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Topic-Why do you use the style you use? Not just the art, but page dimensions, chapter lengths, use of narration vs direct dialogue in the story etc.
Exercise-Try a completely new style
Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/
>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed
>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/
>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
>*-Finally, here are some links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV (embed)
>*-Here’s the contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#
>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
To join the chat, seek out 'starlinemike' and they'll add you in.
>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qby0ed4aVpo [Embed]
>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf
>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/
>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/
>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf
>>80788255
in the fyootch, you can't make a new thread using the old thread's images. duplicate file error will happen. no worries though it worked out in the end.
>>80788300
but i still had the one from three threads ago?
regardless thanks for the heads up, didnt know that
pardon my fuck ups /co
I finally got off my arse and started uploading my comic; sad habits. I did post this page here while back and your comments gave me the motivation to keep going, so thank you all for that
>inb4 everyone starts telling me to quit/kill myself
Right now I'm posting my comic on DeviantArt and ComicFury; I'm thinking of posting it on a bunch of other sites too. Tapastic, Smackjeeves, Tumblr, any more any of you know of?
Since I'm a beginner I don't see any point in making my own website just yet
>>80788469
Relatable, but then again this is 4chan so...FUCKING DISGUSTING, I WANT TUMBLR TO LEAVE RIGHT. FUCKING. NOW.
>>80788427
presumably that was also the one used in the last thread. they probably linked it directly from there. and by they, I mean me. and by 'probably' i mean now i remember that is exactly what went down
so hey, it's our sestercentennial!
>Let's do a clip show!!!
>Let's have a wedding!!
>Let's have a baby!!!
>Let's kill someone off!
>>80788559
beak noses are disgusting but at least it's not bulbous and red and shiny.
and yeah that is pretty damn relatable
>>80788598
I actually agree on the beak nose - the character is supposed to be not very attractive.
>>80788819
i mean that's what i figured. she doesnt look like she's supposed to be. but relatable, for sure!
>>80788819
its ones of those things that can grow on people after the fact
i already find it kind of charming
but her face in the last panel needs reworking, the structure is wrong
>>80789119
what's wrong with it exactly? I can see it looks off but I can't put my finger on it
>>80789199
Her teeth shouldn't reach the edge of her face
>>80789119
well i think the problem is that her mouth moves and her nose doesnt
except yknow, that's real life. but it's very unpleasant because it has a muppet effect of the nose almost overlapping the mouth.
How do I ease my mind to draw freely? It seems that in the last year, every time I try to draw I'll do well for a bit, then begin to grow irritated, either by lack of progress or some difficulty in the drawing process. Then I get even angrier that I can't just draw, and I end up walking away to do something else.
Do you guys have any methods you use to get yourselves into the right frame of mind for art? Any drugs that might help? Music?
Please help, I'm desperate here. Art is my life.
>>80788469
>all that work for such a weak ending done so many times recently
Shame. You probably put a lot o ftime into that too. It's shit.
>>80790633
get hiiiiiigh
nah just relax man. have some chocolate. have a good wank. put on some music that reminds you of the good times. or just lie in bed in the dark for a while til your brain goes to weird places. i wrote most of today's comic in bed this morning. i just gotta think of the rest of it
Hey all question from the last thread
What do you use to draw?
Software and or hardware
>>80790887
hey, answer from the last thread
>What i said in the last thread
>>80790887
I use micron pens although ive been told copic pens are way better to get that scratchy feel that I like.
I have a shitty scanner printer combo but it does the job.
For software I use Clip studio Paint and SAI.
Sai is great for coloring and getting cool line effects, whereas Clip is good for everything else. oh and photoshop. for like, touchups and shit.
>>80790887
Photoshop CS6 by force of habit, tried every alternative I can come up with and always come back to good ol' PS.
Hardware I use an intuos pro medium.
That's about it.
Page from my shitty weeaboo comic, if anyones interested.
Been working on this fanservice-ish RPG series for a while. Just a weekly thing about a girl getting flustered from wearing lewd MMO outfits.
>>80790887
draw with pen, paper, and watercolor
scan with ancient HP printer from 2009
SAI and small intuos 4 tablet for digital drawing/editing
>>80788294
>>*-We also got a SKYPE CHAT room going on,
>To join the chat, seek out 'starlinemike' and they'll add you in.
And scribblehatch.
You knew that. Now I'll be accused of being him. But I do it anyway because principles.
>>80791169
that's cute shit for sure. the characters are generic as fuck but it's nice to see straight-up RPG jokes instead of just fantasy jokes with a hint of gamery. not that it breaks any ground.. it's nice. sometimes i wish i'd made mine gamier, but I just fucking forgot.
>>80791218
>>80791419
no need to reply, but please don't keep posting this each thread. it doesn't do it or scribblehatch any good - even if it is in principle.
>>80791419
for the last time, it's copypasted
you wanna do something about it, you make the thread
>>80791596
It's just a hobby of mine, didn't try to make anything groundbreaking, I kept it simple. I do have others where I tried to make it more unique, but they never really seem to gather the same popularity.
>>80791999
that'll happen yeah
hmm this crawdragon is a bit too crayfish and not enough dragon. any ideas for slight tweaks?
>>80791419
my bad, just copypasted
if i make the next thread ill be sure to correct that
>>80791169
nice use of color
but two things
1-its a personal pet peeve of mine so maybe its fine but you should only use comedic chibi faces to amplify a joke, not just cause and especially not more prevalent than their regular expressions
2-if youre going to parody rpg with generic characters, push it even further, maybe have the character themselves be parodies
>Wanting to draw cute children's webcomic surrounding two weird little girls that love having dangerous and risky adventures
>Shit gets bad in my head
>It ends up with the two little girls doing dares of how much big cock can they take before the other makes a fucked silly face
Fucking damnit, I try and try but these demons inside just take over
>>80793519...I'd honestly like a webcomic of lewd little slutty girls, anon
>>80793519
as long as you make it good
or make them bonus comics?
