That little faggot needs to get a job.

Free will

>>691958993
Because it's full of corruption and greed

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But this is the best of all possible worlds, anon.
Why would you want to fix it?

Hurr durr, I don't want to work therefore give me free stuff

>>691959304
Yup, those parasites are everywhere.

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>>691959304
Classic example of greed right here, folks.

>>691959304
there is no real reason for anyone to have > 5 billion in money

>>691959477
The simple fact that they can is reason enough. There is no need to justify anything.
The limit you set is entirely arbitrary.
If you had more than 5 billion dollars, you wouldn't have that opinion.

How about you stop being a self-righteous faggot for a bit.

because we're the reason the world is shit in the first place

>>691958993
Let's start with the rich niggers who make 3 million dollars each time they bounce and shoot a rubber ball at a hoop for 60 min. They should share

>>691958993
because we don't give a fuck. at all.

>>691958993
Because people would rather feel sorry for themselves and feel entitled to handouts and they're also under the impression that those of us who aren't lazy pieces of shit and actually work for a living, don't have our own problems. These people are fucking cancer. Oh and also the jew propaganda forcing us to pretend all races are the same and being a faggot isn't an illness. The world is going to absolute shit. I always wanted kids but I'm not going to force an innocent life into this fucking mess.

>>691961768
this

>>691958993
the world's priorities are fucked up so bad we can't get them straight. also isis.

>>691958993
poor people should stop complaining and do something with their lives

/thread

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>>691961768
this is something i agree with

however i don't feel like everybody should be shared with, only those who can't work.
i would probably be dead if i didn't get financial help from the state.
there is no workplace that wants a broken worker that may or may not be able to work at least two days in a row.

i hate not being able to earn my own money but its the only choice i got

>>691958993
Poor people should get a job

>>691961768
yup definetly sport dosnt worth so much money ... i live in spain so i know how frustrating is for the people to know that some of random dude who's good at kicking a ball wins more in a year then what he will get on his entire life.

>>691958993
donating would be a way to help the poor, but you can't really trust these donation-organizations (or what are they called) when some of these were caught stealing the money..

>>691958993
let's say that everybody had a fair share.

who is going to clean the toilets and phone booths? how are we going to stop the virus that breeds there from wiping out humanity?

>>691958993

Your question is far to vague to be answered properly.

>>691963634

Out of curiosity what's wrong with you?

>>691958993
Poor people should work.
>minimum education
>minimum motivation
>minimum wage
You fail at life because you're lazy and stupid, not because others are mean.

>>691959477
there is no reason for you to be alive

>>691964088
cluster headaches
not fun

>>691958993
I love how poorfags have been brainwashed into thinking they deserve being poor. Peasants are hilarious. Have fun working your life away while we sit on our asses

>>691958993
Fag i work 12+ hours a day... one day of the week off for the past 3 years... and you want me to share... fuck off to work and pay taxes...

>>691958993
I know lots of rich people and all are very generous, give loads to charity. Not to mention the taxes they pay that get redistributed to poorer people.
>Rich people do share

>>691958993
Because we blame our problems on rich people

>>691958993
Because
A - No one is willing to make the sweeping changes in thought and attitude that such a thing would require
B - Jews

>>691958993

because people indoctrinate their kids with their opinions, thus brain washing them since childbirth.

/lefty who thinks the sign is wrong anyways

>>691964824
This

Fuck the poor. Bunch of freeloaders.

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>>691964857
So there's nothing to gigantic companies eating up or destroying potential enemies before they can become a danger?

>>691963489

>still hasn't figured out that you can't /thread your own post...

>>691958993
Fuck you kid, they do. It's called taxes. Who do you think payed for all your "affordable housing" and "sliding scale" medical.

Now get your shit together.

>>691965141
if the smaller companies agree to be purchased they weren't so phenomenal in the first place, and it's not some tragedy.

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>>691959304
>implying rich people work MORE than poor people.

>>691965410
rich people work better

>>691958993
We are. Every year the world gets better, no more living in caves, no more drinking mercury to cure slap butt. It is getting better.

>Entrepreneurs use research, creativity and hard work to be inventive
>Sacrifice savings to invest in new bussineses
>Risk, have stress, work long hours
>Operate on thin margins
>Pay a lot in taxes
>Create wealth, get the economy moving
>Better economy makes live better for everyone in society

But then the socialist idiots go (with good intentions, mind you!)
>Hurr durr it's not fair
>Increase taxes on the rich
>Increase wellfare state
>Get universal income
>Set minimal wages
>More government
>Get more regulation
>Profit margin gets razor thin
>Enterpreneurs though of opening new bussiness >But nah, too much risk and effort for a low reward, I'll just retire I guess lol

>Move bussiness overseas
>Hide taxes in tax havens

And then:
>Economy stagnates
>Government spending greater than income
>Massive cuts
>Unemployment rises
>Bussineses don't hire people with minimal wage because they can't afford it
>People can't get jobs
>Poverty increases
>Everyone is worse off

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>>691961768
>>691963177
>>691964005

Athletes don't just make money out of thin air. It comes mainly from companies who are using their image to make even more money. Fame itself can make money. Being in the right place at the right time can make money. Its not unfair or unjust, its just another way to make money from people who want to give them their money.

