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alright you sTrumpets, explain to me how america will be great
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alright you sTrumpets, explain to me how america will be great post-trump. be specific. what's wrong now and how will it get better?

i dont' want to hear "he'll get money out of politics" that's just the problem. how exactly will that make it better for the average person? let's assume trump gets everything he wants. what does the future look like in the US?

please explain it to me. i am currently undecided but i do happen to think the US is pretty damned great already.
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>>681376073
Agree with you half way OP. Trump isn't gonna do much. But who the fuck told you America is great ? You people are a bunch of fat fags who finger other people's pies. Pun intended.
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>>681376802
well, let's see. i make 6 figures, i live in an amazing city with shit to do every day of the week. i have a 7/8 of 10 (depending on the day) gf who is also bisexual. i can get nearly everything i want any time i want it. i'm changing jobs now just because i want something more. looking into the executive level, maybe with a smaller company or a startup. i owned my own business for a while. it didn't work out but i learned from it.

life is pretty fucking great. so yeah, i think i have the US to thank for that.
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That's all you bro. You could do that in pretty much anywhere. But let's get back to your original question. How will a racist money-grabbing idiot do anything to the US ? Not anything good.
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>>681376073
AHAHAHAHAHAAH EVERYTHING IS WRONG WITH AMERICA NOW
>sage btw, work harder on your bait
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>>681378025
well you don't support trump so i dont' expect you to provide answers. i want someone who believes he'll make america "great" again to explain to me exactly what that means.
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>>681376802
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>>681378178
instead of just posting useless shit, go ahead and explain it to me. sage all you want, but i honestly want to know.

but you probably have no answers either. clearly you don't.
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>>681376073

Go to /POL/ and ask there
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>>681378653
/b is the only place i'll post or read anything on this site
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>>681378330
facepalm
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>>681378541
No one's. Radiation from the sun turned the flag white

try again faggot
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>>681376802
nobody has to tell me America is great Trump Humper
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>>681379146
looks like the moon is simply surrendering to the US. as it should be.
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>>681379250
yeah exactly. we live and breathe america's greatness every fucking day.
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>>681378541
http://gizmodo.com/5930450/all-the-american-flags-on-the-moon-are-now-white

Oops. Scientific illiteracy stumps the Americans again.
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>>681379146
>implying anyone's taken a picture of that flag in 40 years

faggot
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>>681379452
Are you actually retarded irl?
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>>681379407
yeah we do
and I really hope you're not trying to be a faggot making an ironic post
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>>681379448
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>>681379568
do you actually expect me to believe you have a closeup of a flag on the moon taken recently?

I'll fucking fight you faggot
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>>681379608
nope,. america is really fucking great. no joke. as long as you're not a useless faggot you'll have an opportunity to make it great in this amazing country.
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>>681379263
it's actually Mother Nature reminding us that the moon does not belong to the US but the people of Earth
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>>681379840
well now hold on

wages suck faggot
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>>681379840
brainwashing at it's finest
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>>681380001
have to disagree. i make a comfortable low six figures. there is nothing i want for, really. i can even get any drug i want any time of day. these days they even deliver.
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>>681380022
you have to admit those that find a way to exploit really end up living it up
of course they die of high blood pressure and heart disease oh well
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>>681380022
no need for brainwashing. life is fucking awesome.
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>>681376073
what wrong see Obama, democrats, Hillary, see isis, our policies , our economy everything is fucked, pull your head out your ass and look around.
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>>681380188
if you're really making that much money then you are not indicative of the rest of this country
realistically few people have your opportunities so no
wages suck for everyone else
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>>681380339
faggot
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>>681379146
>>681379623
How are these flags waving if there's no atmosphere to make a breeze on the Moon?
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>>681376073
greater border security or simply better immigration control. this could b doneby the wall if done(dont think it will ever be done, just a bargaining chip to drop) but most likely border agencies will be funded properly and curent laws actually enforced cracking down on use of illegal labor and when caught they actually get jailed/deported
trade deals will favor usa or at least be balanced, simple enough
military will no longer be loaned out for free to small nation or even large nations without some form of compensation. so they either pay to maintain our troops or we pack up and go
fixed/simplified tax code. doesnt even have to be lower taxes but loopholes will be closed and no longer confusing as balls
obamacare will be reformed so it isnt a fucking piece of garbage but actually good, he will also make it competitive so you arent punished for choosing to not to take governemnt plan like before and do away with the fines for choosing not to have healthcare. it will be a mix of current and old system with bad shit fixed but good stuff kept.
make budgets actually work. get rid of people who do bad work on purpose so they get called back(think road work). get rid of people who failed and mismanaged money like nasa heads who would spend 10 mil when it only costs 1mil and use the excess funds to line their own pockets
then in politics he will use ideas and people from both sides, put people who know the field AND how to get the job done into positions of power and let them do their jobs instead of having them do it in accordance to political views

essentially basic shit that you think would be common sense but hasnt been done in decades
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>>681380339
you honestly believe isis is a US only problem? just how dumb are you? it's barely a problem for the US at all. even people who kill in isis' name probably just would have for some other shit reason.

