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Instead of talking about the actual story, can we take a moment to talk about everything else in the movie?
This really isn't a spoiler, but I'ma play it safe just in case:Falcon got a real boost in power. I really fucking liked how he used his wings as a shield for him and others during fights. That was a really cool detail. He just seems to flow a lot better with the rest of the team. A real sense of synergy, y'know?
>>82513470
Why doesn't anyone ever mention how hedropkicked a helicopter? Shit was badass.
>>82513470
I like the Redwing headbutt.
Fucking incredible movie.
Spider-Man was spot fucking on.
I gotta say, the MCU certainly did wonders for Falcon. Makes me eager to see Vulture sometime
>>82513583
I wish he wasn't thrown in though, it was a great exhibition of his character but he sticks out like a sore thumb and interrupted the tone of what's otherwise a pretty tense and personal stand-off
Love Tom Holland as Peter though, he nails the character perfectly
Just got back, totally loved it.
They finally got a good villain. I was never a big Loki fan and all the good villains died after the first appearance or haven't shown up since, so it was nice to get a great bad guy that's sticking around.
Spider-Man was my favorite part, easily. The Empire line was a little weird, but that's my only complaint. Really nailed the fighting style and characterization.Hopefully we see him get stronger throughout the years, he felt somewhat nerfed in this but it's fine since he's only 6 months a hero. Also Aunt May was hot.
>>82513642
The tone of the stand off was light. It started with Black Widow kicking Ant Man in the balls.
How was Hawkeye?
>>82513718
Great. And further reminder on why Green Arrow sucks these days
>>82513718
Pretty good, actually. Used very sparingly, so the scenes he's in actually have a sense of importance. He isn't ungodly broken as he was in Avengers nor as useless as he was in Age of Ultron. Actually feels like a well built character this time around
>>82513642
Nah, that fight was never going for that tone, so Holland fit right in.
He got out of the picture by the time shit was about to go down for real.
>>82513718
He's the cool older brother in the movie.
>>82513718Showed up without reason (just like Ant-Man) to break Wanda out of Stark's custody.
I just got back from seeing it. Competent but disappointing. it feels like none of the character arcs really got resolved ina satisfactory way by the end (with the exception of Black Panther, holy fuck he was great).
>>82513601
>>82513470
I know it's not a great accomplishment, but he's definitely the best incarnation of the character.
>Cannonballing/Spin-kicking those 2 guys
>One-arm riot shield
>Back Shield
>Redwing BONK
>Dropkicking Helichopter
>Bird Costume
Dude was badass and complemented Steve in every way. Being outspoken over petty things Steve would be too polite, voicing his opinions to Rhodey/Vision, being careful yet accepting of Bucky. Helping Tony helping Steve from the raft.
Dude was an absolute bro.
Also, I'm waiting for Wanda to go (almost) full Akira on someone. Except the huge veiny throby version. The Russos obviously respect her a lot in terms of power and are trying to gradually build her up. If this is stage 2 of 4 for her, I can't fucking wait.
BLACK PANTHER WHEN
FINALLY A COOL BLACK SUPER HERO
THAT NIGGA RICHOUS
>>82513751
>we will never get a movie with Hawkeye and Ant-Man pulling some crazy heist scheme together
I think an important distinction that we all need to learn to make is the difference between quips and bantz.
Because this movie had very little by way of quips, but it had some amazing bantz.
>>82513642
Spider-Man was perfect and his character being the only one who actually quipped during the fights (I'd say Ant-Man was actually making real jokes) was perfect for Spider-Man too.
>>82513470
Why the shit was the location text always so damn big? Did they worry if it was hidden in the corner nobody would get it?
>token black sidekicks get generic action scenes
Who cares? Black Panther was somewhat enjoyable, but in a movie packed with a billion action scenes, Falcon and Rhodey were just yawn-worthy.
>>82513768
He had a reason to show up. Stark was being an asshole to Wanda, and she owed her brother one for giving his life. They needed a small militia, and Ant-Man also owed one to Falcon. Plus he hates Stark and seems to love Cap.
I wonder if Pym as a SHIELD agent ever liked Cap as an iconic figure.
Holy shit Black Panther.
I was so indifferent to him but holy shit his movie can't come out fast enough now.
Black Panther's introduction was fucking killer. They truly demonstrated how awesome that character would be in real life, with his moves and the way his claws worked. They were fucking savage in that opening fight, and his agility and DEAD fucking silence was really defining for his character.
Spider-Man, don't get me started. It was literally perfect. They nailed the character in every single way.
>>82513470
I can't think of anything in the movie I didn't like. I mean I could sympathize with every character and it really felt like they were all justified in their stances. It was paced right and everyone had a reason for fighting.
>>82513779
February 2018
>>82513845
Same here. Easily my favorite part of the movie.
Black Panther was fucking amazing and I was so so happy to see Christopher Priest's name in the credits. Here's hoping that his solo film is heavily influenced by Priest's run.
My only actual complaints:
Took too long to build up, a little slow without much tension at first. But that's okay.
Scarlet Witch is unbelievably powerful, they even paint her as the only one able to take on Vision, and her magic is really potent. She would not have been one to make a simple mistake like throwing a bomb into a building like that. On top of that, they don't ever seem to acknowledge she is actively casting spells/performing magic, and they needed to really solidify that before Doctor Strange. I feel like Doctor Strange is going to under perform.
>>82513779
Random thought but, how would you people feel if Kraven the Hunter was a secondary villain for the Black Panther movie? I mean Im fully expecting Klaww, maybe even in sound form, but it would be good world building if they decided to use Kraven later for Spider Man
I'm decidedly "meh" on the movie. I can't think of anything I outright hate, I just think I have a hard time sympathizing with Tony like the movie really wants me too. (Protip, if your plan starts with "So we're going to relinquish oversight of our operations to the United Nations " then it's a terrible fucking plan.
>>82513928
Tony was the bad guy in this movie.
I gotta say, the comics did a terrible job of selling both sides as having points, but the movie fucking nailed it and all they had to do to accomplish this was make Steve a little selfish.
>>82513928
Tony was not sympathetic. This was a Captain America film at it's core.
>>82513718
I don't care
>>82513971
The comics were about mutants. Mutants are what started the registration shit, so they did all they could do in the movie without having rights to mutants.
Post yfw leaving the theatre
>>82513928
Tony was definitely run by emotion rather than reason.
>>82513987
Nitro wasn't a mutant though. He was a kree experiment.
How are the Russos so based? Literally every character is a scene stealer. Who owns the scene when everyone is stealing it?
>>82513994
They both were. That's the beauty of it. Cap pretty much threw out all logic because "muh bucky" while Stark gets guilt tripped into being an asshole.
>>82514019
>Nitro wasn't a mutant
The mutant registration acts started the civil war.
>>82513718
Actually Hawkeye for once.
Steve making out with Sharon with Sam and Bucky going "hell yeah" in the background
They are the best wingmen.
>>82514033
Its quite impressive how they managed to juggle so many characters, certainly better than Joss. I think WB needs to consult them
>>82514019
>Nitro
>Reading wikipedia
>Not actually quoting it
When the mutant population was drastically reduced in the aftermath of M-Day, itself caused by a mutant, anti-mutant hysteria caused by extremist groups caused a majority of the remaining mutants, known as the 198, to relocate to the Xavier Institute, and raised public support for the proposed act.
>>82514066
Joss was absolutely BTFO.
>>82514064
I thinkSam was a better wingman
>>82513877
>yfw the villain called him handsome
Based T'Challa
Movie Tony's entire character is being a dick and he still looks less like a dick in this movie than Civil War Comic Tony
>>82514088
DUTIFUL, anon.
He said DUTIFUL.
>>82514019
In almost all of the x-men comics and a lot of main marvel issues, mutants were always the primary cause for registration ideas and they were the ones that started the Civil War in the comics.
They obviously couldn't use mutants in the movie version. Which I think really made it seem like they were stretching. The Avengers "causing" terror by trying to stop it isn't really a good point.
The fanatical bullshit in the movie was moot because if she hadn't thrown the bomb into the building, it would've simply exploded and killed all the people on the ground anyway.
It's like, a very over exaggerated point.
>>82513470
>>82513524
>>82513546
All of these were super cool
>>82514115
> it would've simply exploded and killed all the people on the ground anyway.
It would've exploded and killed Steve on top of all the people around them.
>>82513772
>being careful yet accepting of Bucky.
I want more Falcon and Bucky interactions in all Marvel movies from now on.
>tfw HOHOHOHO
>>82513772
Don't forget when he just dropped rockets on those mooks in Lagos.
Falcon got one hell of an upgrade.
>>82513882
Note that the post credit teasers were for Black Panther and Spiderman solo movies, instead of a teaser for Doctor Strange.
Warning sign?
>>82513642
His creed of "With Great Power, Comes Great Responsibility"isn't spoken, but it hangs over Civil War like a judgmental shroud.
Peter is the fully realised embodiment of such a virtue, but everyone else around him has difficulties living up to it even when, as heroes, they have an understanding of its basic principles.
Vision is afraid of his power and thinks that by signing with the Accords, he is being responsible. In reality, he is just handing over that responsibility to someone else. He gets a taste of true culpability when heobeys Rhodey's orders to disable Falcon's flight pack and accidentally winds up blasting War Machine's arc reactor instead.
Black Panther has the technology, the fighting skills, and the intelligence to capture his target, but his reckless use of them has himchasing down the wrong man for most of the movie and his realisation of this hits him hard at the end.
Iron Man hopes to absolve himself and reign in his self-destructive tendencies by supporting the Accords, but as the ending showed, no amount of oversight or lip service to the UN can act as a legitimate substitute for actually fixing the broken machinery inside of him.
Captain America has a phenomenal personal advantage, the ability to get people to instantly trust him because his appeal and mission statement is broad enough that everyone from retired spies to shrinking rogues can interpret it how they see fit. Heleads them on an off-the-books mission to stop what he thinks to be a menace whose neutralisation will finally legitimise the international vigilantism of the Avengers only for it to be a hoax, landing most of his followers in jail.In turn, he makes everyone else on Team Cap irresponsible with their own freedoms and powers because they just blindly trust him with them all
Honestly, the only Avengers that do take charge of themselves areWanda, Rhodes and Bucky.
Does Falcon still have the fold out Uzi's?
>>82514139
Was this when Ant Man became giant? Because I was so hyped
>>82514139
>tfw ant arrow
Ant-Man was the real stand out of the airport battle.
>>82514176
Maybe it's because those two appeared in this movie
I had a Dr. Strange trailer directly before Civil War
it was the same one from the Fallon premiere, but still.
Mfw I realize thatTony's new invention can pretty much solve all bullshit Bucky had gone through
Zemo was right , he fucking won.
>>82514176
no, idiot
>>82514176
I was expecting some expansion on what the fuck Scarlet Witch is doing. The fact she is using MAGIC first and foremost.
They avoided talking about the radioactive spider with Spider-Man, I get it, but everyone has clear and defined powers. Vision's are a little iffy, but what the fuck. They are skirting around Thor to begin with as "it's just so advanced it seems like magic" but they can't really skirt around Wanda.
There was no expansion on her powers or what she is even doing despite the fact she was a central point of the film.
Does magic exist in this universe or not? Doctor Strange is in trouble, I think, and most people left wanting to see Black Panther's movie and Spider-Mans movie.
Just got back. Glad I can finally breathe on the internet.
Thoughts:I felt so bad for Tony...
Black Panther and especially Spider-Man are simply perfect. I am beyond hype for those 2 films.
Vision wearing clothes and cooking for Wanda and longing to know what the mind gem is, is everything I want out of the character.
Everybody was terribly well written. Though I wish General of State Ross had more to say. Perhaps about the events of 10 years ago.
I was mildly surprised everyone left as fractured as they did. The Russos seem to have a clear picture of what Infinity War will be.