>>691965141
Sounds like if you were a danger, you should stay in business.

>>691965410
Well somebody obviously wants whatever they have more than a poor person

>>691965595
No rich people, pay poor people, to work hard for them.

>>691965688
If what you said was true, then how did we get to where we are today?

>you're a fucking retard and this line of thought combined with trickle down economics is why the country is shit today

>>691965595
no, they're just in areas that gives more money.
And usually, it's a fucking incentive.

" you study for 8 years to be a doctor, here, have a 6k/month salary. "

that's human, and it's disgusting.

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>>691965396
Well this prevents competition which allows established companies do whatever the fuck they want including but not limited to reducing overall quality and raising the price of the product for no aperrent reason.
The "two" biggest sellers of electronics in germany are part of the same company - for two reasons: a) it's forbidden by law that one eats the other b) people can be tricked into thinking they have a choice.

>>691965882
yeah once you have capital you can invest it to so you don't have to do menial tasks that a monkey could do yourself. some people are monkeys, and will go on doing monkey tasks forever. not only can they never put together the capital to hire other monkeys, they would be unable to do the more complicated tasks involved in non-menial labor.

>>691966113
This.

So many professions being paid bullshit amounts, for hardly any actual labor.

I guarantee that in any hospital, nurses are doing way more than any doctor.

Most doctors, unless they're running their own practice are nothing but paper pushers, signing off on stuff that nurses could do themselves.

>>691964428
Oh sweet fuck Jesus you poor bastard.

That is the most understated name in the history of medicine.

>>691958993
humans are an inherently shitty species

>>691964428
wait
thats a thing?

>>691966155
it doesn't prevent competition unless the leaders of the competing companies agree to be purchased. I don't see the injustice in that. I guess your pea brain should make that decision for these companies

>>691966375
>implying that most rich people aren't born rich
>implying business administration is mentally challenging.

Besides nursing, business degrees are the number one major in most colleges.

And aside the from the math involved in higher economics, none of it is challenging.

The hardest part is probably the public speaking courses.

>>691966113
This, this, this; and I'm in a stem degree. I really don't believe that I deserve $60K a year just for fapping my way through a bachelor's in engineering.

I really think society should move poor people to things like Amazon's mechanical turk, or other more tech-oriented jobs. It's getting easier and easier to automate things like burger flipping and cleaning with robots.

>>691966049
>how did we get to where we are today?

Through the (mostly) free market. Because that computer or smartphone you're typing on didn't create itself because of 'wealth distribution'

>trickle down
Not the same thing

>>691966049
We are the richest large nation in the world anon...

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>>691966718
>wah someone was luckier than me
>wah i studied a subject that wasnt in demand
So what? They went the way of money, you didnt.

>>691966718
if you spend 4 years in school studying something really hard only to make little money, while others study something easy and end up making bank, who is the real retard?

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We have one chance left. Google (and the military no doubt) are working their asses off to jumpstart A.I.

If you think Einstein with his IQ of 180 did a lot to help humanity, just imagine what a properly programmer machine god with an IQ of 12800 could do for us.

>>691966673
Probably one of the worst things in existence

>>691959304
Everything should be free. The world has achieved enlightenment,why is only some people allowed that mental state? Everyone has the right to enlightenment and mental awareness. The stupid nigger living in some 3rd world country earning less than 10$ a day will never achieve enlightenment. We talking majority here. Free everything will allow mental progress and eradicate war.

>>691966113
>>691966113
Maybe you should be a doctor rather than bitch about doctors making more money than you.

>>691958993
Leave the EU !

>>691966711
The leader of a company thinks less of the society then the big pile of money on his table.
My pea brain seems to know a little more about economics then you ;^)

>>691967134
I think it would create a war between producers and consumers actually

liberty nigga, we have the natural laws, of the jungle, but freedom. thats why

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>>691967098
nuclear holocaust

>>691967258
Maybe you should start thinking that way?

>>691967134

You, sir, are an idiot.

>>691958993
Because no one is willing to eradicate the poor.

>>691966790
>society should move poor people
just stop. don't form opinions on politics and economics if you're an autistic number cruncher

>>691964428
I once saw a documentary on it years ago and apparently bromo-LSD is good for it

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>>691958993
I never understood why rich people don't share until I became well off myself. When I was a lazy sack of shit, all I did was sit around coveting what rich people have, or anyone with means who were better off than I was. Then I got off my ass and joined the military. For the cost of 4 years of my freedom, I got 4 years of college paid for. Which was a pretty good deal honestly bc what the fuck else do you have to do between the ages of 18 and 22? Ironically, that's the typical age range of entitled little shits like most you who sit around and cry "share the wealth" bc you just can't wrap the concept of doing something with your life beyond jerking your little cocks to girls who don't give you the time if day bc you're all a bunch of losers with no jobs and shit. But I digress...