>>80793570
But I'm so confused, I thought about going clean but I just end up getting bored and thinking with my dick.
I always think, "Well this is going to be fun to do" then I draw the setup and I get bored and the demon inside me is like "You're a pervert, draw those girls giving sloppy blowjobs" then I have a lot fun with that instead
>>80793640
>or make them bonus comics?
The problem with that is I could create a fanbase with not into lolicon, so if I come out with doing a bonus comic where one of the little girls is in girl scouts and with the need of sales, she convinces buyers with purchasing their cookies by bjs then it just becomes a bit odd and shocking for that fanbase.
>>80793519
i mean, my mind went to sexy things too, but not full-on gross hardcore stuff like giant cocks and ahegao. I imagined in-character stuff that girls might actually tease each other with at a sleepover or something. i think you need to good-bacteria those demons a bit with some lesser minor perversions that drown them out
>>80793298
If you want it to look more dragony, what I would do would lengthen the neck and tail regions a bit, first off, though mostly the neck so the dragon head can stick out more. Second, I see what you're going for with the limbs, but maybe the dragon aspect can be better communicated if those legs were more reptilian than crustacean.
It's a really strong start to a design, I need to say.
For myself, I'm actually going back to updating my own webcomic tomorrow. I have 3 pages done so far, the first is queued for tomorrow. I'm planning two updates a week, should fortune favor me.
how does one start a web comic? please cover things like:
>getting a website
>hardware needed
>is this poorfag friendly?
How do I get smooth lines when drawing? I have a bamboo touch and trying to get really smooth lines
>>80793967
You can go the website route, and advertise your website, or you can go the easier route and upload to a website like Tapastic. The latter is better if you're a new name, since getting a readership on a website of your own can be quite hard, unless you know someone who is already popular.
>>80793967
>getting a website
You could get a website and have really nice presentation. Or, you could just host it on a blogging site like WordPress or Tumblr and format your blog to look nice.
>hardware needed
A drawing tablet of any description is nice. Wacom does some good ones. Otherwise, if you do traditional, you would need a really good scanner that doesn't make your stuff look like trash.
>is this poorfag friendly?
Depends on what type of job you have, how much time to work on your comic you'd have, etc.
You can maybe open a patreon or get ad revenue if you get moderately popular. There is nothing wrong with just doing it for free (for now)
>>80793967
you dont need a whole lot of hardware in fact at minimum, all you really need is a basic wacom. You dont need a super expensive tablet to make good art (or a tablet at all).
you can go the pencil paper route and scan your stuff in and edit it on your computer (tablet still recommended for editing)
>>80794048
>Tapastic
>revenue
seems good, do you use it? Also what programs/ computer hardware would be needed to make a full comic?
>>80794109
>>80794134
would a regular android tablet work or would it have to specifically be a "drawing tablet"?
>>80794251
I fucking hate apple and android for fucking bringing in confusion over tablets
i mean i guess if you can get one that lets you use a pen and some nice art programs like CSP, Photoshop, SAI, go ahead. Otherwise, stick to Wacom.
>>80794297
when looking for a tablet i'd imagine the ones with a display of what i was drawing would be ideal, correct?
>>80793908
yeah elongation is definitely a good idea. i'm gonna see what ima do about the legs in the end. not lookin forward to drawing this sucker more than once or twice, heh
>>80794197
Tapastic was easier when it allowed readers to donate to you directly. Gave me a nice bit of extra disposable income every month. It's since then changed entirely to ad revenue. The ad revenue is pretty small but if you get a few thousand views on your weekly episodes, you will have a good 40-50 Dollars every 2 months or so.
Nothing special, but it's something.
>>80794006
gotta make big rapid confident strokes. it sucks but you'll have to ctrl-z constantly til it looks right
>>80794297
i hate them for taking the ultimate scifi futurist goal of letting you run everything from your computer, including your phone, and changing it to running everything from your phone, including your computer. except locked down and inferior in every way. and worst of all i hate them for genuinely being convenient
>>80794381
ideal, but since money seems to be a concern for you, I wouldn't recommend it for your circumstance. Hell, even I don't have one of those.
>>80794396
You could set up a quick little 3d model of primitive shapes that can be posed, that would help out with not only drawing it multiple times, but would aid in more complex scenes.
>>80794381
ideal and costs 10-15 times as much, yeah.
>>80794297
I've heard they suck. understandable since they arent built for drawing, theyre built for mashing your big greasy fingers into to pop balloons or whatever bullshit passes for games
>>80794418
what if i spent a month on one issue of a monthly.
what would be the estimated profit?
>>80794418
I want to use Tapastic, but Ennui go isn't formatted to work with it.
>>80794418
m-money... $_$
>>80794478
fuck that's a good idea. not gonna do it this time since it's just minor, but another time.. i might. ugh i miss sculpting in clay.
>>80794251
it all depends on what your comfortable with. They are nice because you can draw on the display.