tell me what's wrong, not hte causes of what's wrong.
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>>681380547
too bad there isn't even one point on Trump's website that backs up the laughable speculation you're bringing to this thread kek
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>>681380536
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMBCfuKs9i8
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>>681380561
allow me OP
anon thinks Obama spends too much of other people's money
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>>681380561
>it's barely a problem for the US at all
True.

I'm more afraid of some cowardly cop "fearing for his life" killing me instead of a terrorist.
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>>681380547
>greater border security

what does htis lead to? ok, less mexicans. what's the long term result of less illegal mexicans in the US? they certainly aren't the worst minority we have in the US.

>better trade deals / simplified taxes
how does this manifest itself favorably for the average american? taxes affect all americans pretty much so ease up for all of them and nothing really changes across the board, the board just shifts.

>gov spends less money
ok, let's say all corruption is ended. how do americans benefit directly from this? are certain prices lower for americans becuase of it?
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>>681380001
I made 12 an hour in high school doing construction. Now iam getting my EMT basic lisence all paid for by a pel grant. Fuck you and your lazy fucking mcdonalds workers.
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>>681380188
more you make the more ways you find to spend it, you can be happy with 40k a year or you can be filthy rich not be happy and kill yourself like robin williams, ill be happy even though im busting my balls for 50k a year (canada) bitches
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Trump will fuck america and probably fuck up even more of the world than previous presidents. It's bad for America and bad for the world. Oh and America is far from great, they are the major cause of so much death and destruction in the world. Majority or American citizens are so uneducated that they just don't know.
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>>681380987
yeah you're going to tell me to fuck off while you take it up the ass to work minimum wage

fuck you faggot
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>>681376073
Ok obviously you haven't left the basement in awhile so let me give you a break down of what the current situation of the outside world is...

>health care that is even more of a joke
>because of bs health care jobs are now part time
>even if you can land a full time job gouged for mandatory health care
>no health care equals taxation at the end of year
>don't think its fair and wont pay? Tax evasion then jail
>corporate interest is shipping jobs overseas because of this
>got basic obama care? great doesn't cover shit
>more drone strikes on sovereign nations than during any other administration
>no need to declare war we aren't actually on the ground
>major tax cuts and cover ups for large corporations are now the norm
>bp oil we are so sorry
>our country is spiraling into economic crisis
>but us is pretty damned great mirite guisse?

>mfw i don't know how to fix anything but i know you have to get fucking mad and recognize there is a problem before we can work toward fixing it
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>>681380536
you are a massive faggot if you're a moon landing denier

massive
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>>681381151
>no health care equals taxation at the end of year
>don't think its fair and wont pay? Tax evasion then jail
stupid faggot
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>>681380561
um you do realize they were one al quada affiliates recruited, trained and armed the the state department under Hillary Clinton and Obama , they set them out to topple Assad (and they are still trying to do that.) They decided Syria needed a regime changed after Assad refused to play ball with america+ Israel efforts to isolate IRAN. But you see these people right out the gate formed this little group called ISIS

how do you fuckers get out of bed in the morning with out you mommy to tell you how get informed you fucks....
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>>681380938
Yea thank god that they got those evil police to stop harassing black neighborhoods. The murder rate has only tripled but thank god no evil police officers will be there to shoot a poor innocent kid like the one on PCP that was brandashing a knife.
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>>681377186
pics or it didn't happen
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>>681380828
That explains that.
Thx /b/ro
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>>681381409
the point is it barely affects the average american who doens't travel outside the country. isis is not a problem for people in the US. not really.
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>>681381624
actually they recruited two people in San Bernadino so no faggot
ISIS is here
now
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>>681381409
ISIS is more of the remants of the baathist party of Iraq, the free syrian army are the al queda supporters.
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>>681376073
Why don't you just look at his policies and judge it for yourself?
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>>681381151
companies have been shipping hsit overseas for a long time. no indication trump will stop that any time soon. and he certainly is not going to give out free health care. and even then, that isn't very conservative is it?
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>>681379146
so they are actually french flags?
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Americunts are so paranoid
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>>681381736
Drug cartels have been kidnapping and killing americans for years and bo one seems to care.
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>>681381247
Not as massive as a Faggot that jumps to conclusions when someone asks a question - which was answered and I thanked him for it.