It wasn't until a few years ago, I was about 32 years old and hit six figures for the first time that I realized why rich people don't want to share their wealth. Bc it's hard earned. And I'll be goddamned if some entitled little shit like you is going to prosper in any way from the hard work I've put in for 20 fucking years while you sit around coveting what I have bc you're too lazy to get it yourself. I'm definitely more conservative now than I was at your age bc I've learned the value of money. My parents never gave me shot. I left home at 18 and have built a life of my own with my own bare hands and my advice to you is you best figure the shit out bc no one is going to give you a goddamn thing. And if you're my age and you still think I ought to share my wealth bc you're too lazy to earn it yourself, go fuck yourself.

>>691967353
I like to think people should be granted the fairest product for the money they pay and this is only guaranteed when two or more companies fight for the customers.
Or would you prefer to get a shitty product because someone else decided that he doesn't make enought profit off your money?

>>691958993
rich people should not share. most of them actually work for thier shit.

>>691958993
Kill yourself you Marxist kike.

>>691967258
The goal of businesses is to make money. Ceos have an obligation to maximize profits for shareholders. why is this bad?
Governments SHOULD be enforcing anti-trust laws to prevent that sort of uncompetitive business, but not the companies fault if they are playing by the rules

>>691967566
Real LSD and magic mushrooms (psilocybin) too.

>>691967648
>most of them actually work for thier shit.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>691967134
Making everything "Free" would induce mass consumption.

There would be nothing left.

>>691966378
Nurses can't do shit without an actual doctor telling them to because when they try to have initiative, the patient ends up worse. There's a reason doctors get paid more, they know a fuck lot more than other healthcare "professionals"

>>691967648
>most of them actually work for thier shit.
Kek.
Keep dreaming.

>>691958993
Because you're a globalist Jew that needs some oven time.

>>691967643
No id prob try to start up a business to give consumers more choice, but thats because i can see opportunities.

>>691967258
well there's a lot of leaders of a lot of companies who think in a lot of different ways. if you became the leader of a company, you would be able to guide your company according to whatever principles you wanted.

>>691967728
yeah if I remember correctly, they add bromine to the LSD only to reduce/negate the hallucinations

>>691967591
Well said anon

Two kinds of people itt. The rich ones who love their money and the piss poor ones who want to love the rich ones money. Keep begging you niggers.

>>691967770
>most
Keyword statist

>>691958993
>Rich People SHould Share

Poor people should get off their asses and do something useful with their life, rather than begging other people to do it all for them

>>691958993
Because it's not my problem you flaming faggot. You want to fix the world?? Then go to Syria and hand out food you cuck!

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fix the world

>>691965688
HH dubs truth
Truth regardless of HH dubs

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>>691958993
We can just follow these simple 2 step directions.

>>691958993
Why haven't you killed yourself yet?

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>>691967331

So be it. If the Deus ex Machina deems it necessary to save the planet and the species. I dont think it would actually nuke us though, it would be way too smart and subtle for that. If it wanted a substantial part of the population dead it would simply make it so over the course of a few weeks. It would invent our demise in ways we cannot begin to imagine. We would be powerless against it.

Sometimes things have to die so other things can live.

>>691967685
>it's not bad because it's not illegal
All i'm saying is that competition is an important maybe THE most important part in a working economy, and yes, i think companies have a moral obligation to not sell out to their enemy.
Think of Adobe for instance: There was a company making a Flash-Programm. They only agreed to be bought because the people from Adobe promised to keep the project running. They stopped the project, payed a fine and the price for a license of adobe flash for private use is at about 10k.

>>691967857
Yeah, but I like LSD, I would just have one trip per month and would be fine too.

just look at /b/
if people actually think like this when theyre not in public, humanity is fucked

>>691968043
Just add the damned beggars there and you've got a deal.

>>691959294
That's true. Life on other planets would be pretty shitty after any novelty wears off

>>691958993
> why can't we fix the world.
A. Because too many people, when you fix for one group, you break for another.
B. There is nothing to fix, world is fine the way it is. The problem exists within the eye of the observer.
C. Entirety of history/future is a process, it's not pretty process but pretty is subjective and the world/universe don't care for pretty or right/wrong.

Take your pick.

if the rich shared we would have a communist society, which would be fine if it didn't completely fuck over the workforce. Have an completely equal society where everyone earned about the same amount of money regardless of occupation is good and all until people start realising that they are working hard for no reason. Example: whats the point in inventing a world changing product if you just going to get the same amount of money as everyone else? Why would you work hard in your school years to become a doctor if you are going to earn the same as a brick layer?

>>691966718
I'm wealthy and we drank powdered milk as a kid. Hardly born rich. I worked my ass off in the skilled trades and got a degree.
The only penny poor people will get from me is in the form of the already ridiculous taxes I pay.
Fuck that little bastard.

>>691967825
As mentioned above somewhere: The two biggest stores for consumer electronics in germany are actually one store, there's your chance. Oh wait life gets complicated when tackling gigantic companies.

