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On second thought post rule 34

>>691447431
A really fucking dank meme

why the fuck would you volunteer sending hundreds of millions to the rest of the EU when there's no chance they'll send any money back

So he promised you healthy teeth...

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Caribean fag here just woke up can someone please explain?

ITT: Retarded brits

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>>691447431
>mfw

>>691447431
I'm just loving all this drama. There could be another 9/11 and I'd just sit back with my popcorn and enjoy the show. Idk wtf is wrong with me tbh.

the real meme is the collapse of the British economy. nothing is going to happen

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apology for poor english

when were you when UK dies?

i was sat at home drinking cup of tea when david ring

‘UK is kill’

‘no’

>>691448153
edgy.

>>691447431
The UK is a country in which the chest beating of patriotic demagogues has surpassed reasoned argument of experts.

It has finally descended into America.

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>>691448396

>>691447962
>no chance they'll send money back
>literally sends 500 million pounds (shekels now) to shitholes like wales every year
>even after bills are paid and added EU benefits are given despite UK having special snowflake status in EU Brits want more for their stingy wrinkley lard asses

>>691447431
Donald Trump anyone....

I voted remain, moron cunt idiots fuckers voted leave. I want out of this piece of shit country!

>>691448042
You're implying you've been asleep since the referendum began 2 days ago?

>>691447431
It's certainly scary. I think democracy needs an overhaul. It just doesn't coexist with modern society. When democracy was invented, nobody realised there'd be shit like the Internet, or biased as fuck media outlets. I actually feel really bad for the Brits. Best of luck mates.

>>691448396
>has surpassed reasoned argument of experts
kek

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>>691448481
Kill yourself faggot.

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>>691448518
Yes

>>691448486
If London doesn't become independent I'm moving to Scotland

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>>691448519
>It's certainly scary. I think democracy needs an overhaul. It just doesn't coexist with modern society. When democracy was invented, nobody realised there'd be shit like the Internet, or biased as fuck media outlets. I actually feel really bad for the Brits. Best of luck mates.


All the media and internet and propaganda was against the Brexit you stupid nigger faggot.

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>>691448625
There is so much you need to learn

Welcome to the future mon

>>691448519
Democracy is as good as people are responsible for their behaviour. If everybody is HURR DURR, I want to treat others like shit but I don't wanna get treated like that, I'm special....... The system dies.

>>691448669
Bullshit. English newspapers were salavating over this.

>>691448579
I don't really see why it wasn't?

Basically every business, university, and financial expert recommended we stay in based on their predictions, logic, and reason.

The UK economy is now fucked. A large portion of businesses are going to leave, and everyone who voted this way will be dead soon.

>>691448669
All the media and internet was reporting what the experts were saying (such as economists, FTSE 100 workers, wtc) and they happened to be saying that Brexit would be shit.

Also, helps that the Prime Minister was against Brexit as well. But old farts don't go on the internet much, and don't make their opinion based on facts, they make their opinion on what they see around them.

>>691447962
You mean 1% of your total taxes

and the reason GB made billions because they didn't have to pay customs duty for trade inside the eu

you don't seem to understand how economy works

gb is fucked now, the downfall begins

I am sitting here just watching and chilling

>>691448279
Kek, I didn't see that for a while.

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>>691448396
>Does not understand how abusive relationships work

>>691448824
>newspapers

A fucking newspaper gets as much attention as Imgur Reddit Youtube 4chan shills Twitter Instagram ect.....
Nigger you are retarded
They did everything they could to make it fail and they lost
kill yourself faggot.

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>>691448396
Literally every argument I saw from the Remain camp was either blatant fear mongering or appeals to emotion or a desire to "not be racist". As if wanting control over your own borders, economic policies and future instead of having it determined for you by a group of unelected, unaccountable politicians is racist.

Oh and another issue is no taxation without representation. I seem to remember that being an issue for some small country at some time in history. Can't remember it's name, though.

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>>691447431
>I voted Leave but didnt really mean it
>lets do another vote til Stay wins

>>691448839
I agree with you anon, I was kekking at the way you put it

I voted remain. My country is fucking retarded. Literally every expert in the field of economics was against it, but ol' Jill and her fucking farmer husband voted against it because they like the English flag

fucking mugs. Pisses me off how these people can actually vote.

>>691447962
This has already been proven to be false tho.

>>691449034
Anon it's a viable strategy. Most leave voters were old, so we keep doing referendums until they die off and there are only young remain voters left.

Simples, eek.

>>691448279
Should be Nigel

>>691448880
>and don't make their opinion based on facts, they make their opinion on what they see around them.

Implying what you see around you is not reality..... nigger...really?

>what the experts were saying
>experts

Kill yourself.

Honestly this entire post... kill yourself you literally have no hope that the British can sustain their own god dam country.

>>691448486
Then go back to sandistan Ahmed.

>>691448153
Enjoying the summer?

>>691449109
>Anon it's a viable strategy. Most leave voters were old, so we keep doing referendums until they die off and there are only young remain voters left.
>Simples, eek.