Bucky becoming Cap will never fly if that's what they plan on doing. No way Tony will ever stand next to him.
>>82514176
I feel like Dr Strange is another "testing the waters" movie where marvel is gauging audience interest in magic material. If all goes well we might see a Ghost Rider reboot
>>82514223
Doctor Strange could potentially be the first Marvel Cinematic Universe flop.
>>82514033
The studio demanded Black Panther and Spidey here.
They also demanded Thor's vision quest in Age of Ultron.
The Russos handle marketing-based studio demands *much* better than Whedon did, and that may be as big a factor in Marvel trusting them as the commercial/critical success of the Cap movies did.
I'm definitely a lot more hype for Infinity War now that I've seen the Russos juggle these characters so flawlessly.
>>82514176
Well Strange really isn't part of the Avengers yet , he's still unknown to the MCU only fags .
>>82514268
You get this with multiple directors.
It's interesting to note the differences from the trailers. The Raft cells are empty in the trailer but the only time we see them is when they're full. So I guess they filmed the actors in their cells separately and RDJ wasn't actually talking to them, seems seamless tho.
Besides Hawkeye giving Tony a verbal lashing, Scott had the best exchange:
>Pym always said you could never trust a Stark!
>Who are you?
>Come on, man...
Intentional GotG reference or not?
>>82514211
>that spoiler
Holy shit you're right. It seemed like such an unnecssary thing to the plot but it was staring me in the face the whole time.
>>82514112
....I think that Chadwick is so handsome that I heard Zemo say handsome. I stand by what I posted though.
>>82513994
Panther, Cap and Iron Man were all blinded by emotion and rage over the death of a loved one.
Iron Man straight up admits he's doing something wrong but doesn't care, because he needs relief and closure.
Cap does slide for the first time but takes the higher road and apologizes. Interesting how this was the first time Cap outright lied.
Panther sees himself in Zemo and backs away from going too far like the other two.
Zemo's whole arc was also about how he was taking emotional (yet calculated, because he's a villain) decisions because of his wife.
I really fucking liked the simplicity in Zemo's whole character/motivation. Literally a fucking nobody wrecked shit, but it works because he knew how much personal loss hurts and how it can be more powerful than an army because it makes you doubt and second-guess yourself and your fiends/allies, instead of making you rally for a clear goal.
The Russos are so fucking precise in directing a story and a bunch of characters it's incredible. They know all their beats and turns and have everything present at once in their mind, and rarely leave lose threads and faulty connections. They are very meticulous about everything, and it's a joy to watch.
>>82514300
>Intentional GotG reference or not?
No.
And speaking of that, I get disgusted each time seeing that Suicide Squad trailer. It's fucking Guardians of the Galaxy to a T.
>>82514261
I literally laughed out loud.
>>82514223
Doctor Strange will be the third in the trilogy of literally whos after Guardians and Ant-Man. Both of which were so well received, despite being under-marketed comparitively, that they each had sequels announced before they were out of theaters.
>>82514268
>Black Panther was forced to be in
The fact that he feels almost like the tritagonist after Cap and Iron Man is a testament to how well the Russo's handle their business.
>>82514223
They refer to it as telekynesis in AoU, I think. Must be something related to the infinity gem.
my theatre fucking exploded into applause atGiant Man
>>82514300
>>82514316
Well I immediately thought of Starlord. So it probably was a wink at least.
>Black Panther was introduced, established to be a violence prone hot head, acknowledged his wrongs, and had actual character development in a movie with nearly a dozen other heroes.
>Meanwhile Superman stabbed a cave troll
I loved the movie but I am beyond mad at DC right now. Holy shit I just want all cape films to be good.
>>82514317
>Doctor Strange will be the third in the trilogy of literally whos after Guardians and Ant-Man.
No it won't.
They have literally not established magic or what the fuck magic is in this universe, and the whole film makes no fucking sense. The trailer makes no fucking sense, and is like nothing from the MCU. It looks like inception and some other shit. It doesn't paint him as being a Sorcerer, and they balked on explaining what Wanda was doing.
HURR I DONT KNO WAT I DO BUT I DO IT
>>82514223
>>82514261
>Doctor Strange is in trouble, I think
People said the exact same thing about GoG and Ant-man. I honestly don't know why people are still expecting this to happen. Law of averages? Because nothing about the performance of previous MCU films is a good basis for assuming that a new one is going to flop simply for being different.
>>82514352
Wanda's powers came from the mind gem. They're cosmic in nature. Why can't you understand this?
I can't think of any flaws.
Black Panther, Ant-Man, Spider-Man, they nailed these characters so much. The fact they put so much emphasis on Ant-Man and Spider-Man and shit, and really let them shine
This movie was so well done.
>>82514351
Right? Theres literally no excuse for WB to be fucking up so bad. We live in a time where Ant Man,Panther, and friggin Vision have more going for them than Batman and Superman
>>82513882
>On top of that, they don't ever seem to acknowledge she is actively casting spells/performing magic
Wanda doesn't cast magic. She's just a witch because she's a woman and her energy things look like magic bolts.
>>82514346
Mine clapped at:
QUEENS
Vision phasing through Wanda's room
Hawkeye reveal
Giant-Man
Peter at the airport
Wakanda
Peter again
>>82514352
Wanda's powers are the result of experiments from an extraterrestrial rock. Not magic.
>>82514261
>Marvel Cinematic Universe
>Following the successes of GOTG and Ant-Man
>Starring Tumblr fangirl darling and esteemed actor, Benedict Cumberbatch.
>Featuring killer special effects and fantasy elements marketed to the Harry Potter/LOTR generation.
>In the Marvel Cinematic Universe
It'll be fucking fine, stop doing this every time they take a risk.
>>82514325
>MCU takes existingblack character and shows normies how cool he is
>Marvel comics will just replace Tony or someone with a random black side character to score brownie points
>>82514368
>>82514371
Doctor Strange is just a guy in an inception like movie. There's nothing wacky or crazy about it. It looks really generic and boring and odd. It's very weird looking. The fact magic hasnt' even been established as a thing in the MCU, and may or may not come from the mind gem is still not really meshing.
>>82514346
Some guys at my theatre laughed when Rhodey free fall down to the ground.
>>82514411
>stop doing this every time they take a risk
Seriously. They get pounded for being too "samey" already.
>>82514346
The scene withThe Volkswagon made everyone laugh their asses off, including me. That was funny as shit
>>82514346
Some fucker in my theatre yelled "ANTS". And I'm not even from an English-speaking country.
Of course, I yelled "ANTS" back, and someone yelled "ANT-MAN". Probably the first guy.
Made my theatre experience, even if it probably annoyed everyone else.
>>82514351
>Black Panther was introduced, established to be a violence prone hot head, acknowledged his wrongs, and had actual character development in a movie with nearly a dozen other heroes.
Since this is technically the usual route for a first solo superhero movie foray, I wonder what the big conflict will be in his solo movie.
Given how the MCU ages in real time, he'll have had around two years to cope withhis father's deathand stifle the political fallout in Wakanda.
>>82514422
>using existing black character and making him awesome instead of lazily raceswapping someone else
This is how diversity should be done.
>>82514397
>>82514403
Well coming from the comics, where she is a powerful magic user, I am just confused.
>>82514436
I love how there was yet another scene with Captain America stealing a car. Based Russos.
Civil War and Dr. Strange are Feige's pet projects.
>>82514432
Sons of bitches.
My theatre just had a few hushed gasps
>>82514422
>Marvel comics will just replace Tony or someone with a random black side character to score brownie points
Bendis is doing just that in his new comic. Latest armour user is this 15 year old black tech girl
Falcon of MURDER!
Why does MCU have the most based black guys?
Rhodey, Sam, T'Challa, Trip, Mack
I don't remember any black heroes in BvS or Man of Steel, so they're probably racist
>>82514455
Gotta remember where it all began
>>82514352
>>82514424
Why are you harping so hard on their not having established magic as a thing mattering? GoG introduced Marvel cosmic basically out of fucking nowhere, and that didn't matter in the slightest
>>82513691
I wanna fuck Aunt May, too. We should be friends.
I felt this was an excellent movie with a very strong Tony Stark arc, who played the tragic villain very well.
>someone didn't get thrown in a helicopter
Some old ladies gasped when Tony immediately blasted Falcon down when he was like
>I'm sorry
So when will Thanos actually do shit?
Strange or GotG2?
>>82514453
But she was a mutant in the comics
yo but real talk
[/spoiler]spider signal[/spoiler]
>>82514453
They literally say it in the movie. Pay attention before you flip out.
>>82514185
yes, plus
>Redwing drone
>wings acting as shields
>rockets
>>82514473
Because none of them are stereotypes.
>>82514485
Yeah but she still used and learned magic because she was manipulated at birth by a demon I think.
>>82514346
>scene where Bucky wakes up restrained happens
>"your mother's name was..."
>someone in the front yells
>"Martha?"
>whole fucking theater laughs
How the hell was this NOT a clusterfuck?
A cast this huge and the Russos didn't make it messy.
ANT.
>>82514473
They're written by capable screenwriters who have probably actually spoken to black people for more than ten minutes, which is more than can be said for most comic writers.
>>82514515
Balance. Very fine balance and slow introduction with only one big action set piece in the middle.
>>82514481
He's not in GotG 2, so Thor: Ragnarok is the best chance. I'm betting he shows up at the end of the movie to literally rip Asgard in half with his bare hands/power gem in front of Thor and Loki just to send a message.
>>82514524GIANT
>>82514480
>>82514432
>>82514346
>>82514403
>>82514436
>my theater was packed with old and young alike
>It was dead-silent throughout. Same when I watched X-Men DOFP
>>82514453
Wanda's mutant power was Hex stuff- as in upping the odds in her and her teammates favor, and making her enemies unlucky.
They then bullshit that somehow into reality warping powers on par with Pheonix, but it still not magic.
>>82514530
>Blasting Steve's based wingman
This is when I realised Tony Stank was beyond saving.
>>82514515
Because Based Russos
>Jim Rash cameo
We need the Bank Manager in Spider Man: Homecoming
TIME TO MASTURBATE TOTom Holland
>>82514515
Vision, Hawkeye, Scarlet Witch, Spider-Man, Black Panter, all of them were done so sparingly and essentially confined to one orgasmic scene. So fucking good. Left me wanting more of everything.
>>82514504
I thought Dr Strange helped her because her mutant power oddly was similar but not exactly magic? Fuck this is confusing
>>82514437
well done anon
>>82514530
Yeah, after Rhodey hit the ground the movie shifts tone a considerable amount. The theatre mood reflected that. It was a lot more sombre and heavy after it.
>>82514554
Donald Glover in Black Panther
>>82514549
>not magic
It's been magic for a long fucking time.
Writer Kurt Busiek redefined the Scarlet Witch's powers, and maintained that it was in fact an ability to manipulate chaos magic, activated due to the demon Chthon changing her mutation at birth into an ability to wield and control magical energy. This was offered as an explanation for her various feats that seemed to go beyond probability alteration, as well as why her hexes almost always have an effect that is favorable to her goals. During Busiek's run as well as the subsequent run by Geoff Johns, she was shown to be capable of large-scale spells given enough concentration and time to shape the chaos magic to a specific goal, including the resurrection of Wonder Man.
>I think the challenges that we faced with [Scarlet Witch] are going to be challenges that they face on Doctor Strange, as well — of trying to keep it not, you know, not wanting to necessarily go too comic-book graphic. If you want to try and give it a level of realism, you have to try and, you have to infuse that realism into that sort of graphic style.
>>82514554
>Abed in Winter Soldier
>Dean Pelton in Civil War
If this is how I must get my Community fix now, so be it.
>>82514064
The whole theater laughed loud during that scene.
>>82514554
>>Jim Rash cameo
Not only that but he was literally the dean.
