared to the dismantling of a global defense organization and the dispersal of decades worth of super classified documents.
>>82542781
That would have been boring and predictable. They subverted the expectation and the finale was about the emotional conflict, not LET'S BEAT UP DA BAD GUYS (see: BvS)
>>82542764
She was also a soviet spy who already changed her hair color once in Agent Carter.
>>82542803
Who's got a case of the Not Gays?
>>82542285
>Howard calling out for someone to help his wife
>then suddenly
>"Sergeant Barnes?"
>>82542694
>>It was me who masqueraded as Bucky to get Crossbones to work for me and almost unleash a deadly virus.
Was this Zemo? I must have missed when they revealed that
>>It was me who masqueraded as Bucky bombing the UN killing several including King T'Chakka, sparking a vengeance in his son.
Bomb could just have easily killed T'Challa too, sparking vengeance was just a happy accident
>>It was me who pretended to be a psychiatrist to trigger Bucky sending him into a violent outburst.
Man, good thing it's SUPER fucking easy to infiltrate a maximum security prison facility, and also that the place has no backup power
>>It was me who revealed the killer of Tony Stark's parents was none other than Bucky to create distrust and violence in the ranks
Assuming that everyone just so happened to make it to that room with that tape, which relies heavily on circumstance.
Imagine if they had actually apprehended them at the airport, or Tony hadn't found out Steve was right all along and flew to siberia or any of them had died throughout the course of the movie and Zemo is just sitting in his bunker waiting for weeks, ready to strike a dramatic pose at any second, hoping they'll walk in
>>82542796
Yeah he wasn't the Black Widow. Bucky's purpose was to go in and wreck shit and leave, not extended infiltration missions because his programming would break down and he'd become unstable after a certain amount of time out of cyro.
Why isn't there a sticky?
>>82541338
MASTERPIECE
>>82542696
Yeah. I'll agree with that.
And one more thing I wanted to mention. Does anyone else feel like they nailed a better Superman/Batman dynamic with Cap/Tony better than DC has done? Because the whole scene where Tony and Cap are talking about the contract felt like a Superman/Batman scene. I know I'm pulling at some weird straws here but I just couldn't get that out of my head.
>>82542029
Source? That picture is breaking my heart.
>>82542855
Who honestly cares?
>>82542790
You're an idiot. If you're on the run (and especially hiding in another country), YOU ALWAYS **assume someone's after you.**
** the tenet of the Witness Protection Program
>>82542796
You, too. Read argument thread where Bucky mentioned that the other WSoldiers are trained to blend in.
>>82542816
Disney got scared when all the articles and interviewers and social media revealed that everyone thinks Steve is in love with Bucky. The kiss scene with Sharon was an ordered reshoot in January.
>>82542871
He had no reason to think his picture would suddenly be on the front of every newspaper. Stop talking, moron.
>>82542751
I think it'd be pretty funny for Bucky and Sam to just be jealous for Caps friendship.
>>82542897
Yeah ... you don't get it.
>>82542781
>>82542808
It would have been better done than BvS but more unnecessary than BvS as well
>last fight scene is with a bunch of superpowered no-names
>>82542917
Yeah ... you don't get it.
>>82542828
>Imagine if they had actually apprehended them at the airport
Tony would get the full story from Cap, and it would be confirmed when Zemo leaked framing Bucky. Tony would still go after Zemo, probably without Cap, but still see the footage and get his revenge boner.
>>82542933
Back to Plebbit with you.
>>82542828
>Man, good thing it's SUPER fucking easy to infiltrate a maximum security prison facility, and also that the place has no backup power
Pretty sure that goofy EMP device would have knocked out the backup power, also the movie goes into detail about him being special ex-military, breaking into a maximum security prison should be a cakewalk. The Punisher did that and more on Daredevil.
>Assuming that everyone just so happened to make it to that room with that tape, which relies heavily on circumstance.
He wouldn't leave it to circumstance, I'm sure if it didn't get revealed there it would have been revealed later.
I'm assuming you don't read a lot of Captain America or particularly anything that involves Helmut Zemo?
See
>>82542752
>>82542092
He did put on some weight
>>82542871
>Read argument thread where Bucky mentioned that the other WSoldiers are trained to blend in.
The others were, but Bucky? He was a weapon, one they kept in deep freeze as much as possible in order to maintain control over his mind. Did you see TWS when the scientist gave his warning that Bucky had been thawed out for too long? Without their constant fine tuning and reinforcement of their control over him, including repeatedly wiping his mind, he wasn't 100% reliable. Hell, the others were last scene going bug nuts and murdering a bunch of guys so they weren't 100% either. Maybe there was time to perfect control over them so they could operate under deep cover for extended periods, but Bucky? No. You drop him in with his silver robo arm and let him get shit done, then you pick him up and pop him back in the freezer until you need him again.
>>82542935
Nice meme. But as CIS in USAF I did investigations and facial ID. You're a moron who will get caught right away when you go into hiding.
>>82542960
Well he did miss his freezer fastings.
>>82541040
Less than 100 actually
like 78 or something
>>82542966
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch?
>>82542955
Back to TV with you
>>82542384
It makes watching X-men flicks in Westchester fun
>>82542997
Nah.
>>82543014
While im not sure on the exact number I do no it is ridiculously low for what you would expect from an alien invasion in New York
>>82542865
http://drdklee45.deviantart.com/art/Uneasy-relationship-550872287
New thread
>>82543060
>>82543060
>>82543060
>>82542959
>The Punisher did that and more on Daredevil.
No he didn't. He was arrested and sent to prison.
Fisk paid off the guards to let Frank go. Frank didn't do shit.
>Special ex-military
I guess he has super military powers that make people ignore security protocols?
Like they didn't check his identity or anything to confirm he was the guy who was supposed to be doing this psych evaluation
>>82542990
Does seem a bit low but the Chitauri were pretty concentrated near their portal and at least the Avengers made it a point for some of them to help clear civilians, including recruiting local low enforcement for the task. Then their big guns were keeping the bulk of the alien force occupied.
Even then casualties should be five times higher than reported easily, and just from the giant living alien monster ships whose corpses were dropped onto buildings.
>>82542996
I said, you're the reason why DCucks say that MCU fans are shallow. You drag us down.
>>82543089
I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Marveldrones, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Warner Bros., and I have over 300 confirmed anti-DC shitposts.
>>82543105
Well, OK then... Well done! Very well done indeed.
(My real concern is really Perlmuter and what he might do to MCU; his existence basically disconnected the TV verse. I wanted to see DD, Iron Fist, and Spidey in the same movie/episode at least once ...)
>>82543046
Thank you!
>>82541169
Avengers>WS>AoU>CW>IM2
Winter Soldier Nat comes in second if only because her role in that movie is literally best girl.
>>82540651
Morty
>the opening
SPIRAL STAIRCASE
RHINOCEROS BEETLE
RUINS STREET
FIG TART
RHINOCEROS BEETLE
VIA DOLOROSA
RHINOCEROS BEETLE
SINGULARITY POINT
GIOTTO
ANGEL
HYDRANGEA
RHINOCEROS BEETLE
SINGULARITY POINT
SECRET EMPEROR
>>82540887
Seconded. I'm still mad. Super speed is my favorite super power. They could easily bring him back in Infinity War but I'm guessing Feige doesn't want two Quicksilvers which is why he died in AoU. Fuck this gay earth.
>>82542638
>I'm insinuating that I'm racist
oh ok then