But since money is an object, you can buy a wacom. The toughest part about drawing tablets is breaking into it and getting used to it
>>80793769
>I could create a fanbase with not into lolicon
you could have implications in the comic
you dont need full on porn to show they're dirty lil' sinners
>>80793570
Can't they be innocently cheeky and/or hormonal without having to go full slutty? A friend of mine told me the goddamn cutest story about when she was little and decided she wanted to be a stripper, and did a burlesque show for her parents, who humored and praised her performance. Because they are the best parents ever. And unlike offspring of strict dumbasses, she grew up fine and chaste
well til she hit the SJW crowd in college but that's another story entirely
Shit like the naked dare in the Parent Trap was in a full-on family friendly disney movie. people used to be able to joke about these things. Sailormoon as I recall...
Random series of faces.
>>80791218
the art is adorable but your pacing and composition is really off
also the premise sounds like itll get old fast, is there more to it?
>>80791218
If it's in english, never ever make it read right to left. Ever. There's no reason for it.
>>80791218
It was hard for me to tell wh at the joke was. at first I thought the mob died after witnessing her cute ass and was lying in a pool of his own noseblood.
the chest/rare get/embarassment on her face, the three pillars of the joke, were not very clear.
you should have her kill the thing in panel 3 simply by connecting the sword to the dragon, and in the 4th panel focus solely on the 3 things listed above.
>updating regularly for like months
>am losing subscribers
this feel is no bueno
>>80791169
>>80791218
nice to see new blood in here
>>80795122
i automatically read shit right to left if it indicates it to me early.
>>80795347
ohhh yeah i get it now. i didnt get it either
the problem is you dont see her in whatever she's in to start with
>>80795437
yes, this too. I think this is actually more important. You can keep everything as is as long as in the first/second panel you show her prominantly in whatever lowergarments she wears.
>>80794487
Probably wouldn't be very high. You get money off views, and you generate views per episode you upload. That means no matter the length of your episodes, it wont impact the outcome of revenue generated.
That is why short strips thrive on that site, rather than longer, story-driven webcomics. If you want, you could divide your pages into an episode each. Would certainly generate a lot more views, but readers might get frustrated, due to the layout not really properly supporting that kind of reading.
>>80795347
>dragon
i meant the demon thing. it's not your art, i'm just really stoned. i know how it feels when it feels like people aren't able to/don't care enough to understand the art you do. art is good.
I want to do two webcomics. But, I don't want to get in trouble with the law. ('Murican)
1.) I wanna do a webcomic starring a lady protagonist and her adventures in a polyandrist relationship with a bunch of cool monster bros. There's no inter-personal relationship drama. They're hedonistic. This is not some shitshow "Bella! Jacob! Edward" bullshit, they're reasonable adults just fond of one lady in her D&D-like quest. In fact, they mesh so well together because they're awful people that genuinely don't mind sharing.
The problem with this idea is I won't want people with an axe to grind stalking me and trying to get me to toe whatever progressive bullshit they want me to put in my comic or call me "problematic" or whatever.
2.) I wanna do a webcomic starring a bunch of similarly adventuring shota. Yep, exactly how it sounds. Sometimes it's smut, sometimes it's action fighting mystery solving. But often, it's young protagonists bedding hot babes.
Or a combination of the two.
No, I don't want to turn this into a /co/ project, because quite honestly I'd eventually want to monetize it. :P
But, as I can't draw nor pay for art, it's just writing for me. It exists as a bunch of crude story layouts because I don't believe in starting a project that is open ended and capable of running out of material before it's given a proper ending.
>>80795574
i see what you mean, it may just be up to quality over quantity then
>>80795747
there's no laws against doing two webcomics in the land of the free, citizen.
nor against doing a 63'd monstergirl-comic which is what that sounds like
nor what mercifully it DOESN'T sound like you mean is an adventuring lord of the flies thing. hot babes you say? that sounds fantastic. and pretty goddamn legal
and it's CERTAINLY not illegal to make a buck or two. What that has to do with /co/ I have no idea.
Now as for getting someone to draw it for you, that's more on the 'dream' side of american dream. Even if you could somehow make enough money to pay the artist (what does he need you for? do you have really REALLY good story ideas?) which isn't likely given how much money they need to be able to live (because it's slow work, not because it's remotely in high demand. quite the opposite, there's hungry artists everywhere. but you still can't make them work for less than they need. that's why most people do-without. kinda like handymen), you can't really expect it to be like your vision unless the artist has all the same fetishes as you. the same muse as it were, is required, if you want this to come out good enough to make money.
i'm happy to hear you have layouts but..
>>80795970
just contributing to the discussion. It wasn't a call for artists.
>>80796072
righto man i just hope you've got realistic expectations
or not, it's not like having unrealistic ones changes the outcome or anything.
in any case ecchi things are always good.
A WIP page.
>>80796348
>page 4
progress!
>>80796566
Slowly but surely, can't afford to be a perfectionist anymore!
>>80796620
>>80796348
so her pet is some kind of roperite? i love it.
finished my character turn around
moving onto environmental art, which will just be color roughs
>>80795747
>ployandrist
sjw prob would praise you for being so non conformist and 'progressive'
>shouta
you might get called out but even tumblr has underage porn, just ignore it
ive noticed the more unapologetic you seem in your writing, the less fuss people kick up (like comedians that tell rape jokes)
am i making sense?
>tl;dr go hard or go home
>>80796620
frickin' love the way you do expressions
Got my commission work for the day done early so I figured I'd play a little Stardew Valley. Suddenly it was 10:30 PM and I needed to make an Ennui GO! strip. This is what ensued.
http://ennuigo.smackjeeves.com/comics/
>>80797270
>the more unapologetic you seem in your writing, the less fuss people kick up
that's because the people who claim to be speaking their minds are always speaking someone else's mind and hoping that person will come back them up. If you're confident enough that you sound like you already have a personal army, they won't be as eager to challenge it.