>>82514139
>>82514199
>yfw Stank's team doesn't have any cool gimmick powers
>>82514581
>that explanation
Fuck, I'm old and haven't read anything with Scarlet Witch in forever.
>>82513987
>>82514115
>>82514057
This is wrong. Mutant registration and the Registration Act that Civil War revolves around are two separate things. Mutant registration was already a thing at the time. The Registration Act was about all superheroes, not just mutants.
>>82514584
Community hasn't been good since season 2.Which is when the Russos stopped carrying it and just directed a couple of episodes, incidentally.
>>82514619
No, actually, it was about Mutants.
Man they handled the whole "superpowered people being dangerous" thing a hundred times better than BvS
BvS:
>superman is a god and that's scary!
>...
>yeah that's about all we got
Civil War
>superheroes cause destruction and people die
>but more would die without
>but we need oversight
>but oversight means agendas and not being able to help some people or stop others
>so on and so forth
BvS writers BTFO
>>82514620
I just miss their faces anon.
First for le crazy man of /v/ for JJJ
>>82514635
BvS was just a terrible fucking movie.
RIP
>>82513524
Falcon game when?
>>82514182
Wanda was just following whoever and is still suffering the same dilemma she was going through in AoU, Rhodes is just loyal to Tony and only sided with him just because, and Bucky's the living MacGuffin for like half the movie. Their problems are much more different.
>>82514620
Season 3 was crazy but still funny as fuck and had the best episode of the entire series
Season 4 is shit, everyone knows that
Season 5 had a few great episodes with Donglover and was decent after that
Season 6 was just plain funny even with all the change
>>82514638
What you miss most is the songs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXkkdp-HACE
>>82514635
There will be plenty of time for us to discuss how much better this movie was at that plot point later, but for now can we keep the console wars to a minimum?
Avengers 3 was a pretty good movie.
>>82514552
Man, give Iron Man more credit. OnceZemo let him know that he'd been played, he immediately rushed to help Steve and Bucky fight the Super Soviet 5.
>>82514346
Mine was when Cap kissed that chick and Bucky with Falcon chuckled.
>>82514657
don't do this
>>82514646
I'm just sad that the future looks grim for DC. I was really looking forward to BvS more than Civil War too.
>>82514064
i loved sam and bucky's interactions.
>>82514689
DC is not attempting to innovate or create. They are attempting to copy. They will never be successful if they just copy.
>>82513809
a e s t h e t i c s
>>82514700
They'll make their money. Justice League will make a billion easy.
>>82514656
The remaining seasons weren't bad, definitely better than most of what was going around at the time (unless 30 rock still on?), but it sure as fuck wasn't early Community level, which seemed to indicate Arrested Development potential.
>>82514685
Ludwig is fucking amazing. I know he's doing something high-profile now, but I can't remember what.
>>82514673
And then chimped out 5 minutes later.
Some chicks yelled "oh my god" when Cap flexed his biceps while holding down the chopper.
>>82514700
Sad thing is that they got Batman great, save for him being bat of manslaughter.
>>82514424
you've seen one trailer and know almost nothing about the movie and you're already bashing it.
Not sure if troll or just very stupid.
>>82514530
I don't understand why people are angry at Tony right here? His best friend almost died right in front of him so of course he's going to lash out.
>>82514723
It's like Iron Man's weakness is his heart or something.
>>82514722
For sure, season 1 and 2 are pure gold, but the silver in the later seasons is still great
>>82513691
He wasn't really needed. He lost to cap because Cap was a better fighter, but he clealry styled hard on everyone else.
>>82514673
Yeah, and then he flipped his shit knowing full well that Bucky wasnt in control of his actions whenhe kiled his parents
>>82513809
It looked fantastic. Something epic (in the literal sense) about it.
>>82514655
Rhodes was responsible in the sense that hedidn't blame Tony or Vision for his maiming since it was his call, but he's still going to support the Accords by his own volition. Bucky realised that he needs to deprogram his HYDRA brainwashing before he's allowed to walk the streets, and Wanda decides not to be afraid of her powers anymore.
>Spider-Man vs. Ant-Man
>Oh, please, pull anAT-AT takedown
>They do, and reference it
>>82513786
Most of the quips were by Spider-Man anyway.
>>82514437
when Cap finally kissed Sharon, I shouted "Murrika!" in my best Texas accent. I got a few laughs.
SPIDER-MAN OP PLZ NERF
>>82514717
Not if it gets shit reviews like BvS.
>>82514727
and they said capes don't do enough fanservice for womenand gay guys
>>82514710
>>82514717
I feel like DC is reactive rather than innovative. They just look at the popular shit and go "alright now how do we repackage this?"
>>82513786
The quips/bantz/whatever worked because they weren't fighting to stop the end of the world. It was friends fighting friends.
>>82514717
Yes, the people who flocked to make BvS featuring WW a billion dollar movie will rush to see Cyborg and Aquaman on the silver screen!
>>82514475
Because of THOR.
>It's not magic it's just really advanced technology
>>82514752
I don't know why, but that entire bit just seemedSUPERMANas fuck to me.
>>82514756
What was YFW Spidey asked about the Empire Strikes Back?
>>82513772
Anthony Mackie is a funny guy, so I'm quite surprised how Sam has this commanding presence in this movie. He seemed like a legit 2nd-in-command to Cap especially from the middle of the airport fight all the way to the RAFT.
>>82514782
They see Marvel making money so they do the same. It's how the movie industry works. See how we've gotten so many dark and gritty reboots since The Dark Knight made over a billion dollars.
>>82514769
Vision and Wanda are the true OPs, good thing the movie was smart enough to make them battle each other
>>82514804
MFW was:
DISNEY OWNS MARVEL AND STAR WARS LOL
>>82514756
first thing that came into mind for me was actually pic related
>>82514749
>>82514723
You gotta wonder if he was doing it out of blind anger or if he was consciously going afterBucky to hurt Steve for lying to him for nearly two years.
>>82514769
His villains are even more OP than he. Peter needs all the help he can get.
>>82514803
Marvel does Superman better than DC
Captain America is my Superman
>>82513852
I like the distinction between being BP and being King of Wakanda, and how that'll clearly come to head in his movie.
>>82514811
Is that picture the embodiment of Reddit?
>>82513825
I wanna see Pym and Cap in a room now.
He probably had to approve of Scott taking the suit, but I imagine he said yes the instant he heard it would piss off Tony Stark.
Fuck, now we gotta see Pym and Stark together.
>>82514803
someone photoshop thesymbol of hopeon his shirt.
>>82514346
>people clapping in movie theatres
FUCKING AMERICUNTS
>>82513470
Huh.So that's what it looks like when invoking a parent's death to elicit an emotional response is done properly. Neat.
>>82513772
A one-arm riot shield that can shoot missiles.
>>82514727
SPLOOSH!
AYO HOL UP , how come Cap didn't even mention Rhodey on his love letter to Stark?
Technically speaking his indirectly responsible for Rhodeys accident.
>inb4 he doesn't know
I need a drawfag to make a cap bucky falcon road trip image
"That shield doesn't belong to you"
>yfw"Did it?"
>>82514842
25 YEARS!!!
>>82514833
o shit waddup
There were a few moments when BP was fighting Bucky and he did something to his metal arm, I'm not sure what it was. Looked like he was bending it or something? Did anyone else see this?
>>82514842
Partially because it had the opposite effect as BvS so it made more sense
>>82514669
This isn't about DC. It's about Warner Bros. being really really bad at film making, because they don't seem to understand how to let creators create and take their hands off the wheel
>>82513470
Hey does anybody got that pic of Tony going "WHY DID YOU SAY JAMES?"
>Clint holding Wanda hand during her escape
:3
>>82514836
>scene where Pym and Stark talk face to face
>serious shit going down
>mild threats being made
>scene where juan punch man was spying on the two and retells the encounter to Scott
>>82514885
His fathers ring does some magnetic shit. I think it's implied that Bucky's arm was vibranium.
>>82514436
One of my favorite bits
>>82513470
But can he beat Eminem in a rap battle now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2hiFbuQ-Qw
>>82514888
I know that man.I just don't want Snyderfags shitting up the first reaction thread I dropped into.
>>82514805
Conversely, Rhodey is the calmer influence on Tony. It's a good parallel. I like how both the air-force black sidekicks were arguing even before their respective senpai's voiced their opinions.
Details like that make a huge fucking difference in characterization, and the Russos surgically make the right call on these kind of details every time. Everything is so clear in their movies, and even the things they aren't particularly great at (CGI integration, making music stand out) start to become meaningless because of your engagement. Heck, I could see them directing a dialogue based Avengers movie without a single action beat and making it compelling to watch.
As a guy who knows very little about Black Panther, how would you adapt M'Baku The Man Ape for a Black Panther movie?
>>82514888
>This isn't about DC. It's about Warner Bros. being really really bad at film making, because they don't seem to understand how to let creators create and take their hands off the wheel
That was WB's problem with Green Lantern.
They learned their lesson with Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, only they also decided to trust an absolute fucking retard with said wheel.
>>82514211
Until the next Avengers movie comes around and we get basically a revamped version of the return of Shield by way of the return of the Avengers, possibly backed by the Wakandan military.I'm planning on commissioning someone to draw me smirking next to him and showing him video of said event. "How does it feel knowing that it really WAs all for nothing? And that you're a pathetic hypocrite?"
>>82514917
Red Skull pls
>>82514924
>The Man-Ape gained superhuman powers by consuming the flesh of a sacred white gorilla and bathing in white gorilla blood, enchanting him through the mystical transference of the abilities of the rare Wakandan white gorilla. M'Baku's mystically augmented powers include superhuman strength, speed, agility, stamina and durability equal to that of the mystical Wakandan white gorilla.
>that stupid fucking shit
>>82513825
I'm guessing he would respect Cap for what he does but not be a fan of him being so iconic
Original Ant-Man was a stealth thing and he seemed like he regretted doing it a bit
>>82514904
Yeah I thought they were going for something like that but never followed up on it
>>82514922
>making music stand out
there were really good tracks for panther and spidey
>>82514836
>Scott: I mean, I don't like the guy that much either, but give Iron Man a little more credit; he risked his life to stop a nuke from hitting the States, just like you.
>Hank: He also created a psychotic maniac that nearly destroyed the world with misused technology! I sure as hell never did anything like that!
>Scott looks sideways at a picture of Hank and Cross smiling
>Hank strides over to it and slams it facedown on the table
>>82514411
I thought the effects were way closer to Inception, least the teaser.
>>82514928
I really hope there was a guy on set who just stopped whatever job he was doing and shouted "THE FUCK ARE WE DOING PEOPLE?"
>>82514587
It was certainly lively in the theater I went to as well despite it being early on a weekday afternoon at half-capacity. Lots of chuckles and giggling at
>Spiderman's quips
>Antman's quips (You're speaking to your conscience)
>Falcon's quips
But during the last part where Ironman and Capalmost kill each other, the theater became silent and serious. That part was really painful to watch.
>>82514211
>spoiler
I can see it now. Tony, while trying to trace more of the remnants of HYDRA comes across files about the Winter Soldier initiative. He learns about how Bucky Barnes was a shell, his personality overwritten by that of the Winter Solider. He sees video of Bucky trying to escape, to fight back, and slowly being turned into something that just isn't him. And as he learns about the kind of conditioning they put him through, he takes a look at the prototype for his machine.
>>82514964
Even better for comic fans who get to snort over the Ultron thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpPx7E27Bc8
>>82514971
>Your conscience scene
I was almost in tears at that scene.
>>82514944
So yeah my question stands given the material we're fucking dealing with
>>82514268
It helps that this movie had two writers and two directors while Whedon thought he could do all of that by himself.
>>82514955
Yeah, but they always put the songs on too low a volume. They did the same thing on Star Wars. I left the theatre thinking there were no original songs, because they always put the original ones on 11 and the new ones (like Rey's theme, which is fucking beautiful) were always lower than the dialoge.