Nigger most of 4chan is underagedB8 or younglings

I'm fucking 19 and I fucking love Brexit
Brits did good.

>>691449038
when you eventually grow up you will understand how dumb you really were

>>691448279
>>691449131

apology for poor english

when were you when EU dies?

i was sat at home drinking cup of tea when nigel ring

‘eu is kill’

‘no’

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Warning!
There are too many Liberals against democracy wanting a new voting despite the majority wanting to stay! They do not want democracy!
Libtards on suicide watch

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>>691448396
>the UK is a country

>>691449147
>Implying what you see around you is not reality..... nigger...really?

Fucking farmer jack in his farm in Northumbria is not going to know the reality of what it's like to live in London surrounded by muslims. I do, and I still voted remain because I don't give a shit about the memes. We are a split country, my surroundings are different enough to theirs so much so that things I see on a day to day basis scare these people so much they decide to make permanent damage to this country.

And no, considering the EU made up over 50% of our trade, I don't think we can sustain our own country.

>>691448643
lol nigger a capital city cant claim independence but it would be funny to see the muslim occupiers try it

>>691449277
B..but anon I am a special snowflake !!!
I am self aware unlike all these god dam people that where born before me!!!

>>691448519

>I think democracy needs an overhaul. It just doesn't coexist with modern society.

wait.... you got a problem with democracy because people aren't voting right?? you're a special kind of retard.

as for propaganda, there's no better example than the media when they use fear to manipulate people to remain. even nigger obama flew to there to sway the sheeps to stay.

>>691447431

You got Trumped.

Nihilism stops being funny when you realise your shit is going to get just as fucked up as the people you wanted to hurt.

>>691449026
The arguments of the remain camp had to sink to the level of the general public. Initially they tried to use elementary mathematics to explain the benefits, but most Brits find that too hard.

And the UK was perfectly represented at EU level. We just did not always get our way - but we did 90% of the time, and for me that is a reasonable sacrifice to make compared to financial obliteration and the entire UK splitting up.

>>691447431
Hahahahaha retard

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>>691449308
Ayyyyyyyyyyy

>>691448890
Britain existed and thrived for centuries without the EU, I think they'll be fine without it. They've already fought wars for independence from the dirty continentals, they'll do it again.

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>>691449293
Much better, kek

>>691449277
I'm 37. I've grown up, seen the damage splitting the lowest members of society can do through nationalism.

The elites want the poorest people to turn against each other so they are easier to control. The British Empire used it in India to turn religious groups against each other; divide and rule. This referendum is a modern, and lesser extent of that. Rich pricks like Boris Johnson have turned us against each other.

I don't understand why anyone would want to stay. You retards know you can make trade deals without paying billions of dollars and having an overlord restrict your country's liberty right?

>>691449446
The only argument from the Remain camp that made any sense was "the markets will take a dip". What other arguments did they have besides "Not wanting your poor to be dicked over by uncontrolled immigration is racist" or "the EU loves Britain, please look at this kissing chain"?

Can you point me to a good reason to stay in the EU?

>>691448995
Media tabloids like newspaper are he biggest influence though because they appeal to the highest common denominator, older voters. They're what's important. They tend to be much more conservative and are easily to sway with fear monger tactics. Young people account for fuck all because they don't take shit like this seriously.

>>691449026
>Literally every argument I saw from the Remain camp was either blatant fear mongering

Nope. That was just how the Brexit side chose to portray it. In most cases it was correct, as we're about to find out...

>>691449527
mass immigration is divide and conquer. you blame nationalism for war when it is nationalism that defends a nation from imperialism and globalist invasions. every war in europe has been fought against megalomaniacs who wanted to unite and rule it all against the will of the people

>>691448839

this moron clearly drank deeply from the kool aid.

you have no fucking clue how the economy work if you think clawing back your own sovereignty will doom the country. its been thru worst. it will get better. this is net positive

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>>691449777
>are easily to sway with fear monger tactics

What the fuck are you 12 kek

I'm done just kill yourself.

>>691447431
You retards thought your protest vote wouldnt matter...but it did you must be glad you listened to /pol/ now, eh? You wont be making that mistake again...

>>691449378
>2 years to determine new trade deals
>NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE COUNTRY IS FUCKED FOREVER
>Please ignore that the UK has existed and thrived for centuries without the EU

>>691449405
It's not that people aren't voting right, it's that people don't know what they're voting for. That's where democracy fails. People are idiots and too easily persuaded to vote for even bigger idiots. Look at America, their two presidential candidates are the two most unpopular of all time because people are retards that allowed them to get that far.

>>691449742

Britain will still want access to the European market. Getting that access cheaply will still require them to open their borders.
You can't get access to the single market without relaxing border/immigration controls. Bexiters really did not at all think this through. If Brexiters think England will be better off with tariffs and trade restrictions they've got another thing coming.

>>691449902
Oh, that's right it's summer. Cool bro. Have fun being an internet troll.