>>691959473
You know what's greedy? Wanting something that belongs to another person but not wanting to spend the time and effort to work for it.

>>691965176
/thread

>>691958993
Because of faggots like you.

Yes they should and most do through charity. Forcing them through taxes is wrong

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>>691967591
What makes you feel so entitled Anon?

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>>691968700
Entitled to what, you shutting the fuck up? Bc you're a fucking moron, that's why.

>>691958993
I'd share my boot with that kid's ass.

>>691968497
Damn right!

>>691968428
And when im not in germany. So they are what just big box stores? They dont produce, they just sell right? Cool. What i would do is start a small electronics selling store, mainly just buying stuff from ebay, and either hiring a guy who can fix electronics or learn it myself. So we take these ebay electronics, refurbish them, and sell them for about 25% mark up from what i purchased them on ebay, than sell them in store or resell on ebay, while im not selling i pimp out my repair guy to do cheap in home fixes/installations, also when he isnt doing this we make some slap dash youtube repair videos to get a small amount of revenue/name recognition. See it isnt hard to make a business, people just dont want to.

>>691965716
yup and thats why i say "sports" not athletes

>>691966113
So what would you rather the system be like?

>hey you worked hard and gave up 15% of your life to prepare yourself with the knowledge to save people, where if you fuck up, people's lives are literally on your hands. But hey, you get paid the same as burger flipper at mcdonalds. Don't question your career path and go flip burgers instead mmkay?

You think that will work? Or do you think we'll just not have doctors anymore?

>>691958993
rich people do share. like bill gates alone has donated over 26 billion dollars USD.

>>691967098
Suck our cocks?

>>691959473
classic example of liberal stupidity right here folks.

>>691965716
Life is unfair and unjust.
You just have to learn to deal with it, faggot.

>>691959473
i work my ass off and i make enough money to drive a 2016 camaro. i have only a highschool education and moved out of my parents house at 18. i have no rich friends, i have little to no connections, i was homeless for over a year and i managed just fine. poor people are poor because they don't fucking try or because they're too stupid to realize that breeding is a bad idea when you can't afford kids. capitalism is a game where everyone competes, did you not think that there would be winners and losers? grow up, get a job.

>>691968603
Richfag here. I dont think its wrong that we pay a higher share in taxes. So long as its not over the top, like tax rates over 50% for higher brackets, i think its fine. We rich folks benefit from the government and the economy and the infrastructure arguably more than poor people do. Also, we can afford to pay a higher share of the bill and its better for society as a whole if those of us who can afford to pay, do pay a higher share.

That being said, I think capitalism like we have in the US is the best way to run an economy. But progressive taxes and benefits for the poor are things we can afford as a society and these make our society stronger.

>>691968927
>So they are what just big box stores? They dont produce, they just sell right?
yup
> What i would do is start a small electronics selling store, mainly just buying stuff from ebay, and either hiring a guy who can fix electronics or learn it myself.
Requires a building, preferrably bought, but rent would also work and not to shady looking in a good position, a bit of cash to buy shit and eat and pay. Oh yea, the customers will need some reason to even check out your store, so need some commercials aswell.
You could try if you had at least half a million bucks and a whole lot of luck.

>>691968142
We have to give it a goal.
All the intelligence aside, there is no logically proveable moral so we'd have to set a goal to achieve.
If we don't mess that up it wouldn't nuke us

>>691969505
>what is a business loan
>what is internet marketing
>what is starting in my apartment than moving on
>what is luck, when you make your own
Im sorry you have no drive, but capitialism isnt for the faint. So go on and cry to big daddy government, while the rest of us earn our keep

>>691958993
Fuck you and people like you. I pay almost half my fucking paycheck to stupid unemployed niggers who sit around all day having a shit ton of stupid nigger children that I work to feed. Get a fucking job, stop spending above your limits, ration yourself.
"boo hoo, that person makes more money than me, he needs to give me some! It isn't fair!" Fuck you. I shouldn't have to give 43% of my fucking paycheck to the gov't, just so you can sit on your lazy ass and bitch about the people who actually work.

Also, What kind of stupid fucking parent has their child hold up a sign like that? That kid has no idea what the fuck it means, and doesn't care about the fucking 'movement' his parents are trying to indoctrinate him into. Fuck all you poorfags. Jesus Christ.

>>691969752
You're imagining it all to be too easy, going too smoothly - but whatever, there's no point in arguing against your delusions. If it's so easy do it and get rriiiiiich.

>>691969888
check 'em. but yeah,i agree. if i made my gross wages instead of my net wages, i would be driving around in a fucking 2017 z06 vette. fuck taxes, fuck the government for stealing my money. fuck niggers for not working for money.

>>691967292
Not really,everything will be automated. Humans will consume,producers will make. Humans will start to discover their own kind for the first time.
>>691967756
Controlled consumption and more production actually. Do you know statistically how much the west wastes food in food fights and wastage? Enough to feed the hungry world over. Controlled consumption will solve that.
> The problem is richer humans feel entitled and scared the lower class will experience enlightenment. Humans will never learn to balance.
>The more you take the more you need to put back.