That said, I love the main Civil War theme. It's a bit cliched, but it fit very well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyiS1nXlqJE
I think it should've been louder and more of a needle-drop. Might just be preference, though.
>>82514411
Sorry, the trailer looked really confusing and off the wall stupid. The effects were like Inception and Interstellar shit and without understanding the comics you have no clue who the guy is and that he is a Sorcerer of actual magic spells.
It's going to flop.
Guardians of the Galaxy looked crazy and fun. Doctor Strange doesn't.
>>82514316
Eh, it's dark comedy GotG with crazier shit going on. I'm still looking forward to it, if only for the visuals.
I have to say I kinda smiled when I noticed Rhodey and Sam talking to each other. Black sidekicks man
>>82514924
I would do him like Zemo
>>82514903
>Pym hated Howard Stark
>the twist being that he thought Obadiah Stane was an all right guy.
>>82514524
>1/6 scale
Not "Possible 1:1 scale"
>>82515013
This happens literally every time.
When will you people tire of being wrong?
Civil War Bests Top 5
1. Spider-Man
2. Ant-Man
3. Black Panther
4. Vision
5. Falcon
Did Spider-Man's spider sense go off at that door? He made a noise like "woah" and ducked something coming from behind him.
It was really brief.
>>82515003
>>82514971
>Your conscience scene
Tony: Not buying it. You don't sound a thing like myex-girlfriend.
>>82515023
>He wears a white suit made from a gorilla
Saw it over a week ago so things are a bit hazyWhy did Zemo call the maid to deliver breakfast to his room if he wasn't there? Only so she could discover the dead doctor? Why?Also was the real doctor supposed to look like both Russos combined? Heh
Anyway, it was fucking solid. 8/10. Not as good as TWS but still superior to both Avengers movies. Based Russos + Markus and McFeely. Can't wait to see them deliver on Thanos.
>>82514924
Tarzan
Do you think Zemo's hypocricy will be brought up to him in future films?
>>82514300
>My name is Clint
>I don't care
THE BANTER PANTHER
>>82515013
Dr. Strange depends a fuck ton on complex VFX that aren't possibly finalized or maybe even conceptualized, though. It's hard to sell something you don't have prepared.
Usually they release stunt footage and fist-fights or something more physical. Dr. Strange will have little of that to show, I assume. They can't just show unfinished VFX because it will lessen the impact of it in this particular case.
>>82514999
I still just...what the hell is this? Why did they make this?
>>82514530
Jesus, Sam's ragdoll physics
>Sony's studio still doing the Venom movie
I doubt that after this. Amy Pascal better just cough up the rights entirely at this point. They can't EVER do something this good.
>>82515013
>Guardians is gonna flop!
>Ant-Man is gonna flop!
>Doctor Strange is gonna flop!
Feige cannot be stopped
>>82515071
ANTS
>>82515050
Yup.
>>82515055
>Why did Zemo call the maid to deliver breakfast to his room if he wasn't there? Only so she could discover the dead doctor? Why?
So that the news would leak to Tony who would then realise he was being played, then he would join Steve and Bucky and then Zemo would play the tape.
He had it planned. Timed.
>>82515050
Whe Tony revealed his costume? He had grabbed it and pushed it into his closet
>>82515050
Yes. That was my immediate thought as well.
>>82515055
>Only so she could discover the dead doctor? Why?
So the news would get to Tony and he'd follow along, I think.
>>82515055
What if getting caught was part of his plan
>>82515040
1. Black Panther (Perfect)
2. Ant-Man (Perfect)
3. Spider-Man (Perfect)
4. Falcon (Dat Gear)
5. Hawkeye (Finally 616 Clint)
Special mention to Iron Man for ACTING and War Machine for being a fucking tank again.
>>82515040
Civil War Bests Top 5
1. Ants
2. ANTS
3. ANTS!
4. ANT
5. MAN
>TFW SPIDER-MAN SHOWED UP FOR REAL
HERE COMES THE SUN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9QmgerbeL4
>>82515055So that Tony knows he's been had and will follow Cap and Bucky to secret soldier base and reveal Bucky killed Tony's parents.
>>82515055
>Why did Zemo call the maid to deliver breakfast to his room if he wasn't there? Only so she could discover the dead doctor? Why?
He wanted to get caught. He wanted them to know so that he could twist the knife.
>>82515013
People have been predicting a Marvel flop since GotG
>>82514755
I still wouldn't put Bucky at the same type of responsibilities as the rest though. He just remembered what Hydra put in him and that it was still working and that almost nothing to do with the whole Civil War thing. Same with Wanda and her powers.
>>82514885
Rage is a far more effective emotion.
You coulda had this DC! All you had to do was NOT FUCK UP Green Lantern.
Now you'd think I'd have gotten over it, but seeing as they still have the same problem of having shitty writers and directors but are just going with it, so am I. Fuckin' WB.
>>82514999
I'd expect this kind of trailer from deadpool
Still, gave us the best ant-man reaction image.
>>82514647
I loved his weirdly raspy Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain voice.
>>82514572
>>82514742
It was also a hard thing for Sam. Remember, in TWS, he said he retired from the Army after his fellow Falcon suit buddy was shot down and he couldn't save him.
>>82515050
I liked how his spidey sense only worked when he wasn't talking shit or being cocky.
>>82515055
I'm guessing it was one of the Russos. There was a cameo in Winter Soldier too
What are some ships from this movie?
>>82515013
>Dr.Strange is feige's pet project
>flop
The movie that will flop is Captain Marvel
>>82514630
No, actually, it was about ethics in superheroing. Not mutants. Read the fucking comics.
>>82514211
What was that new invention again? That sonicboom glove thing?
>>82515129
>I DON'T WORK LIKE DAT NO MO
He was so cornball and mook villain, I loved it.
>>82515055
Not sure if he planned it that far but that revealaccelerated Tony's investigation into the bombing and indirectly lured him to Siberia
>>82515141
I don't know if the Raft really counts as a ship but it was in the movie
>>82515149
I think he means the memory thing.
Zemo was fucking great. It's good to have a villain who's all brains and never even throws a punch at the heroes. I think the only person he was directly violent to was that one old Hydra guy.
So is it me or does this movie have the same general plotline as BvS
a generic villain decides to manipulate heroes into killing each other because of crazy/PTSD
Heroes fight each other and have severe emotions about parental figures
This is also a crucial element to the fight and how its resolved
Heroes eventually stop fighting and deliver a philosophical retrospect about their actions throughout the film.
I'm amazed that two films in the same genre by two different companies can just randomly have the same elements
BvS is still average AF though
>>82515141
Bucky and Falcon on a road trip.
>>82515141
Bucky/Steve
Nat/T'Challa
Tony/Aunt May
Agent 13/muh dick
>>82515132
Oh shit, I didn't make that connection. He did seem very concerned about Rhodey at the raft though.
>>82515055
Joe Russo was reprising his role from TWS, dead in the bathtub with the Mario moustache and the retarded look.
In TWS's directors' commentary they had talked about how they had filmed some of his scenes with a moustache, but in the re-shoots they couldn't get it to stick, so they had to CGI it out in post. This time it came back in full force and I was laughing like a maniac.
>>82515141
besides CapxBucky?
Some WandaxVision but not romantic, merely half-felt platonic.
>>82515146
Captain Marvel won't flop just off being the first marvel female lead movie and she's debuting in Infinity War so that should give her a boast
>>82515141
Tony/Aunt May
Vision/Wanda
Zemo/Mrs. Zemo
The gay is in your heads.
>>82515149
Dead Parents Simulator $1,000,000,000
>>82515013
low quality bait, or perhaps autism. either way ignore the fucker.
>>82515129
It's great
>>82514525
Semi related, but it pisses me off when people say "why is a black man directing Black Panther? It shouldn't be about race!" but then go around and say "movie set in a super secret and advanced African nation ruled by blacks? lel good luck making that"
>>82514211
When was this?
>>82514850
>inb4 he doesn't know
How would he? He wasn't there when it happened, Tony never mentioned it, and Cap didn't interact with any other Avenger until after he wrote the letter?
>>82515178
It's a weird thing in Hollywood, where there will be two or three movies with basically the same plot released at the same time.
whats the point of the spidersignal
>>82515189
>>82515169
Oh yeah. Just too distracted by the fact that there was a CGIed younger RDJ there and that Pepper Potts broke up with him.
>>82514530
>Rhodey falling because of Vision attacking Falcon
>Falcon, despite being against both of these guys, tries to catch Rhodey
The fact that everyone is still honestly pretty friendly with each other really makes this extra tragic.
>>82515146
Captain Marvel won't flop because it has MARVEL in the name.
99% of my normie friends have no clue who Dr. Strange is and I've heard many of them already say it's an inception rip off.
>>82514486
I screamed, real talk. The fucking madmen actually did it.
>>82515178
In Zemo's case he just stoked the fires of a real conflict that had been brewing for a while, and simply learning about his evil scheme isn't enough to undo the damage.
Once Lex decided to tell his entire stupid plan on the rooftop it all came undone once everyone realized they didn't actually have to go along with it.
>>82514422
Well he replaced Daredevil that one time...
Two thoughts:
1. Why did I associate black panther with banging storm and not being fuck awesome
2. Where was the punisher when I needed him the most
>>82515188
How would they even do Captain Marvel? Im conflicted seeing the Kree used again
>>82514999
The Civil War one is breddy gud too
https://youtu.be/ICbjY07BEIg
>Sam using his wings as a shield
I can see it now
>Steve: Did you get that idea from me using my shield?
>Sam: N-no
>>82515178
Zemo had a concrete motivation.
Lex's motivation was...his dad was mean?
>>82515220
fanservice
>>82515227
Yeah, you could really see them all pulling their punches, from Hawkeye only using babby arrows to Iron Man and War Machine using those non-lethal sonic cannons.
He did nothing wrong.
>>82515116
>All you had to do was NOT FUCK UP Superman Returns
Fix'd
>>82514437
You are the hero we deserve, Anon.
>>82515227
>The fact that everyone is still honestly pretty friendly with each other really makes this extra tragic.
Yeah, man. Ultron blasted them both out of a window. That kind of moment bonds people together for life.
>>82515195
It should be an important distinction that Black Panther is an African character and not an African American character, so he faces different struggles. Unless they go full on wet dream with him and make it a 'whites should've behaved like this' kind of thing.
That said, after Creed I can't see anyone tackling legacy themes anywhere near as well as Coogler, regardless of colour or gender, so I'm happy it all aligned nicely.
>>82515257
no i mean what the fuck does it do
>>82515141
Wanda and my dick. honorable mention to Sharon.
>>82515262
Zemo was pretty relatable desu
Very cool villain
>>82515282
Just a high-powered flashlight
>>82515141
There was a Quinjet, I think.
>>82515234
Yeah, it was neat that Zemo had done it 35 minutes ago.
What was the best thing in Civil War and why was it BW's haircut?
>>82515245
>Why did I associate black panther with banging storm
Because for a long time Marvel Comics didn't know what to do with Black Panther, and thought getting two of their biggest black characters married together would help. It didn't.
>>82515282
Not that anon , but come on its pretty obvious that its something like a flashlight with computer shit on thanks to Tony.
>>82515284
sharon is a butterface
>>82515220
You see some icons on the rim. Looks like a GUI for some techie aid.
>>82515259
>Black Widow: Are we still going to be friends after this?
>Hawkeye: It depends on how hard you hit me.
>Wander: What? You were holding your punches.
Black Widow and Hawkeye BFFs 4 LIFE!
>>82515262He killed that innocent UN psychiatrist.
Other than that he was legit as fuck.
>And the Avengers? They just left.
Will Zemo ever wear the sock?
>>82515063
>"How does it feel--"
>"To win?"
