[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Home]
4chanarchives logo
Artist Alley Thread: summertime is almost upon us edition
Images are sometimes not shown due to bandwidth/network limitations. Refreshing the page usually helps.

You are currently reading a thread in /cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

Thread replies: 255
Thread images: 23
File: AA_table_kawaii_boku.jpg (96 KB, 736x552) Image search: [Google]
AA_table_kawaii_boku.jpg
96 KB, 736x552
Old thread is auto-saging >>8981831

>Resources
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l-9tZn_PaqsZWkb5SB_aqwh7uvURyoLgdsQiuz_Ty08/edit#gid=0
>Taobao/Alibaba services
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14zGSegr0b-429wZq5_xdMbE9hpLcXg8fqqe0OxnU2Yo/edit#gid=0
>Artist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ESQ-1h4IRUivbGNaxJFxXyDU1lSv26xTmMdH0sDX7sU/edit?usp=sharing
>How to order from Vograce
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18UxKnpgrmeb82NnW5e4YIEX-eZ3zHt178Mp6i0A5gME/edit?usp=sharing
>>
Kind of amazed with how long after the bump limit the thread just went on.

Either way, how many artists have cancelled AX so far? I know Shilin/Okolnir has.
>>
I tabled at a first year con last year and it was so so dead I barely broke even.
I got a free table there this year from the art contest but I still can't shake the bad feeling I have about it as I prepare. Have any of you felt something like a "let's get this over with" about a con before?
>>
>>8999230
Only when I was young and stupid and tabling with even stupider friends.
If the table's free you might as well go. Good luck with the con.
>>
>>8999222
I'm on the fence with cancelling. I've never sold there before, but with the moving of the AA, the background checks, and the cost of the table being increased I'm not sure if it would even be worth it to keep the table.
>>
Some people have been taken off the waitlist for Fanime even if the payment deadline for accepted artists hasn't passed yet. Apparently there's still a handful of unclaimed tables left on the map.
>>
>>8999230
First year cons are risky, some people don't even bother going to small conventions.

When going to a small convention, plan it more as a fun convention than a business one. Going to first year cons can be very good though. If it ends up becoming a very successful, large con in the future, having tabled their in the past usually gives you a much, much higher chance of being able to return another year.

Personally, unless a con is extremely badly managed, I go to every con I can.
>>
>>8999230
Your table's free you might as well go
>>
>>8999230
If it's free, why not. And it might be better this year, you never know!
>>
>>8999230
Oh man I have a lot of these...

I went to a very small con because I had some family in the area who wanted to split the table with me; it went really bad because it was super small and depressing, but then also because my family didn't understand that con tabling should be treated semiprofessionally and ended up starting a bunch of drama behind the table while I was trying to talk and sell to fans. Then halfway through the second day a lot of the con attendee dudes started taking their shirts off and then pretty much all the guys were running around the con without their shirts on and no one was stopping them. It was really uncomfortable and I don't wanna go back. The only cool thing was that the convention actually paid all the sales tax, so you added up your sales at the end and paid the AA your tax, and they did all the filing for you. Wish more cons did that.

I also did Yaoicon the year (or the year after, I forget) it moved back up to SF, and while it wasn't super depressing, it wasn't a great experience; our table wasn't in the right location on the first day, and then they made the entire AA break down and remove all of their stuff from the room so they could use the hall for a dance. The next day everyone's tables were in entirely different places. I put up a table map before every con and it was entirely useless. I don't know if it's doing better now, it used to be a good con I think.

Also APE last year was pretty sad too. Lots of good artists and sellers still but attendance was bad. They shouldn't have moved it out of SF. I hope it does a little better with attendance this year, but I bet the number of good artists goes down a lot.

There was also Japan Expo in Santa Clara CA, I forget which year that was. Holy shit. Professional level vendors, absolutely abysmal attendance. I didn't even earn back the table cost. They actually had to send a convention rep into the AA to calm the artists down because everyone was doing so badly.
>>
>>8999230
Literally every con I go to because I'm a lazy fuckass who just doesn't like table setup. But once I actually get my shit together, I usually end up enjoying the con.
>>
>>8999230
You never know how much bigger the con will be in its second year. A couple of years ago I worked for a first year con and it was practically empty the whole weekend, but the next year it was so packed that it was almost impossible to walk through the Artist Alley because there was so many people! It's their third year this year and they're moving to one of the bigger venues cons are usually at, and it'll also be my first year selling my art there so I'm looking forward to it.
>>
I didn't find anything in the ressource sheet, but where should I order for pocket mirrors ?
Any good site ? I'm mostly looking for quality, the price doesn't really matter...
Sorry if it's obvious or if many people already asked for it.
>>
>>9000072
artsmoo makes them. Or if you're looking to do this for a long time and want to make them on the fly you could buy a button maker in a larger format (2 3/8"-3" seems to be the norm sizing for pocket mirrors) and then buying the mirror backing parts
>>
>>9000072
Vograce makes pocket mirrors as well. They're pretty cheap if I recall.
>>
Do you refund or replace lost packages? Even if you are a small independent artist, should you still treat it as a business and refund/replace? I know a lot of people that refuse to do so but I wonder which is the right way.
>>
>>9000330
I personally would if it meets certain criteria. If you shipped it without tracking and they say they never received the item, or if the item arrived damaged and they can provide evidence, then you should refund/replace them.
If you're unsure if they're lying, go through their account/blog and see if they brag about getting shit for free, or if they have a suspicious amount of refunded orders. You'd be amazed at how many people enjoy telling their followers about their totally foolproof scams. Obviously you don't need to stalk everyone, but if you get a bad feeling about someone it might pay to check them out.
Just say you're not responsible for damages/loss of item after the package has been sent, in case you run into a scammer, ship orders that are cheap to make, and refund/partially refund any orders that would be too expensive to ship.
>>
>>9000330
I would say case-to-case basis if it ever occurred to me
>>
>>9000365
>>9000354
Yeah, case by case makes sense. I do replace damaged items or cheap items but sometimes I can't afford to. How do you refuse refunds? I usually say "not reponsible for delivery issues" in my terms of sale but like people read that.
>>
>>9000354
All package shipping should have tracking if you're mailing in the US at least. USPS lost one of my customer's decal in the mail. It didn't have a location update in tracking for like 6 days. I sent a claim to USPS and somehow it magically got to its destination like two days later. My customer didn't blame me at all or expect me to replace it for free, though I did offer to make her one for just the cost of shipping and materials if the decal was lost forever.
>>
Do you guys have any tips for dealing with people who come up and try and do the whole 'selling fanart is illegal' spiel? i've encountered at least one every con the past month and while usually asking if they're a legal representative of the IP or if they've also harassed all the bootleggers in the dealers room as well makes them huff and leave a couple have been persistent. I know it's less about them actually caring about the poor ip owners and more trying to flex some dumb moral superiority but they're worse than booth barnacles and actively chase off customers.
>>
>>9000259
Has anyone tried Vograce for mirrors? How is the quality?
>>
>>9001191
BOY do i have a relevant story for you. My friend at awesome con was basically accosted by this woman who tried to convince her not to sell fanart and that it was morally wrong and illegal etc and her talent was being "Wasted" etc. She gave her a card that was just awful, i have a picture of it some where but it led to this url:
http://www.centerforcopyrightintegrity.com/about-carrie-devorah.html

HAVE FUN
>>
>>9001301
Now try opening it on your phone.

10x the clusterfuck!
>>
>>9001339
shoot i should have linked to the main page if people didn't figure it out: http://www.centerforcopyrightintegrity.com/

The card she gave had that weird drawing of the woman with the C on her crotch .. great logo
>>
>>9001301
Jesus, what the fuck is this?
>>
>>9001343
Holy fuck, this is incredible
>>
Sometimes I love WIPW because I get to think "Huh. If these guys are selling, surely I'd do alright at a con!"