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>>691970050
>the feel when you own a construction company.

>>691969888
>What kind of stupid fucking parent has their child hold up a sign like that?
the "muh chilluns" argument is popular amongst unlogical retards

>>691970050
I have been dummy lol. Of course it doesnt go smoothly, hence my capitialism isnt for the faint remark. Im sorry you have the mentality of a worker, and not owner. I have no delusions when i witness my business growing first hand.

>>691970265
i agree, but i have to tell you that unlogical isn't a word. illogical is what you meant. REEEEEE muh OCD.

>>691969415
lies

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>>691970260
I'm a doctor in economics, physics and meth btw.

>>691969454
this richfag gets its.

>>691958993
Becuase I dont give af about some shit ass poor kid.

>>691969888
There will never be enough job for everyone.
Moreso with the advance of technology and the automation of so many tasks.
Companies are making profit on this by pressuring salaries to the low "you don't want to work for a slave wage ? Step aside there is X millions unemployed that will take the spot"
And they pressure more and more the low paycheck by moving population from the poor countries to the western ones.
But good for you for liking to be a slave.

>>691958993
WHY SHOULD I SHARE WITH YOU, YOU LITTLE SHIT?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>691970577
Looks like someone is upset that they dont have skills to compete

>>691969888
stay mad bro

>>691958993
because some people want shit they cant have like people who dont do shit and expect to get free money

>>691969888
A person making $50,000 a year pays 10 cents a day in taxes for food stamps. Stop complaining you cheap nigger.

>>691970360
he spells a word incorrectly and you apologize for an imagined mental disorder just to point it out. fucking faggot

>>691959477
Yes there is. They want their children's children's children's children's children's children to be taken care of. Therefore, they need 5 billion dollars.

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>>691969607

Exactly. It would have to be fundemantally coded with the will and the desire to improve the lives of all humans. This is basic stuff, but have to watch out for the pitfalls. If, for example, we gave it instructions to make all humans happy, we would be likely to end up as brains in jars being stimulated electrically to be happy.

>>691958993
Why don't these communist liberals go after the rich politicians?

>>691971045
This is the only sin mankind will suffer.

>>691970849
I dont like being forced to pay for my local zoo's animal food.

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>>691959473
Stay salty poorfag. Nobody is giving you anything.

>>691971135
Right? If they are so upset, why havent we seen a revolution? Apparently it doesnt bother them much because most of the modern day socialists are middle class.

>>691970395
well, i work at a road milling company and we do contracts for state, which has a very minimum of like 40 an hour, 10 hours days 5 days a week minimum. i usually work around 80-90 hours a week though. but we're not always on contract, so at least half the year i ,make 18 an hour as in shop mechanic. i got my camaro for 22,500, which is like 3 grand less than msrp. my monthly payment comes out to 966 dollars a month because im paying it off in two years at a 3% financing rate. my weekly pay is never exactly the same every week but i make anywhere from 900 a week all the way up to around 2,600. 4,000 was the most i've ever made in a paycheck. rent is 500 bucks, insurance is 379, phone is 80 and internet is 90. i don't have cable because who needs it anymore? so owning that camaro is pretty easy.

>>691970682
Not really, i work in IT so i have the "skills" to survive this generation.
But we have to face the fact that we will never have enough jobs for everyone.
Companies and ceo are making more and more profit while people are getting less and less. The gap beetween richs and poors is only increasing and it's not by magically asking for people to "get a job" that somewhat they will find a job.

>>691971175
Then you don't deserve to live in a first world country. Go move to Zimbabwe.

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>>691971045
>implying we aren't brains in jars already

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For some reason, only fucking morons are allowed to be in control.

>>691970878
true say.

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>>691971174

I'm pretty sure a lot of people would gladly take the soma, but I dont think I would. I need to see it you know? I'm the kind of guy who runs towards the tornado because someone has to document it damnit!

>>691971372
>You dont deserve this
>You dont deserve that
>boo hoo I hate democracy

The rich worked for their money
/thread

Being an egoistical asshole will yield greater short term reward. I like to think it doesn't work out well over long periods of time, but most people don't think that far ahead.

>>691971581
> what is inheritance

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>>691971412

What are you saying bro? Simulation theory?

>>691971581
>inherit 6 gorillion shekels
>earned it

>>691971725
Yes.
What would be bad about being put into a fake reality though

>>691971581
And the guy who works his ass of in a factory for minimum wage from dawn to dusk then get unemployed because greedy ceo moved the factory to china isn't working enough for his money.

If you think people like Paris Hilton worked for his money more then you might be this kind of retard capitalism loves

>>691971803
gathered knowledge would be false, possibly completely useless in the real world, and for people who take pride in learning stuff this would be the worst possible outcome

>>691971747
would you not leave money to your children if you earned it? oh wait, of course you wouldn't, you're a nigger. niggers don't leave their children anything, they just leave their children.