>"To be a hypocrite."
>"..."
>"What made their lives more special than that of the people who died in that bombing, or that doctor you replaced, or the countless people who died as a result of that power outage?"
>"... It wasn't just for--"
>"Don't make shit up. This wasn't for Sokovia, this wasn't because they were killed, this was because you needed someone to blame. You couldn't accept that the bad guys were dead and gone. You wanted to be the one to exact revenge. So you blamed them."
>"The Avengers are responsible--"
>"If the Avengers are responsible for their deaths, then what does that make you?"
>"No worse than--"
>"No, absolutely worse. You see, did the Avengers ever leave a psychologist with a promising career to bleed out in a hotel room? Did the avengers ever *intentionally* knock out the power for an entire city, knocking out life support at hospitals? Did the avengers ever personally build and detonate a bomb occupied by people who only wanted to save lives and prevent more deaths? Did the Avengers ever *intentionally, personally* kill a civilian?"
>"..."
>"If your family was half as wonderful as you act like they are, then wherever they are, they've lost a lot of respect for you."
>>82515270
I didn't do it alone. Heck, I didn't even start it. I just did my duty as an androentomophile.
>>82515141
Wanda and her cell.
>>82515262
It's cool that in the movie where they reveal the new Spider-Man, they also give Toby Maguire a role.I'm joking, guys.
>>82515290
THUNDERBOLTS MOVIE WHEN
>>82515307
>FOUR MOVIES to get her hair right
>>82515307
IM2 had a lot of powder on that
>>82515307
It's probably second best. I simply don't understand why they can't make her look like the Iron Man 2 goddess she was. I realize she's older but seriously. They weren't even trying in Winter Solder.
A little concern that I have with the movie continuity is how little they mention Quicksilver at all in the film. He was only heavily implied by Hawkeye's "debt" to Scarlet Witch, but other than that, his presence is barely touched upon. They focus much more on Wanda's anxiety as a vessel of uncontrollable power and somewhat forgot that she might still be in pain at the loss of her brother who was always there for her. Obviously, Vision exists to fill up that void, but this little absent detail does get to me when I look at her role in the movie.
>>82515337
I wish Tobey would cameo asJameson's Hoffman
>Tony enlisted a fucking teenager to fight in a war, under false pretenses
Yet no one gave a fuck. What the hell?
>>82515307
Jesus, I hadn't noticed how bad her hair was in AoU.
>>82515307
CW > IM2 > AOU > Avengers > TWS
>>82515282
I assumed it was probably schematics or something since Stark made it. Peter probably hasn't fully explored what his suit can do yet since he only used it for like 15 minutes.
>>82515341
But they got it SO right
>>82515347
Bullshit man, Civil War is top tier. IM2 haircut looks corny now. I think Winter Soldier they were trying to make her hair a simple cut since she's on the run
>>82515365
Nobody knew his age.
>>82515337
Tobey and Garfield should be hired to docatering.
>>82515255
>Zemo had a motivation
He's an asshole whose family died because the avengers saved the world.
His motivation is weak although better than Luthor's but only slightly
Everyone in this movie bitching about the avengers reminds me of the MOS shitposters who are literally whining about Superman saving the planet when they could all be dead if he did nothing
The socovia accords are also dumb
UN oversight for a random assortment of vigilantes?
>>82515063
He understands what he did was wrong. He acknowledges thatkilling T'Challawas a bad thing to do to Panther. He was just so empty and hateful after loosinghis entire familythat he just didn't care and wanted his enemies to suffer.
>>82515365
It was more a capture mission. He assumed the kid's webs would make it easy to wrap up Cap and the rest.
No one was going to kill anyone.
>>82515365
>>82515378
Spider-Man was unneccesary for the whole story
>>82515186
>Some WandaxVision but not romantic, merely half-felt platonic.
Poor Vizh. All he wanted was to keep his Waifu safe from the outside world. Can any of us say we wouldn't do the same?
>>82515365
Yeah, I thought Spidey seemed a bit forced. It would be neat if Tony asked him for his web fluid, but he insisted on coming along or something.
>>82515248
easy. in infinity war, she's air support for the "legal" avengers. does badass things as a normal human, etc. gets shot down when Thanos kicks everyone's ass. in the confusion, the guardians take her with them when they flee back into space. (or maybe just Phyla-vell takes her with her)
in her movie, she gets powers and takes the name. rallies the guardians, Nova corps, and maybe Kree to come back to earth.
infinity war part 2, comes back, big fight, blah blah blah. she'll end up in charge of the "legal" avengers, or maybe guarding earth from a space station like her current solo run.
>>82514808
Vision didn't even need to try to tackle Giant-Man to the ground.
>>82515365
>Yet no one gave a fuck. What the hell?
Everyone was holding back. Peter was also told to just web people up and avoid direct fighting. After things got too serious, Tony ordered Peter to go home.
>>82515363
Or as a security guard or something.
>>82515376
>Bullshit man
Maybe you're right. She definitely looked best in IM2 though but I think maybe it actually is because she's grown out of her looks a little bit. She's got a round face now.
>>82515393
Shame he accidentally killed all her optimism.
>>82515307
You can tell Whedon prefers the cropped look.
>>82515013
Yeah it will flop.
Just like Ant-man.
>>82515310
are you gay?
>>82515365
>fight in a war
He told him to keep his distance and web people, while he and a team subdued the other team.
>>82515382
The complaint about Man of Steel is that he saves the planet but in the most boring way possible, there's no fun or feeling of a heroic act. It's like it's his boring ass 9 to 5 job to save people.
I don't care if Superman saves the whole universe, you have to get me pumped for it.
>>82514346
Mexican here... Do people really clap during movies? That seems annoying...
>>82515382
>motivation is weak
How? It tied into the entire movie's theme of accountability. He held the Avengers accountable for his family's death and took it to the extreme like a villain would.
>>82515399
But I thought CM was before Infinity War?
>>82515326
As predicted, Wanda is Team Cap's big gun.Well her and giant Paul Rudd.
>>82515417
Ant-Man and Guardians were clear Marvel movies.
I heard normies talking about them.
My normies and work normies never mention Doctor Strange, and when I have heard it, people say it's an inception rip off.
Ant-Man was
>Oh I like Paul Rudd
Guardians was
>That looks hilarious
>>82515307
I just like that they keep changing it, and I hope they change it again for IW. It's a fun thing.
Also, the beginning line when Falcon says she's paranoid:
>Anyone ever told you you're a little paranoid?
>Not to my face, why? You hear something?
That was pretty cute and TWS-y of her.
remove spider-man from the movie and nothing changes
He's fanservice
I wish I could see this movie without having seen any Marvel studio films. It would be either blow my mind or look like the silliest shit ever.
>>82515407
It's kind of weird to me that he just didn't show up after that. I guess Cap and friends let him leave because he's so young, but it would have been nice to see that happen.
>>82514955
Aside from the WS theme (i always lost it when the weird scragling sound came in), I don't think I noticed the music all that much.
>>82515063
>Do you think Zemo's hypocricy will be brought up to him in future films?
Just like angry-Tony, he didn't care. That was why he wanted to off himself after he succeeded. After winning, there was nothing more for him to live for. He is aware he became a villain, just as Tony was aware that Bucky was not to blame at the end. Just because you know you shouldn't do something doesn't stop you from wanting to.
>>82513814
Falcon was great though.
>wing shields
>Spidey you talk too much
>move over
>Redwing bonk
>>82515414
This is all Tony Stark's fault.
>>82515446
Spider-Man was totally unnecessary.
But then, if we want to go down that road, all the heroes are unnecessary except Captain America, Tony, and Bucky.
>>82515446
I am completely fine with this fanservice as he was awesome. He took nothing away from the movie.
POST BEST KEKS:
>Vision: A pinch of paprika... A pinch
>Tony Stank
>Scott: I've got something big but I can't hold it for very long
>Scott: Anybody have any orange slices?
>Scott's nerdboner for Cap
>Spidey: You have the right to remain silent!
>Scott: AHH SOMETHING JUST FLEW IN ME
>Vision just phasing into Wanda's room and being told to use the door
>Spidey: I... I have homework
>Spidey: HOLY SHIT
>Spidey: He also told me to go for your legs!
BONUS BUCKY/SAM ROUND
>Bucky: Could you move your seat forward?
>Sam: No
>Bucky: You couldn't have done that earlier?
>Sam: I hate you
>Sam and Bucky's reactions to Steve and Sharon kissing
>Bucky: He's going to tear himself in half?
>Sam telling Nat to pet Redwing
>Sam: Everybody's got a gimmick these days
Man, this movie had so many great moments. There's humour when it needs it, and then it's serious and emotional when necessary. BASED RUSSOS
>>82515248
- Avengers doing space shit in Infinity War 1
- New hotshot pilot Carol Danvers is a pilot for them
- gets shot down and gets super powers, maybe touching an infinity stone or some shit, her spaceship crashes
- end of the film she's presumed dead
- after credits is her walking away from the crash
>>82515446
And?
>>82515444
>that part where he tries to get her to call the drone Redwing.
The Russos do such a good job with the characters. Wish we got more time to see the New Avengers operating.
>>82515460
>OH MY GOD HE HAS CLAWS WANDA PLEASE HELP
AAAAAAAAAAA MR STARK HELP
>>82515431
Him holding the avengers accountable for his dead family is stupid as they would be dead if the avengers did nothing.
I suppose you can say he's crazy but the film is juxtaposing this with the very real political idea that the avengers saving the day is bad because people die.
>>82515448
I wish I could see it without knowing about Spider-Man. Seriously, if they told us that the ASM series was cancelled, and didn't tell us anything else about future plans for Spider-Man, then he suddenly showed up in the movie without being seen in the trailers or anything, I wouldn't have been able to stop smiling for the entire movie.
>>82514630
It was called the Super Human Registration Act in Civil War. The Mutant Registration Act was something that the SHRA was influenced by yes, but really the SHRA was caused by a combination of events. The Hull destroying the Las Vegas strip after which the Illuminati jettisoned him into space, Nick Fury's Secret War against the then dictator of Latveria Lucia Von Bardas, and yes M-Day. Without the mutants to focus on the government stsrted to focus back on super humans who acquired their powers artificially. Nitro's fight with the New Warriors in Stamford and the subsequent destruction is the straw that broke the camel's back.
>>82514304
True dat. I'm not even normally attracted to black guys and I'd gladly suck his majestic cock.
>>82515482
>WANDA IT'S STICKY AND IT'S ALL OVER ME HELP ME WANDAAAAAA
I loved Peter and Cap bonding over being kids from NYC while he was holding up a truck. I also like that they brought their relative strength kinda close together so their bit of fighting wasn't so one-sided and there was a bit of back-and-forth.
>>82515469
Surprised they didn't follow up Scott's "something flew in me" line with "so that's what that feels like."
>>82515469
What's the orange slices thing. Is that for wounds? That's the only thing I didn't get.
The Bug-Men are just fucking perfect and hilarious.
>>82515490
You're expecting a person who had his family murdered to be reasonable.
>>82515355
Given the theme of everyone being Vengeful about the loss of a loved one, bringing up that Quicksilver causes more trouble than it's worth
>>82515498
>>82514304
Did his teeth look weirdly cat-like to either of you?
>>82515482
I missed those captain america posts
I wish they didnt get tony to job to him...again.
>that's my daddy's shield
>>82515231
Ok, seriously, what even is it with you and this Inception comparison
>>82515442
Cumbersnatch is pretty popular you know.
>>82515444
I wouldn't mind a change but I think Civil War look is absolutely perfect. The hottest she's ever been IMO
>>82515446
Really, really well done fanservice. No problem from me.
>>82515469
"I'm your conscience!" was the best joke of the movie, no contest. Paul Rudd strikes again
>>82515490
>Him holding the avengers accountable for his dead family is stupid as they would be dead if the avengers did nothing.