Then I remember that most of the people posting are mediocre at best and feel bad about my own work again.
>>
>>9001434
I bought a bunch of really shitty artwork and buttons when I was younger. I'm sure you'll do fine.
>>
>>9001191
Have you tried to reporting them to con security or some kind of authority at the con? If they're doing it to you at a con, they're probably harassing other people, too.
>>
Please help! I'm a bit confused...Thanks to some tuts I understood that to make clear acrylic charms you have to flip both the back AND the front. But what about opaque charms? Do you have to flip the back and it will line up with the front after printing and cutting, right? You don't need to line it up with the front in the file like with clear charms, do you? Thanks!
>>
>>9001710
You have to flip the front as well for clear charms? First time hearing this!

For opaque charms, just make sure the cutlines match.
>>
>>9001343
Ten seconds on that site and I'm sure she's got severe aspergers.
>>
>>9001742
I read that you have to have the front mirrored for clear charms due to the printing process.

Do you have to line up the cutlines (like if you make the front layer semi trasparent the back lines up exactly underneath - like with clear charms) or they are they the same but mirrored in the opaque charms file?
>>
>>9001301
Holy shit what a nutcase. Did she get kicked out eventually or did she continue to spread her righteous indignation for days?
>>
>>9001777
I'm not sure she was ever reported? i think every artist just kind of smiled and nodded. I don't know how many people she hit up either because i didn't get her, but she clearly had business cards for this precise reason so who knows..
>>
>>8999205
I tried to register for a second year convention yesterday. Their artist alley is full and the convention is in August. How far back do I need to register to catch a table anywhere? I don't even have a large amount of merc to sell, I could live with a half table.
>>
>>9002451
Depends on the con, but it's usually a relatively long time. For example, A-kon is at the beginning of June, but AA sign ups were on February 3rd. Ikkicon is smaller and is usually over New Years, but IIRC, they have sign ups in the fall.
>>
>>9002458
Damn, alright. Thanks for the advice.
>>
>>9002463

If you need to know sign up dates, try following the con's FB page or twitter if they have one or check their site, or even see if there's an email list or something.
>>
>>9002469
Yeah, I've started compiling a watch-list and liking a bunch of pages on FB. Probably a bunch of them I'll need to catch next year but, that's alright because I would like more to present for the table anyway.

I'm pretty thankful I'm so close to Texas, holy shit there's so many.
>>
>>9002451
>I could live with a half table
See if you can post that you would like to split with someone on their facebook or whatever.
>>
>>9002475
there are more popping up every day
a new one called Anime Austin is debuting in July
>>
im kind of sad that artist on AANI isn't doing the bootywatch print b/c whinging, I would buy a male or female ver of that instantly.

On a related topic, how do you guys deal with comments about work being 'inappropriate'? I have some female + male pinups in my lineup and while i almost never get negative comments about the women, every time I openly display the male pinups there's some pearlclutcher demanding I stop displaying 'pornography' at a family friendly event.
>>
>>9002489
I just sent them a msg. Hopefully I don't seem too pushy. TY for advice.

>>9002515
That's great! Oklahoma has been trying really hard to put more conventions on the table. A lot of the new ones seem to be gaming or sci-fi though. I don't know how artist alley really works for them.
>>
File: 1382398032603.jpg (44 KB, 384x640) Image search: [Google]
1382398032603.jpg
44 KB, 384x640
I wish there was a nice way to tell someone "having your baby/toddler drooling and farting all over your table is not as compelling of a draw as you think it is". A friend of mine brings her baby every time she tables with me and I'm so fucking tired of it. Her reasoning is "people love cute things so he'll draw people over and they'll buy more stuff! xD"

I go out of my way to avoid all children <16 at a con and nothing makes me avoid an artist's table more than their crotchfruit hanging around/on their stall. How people still think it's acceptable to bring young kids to a con is beyond me, ESPECIALLY if you have to stay all day tabling.
>>
>>9002681
But kids are not cute.....
>>
>>9002681
I barely look behind the table. If I see a kid, I just assume they couldn't find a babysitter and feel slightly sorry for the kid.

Tell her that?
>>
>>9002681
Kids make me uncomfortable, I avoid them as best I can. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way too.
>>
>>9002681
i hate it when people do this. once i used to try and browse their stands regardless, but if you don't oo and awww at their horrible little goblin they'll shove it in your face or do some awful little sketch where they pretend to voice the baby doing a sales pitch or something equally terrible.
now i just walk in a large radius and avoid eye contact
>>
>>9002611
Just tell them that you're sorry your work offends them, but that it falls within the rules of the event. You could actually leave that first part off, if they're crying about it particularly hard.
>>
>>9002676
>I just sent them a msg
I meant post publicly on their wall to see if anyone might have a table they don't mind sharing but that might work too.
>>
>>9002681
If they want their kid at their tables "helping" that's their choice. It's when those kids travel around the alley and touch everyone else's stuff that I get annoyed. I don't even mind kids most of the time, but when I'm doing setup and some 8 year old won't leave me alone and keeps pawing through my things and asking me questions and naming all the characters they know like I should give them praise for it, it needs to be on a leash tied to its parent's table.

>>9002774
>or do some awful little sketch where they pretend to voice the baby doing a sales pitch
I have had other artists do this to me using stuffed animals and nothing makes me cringe and nope out of there faster.
>>
How strict is Florida about tax forms for AA? I'll be at Megacon this year and I've never filed taxes for a show before. Do I need like, proof of forms before I can setup?
>>
When looking for a table, how aggressive is too aggressive? Do you just post a general message saying that you're looking for a half-table? Do you message people directly? I'm not sure if I'm being to forward.
>>
>>9003172
Just post a general message in the group asking if anyone wants to split a table.
>>
>>9003131
Ask the con organizers. It varies county by county with how strict they are.

Normally, in my experience, the very most they'll just collect tax from you before you leave the con.
>>
>>9001191
I'd just tell them AGAIN...ahem.. this is artist alley where fan-art is sold. If YOU got a problem take it elsewhere. And make the face and hand motion that they were irrelevan~shoo~go away~ toodles crazy people
>>
I have a bunch of perforated plastic (like yard signs are made of) and I'm trying to figure out if I can use it for my display.
Does anyone have display inspo to dump?
>>
>>9003422

You could probably sub it for foam core for any of those foam core display tutorials. I see a lot of people that use foam core to make mini shelves, magazine racks, etc. I don't have any resources on hand though. I'd imagine the plastic would look a lot better after being set up and broken multiple times.
>>
File: tumblr_mjmk3fFV7M1s71q1zo1_540.png (429 KB, 396x810) Image search: [Google]
tumblr_mjmk3fFV7M1s71q1zo1_540.png
429 KB, 396x810
>>9001301
Holy fuck this is like that bridal website. Not sure if serious or part of an ARG.
>>
Curious about the Twitter drama surrounding someone being salty over another artist being succesful? What happened? Everyone is subtweeting to hell and back about not being bitter over popular artists. What started this shitstorm?
>>
>>9003852
It's probably got something to do with this tweet
https://twitter.com/bbbreakfasttt/status/730910269296152576
>>
>>9003852
desu I have no idea what's going on in this Twitter drama but I'm salty as all hell about Sakimichan's success so I mean...
If I said I "hated" someone in that way it wouldn't be without a lot of (admittedly jealous) admiration, and I'd mean it playfully, but I can see how awkward it would be if it was a stranger/if someone said it in the wrong tone.
>>
>>9004246
I dunno. It just seems rude no matter the context if you're not super close with the person and are very obviously joking. It says a lot about you as a person if you tell someone you hated them because of their success. Like damn, just git gud yourself instead of being salty.
>>
>>9004246
Being jealous is one thing, hating or disliking them over it is something entirely different.
>>
When you run out of stock at a con, do you sell your sample products? I liked to keep mine so that my table is not too empty but is it better to sell them? You know, so that people passing by can see a sold out item and if they like it enough to ask me where they can get it, i can give them my online store url.
>>
>>9004319
Again, I'd only say it if it was obviously playful/a joke. I would never tell someone I wasn't close with something like that, that's just weird--which I guess is the point. Whoever said that is probably just lacking in basic social etiquette.
I'm sure everyone has felt salty a few times (or more) but how you express that saltiness is the problem...
>>
>>9004594
Depends. For prints I have a sample hanging on my display and a sample in my portfolio book, I'll sell the portfolio one but not the hanging one-- usually they either get a little beat up from use, or I designate one that got accidentally torn a little or something as my display. For buttons and charms, I'll sell my samples. It might be different for 3D crafters though.
>>
>>9004594