>>691971348
Ok, so instead of incentivising people to get this skills, we should what? Just give money to them? There will always be jobs to do, and when there isnt than we can talk about communism. But we are hundreds of years away from that

>>691971942
Eh, call it a closed system with a subset of laws that only work there.
Move on to reality and its laws

>>691971964
But you can become rich by inheriting.
So the statement that rich people worked for it isn't always true

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>>691971803

Simulation theory is compelling for anumber of reason.

1) the logic is very sound.
2) we would probably not be able to tell the difference.
3) Fermi's Paradox solved.

I'm not so sure though. We need some kind of physical evidence or its just like string theory, fanciful maths with no real evidence. A time waster.

That kid does not understand that rich people do share, they are taxed the fuck out off to pay for your food stamps and assistance, quit bitching.

Food Stamps: $36/yr
Corporate subsidies: $6000/yr, $1,231 of it goes to making up for revenue losses from corporate tax havens.

Keep doing the conservative thing and blame welfare for your high taxes.

>>691971803
The brain in jars thing isn't even a simulated reality, but chemically induced pleasure.

>>691971494
Yes so logically humans like you will still remain. Your pursuits will remain. A certain amount of DNA always makes us want to be different. Everything will be automated,some will sin some will progress. But the progression will be with enlightenment. How do you blame the paki detonator who is not mentally enlightened. In a court of law a mentally challenged gets a relaxed sentence.

>>691971967
> there will always be jobs
But will there be enough for every human to earn a living? I doubt it.

>>691972102
>fanciful maths with no real evidence. A time waster
fancy math sometimes preveniences great inventions though

>>691964428
Yeah I had an ex-girlfriend who had those. Fucked her up so much. Don't know how they are now but I know she is doing alright for herself.

>>691972273
Thats why they use cheap parts so you have to buy more often desu

>>691972146
The 1% pays less in taxes percentage wise then 45 million Americans.

>>691965275
They also give donations all the time. Sure donations relieve taxes but still, you're giving money directly to a charity instead of giving it to the government to spend on $1000 dollar toilet seats and a shit ton of people to sit around on a base all day jacking off.

>>691972465
What a great system.
I'm just waiting for the moment where countries start banning technology, so their workforce doesn't become obsolete.

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>>691972228

I don't blame anyone for anything to be honest. Our past is too fucked up; our future too dark.
We think too much and feel too little.

If we are simulated beings then so be it, it honestly wont make any difference for you the observer. It's just an unsettling idea. Like I said, fancy maths.

>>691972273
Sure. Just up the minimum wage a bit. There is always manual work. Lawn care, pool care, cooking, cleaning, etc. Go right now and look at indeed.com for job listings in your area, bet your there are hundreds if not thousands of jobs

>>691972584
Riiiiight, "donations". That's called tax free money.

>>691967134
What would drive people to actually work then? If what you're saying is true, we'd end up in a society that would crumble in the first generation thanks to no work ethic.

>>691958993
tax, lol, fuck you Europe, we are outa here.

>>691972273
Ask yourself what is a job and why people get payed for it.
A job is an activity other people don't want to do or can't do which they are willing to pay for - therefore do something else instead. Certain jobs will grow proportionally with the population, most will not because of limiting factors. (You can't be a farmer or miner if you live in a city.) This is the point where you'll have to get creative in order to get employed - this is why we have artists and people who lecture about male privilidge at universities. Everyone who's not strictly working to put food on the table or a roof over your head. Some can adapt, some can't. Humanity just doesn't give a fuck if a hobo dies in the street.

>>691971967
There is not enough job for everyone stop thinking otherwise.
All the minimum wage works can be done by machine/moved to china/third world countries.
If everyone is more qualified, it become the same, wages are pressured since there is more people that can do the job, then there is more people able to do the job than jobs available.
I live in Europe where nearly 50% of my wage is taken from me. And I don't give a shit, I still make enough to live as i want and i know that if one day i get fucked i can rely on the govt.

This generation is fucked, we have enough to share but greedy mofos can't stop increasing the gap beetween rich and poor.

When the working class stops listening to right wing media then there will be change for the better. No more Daily Mail, No more Sun.

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>>691972685
>.gif
only big fucking parts of the skyscraper that collapsed next to it

>>691972102
You know, it took nearly 50 years of fanciful math to prove that if you integrate E•dA, it equals the charge of an object/epsilon of zero. Finally a dude named Gauss solved the problem.

when Gauss was trying to solve this, Coulomb said it was a time waster too.

>>691972700
> automatic lawn mower
> automatic pool cleaner
> automatic vacuum cleaner
> automated cooking via smart oven

Have you considered how many people will lose their jobs once automated driving becomes usable?
Don't you think that as we progress we'll outsource every annoying work to robots? Because that seems to be what humans do, invent stuff so they can be lazy.

Also,
> minimum wage
> provides for decent living
Not always

>>691972929
We're already using AIs to make movies, stories and music. What kind of job do you mean? Programmers are also being replaced by ai

>>691973007
>stop your line of thinking because it is correct and fucks up my narrative
There are jobs, and in europe the menial pays well. I dont understand how you can claim there isnt work when there is. We arent fucked, because even if this elite is widening the gap it will rubberband eventually. You cant pay people less and less, while upping the price of goods. It isnt sustainable, quit thinking it can.