>>80797308
it's always worth it.
spicy food i mean. videogames that take you away from comics.. yeahh. i'm looking at mine and realizing i've had like 5+ days in between each strip for a while. damn you xenoblade x. where did the fucking time go? 90+ hours in five weeks, and that's only playing like 3 days a week. that can't be right.
>>80797445
thats part of it
but i also think that them knowing you wont care and it being so blatant that they realize its just a work of fiction/fantasy and not an insidious soapbox
>when you only get 10 visitors a day and you lose all motivation to update
>>80797569
that too. if you act like you're sneakily getting away with something, whether through nervousness or boastfulness, you're just giving off the wrong air.
>>80797579
sounds to me like you have 10 fucking good reasons to update
>>80797579
>>80797601
Fuckin this. You won't get more if you don't keep updating. So keep goddamn updating.
Ennui GO! got like 3 visitors a day for a longass time. Now it gets over 200 unique visitors a day and almost 3000 hits a day. Gotta gut through the low spots.
>>80797629
you've been doing this comic for.. like.. a few months right? jesus that is some progress. i guess mass appeal and tits help
i wish i could send my shit back in time to when i would have CLEANED UP with the weeaboo crowd
>>80797738
Tits and REALLY consistent updates. Every day for a little over five months now. Gives people a reason to check back every day.
>>80797738
don't kid yourself, your shit is garbage either way
>>80797799
oh yeah i forgot about that part. you get used to it after a while
>>80797581
yes! this is a great way to word it
>>80797925
only if you're a retard. normal people seek to improve
>>80796348
this is cute. reminds me of katie rice's comic a little. do you have a blog anon
>>80797270
concepts
i hope these are clear enough to interpret
the actual environments will look a lot like this
>>80798986
looks better in the thumbnail.
What's the best way to convey a 'sigh'?
>Speech bubble with 'SIGH' inside it
>Speech bubble with 'Ahhh...' inside it
>'SIGH' written without a speech bubble
>Draw a small cloud thing - pic related
SO MUCH ANIME ART IN THIS THREAD
>>80799003
so i should simplify my shapes?
>>80799718
Not that anon, but I think you should add more detail to it, unless 'flat-looking' art is what you're aiming for. Though your color palette looks good.
>>80799477
First one, personally.
>>80797601
That's a VERY nice way to put it
>>80797270
>ive noticed the more unapologetic you seem in your writing, the less fuss people kick up
That's because modern PC culture has gotten used to people bending over backwards whenever they get called a "racist" or whatever. When met with the slighest oposition, they move onto an easier target
>>80799775
oh theyre just color roughs im not sure how i want the scenes to be but i am leaning towards flat looking
and yeah ill add more detail in the final peice thanks for the heads up
At the risk of going on about it I'm gonna repeat my question from >>80788469 since I haven't got any responses to it yet
>Right now I'm posting my comic on DeviantArt and ComicFury; I'm thinking of posting it on a bunch of other sites too. Tapastic, Smackjeeves, Tumblr, any more any of you know of?
>>80799477
Personally I would write ">sigh<" or "*sigh*" inside a normal speech bubble. The body language of the sighing character probably helps too
>>80797579
Surely the fact that you're getting visitors daily means people are interested in your comic
>>80799477
IIRC the standard in print is to have ** around sound effects and the like. Personally, I'd go
>*SIGH* inside a speech bubbles shaped like a small cloud thing
Almost ready to go. Thoughts on the proportions? Still getting used to drawing this character.
http://deadcattrolling.tumblr.com/
How does it look?
>>80801488
I feel like your lines aren't really thick and defined enough to stand on their own with no shading or screentones. Try making the background a very light grey instead of white.
How many artists you guys know that want to get into webcomics, but keep pulling stupid shit about how they are a failure and delete everything they do?
Yesterday ciderward was having one of those tantrums, and today when I woke up I found he just deleted fucking everything.
Is this prevalent? How can it be dealt with? I'd like to help people who I love their art, but keep giving up.
>>80801643
As someone who has done the exact same thing I think it helps to be reminded of the bigger picture. Everyone is shit before they can get better, there's no fast-track to success.
Doing something isn't failing. Failing to do something is.
Babump.
>>80799885
Really? Because I never met a racist that bent over backwards, they always just straight up deny it and then act like their a victim.
>>80804458
But it's not the actual racists who bend over backwards, it's the people who are terrified of being thought of as one
>>80804503
Usually such people ARE racists and they get called racist because they just said something racist, but because they think they're special snowflakes and they know racism is bad, they deny, deny, deny.
Just here to celebrate my yearly supply of fun coupons getting freed up by paypal! I got it from doing weaboo webcomics!
>>80804650
Magnolia Online guy?
There's way too many Danes in this thread.
>>80804722
There's other Danes here?
>>80804503that's not why I wanted my comic to be about weirdo aliens, but it is a possible benefit to not deal with drama about it
>>80804815
I think the guy that does Carrion Girls is, and the artist on Vigor Mortis is an expat.
>>80804888
Nice trips.
Well anyway, now I need to track them down. There can only be one non-feminazi webcomic creator in this country.
>>80804815
this makes me wonder what country everyone is from
>>80805263
Off the top of my head but not naming names for privacy's sake, we've got
>USians, obviously
>Brazilians
>English
>Swiss
>Scandinavians of every sort
>Germans? Used to have at least one, but it's been a while since he's posted. Sandra&Woo guys post here now and then, but I don't know if they really count.
>Asians that I can't remember exactly - Filipinos or Malaysians, I think.