>fuckhead
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>>681380943
>border security
means more jobs for citizens, more money in the system because those people now have jobs and pay taxes and social program have less burden. it will make the economy and government programs better off by giving them more money
>trade deals
this will be in the business sector more and government side but you can see lower prices on stuff and more money for the government to put to use. try to get rid of deficits
>no corruption
have you ever driven down a road that just had work done and already theres a pot hole? thats because construction companies do it on purpose so that will happen and the state knows it but someone is making money off hiringthe same group over and over even though they do bad work intentionally. this happens all ove so if corruption is gone then infrastructure will be done much better, no more politics forcing bad companies to get the work, no more wasted money on stuff like nasa.
imagine if the government used money wisely and didnt waste it. they would have tons left over to lower the debt, reinvest back into country, hell even lower taxes which means you get more money
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>>681381736
oh wow a dozen people dead. who gives a fuck really? there are tons worse groups, gangs, cults and shit operating in the US the assholes would have killed people in some other way probably if not for isis. certainly nothing to fear on a daily basis
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>>681381624
so the little refugee problem in Europe? Obama and Hillary partly to blame
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>>681376073
The alternative is a war hawk, who's always voted for war, because she profits from it, directly.
She's lied on numerous occasions, and has a death toll of people that supported her.

She's the worst possible choice, so anything but Hillary, faggot.
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>>681381879
i can't find anything specific. all i see is people saying america will be "great" again but nothing specific about how the lives of hte average americans will change on a daily basis
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>>681381342
you do get fined for not having healthcare and if you dont pay then you can and would be arrested
it may not be illegal to not have healthcare but if you dont pay the fines then that is illegal
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>>681382256
who cares. fuck europe too
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>>681382097
yea just because he was there over seeing an arms deal to extremists like isis no ...big deal
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>>681382329
first of all, genius, it's pretty clear that you have zero work experience. most people in this ocuntry don't get to choose to pay taxes or not - it gets taken out and hten they have to file to get some back.

there are smart people who get around that but most people in the US are in that position.
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My family is Muslim, and they were Republicans in the 90s. It definitely isn't going to be great again for them.
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>>681382293
as much as i dislike these overseas wars, it has zero affect on the average american.
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>>681382035
let's just put it on the table then:

you are a fucking faggot if you believe the moon landing was faked
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>>681382550
The annual fee for not having insurance in 2016 is $695 per adult and $347.50 per child (up to $2,085 for a family), or it’s 2.5% of your household income above the tax return filing threshold for your filing status – whichever is greater.
if you dont have it you get punished for making the choice not to have it when you dont want it
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>>681382097
>oh wow a dozen people dead. who gives a fuck really
edgy faggot
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>>681382293
liar
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>>681382720
Fuck your stupid family. I hope it gets terrible for them. Get out of my country.
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>>681382943
total agreement. fucking retarded tin foil hat wearing idiots
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>>681382329
no shithead

there is no way universal health care works unless EVERYONE is signed up
and yes that means penalties because you were too big of a faggot to enroll

stop blaming government
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>>681382960
if you can't afford to have health insurance for your kids yu shoudn't have any and if you do they should probabljy be taken away from you
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>>681380999
Nice trips. See you in OOB this summer queeb.
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>>681380561
>losing iraq (documentary)
>General Petraeus openly admits to forming, funding and training the Sons of Iraq
>promised them they would run the country after us forces pull out
>they are moderate rebels
>we renig on the deal and the Iraq government starts to hunt them down when we pull out
>they start fighting back
>they start winning
>they turn into isis
>we now hate them
>we made them
>mfw blow back
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>>681383021
are you a native american then?
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>>681382960
you get help if you can't afford it. there is not excuse for not having it these days, really
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>>681381151
>more drone strikes than any other administration

Could that possibly be due to the current prevalence of drones? Of course this one is going to have more drone strikes given they've only really been around 10-15 years, and this govt has been in power for the majority of that time.
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>>681383297
who gives a fuck about isis? certainly not hte average american. they are not and should not be afraid of ISIS in the usa.
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>>681380547
so... no citations as to what's wrong, no proof as to how this will improve the situation (only speculation), no citations even of the man you're defending. what loopholes? how have trade deals not favored us in the past and what has he proposed SPECIFICALLY to make good trade deals? how will he "improve" border security? who wants to work on the border who is actually qualified to work for the government? how does our budget not work now? what EXACTLY will he do to obamacare so that it's not "a fucking piece of garbage"? how is it a piece of garbage now?