>>691973289
And once all this automation happens then we can talk about communism. Capitialism is building this world, and communism will rule it. But if we implement communism too early, it will fail.

>>691972774
Wht would we work? Everything is free. Humans will pursue living. Working will mean learning. We will only progess

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>>691973223

That's a bit beyond my capabilities. I remember the guy who solved Fermat's last theorem though, but to what end exactly? Other then his own personal gains I mean. What exactly do we as a species stand to gain from Gauss' work?

>>691972929
More and more the jobs you speaks of are automated.
What are people supposed to do ?
Learn more skills ?
Then the jobs with more skills will get paid less.
Same shit goes on and on.
THERE
IS
NOT
ENOUGH
JOBS
But there is enough money for everyone to live decently.

>>691972685
>We think too much and feel too little.
Cringe thread?

>>691958993
And what will he contribute? Fucking bums and niggers will always want something for nothing.

Everyone in this thread is neglecting the fact that 80% of the worlds population is living in extreme poverty ($10 or less a day).

To me, that's pathetic. When even in the US we have cities that look like they should be in a fucking third-world country.

We can't fix the world because it's an extremely complex issue that can't be solved by any single solution. The people in charge don't want it to change either.

We don't even know what would happen if you distributed enough wealth across the planet so everyone had decent quality of life - and some people think that it's a bad idea.

The people who complain about 'get a job' and 'people are too lazy to work' etc. have not done their research on economics, they feel threatened by giving less fortunate people who don't work the means they need to live reasonably well by our standards.

>>691973289
>What kind of job do you mean?
Pretty much everything that requires creativity. (Art, engineering, design.) In the end 1000 humans working on a project are still cheaper then a super computer.
>Programmers are also being replaced by ai
It's called optimisation and it can't make up logic, it can just write the same code in different ways or try a random approach. (Am i wrong?)

>>691973556
So instead of thinking about the future that is more or less sure to come, we'll just close our eyes and hope things go smoothly once we hit that threshold?
Why can't we work towards it now?

>>691973608
>>691973223
E=MC/you're both faggots.

>>691973760
Because it will fail. Look at this thread, no one is ready. You need to ease them into

>>691973634
>Learn more skills ?
>Then the jobs with more skills will get paid less.
I'll be the cunt making you jobless, no an engineering degree doesn't mean i get to earn less.

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>>691973839

Fuck you faggot. Relativity has mountains of hard evidence backing it. Simulation theory and string theory only exists on a blackboard. It is applicable to nothing. It's only predictions have failed beyond measure.

>>691973741
The supercomputer of today is the PC of tomorrow. Also, cluster and cloud calculation.
Why should I pay actors or musicians millions if my PC can come up with original uncopyrighted stuff?
> programming
I'm not entirely sure, but I assume that it will get far more sophisticated in the future.
Plus, once the optimization is so good, that we can basically use natural language to program, we're there more or less.

>>691958993
I've been talking about this all morning with my sister, the world is fucked and I'm about to step out until the revolution, if there will ever be one. The whole world has been upside down since Reagan fucked the pooch. Before then taxes were common to all people around 80% even the rich

>>691973860
Well yeah, that's what I'm saying. We shouldstart slowly now, so that in 50 to 100 years when the problem becomes serious, we won't be completely unprepared.

>>691973591
That's a chunk of stanky ass bait of I ever saw one. Good luck in your star trek utopia, which btw only existed because they had the capability to turn raw energy into matter, and energy was around in vastly greater quantities than we're capable of producing today.

>>691958993
>why cant we fix the world?
As long as there are human beings, it cant be fixed.
Because different human beings have different ideals, goals, and moral limits they are prepared to act according to.

>>691958993
because poor people keep reproducing

>>691958993
Too many wogs.

>>691974149
Which is what is happening, the more automation that slowly comes out brings more light onto the situation. Let us enjoy capitialism while we can, than in a couple hundred years when automation is everywhere than we can enjoy communism where people arent exploited

>>691974390

>because dumb people keep reproducing and societal development allows them to consume more and more

ftfy

>>691967098
how einstein helped? he was a fucking jew that helped the fucking usa

>>691974192
It won't happen in our lifetime,sadly.

>>691974516
So basically we shouldn't rush towards a more equal world, since you enjoy capitalism?

>2016
>people still thinking they are valuable assets to their jew masters and not another easily replacable cow
>people still thinking that there isn't enough for everyone
>people still thinking that the rich need(ed) to work hard

TOP
KEK
Continue feeding capitalism, it has done so much good for everyone this past decades

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>>691974516

This will never be achieved in a world with seven billion people. Powerdown or singularity, there is no "happy growing until we suddenly become trees" bullshit allowed in the real world.