>>691449527
Yet it was the poor drop-outs that voted leave. Interesting.

Of course, it's those unskilled labourers, the blue-collar engine of conservatism that are hurt the most by globalisation. Any African or Chinaman can do your job when all you do is count widgets, and he can do it cheaper from his tin-roofed shack.

People are suckers, the wealthy haven't been having any trouble dissolving the middle class and taking all that money because we're all suckers. Left and Right, we're suckers and we never do shit about this endless cycle until shit gets violent.

>>691449742

OK just the basic economic arguments:

The majority of businesses in the UK - of which there are many - are here because this gives them access to the EU, and because of our labour laws.

Now they have no real reason to be here and would be better setting up in Poland where it is cheaper.

Moreover, a massive proportion of HQs are in London for similar reason.

So we've singlehandedly fucked over our manufacturing industry, and our financial industries.

Also, science and major scientific projects - think cern - are run by, and paid for by the EU.

The UK has made a massive mistake and after my contract expires I will likely be moving elsewhere as a skilled migrant - and I will imagine many like me will follow my footsteps.

>>691448890

watch the french and italian leave next

>>691449792
Like what, anon? What were the arguments you can point me to?

I thought I read that UK didnt really take any syrian refugees anyway...all their immigrants are poles and Indians, right? Not likely to change much with leaving the EU, right?

>>691449890

I am not an economist. I am a scientist. I do, however, trust experts. And not the raving rants of the disgruntled lower classes who want "MUH COUNTRY" back.

>>691448652
the hell is Poland doing with all that money ?

>>691450146
France here. This is not happening. Half our country is laughing at you, the rest is in state of shock.

>>691447431
I voted for it because I want the equivalent of a Trump to come in. These bloody arabs need to go or it won't be England anymore. The EU masters want us all integrated and I am firmly convinced that is the end of England.

>>691450040
That's right. Because all of the US trade deals came with relaxed borders right?

You fucking idiot. That is not at all a necessity.

>>691447431
it turned into a bunch of retards who enjoy voting for things they do not understand and cannot be bothered to be educated on the subject.

>>691449956

if they didn't vote right, then obviously they're idiots

Britfags Googling Emigration to Australia went up by 200% in the last 24 hours

Your country lasted 300 years before it killed itself kek

>>691449446
90% of the time we got our way.....
>logic and mathematics
>>reason
Oh you really need to know what the fuck you're talking about if you're going to take the 'I'm the intellectual here' argument

>>691450132
>The majority of businesses in the UK - of which there are many - are here because this gives them access to the EU

Lol, what? How old are you 12?

>scotland in favor of remain
>shown as proof for how different scotland is
>turns out dumb millenials were allowed to vote in scotland but nowhere else
kek what a coincidence

>>691448042
You've been asleep for two days? And you can't even properly spell your own location? Fuck off

>>691447431
people who meme should lose the right to vote tbh

>>691450132
>after my contract expires I will likely be moving elsewhere as a skilled migrant

OH NOOOOOOOOO

fuck off then, see if you can get higher pay than in the UK

>>691450286
They're a bunch of socialist pricks, that's why they have the money.

this >>691450375
pretty much my reason too

>>691447962
the sun reader detected

>>691450258

Conservatism is a movement of the heart, not the head. That's why rhetoric is so effective, and Johnson's lies were so well received.

That was all united with a fear of brown people and a migration crisis in the UK that simply doesn't exist.

Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage offered those lower classes one thing they want, they promised to hate the same people that the lower classes hate. That was enough to do the trick.

The UK has been Trumped and will now be England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland.

>>691449742
I'm gonna laugh when all the stupid inbred northern fucks like you realise they can't go on holiday in spain anymore without a visa and have to go on the Bradford paki safari instead

>>691450406
You must be actually stupid. EU trade deals specify relaxation of borders. US trade deals ARE WHOLLY DIFFERENT FROM EU TRADE DEALS.

>>691450040
It won't require them to open their borders at all, all it will require are new trade deals. Trade and immigration are two different issues, you absolute retard.

>>691450132
Science projects are already funded by the largest nations in the EU and if you haven't noticed the entire EU has been sinking for the past 5 years. Since 2012 the Euro has lost half it's value against the US dollar. Why do you keep pretending that the EU is the answer when it's literally a sinking ship? If the businesses were better run from Poland why weren't they run from Poland before?

You keep saying that the UK is going to lose everything when in reality new trade deals can be drawn up. It's not an impossible task.

>>691450486

To my understanding, yes. Please do show me the statistics to the contrary - no Daily Mail articles allowed.

>>691448396
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Voted UKIP in the GE hoping the government would stop fucking around and give us the referendum.

Voted Leave.

>tfw it goes your way

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>>691450632
Kek
If you want a movement of the heart, try communism / socialism.

>>691449026

- Research funding. Goodbye to the massive EU funds for science. Good luck leading R&D, even more when it will be more difficult to promote exchange in universities.