Hydra wasn't bothering the city and Ultron was Tony's fault so it is kinda on them.
>>82514325
Apparently he was only supposed to be introduced as a cameo but they wrote his part up when it looked like the Spider-Man deal was in jeopardy, then left him in after it went through anyway. I'm glad they did. Always did like the character in the comics so I'm glad to see him kick ass without being too much of a cold overly perfect Batman ripoff like the worse runs.
>>82515490
>Him holding the avengers accountable for his dead family is stupid as they would be dead if the avengers did nothing.
It isn't stupid, it is irrational. There is a difference. The guy wanted revenge before he offs himself, and he keeps his focus by listening to his dead wife's voice message every day.
After he deleted the message, he was clearly done. But as BP said, the living are not yet done with him.
>>82515469
>Anybody have any orange slices?
I didn't get that one.
>Could you move your seat forward?
>No
This was goddamn hilarious. It's so petty.
I wonder if Strange would resurrect Quickslav?
>>82515074
Just make a vague allusion to either Raimi-man or ASM and do Agent Venom.
>>82515141
Aunt May gonna get the Iron Man
Anyone noticed that Wanda's tits were bangin in this movie? Even more than ScarJo's.
Did anyone else's theatre miss the "And he told me to go for your legs" joke"? Only heard a few laughs but I loved it since it's really self deprecating like the "your shield doesn't obey the laws of physics" thing.
>>82515539
There's a weird cityscape in the sky scene in the Doctor Strange trailer which is similar to a scene from Inception, but that's really the only similaritynot counting the general tone of the trailer because Inception-style trailers have been a popular fad for a while now and aren't limited to Marvel movies.
Just saw the movie, I really liked it and thought everything was pretty well done.
But at the same time I don't sympathize with any of the characters, in fact I kinda feel like I don't like any of them right now(except spiderman though he was pretty much just a one shot gimmick). I guess I dislike Tony the least and I think he was supposed to be kinda the bad guy at the end.
>>82515567
Look at their nudes.
Hers are bigger than Scarjo's.
>>82515510
>What's the orange slices thing. Is that for wounds? That's the only thing I didn't get.
In the UK and places like Australia, orange slices are what you hand out to players at half time in a sports game. In America I guess Energy Drinks is used instead.
>>82515542
>I wouldn't mind a change but I think Civil War look is absolutely perfect. The hottest she's ever been IMO
I agree, but at this point it's her thing to change. Interesting how they also "forced" her to change the side in which she parts her hair. I don't know how it works for women, but I don't think anyone EVER can change the side in which they part it.
>>82515574
Then Tonyfires those binders at Cap's legs later on.
>>82515552
He said going giant made him pass out in the lab.
Orange slices are a good source of B12 which helps with lightheadedness.
>>82515469
>Sam: ...so you like cats?
>Bird costume
>Clint: I retire for 5 minutes and it all goes to shit
>Sam: I don’t know if you have ever been in a fight before, but there isn't usually this much talking
>>82515510
>>82515552
>Orange slices
Probably just classic Paul Rudd improv
>>82515542
>"I'm your conscience!" was the best joke of the movie, no contest. Paul Rudd strikes again
"We don't talk much these days"
>>82515510
>>82515590
>>82515601
Orange slices is also a great fucking way of getting ANTS.
>>82515589
Oh the we have the plastic ones.
>>82514647
I was looking forward to him being imprisoned on the raft. The one blemish on the film for me.
Am I the only here who feels that Wanda is being set up as the MC tier womyn of MCU?
Forgive my stupidity, but when was it revealed that Cap knew Bucky killed Tony's parents? I don't remember that being a part of any of the other movies.
How did you guys feels about Cap beating Iron Man?
>introduce the fucking Raft
>no supervillain gets imprisoned on it
why
>>82515626
You can't just leave orange slices lying around. Do you want Paul Rudd? Because this is how you get PAUL RUDD!
>>82515644
Of course she is, I doubt Nat will be able to do much in IW.
>>82515645
At the end of Winter Soldier, Black Widow hands Cap Bucky's file and warns him about what he may find.
>>82515645
Winter Soldier.
>>82515393
yeah, I can. I would know better than to keep my waifu a prisoner. She was just going to the store for god's sake.
that line got me thinking, actually. is there a Walgreens down the road from the Avenger's compound or something? Do they know the staff by name? Is that where they get their prescriptions filled?
>aw shit, here comes Romanov again to pick up her Valtrex. pretend you don't recognize her
>all the employees hope Steve comes in one day but he never gets sick
>rhodey comes in all the time but no one recognizes him outside the suit
>they recognize hawkeye, they just don't care
>when Wanda comes in, Vision always comes with her
>he scares the crap out of everyone by walking through all the walls
>when they came in before Halloween, Vision vaporized all the costumes because he thought they might scare her
>Wanda gets 50% off everything and amazing service because Vision is always floating behind her, staring
>>82515636
>Marvel will never stop killing their villains
>those cells will never be full
>there will never be a thunderbolts program
>Crosbones will never live again
Also, why didn't they put Zemo on the raft?
>>82515646
I don't know yet.
>>82514755
I loved that moment with Rhodey.
>>82515141
T'Challa/everyone
>>82515645
Implied in TWS when Zola is explaining that Hydra used the WS to assassinate people and cover them up as accidents. A newspaper clipping of Tony's parents' death is briefly shown
>>82515578
Not even asking why he's making it, just why he won't shut up about it
I swear he's brought it up seven different times now, it's just weird
>>82515129
I like his 50 FUCKING YEARS OLD
Marvel is clearly aware of the powers of immortals such as him, Rudd and Boseman.
>>82515645
Cap found out that Howard was killed by Hydra in the bunker with Zola.
He didn't know Bucky did it though. But he might have suspected.
>>82515649
>no supervillain
>scarlet witch, bullseye, and vulture all aboard it
>>82515667
>>82515672
Ah, I thought it was explicitly said somewhere. That explains it.
>>82515645
In TWS, the scientist nazi uploaded into a computer spills the beans on Bucky's missions and mentions Tony's dad.
ORANGE SLICES?
>>82515436
after part 1, before part 2
>>82515442
the marketing push for Dr.Strange hasn't started yet.
>>82515307
Guess someone finally realized that IM2 BW was the best.
STAR WARS REFERENCE
>>82515674
>>there will never be a thunderbolts program
>Thunderbolt Ross and Zemo are introduced in the same movie and live
>huge Thunderbolt push in comics
>>82515677
>>82515646
I felt so bad for Tony I wanted him to beat Bucky nearly to death and then stop himself.
>>82515466
You really could have removed black panther and spiderman from the movie and changed nothing. Hell, even remove Wanda and Vision and you'd have a tight story. If cap'd been the one tobomb the embassyit might've made team cap looks a bit less virtuous, bring the two sides in line a bit more.
On the whole, I think Winter Solider was a tighter, sharper movie, the sheer number of characters they had to deal with in this one kind of lost that edge.
>>82515646
It's like Friday said, Cap is better at hand to hand
If Tony could fly he would just carpet bomb Steve
>>82515649
Because the Avengers keep killing them.
It's probably going to be where all of Spider-Man's villains end up. I wouldn't be surprised ifZemo, Leader, Hammer, and Abominationmake their way there because T.Ross needs to legitimise its existence somehow afterCap busted the New Avengers out.
>>82515717
>black panther
that's wrong, but okay
>>82515646
He won because of a pussy move by Bucky.
He still took them both down individually. Like in the comics, it took Vision disabling him for Cap to beat him.
>>82515248
We didn't actually see that much Kree in GOTG if that's what you're talking about. Just Ronan, but they can explore the morally ambiguous side of things since Ronan was so barebones.
>>82515703
>Vulture
Did I miss that cameo? Vulture was in this movie?
>>82515390
True, but it handed Marvel their biggest W in the CBM business and was a fun treat in the actual fight.
>>82515728
Tony beat Cap on hand to hand though. Or Friday did I guess.
Do you guys think Zemo will still feel like he won after the Avengers inevitably get back together again? Really, I wouldn't be surprised if the public turned against the leaders who supported the Sokovia Accords after something bad happens the Avengers as a whole could have dealt with and/or they do deal with but only as vigitlantes with Wakandan support. That could easily get the bill repealed.
>>82515490
Is it anymore stupid than Tony holding Bucky accountable for his parent's death despite Bucky being a brainwashed zombie?
>>82515262
:,3
>>82515732
I got a feeling that Ross being publicly embarrassed is going to lead to him subverting the premise of his public oversight campaign and just turning it into a new SHIELD: Off books, out of public sight.
Then Nick Fury walks in.
Could someone give her a hug already.
Great film. It's a rather strange film because it seems like it solely exists to get a lot of character moments out of the way so they wouldn't have to worry about them for Infinity Wars. Like everyone getting to know Spidey, Tony finding out the truth, Black Panther's introduction, etc. It felt like this film was made to get a lot of character development out of the way so that the big closeout film can go without being too bogged down.
>>82515763
Zemo won.
The Avengers are probably only getting back together because of fucking Thanos himself.
And I still don't know how they are going to beat Thanos.
It's going to be really fun to watch Thanos just grab one of them and fucking tear them apart.
>>82515777
I'd hug her with my dick
>>82515782
>And I still don't know how they are going to beat Thanos.
>OOPS I DROPPED IT
>>82515777
She's actually psychopathic in real life.
Like, fucking insane.
>>82515504
>>82515482
based Wanda
>>82515768
>Then Nick Fury walks in.
With Banner in tow.
"Hi, Ross. How's Blonsky?"
We are nearing bump limit.
Is this when we start posting Starlord x Rocket and pics of that Olsen lookalike porn actress?
I like how they worked in the 'No, you move" line
>>82515782
Infinity War needs to see some villains return but working on the Avengers side.
Post victorious Marvel pics
Such as laughing Evans
Any Avenger laughing
Reaction Guys
Anything. I want to make a cool Facebook cover because I'm a shit normie
>We have to be more responsible!
>Now let's completely destroy this airport
I mean, Vision didn't have to destroy the tower. He could have just hit the Quinjet. Not to mention everyone blowing up planes all over the place.
>>82515777
Nah fuck her she keeps breaking Vision's heart.
I want Thor to come back to earth like "The fuck happened?" and awkwardly be the middle man between Cap and Stark
>>82515792
YOU WERE TOO TRICKY FOR YOUR OWN GOOD, THANOS
>mfw they can actually do this scene now that they have Spidey.
>>82515646
He won because he was blinded by rage. Same thing as Hulk in AoU.
Cap kept the environment to his advantage and the fact that he worked as a team with Bucky.
Also, Tony's armour affords Cap to use full force, whereas Tony can't use it against Cap without killing him. It's kind of a dick move, but Steve was emotionally involved in Tony taking away from him the only connection he has left to his world. In fact, I think that Cap losing his control is a great fucking ending to his trilogy and what cements CW as a Cap movie.
But it also works as Avengers 2, Iron Man 4, Black Panther 0.5 and Spider-man 0.5.
They achieved nothing less than a miracle, even if it wasn't as tight as TWS, it took a much fucking larger bite than it, and executed it just about as perfectly as it was possible, honestly. I'm still incredulous they managed to pull it off.
>>82515796
What?
>>82515539
he's trying to imitate normal humans. if you watch reaction videos of the trailer, when it shows the warped cityscape, 90% of the people watching say "inception!"
now it's stuck in his head and he can't stop obsessing over it cause he's autistic.
>>82515810
Without Doctor Doom/Fantastic Four we won't get the main villain working with the Avengers.
Which sucks because seeing Doom in the Infinity War would've been godlike.
>>82515782
Doesn't change the fact that they'll get back together and the Sokovia Accords will inevitably be repealed. Things are mostly going to have to go back to square one after Infinity War either way, but they didn't kill of Zemo for a reason
>>82515764
Or Bucky having as much control over his actions as the Stark bombs that killed Wanda's parents?