Up until now I used to sell my sample (though I always let people know it was slightly damaged from hanging), but this year I want to just put up a "sold out" so that I can drive people to buy it online. It'll still act as advertising that way. Like >>9004612 said, I will sell my sample for buttons, though. That's an item that I usually don't reorder except for cons, so I'd rather someone take it and enjoy it.
>>
>>9004594
For hanging displayed prints, since I obviously want to show them until the end, I tell the person that if they want it they have to come back right when the hall closes and I'm packing up.
>>
Speaking of social etiquette, rude artist neighbor stories?

>Family of like 6 helps out it's shitty artist family member
>I arrived 4 hours early so I'm in my table space ready before they arrive
>con starts in 20 mins
>As they set up, they get in my table space and hit my displays
>They don't say sorry
>Have prints facing towards my booth
>ALMOST THE WHOLE FAMILY IS BEHIND THE TABLE PARTS OF THE WEEKEND. So I can't get out.

>Goodnews side note??: I out sold them the whole con weekend so ignoring it paid off???
:desu I'm a ass
>>
>>9004804
not exactly neighbours but I once tabled at a con where the tables were back to back, without a partition or backing of any kind and not only were the artists behind me snobby 14 y.o shitheads with traced animu, they had legions of squealing, obnoxious cosplayer friends that were CONSTANTLY in the artist space, knocking peoples bags over and banging into their chairs, despite signs everywhere saying only artists and designated helpers were allowed behind the tables. They were told to leave by me and the artists next to them and just sighed and rolled their eyes and started loudly bitching about us in canto.

also not precisely rude but I dread it when i'm placed next to 'lewd artists'. always grim-faced men 30+ surrounded by uncomfortably pornographic prints who are very unfriendly to female artists, or obese adult 'women' who have never gotten over the mid 2000's convention scene being incredibly loud and cringeworthy.
>>
>>9004804
>Due to travel issues tablemate and I arrive at con later than intended (Friday right as the con is starting)
>Find out we're in a corner booth and the other table on the corner is a mother and daughter duo who has already set up in our space
>Neighbors make it extremely difficult to set up; there is literally no room for us to be behind the table
>Daughter is mostly polite but mother keeps making comments (loud enough for us to overhear) about people being too lazy to arrive on time
>Eventually at some point Friday evening the mom takes a break and leaves the daughter alone at the table; we take the opportunity to move their things a few inches back while daughter is distracted by sales

Like I get that it's partly on us for being late and it sucks being crammed into a corner spot but they were literally taking up our entire space; we didn't even have room to open up the folding chairs. A braver anon than myself might have said something to them but... our method worked out, I guess.
>>
>>9004959
Those are the worst! I remember a artist made a back drop to the size her space in the contract was, so no one could get into it. It was hella smart.

Also I hope more cons do SOME SORTA OF JURY????? To cut down on artist tracers, and I feel you with the cosplay friends. Some of my booth mates friends are like that, and it's the fucking worst. It hurts me in sales when they try to come by and chat to them and not buy shit. Q____Q Getting to the point of wanting to have a chat.

>>9005005
Aw shit. What kind of travel issues?
The con not send out maps? That must of been hecktic.

Also why folding chairs? Gosh this sounds awful.
>>
>>9005031
>all these words and only one sentence has a point
> Q___Q
hello newfriend, you might want to lurk more.
>>
>>9004804
One of my friends last year had a neighbor who wasn't getting a lot of sales, so the artist tried to yell out to the sea of congoers to entice them to come look at her booth (which didn't work too well). At one point I was told she asked a guy who was looking at something else if he saw anything interesting at her table, and he flat out said 'No'.

Earlier this year I the table that was behind me had some sort of He-man painting that was rigged to light up and play the 'heyayeayay' song very loudly. By the second time it played I was ready to strangle someone.
>>
>>9004804
I hate artists who have their whole family behind their tables.
One time my back neighbour had their three ~4 years olds and their friends playing behind their table/in my space. I was so scared of accidentally backing into the kids I had to talk to the artist multiple times. turns out the artist is one of the staff and I was not accepted into the con this year lol.
>>
>>9005291
what a cow. it's not unreasonable to not want small children rampaging around a business area.

>>9004959
lmao. I always get the awkward lolicon artists - their work isn't 'pornographic' or pin-up-y, per say, but features a lot of uncomfortably detailed rendering around certain areas and wet/tight clothing on children.
>>
what would be the best way to display microfiber/glasses cloths? i have few different cloths on my AA tables, but i find just laying them flat on the table to be bit boring...
>>
>>9005315
if you can buy a few cheap it would be cute to display them inside glasses' cases.
>>
Is it exceptable to leave a con a few hours earlier than the closing hour?
>>
>>9005319
I can't find a photo right now, but I have mine packaged and hanging on hooks, and I hang a single display one with my logo on it next to them to show the full size. Because I have to fold them to fit them in the packaging, I also put a little sticker with the full design on the front.
>>
>>9005492
Unless the con specifically says you shouldn't, then yes.
>>
>>9005492
Depends on the con, but generally festivities fall off sharply on the last day. I remember the first time I went to an out-of-state con, I booked my tickets home from Acen on Monday and ended up having to stay at a motel because everybody was GONE by 2PM Sunday.
>>
>>9005315
Hang them from a cork board, maybe?
>>
Why does it seem like less and less content is being shown in AA threads?
>>
>>9005935
Self posting ends with
>Where did you get thing made from
or
>Your stuff looks like shit

Granted, self posting on AANI isn't much better. They're just out to copy the next good idea.
>>
>>9005935
I'm trying to improve a bit more before asking for some input.
>>
I'm hoping you lovely AA anons can help me with something.

I want to make a custom tshirt on artsmoo for a friend, but whenever I load a picture up on it a notice saying that there will be a quality issue for the final product.

I'm hoping that someone will be able to guide me in the right direction as to what I need to do to make the picture appropriate.