- Good luck competing with the US, China, Russia and India in trade agreements and political influence. The EU has some chance to be a powerful global actor. UK alone has not.

- Also, good luck with losing all the EU regulations, done mainly for consumers. Who does not want companies and business screwing you over?

See? No racism or fearmongering. These are all realities.

Also, EU does not tax anybody. And you have representation: it's called European Parliament and European Council, in which representatives of your government are present.

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>>691450632
>migration crisis in the UK that simply doesn't exist.

>>691450146
Lol no

>>691448839
Absolute bullshit.
Big company's in the uk are worth more today than before the brexit due to foreign investors taking advantage of a weak pound..dimwit

>>691450466
Australia is full of gooks and Muslims anyway

>>691450488
Ad hominem is easy.

>>691448519
I agree, society and technology made a lot of progress in the last century. Maybe the current system is somewhat deprecated.

>>691450286
Building roads that no one uses. I'm not joking I have been on one of them.

>>691447748

Literally the opposite of reality, m8.

I can imagine how difficult it is for you millennials to look back even 30 years and see what England was, and now is.

The EU totally fucked the UK.

The UK will be just fine. It's already being aproached by the USA, Canada and yes even Germany wanting trade agreements with us. When scotland sees that we are going to be ok they will want to remain in the UK. Also now the EU will anounce their euro army plan which will require 18 to 25 year olds to serve they will be breathing a sigh of relief and thanking the older generations from saving them from servitude.

>>691448652
and it's going to places that need them in the EU so they can elevate their economies, basically it's better in the long run. the EU is the only reason the UK today even has an export market to eastern europe for example.

>>691450643
How fucking retarded can you be? That's the fucking point you idiot. Open borders are not a necessity in trade deals.

Now that the UK has told the EU to fuck off they can make trade deals that are just as beneficial that don't leave them paying billions and with a restriction on their sovereignty.

>>691450720
>communism / socialism

Socialism is to communism what a handjob is to mature japanese transgender midget scat porn

>>691448669

Most UK newspapers (specially the ones with more audience) advocated for leave, you dumbfuck.

>>691448824
>newspapers
you mean those rags called the daily mail and the sun?

Watch the French stop doing passport control at Calais. Watch those squatter camps move to dover. They're all clawing to get to the UK - fuck it, they are welcome.

Me, born in london, but mother Irish, born in Ireland. Talk about lucky.

>>691450087

people voting for their own self interest makes them rational, not poor dumb idiots. it's how democracy is supposed to work.

buying the media propaganda and being afraid of the apocalypse because the EU will essentially impose some form of sanctions to destroy the UK economy is some dumb fear mongering horse shit

>>691449890
How will this get better? Please, tell me the economic advantages of leaving the eurozone.

>>691450873
Democracy was flawed when it was invented.

>>691450304
and an other half is not giving any fuck

>>691450634
>Oh no, I'll have to tell customs in Spain why I'm in the country
>Almost like literally everywhere else in the world
>What will I do if I have to tell border control that I'm going to be in the country for 2 weeks
>It'll be so hard to do )))))))))):

>>691450643
SO THE UK TRADE DEALS WILL NOT HAVE RELAXED BORDERS

YOU IDIOT

>>691450866
Such a blatantly moronic statement requires no rebuttal.

>>691450857
14% is full of?

>>691450694

Trade deals take a seriously long time - took the non-EU states in Europe 10 years or so - think Norway, Switzerland.

We are 10 times their size, and far poorer in terms of GDP/capita.

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>>691450423
yeah, cuz everybody who doesn't vote the way you vote or think the way you think is a "retard"

you sound like the retard

ever occur to you people may have very different interests and that others in the world may not see it the way you do from the (apparently very narrow and closed) perspective of your mind

I want the arabs gone

votes of protest against government in general, no matter how they directly or indirectly affect the result, are what effects change--the alternative is revolution--and they took our guns to make sure they'd stay in power long ago, so all we have is a lousy vote now

>>691450375
tons of nigger and arabs in the UK, and always will be; so why is this valid ?

>>691451068
Well yeah, most things are.

>>691450740
This, but ofc the brexit echo chamber that is /b/ as well as most other edgy online discussion places just watch brexit the movie and believe that instead

>>691447431
So you wanna continue being a cuck for the rest of Europe? You're a dumbass. Brexit is the best things you guys have done in years. Stop believing the scare mongering media. Use your brain.

>>691450632
Wales can't vote for independance.

>>691450923
Millennials here in America are much worse.

>>691451085
It's this sort of non-argument that has got Boris in power.

That's right everyone - just keep on shouting!

GREAT Britain!
That's right GREAT!
They wouldn't call it GREAT unless it was!
GREEEAAATTT!

>>691451074
I can tell you've never needed to get a visa in your fucking life you cock inhaling faggot

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I went Tescos and there was not Brit fags just Poles, pakis and coons. this is why we done it.