>>82515809
It was wasted, though. 95% of people were probably zoning out because it was during a "boring funeral scene". It even took me a second to realize she was saying something that mattered even a little.
What were the exact numbers Tony said when he described Peter stopping that bus?
>>82515828
The actor has real life mental disorders.
>>82515782
I want Thanos to take on the entire team at once just to prove how much deep shit the team is in. No more army fodder, just one monster vs them. Also it would be hilarious if he literally punched the green off Banner
>>82515782
It's gonna be a fight for the stones, each side gaining some and losing some, then the gauntlet is completed but in the chaos it gets tossed and thenDirector Coulsonwill pick it up and destroy Thanos
You can trust me I'm Kevin Feige
>>82515814
Thor and Hulk are gonna come back like "ALRIGHT, NIGGERS, THANOS IS COMING, GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER"
There was the loudest fangirl behind me. She made these very audible giggly noises when Bucky appeared on screen, and audible gasps whenever Cap, Bucky, T'Challa, Spider-Man, and a few other showed up on screen.
I kept looking back at her when she did it, that even her friends told her to quiet down. Also she was screaming"WHAT THE FUCK!" when they froze Bucky again.
>>82515812
>He could have just hit the Quinjet.
That was their ride. Though had they planned ahead they could have counted on Steve and Bucky getting to it and just had it be disabled.
I smiled when I saw special thanks to
Brubaker
Buschema
Priest
Texiera
etc
>>82514064
They were so proud
>>82515850
Olsen?
No she doesn't.
>>82515810
Like who? Most MCU villains are dead
>>82515851
Thanos by himself can take on the entire team.
With the Infinity Gauntlet, unless they severely weaken it, he's just going to turn New York upside down.
>>82515852
That sounds like a golden flop.
>>82515811
>>82515688
autism.
seriously. a major sign is fixating on one facet or aspect of an issue and utterly obsessing over it.
>Panther pops a boner thinking about his secretary and Black Widow getting into a catfight
>Thanos STILL hasn't come around
I was really hoping this movie would end with Thanos crashing into Earth, quickly and silently beating the shit out of the Avengers, taking the Infinity Stone out of Vision's forehead, killing him, then leaving without saying a word. Just a little cameo to remind us that he's actually doing something besides sitting around, that he really is a threat, and that the Avengers now have to start worrying about cosmic stuff, leading up to Infinity War.
>>82515810
Norman Osbourne helps fund the initiative meant to help earth in the event of another alien invasion?
Look at those luscious locks of hair.
N-no homo
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>>82513470
>Grows to giant size.
>Can't hold the transformation for long.
Is Ant-man the most Toku american hero ever? I can almost forgive the lack of a belt with that Ultraman reference. Unintended or not.
>>82515885
da sysm?
>>82514064
You could say that Falcon is a goodwingman.
>>82515862
Did Millar not get thanked?Please tell me Millar did not get thanked. That hack does not deserve the credit.
>>82515879
It is perfect and foretold, you will see
>>82515889
>>secretary
Read more Black Panther.
>>82515890
I brought this up in the GotG but people kept proclaiming it was in character for thanos to brood and not do shit.
>>82515889
I like how that was basically the only real quippage he got. guy was severe as fuck. if whedon was in charge he'd have been quipping all over.
>>82515889
Is it me or did it look like T'challa wanted to fuck Natasha?
>>82515849
4000 pounds, 40 mph
>>82515909
>reading comics
>>82515890
OH MY GOD, Shut up about Thanos! Not everything needs to remind us about Infinity Wars! Even if he did show up, you'd have to wait an entire year.
>>82515899
The shot of him giving the tiny truck to Cap looked like it was straight out of Super Sentai or some shit.
"Captain, I brought a new weapon to help us defeat this monster!"
>>82515871
Red Skull
Zemo
Hammer
The Mandarin
>>82515909
I don't know who every character is, gimme a break.
Or just tell me.
>>82515912
It's in character for Thanos to brood and take his time. But when he decides to act, it's over.
>>82515832
>Doesn't change the fact that they'll get back together and the Sokovia Accords will inevitably be repealed.
It won't but they'll probably get more authority on their actions.
>>82515912
Thanos does not strike me as a guy who isn't in a rush. it's been four years since the New York incident and he still hasn't done shit.
>>82515012
what was the song from the last scene of the battle beetwen iron man and cap
>>82515920
Everyone looks like that m8
But I ship them
>>82515904
yeah him and Mcniven got thanks
>>82515923
I'm assuming the car moving was 4000 pounds but was that a sedan or an SUV?
>>82515851
>green
He will just rape Banner like usual.
>>82515935
T'Challa has a harem of warrior women.
That was just ONE of them.
>>82515890
This is literally why there will be 2 Infinity War films. The first one will be Thanos traveling the universe collecting gems and probably landing on Earth last.
>>82515925
>>82515889
It's a fucking Dora Milaje!
GOD!
>>82515947
Oh, how unfortunate.
>>82515899
>Becomes big
>Moves in slow motion
Why does this always happen in movies and stuff?
>>82515792
I actually imagine Infinity War going like this: Part I is Thanos making his move and going on a rampage to gather all of the stones, and ends with him basically winning. In Part II we find out that for whatever reason he can't use their full power yet. Either they do what they did in the comics and he's a good sport who limits himself to one stone at a time, or maybe he has to do some kind of ritual thingy before he can access the gauntlet's full power. It then becomes a race against time to get to Thanos before he can wipe out all life in the universe.
>>82515808
Did someone say Starlord x Rocket?
>>82513825
I wanna see Pym sort of Irrationally wanting to hate him because a "Stark" made him, but not really following trough with it.
>>82515885
Can we get a scene in a Avengers film where he walks in on everyone and just loses his damn mind?
>DAMN SCOTTY! You gotta tell me when youre bringing company! I love you, and you, and I dont even know you but Im sure youre like the sickest
>>82515920
If anything Widow looked like she wanted to fuck T'Challa.
She's on a mission to steal the innocence of every male Avenger. Keep her away from Spider-Man.
Was anyone else waiting for Natasha and the Dora Milaje to throw down?Aside from T'Challa.
>>82515867
she hasn't admitted any publicly, but I'm guessing she has some self-esteem issues and anxiety, just from how she acts in interviews.
psychopathy though? that's ludicrous.
>>82515920
I thought they fucked in the past.
>>82515964
Because more air resistance or something
Since we aint talking story I aint gonna sore this out, but yeah, WS is still better
Anyway, the intro was fucking amazing. Personally I really liked how BW went full bracelet guns, and her parkour at the start was pretty cool. She should have thanked Red Wing though.
The jokes were all pretty good. My favorites is when Steve, Bucky and Sam go meet Sharon to get their stuff back. Those nods of approval cracked the entire room.
Anyway, the whole action was great. The Russos really cant be beaten in that aspect. Spider-Man action was great and as it was already stated, Falcon was superb this movie.
I did feel we did not see enough of War Machine and Vision in action though. I wish they were on the opening sequence.
>>82515964
Gravity.
>>82515938
works for me, Cap was about to sign before he found out how they were treating Wanda. We get that then I'm in, and it would really fit given the somewhat more realistic approach of the MCU
>>82515067
ANTI-BANTER PANTHER
>>82515986
Just like Evans, she probably gets nervous because she hasn't had this kind of exposure before.
All she has done her entire career was indie films and modelling.
Suddenly she appears in Godzilla, and suddenly she's one of the main characters of the MCU.
>>82515977
They're both spiders anon, it's inevitable
>>82515964
>Why does this always happen in movies and stuff?
It is consistent because he moves at super-speed when he is small.
>>82515964
R-Cubed nigga.
Can anyone explain to me why did Howard stark have super soldier serum(?) in his trunk? Im wondering why he had that stuff. What was the reason?
>>82515977
>Blacked Widow
>>82515964
His force scales linearly but his mass increases exponentially per square cube law, therefore according to F = ma his acceleration takes a hit.
>>82515945
"dayum, white girl!"
>>82516018
She grew up next to the Olsen Twins empire.
>>82515968
I don't want him to do something like, "lol, I'm so confident in myself that I will give you guys a handicap" because villains doing something so outwardly foolish kind of makes them less intimidating for me. A villain who doesn't slip up and takes no chances is way scarier imo. Make it so that he's forced to limit the gauntlet's power somehow
>>82515964
relativity
>>82516045
Yeah, but she had a relatively normal life.
>>82515938
>It won't but they'll probably get more authority on their actions.
The Accords would just justify Ross making his own Avengers team. Really, the UN was never going to run anything, Ross is the real mastermind. He wanted supersoldiers since he showed up the first time, and he will now finally have the authority to create them.
>>82515644
They clearly want Carol Danvers/Captain Marvel to be that but they didn't introduce her in AoU as planned. Now they're probably going to bring her in for the next Avengers movie and then spin her off into her own film, but that means Wanda is the "senior" super lady in the MCU and is clearly being set up for a bigger part in the Infinity War.
I think she basically stumbled into an important role by accident because there's no way Marvel would have wanted her as a major character (because Fox has a partial claim on her they won't merchanidse her, put her in games, etc). But she's cute, she's powerful, and her actress is way cheaper than Scarlett Johansson.
I got the impression from this movie that the writers and directors actually got to like her even though they inherited her from Whedon. Good on Whedon for getting her in, because Avengers Disassembled seemed to have destroyed that character forever.
>>82515903
Such Bros. Such perfect bros.
Panther was cool, but where were his gadgets?
No vibranium kunais, no sword, just cat claws
Pretty boring
>>82516034
Because he's a Stark
They always have crazy superpower shit lying around
For real tho, that's a good question
>>82516034
Willing to bet it'll be further explored later (I kinda like that this movie didn't feel the need to explain everything, like it's just a given that Spider-Man got his powers 6 months prior), but it's reasonable that he'd try to replicate Erskine's serum. It's probably how Ross still had some in the Hulk movie to use on Blonsky.
>>82516065
>Ross making his own Avengers team
Dark Avengers?
Or Thunderbolts?
>>82515941
he's immortal and is thousands of years old. he's not in a hurry.
>>82516018
makes sense
>>82515701
>Black Panther was 40
Nigga what the actual fuck?
>>82516075
He didn't need them and the film has enough shit as it is
Keeping him nice and simple helps the audience accept a new character
>>82516034
Could've been some incomplete version that turned the dudes crazy. I can dig it.
>>82516082
>to replicate Erskine's serum. It's probably how Ross still had some in the Hulk movie to use on Blonsky.
See thats what i thought too. I also thought it was the same as blonsky cuz of the whole mental instability shit the test subjects had going on.
>>82516075
Vibranium suit on par with Bucky's arm.
And his jet.
>>82516074
>Could you move you sit forward
>No
>...
>Ross brings up Thor
Does he know that Thor is the next in line for a sovereign nation and that the UN would have no authority over him anyway?
He'd probably laugh in his fucking face over the Accords.
>>82516127
Hey, they were Cap's bros. And that's what matters.
>>82516125
Looked like a Quinjet he jacked from the Raft
>>82516144
>Ross brings up Hulk
If only someone dug up his secrets and pointed out that he created an even more unstable Hulk
>>82516075
My fear after this movie is that lame marvel writers will only write him like that going frward
>>82513882
The difference between the explosion and Vision is the same as you trying to catch a living fish that someone threw in your face and lifting a box.
Just because you can do the latter doesn't mean that you can flawlessly execute the first.
>>82516127
Apparently that was added because of Mackie and Stan's natural good chemistry on set. I need more of those two together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFXfXjg1KYk
>>82516034
>Can anyone explain to me why did Howard stark have super soldier serum(?) in his trunk? Im wondering why he had that stuff. What was the reason?