Thanks in advance!
>>
>>9006001
What is the resolution of your image? How many DPI/PPI? That might be the problem.
>>
>>9006001
arts___.com/useful-tips
>>
>>9005935
for me at least I don't really want to be recognized as someone who frequents cgl because of the bad reputation of 4chan/this board in the con community in general. Also as proven with that girl who went and cried to AANI about her shitty art being critiqued, there are a fair number of lurkers from there.
>>
>>9006111
I find the anonymous critique to be a draw, honestly. People will be much more honest, even if brutal, but sometimes you need that. It's much better than posting a charm sample on Facebook and it looks like shit but no one wants to be the bad guy and risk getting attacked/blacklisted for saying anything.
That's me, though. Sometimes people just want to show their work off without getting critiqued.
>>
File: dragonsandbeasties.jpg (110 KB, 600x514) Image search: [Google]
dragonsandbeasties.jpg
110 KB, 600x514
>>9006111
This really. I love you salty bitches but I still have to play nice with other artists and there's a negative stigma associated with posting here. Also as a crafter I am stupidly worried about people ripping off certain ideas of mine so I don't like to post a lot of my things online. It seems like every craft artist who gets popular or Instagram or whatever gets six thousand copy cats. I'm sure you've seen pic-related being copied under the guise of "inspiration" as many times as I have. Plus everyone and their mom copies Xoxorufus' and Oborochan's clay charms. Not that they're particularly unique but still. Went on a tangent there...
>>
>>9005935
i am a crafter who posts my work mostly in the indie and resin threads. i don't mind being known as a seagull, and i think being a bit visible about using /cgl/ in positive ways can help dispel the negative stereotype.
>>
>>9005935
I've never posted my work here because i've seen someone talk about be negatively in the past. Rather just help while staying anon than open myself up to more shit from you guys :)
>>
File: itkDcjD.png (341 KB, 417x625) Image search: [Google]
itkDcjD.png
341 KB, 417x625
>going to have my first table at a local con in a month
>mostly just a casual fan of american and japanese comics (except largely into batman shit)
>realize this is a con geared more towards general geekery
>realize i will make no money with just the shit I'm into
>start to make sketchcards about general shit that I have no interest in like Avengers, Star Trek etc.

How do avoid being sniffed out as a casual?
>>
>>9006280
if you're really into batman shit, then make some batman shit. there's always a bunch of edgelords who want to buy joker/villian stuff
>>
>>9006287
I could really make a ton but I'm afraid if I don't have enough variety I'll be fucked and even looked down upon. Right now I only have 4 large prints and they're all Batman so I'm trying to branch out by making sketch cards (selling for like 1 dollar each) of other series.
How bad would it look if I had like 90% Batman shit 5% other shit I liked, and 5% shit I may have never even watched or read?
>>
>>9006287
and anything that looks vaguely harley quinn related. in general harley/joker print money
>>
>>9006298
i don't think that it'd look too bad. just try to make it more 80% batman and 10% shit you don't like and it should be less noticeable
>>
>>9006299
I could do a lot of those...how many is too many?
>>9006301
Alright, cool. Thanks for your help anon.
>>
>>9006280
I think as long as you have enough variety in general, it should be fine. Even if your table is 100% Batman, don't make every single thing just Batman (the character). Do others like Joker, Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy, Robin, etc. and you should be okay. Batman's pretty mainstream.
You can do the sketchcards if you want but I don't think people will judge too harshly over it.
>>
>>9006280
99% of people will not give a shit about you knowing/being a hardcore fan of everything on your table. everyone else you can spout bullshit at or come up with an excuse to get them to leave (happens maybe once or twice a convention).
i wouldn't stress about it.
>>
>>9006355
This. It only really happens when you make art of less popular shit. I talked up Gargoyles for like ten minutes with a dude in the alley when I saw he had a Goliath print. If you're making something lesser known, it's a given you have to love it because you're not in it for the bank. Bigger popular shit, they just want to squeal then possibly give you money.
>>
>>9006111
Lol same and it's funny how many people I've figured out go on here and it's all the passive aggressive ones who size other artists up.
>>
As a first timer considering tabling, do you think it would be wiser to share a table with another artist-friend (who is also first-timing) or to go solo?
>>
>>9006375
definitely split the table. ideally you'd be tabling with someone more experienced, but it's still a huge weight off your shoulders to share the struggles with someone else.
>>
>>9006366
>it's funny how many people I've figured out go on here and it's all the passive aggressive ones who size other artists up.
sounds a bit like you're passive-aggressively sizing other artists up

can you clarify?
>>
I figured this is better to post here than the feels thread but
>be me, young innocent weeb
>other young innocent weeb friend and I are super tight art buddies and have always wanted to table together
>fast forward through high school
>lose contact for a year during college
>reunite
>we both have new friends but are still part of the same circles
>HOWEVER
>she thinks she's too good for me now because my style is still very anime while she's switched to Sakimichan-sequel paintings
>she's now too good and efamoose to table with nobodies like me

I'm not angry but it's so sad to lose an art friend, especially since I don't have many with similar interests in the first place.
>>
>>8999425
>They shouldn't have moved it out of SF
holy shit I didn't even know it had moved because I blinked and the date passed by

yeah, sorry artists who go to APE. I'm not going to drive an hour to see you guys.

>>9005222
that was me at AX. exhibiting and the booth next to me had a song on repeat every few minutes.
>>
>>9006012
The resolution is 500x1000 and it's 96DPI which I now see is piss poor.

The issue that comes up is how do I then increase the DPI? This is a copyrighted image (as I said, it's a personal project I'm making for a friend) so is it possible to do so?
>>
>>9006366
I feel like the ones that openly post and help out are generally pretty nice but the ones that stay more anonymous and that you have to figure tend to be more bitchy. Definitely not all, just from the ones I've run into imho
>>
>>9006651
DPI doesn't mean shit when you're working with pixels, its only relevant when you're working with images. If it's a normal t-shirt, artsmoo says the ideal size would be 1500 x 1500px minimum. You really don't have a larger version of your art? 500x1000 is way too tiny for print, period.
>>
do you guys find that certain 'types' of artists fall into specific personality types? obviously this isnt true but from my few years in the alley this is what ive noticed personally:

- kawaii artists are either incredibly sweet or incredibly snobbish/elitist, usually tied to their 'popularity'
- asian 'old style' anime artists will bitch about everyone else in the alley
- white 'old style' anime artists will be an embarrassment
- strictly western comic artists at anime conventions are arrogant and condescending
- painterly style eastern-influenced artists are usually quiet and may seem kind of stand offish but are usually pretty nice
- original, handsewn plush makers are generally friendly
- original design, mass produced plush makers are sale pitches 24/7 or will override any conversation topic to talk about their super great plushes
- perler bead artists are awkward as fuck or very 'craft mom'-y
>>
>>9006651
You can't really increase resolution. You can tweak things around in photoshop to have it look better, but really, at that size, just try to find a better image. You can try using Google's image search and filter according to size.
>>
>>9006001
>>9006651
>>9006925
If you need to increase the size of an image, you can use this site http://waifu2x.udp.jp/
>>
>>9005935
I posted once, but then again it wasn't an issue for me since I drawfagged a lot.
>>
>>9006759
i really wanted to find something about your post to disagree with, but damn

i do painterly, vaguely anime influenced stuff and being too quiet/shy is a problem i've been having
>>
>>9006759
These are so true. Especially the condescending Western artists, the only nice ones I've met were excited teens who were just really, really into Batman.
>>
Should I put another nail in the middle of each wedge, or is it fine as is?
>>
>>9006759
can you define old style?

I honestly only see the so called "kawaii" but in reality, weeaboo art style in western countries. None of the asian artists draw solely chibis and call it art.
>>
>>9007235
I'm not the OP but I'd say people that draw in the style that used to be more popular in the early 2000's, the anatomy and facial structure that's trendy in anime has changed.

And "kawaii" doesn't just mean drawing chibis, I'd think it includes accessories/decoden crafters, polymer clay sculptors and even indie lolita brands that get tables.
>>
>>9006925
>>9006940

Thanks anons, I'll suss this out when I get home from work.
>>
>>9007235
sorry, i originally described it as 'classic' but that can be interpreted in many ways...

I do mean what
>>9007248
said, people drawing in the style of older anime.

I also wouldn't say that that's true, where I go to cons at least. There are 2-3 regular asian artists who sell either mostly chibis or chibis + basic headshot prints.

but yeah it's not like those personality types apply to EVERY SINGLE artist who draws in that style, just what I have personally noticed.
>>
File: 1460431818363.png (509 KB, 743x770) Image search: [Google]
1460431818363.png
509 KB, 743x770
shy baby artist new to self promotion. i have a tumblr as my main portfolio thing, and i recently got a twitter and an instagram. are you supposed to post the same pictures on all of them, or should it all be different pictures on each? not sure of etiquette.
>>
>>9007278
I personally post mostly wips to twitter, finished works to tumblr and a combination to instagram. It's different for everyone though. I don't think it's bad to share the same images on all of them, if you get popular you can deter reposters by linking to the work being available on your other sites.
>>
>>9007278
Its up to you. Most people normally have one place that is more of a blog to post updates and wip, and another place that they just have finished pieces.