>>691450974
They won't get access to the single market without relaxing border issues. It took Switzerland like 20+ years to get to where it is now without relaxing border issues. If you think Britain is going to get a Swiss-like deal overnight you're having a giggle mate.
Good luck with a gimped and protectionist economy, matey.

>>691448652
Italy is a net contributor?
Wtf

>>691450694
> the Euro has lost half it's value against the US dollar

I call bullshit.

If you didnt vote leave you don't deserve your freedom from the pcycho global elites that want to soft kill you. Wake up fucktards...

>>691450932
The US will always be loyal to us and that's all we need. Anybody else is just gravy.

>>691450977
Have you never studied communism? It explicitly states that socialism is a stepping stone to communism. You're either willingly blind or entirely stupid.

>>691451074
it's funny how I can tell that you're about 16 just from your retarded post

>>691449496
Yea, and since then the rules have changed. There is no way GB's export can compete with that of any of the eu members in at least the european market. Would you rather sell your onion's for 1 euro, or would you have to pay 50 cent to sell them for one euro?

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>>691450763
Do you have any idea how low those numbers are?

That's .3% of the population.

>>691451061
It's not the apocalypse, but the UK is probably done. I think the EU is done long term as well. Not because of the UK though, because of letting in shitty countries with shitty economies and now looking to dictatorships like Turkey for new members.

And voting to stop ferners frum tknurjerbs doesn't work. The companies leave. That's uninformed reaction to reactionary propaganda.

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So if the UK has to stay in the EU for a couple of years before it officially leaves, what's stopping the EU putting millions of Arabs on a boat and sending them there as one last 'fuck you'?

Can we vote for this to happen? Plz?

>>691451293
That looks like a trap.

Redneck getting head from a black trap. That picture must have been taken in Atlanta.

>>691448153
fuck

im bleeding.

actually brushed into your EDGE YOU KWER HOMOFAG

>>691451377
> marijuana is a gateway drug

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>>691448153
Edge

>>691451377
Not him but I have actually. And no, those sources were written by americans to stop other countries from embracing socialism

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>>691447431
SJW's gonna SJW

The UK us going to suffer for now, but in 15 years or so when thr EU is buried under endless waves of enviromental refugees and migrants UK will have rebuilt. This is not about race it is about the fact that north africa, middle east and indonesia are going to be devastated by climate change and barely habital. No one wants to go to africa and the mericunts and chinks wont take them. Russia will collapse by then so they wont be able to help. Shit half the world is gonna turn into nork land

>>691450740
Israel isn't part of the EU yet they have massive R&D funding and their borders are tightly controlled

The UK already pays massive funds into the EU science funds. This hurts the EU more than it hurts the UK.

Good luck competing with Russia in trade and politics? Considering that the UK is a much more stable and stronger economy I don't think they're going to have a problem with that. Besides, NATO is already a thing that exists and works well.

>The EU does not tax anybody
A blatant lie. The funds for the EU come from the individual governments which comes from taxpayer dollars.

>>691451376
US and UK are brothers across the pond.

-American

>>691448519
People are voting against this evil agenda that world leaders are trying to force upon us. I don't know what the point of it is or who is in charge. I just know that governments are not doing the will of the people anymore.

>>691451579
democracy isn't true democracy when the people voting are so ill informed, just look at the US voting for Hillary

>>691450406
It is, because trade with the USA is not done by driving trucks over the border. You twats dont share a border with the USA. You do share a border with the EU. So yea. Border agreements are a must for trade deals.

>>691450694
> If the businesses were better run from Poland why weren't they run from Poland before?

Because UK was more attractive than Poland. It probably still is. However, is still London more attractive than Paris or Frankfurt? Creating a secondary headquarters there will be far more attractive because it gives access to all of the euromarket, something that London won't have anymore. See http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/23d576b0-386a-11e6-a780-b48ed7b6126f.html

>You keep saying that the UK is going to lose everything when in reality new trade deals can be drawn up

Those trade deals will mean free moving in borders, accepting the regulations and contributing to the EU. But this time without representation and without having a vote. So yes, totally a good idea.

>>691451553
Marijuana is a gateway drug. I'm a heroin addict. I don't know a single one of my heroin addict friends who didn't start by smoking weed. If we never smoked weed we never would have gotten involved with the people who gave us oxy and then heroin.

>>691450932

of course the UK will be fine.

some of these morons are alluding to some kind of sanction for exercising their democracy

>>691449026
>no representation
ever heard about the european parliament m8?

>>691451628
Israel is also the US's lover. So you're right in way, the brexit crowd have just proven just how american they are and might as well become the 51st state

>>691451553
I smoke pot and can confirm that this is true. Never would have been curious about acid or DMT if it weren't for pot. It was a quite an extravagant gateway, I must say.

>>691451578
Look at East Europe, their socialism looks an awful lot like Soviet Russian communism.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/politics/why-our-brave-new-post-brexit-world-must-have-women-at-its-heart/

This is the future you chose

>>691451377
>have you never studied communism
I know it's not much but two of my A levels included sociology and politics. And no, you're not describing communism, you're describing Leninism (and subsequently Stalinism, Trotskyism, etc).