>>691974046
>once the optimization is so good, that we can basically use natural language to program
Note that people from 30 years ago thought they hit the end of everything you could possibly ever need in a computer. Today we know people found ways to justify better machines - starting from shit like graphical interfaces to games and animated movies up to online streams.
There are still problems to be solved (i remember there was some internetsite for this lol) and i am truely happy for this. You just have to be brave enought to attempt to tackle the biggest problem you could possibly get into and keep working on it till you die. Possibly you will be remembered by some cunt that studies historic patriarchy in the 20th century in 2600.

>>691958993
>>691958993
Cause its a little extreme to just get in there kicking that poor kid in the face, removing all his teeth one by one, along with all the flesh from his face, before finally telling him, say leftism is the worst cancer ever 666 times without taking a pause or Ill do the same to all your family in fact everyone who even talked to you ever before.

Stop being a sicko motherfucker, Op, The cause needs temperance and patience

>>691974708
No? We shouldnt rush because it will make mistakes and not stick, im sorry your idea of an equal society is clouding your vision, but unless everything is in place it will fail. Weve seen shoddy communism how many times?

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>>691974873

Truth.

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>>691958993
Hello little guy, how may i help you?

>>691958993
There is an infinite amount of realities better than this one and there is an infinite amount of realities worst than this one. That is, of course baring in mind your perspective of a better reality.

Murphy's Law

>>691973608
Electric field theory and electrostatics were a result. Gauss equated theoretical equations to proven equations.

>>691974645
Then why try to force ideals from that sort of existence on us? You have have to have incentive to do a job. That incentive is money and health care. If everything was free, there would be no incentive to work, thus there will be no production as everyone would be lazy as fuck until we run out of food the first year or so. Then it would be pure anarchy.

>>691958993
if i worked hard for my fortune, do you expect me to just hand over a chunk of that hard earned cash to some nigger on the street who can't even be bothered to hold down a job due to him trying to be a "gangsta"? Fuck no. Equality =/= Justice.
That would encourage the lazy and poor to keep being lazy since they will profit off the hardworking middle to upper class. Fuck that shit. Opportunities should be equal, not this equal society bullshit.

>>691974873
So, we shouldn't do anything until everything is done? Seems contradictory, do you assume the switch from capitalism to communism will happen in 24 hours? Or are we doomed to spent another century with capitalism until all communism kinks are worked out?
Never mind that capitalism seems to work equally shitty for the average person.
Especially if we just let the rich get richer for the next centuries.

>>691974844
>>691974046
This isn't this site i had in mind, but you might understand why i do what i do. I wanna fix a problem, even if that means finding more complicated problems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_unsolved_problems

>>691974192
Enlightenment should be forced. Give everyone everything free,tell them the revelations ain't happening. The worshippers will stop worshipping. We will achieve global enlightenment. Humanity will progress as one. This is the only way

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>>691975223

Alright. I wont pretend to understand any of this, but I simply hope that it will aid in the progress towards the singularity that may save us from ourselves.

>>691975392
>>691974844
Oh sure there will always be question, but chances are, unless you're extremely intelligent a computer will out do you. Even if its just an approximation.

>>691958993
I was thinking of a gofundme to create a real life A-Team of ex-military to bust up rebel militia in shit countries.
Put video footage of events online/pay per view to recoup some $$.
Could get supplies to those in need and kick some ass on the way.
Would totally work.

>>691975374
Listen, communism can only be achieved once everything is automated, otherwise there will be unequality. Im not thinking this will happen overnight, but each time a job becomes automated this is another step, another nudge towards communism. If we implement it now, where is the incentive to automate jobs that havent been automated. In the capitialist system automating jobs is incentivised and encouraged. So just chill, equality will happen to humans, we just might not see it. And dont say we are doomed to capitialism

>>691973839
I bet you thought that was pretty fucking witty huh, you underage faggot?

>>691958993
Liberals

>>691975648
>unless you're extremely intelligent a computer will out do you
result = brain * effort * time
There are some people who are too stupid to do higher education stuff but the large majorety is just too lazy / afraid / poor to try.

>>691958993
Basically this kid is saying somebody who has more than him is forced to give him stuff yea go kys

>>691975770
I think we're on the same page but differ on the amount of time needed.
Also, I see no reason why we can't move towards it already. I'm not saying become communist now. But try to reduce inequality and even out opportunities now, because I fear it will take long enough to change current structures.
Also, the longer we wait the more rigid they'll become.

>>691958993
read about communism and do as much as you can to make it happen faster :)

>>691975914
I'm pretty sure the average computer can calculate better than the average human.
I get that were still important for the theoretical part and coming up with the structure.
But unless you're one of the top mathematicians in the world, working on one of the centuries problems, any computer would be more efficient that a person.
Maybe in the future we'll all be scientist.

NIGGERS

>>691966378
Because nurses can't cure people dipshit. Only doctors can.

>>691976157
Doubtful. The longer the wait, the more desire for equality will happen. Werent you the guy stating that ceos and businesses are driving down wages with competition? That is a good thing, this will funnel more people towards communism. Also, start giving you own money to the poor and share your apartment, start implementing the practices within your own life and show people around you that is a good thing.