As long as you keep all your finished pieces in one place, you'll be good, thats what matters the most I think.
>>
>>9007278
It's really personal preference but I personaly only post finished pieces to tumblr, sketches/wips/ and doodles to instagram, and I just got a twitter but I plan on posting the messy sketches on there plus wips and finished pieces.
>>
>>9006298
I don't know what sketch cards go for these days but $1 is really low. I've seen people charge $2 for 45 second sharpie sketches on post it notes.
>>
>>9006280
I remember a while back I was following a really really popular artist who had gotten a question about what's popular and unpopular to sell in AA. The question had to do with whether or not it was important or monetarily more intelligent to try and cater to what's popular instead of what you liked to draw/knew about enough to draw. She had said it's actually her more niche fandom/things SHE personally really likes that sells well as opposed to things she's drawn just for the sake of popularity. In my own experience this tends to be true. If you draw something you're not really into/isn't your passion, it's going to show in your art. And who cares if you don't draw what's popular? Plenty of people will pick up the slack and people who are looking for that will spend their money there.
>>
>>9007408
I think it's less that "it's going to show in your art" and more that, with big, popular fandoms, you'll be competing with a lot more artists. If I see a shitton of Pokemon posters, for example, I'm going to go for the best quality one over the other 50. But if there's only one print for this slightly obscure series I like I'll probably buy that regardless of quality just because any merch is hard to come by for that series.
>>
>>9007428
This is actually my method to keep myself from buying too much when I walk into an AA.. I limit myself to only one item from whatever popular series I'm into at the time, but tell myself that if I find anything from xyz less popular fandoms then I'm "allowed" to spend as much as I like.
>>
>>9007408
oh god can we not have this wankery again
>>
>>9007428
Yeah, I can agree with that. I guess my point was that I've noticed in my own artwork and those I'm close with that if the passion isn't there, it's just not going to measure up as much? From artist to artist, anyway. Who even knows if other people notice.

Bottom line being you shouldn't shy away from what you like to draw just bc it's less or not at all mainstream. Especially with the bigger the con you go to, the more likely you're going to find fans who not only love that series but would gladly put down money to buy merch of it. That's all.

>>9007498
Sometimes a guy's gotta wank, my dude.
>>
>>9007408
Although it's not true for everyone, for me it's true. Like obviously the biggest shiny desu artist will sell no matter what they draw, but for me ever single print i've done for a thing i didn't care about has fallen flat despite what i think is pretty good rendering and execution. Idk.

Things i like though, i do tend to do more than one print for that fandom, maybe it's just an issue of catching people's eye? All i know is it's never worked out for me so i've stopped trying. I'd rather shot gun prints with things i actually like than things i don't so at least i had fun drawing it.

Don't get me wrong, i'd love to sell more even if i didn't like the fandom but it just does not work for me so whatever hah
>>
File: 0506162242a.jpg (380 KB, 1100x919) Image search: [Google]
0506162242a.jpg
380 KB, 1100x919
So here's a relatively random question. I make art but I also design and cut vinyl decals. Anyone ever seen someone get in trouble for selling decals in the alley? There are always a couple of people selling decals in the dealer's room at most cons, and that includes symbols like superhero symbols, or FMA alchemy symbols, etc... but with discussions about how there's issues with copyright with some of those things in the Alley, I'm wondering if the rules differ from Dealers Room to the Artist Alley.
>>
>>9007594
you will most likely get shit from other artists (perhaps not to your face) but i've never seen someone get in trouble with it. you might be reported to staff depending.
I personally think it's pretty tasteless to just copy and sell logos and you're much more likely to get a c&d but as you mentioned, it's not like you would be the first.
>>
>>9007597
Thanks for the response.

I design most of mine from scratch, but the way decals sell, simple recognizable symbols are the bread and butter for your profits. If any of these companies actually bothered to make and sell decals of their stuff, I'd stop... but at best they sell generic stickers.
>>
>>9007594
a lot of conventions will refuse you for using logos
>>
AWA will be sending out acceptance e-mails tomorrow. Good luck everyone, hope I can make it and see you guys there.
>>
>>9007594
Maybe you can design your own? Rather than using official logos or the like.
>>
My phone ended up not saving a photo, but I think it was twitter where I saw these clear acrylic charms with holographic backs? Are there any alibaba stores that do holographic charms? The ones I'm finding are the same vograce photos and nothing turns up for those keyword searches.
>>
>>9007661
I saw those on Instagram. Pretty sure the person making those just put a holographic laminate on the charm.
>>
>>9007645
Saaaame. Good luck to you, anon.

Fucking dumb question ahead but y'all know the little extra pieces people put on their charms? What... exactly do you call them? I tried searching "transparent star beads" (looking for star shapes at this point though I know there's probably a more general term) but I'm not getting exactly what I want. Is there a certain name for them?
>>
>>9007685
we really should make a FAQ
you are looking for 'plastic star charm'
>>
Just got accepted into AWA. I'm from Canada though and wondering if this show is worth flying over for, I heard mixed reviews from last year. Any thoughts? I'm a print artist with a fairly large following.
>>
With all the mass produced charms on the market now, how much can I sell my 1" shrinky dink charms for? I feel like I can't sell them for what they used to go for, since acrylic charms are cheap and easily accessible now.
I was thinking $3 for a keychain? Or is that still too much?
>>
>>9007146
looks fine as is
>>
>>9007786
I sell mine (they're the inkjet printer kind) for $7.50 with little bells attached. Acrylic isn't widespread in my area yet, though.
>>
>>9007594
It doesn't really belong in AA; all you're doing is taking preexisting art (logos) and sending it to your cutter. Even if you're tracing over to make your own vectors it's not cool. Consider if you tried tracing over official artworks, or just printing them directly, and trying to sell it in the AA. It's the same thing. I understand it makes you money but that doesn't make it fine. You're not doing any creative work, any design, etc.

I also admit I'm salty as fuck about decal "artists" who bring their giant boards loaded with 1000 black and red decals for every show that exists, taking up a space a legit artist could occupy. I have no respect for that shit.
>>
>>9007945
>>9007594
i gotta agree with the other anon here, it's no better than those perler bead 'artists' who just sell sprites straight from games.
>>
>>9007594

At least for Funimation properties, the symbols are still something they will ask you to take down or cover up. Haven't seen it for the FMA symbols yet, but AoT patch symbols for sure have run into issues. Especially if all your "art" is just literally a copy of the symbol from a show, that's lazy and doesn't really belong in AA or Dealer's unless it's licensed decals.
>>
>>9002681
>crotchfruit
Brilliant, going to use that later.
>>
>>9007739
if you make a bank normally you'll probably make some profit at awa but it'll probably be your least profitable con of the year aside from the really tiny ones.
>>
>>9007652
I do mostly, see >>9007615

>>9007945
Ah, the reaction I was expecting, which is probably why I'll avoid bringing them, maybe even my original ones. I make legitimate art too, but I'm not into making charms and just wanted to bring small cheap things to sell with my prints. Oh well... I don't need to piss off half the Alley just getting back into tabling again after a long hiatus.