Orthodox Marxism views socialism as not being strong enough to completely topple the ruling class in a revolution, so he developed his own views towards the relations between the classes and how these metaphorical walls can be climbed. Lenin believed that communism and socialism were identical, and that communism wasn't just an extreme form of socialism. You're being biased by implying anything is explicit in this field of knowledge.

Everything is subjective here.

>>691451285
I have been on vacation in countries in and outside the EU and literally all it took was telling customs why I was there and how long I would be there. It's the easiest fucking thing in the world to get your passport stamped.

>>691451697

> share a border with EU
> Island

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>>691451765
On the other hand, I know a lot of people who smoke weed and don't do other drugs.

>>691451788
Some people just don't know what the fuck the EU is, they are angry at a mirage like this fuck --> >>691450932

>>691451841
But would you say every pothead eventually becomes a heroi/acid whatever addict?

>>691451068
>Democracy was flawed when it was invented.
"Democracy" itself is only flawed in the core concept that all people are equal and therefore all people should get 1 vote. If just that aspect were tweaked such that only intelligent people who actually buy a vote or trade labor or something else into the system to show they care (and therefore have taken the time to become informed about issues they might vote on, presumably) are the only ones who get to vote, then Democracy might work.

The problem with Democracy is that it allows imbeciles a say in steering the ship. Imbeciles breed more imbeciles and in fact outbreed the intelligent people (who are responsible), then you get a party that represents the imbeciles and they make laws to encourage more imbeciles to increase their numbers (and thus votes). This is when Democracy breaks down. It is what has happened in the U.S. with the rise of the Democratic Party which is primarily based in blacks, the poor, the non-working, etc., with a few straggler delusional, idealistic pseudo-intellectuals from university beating the drum.

>>691451376
>loyal to us
you've literally just signed your declaration of joining the US. without EU regulations on health, environment,... the country and it's people will soon look like americans too

>>691451697
The US has trade deals with Mexico and Canada you mouth breathing autist.

>>691451871
I feel like what you're saying is that you are either a capitalist or a communist, and there is no middle ground.

>>691451421
It's funny how you have no arguments against it

>>691451427
So the rules have changed? They can change again

>>691451841
>east europe
is that why most of them have right wing governments?

>>691451697

everything about this post is wrong, delete it

>>691451168
your premise is flawed
there need not be
that's why it's valid
that's the source of the problem

>>691451886
Yea, for you. But time is money, and every car that passes the border will need to be stopped, and inspected. Transport of products by truck will be several hours slower now. And have to pay a border fee. Both ways around. Good luck getting stuck with all shit you try to export.

>>691451487
If that happens you'll have out and out rebellion and the EU would deserve it. I wouldn't be surprised if they shipped them all back to Calais within the week.

>>691452019
And Canada and the US have border deals, many of them. It's why you didn't need a passport to get into the US/Canada for ages until American went full retard paranoia.

>>691451065

well first of all, you're independent of that part of the EU, you know that shitty part that is always in deficit, meaning you don't have to bail them out when they come begging

>>691447431

I voted remain. 4chan had literally no bearing on the result. The percentage was quite close but still over a million people voted to leave. There are not a million faggots on here that voted leave because they are brainless sheep. you would be lucky if 5,000 voted because of something they read on here.

I am Cameron is gone he (and I quote) said 'why should I clean up this shit' which just about sums him up. He should never have been in charge of the country and that attitude proves he never had Britain's interest's at heart just his own.

If he had an ounce of character he would have put Britain before his own feelings. His arrogance was his downfall. Glad he is gone, glad he can't fuck up anything else. Self serving cunt.

>>691451901
maybe wanna catch up on that geography mate

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>>691451765
it was all the weeds fault and not that your just a degenerate

>>691452009
How about trying to make all people equal, there by ensuring their votes are more or less equally informed?
I'm assuming you're on of the smart people, right?

uk-> Country that has survived 5x as long as the US has and about 30x as long as the EU has.
Votes leave
SJW-> OMG UK IS GONNA DIE MUH

>>691452040
I'm not saying that. I am not a Leninist. I was simply telling you that what you (or whoever I replied to) was not describing socialism and communism correctly.

The truth is, the political compass has a wide spectrum of views, the "middle ground" is bigger than most people think. Some people who call themselves hardcore socialists or conservatives are actually center-left or center-right of the political spectrum based on their views. It's simply their own use of the word that makes them a socialist or a capitalist.

As I said before, it's all subjective.

>>691451901
>Ireland
>Soon, Scotland

>>691450286
space program maybe?

>>691452009
Nailed it

>>Democratic Party runs on the platform of being the party of intelligencia and science
>>Begs dumb blacks for votes every election

>>691450763
That graph seems to suggest the UK had just managed to get a good control over migration/immigration. It falls for a few years, then makes up ground for a few years, then falls... Looks pretty healthy to me.