It is canon that after Cap1, everyone wanted to make their own Steve Rogers. We SAW that in TIH that Stark made incomplete serum that was used in that film, so it is not unlikely that he made a better one just before he died.
>>82516124
To be fair we don't know how good a job Howard did. It could be that he replicated it perfectly but as Erskine says it enhances the bad as well as the good, so because Blonsky and the Hydra dudes were all violent assholes, they became super-violent assholes.
Do you think when Cap comes back he'll have a shittier version of his shield made with Wakandan Vibranium?
>>82516034
Just doing SHIELD shit I figure. Probably carrying the stuff to the pentagon for some emergency summit.
>>82516174
Why would it be shittier? Probably be more badass since they know how to use it
Maybe give him a Vibranium suit
>>82516174
Why would it be shittier? Unless you just mean they do a different style like the kite shield.
>>82515964
If he moved at "normal" speed, it would look really weird. Imagine you're the size of a tall building and you moved like you usually did, for the people on the ground it would look like you're moving super fast.
>>82516037
Your logic's right, but your math is well-fucked.
His force increases quadratically, his mass increases cubicly.
>>82516174
>Do you think when Cap comes back he'll have a shittier version of his shield made with Wakandan Vibranium?
Even if he get it, it would likely be destroyed by Thanos, leading to Tony personally handing the original shield to Steve and say "Here, this belongs to you". And then we see that the real shield held up against Thaos.
>>82516075
He'll probably give them toBucky along with a new armand then he'll go full Jetstream Sam.
>>82516212
>>82516174
The MCU shield is pure Vibranium as far as we know, not that Vibranium-steel alloy from the comics.
>>82516174
I'm thinking laser shield first, then wakandan Vibranium shield.
Bucky going back on ice is kinda sad but at least Cap knows he's safe.
>>82516193
>Why would it be shittier? Probably be more badass since they know how to use it
>>82516195
>Why would it be shittier? Unless you just mean they do a different style like the kite shield.
In the comic lore the shield isn't Vibranium or even Admantium, it is a unique alloy that was accidentally created and Howard was never able to repeat the process. In the comics Admantium was created from failed attempts to reproduce the shield alloy, the shield is still one of the strongest substances and could only be damaged by powerful magic.
>>82514139
I can't get that score out of my head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goT5jslG8HA
>>82515646
I was thoroughly upset. You can only use the "he was brainwashed" excuse for so many crimes. He was in prison and it happened again. Not to mention he killed the man's father and mother.
Imagine if Bucky killed peggy or sharon. Captain would feel a bit different. If captain america just wanted to keep bucky alive but hold him at least semi-accountable I could understand but he wants him off scotch free.
Hell bucky can kill anyone and just say that Hydra made him do it. Like wtf
>>82516195
>>82516193
Because in the comics they made a big deal of not being able to replicate the shield exactly, it would be neat if they did something similar here. Wakandan scientists are no joke, but they also aren't the people who made Captain America
>>82515262
Whe is he going to wear the balaclava and go special ops
>>82516247
>The MCU shield is pure Vibranium as far as we know, not that Vibranium-steel alloy from the comics.
The only reason they call it vibranium was because they sold the rights to Admantium. It would not be difficult to justify the shield being unique, since Peter outright said the shield doesn't obey laws of physics.
>>82516256
That's not in the movies though, Howard doesn't say anything about an alloy. Just that it took "all the vibranium in the world" (which now means all the vibranium not in Wakanda)
>>82516293
Peter's smart but he probably has no idea that vibranium is even a thing.
>>82516249
laser is already in the mcu
>>82516296
>Howard doesn't say anything about an alloy.
He had no reason to, in the scene concerned he had no reason to go into details with Steve on that, who wouldn't have cared.
>>82516274
Cap would absolutely still defend Bucky if he killed Peggy or Sharon, that's obvious from the movie
>>82516296
His words are something like "The rarest metal on earth. What you're holding right there, that's all we got."
Just means that's all that Howard's people had access to.
>>82516247
I wonder where Howard got it. Was it Vibranium they had found in other places that weren't Wakanda or did T'Chaka's dad give some of it to the SSR as his country's sole contribution to WW2?
>>82514932"It means the job is not yet done. Thank you, you gave me a reason to keep living"
>>82514477
I thought I was the only one.
They made up for it though with Steve holding that one back though
>>82516319
So you're just pulling it out of your ass. There's no reason to suspect it will be that way from what the movies have shown us.
>>82516329
I always took it like it was all that's ever been found, sounded cooler that way.
New Thread:
>>82488305
Was it ever explained how T'Challa had all those superhuman abilities?
>>82516363
I'm soooo glad they found a place to squeeze that in there.
And make it work on top of it!
>>82516329
>yo we wakanda kings be thinkin dem nazis be maddddd trippin
>hey US of A we got some srs shit u niggas can have
>but you only get a taste you know what im sayin
>you gotta pay top dollar for that shit if you wanna keep dem nigga hatin crackas in berlin from winnin
>holla at yo boy if you want a hookup
>King Tchakawallabingbong OUT
>>82516363
>This part comes up
>Start grinning pretty big, look around all excited
>None of my friends know the reference
>In fact no one else in the theater knew
Feels bad
>>82516374
>So you're just pulling it out of your ass. There's no reason to suspect it will be that way from what the movies have shown us.
Are you seriously thinking MCU is going to make Cap's shield a relic of the past and easily replaced? It is a very potent symbol in the lore and they are not going to suddenly suggest that Black Panther can get a replacement made in a weekend.
>>82516416
Why the fuck not? The MCU is not the comics. They've changed tons of stuff.
Nothing in the movies points to it being anything other than normal vibranium so I'm gonna stick with that until stated otherwise.
>>82516274
It wasn't really bucky though, it was an artificial personality HYRDRA made and inserted into Bucky. Bucky gets put under ice willingly because he knows the Winter Soldier is still in him.
And what do you know, Tony just invented something that could help him eliminate the Winter Soldier, freeing Bucky and in a way getting justice for Tony's parents.
You bet that in a future film there is going to be a scene of Tony, doing his hero stuff, winds up going through HYDRA files and finding out about how you make a Winter Soldier, how much literal torture and reprogramming is involved, and eventually realizing that in a way it is wrong to blame Bucky.
>>82516413
i know your pain
>>82516274
You're an idiot
>>82516436
>Why the fuck not? The MCU is not the comics. They've changed tons of stuff.
Because then the shield is no longer relevant. It would be as crazy as saying they could suddenly mass produce Thor's hammer.
>>82516416
>>82516436
He's going to become Nomad, and Stark will give him the Shield back when they have to work together again.
>>82516468
They did just that in the comics actually.
New thread
>>82516502
>>82516502
>>82516502
>>82516468
They could make the shield but they don't have someone like Cap to wield it and do all the shit that he does with it.
They can probably think of more efficient uses for vibranium and Cap's shield is just some quirky defensive weapon that only he specializes in.
>>82516468
No it wouldn't. It's a shield. It's the man behind it that matters.
Everything in the movieverse points it to being a normal shield. Howard talk about vibranium, even Ultrons comment wouldn't make sense if the shield was a special alloy.
>>82516348
That still works, imo. They wouldn't have kept him alive if something like this wasn't going to happen.
Also,"But what about the hypocrite part? Aint any fixing that. Speaking of which, care to meet some of the children of the people you murdered in that bomb debacle? What do you know, some of them are the same age as your son was!"
>>82514352
>They have literally not established Human Aliens or what the fuck the Infinity games are in this universe, Guardians of the Galaxy makes no fucking sense.
>They have literally not established Pym Particles or what the fuck the microverse is in this universe, Ant-man makes no fucking sense.
1-800-COME-ON-NOW-BRUH
Did Zemo won? What did he mean by those last words?
>>82514768
In my session some girls in the back where like "NO!" at that part.
When I talked to the sister of a friend of mine about it she said she also heard it on her session later that night.She also said she said it the loudest.
>>82514798
You realize that if what you consider to be magic were to suddenly become real, physicists would instantly start dedicating their lives to figuring that shit out. Literally everything is science.
>>82514473
I like how even though Rhodey and Sam are military in the same branch they are completely different characters. Like the difference between Cap and Bucky.
>>82515677I really did think Steve was going to just kill him right there. I felt stupid for thinking this immediately after, but that's damn good filmmaking to pull that off
>>82516717I actually thought that Steve smashed the arc reactor so bad that shards of it get plunged down into Tony's heart again. That would have been extremely ironic.
>>82514506
>"So you we're cool? Just like that? "
That Falcon sic burn couldn't have been targeted more squarely at DC. I would bet money they had to have had access to the BvS script at that some point.
>>82514432
There was a douchebag group behind me that kept laughing/reacting at the worst fucking moments
>laugh when Widow is fighting Bucky
>guffaw when Stark blasts Rhody after he says he's sorry
>laugh when Panther has Zemo in a headlock
>loudly eat captain fucking crunch during the first half of the movie while constantly crinkling the bag
>one of them says "OUCH XD" when Bucky killsTony's dad
>one of them says loudly "I THOUGHT THAT WAS DEADPOOL LOL" duringthe post credits scene, while the rest of the theater laughs with them
I fucking hate this generation
>>82516761
Steve broke Tony's human heart
Do you guys think that the exclusion ofThor and Hulkhad anything to do with how good this movie's fights were?
>>82516883
"You're the second man who broke my heart in a non-gay way, Steve!"
>>82516910
Vision was there and Ant-Man turned giant so no.
>>82516127
I almost expected them to cut back to the car shortly after that-
>I'm not even trying to be rude, I mean I physically can't move the seat up
>It's alright
>>82515942
Clash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzTnWkOD4QE
That shit makes me Shivers EVERY time. It's tragic, compared to BvS's THIS IS LE COOL! borefest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VZ074cg0Gg
>>82515330
I don't think you can get him by calling him a monster anon. He's an "Intelligence Officer" of an East European country.
That's basically Death Squad job.
>>82515078
>yfw NEXTWAVE
>yfw THUNDERBOLTS
>>82515111
>People have been predicting a Marvel flop since Iron Man
Fixed.
>>82515399
>when Thanos kicks everyone's ass
>implying Thanos is even going to show up on Earth in pt. 1
It's going to be Avengers vs. Masters of Evil.
>>82514115
>they were the ones that started the Civil War in the comics
The New Warriors weren't mutants. Nitro wasn't a mutant.
For some reason, I'm really looking forward to Thanos casually ripping the Mind Gem out of Vision's forehead in order to complete the gauntlet.
I don't know why, because I really like Vision.
>>82515245
>2. Where was the punisher when I needed him the most
Killing T'chaka and setting up the Avengers against each other.
>>82516291
He can get a purple one right away if Batroc is hired to rescue him.
>>82514467
>Latest armour user is this 15 year old black tech girl
Except she's replacing Rhodey, so I'm not sure if it counts when it's a black person replacing a black person.
>>82517058
>compared to BvS's
Please don't do that.
>>82514473
DCCW has based black support guys.
>Blackdad
>Black driver
and to a lesser extent
>Niggerstorm
>>82515490
>if the avengers did nothing.
If the Avengers did nothing then Ultron would have never been created in the first place and his family would still be alive.
>>82515339
Phase 4
>>82516685
Rhodey is a fighter pilot
Falcon is a pararescueman
If you've served, you'd find that those are two very different personalities.
And both of those characters honestly feel like they could have been both those things.
>>82515860
Same experience. But there were four of them sitting right next to me. They booed when cap and bucky didn't kiss in the elevator
>>82515262
stop posting pictures of cats
>>82518291
Were they unironically hoping they'd kiss?
>>82515860
I had unarguably the loudest most rude woman sitting directly next to me. She spoke very loudly throughout the entire film, and even though I VERY politely asked her to lower her voice a little she completely ignored me, staring straight ahead, and continued in her loudness.
I've never before wished that I had a gun.