>>9008115
The guys who sell nothing but decals in the Dealers have done FMA for years. No idea about AoT, haven't hit a con in over a year. Again, this isn't all I do. Oh well, back to hiding in the threads again.
>>
sorry for my noob question but could i get a link to artsmoo?
google doesn't give me anything for some reason, just some martial arts shit...
>>
>>9008642
Replace the 'moo' part with cow.
We can't put the actual name because it triggers the spam filter due to past issues.
>>
>>9008137
I prefer "fucktrophy"
>>
Anybody worried about the tsa security lines? I looks horribly bad and I'm so worried about missing my flight or not being able to check my luggage with my merch.
>>
>>9008558

The Funimation policy hasn't been in place for years, though, so it's possible they've just gotten away with it until now regarding the FMA decals. Decals are fine, and people sell things like stickers and bumper stickers in AA, so it's not the medium that's the issue, it's the content. Anything that's directly taken from a show, be it a symbol or a logo, is just inviting the licensor to tell you to take it down, or worse, get reported for bootleg.
>>
>>9008152
Why is this? Lots of competition? (not him btw)
>>
>>9008671
People at AWA didn't do as well as they normally would last year. Some of it was due to the AA and dealer room merging into to one room. Print sales where slow, but you have a lot of trickets, buttons, and charms you should do fine.
>>
>>9008689
Ahhh I see, that's unfortunate to hear. Will they also be merging the two rooms this year as well?
>>
>>9008671
not even lol. people just don't spend as much in the atlanta area. it's just more impoverished or hit harder by the economy, competition is no better and probably actually significantly worse compared to cons of the same size.

FWIW, i had WAY more merch (prints and charms) than the previous year, and actually managed to make LESS than the previous year despite doing better at every other con in 2015 compared to previous year.
>>
>>9008660
I dunno, I remember Funi getting on a decal seller as early as...I think 2005? I think it was Ushicon 4 that I remember hearing Funimation staff wanted a decal seller in AA shut down for selling decals of logos and titles, but maybe that was a fringe case.
>>
>>9008653
just get to the airport on time??? if you're really paranoid just arrive at the airport 2 hrs early. Have fun sitting at your gate for over an hour waiting though desu.
>>
>>9006759
>http://www.centerforcopyrightintegrity.com/about-carrie-devorah.html

You are spot on.

I fall into the painterly type.... Yep this is me. Been next to pretty much all these types. We should make like a book.
>>
>>9008653
>>9008849

This second anon is obviously not following the news. It's actually a big issue right now. Someone flying out from my airport got there 2 hours early and still missed their flight. A friend of mine just went on a trip and I'm waiting to ask her about it when she gets back, I think they ended up going like 3 hours early. If you're flying out of a major hub airport I'd get there really early, smaller airports MIGHT not be too bad.
>>
>>9008849
>>9008907
Yeah I was about to say that that anon must not know hiw crazy it is right now. I live in a major city but will be flying through a smaller airport. I originally thought 2 hours would be ok, but now i'm not so sure. I really can't miss my flight so i'm leaning towards 3 hours.
>>
File: 200_s.gif (49 KB, 357x200) Image search: [Google]
200_s.gif
49 KB, 357x200
>>9007645
I was put on the waitlist.
>>
>>9009130
There's always a ton of tables at AWA. I wouldn't worry about it.
>>
File: 1440933001687.jpg (37 KB, 500x395) Image search: [Google]
1440933001687.jpg
37 KB, 500x395
>>9006759
>strictly western comic artists at anime conventions are arrogant and condescending

I-I'm sorry you feel that way, anon.

I guess we don't actually have anime conventions in Australia, just general pop/culture conventions, but in my experience:

>Best
Australian-born professional comic artists who still come to conventions and just hang out, being cool guys. They're always really kind and inspirational. Ex: Mark Sexton.
>Worst
The generic 'Tumblr kawaii' scribblers whose work consists only of ironic/bitchy sayings and fat samefaces. They just sit around circlejerking eachother for their diversity the entire time. Ex: Mel Stringer.

Everybody else is just generally okay. No notable groups.
>>
>>9009139
I've been put on waitlist before at another con, and later got accepted, so I know there is still a chance, but it is kinda heart breaking.
>>
File: ugh.png (25 KB, 517x398) Image search: [Google]
ugh.png
25 KB, 517x398
It's the universe telling you to stop.
>>
>>9008876
a little field guide to spotting the various species of the AA

>>9009179
don't take it so personally anon. obviously there are exceptions but there's often that (usually white late twenties-early thirties) comics-only white guy looking down his nose at all the 'kids' and their anime...despite having willingly signed up for and paid to table at an anime convention.


adding to my previous list:
- watercolor artists (or artists selling a lot of traditional originals) tend to be very sweet/quiet but friendly
- guys with a wall of prints and no other merch are either incredibly aggressively friendly or stone cold to everyone that walks past
>>
>>9009203
oh noes, now the sjws have started attacking the pokemon fandom. fat animals are totally new to the AA, in fact to art in general
>>
>>9009257
there is no such thing as a fat animal in real life
>>
>>9009275
theres no such thing as dragons or cat girls in real life either but nobody gets mad about them being drawn? i dont understand why it would make you mad that someone drew a fat animal. i assume you only draw photorealistic portraits and landscapes
>>
>>9009278
Stop being defensive
>>9009275
Stop being an idiot
at the thread in general:
do you guys ship internationally? if so, do you work your shipping prices into your product prices or not? have you had any issues with shipping internationally re: more orders going missing or arriving damaged compared to shipping domestically?
>>
>>9009278
Because she's probably drawing them as a "lol body positivity" thing rather than just drawing cute fatty animals, she probably wouldn't have phrased it the way she did if it was just chub pokemon since a lot of people already draw chub pokemon and the fact that they're fat isn't worth mentioning unless it's THE POINT. I'm all for the whole "learn to love your body" thing but body positivity pokemon is dumb.
>>
Ok now I know Fanime jury is picking at random. I got in initially but the artists getting through in the waitlist according to the fb group have been so questionable in terms of quality.
>>
>>9009440
Calling them 'fat' doesn't mean she's trying to promote body positivity through Pokemon. It means she drew them fat. Because chubby animals are cute. You are an idiot.
>>
>>9009556
Roundish animals are cute, but fat animals are pretty gross. An obese dog or cat is not as cute as a roundish puppy or kitten. Draw what you like, but why would you think a pokemon abuse print would sell if not for "body positivity" reasons.
>>
>>9009440
why would you make that assumption without actually seeing the prints, at all? if i was drawing rounded/chubby chibi type pokemon i'd probably call them fatties too.

>>9009581
>pokemon abuse

yeah, i'm sure it's much more likely to be a depiction of some wheezing diabetes riddled pokemon, rather than someone using 'fat' to describe a rounded style. holy shit, dude.
>>
Is AWA worth flying to?

I pull a comfortable amount at conventions that size and I'm trying to decide if it's worth it. I have friends who do very well there, but I've also heard the past two years were very lacking.
>>
>>9008907
>>9008927
Was there a terrorist attack i missed? I don't understand why this summer would be any worse than last summer. I guess your best bet is to google your local airport and see if you're being affected and plan accordingly. I have TSA precheck so i don't really plan to get there any earlier, historically i've never had to spend more than 40 minutes in line for check in + tsa even before tsa precheck though so guess i'm just lucky, though i fly to 6-8 cons a year and then 3 other cross country flights a year..
>>
>>9004804
I was selling at a local con when one of the tables a further down the open area decided they need music.
>They get a speaker from somewhere
>Proceed to play nyan cat
>A 5 hour loop of nyan cat
Too make it worse nyan cat was my wake-up alarm at the time (nothing like a annoying song to make sure you wake up)
>>
>>9009640
tsa wants more funding and by their logic, being slow and obnoxious will get it.
>>
>>9009654
.... well in that case i'm praying they just abolish the modern tsa and roll back to pre 9/11 procedures instead.
>>
>>9009703
>roll back to pre 9/11 procedures
That definitely won't be happening any time soon
>>
>>9009703
Ahhh the good old days when I could sit in the cockpit if I asked.
>>
>>9009707
I can dream.