>>691449378
I wonder how the UK existed before the EU. Democracy is scary for you Britbongs, but it will work. No need to suckle the EU tit!

>>691448042
>>>/pol/78508677

THIS HAPPENED

BRITANNIA RUUUUUUULE THE WAVES

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>>691452265
well it quite literally is

>>691449405
>Talks about democracy
>Actually lives in a monarchy
>Takes the side of the queen over a actual democracy

Step down the barricades for a bit Che Guevara

>>691452265
> what romans said shortly before their decline
Don't be ignorant to possible change.

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>>691451457

that's exactly why the UK needed to leave the EU and why more will follow

>>691452078
I can't be bothered to read what you're replying to but I'm gonna chime in here and say that Eastern Europe has a lot of right wing nationalist governments because the fall of the communist bloc left them feeling weak and as a nation demoralized. This is why after the fall of the German Empire in 1918 the Nazi party rose to power with promises of ultra-nationalism (which they subsequently achieved, along with a complete self-sustaining economy which most right wing countries strive for, and is the epitomy of fascism)

My question to you is this: why do I waste my life telling random people on the internet pieces of information I've learned in school

>>691452265
Last time Europe ended a single market they were plunged into darkness for ~700 years.
Maybe you've heard of the DARK AGES?

>>691449527
You sound like a tinfoil fedora wearing Amerifat.

>>691452265
that's what every empire has said, the problem is the english dont realise their empire is gone, they will now

Fairly sad people voted for Brexit because they are against immigration.

Pro tip, the UK controlled its own immigration all along. Special snow flake status did that.

Must be nice having stupid people convinced by lies. Good luck with the 350 million pounds your NHS is NOT getting according to your bff Nigel.

>>691450932
Another millenial thinking USA, Canada and even Germany will make new, tariff-less trade agreements with britain just because they love her.
The naivity of people never ceases to amuse me. You voted to leave, right? :^) Enjoy your future servitude to Chinese and Russian overlords because they'll be besting your prices at every turn and if you're expecting anyone shedding a tear at you, you'll be sorely disappointed.

>>691451803
>Sovereignty is bad guys
>The UK won't be able to negotiate trade deals other countries much smaller already have

>>691452154
Canada and the US have a free trade agreement and they don't have open borders.

The US and Japan have a free trade agreement and you know what? Japan is an incredibly closed island country with a strong economy and no EU to fuck them over.

>>691452367
>democracy is scary for you Britbongs
We can't fucking vote mate. We end up having some witch in power who presses select all+delete on the poor/lower classes or some wanker who decides to invade a country I couldn't care less about.

That milk from the EU was some fucking nice chocolate milk. And who the hell doesn't like chocolate milk?

>>691447962
Because you get a rebate, and the amount you actually spent is smaller than the amount you now have to pay in fees tariffs and other shit to actually access this markets... Trade is important, its basically your countries "job".

>300 million is a lot of money on a individual levell so it scares me!!! Im voting yes with no concept of value and numbers on a country level, and zero education on economics. Gimme ma country. Rar immigrants.

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>>691451628

>Israel isn't part of the EU yet they have massive R&D funding and their borders are tightly controlled

Morocco is also not part of the EU and they are a shit country. That is not an argument. How is similar UK and Israel?

>The UK already pays massive funds into the EU science funds. This hurts the EU more than it hurts the UK.

Wrong answer! https://royalsociety.org/~/media/policy/projects/eu-uk-funding/uk-membership-of-eu.pdf In research, UK receives more than it gives (mostly because they have better universities that can tackle on more projects).

>Considering that the UK is a much more stable and stronger economy I don't think they're going to have a problem with that

They won't have a problem. UK will just not be a priority because other markets are more worth the effort, such as *all of Europe*.

> NATO is already a thing that exists and works well.

NATO does what US does, and maybe European countries could have a say if they acted together. So UK won't have any influence alone, you just proved my point.

>A blatant lie. The funds for the EU come from the individual governments which comes from taxpayer dollars.

That is not a tax. Does NATO tax you? Does the UN tax you? Contributions are not taxes, and further, you had representation in the EU in exchange for those contributions.

>>691452235
We've tried to make people equal. Look what's become of it. Just accept reality, kid. People are not equal. Rich are more important than poor. White is more important than black. Intelligence is more important than stupidity.

>>691452019
Yea, deals, but no free trade and traffic. That is why there will be now way GB can compete.

>>691452531
kek fuck the eu

>>691452017
Idk. Most of us have it breddy gud here in the US.
> I own a small business
>I can keep the money I earn
> I own a gun
>I'm allowed to defend myself and family

How about you?

>>691447431
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>>691449026
Everyone see this, add it on after facebookpointcom
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>>691452682
mother fucker make that June, July, August

Are you an infant? 'I voted for a meme'. Toothless faggot

Can someone explain to a dumbass aussie what the downsides even are? give me a tldr i dont give a fuck

>>691449026
Actually every argument to remain was from economists and experts and people with educations.. The response was literally "we're sick of experts".