I could go on for hours. sometimes i forget i'm on 4chan and that some people on here didn't graduate high school, much less understand how to make a cohesive argument
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>>681383333
Nope. I'm White and my ancestors conquered this land from the Natives. Nobody "stole" anything. The Natives were powerless against my forefathers and now this land belongs to us.
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>>681383297
>>we made them
but we really should be letting countries in the region like Saudi Arabia take care of dealing with that shit

Bush and Company instilled the fear that if the US doesn't get involved then they'll attack us

which is bullshit
BULL
SHIT
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>>681383442
yeah more drone strikes than nixon. how odd is that? dumb fuckers can't logic
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>>681383021
I GUESS YOU'RE REALLY MAKING AMERICA HATE AGAIN
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>>681383494
faggot
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>>681382943
Look IDIOT - I never said we didn't land on the Moon.
I asked how the flag was waving in 0 atmosphere.

You are the HOMO that jumped to the conclusion that I said the landing didn't happen.

You are the BUTTHURT Faggot that was proven wrong in his ASSumption of my question.

So go cry to your Mommy or I'll BITCH slap you again with reasoning.

>DICKbreath
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>>681383581
bump
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>>681381342
how am i stupid that is the truth its a tax for not having health care which if you don't pay is tax evasion... are you being retarded on purpose? you better not be...
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>>681383692
>ts a tax for not having health care
good
>which if you don't pay is tax evasion..
good

what part of "it's your fucking responsibility to sign up for health insurance" do you keep being a faggot about not facing?
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>>681383682
the flag wasn't actually waving as you think of it. there wasn't any air, but there was a metal rod in the top of the flag to hold it in place, and the movement you see is simply Neil putting it firmly into the ground, and it continues afterwards because there is no air friction to stop it
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>>681383515
>Let the saudis deal with it
No we should have armed the kurds and told everyone else to eat shit.hell we should have invaded iraq during 1991
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>>681381909
if he repeals the failed health care system atleast we will be able to HAVE a full time job again...
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>>681383859
NO ITS WAVING BECAUSE THE FORGOT TO TURN OFF THE AIRCONDITIONING THAT DAY
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>681381342
Brought to you by America's health insurance industry. Trying to fix a corrupt system just earns you the blame after the reforms are corrupted by economic power.
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>>681383581
Jealous bitch.
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>>681378764

No real trump supporters here

/POL/ would love to convert you into thrumpisim
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>>681376073
i have yet to see a cohesive argument from any trump supporter other than "fix the bad shit". i don't think he's the answer. of course i may be wrong, but there isn't much evidence for him
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>>681383931
>we should have invaded iraq during 1991
the same shit would have happened
yeah good plan faggot
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>>681383988
dubs of truth can't argue with that
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>>681384034
enjoy raging that Indians get your tax dollars faggot
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>>681381998
no shit we don't care where do you think the CIA budget comes from?
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>>681383968
first of all you're out of your mind. maybe it depend son the area, but here in a city where i live what you describe is not hapening.

and second, if you were smart you'd figure out a way to be a consultant and reap all the benefits from that.
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DUMP ISRAEL
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>>681384147
This guy gets it.
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>>681381998
no they haven't faggot
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i just want to btfo all the progressive normal fags and make them panic and cry when the "racist bigot hate fueled money grubber" trump becomes president. With Bernie and Trump, shit will get fucked, Hillary is a continuation of the status quo for the most part but it would be fun to see Trump win
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>>681384313
actually if Trump does win?

Faggots like you who voted for him will be beaten up regularly 6 months into his term
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>>681382093
>waste money on stuff like nasa
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>>681383931
Yes I understand that now as the other anon posted the video that explained it.