There's certainly more that I'm forgetting atm.
>>80805263
I am from England
sorry
>>80805263
>>80805624
also a fellow brit here
>>80805479
At least one Italian and I think a Phillipino
>>80805479
>>80805895
At least 2 Argentinians
1 Thai
1 Taiwanese
None from Africa
>>80806297
Africa has a dearth of webcomics?
>>80799477
i like the little air-bullet but i tend to use that in only a sigh of relief, which i almost never write 'sigh' for, always 'phew' because the sounds are totally different. a sigh is more malaise and helplessness, not relief. in any case i usually have them just say sigh in a bubble, but if i wanted it to be the sound (why? the sound isnt sigh, it's like HEHHH) i'd probably just write it bubble-less overhead
>>80801488
good proportions.
>>80801576
but also this. i assume youre not at that stage yet
>>80804503
this. the truth is there arent really racists anymore, the few there are are only in rebellion against the rampant accusation culture. like people who personify churches as if they were the spanish inquisition
>>80804599
uhh no?
>>80805895
i definitely recall at least one filipino and prettty sure we have mexicans
>>80806364
africa has a dearth of everything. even black people are minorities there
back to page 1 with ye
I'm trying out making a web comic for the first time, I'm using krita as my art program and have no idea how to correctly add text. Should I use a text tool or write in it myself?
>>80808755
depends on your handwriting eh
>>80805479
I wonder why you never see much arab webcomic artists
I only know of the author of Warrior U
>>80809604
considering it's haram to create any images of anything living
>>80809604
There was that guy who created muslim propaganda using anime girls, but he didn't draw comics, just illustrations with text.
>>80801488
considering the Dr Cat author's site 'cat ghost comics' died, it's good to have a thematic replacement.
>>80809604
My girlfriend is doing a webcomic ABOUT arabic people, if that counts.
>>80809716
Not all Arabs are incredibly devout Muslims, just as not all Americans are evangelical Christians.
I'd say that it's highly probable that cartoonists from the Middle East are writing in Arabic, and thus less likely to become known to Anglophone readers. Same with cartoonists from Far Eastern countries like Malaysia and Thailand, etc.
>>80809716
It's also against the ten commandments but most Christians don't tend to follow that one.
>>80809977
yeah but that does skew the results. the culture has an effect on the proportion of webcomics artists that belong to this or that group
especially if they were writing in arabic, jesus
>>80798986
These are nice, love the colors. Something I gotta work on myself.
>>80810354
it isnt though. that's a drastically radically misunderstood commandment. kinda like the taking the lord's name in vain thing. the difference is one is europeans being ignorant of their religion's judaic roots, the other is middle eastern people who know exactly what jews are about, but hate them, and think they're the real descendants of abraham, and change their version of things til they're totally retarded
>>80809943
where's it set?
After god knows how long, I finally updated, and I plan on keeping it consistent, now. Please let me know what you think. Any criticisms of the quality of art are probably deserved, I'm still trying to get my bearings about it.
http://glymlo-land.tumblr.com/
>>80810613
I'm still reserving judgment until the comic really starts
>>80804888
The Vigor Mortis artist is a Swede living in the UK.
Finally sketching out page 6 of my comic. Still need to make some room for my last panel. Previous pages here: http://cthor-comic.tumblr.com/
>>80810517
It is.
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness [of any thing] that [is] in heaven above, or that [is] in the earth beneath, or that [is] in the water under the earth:"
It's why certain fundamentalist christian sects like puritans, amish, or jehovah's witnesses don't use representational art.
People like to ignore it and say "Well, what it REALLY means is..." but that's what it says. All the Abrahamic faiths are basically the same and you have to be really nitpicky to find the differences.
>>80812180
>king james version
an unfortunate hindrance to christianity it has carried with it like heavy metal poisoning for centuries. all because of antisemitism
>>80812180
>>80812347
er, though in this case the problem is abbreviation. you excise a sentence and ignore the preceding and subsequent lines, you can make anything say just about anything.
>>80812447
>what it REALLY means is...
There you go, proving my point. Most Christians just ignore it.
>>80812607
more like 'what it REALLY says in the previous and next bits'. it's literally a phrase in the middle of a commandment (well a lot of people think it's two but it's pretty clearly one. lutherans call it one, but then they split the last one into two because they're weird)
not to belabor the point, just saying, it's important to get your shit right, especially when dealing with anything people care about. that's hella important for webcomics or any kind of creative act. You don't wanna take Nietzche's "god is dead" as a murder confession for example. Call it 'nitpicky' if you want, being loose and lazy with your quotation and referencing is a great way to be the kind of wrong that fucks up people's shit, instead of just the kind that makes you look like an idiot.
>>80812607
>Yahweh gets mad at his people for bowing down to a golden calf out of boredom
>Next chance he gets he has them add little golden statues to the edges of his magic box that may or may not have contained fatally radioactive material
Golly gosh what an inconsistency. Religion must be totally wrong and fake and everyone who believes in it is an idiot who NEVER noticed that inconsistency before! It's not as if I've missed a key "and worship it" bit that was right there in the text. Nope, it's them. They're the stupid ones, not me.
Careful now - in the interests of avoiding a massive thread derailment, it might be an idea to rein it in, and change the focus of the discussion back to our webcomics.
>>80812853
okayi hate it when people cut out like one panel from my comic and say it makes no sense by itself
NO
uh.. do you ever wish you could make parts of your comic zoomable? There's times when I wanna put dumb funny stuff in the background but it doesn't need to be big enough to be readable, it's not really worth it to the plot
I feel like I need to work on my visual equivalent of patter. When a panel is boring and has plenty of space left over, I know I should improvise something interesting. How the hell does Paranatural do it?