Dude. Come the fuck on.

>>691452550
Commonwealth? anyone? AUNZ will boom along with south afirca, canada and the global market arcoss the commonwealth countires

>>691452644
don't waste you're breath on arguing with brexit voters, they've watched brexit the movie and now "know all I need to know"

>>691452720
holy shit unilad is pro-EU

I have a tiny bit of respect for them now, despite them being the primary destination for chavs and the cheeky nandos squads

>>691452665
Obviously we didn't do enough, since its pretty easy to achieve all that.
Wealth redistribution and free education.
But who likes to spend money on some else, right?

>>691449038
This is what leftist cucks actually believe

>>691451750
They don't have to mean free movement in the borders, they don't have to contribute to the EU and they don't have to accept their regulations. The US, Canada and Mexico have a free trade agreement and there are no open borders or payments to a NA Commission.

The US and Japan have a free trade agreement and yet there are no payments to a US/Jap Commission and no open borders.

>>691451788
Yes and I know you don't vote for members of the EU parliament.

>>691451871

Different guy, but I think you're conflating a lot of terms.

Lenin and the Bolsheviks, in addition to the other Russian socialists, held that socialism was the devolution of control of the means of production into the hands of the workers. Hence the creation of local soviets in mines and factories in 1917.

Over time, as the soviets proved too hard to control, the idea of the "people" owning the means of production came to be understood as the state holding the means of production. This process is a little confusing, because it is often referred to as "war communism", Lenin's economic policy to take over the industrial power of Russia to supply the Bolsheviks in the civil war.

However, afterward, Russia went through a process of "building socialism", which was nominally completed in the 1960s under Brezhnev. Speeches from the time then refer to the next step being "building communism". This would have meant a moneyless society with no need for trade or markets, only free exchange of goods based on need. It's an impossible utopia which was never reached.

Bolsheviks, mensheviks, and other Russian socialists views socialism as a stepping stone to communism. They are not the same.

>>691448890
>1% of taxes - no big deal
>Council budget increase reduced 0.1% - End of the world, heartless

We understand how it works

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>>691452737
>implying Nigel isn't a meme
>calling someone who talks about memes on 4chan an infant
>browsing 4chan

>>691452531

I agree, what they don't even realise is that because we were in the EU France allowed us to check for illegal immigrants BEFORE they came to England, in Calais. This meant their vile camps used to remain in France. They call them 'the jungle' which should give you an idea of how nice these camps are. Once we have to wait until they cross the border, they will have to be detained in England and the camps will move to Kent.

Fuckwits

>>691452186
So your only argument is "if another crisis comes we won't have to bail them out"? You know that that money is being returned, right? With interests (lower than market, but interests nevertheless). And not bailing out other countries would affect your economy, so it is still probably better to bail them out.

That argument is utterly stupid.

>>691449200
kek

>>691452737
Standard fare for exit voters. Clueless imbeciles that expect the land of milk and honey and white skins everywhere.

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>omg i totes didnt want to really leave, Im super serious

nice propaganda

>>691452740
Britain basically has to pay a shit tonne more to access the trade market, lost eu benefits like erasmus, their businesses abroad and eu businesses in britain are fucked, the great british pound crashed, and stock markets all over the world crashed. Both the EU and Britain are now less competitive in world trade.

China is actually happy because they were a big trade opponent. China is winning from this deal.

>>691452915
different guy but I think youre a socialist cunt who should fuck off out of my country fucking leftist piece of shit

>>691452265
>Implying the UK and the world is the same as it was during all world history.

Prediction of how the next ten years will go

>UK leaves the EU
>Donald Trump becomes American President
>Europe hate for massively racist UK and USA grows even stronger
>Europe struggles under weight of rising migration and failing eurozone economies
>UK and USA skip off into an aryen sunset, linking arms

>>691452740

none

just left wing hippies crying as usual

>>691452849
>wealth redistribution
How's communism working out around the world for you, bud?

>>691452728
kek, this

>>691452235
>How about trying to make all people equal
You simply cannot "make" all people equal. People will always vary, quite drastically in fact, in intelligence, loyalty, laziness, patriotism, family-values, and a whole host of other things that bear directly on whether or not the vote by the secret terrorist or dimwitted Nigel should be equal to the informed citizen.

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Don't let them lie to you

>>691452842
So is the video real? It was very funny, im from Mexico and im enjoying the show.

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>>691453057
the prophet has spoken

>>691453026
Woah man. I'm just a historian. I study Russia and eastern Europe so we never go down that road again. Know thy enemy and shit.

Calm down son.

>>691447962
Fuck you

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>>691447431
If I was British I'd vote leave too.

>>691449421
Sometimes you have to tear it all down before you can rebuild. We just might do that in the US.

Some things are too broken to fix. Unfortunate, but true.

>>691453014
I dont see how anyone can even defend it by what you said. For what independence? yeah hows that going to work when you're getting food stamps from the gov

>>691452790
/thread