Anyway good luck to all my fellow fliers i guess i should warn people going to acen since it looks like chicago is the one getting the most dicked right now.
>>
>>9009732
do i have to point out the obvious that when i said that i meant the security screening segment of "procedures"? I mean i thought it was obvious but i maybe you are slow. or just trying to pick a fight because you can.
>>
>>9009740
Not the original anon, but I'm p sure they just meant that there were less security concerns back then. Going through security screening was a breeze, and she exaggerates that you could even "go into the cockpit" because they weren't constantly paranoid about terrorist attacks.
>>
>>9009740
Chill out anon. I brought that up because in hindsight I can't believe I was ever allowed to do that. Stop reading every comment assuming that someone is bitching at you.
>>
>>9009744
That's not an exaggeration, you actually could. But that issue was clearly not what was being referenced in the original post.
>>
>>9009751
Ah. I was really young and only flew once before 9/11 so that just seems bizarre to me
>>
>>9009636
It definitely isn't worth flying to. Many of the artists that flew in had a difficult time breaking even.

Overall AWA seems like a con where if you aren't local it's not worth the trouble.
>>
>>9009654
The shitty part is that there's a huge congregation of people in line for the TSA checkpoints now, which is a huge security hazard. Thanks, TSA.
>>
>>9009734
Really stressed out about going to acen because it looks like a nightmare in chicago. I'm going to have to leave the con early on sunday so that i can get to the airport like 4 hours before my flight.
>>
>>9009795
Yeah seconding this. Don't do awa unless you're local. People are super cheap and they think really hard about spending $5 at your table, let alone $15-20 on a print.
Drove 10 hours to Atlanta instead of flying for awa last year to save a bit of money becouse I knew it wasn't going to be very good but I did not realize just how cheap people are.
For reference I usually make 3-5k at a 3 day con the size of awa but at awa I barely made $900 and I was Lucky becouse none of my nieghbors even broke $500.
>>
Hmmm... are there any craft artists that have AWA experiences? I got in but I'm second-guessing going, now, but everyone with negative stories seems to be a print artist.
>>
>>9010186
I've never been, but I heard last year was a bit of a clusterfuck management wise.
One example being the way reg was organized

>standing in registration line for 5+ hours
>artists not having paid for their tables before getting to the con
>no one knows what the fuck is going on
>>
>>9010254
The table next to me were crafters. One of them (plushies) made around $300 and her first sale wasn't until Saturday afternoon.
>>
>>9009636

I'm >>9008152 for AWA. Since someone posted numbers, i normally make 5-7k at a con like this. Two years ago i made 2.8k. last year i made 2.4k. It just keeps going down despite having better and more merch. As you can imagine if you don't make 5-7K at cons your numbers will be scaled down...accordingly so artist beware..
>>
>>9010284
How do you even reach that level of incompetence? Cons tend to be shit at paying other people, but they're usually pretty good at being paid.
>>
>>9010284
Old AA head left and the new one isn't the most organized.
>>
So I hope this isn't an obnoxious question....
the artist alleys i go to tend to be fairly small and for the first time, i've been placed next to an artist who is noticably more well-known (arguably skilled?) than me and we have several overlapping fandoms in terms of merchandise.
Do you guys find that being direct neighbours with someone selling the same fandoms as you impacts your sale....? I'm hoping that the fact that this artist only sells prints and I sell other merchandise (charms, buttons, etc) means it won't be too bad, but I can't help but be nervous.
>>
>>9010826
honestly I have never had problems with neighbors being better than me, I'm pretty middle of the road. I don't get more traffic from worse people around me too, i usually get worse traffic if i'm in a row of people worse than me

It means that if there's a line around that table people are going to look at yours while waiting to look at hers so... you get some traffic you might not normally get!!
>>
>>9010254
Yarn crafter here. AWA was my second most profitable convention in the year up until last year. I only made roughly $700, when I was making about $2k+ in the previous years.
>>
>>9010427
Wasn't the previous AA head Ribbit? The way she was running the alley wasn't exactly fair and let a lot of her personal issues get in the way of deciding whether or not someone should be accepted into the alley.
>>
>>9010826
I get nervous about this but i've never had it affect me. If anything, most of my friends say being placed next to a really popular table just gives them even more customers.

>>9011010
Yea it was ribbit. Yet it's just gone down hill since she left. Incredibly down hill.
>>
so I accidentally got a table at a comic con..
I draw mostly animu stuff...
should I cancel?
>>
>>9011104
depends, how much is the table? there's plenty of overlap between anime and comic fans. comic cons tend to be kind of general anyway
>>
File: s1000_01.jpg (28 KB, 650x650) Image search: [Google]
s1000_01.jpg
28 KB, 650x650
So in a couple weeks will be my first time ever flying to a con. For my print display I've been faithfully using this photography backdrop stand (same thing as pic, basically), which I find nice and lightweight and easy to set up. However, even when it's all folded up and packed away, it is still too long to fit into my suitcase (suitcase is 30" tall, poles are 36", doesn't fit even on a diagonal).

Any anons have any experience or advice on how to travel with this? I'm worried about checking it because the poles are so light, I'm afraid they might bend if handled roughly. I've tried to call the airline to see if I can take it as a carry-on, but after sitting on hold for 20 minutes I gave up. Is it worth it to just leave this stand at home and come up with another display method, just for the one con?
>>
>>9011141
Who are you flying with? Southwest Airlines lets me take it on as an extra carry-on. Never had much trouble.
>>
>>9011129
the table is free because it's a first year con (t's from an established organizer though)

it was advertised as a comic manga video games con, but all the guest seems to be either western comics or geek culture people and when I checked the line-up, all the other artists seem to have their own comic and stuff, I feel kind of out of place with all my glittery shoujo shit...
>>
>>9011150
If it's free, I would say go for it. Maybe your stuff will fulfill a niche if everyone else is doing western.
>>
>>9011150
If you have nothing better to do, go for it I guess. I personally do very well at anime conventions, but absolutely terrible as comic leaning conventions.

>>9011005
wow, How is that? I guess it has to do with awa being a more expensive convention?
>>
>>9011230
AWA Is actually one of the cheapest cons to attend, both ticket pricing and hotel pricing. Just goes to show how impoverished the area i think.
>>
>>9003131
Keep in mind it's different show organizers this year. They are trying some weird insurance thing with vendors where they want you to buy a super expensive one out of Canada. Just get a tax id from Florida just in case. Again, this isn't the same people running the show and you don't know what's going to go down.
>>
I was wondering if anyone had experience with tabling in the AA vs the dealer's Hall? I got reached out to the other day by someone who had half a dealer's spot (10' x 5') at Fanime, and I'm not sure I'll make it through the AA waitlist. From what I understand traffic being much higher can be both a good and bad thing, it probably doesn't help that I'm a print artist as well.
>>
>>9011268
Just so you know, Friday was the last day to submit all your information for the artist alley (seller's permit, badge #, etc) so no one else can really get dropped at this point, and with one week to the con I find it unlikely that many would drop out themselves. Your chances of getting off the wait list are stupid slim right now.

Take or don't take the dealer's hall slot, but you're probably not getting into Fanime otherwise.

Also, as a print artist, just know people will generally automatically assume that you're not the artist/a reseller if you're in the dealer's. Shouldn't impact you too much so long as your stuff can sell though.
>>
>>9011230
It was more the fact that they oversaturated the artist alley, while sharing the space with the dealer's room. This wouldn't have been an issue if there wasn't a giant traffic breaking space between the two, with no signs to lead people over to the artist alley.

Minor reason: Badges ended up being $100 more than usual.