Draft of my first page. thoughts on my garbage?
>>80814112
i've been saying for a long time that in this world of ours crammed with fantasy adventure, we need more NPCs. more poeple just doing jobs in a fun setting. hell we need that IN games. good for you
what's with the line under the first A in panels 3-5?
>>80814694
The font is "Anime Ace 2.0" and under curtain letters is an underline, not sure why.
>>80815023
oh so those are 'capital' As while the other capital As are not capital As
>>80815132
That's kind of a terrible font.
Page 2.
Advice on this? It's supposed to be the inside of a big hollowed out log type cave, but I didn't really have too much of an idea how to draw it.
>>80815951
wooden*
also... this font of yours appears to be just changing size of the letters at random
i really implore ya, if you're only at page 2, it's not too late to pick a better font. granted this isn't exactly a masterpiece of a comic yet but why hold yourself back?
also i love that our mailman has to just WALK everywhere, even up mountains. no winged horse for you, mailman. not even a special hat or a mail sack. which would probably make for a more interesting character design
>>80816493
very interesting. it's a bit more swirly than any real world log i'm aware of, but it does suit the general comic aesthetic (love those little grass puffs)
without tilting the perspective slightly and then making those lines not only converge but show curvature as they go towards the ceiling, i don't see any way to tell the viewer that the interior is cylindrical, so as long as it's not THAT important.. you have an establishing shot right? you'll be fine
>>80815951
terrible.
>>80799477
depends on the tone
the first and fourth are cartoony and fits best with comical stories
if your story is more down to earth, the third is best
>>80801488
whoa this is way better great job, only his hand in the first panel is under his backpack strap? its a weird pose for what he's doing
>>80812903
the trick is to use a big canvas to fit the details in and then resize for web
>>80814112
adventure turned mailman? love the premise
your paneling could use work, the page is talking about change, so having the 2nd and 4th panels be the same mountains makes no sense, maybe have the 4th be the mountains without him climbing it, or his mailman messenger bag
>>80810466
thanks senpai
>>80816590
Yeah! There's an establishing shot in >>80796348 . I just hope the BG in >>80816493 isn't too busy or anything.
Here's a color test, but I hate it! Colors are hard. It's supposed to be a swampy log, this isn't working at all.
>>80817629
And a color text for the log I did afterwards.
>>80816907
>use a big canvas
sure but then youre stuck using a ludicrously unnecessarily large pen all the time and having to zoom for precise pixel control. my OCD will not allow that. not yet. working on it. that's just a waste if the only real advantage is it lets you draw tiny things in the background sometimes.
>>80817629
definitely wrong colors. too warm, too pink, too saturated.
>>80817659
that's more like it, but more for a log at night.
>>80817629
have you tried reference? swamps have very muddy, dark and earthy colors with parts easily hidden in darkness and shadow since it's so cluttered
youre using colors that are too warm and light imo
your log is fine, but the greenery could be darker
>>80817704
youre maybe thinking too big, even 8 x 8 inch at 300 dpi is more than enough for the average webcomic page
also you only have to zoom in for details and even then shouldnt be too much as backgrounds lose information
>>80818321
well i think my point is that... in order for background details to be legible, non-background details need to be much bigger than they need to be. And that's a tough sell to someone as lazy as me (who really enjoys how indistinct backgrounds are at a smaller size and how you can kinda Monet your way to quick completion with the illusion of detail)
but I know I need to use a bigger canvas anyway, and I'm woikin' on it.
For those of you with Manga Studio 5 and Clip Studio Paint, there's a new update available to download from the Clip Studio site.
In the interests of consolidating everything as Clip Studio Paint, MS5 users can use their current serial number to activate a new install of CSP, and it will find all your saved materials, brushes, etc.
You can now create animations in the new version. They've also improved the file optimisation; old MS files unfortunately suffered from getting bloated. However, files opened and saved with the latest version won't be able to be opened with an earlier version of the software.
Installed and tried it out briefly; while I'm seeing massive improvements in file sizes, converting all the old bloated MS5 .lip files to optimised CSP .clip files will be tedious and a half.
http://www.clipstudio.net/en/dl
>>80810354
which commandment says that?
i'm a christian and i figured that i was showing appreciation by illustrating what's around me, the color purple style - a lot of christian artists only draw biblical stuff or overtly religious stuff but i never really "got" that.
>>80818447
whoa thanks m8. still havent used it much but i definitely wanna have it the most updated when I do
>>80818617
the phrasing basically goes
>i'm a jealous god, no other gods before me
>don't make any images of shit
>and bow down to those images and worship them
as for those guys' tendency, they were most likely following the good ol 'store up your treasures in heaven, for where your treasures are, there your heart is also' mantra. Good policy, but thinking you have to inject religiony things into everything is more a sign of WEAK faith than strong, if you ask me.
>>80818374
i might be misunderstanding but what i mean is you dont have to change the foreground to match the background
you just make sure the bg is more diluted, like pic related, the bg is really foggy and basic as fuck (lost information), but we still know what it is
basically work normally, just work less for background, in either case its worth a try
>>80818707
Aaaand back on the subject of webcomics, that kinda goes for any issue you've got bubbling inside you, political, social, whatever. It's good to express yourself in your comic, but if you feel like EVERYTHING is a nail, maybe you've got hammers on the brain to an unhealthy extent.