But thx forg reintegrating the answer.
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>>681384126
No they don't Their tribal money is generated through the Casinos on their reservations.
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>>681382860
But major affect on the world.
Every hear of ISIS?
9/11?
To many others to count, blame things on American wars.
That's great you feel comfy in your safe space, she will still fuck up the world.
>>681383015
GOOD ARGUMENT. They teach you that in fingerprinting class?
Do better, or stfu.
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>>681384040
i'm just hoping, even if you don't support trump or don't think he can do it, what would a "fixed" america look like for the average american?

we know full well, logically, that we can't all, every one of us, have great, amazing, high paying jobs. it doesn't work that way. and no way would trump think that it does. he can always pay everyone in his companies the same high pay. but of course he doesn't, he pays a range just like is reflected in the pays of people across this country.
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>>681384486
>implying all tribes have casinos
nope enjoy finding out that money that could have gone to your 1% buddies went to redskins
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Here's my problem with Trump: supposing he does get the republican nomination after all his whining about the system, and suppose he actually manages to beat Hillary despite virtually every poll so far showing he won't (cause yeah, polls this far out don't mean shit), then he gets to be president with both dems and republicans in both houses, and at basically all levels of state government, doing everything they can to sabotage him and make sure he is remembered as the worst president in history. Even if he was a political genius, which he demonstrably is not, he has no chance of running an effective administration under those circumstances. If you guys are looking for a candidate who is going to "change the system" you can't start with the fucking president. You've got to elect people to all levels of government or they are just going to sink your guy before he every gets to the whitehouse. A Trump administration, even on the slim chance that it happens, is already sunk. If he were responsible he would drop out now, build a national coalition over the next 4 years, put like-minded people in congress and the senate, and then run in 2020. That's the thing though, Trump doesn't care about actual change, or about being effective. He's just about Trump's ego, and you idiots are dumb enough to feed it without realizing that, in doing so you are effectively throwing out this chance to play any type of long game and getting the change you actually want in the near future. America will get exactly the politicians it deserves in 2016, again.
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>>681384564
let's just go through it line by line k?

>he alternative is a war hawk
bullshit
who's always voted for war
>bullshit
>because she profits from it, directly.
prove it faggot
>
She's lied on numerous occasions, and has a death toll of people that supported her.

name even one lie or an example of a "death toll"
you are a massively butthurt faggot lying about shit like a stupid faggot butthurt right winger who can't handle America is going to elect Clinton for 8 years of your fucking life
admit it
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>>681384695
Sweet baby Jesus!

This anon gets it.
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>>681384695
i just want to know how things will change if trump gets his way in every single thing. whats the long term best case scenario outlook here? how will the american citizen's life change on a daily basis?
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>>681384408
by who?
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>>681383549
wow not at all what i said or even implied but w/e
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>>681384671
No shit. And not all tribes have lots of disposable income either. And I don't have any "1% buddies" you liberal puss-bag. Go smoke some pot and listen to some faggoty punk rock, you pathetic loser.
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>>681384954
If Trump gets his massive tax cut package passed, which admittedly is the most likely promise to gain traction, the US would lose tens of billions, if not hundreds of billions in lost revenues

social programs would be cut and the economy would not be revitalized because Trickle Down Economics DO NOT WORK
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>>681385028
whom.

you thought grammar nazis were bad? just wait
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>>681385105
>And I don't have any "1% buddies" you liberal puss-bag.
I stand corrected

the 1% whose ass you suck don't get that money because liberals like me support social welfare for poor native americans
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>>681384954
basically not that much. Presidents don't actually have as much sweeping ability to change the fabric of america as we think. Even the ACA doesn't really make all that much difference in your daily life. The exception is when something unexpected and truly monumental happens. A 9/11 event with trump in office would likely lead to a substantially different future than with Hillary in office
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>>681385214
i think you;re probably right but i'm looking for someone who believes in fixing the US even if they don't believe trump can actually get it done.
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>>681383850
a majority of the people the system was designed to help fall through the cracks and can't get on obama care and don't make enough to get healthcare either so what say you now?
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>>681385028
by real people
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>>681384695
I would still rather have somebody in the position of President not performing the status quo. If we had any of the other candidates we would simply be inviting them to fuck us in the ass with our expressed permission. I'd like to think that Trump might make that a bit more difficult for them to do.
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>>681385502
you're so full of shit faggot
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>>681385502
they still get all the help they need, despite not having health insurance. the system works.
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>>681376073
it will be exactly the same the next morning
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>>681384936
I can only answer one issue at a time.
Death toll of known associates
It's well publicized, but I found the worst possible info source, with the most info.
http://mobile.wnd.com/2016/01/death-list-and-irs-ravaged-women-of-clinton/
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>>681385850
what about 4 years later?
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>>681385918
>wnd.com
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

faggot
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>>681385447
I truly hope you don't pass on your feminized bleeding-heart genetics. Your sons would grow up to be trannies.
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>>681385975
rinse and repeat
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