So all in all, having to wait in line for ~5 hours due to the incompetency of their staff, despite there only being 30 people ahead of me, having to go through a second check in process at the artist alley, and then ending the weekend with a slim profit made me extremely hesitant about reapplying. They are under new management after ribbit left them to deal with a shit storm, so maybe this year they will be able to learn from last year's mistakes.
>>
I guess this is more a question towards a consumer standpoint, but I'll ask it nonetheless.

If you went to a booth, and bought a print, and it didn't have a protective sleeve with it, would you be upset?

Basically: I ordered all my sleeves and just got them today only to figure out... I ordered the wrong size for my 8x11 prints. Really stupid mistake on my part, but I'm sort of SOL in terms of getting new ones... I don't have the time or money now. I have to sell them without sleeves.

Would this be a deal-breaker for you, or am I making this out to be a way bigger deal than it is? Not like I can fix it if it IS a big deal, I just want to know what to expect, I guess.
>>
>>9012138
It's not that big of a deal. People might already have sleeves and slip your print into the one they already have. It's not a deal breaker or anything, but it does make you look slightly cheap if you don't have them. If you explained yourself (if asked), then people would probably understand.
>>
>>9011268
From what I've heard, sales are not significantly higher in the dealer's hall vs. the AA. The downside to that, of course, is the fact that you have to pay more for a dealer's hall booth, but if you already do pretty well at Fanime, the increased costs can be a negligible loss.
>>
>>9012138
Essentially what >>9012140 said. You can even say you ran out of sleeves, if you want a little ego inflation.
I've never seen someone turn down a print just because it had no sleeve, but it does make me cautious about the print's safety.
>>
>>9012140
I'm glad... The thing that bothers me most is that I DO have sleeves for my smaller prints, but not for 8x11... I hope people are understanding, hahaha.
>>
>>9012138
Honestly about half of my customers are bewildered when I pull out a sleeve for a print. Maybe the other artists at the cons I go to are consistently cheap ass, but I'll always have multiple people surprised that I include a sleeve, so I don't think it's a must.

I think at one con a customer even asked if they were really free in a super surprised tone which leads me to believe some scumbo artist was charging people extra for sleeves.
>>
>>9012138
Sleeves are something very nice, but I don't assume an artist will have them. Probably about 40-30% of artists I've purchased from didn't have sleeves, and I typically slide everything into the same sleeve anyways.

I HAVE however bought a print from someone because they had sleeves with handles, though. That shit was gold. (They had good art but no fandoms I was super into, so I was on the fence anyways, but when I saw another customer get an 11x17 sleeve with handles that cinched the deal.)
>>
>>9011147
I'm flying out using Southwest, so I'm glad to hear that shouldn't be an issue. Flight back is with Delta, so I'll see if I can find out their policy... if all else fails, I might just seek out an alternate means of display.
>>
>>9012201
Usually people who are more comic convention based tend to know everything costs extra. When I attend them as a attendee, I assume everything is a extra charge. I've tend to estimate 20-30$ more per autograph or comic artist commission because of extra charges. Also some artists know they have this mindset since it the norm, and charge extra. Like anything that can protect your merch is a extra $0.25-$1 charge at some artist booths. It's gross. I now carry hard slips, sleeves and cardboard rolls to protect my stuff to avoid it.
>>
File: image.jpg (524 KB, 1918x2371) Image search: [Google]
image.jpg
524 KB, 1918x2371
>AANI is not an art sharing group!
>mods don't even bother to delete random shit that gets posted with no to very little relevance to aa's

Might as well make it a free for all where we can post anything we want.
>>
>>9012476
i am SO FUCKING TIRED of people sharing random shit to the group like it's their own facebook feed

and not only that, but the people who reply positively every single time

i want to leave the group so bad but every once in a million blue moons there's a gem of new information to be had
>>
>>9012491
The next super not AA related thing that gets posted will be getting a negative reply from me. I don't even give a shit if I get banned from AANI.
>>
>>9012495
hell, if i see it happen i'll back you up
>>
>>9012476
I wish they would judge whether or not something is a 'wip' on WIPW as harshly as they do for self-promotion. so many finished products get posted for ass pats - the fact that you have yet to attach keychains to your finished charms does not make it a WIP.
>>
>>9001194
I like them. I was quoted 40 cent each for 30 mirrors. The mirrors are 3 inches big.

They also have different type of overlays besides the default milar/plastic. This one has a silver glitter overlay on it. They have a grid, semi gloss, and faux leather style overlays.

I'm getting a sample of their compact mirrors made.
>>
>>9011237
>North Atlanta
>impoverished
Spot the non-local
>>
>>9012508
do you have an online store? I'd love to get some of your art.
>>
>>9011324
>>9012164
Thanks for the comments guys, I really appreciate it! I've decided not to table after all and instead help out my friends who got tables and work on cosplaying. Gonna take it easy this year I guess.
>>
>>9012495
Share screens with us please. I am getting really damn sick of all the clickbait things that are vaguely related to art and the "thought some of you guys would get a kick out of this!" shares of memes and tumblr posts and things like >>9012476
It's gotten to the point where I got upset seeing someone post that PBS remix Bob Ross song AND I LOVE THAT VIDEO but it's not the place to share that!
>>
>>9012530
i guess i'll just call you guys stingy then? is that better?
>>
>>9012508
Thanks Anon! Are these mirrors similar to button badges? Is the reflection good in these mirrors? No distortions?
>>
Literally the second day in a row someone's asked about glitter prints/glitter foil. Do people not know how to use the search function?

Can we make this a bannable offense because seriously...
>>
>>9012879

It should at least be something they get a strike for. The vast majority of the things on that group could be solved by google, let alone the search function in the group. I understand if it's more of "I want opinions" instead of straight up facts, but even then so many topics have already been discussed. People are just stupid and want to be spoon fed.

A FAQ doc might also go a long way because at least then it would be very easy for someone to say "there's a FAQ doc" and a mod to delete the post.
>>
>>9012476
>>9012558
>>9012879
>>9012901
Can we make another AA group that isn't shit? I'm so tired of all the """professhonal arteest""" shit that gets posted in AANI. I've seen those chameleon markers where you can "change" the saturation like 50 times in AANI alone.
>>
>>9012138
If you don't mind being ghetto, you could grab sleeve protectors from Walmart or anywhere, guillotine off the sides, and use them as 8x11" sleeves. It's last minute, and better than nothing? Or only for people that asked
>>
>>9012906

If you do one, make an application process. I wanted a group that was strictly Artist Alley, not "I sell soap at craft fairs" type shit. Have people have to list the shows they've been to or are applying for (if they're new to AA), prove that they're an artist, etc. Just something that's more real than the crap in AAIN.
>>
>>9012906
I want a new group solely to get the elitists out of AANI.
>>
>>9012965
I think that as long as they prove they're artists and open to concrit they should be allowed in- they might be preparing for their first con or still deciding which ones to apply to. Imo being able to post only relevant things, not whine about meaningless shit, and understanding that the FAQ exists for a reason are the most important things.
>>
>>9013167

Sounds reasonable. As long as you set the rules and let people know it's a strict system (like, you get one warning then you're out) and if mods are diligent about deleting shit, it should work. I would totally join.
>>
>>9012906
What you reallllllly need to do is start a group that will attract all those crafters into one new bait group.

After that start a new print artist group, that auto-filters anyone from the first group out.
Thread replies: 255
Thread images: 23

banner
banner
[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / biz / c / cgl / ck / cm / co / d / diy / e / fa / fit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mu / n / news / o / out / p / po / pol / qa / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Home]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
If a post contains personal/copyrighted/illegal content you can contact me at [email protected] with that post and thread number and it will be removed as soon as possible.
DMCA Content Takedown via dmca.com
All images are hosted on imgur.com, send takedown notices to them.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from them. If you need IP information for a Poster - you need to contact them. This website shows only archived content.