>>80818907
Sure absolutely. I just mean like, if you want books on a table in the background to have funny titles, but you really don't think it's worth devoting space to a close-up of that bookpile. Sometimes you feel like you wish you could just let people zoom if they felt like it, or ignore it if they don't
modern cartoons seem to work in a ludicrously high resolution, i suppose it's vectorized? so you can watch something that looks like in the old days it would have been drawn with 5-inch-high cels but the background actually has all these tiny zoomable details. and maybe the creators' blog even HAS those backgrounds in hi res and you can check them out in details unseeable on the show, yknow?
>>80818982
ah
yeah text and the like need to be clarified and precise. i suppose your only other alternative is to change the way your easter eggs look into more perceptible things, like book covers instead of book titles, which is probably even better
>>80819255
shit i hadnt thought of that. i'm gonna do that next time i do that. make it a book with a goatse on the cover or something.
i should also remember that shit drawn big and downscaled remains a lot more legible thanks to aliasing and shit, so if i'm ever like 'this is just a BIT too small to be readable' i can try writing it bigger and shrinking
>>80819352
bump
git movin guys
>>80822106
sorry. at least i have this comic all sketched out. now time for lineart yay! everyone loves the 'nart
>>80822162
wish it didnt take so long...
>>80823717
shutup and post it fag
>>80788469
Oh hey. Its a dark skinned Tomoko.
Like the work put into this though.
>>80823782
oh. okay. WIP for you. help with panel 4's background shenans would be appreciated. cant think of anything
>>80797579
Look, take the time you barely have an audience to experiment and play around. Because once you have a legit audience, you're stuck with what you got.
>>80790633
>How do I ease my mind to draw freely?
overlapping sketches help
time yourself and fill entire pages will drawings/sketches/studies until theres no space left
>>80794006
i heard lazy nezumi is good for that, also Sai stabilizer, but like anon said the best way is practice
>>80801643
its quire common, people i followed and friends of mine have abandoned projects/ideas
I started using animation in my comic as a way to stand out. It's expensive and time-consuming, but I think it's worth it? I hope so.
legendofthehare.com
>>80824564
>overlapping sketches
not that guy but holy shit i never thought of that
>lazy nezumi
definitely the way to go if you use photoshop and for some reason don't wanna go with clipstudio. The creator is a really great guy and if you cant get it to work he will fucking WORK with you to make it work.
>>80824624
interesting. looks like a lot of work
but youve passed up one of the best and easiest aspects of animation: voices!
>>80825112
I didn't want to give characters 'canon' voices, especially for a test run. Didn't want to have to worry about recasting
>>80825112
>easiest
Not that guy, but I dunno know about that.
Making webcomics is good and all because you do it on your own time, but when it comes to voices, you'd have to slog through your list of friends with good voices, convincing them to take time out of their free schedule to help you.
It depends on what friends you keep, but still
>>80825691
oh it's just a test. in that case, good job
>>80825801
Worse, we have to pay people. I already have to (get someone else to) pay for an artist and a musician, last thing we need is paid actors.
Well I just started the next set of pages for Parfait n Flan.
But it will be a while,I have so much homework to do.
>>80826605
>why d'you always chew tampons when you take hits from the giant bong?
>>80826605
>drugs
what's the verdict on comics heavily involving drugs?
>>80826898
Well it was supposed to be a blunt but that works too
>>80827289
Depends on the story. Drugs can be comedic, other times it can be depressing, or its casual as in its nothing special.
>>80826605
Her positioning makes it look like she's getting a little..."friendly"...with the bong.
How did you get your first 100 twitter followers /co/? I have only one so far and that's myself.
>>80828848
second this question but to gain a following in general
>>80829442
What helped me:
>Have a tumblr
>Draw fanart
>Post WiPs or character designs of your webcomic
>Alternate between the two
Drawing fanart for other's webcomics also helps
>>80818447
>you can now create animations
holy shit niglets
thank for the heads up
>>80788469
i see the problem with the mouth here is that it doesn't wrap around with her head in the last panel, it's very flat.
>>80805263
several canucks frequent this thread
>>80804458
>Really? Because I never met a racist that bent over backwards, they always just straight up deny it and then act like their a victim.
Of course a racist won't; the poster unde rme put it quite perfectly: it IS people who are afraid of being called a racist who will go out of their way to prove they're not.
Truth is, most people in the modern Western world aren't racist, if they were then people whouldn't be so afraid of being singled out as one.
That's what I was sort of trying to get across when I said that people who are unapologetic about what they want in their comic (like shota), won't actually be met with much oposition for major "transgressions", unlike people who try to be on PC culture's good side will and for minor transgressions
>>80805479
That's actually prety impressive; I thought there were hardly any Europeans to begin with, let alone Asians and South Americans. Also the guy who draws Anterra I'm PRETY sure is from Latin America; I believe Mexico but I'm not sure.
>>80818447
For those of you without Clip Studio Paint, it's currently on sale for 60% off, for the next 4 days.
Or 48% off to upgrade from PRO to EX.
http://www.clipstudio.net/en/purchase
>>80830575
>most aren't
and yet Trump is winning the primary.
>>80788255
I guess I will post this. Today is my proper day off, but I didn't spend my time working on this, I mostly working on my porn comic and playing video games.
Is there anybody who is holding down a full time job? Can someone give me some tips about keeping up drawing a comic? Does it just comes down to cutting out your other hobbies and treat it like a second job?
How do you structure your time and how do you keep yourself disciplined?
If you don't connect with an audience, how do you keep yourself from falling off the wagon? From getting depressed about the project? Do you just do your project for your own gratification? To be honest if that were truely the case, I'll probably be working a very different project and in my head not too much better than sonic chu...
Hey, is the Discord chat still around? I haven't been on in a few months but I went to check it out today and it doesn't seem to be there anymore.
>>80833499
I guess I'll bump with a character doodle. I'll spare you the donut steel stuff.
The next page still isn't done yet, but I wanted to wish you fagets a happy St. Patrick's Day. Make sure to get wasted.
>>80835362
Be honest, did you come up with this guy after playing Bloodborne?
>>80835781
You celebrate that in Germany?
>>80835887
Hm, Its potentially one of my influences, but I only have a passing glance at that. I don't even own a PS4...
I wanted a Victorian feeling with that dude. Although now I look at bloodborne stuff more closely I am like, "goddammit". Its like back in the day I have a character name Ruby Sapphire and then Steven Universe happened.
>>80836115
Sort of gives me a Dishonored/Court of Owls feel more than Bloodborne purely; not to mention my mind first went to niblewrights from D&D. If the costume isn't out of place within the universe, it isn't bad and I doubt it alone will draw comparisons.
>>80836115
It's mostly the combination of that exact shade of grey victorian clothing with the anime daggers and the tricorner silhouette+mask.
>>80836184
Hm, potentially. I haven't decided on the motif of his character's faction yet. Typically Victorian is a motif associated with a different faction, but anyway.
>>80836294
... I just found a picture of bloodborne guy in the front and you are right about that. I am going to lay down.
>>80835933
Not really, but we have Irish Pubs and we drink all the time. I kinda want to celebrate it, though.
>>80827289
i always mean to include them in mine but i just forget. like it never comes up. probably because i never do any myself. but the characters are supposed to enjoy booze and weed.
>>80829495
beats the fuck out of photoshop's primitive animated gif making i reckon
>>80832878
If you think any real voters are involved in that and not just a big clickbaity conspiracy to make money off of stabbing democracy in the balls, you're a cog in their machine
>>80835781
god dammit he's so fucking kawaii
>>80836115
>back in the day I have a character name Ruby Sapphire and then Steven Universe happened.
Surely pokemon happened first
fuck i was into gem themed shit since i was 7 and learned all the birthstones and which gems were chemically the same as others
>>80837443
Now that I am revising him, I kept coming up with ideas for him... he is just suppose to be a side character.
Also, aww man, I just can't be original for once. lol
>>80836427
It happens dude. people have always been fascinated with combining those aspects, since LONG before bloodborne. ever seen vampire hunter D?
>>80837496
>he is also a kittyman
i like this
>>80794418
How do you get viewers without shilling there? I can draw quite decently but I never broke the ~10 views per update line when I used it. I saw tons of other series with only a few pages but thousands of followers though but I don't know what those people were doing aside from uploading to even get there.
Another page going to the garbage. It is plot error (the dog getting hunger for no reason at all) and it will probably confuse some people.
>>80838106
you may have confused this thread for the garbage. some days i can't blame you.
I don't see how getting hungry is a plot error..
>Love that eyeball from Popeye's!
What software do you use to letter digitaly?
I just moved from analog to digital and sai dosn't seem to be good for lettering.
>>80838128
This is from last week.
I going to redraw page 4 again until it make sense!
>>80838192
clip studio paint
Sai's fine if you just want to illustrate a picture, but if you're going to make comics it's best to have something that supports text.
>>80838192
gotta turn your stabilizer off to write
>>80838251
so she asked for food and the dog provided.. but the dog's still hungry. so it's kind of a risk, like is a hungry person going to risk their food for luck
>>80829484
Does it make good 'business sense' to draw fanart of super popular stuff EG Undertale in order to lure in more views, or is it just more likely you'll get buried in the mix?
>>80823845
For what it's worth I actually watched that series AFTER concepting this comicbut that's a pretty accurate observation
>>80789429
>>80829745
Thanks, I see it now.
I'm not the only one who suddenly finds previously-invisible flaws extremely, painfully obvious once they've been pointed out, r-right?
Whats a good way to work for a couple of hours on drawings or writing? I usually work for like half and hour to an hour, and i want to do more. Some say I shouldnt force creativity. But I feel like i could do better. But sometimes i quickly lose steam and then it gets hard to be creative.
>>80838768
I got my tumblr up to around 3k followers by doing fanart before I started Ennui GO!
>>80838872
idk, I usually work for about 8 hours a day on my various commissions and projects. Then again, this is my day job. Not everybody has that kind of time.
>>80838872
1. Close your eyes
2. See your imagination waifu.
3. Talk to her.
4. Get a gun
5. Put the bullet in the gun
6. Put the gun in the mouth
7. Lick it little bit.
8. Put the gun out of your mouth
9. Watch cartoon network for nine hours
10. Go to sleep.
>>80838872
making is work - don't work when you only feel "creative" or "inspired." constructing a comic is like building a house - there's lots of fun parts, parts that come easily, parts that are boring, difficult, etc. set time aside to complete a comic like it's homework. make goals and allot the amount of time you'd need to make them. if you finish your task early, no need to push yourself into more unless you're really "on." but, tl;dr, think of it more like a job than recreation. it will change how you approach your comic.
>>80838192
Photoshop.
I pencil on paper, ink in Manga Studio, then the rest in photoshop.
>>80824624
>animation
>It's expensive
you outsourced it to Korea or what?
>>80794850
>>80839190
Hmmm that might be the way to do things, especially if you want to make comics a living eventually.
>>80839694
Is this loss?
>>80839746
Not yet. That comes later.
>>80839801
Is anyone pregnant in this comic?
Do you got pregnant fetish?
>>80839921
How is babby formed?
>>80839921
everyone is pregnant in that comic
